View Full Version : Group E, Day 1: Philippines vs. Chinese-Taipei
Maximus1984
08-10-2009, 09:48 AM
oh man hahahahahaaha
even the sign of this Laban thingy is like the sign of aounists in Lebanon
loooooooooooooool now they do Laban too i guess :P
Laban, Labneh, Mtabbal (these r lebanese appetizers loool)
TrueBluePinoy
08-10-2009, 09:48 AM
Toroman's prediction is slowly coming true. We're already qualified for the QF, now we'll see if we could beat Iran or not as Coach Toro picked the latter.
ThreeStars&aSun
08-10-2009, 09:49 AM
animo pilipinas!
TrueBluePinoy
08-10-2009, 09:49 AM
youre a psychic.... what else????
What makes you say that?? :D:D
TrueBluePinoy
08-10-2009, 09:50 AM
oh man hahahahahaaha
even the sign of this Laban thingy is like the sign of aounists in Lebanon
loooooooooooooool now they do Laban too i guess :P
Laban, Labneh, Mtabbal (these r lebanese appetizers loool)
Bro, if you were in Manila during 1986 I'm sure you would've held that hand sign with pride. :)
P.I. is getting better and better every game...they seem to be stepping up the challenge....there's still a lot of flaws (fouls, FTs)... they just gotta touch those up then they'd definitely become a threat...nonetheless good game for P.I. esp. YAP and MILLER getting their game-on...
I also think that YENG should field players like Taulava and Japeth longer in the game...we lack size in the paint..it's hard for us to get rebounds...
Goodluck against Iran tomorrow...I'm expecting something new from P.I...and props to Chinese-Taipei..
jay26
08-10-2009, 09:51 AM
Congrats to Team Pilipinas!!! will there be a replay tonight?
Andrew81
08-10-2009, 09:52 AM
We will going to massacre IRAN tomorrow via 3 point shot. Nyahahaha!
sorry but im really dissapointed with 2009 Pro pilipinas team.why are we having a problem beating this Taiwan team in which we normally beat them by 20-30 pts?Its just shows that 2007 is a better team than this year..But sorry to my friend taiwanesse,a win is a win.:D.good game for team pilipinas.Seems our opponents knows how to beat this years RP team now.:(
logre23
08-10-2009, 09:52 AM
good job RP. I ate my lunch in front of my computer..& after 100x F5 to see the score updates...shit! greasy keyboard.. ..hehehe...worth it naman..I hope i-replay sa AlJazeera tonight.
d_viper
08-10-2009, 09:52 AM
...... a win is win no matter what:D:D:D
congratz POWERADE TEAM PILIPINAS
bolabasket
08-10-2009, 09:54 AM
Our defense just limited Taiwan to 1/15 3-pt shooting...WOW!
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7431/rptai.gif
apiSigbinz
08-10-2009, 09:54 AM
Congratz Team Pilipinas.. very nice and exciting game!!! tomorrow will be another tough game against Iran.. but i'm not counting on them to win tomorrow.. they need this win more than tomorrow's ballgame......
hawke12
08-10-2009, 09:55 AM
How ironic.. The Player who was thought by many was not fit for this National Team Made the Dagger 3pt. Shot.. Good Win!!! Win or Lose RP parin...
Just one observation:
Our perimeter Defense is Amazing but it's our Low post Defense needs some improvement... but Still maybe its better other teams score 2pt. than score a 3...:D:D
Taiwan team is better now compared to before when Cheng was there
Here is how I see the rankings
China
Iran
Jordan/Lebanon
Korea/Phils
Qatar
Taiwan
Japan
So this was a big win bec of the tough competition
as long as Powerade team can adjust to the situations in the game they can compete with Iran tom
Lets go Team Pilipinas
TrueBluePinoy
08-10-2009, 09:55 AM
Hey Guiao!! Toroman's right about RP entering the QF. Time for you to prove him half right by trying to beat Iran tomorrow!
WE BELIEVE!!! Tomorrow the team will sure feel relaxed and loose. If they play with no pressure, maybe the unthinkable will happen.
To Coach YG, nice game, but we should learn from this game, why we easily give up 8-straight points!!! could have cost us the game. Now that quarterfinal is a certainty, bring it on, believe mga tol, with the starters of Jordan getting heavy minutes, they might burn out in the QFs, our advantage is our players are rested, and the depth of talent is quite good.
Good job, Coach.
kaiziken_pinas
08-10-2009, 09:57 AM
Our defense just limited Taiwan to 1/15 3-pt shooting...WOW!
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7431/rptai.gif
WOW.... i hope it'll keep showing in the next games
bolabasket
08-10-2009, 09:59 AM
http://www.china2009.fiba.com/images/web/Events/09/FASCM/daybyday/090810/PHIvsTPE/PHI/_400/IMG_0811.JPG
http://www.china2009.fiba.com/images/web/Events/09/FASCM/daybyday/090810/PHIvsTPE/PHI/_400/IMG_0794.JPG
http://www.china2009.fiba.com/images/web/Events/09/FASCM/daybyday/090810/PHIvsTPE/PHI/_400/ADNA5562.jpg
http://www.china2009.fiba.com/images/web/Events/09/FASCM/daybyday/090810/PHIvsTPE/TPE/_400/OE6C4302.jpg
chris25_moon
08-10-2009, 10:00 AM
I think the 3rd quarter is the turning point again... James Yap finally step up... we indeed avoided the Great Wall of China...
turning point is not the 3rd.. it's a close fight up to the 2 minutes in the 4th.. so the turning point is the 3pt shot of W.Miller! the 3rd qtr. is the part of blow out qtr. by RP team... CONGRATS PILIPINAS... peace!!! see you tomorrow.:D
hawke12
08-10-2009, 10:01 AM
Our defense just limited Taiwan to 1/15 3-pt shooting...WOW!
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7431/rptai.gif
Again.. Nobody Log over 30mins. nice Rotation of Players by Coach Yeng.. 16 TO's Oopppsss... And 23 fouls...
don juan
08-10-2009, 10:01 AM
WOW.... i hope it'll keep showing in the next games
and just like the game against korea, held them to 70pts and below.
turnovers are high today but better than jones cup
DimeDropper
08-10-2009, 10:03 AM
^Nyahaha! Nawa'y magdilang-anghel ka ulit!
Trans: Tommorow will be an interesting battle once again!
BRO!!! Nagdilang anghel ako ulit!!!
Trans: I'm an angel!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! :eek::eek::D
kerdito
08-10-2009, 10:04 AM
I think this Phili team is really getting better quickly Iran couldn't stop the Taipe's shooting till the last quarter but Phili managed to do that from the start of the game and it seems CT were not lucky.but anyway let's remember that CT embarresed Iran before losing with only 4 pts so they are not an easy team....Congrats Philis and good luck your team might have a real bigger role than that they had in the last few years if they continue to improve so quickly
mygfluvsblue
08-10-2009, 10:04 AM
Aside from Toroman, Dragon Raka also made a comment that Rp team will surprize everyone in this tournament.
The conclusion is, Jones cup is just a practice for the team as what Coach Kalbs said.
I trust coach Kalbs system specially on the defensive end.
bolabasket
08-10-2009, 10:06 AM
11am game time tomorrow vs Iran...
