Classification 5th - 8th: Philippines vs. Qatar

[randomguy]

Hopefully we'll win. I'd love our team to face Korea again!

[lebanese NT]

Hopefully we'll win. I'd love our team to face Korea again!

man quatar is a very strong team dont underestimate them. they gave lebanon jordan and iran hard time this tournament. lebanon and iran won by 10 jordan by 14 with a very bad quatarian game.i hope u win u deserve the 6th place at least and why not the fifth.good luck

[tiffac]

I hope our boys will come to play tomorrow, Pinoy's have a tendency not to give it our all when it comes to the classification stages.

[crouchingtiger]

Hopefully we'll win. I'd love our team to face Korea again!

You will, don't worry 'bout it:cool:

[crouchingtiger]

There are two really important game for the RP in this tournament, one being vs Jordan (lost) the other will be the battle for the 5th place. However I still think RP will place 6th this year and thats its true strength, even if you change a coach, give and take some players wont change that fact.

[Run'N Gun]

what time does this game start? :)

[d_viper]

hang over .......................... PHI vs. JOR:(

[cod3breaker]

what time does this game start? :)

Same as the Paking Shet game yesterday.

2PM.

[Run'N Gun]

thanks pare, GO Team Pilipinas!

[masketball]

Phil should take this one with out any problem, unless their spirit is beaten (which i doubt), it's a 10 point margin.

[Los]

Even though they lost to Jordan I think they still have it in their heads that this game is a "must-win game" of that possible "back-door" opportunity....they can only do better....

This game is as important as the Quarterfinal game....


- Now that I think about it.....P.I. players are really that good...they only had weeks to practice before the tournament but still managed to get to the Quarter finals and even managed to put a close-fight against the Jordanians....that's really something..

[danilo]

yeah.. the boys are good... but their are not lucky enough

but still manage to come in this stage.

may the RP team bounce back in future competition...

clap! clap!

hep! hep!!

hoorayy!!

;)

[alien space bats]

What's the point of being fifth in a continent where the level of basketball is not even good? I think our dreams finally ended yesterday. 2 years from now, we will still be fielding a talented but undersized squad. all teams by then will have at least 1 naturalized player. asa pa. we can't rely on luck anymore. PBA has closed its doors on future competitions. smart gilas can't find tall, talented guys. we get the usual small guys. there's no future for philippine basketball. not today, or 2011. unless we train 6'6 to 6'9 pinoys to play SG to SF positions, future looks very, very bleak. sorry guys. it's reality. :o

[danilo]

in every achievement...

a one step higher..

:)

[Cammomile]

What's the point of being fifth in a continent where the level of basketball is not even good? I think our dreams finally ended yesterday. 2 years from now, we will still be fielding a talented but undersized squad. all teams by then will have at least 1 naturalized player. asa pa. we can't rely on luck anymore. PBA has closed its doors on future competitions. smart gilas can't find tall, talented guys. we get the usual small guys. there's no future for philippine basketball. not today, or 2011. unless we train 6'6 to 6'9 pinoys to play SG to SF positions, future looks very, very bleak. sorry guys. it's reality. :o

you got to keep your head up-

One day the phils will go to the world champions..

[apiSigbinz]

this is going to be tough for Philippines.. Qatar is by no means an easy team to beat.. they're very athletic, very aggressive in rebounding and can dominate the inside with their big mobile players.. their only problem is they don't have outside shooting which i think RP will exploit..

[kaiziken_pinas]

we should beat the hell out of Qatar.

go for 5th. any place lower than that...... paking shet talaga

[raichu08]

according to patricia bermudez hizon on twitter, solar wont show the remaining games of powerade team pilipinas.