I think this Phili team is really getting better quickly Iran couldn't stop the Taipe's shooting till the last quarter but Phili managed to do that from the start of the game and it seems CT were not lucky.but anyway let's remember that CT embarresed Iran before losing with only 4 pts so they are not an easy team....Congrats Philis and good luck your team might have a real bigger role than that they had in the last few years if they continue to improve so quickly
thank you our friend
this is what we have been hoping and praying for, that the team shows how good they can be and for us to get the respect back in Asian basketball
kerouac82
08-10-2009, 10:10 AM
oh man hahahahahaaha
even the sign of this Laban thingy is like the sign of aounists in Lebanon
loooooooooooooool now they do Laban too i guess :P
Laban, Labneh, Mtabbal (these r lebanese appetizers loool)
Motabbal is good. Keema is better. Shawarma is best. :D
d_viper
08-10-2009, 10:11 AM
........ wheew am just happy that our outside shots finally worked:D
yap and miller hats off to our saviour .......:D:D
ThreeStars&aSun
08-10-2009, 10:11 AM
http://www.china2009.fiba.com/images/web/events/09/fascm/daybyday/090810/phivstpe/tpe/_400/oe6c4302.jpg
the mighty karate chop!!!
rhk111
08-10-2009, 10:13 AM
Only Yap and Miller scored in double figures for the RP NT. We caught Taiwan on a really bad three-point shooting night, they shot just 6.7% (1/15). You don't win games, when you shoot that miserably.
On the other hand, we shot a phenomenal 50% from the three-point line. That is not something you will see every game for the any team in a competitive tourament.
http://china2009.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/09/fascm/p/eid/4046/gid/26/grid/E/rid/7123/sid/7038/game.html
ThreeStars&aSun
08-10-2009, 10:13 AM
I think someone should tell Coach Yeng Guiao what MOMENTUM is.
kerouac82
08-10-2009, 10:14 AM
I noticed, too, that we had more three-pointers than free throws.
A win is a win, and this one was hard-earned. But please, if we want to at least give Iran a good fight tomorrow, make your free throws!
Go Pilipinas! One Big Fight!
d_viper
08-10-2009, 10:18 AM
am happy still with the win no matter what:D...... but whats with santos and aguilar??? committing to many errors?:D
Manila_Ice
08-10-2009, 10:18 AM
What a ballgame. Congratulations to our Team, it was an awesome game. Good thing our outside shooting has clicked on this particular game. Right just in time as they say, If it wasn't for Willie Miller, James Yap, JayJay Helterbrand and Cyrus Baguio's outside shooting we could have lost that game. It's very obvious that the referee's call are more favorable with the Chinese-Taipei team.
It was unbelievable, for the last 6 minutes everytime that long-haired guy touches the ball, a fouls is quickly being attested to either Sonny Thoss or Mick Pennisi. This could have been a blow-out win for us. The defense is very remarkable, Coach Yeng certainly had a plan on how to stop Chinese-Taipei outside shooting, and it shows(I beleive they only shot 9% beyond the arc). Chinese-Taipei played a great zone defense, but you can't deny James Yap's swagger for this game. He single handedly brought PI back in the game and gave us the lead.
Tomorrow's match will be a great game. I'm giving our team a 30%-70% chance in beating Iran. At least we are already sure for a quarter-finals berth(assuming we beat kuwait). I believe tha main focus right now for our team(specially the coaching staff) is how are we going to beat either Jordan or Lebanon(which I believe will be our opponent for the next round)
reamily
08-10-2009, 10:20 AM
sorry but im really dissapointed with 2009 Pro pilipinas team.why are we having a problem beating this Taiwan team in which we normally beat them by 20-30 pts?Its just shows that 2007 is a better team than this year..But sorry to my friend taiwanesse,a win is a win.:D.good game for team pilipinas.Seems our opponents knows how to beat this years RP team now.:(
Hehehe dont be fooled taiwan really play well and this is their full potential as a team in 1998-2000 Chen chi lung led taiwan team is a respectable asian team but when the the tuan chon fong baby taiwan era comes thats when we hate taiwan with those fanboy style of playing that causes them relegation places in fiba tournaments in 2003,2005 and asian games in 2002 2006 but when their korean coach kwan suk handle them taiwan became mature big guys tien "softer than gasol" lei and alfrancis chua:D:D became solid guys add to that iran beat them by 4 and we have again a diesel start
But hats off to taiwan because they gain now my respect because they are not only fanboy team but a legit team even though a reward is a date with the mainland china:D:D:D
art00
08-10-2009, 10:20 AM
That was, indeed, a great game... and an even greater win. This was really a break-out game for our outside (especially 3-point) shooting... break-out game for James Yap who had been struggling since the Jones Cup. Willie Miller was excellent, too... hitting 5/5 from beyond the arc. It was also good to see Jayjay Helterbrand getting his confidence back and I believe that he will be an important factor in the remaining games.
As mentioned earlier, RP played very good defense limiting the Taiwanese to 70 points and only 6.7% (1/15) shooting from the 3-point area.
But...
The team's weaknesses were still very much in evidence:
... too many turnovers (16-13)
... too many missed free throws (44.4%-68%)
... being outrebounded (37-42)
We really need to improve dramatically in these aspects of the game to be more competitive in the later stages of the tournament. We can't assume that our shooting will always be as excellent as it was today.
Although, it seems uphill, I hope that we will give Iran a good game tomorrow.
Mabuhay and mga basketbolistang Pilipino!
***
fnorte
08-10-2009, 10:21 AM
I think I saw Graham Lim watching on the sideline.
insulares
08-10-2009, 10:22 AM
The PBA MVPs came with their guns loaded and shot the lights out tonight. Thankfully, the game didn't become a battle of free throws. :D
Great game, TPE and best of luck to you Lebanon. Thanks to Dragan Raca for his generous comments about the improvement of Team PILIPINAS while LIB was in Manila.
reamily
08-10-2009, 10:27 AM
Is this Yap vs. CT? :D
They finally found theit shooting rhythm. Hope this won't change in the 4th.
I wanna see RP take on Germany in Turkey.
With Standhardinger playing on rp side hopefully:D:D:D
DimeDropper
08-10-2009, 10:27 AM
I have always believed that we have the 3-point arsenal in our system. It is just how you make yourself free to take it. And today they were able to do it.
My hunch was James Yap will step up today and he perfectly did. But I never thought it would be this good. BRAVO!!!
kerdito
08-10-2009, 10:29 AM
Motabbal is good. Keema is better. Shawarma is best. :D
try Kebbe and than reconsider your post :P LOL
bolabasket
08-10-2009, 10:31 AM
I think I saw Graham Lim watching on the sideline.
the lucky charm again I guess....:D
bolabasket
08-10-2009, 10:33 AM
TIANJIN (FIBA Asia Championship) - James Yap scored 15 of his game-high 23 points in the third quarter and SEABA champions Philippines staged a superb second half rally to defeat wild card entrants Chinese Taipei 77-70 in pivotal Group E eight-final round game on Monday.
James Yap returned a 55.55% field record (5/9), including a staggering 4/6 in three-pointers as Philippines outscored Taipei 29-19 in the third quarter.
Philippines who had inched their way back to a two-point deficit by the end of the first half, thus perched themselves firmly in the driving seat.
Yap fired six successive points in less than a minute midway through the first quarter and Philippines had transformed a 38-41 to a 44-41 lead in quick jiffy.
That was the first time Philippines went ahead in the game and they never trailed again.
Yap had no further success in the fourth quarter, but his third quarter blitz was good enough for his team.
Willie Miller Jr had an all-round consistent shooting performance and scored 17 points for Philippines, with a 75% record in field attempts, converting all his five three-pointer attempts.
Chinese Taipei who led for the better part of the game suffered a mid-game slump.
Tseng Wen-Ting, who went on to finish as Taipei’s leading scorer with 21 points, had only three to add in the third quarter to his eight first half points.
Philippines coach Joseller Guiao worked out some tight defence plans, which his players executed and Tseng was restricted to merely one look at the goal for the entire third quarter.
Tseng converted that one attempt and fought back gallantly in the fourth quarter reeling in 10 points, but by then Philippines had hot cruise mode.
Only the final buzzer could stop them.
:D
DimeDropper
08-10-2009, 10:37 AM
With this win I think we have regained our status now as a basketball powerhouse in "East Asia." Slap on the faces of those who labeled us otherwise. Especially in this FORUM!!!
kerdito
08-10-2009, 10:39 AM
thank you our friend
this is what we have been hoping and praying for, that the team shows how good they can be and for us to get the respect back in Asian basketball
ur welcome man, I think what you need is some good luck with the schedule to be on your side avoiding the best 3 teams of the 2nd group: China, Lebanon and Jordan and you need to improve you defense on the inside so you can limit these teams' weapons.
Good luck anyway
mygfluvsblue
08-10-2009, 10:39 AM
I agree bro. They we not there when we are losing. But when we are winning, they cheer the most.
reamily
08-10-2009, 10:40 AM
ur welcome man, I think what you need is some good luck with the schedule to be on your side avoiding the best 3 teams of the 2nd group: China, Lebanon and Jordan and you need to improve you defense on the inside so you can limit these teams' weapons.
Good luck anyway
hopefully we pick the weakest link of the three as if any:D but one team is in my mind:D:D that i think Ithink we can match if we expose their chink on the armor that maybe not been discovered yet:D:D
toofast23
08-10-2009, 10:41 AM
thats what i suspect when coach yeng selected the players who are in now in our RP TEAM line up many did raise their eyebrows some is in disbelief while others is completely disbeliever of coach yeng. this team is built primarily for defense, we all know that good defense will lead to a good offense and i know coach yeng is master of mind games he let us lose those games in jones cup to get that into our players heads. he let them lose many of those games in jones cup to instill to the players that is not going to be easy and in the process he let out some of the players competitive fire and fighting spirit. i know that is not going to be an easy task for OUR TEAM but as tita cory said prayers can move mountain let us continue to support OUR TEAM PILIPINAS no matter what.
Its not the players nor the coaches who are the superstar of the team its the SYSTEM!
lovejones
08-10-2009, 10:42 AM
Quinito and Chino shouldn't be the commentators. They bring bad luck.
And I can imagine their voices in a loss. Bring back Patricia Hizon and her partner.
[LOL yes i'm very superstitious.]
Speaking of superstition, I think I know what makes Team Pilipinas win, and it it has EVERYTHING to do with where I watch TV. When we won the first two games, I watched it in my sala. Against Korea, I watched the game in my bedroom. Awhile ago, I was in the living room again cheering madly at Team Pilipinas's rainbow connections. Coincidence? God I hope not.
So come tomorrow's game against Iran, it's obvious where I'll watch it.
(I'm an entrepreneur by the way so I'm not really encumbered by an 8 to 5 job :D)
rdboy
08-10-2009, 10:43 AM
Coach Yeng still needs to tweak his team play especially when he's playing Kerby, he should remind him he's not in purefoods anymore and he's not a sg! He should make Kerby post up or shoot perimter jumpers.
mygfluvsblue
08-10-2009, 10:45 AM
thats what i suspect when coach yeng selected the players who are in now in our RP TEAM line up many did raise their eyebrows some is in disbelief while others is completely disbeliever of coach yeng. this team is built primarily for defense, we all know that good defense will lead to a good offense and i know coach yeng is master of mind games he let us lose those games in jones cup to get that into our players heads. he let them lose many of those games in jones cup to instill to the players that is not going to be easy and in the process he let out some of the players competitive fire and fighting spirit. i know that is not going to be an easy task for OUR TEAM but as tita cory said prayers can move mountain let us continue to support OUR TEAM PILIPINAS no matter what.
Its not the players nor the coaches who are the superstar of the team its the SYSTEM!
very well said. Just believe we can do it, And every win is very rewarding. Even if we dont make it to top 3, i commend this team for the good showing and hope fiba will grant us one of the wildcard entries. hehehehe.
fnorte
08-10-2009, 10:46 AM
Still suspect is our interior defense. It was obvious in this game that our "big guys" cant keep up with the other other teams big and mobile players. laterally wala naiiwan kaya ganun lang ang playing time ni asi, si kerby(undersize parang si ranidel) ang bumantay nung huli kay joachim noah look alike singkit lang:):)
interxavierxxx
08-10-2009, 10:52 AM
Very good D for our team. We limited all our opponents to less than 5 three pointers a game. I hope we can continue this tenacious defense.
toofast23
08-10-2009, 10:55 AM
Still suspect is our interior defense. It was obvious in this game that our "big guys" cant keep up with the other other teams big and mobile players. laterally wala naiiwan kaya ganun lang ang playing time ni asi, si kerby(undersize parang si ranidel) ang bumantay nung huli kay joachim noah look alike singkit lang:):)
i disagree because our bigmen especially asi and mick is there for the middle eastern team because we all know that chinese taipei have mobile bigmen that is why they are having a hard time guarding them, but when we meet our middle eastern counterpart they will show their worth for OUR TEAM defensively because most of the bigmen of middle eastern team its not that mobile compared to the ones with chinese taipei.
mygfluvsblue
08-10-2009, 10:58 AM
I agree. That's why we miss Kelly very much. He is the most fit in this situation, guarding big men who can move well.
lovejones
08-10-2009, 11:01 AM
i disagree because our bigmen especially asi and mick is there for the middle eastern team because we all know that chinese taipei have mobile bigmen that is why they are having a hard time guarding them, but when we meet our middle eastern counterpart they will show their worth for OUR TEAM defensively because most of the bigmen of middle eastern team its not that mobile compared to the ones with chinese taipei.
Haven't you seen Freije and Vroman play? Believe me, they're a lot stronger and quicker than their oriental counterparts.
Then again, I hope Asi, Mick, and Sonny will prove me wrong. Go Pilipinas!!
kerouac82
08-10-2009, 11:02 AM
Speaking of superstition, I think I know what makes Team Pilipinas win, and it it has EVERYTHING to do with where I watch TV. When we won the first two games, I watched it in my sala. Against Korea, I watched the game in my bedroom. Awhile ago, I was in the living room again cheering madly at Team Pilipinas's rainbow connections. Coincidence? God I hope not.
So come tomorrow's game against Iran, it's obvious where I'll watch it.
(I'm an entrepreneur by the way so I'm not really encumbered by an 8 to 5 job :D)
I better forget about calling in sick tomorrow morning. Better to just rely on updates here. :D
WIZARD
08-10-2009, 11:03 AM
congrats to our friends pinoys, very good game u earned it, so its RP vs JORDAN in the quarterfinals after all? ** in case if every thing goes as expected**, get ready from now to face a great defensive team.
best of luck
toofast23
08-10-2009, 11:05 AM
very well said. Just believe we can do it, And every win is very rewarding. Even if we dont make it to top 3, i commend this team for the good showing and hope fiba will grant us one of the wildcard entries. hehehehe.
thanks! i know that even before this tournament started many of us dont give this team a chance, coach yeng likes his roles of always being an underdog because he will always have a motivation to prove the doubters wrong. as i said its not going to be easy but please continue to support OUR TEAM PILIPINAS WIN or LOSE!