[weward]

i think the coach of powerade doesnt want to achieve anything more...i think he doesnt even pushed himself and the team out of its limits yesterday because his goal is already accomplished..and thats bettering our 9th place finish last 2007..
the PBA players might get injured..or he might field in arwind santos all game long..because santos is not his player in his PBA team anymore..:D:D:D


no wonder cs9 wont show it anymore..it will just be a waste of time considering that the team might just play very sloppy..

and the coach is so focused on boasting around..and telling he bettered 2007 campaign and keeps on hitting coach toroman..and the sbp program telling that its not going to work..maybe he is a fortune teller..but coach yeng i think i'm a fortune teller too and i can see that gilas will succeed and better your accomplishments by thousand times..

i'm losing my respect on that bald coach..:D

[saints13]

i saw at the fiba website..is it at 2pm?

[AlYuson]

There are two really important game for the RP in this tournament, one being vs Jordan (lost) the other will be the battle for the 5th place. However I still think RP will place 6th this year and thats its true strength, even if you change a coach, give and take some players wont change that fact.

and why not??? pls elaborate

[AlYuson]

Game time phils vs qatar 2pm manila time..this afternoon

[rycorpz]

It's a must for our team to take the 5th spot FIBA might give us a berth via wild card ( I Hope so )

[merps baller the return]

It's a must for our team to take the 5th spot FIBA might give us a berth via wild card ( I Hope so )

wild card and revenge for korea:rolleyes: pretty sweet if this happens:D im hoping:cool:

[kaiziken_pinas]

I want us to win badly.

[crouchingtiger]

and why not??? pls elaborate

The height issue, the way these players were trained and the diference between PBA and FIBA ......all these problems still exist in the Philippines basketball in general, Chot is not proven to be a FIBA tested coach, there's no single player who did not join this NT is proven FIBA tested, so why would you say if Chot was here, if etc etc were here.......its nonsense.

I would say given time, with Toroman (FIBA tested) and CJ (height) and training, RP might have a different showing in the next FIBA asia.And if PBA delacres no to join any FIBA games again, I suggest all you pinoy BB craze fans should stop watching PBA, ever again.

[crouchingtiger]

For me, I think Yeng is more witty while Chot is more exciting to watch on. But both coaches plus present players can't take RP team into final four, this is exactly the reason why I dare to predict RP is going to land betwee 6 and 7even long before Tianjin game start. Now its ovbious that RP is going to be 6th.

I am not here to argue if Chot or Yeng is better cuz whatever quality you think of one coach over the other, that quality won't take RP over that 5th place obstacle and I think your BB authority knows this, what do you think Toroman is here for?

[merps baller the return]

For me, I think Yeng is more witty while Chot is more exciting to watch on. But both coaches plus present players can't take RP team into final four, this is exactly the reason why I dare to predict RP is going to land betwee 6 and 7even long before Tianjin game start. Now its ovbious that RP is going to be 6th.

I am not here to argue if Chot or Yeng is better cuz whatever quality you think of one coach over the other, that quality won't take RP over that 5th place obstacle and I think your BB authority knows this, what do you think Toroman is here for?

O.T. crouchy what do you foresee in the smart gilas team as of today:rolleyes: just a question coz i know you are great in predicting the outcome of our national teams placing:D

[Run'N Gun]

could anyone update the score here later, coz some forumers said that solar or btv won't cover this game. thanks ;)

[crouchingtiger]

O.T. crouchy what do you foresee in the smart gilas team as of today:rolleyes: just a question coz i know you are great in predicting the outcome of our national teams placing:D

Sorry, I have not seen anything yet......I base my prediction from facts......I have zero fact on that team. Make this a rain check and I will tell you in the next FIBA asia, ok? :)

[merps baller the return]

Sorry, I have not seen anything yet......I base my prediction from facts......I have zero fact on that team. Make this a rain check and I will tell you in the next FIBA asia, ok? :)

if they compete in this coming stankovic cup, i hope you can answer me soon:)

[crouchingtiger]

if they compete in this coming stankovic cup, i hope you can answer me soon:)

They should join stankovic cup! Future NT still need to be PBA reinforced....PBA declaring "no mas " to FIBA is a disrespec to FIBA, asian neighboring countires and mostly to fun-loving BB craze pinoy fans.