Manila_Ice
08-10-2009, 11:05 AM
MANILA, Philippines -- Powerade Team Pilipinas displayed tremendous will as it downed a dangerous Chinese Taipei squad, 77-70, in the second phase of the elimination round in the 25th Fiba-Asia Championship at the Tianjin Gym inside the Tianjin Olympic Center in Tianjin, China.
James Yap waxed hot in the third quarter, scorching the net with some key triples that put the Nationals ahead by as much as eight points. Yap finished the game with 23 markers to lead the Philippines.
The same eight-point lead, however, dissipated as the Taiwanese gained momentum at the opening of the fourth quarter, tying the score at 62-62.
With 12 ticks left in the game, Willie Miller uncorked a trey that gave Philippines a 75-70 cushion to seal the win. Miller, who also found his range early in the game, finished with 17 points.
Workhorse beanpole Weng Ting-Tseng spearheaded the Chinese Taipei side with at least 20 markers.
The win was the Philippine’s third in fourth outings. The Nationals entered the second round with victories over Sri Lanka and Japan.
RP and Chinese Taipei are in Group E with Korea, Iran, Japan and Kuwait, carrying over their records in the first round. The top four after this round advance to the knockout stage versus the top four from Group F composed of China, Jordan, Qatar, Lebanon, Kazakhstan and UAE.
toofast23
08-10-2009, 11:08 AM
Haven't you seen Freije and Vroman play? Believe me, they're a lot stronger and quicker than their oriental counterparts.
Then again, I hope Asi, Mick, and Sonny will prove me wrong. Go Pilipinas!!
as i said most of them but not all. well vroman maybe but as for freije i dont think so, he is more of a 3 rather than a 4 he doesnt play big for his size.
noyce
08-10-2009, 11:09 AM
Great, great, great win.
Any links for the replay?
fnorte
08-10-2009, 11:14 AM
different players stepping up every game. kelan kaya time ni arwind?
who will guard nikkah tommorow?
i guess its jd. if we could stop or limit him tommorow we have a big chance.
also dont forget the johnson pagong look alike point guard of iran who is also quite good in splitting & breaking our defense.:D:D
yanrying
08-10-2009, 11:16 AM
Again.. Nobody Log over 30mins. nice Rotation of Players by Coach Yeng.. 16 TO's Oopppsss... And 23 fouls...
23 fouls? yeah...forget the bias referees... :)
d_viper
08-10-2009, 11:16 AM
Great, great, great win.
Any links for the replay?
http://interbasketball.blogspot.com/2009/08/philippines-vs-chinese-taipei-full-game.html
DimeDropper
08-10-2009, 11:17 AM
I agree bro. They we not there when we are losing. But when we are winning, they cheer the most.
It's so typical, Pare...
BUT THIS IS OUR TEAM... Win or lose!
DimeDropper
08-10-2009, 11:21 AM
With the way we are performing on FTs our next opponents will let us earn every point from the line, and then...
will make all of them pa rin!!!:p
d_viper
08-10-2009, 11:27 AM
With the way we are performing on FTs our next opponents will let us earn every point from the line, and then...
will make all of them pa rin!!!:p
how about our next game what do you foresee?:D
rhk111
08-10-2009, 11:28 AM
WHAT A LUCKY NUMBER 7-7-7
If you read them upside down
L L L = Laban, Laban, Laban
http://www.asiaobserver.com/images/fbfiles/images/Corazon_Aquino.jpg
* 77-70, "7" in reverse is "L" for the "Laban" sign.
* Our shooting was phenomenal from the three-point area, 50%, almost miraculous, not the norm.
* Our opponents shooting was horrendously bad from the same area, only 7%, not the norm.
* James Yap, the son-in-law of Cory Aquino, the symbol for the "Laban" sign, had his best game in the tournament thus far.
* Perhaps it really is true we have a bit of "help" from elsewhere. LOL
shootingbwakaw
08-10-2009, 11:29 AM
It looks like Japeth is still hurting.. hindi na pinasok e.
he's trying his best to get out of the game. after 2 games-no show, he shows up & commits 2 quick fouls.
logged in for some kirby-bashing but i've been beaten to the punch in real time. Game shows what we might do with some playing & gelling, we can weed out those really ineffective. Imagine keeping this core & letting them play in games like this?
Our "gigil" might diminish if we play more games like this. When our game becomes pressure-less & natural. We'll also have a more objective basis for selecting players. Experience beats theory.
kaiziken_pinas
08-10-2009, 11:31 AM
I hope it's Jay Jay and Japeth's time tomorrow..... add Arwind too. we need 3 players to step up vs IRAN
shootingbwakaw
08-10-2009, 11:36 AM
Sonny Thoss, favorite shot... hahaha... he struggles near the free throw line but has a favorite corner side... GO GO GO... Just a little longer:D:D:D
our point centers also did their best: Asi dribbling coast-to-coast & turning it over (what do you expect?), Mick a Magic Johnson pass to the baseline, (TO), & Thoss corner three. I guess they had no confidence in Jay2 (dribble) Helterbrand, they decided to improvise.
We had no clear play during the dying minutes. lack of real PGs hurting us. good thing CT went bwaya. we don't have the monopoly here. But it shows our level of play; above CT & below Korea
splitzapper
08-10-2009, 11:52 AM
congrats to our friends pinoys, very good game u earned it, so its RP vs JORDAN in the quarterfinals after all? ** in case if every thing goes as expected**, get ready from now to face a great defensive team.
best of luck
Thanks man. But clearly Jordan is the favorites here. We hope that we can keep up with your team up until the waning moments and try to steal a win. Or better yet, we hope to catch your team on a bad day for our chance to go even better. :D
Nonetheless, we hope we could give your team a good fight. We haven't won against Team Jordan in quite some time now. The last one I could remember was in 1994 ASIAN Games or was it 2002.
BRO!!! Nagdilang anghel ako ulit!!!
Trans: I'm an angel!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! :eek::eek::D
Nyahahaha! True true!! I too am starting to believe in your thingamajig there!! What do your crystal/molten ball foresee for tomorrow oh mighty Oracle?? :D
art00
08-10-2009, 12:06 PM
how about our next game what do you foresee?:D
Iran's game is built around their 7'2" Center, #15 Hamed Ehadadi, who is averaging 15.5 ppg and 10.5 rpg. The strategy for RP is obvious: from the onset, attack and foul-bait Ehadadi and get him into foul trouble.
Their other big guy, 6'11" #13 Ali Doraghi, had not been much of a factor with averages of 1.2 ppg and 2 rpg.
Other players to watch are:
#7 Mahdi Kamrani, 5'11" Guard, 13.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.5 apg
#14 Mohammadsamad Nikkah, 6'3" Forward, 20 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.2 apg
These last 2 should not be match-up problems for our guys like Gabe Norwood, Kerby Raymundo or Jared Dillinger.
The main problem is Ehadadi...
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TareqQayet
08-10-2009, 12:14 PM
According to this result RP will play the next level against Jordan ! right ?
durden_tyler
08-10-2009, 12:15 PM
According to this result RP will play the next level against Jordan ! right ?
Nothing is set yet. Depends on tomorrow's games...
TareqQayet
08-10-2009, 12:19 PM
Jordan will beat PR over 30 point !
art00
08-10-2009, 12:24 PM
The problem with the strategy I mentioned earlier is that Ehadadi is averaging only 2 fouls per game in the 4 games he's played, so far. Its clear that this guy knows how to avoid fouls.
And, besides, I don't see any RP player who could effectively post up against him and draw fouls... certainly, not Mick or Japeth... and Sonny and Kerby are too small. We're left with Asi.
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bhinov
08-10-2009, 12:28 PM
Jordan will beat PR over 30 point !
Ah ok.:D
mygfluvsblue
08-10-2009, 12:31 PM
The problem with the strategy I mentioned earlier is that Ehadadi is averaging only 2 fouls per game in the 4 games he's played, so far. Its clear that this guy knows how to avoid fouls.
And, besides, I don't see any RP player who could effectively post up against him and draw fouls... certainly, not Mick or Japeth... and Sonny and Kerby are too small. We're left with Asi.
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This guy knows how to avoid fouls but doesnt know how to avoid a confrontation.
Pikon si Hadadi so go Mic. Pikonin mo yan para masira ang laro.
durden_tyler
08-10-2009, 12:32 PM
The problem with the strategy I mentioned earlier is that Ehadadi is averaging only 2 fouls per game in the 4 games he's played, so far. Its clear that this guy knows how to avoid fouls.
And, besides, I don't see any RP player who could effectively post up against him and draw fouls... certainly, not Mick or Japeth... and Sonny and Kerby are too small. We're left with Asi.
***
We haven't shown any semblance of a zone the past three games. Yeng trusts him men to show up and fight 'em individually. That is both good and bad, we are getting abused at times (even the guards!) but are forcing the teams to play one-on-one basketball! (Just like what happened with the long-haird Taiwan center, he was so effective for 80 per cent of the game but was tired in the end)... Now is that a good thing against Ehaddadi? i'd like to think so, i'd like to think that no one player can defeat us. i am more wary other teams hitting from all angles over one player possibly scoring 50 points against us and defeating us...
art00
08-10-2009, 12:33 PM
This guy knows how to avoid fouls but doesnt know how to avoid a confrontation.
Pikon si Hadadi so go Mic. Pikonin mo yan para masira ang laro.
Yeah, I remember that aborted game against Jordan in the Jones Cup. I think the refs messed that one up. Ehadadi should have been thrown out of that game... and probably half of the Jordanian team.
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b3lowzro
08-10-2009, 12:37 PM
* 77-70, "7" in reverse is "L" for the "Laban" sign.
* Our shooting was phenomenal from the three-point area, 50%, almost miraculous, not the norm.
* Our opponents shooting was horrendously bad from the same area, only 7%, not the norm.
* James Yap, the son-in-law of Cory Aquino, the symbol for the "Laban" sign, had his best game in the tournament thus far.
* Perhaps it really is true we have a bit of "help" from elsewhere. LOL
6th woman on the court i might say
mygfluvsblue
08-10-2009, 12:37 PM
We haven't shown any semblance of a zone the past three games. Yeng trusts him men to show up and fight 'em individually. That is both good and bad, we are getting abused at times (even the guards!) but are forcing the teams to play one-on-one basketball! (Just like what happened with the long-haird Taiwan center, he was so effective for 80 per cent of the game but was tired in the end)... Now is that a good thing against Ehaddadi? i'd like to think so, i'd like to think that no one player can defeat us. i am more wary other teams hitting from all angles over one player possibly scoring 50 points against us and defeating us...
nice point bro. I dont think this guy can play 40 mins of quality basketball. Somewhere, in the periods, he will rest.
ARISTOTLE
08-10-2009, 12:38 PM
bro next time please dont make predictions like this
WE BLOWED THEM OUT IN THE THREE POINT LINE. 45-3- forty point margin. Thats what WON THE GAME FOR US. Half of the prediction came true. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
durden_tyler
08-10-2009, 12:46 PM
The 50 per cent clip from beyond calls for celebration but overlooked in all this is the fact that our guards/wings did their job on the glass. Sure we were still outrebounded (-5, 37-42 vs. Taipei) but without our perimeter hustle it could have been bigger.
Miller, Norwood, Baguio had 5 rebounds apiece.
sickcurtain_16
08-10-2009, 01:03 PM
WHAT A LUCKY NUMBER 7-7-7
If you read them upside down
L L L = Laban, Laban, Laban
http://www.asiaobserver.com/images/fbfiles/images/Corazon_Aquino.jpg
This post gave me goose bumps.
Silent Killer
08-10-2009, 01:06 PM
wow nice shootin for RP team. where is that shooting against Sokors:mad: anyways, nice game for James And willie.
Hope Japeth will do good tomorrow against Iran.
Lets see what coach yeng will do against Iran.
Will Kerby return his game against Iran?
Lebron23
08-10-2009, 01:10 PM
Great Game by James Yap and Willie Miller.
jrb0yd
08-10-2009, 01:20 PM
great win by the team but it would have a been a much better game if yeng guiao didn't commit some lapses on his part. we were comfortably ahead by 8 pts going into 4th qtr and with just a blink of an eye, taiwan made its run. why it happened? he benched james yap and norwood who was playing better defense. it's ok to rest james yap with 2-3 minutes before 3rd quarter but at the start of 4th qtr when taiwan was making its run, yap was sitting on the bench and guiao put him back with just 5 mins left. if taiwan was just hitting their outside shots and freethrows in the end, we would have lost this game. luck was on our side this time. man, this yeng guiao is always making me nervous...:eek: going into fourth quarter i was already smiling and feeling relaxed but when taiwan made its run and even led by 1, my heart was beating faster and faster... :eek: btw, i notice in our last 3 games, we always had a poor start. we always allow our opponents to build an early lead. we cannot allow this to happen in our next games... anyway goodluck to our team! Go RP!
b3lowzro
08-10-2009, 01:34 PM
great win by the team but it would have a been a much better game if yeng guiao didn't commit some lapses on his part. we were comfortably ahead by 8 pts going into 4th qtr and with just a blink of an eye, taiwan made its run. why it happened? he benched james yap and norwood who was playing better defense. it's ok to rest james yap with 2-3 minutes before 3rd quarter but at the start of 4th qtr when taiwan was making its run, yap was sitting on the bench and guiao put him back with just 5 mins left. if taiwan was just hitting their outside shots and freethrows in the end, we would have lost this game. luck was on our side this time. man, this yeng guiao is always making me nervous...:eek: going into fourth quarter i was already smiling and feeling relaxed but when taiwan made its run and even led by 1, my heart was beating faster and faster... :eek: btw, i notice in our last 3 games, we always had a poor start. we always allow our opponents to build an early lead. we cannot allow this to happen in our next games... anyway goodluck to our team! Go RP!
well we cannot expect a a perfect coaching job from Yeng Guiao who's really new in the business of international coaching.
Silent Killer
08-10-2009, 01:34 PM
advice for kerby
"STOP TAKING 3 POINTERS IF NOTHING FALLS. JUST PLAY THE WAY YOU PLAY LAST 2007. USE YOUR SLASHING AND POST MOVES THAT YOU LEARN FROM THE CAPTAIN PATRIMONIO
durden_tyler
08-10-2009, 01:34 PM
great win by the team but it would have a been a much better game if yeng guiao didn't commit some lapses on his part. we were comfortably ahead by 8 pts going into 4th qtr and with just a blink of an eye, taiwan made its run. why it happened? he benched james yap and norwood who was playing better defense. it's ok to rest james yap with 2-3 minutes before 3rd quarter but at the start of 4th qtr when taiwan was making its run, yap was sitting on the bench and guiao put him back with just 5 mins left. if taiwan was just hitting their outside shots and freethrows in the end, we would have lost this game. luck was on our side this time. man, this yeng guiao is always making nervous...:eek: going into fourth quarter i was already smiling and feeling relaxed but when taiwan made its run and even led by 1, my heart was beating faster... :eek: btw, i notice in our last 3 games, we always had a poor start. we always allow our opponents to build an early lead. we cannot allow this to happen in our next games... anyway goodluck to our team! Go RP!
(Do i have to repeat this every single time?: The ENTER button is your friend:) )
Well if it was a lapse it was an intentional lapse. He was protecting the players from fatigue. You have to remember that we have another game tomorrow at 11 AM (Less than 24 hours). i will assume the worst and that Taiwan would have that gasp anyway--- even with Yap and Norwood on the floor. So in the end, we did win the ball game, and we rested or key players a bit.
Regarding our atrocious starts... Yes, Yeng Guiao should start people who will give energy early on--- but not sacrificing our bench of course--- because it's nice to see that we can come back from these holes but i don't think we'd have the same chance against the more established teams particularly the Mideast teams... Hopefully, tomorrow's first quarter (or first 6 minutes at least) we'd have already the rhythm we built in this game.
fnorte
08-10-2009, 01:35 PM
great win by the team but it would have a been a much better game if yeng guiao didn't commit some lapses on his part. we were comfortably ahead by 8 pts going into 4th qtr and with just a blink of an eye, taiwan made its run. why it happened? he benched james yap and norwood who was playing better defense. it's ok to rest james yap with 2-3 minutes before 3rd quarter but at the start of 4th qtr when taiwan was making its run, yap was sitting on the bench and guiao put him back with just 5 mins left. if taiwan was just hitting their outside shots and freethrows in the end, we would have lost this game. luck was on our side this time. man, this yeng guiao is always making me nervous...:eek: going into fourth quarter i was already smiling and feeling relaxed but when taiwan made its run and even led by 1, my heart was beating faster and faster... :eek: btw, i notice in our last 3 games, we always had a poor start. we always allow our opponents to build an early lead. we cannot allow this to happen in our next games... anyway goodluck to our team! Go RP!
as long as we are winning its good sir...mas exciting
the guys showed great composure. hands down ako:cool:
patay-butiki
08-10-2009, 01:47 PM
your offensive games are still very disorganized, relying heavily on individual skills of the players........its exciting to see baguio's off balance shot with and 1, almost like watching a streetball game in rucker park, but plays like this is not going to make you a contender in fiba asia, let alone final spots for world championship.
Like what i said earlier, aguillar is not going to have much impact in this tournament, he does not have the post up moves, his face the basket skills are still quite raw, has the tendency to lose the ball at dribbling, too lanky to create a scoring opportunity in the paint area........ He is young and has an upside but major contribution this year? I don't see it.
a surprise to a lot of people, ct team has showcased the best zone d so far in this year's tournament, and zone d is exactly what teams like rp is scared of. if asi's stamina can't hold him for too long in the paint and the mid-range/3 ponters are not falling, i don't think rp can steal a win from ct this afternoon.
u LOL :D:D:D
chris25_moon
08-10-2009, 01:54 PM
TIANJIN – James Yap and Willie Miller combined for 11 three-point shots as Powerade-Team Pilipinas exacted revenge on haughty Chinese-Taipei, 77-70, Monday night to virtually snare a quarterfinal berth in the 25th FIBA Asia Men’s Championship.
Yap drained 6 of 11, including four in the pivotal third quarter, while Miller went 5-of-5 from rainbow territory, including the game’s biggest shot, to highlight the national team's spectacular 15 of 30 shooting from beyond the arc.
Miller beat the shot clock with 13 seconds remaining and the Philippines ahead, 72-70, to end Taipei’s hopes of repeating over the team it manhandled in front of its hometown crowd lin the William Jones Cup tournament last month.
Their third win in the preliminary round practically assured the Nationals of a spot in the final eight, but national coach Yeng Guiao wants to erase any doubts.
“Just to be sure, we have to beat Kuwait. Pero ambisyunin na natin ang Iran bukas lalo na kung magiging ganito kaganda ang shooting natin,” said Guiao.
Iran handed the Philippines its first loss in the Tokushima FIBA Asia Olympic qualifying tournament two years ago, and then clobbered the Nationals in the 2009 Jones Cup.
The RP team put behind it a horrendous shooting evening against South Korea Saturday.
In that game, the Nationals clanged 23 three-point shots as South Korea won, 69-56.
This time, the Nationals lit up the venue by burying 15 of 30 three-pointers in a deadly display of marksmanship.
Yap was awesome in the third quarter where he drilled four 3-pointers – three in succession – and completed one 3-point play as he unloaded 15 of his game-high 23 points in a scorching stretch that overwhelmed Taipei’s shooters and gave the RP team a 62-54 lead at the end of the third quarter.
So extensive was the scouting of the Taiwanese shooters, who scuttled the Nationals for 14 triples when they last met, that the RP defense, imposing an absolute clamp-down, allowed just one 3-point conversion in 15 attempts.
“We have a lot of respect for Taipei from what we saw in the Jones Cup, and we made a conscious effort to take away their three-point shot,” said Guiao. “That’s a key factor in the game.”
As brilliant as Yap was, however, it was Miller, a shooting guard masquerading as a playmaker here with Jayjay Helterbrand (8 points, 5 assists) slowed down by an old hamstring injury, who shone the brightest.
Not only did Miller go 5-of-5 from beyond the arc in contributing 17 points, he knocked down the biggest shot of the night after Taipei had come within 72-70 on free throws by guard Lee Hseuh-Lin with 1:36 left.
With the shot clock winding down, Miller let loose a cannon from slightly off top of the key to stop the advancing Taiwanese, with Gabe Norwood sealing their doom by towering over everybody else in hauling down a miss by forward Lin Chih-Chieh.
“Willie is one of our best shooters in the PBA,” Guiao told a Chinese reporter. “But he was just exceptional tonight.”
Asked by the same sportswriter to compare Miller, who was at the post-game media interview, with NBA legend Reggie Miller, Guiao grabbed the opportunity to poke fun at his former Red Bull player.
“Miller Time? For one, Reggie Miller is more good-looking. Willie is the ugly version of Reggie Miller,” Guiao said as Miller doubled over in laughter.
“But that shot really was the turning point. It was what won the game for us.”
In response to a question if the RP team’s outside shooting was a product of its extended practice sessions, Guiao said matter-of-factly: “Produkto yan ng mura at sigaw. Di naman mag-i-improve ang shooting mo overnight. They already had that in them when they got here. Kailangan lang ilabas.”
Pony-tailed center Tseng Wen-Ting led Chinese-Taipei with 21 points, sending Mick Pennisi to his fifth foul with 5:18 left in the game.
No other Taiwanese player had more than eight points, however, with the vaunted Tien Lei held down to eight points on 2-of-8 shooting.
Meanwhile, defending champion Iran, Jordan and South Korea kept their clean slates with rolling victories on Day Four of competition.
Iran mowed down Japan, 101-71; Jordan crushed Kazakhstan, 98-80; and South Korea thumped Kuwait, 78-58.
Games being played at press time are the ones between host China and United Arab Emirates, and Lebanon against Qatar.
Scores:
RP 77 – Yap 23, Miller 17, Thoss 8, Pennisi 8, Baguio 6, Helterbrand 6, Raymundo 5, Dillinger 3, Taulava 2, Norwood 2, Aguilar 0, Santos 0.:)
Taipei 70 – Tseng 21, Lee 8, Chang 8, Lin 7, Wu 6, Chang TH 6, Tien 6, Wang 4, Su 2, Yang 2, Chen 0, Wu CL 0.
Quarters: 16-21; 33-35; 62-54; 77-70.
Run'N Gun
08-10-2009, 01:55 PM
congratsssss ;D
bad start again from the phil.
Hopefully in the next games they will have a great start and better finish! :D :D
GO Team Pilipinas! we're here all the way to support you! LABAN!
patay-butiki
08-10-2009, 01:56 PM
uh yeah. See you there buddy.
Wear something bright though, I have trouble seeing people that are 5"4 and under.
When I talk about ARROGANT im talking about predicting this will be a 20-30 pt game without any basis of information.
Even a simple "We are faster and better at shooting" would've been enough, after all you are entitled to your own opinion.
wow. you are so full of humility. :cool:
Silent Killer
08-10-2009, 02:03 PM
what happen to kazaks? :confused:
apiSigbinz
08-10-2009, 02:12 PM
i am disappointed a bit actually with this game.. it seems that we don't really have set plays intended to free up our wingman for penetration.. our pattern have not changed from Korea's game, we are still relying too much on our outside shooting.. it's not bad especially if we're shooting the way we shoot today.. but what if we didn't?
what i hope for this team really is to also have some inside play.. not post up becoz we don't really have that kind of arsenal but some good drop passes from our guards will do the trick.. i've noticed that once our guards penetrate, they are only thinking of shooting the ball.. i hope our team will also work for their drop passes.. Jared and Norwood can definitely draw some body when they go hard inside.. i don't think they could be guarded one on one..
durden_tyler
08-10-2009, 02:21 PM
i am disappointed a bit actually with this game.. it seems that we don't really have set plays intended to free up our wingman for penetration.
Did you watch the game?
We had plays for that but the Taiwan players kept going under the screen or trapping up at the top (ballhandler) disallowing any form of penetration. They forced us to shoot from beyond (around 4 or 5 are 1 foot from the 3 point line) and the trapping defense resulted in a reset of playmaking. Give credit to the Taiwan team they made it hard for us.
Santi_migsky
08-10-2009, 02:23 PM
i am disappointed a bit actually with this game.. it seems that we don't really have set plays intended to free up our wingman for penetration.. our pattern have not changed from Korea's game, we are still relying too much on our outside shooting.. it's not bad especially if we're shooting the way we shoot today.. but what if we didn't?
what i hope for this team really is to also have some inside play.. not post up becoz we don't really have that kind of arsenal but some good drop passes from our guards will do the trick.. i've noticed that once our guards penetrate, they are only thinking of shooting the ball.. i hope our team will also work for their drop passes.. Jared and Norwood can definitely draw some body when they go hard inside.. i don't think they could be guarded one on one..
Actually there were instances of drop passes being shown during the 3rd-4th quarter but they couldn't just push the ball through... One example was when Jared drove hard to the basket and then suddenly passed it to Asi, but unfortunately Asi got pawned and blocked behind by Joakim Noah of Chinese Taipei:D.... They just could'nt get themselves free enough to have an uncontested shot.
Cloner
08-10-2009, 02:36 PM
I think CT game plan is to seal the paint and force our shots from the long range..
They know that we are not a shooting team, that we are made our shots
Too bad for them coz it backfires.
congrats TEAM PILIPINAS..
Lets carry win till the end of the tournament....
YAHOOOOOOO!!!!
Manila_Ice
08-10-2009, 02:46 PM
Did you watch the game?
We had plays for that but the Taiwan players kept going under the screen or trapping up at the top (ballhandler) disallowing any form of penetration. They forced us to shoot from beyond (around 4 or 5 are 1 foot from the 3 point line) and the trapping defense resulted in a reset of playmaking. Give credit to the Taiwan team they made it hard for us.
Too bad for them our outside shooting has click right on time!
Red Baron
08-10-2009, 02:47 PM
I think CT game plan is to seal the paint and force our shots from the long range..
They know that we are not a shooting team, that we are made our shots
Too bad for them coz it backfires.
congrats TEAM PILIPINAS..
Lets carry win till the end of the tournament....
YAHOOOOOOO!!!!
I agree...... the way CT play their defense, they take a gamble in our outside shot unfortunately for them and lucky for us YAp and Miller is connecting... GO RP TEAM, GOD BLESS RP TEAM, RIP CORY Aquino
Manila_Ice
08-10-2009, 02:59 PM
They have under-estimated our outside shooting capability, they thought that we won't be hitting that many 3's so accurately, they gamble on playing a zone-defense against us. I believe they have pattern their defensive scheme when they saw us play Japan, where we pumeled their big guys inside. And that caused them this game.
crouchingtiger
08-10-2009, 03:00 PM
u LOL :D:D:D
"if asi's stamina can't hold him for too long in the paint and the mid-range/3 ponters are not falling, i don't think rp can steal a win from ct this afternoon."
RP's 3 points were like crazy isn't it? :cool:
crouchingtiger
08-10-2009, 03:02 PM
Outside shooting ability of RP was indeed underestimated.....
YG is a lot more clever than Chot as the coach.
toofast23
08-10-2009, 03:05 PM
They have under-estimated our outside shooting capability, they thought that we won't be hitting that many 3's so accurately, they gamble on playing a zone-defense against us. I believe they have pattern their defensive scheme when they saw us play Japan, where we pumeled their big guys inside. And that caused them this game.
credit also goes to coach yeng and his coaching staff for anticipating what CT will do defensively, that necessary adjustment gave us the win today.
Cloner
08-10-2009, 03:12 PM
I am really surprised when we shoot that good. It seldom happens during international tournament.
patay-butiki
08-10-2009, 03:12 PM
"if asi's stamina can't hold him for too long in the paint and the mid-range/3 ponters are not falling, i don't think rp can steal a win from ct this afternoon."
RP's 3 points were like crazy isn't it? :cool:
dude, you conveniently excluded the part where you said that CT had the best ZONE D in the tournament which teams like RP feared. :p
RP NT also didn't steal the game. RP was -2 favorite. Ask your local bookie. :D:D:D
apiSigbinz
08-10-2009, 03:13 PM
Did you watch the game?
We had plays for that but the Taiwan players kept going under the screen or trapping up at the top (ballhandler) disallowing any form of penetration. They forced us to shoot from beyond (around 4 or 5 are 1 foot from the 3 point line) and the trapping defense resulted in a reset of playmaking. Give credit to the Taiwan team they made it hard for us.
i've watched the game dude.. in fact, i've seen Norwood a couple of times being trapped and nowhere to go near the baseline.. i mean, it seems they don't have some alternative.. their set plays for penetration for me is so lame..
and yes i've seen a couple of instances where Jared have some good penetration and he just couldn't convert.. i salute him for really trying unlike Norwood who was only contented dribbling around the perimeter..
they should really work in their spacing and screens intended for penetration.. i've noticed most of their screens were made to free up their 3's....
apiSigbinz
08-10-2009, 03:19 PM
Actually there were instances of drop passes being shown during the 3rd-4th quarter but they couldn't just push the ball through... One example was when Jared drove hard to the basket and then suddenly passed it to Asi, but unfortunately Asi got pawned and blocked behind by Joakim Noah of Chinese Taipei:D.... They just could'nt get themselves free enough to have an uncontested shot.
yeah i've seen that.. a very rare moment.. i was actually laughing at Asi that time..:D if it was 4 years ago, it could have been a 3 point play..
crouchingtiger
08-10-2009, 03:31 PM
dude, you conveniently excluded the part where you said that CT had the best ZONE D in the tournament which teams like RP feared. :p
RP NT also didn't steal the game. RP was -2 favorite. Ask your local bookie. :D:D:D
It was still a 50/50 game, just like whats expected. Taipei's zone D was destroyed by your 3 points and mid-range shots which was indeed not seen in the your previous matchups, including Jones cup. If you review my past posts, when you RP fans were in despair, I said YG is hiding something......
Yeng has certainly bamboozled of a lot people.....anyways, congratulations to RP for job well done. Against Jordan will be RP's main battle, if you eventually beat Jordan and be qualified in the semis, you have to give Yeng all the credit.
Manila_Ice
08-10-2009, 03:37 PM
It was still a 50/50 game, just like whats expected. Taipei's zone D was destroyed by your 3 points and mid-range shots which was indeed not seen in the your previous matchups, including Jones cup. If you review my past posts, when you RP fans were in despair, I said YG is hiding something......
Yeng has certainly bamboozled of a lot people.....anyways, congratulations to RP for job well done. Against Jordan will be RP's main battle, if you can be beat Jordan and be qualified in the semis, you have to give Yeng all the credit.
Tomorrow will be a relaxed game for our team, I guess. I am quite sure that they are already planning or drawing some plays on how to match up against Jordan or Lebanon, two teams that we might meet come the quarter-finals round of this tournament. I beleive coach Yeng have a designed play for this 2 teams. before they leave Manila he had already express concern on how we can beat this middle eastern countries, at leaset we are more prepeared now comapred to this past Jones Cup where we played like $#*%
tiffac
08-10-2009, 03:51 PM
i've watched the game dude.. in fact, i've seen Norwood a couple of times being trapped and nowhere to go near the baseline.. i mean, it seems they don't have some alternative.. their set plays for penetration for me is so lame..
and yes i've seen a couple of instances where Jared have some good penetration and he just couldn't convert.. i salute him for really trying unlike Norwood who was only contented dribbling around the perimeter..
they should really work in their spacing and screens intended for penetration.. i've noticed most of their screens were made to free up their 3's....
CT went zone and the only way to bust it wide open is to take an open 3pt shots which is what happened. CT did us a favor in this game by going underneath the screens (which we Pinoy's usually do) and we did penetrated most of our shots where kick outs. Its the basic rule of the game, pass it to the open man (and shoot the ball when your open. lolz)
Lets hope it carries over coz Norwood and Dillinger ain't exactly making those layups in fact it causes the team to lose momentum once they miss a forced shot from the inside, I rather see them move the ball and get it to the open guy, than force it inside for a turnover, we had a lot this game.
tiffac
08-10-2009, 03:54 PM
Tomorrow will be a relaxed game for our team, I guess. I am quite sure that they are already planning or drawing some plays on how to match up against Jordan or Lebanon, two teams that we might meet come the quarter-finals round of this tournament. I beleive coach Yeng have a designed play for this 2 teams. before they leave Manila he had already express concern on how we can beat this middle eastern countries, at leaset we are more prepeared now comapred to this past Jones Cup where we played like $#*%
I hope we continue to fight coz I don't want our players relaxing, we already have good momentum with the win today and relaxing off coz you know your going to lose and not try may carry over to the next game which we need to win. I say keep it respectable, that's what most fans want to see, losing is nothing, but not trying is another.
talion..
08-10-2009, 03:57 PM
wow... i just finished reading an hour's worth of comments and hurrahs.... good game RP team. i watched the replay in BTV this 9pm. CHinese Taipei has really gotten better through years of experience in international competition. It's a good thing our three pts came in. There were instances when their Zone D was effectively zeroing in on the PG and sealing off passes. there's one instance when 3 CT guys shifted to miller's side but freed Mick on the corner for three. Ol' big Mick missed the open shot though hehe.
b3lowzro
08-10-2009, 03:57 PM
i've watched the game dude.. in fact, i've seen Norwood a couple of times being trapped and nowhere to go near the baseline.. i mean, it seems they don't have some alternative.. their set plays for penetration for me is so lame..
and yes i've seen a couple of instances where Jared have some good penetration and he just couldn't convert.. i salute him for really trying unlike Norwood who was only contented dribbling around the perimeter..
they should really work in their spacing and screens intended for penetration.. i've noticed most of their screens were made to free up their 3's....
norwood is not always an offensive kind of player, Jared has more offensive prowess but indeed Gabe is the more athletic and versatile player on the court, points is not only the statistics he counts.
regierr
08-10-2009, 04:20 PM
In response to a question if the RP team’s outside shooting was a product of its extended practice sessions, Guiao said matter-of-factly: “Produkto yan ng mura at sigaw. Di naman mag-i-improve ang shooting mo overnight. They already had that in them when they got here. Kailangan lang ilabas.”
Now this is funny. :D:D:D Whatever works will use it.
saints13
08-10-2009, 04:21 PM
just got home. :)
buti na lang may replay.hehehe
http://cyberavenue.blogspot.com/2009/08/fiba-asia-philippines-vs-chinese-taipei_10.html
durden_tyler
08-10-2009, 06:06 PM
i've watched the game dude.. in fact, i've seen Norwood a couple of times being trapped and nowhere to go near the baseline.. i mean, it seems they don't have some alternative.. their set plays for penetration for me is so lame..
and yes i've seen a couple of instances where Jared have some good penetration and he just couldn't convert.. i salute him for really trying unlike Norwood who was only contented dribbling around the perimeter..
they should really work in their spacing and screens intended for penetration.. i've noticed most of their screens were made to free up their 3's....
Fair enough since i thought you agree with me that it was the Taiwanese defense that made it hard. Of course, better spacing and probably a different system will assure us that our guards can penetrate more.
saints13
08-10-2009, 06:13 PM
the Long Hair guy was superb. :)
Tien Lie was non-existent.
Japeth was missing also.. what happened to him?
was he benched on purpose? or is he still injured? :confused:
interxavierxxx
08-10-2009, 06:35 PM
the Long Hair guy was superb. :)
Tien Lie was non-existent.
Japeth was missing also.. what happened to him?
was he benched on purpose? or is he still injured? :confused:
Tien Lei was a marked man along with Lin Chi-Chieh. The long-haired guy is Tseng Wen-Tin and he didn't score that much in the Jones Cup as Tien Lei did much of the damage. Had Tseng played the same as Tien Lei back in the Jones Cup, YG would've added extra tight defense on him.
Remember, he was held to only 3 points during the 3rd quarter rally. Kudos by the way to YG for limiting the outside shots of Taiwan to only 1--this totally showed that we played good defense as our opponent made 14 back in the Jones Cup.
reamily
08-10-2009, 11:21 PM
Tien Lei was a marked man along with Lin Chi-Chieh. The long-haired guy is Tseng Wen-Tin and he didn't score that much in the Jones Cup as Tien Lei did much of the damage. Had Tseng played the same as Tien Lei back in the Jones Cup, YG would've added extra tight defense on him.
Remember, he was held to only 3 points during the 3rd quarter rally. Kudos by the way to YG for limiting the outside shots of Taiwan to only 1--this totally showed that we played good defense as our opponent made 14 back in the Jones Cup.
Lol at Andy Jao o Lin Chi "Emo" Chieh the parlorman haha:D:D:D
but wtf about his shot
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