[merps baller the return]

They should join stankovic cup! Future NT still need to be PBA reinforced....PBA declaring "no mas " to FIBA is a disrespec to FIBA, asian neighboring countires and mostly to fun-loving BB craze pinoy fans.

dont worry coach toroman is already "eyeing" maybe 5 pba players for his team;)

[merps baller the return]

could anyone update the score here later, coz some forumers said that solar or btv won't cover this game. thanks ;)

pilipinas vs qatar now warming up:cool:

[Cammomile]

pilipinas vs qatar now warming up:cool:

where are you watching?

[kentpaul]

What's the point of being fifth in a continent where the level of basketball is not even good? I think our dreams finally ended yesterday. 2 years from now, we will still be fielding a talented but undersized squad. all teams by then will have at least 1 naturalized player. asa pa. we can't rely on luck anymore. PBA has closed its doors on future competitions. smart gilas can't find tall, talented guys. we get the usual small guys. there's no future for philippine basketball. not today, or 2011. unless we train 6'6 to 6'9 pinoys to play SG to SF positions, future looks very, very bleak. sorry guys. it's reality. :o

they have some tall guard prospects... such as ray parks.. a 2 guard, 6'4..can grow to 6'6.....or 6'7/// hmm.chris lutz..and etc... center..we have prospects liek CJ Giles who is 6'10-6'11... or even Greg Slaughter.. at 7'1..... Smart Gilas is still capable of bringing back the Philippines' Golden Days of Basketball.. plus,.. the magical touch of Rajko Toroman.... I believe that we still have a lot of reasons to get excited about our future.. This is only the beginning.... This is not the end.. Yeng's team wasn't really expected to bring us to Turkey but to bring up the pride that we lost.... Now,...we prove them taht we are not pushovers....,and we belong at the Top 10 Asian Basketball Nation...,....... stay positive guys.

[merps baller the return]

where are you watching?

rnhalawi.com

[merps baller the return]

malapit na magsimula! ang lakas pa din ng kaba ko amf:Dtrans...even if this game is just for the classifications im still having my adrenalin rush:D

[Cammomile]

rnhalawi.com

update us plz..my net is 2 slow for the live streaming

[kaiziken_pinas]

It is starting

[merps baller the return]

7-2 qatar

[merps baller the return]

9-2 qatar, tang ina...

[TrueBluePinoy]

7-2 qatar

So it's true Yeng's gonna deliberately lose this game just like what some of us are thinking about. :D

[viperbravo]

malapit na magsimula! ang lakas pa din ng kaba ko amf:Dtrans...even if this game is just for the classifications im still having my adrenalin rush:D

May loslos ba si Aguilar?

[saints13]

http://teampilipinas.info/

another link

[bolabasket]

no motivation...

[Dinamita]

are we playing against an AFRICAN TEAM?!

:rolleyes: :D

[merps baller the return]

17-11 qatar

[timberpro]

i have a gut feeling that this RP team will drop its last 2 games.
Simply because their mind set has been washed out by the 'great' coach's statement that they have surpassed last Fiba's placing. Thats just his goal.

To think CS9 is no longer showing the games live, you can imagine the kind of support this country is getting for such tourneys. just because we didnt get into the semis, they dont telecast the games anymore.

Pathetic.

[rhk111]

Maybe they read all the "hate" posts here after they lost to Jordan, that's why they don't feel like playing anymore. LOL

[neo]

but they might still show the games on a replay basis...or maybe its live at basketball tv

[greenarcher]

BTV and CS9 SUCKS! Money first before country!

[bolabasket]

19-13

[merps baller the return]

23-16 qatar

[neo]

i hope we can win this one so that we can have a chance to beat korea...that would be an achievement as we have never beaten a korean team in fiba/asiad for so long.

[rhk111]

We're being killed off the boards, 13-6. Time to get those rebounds, boys. C'mon, give us at least a fifth place finish. I'd be happy with that. I thought you'd end up seventh.

[neo]

same problem vs the likes of jordan, iran, and lebanon...we cannot rebound

[timberpro]

but they might still show the games on a replay basis...or maybe its live at basketball tv

still, i think it is a big disappointment for them not to show it on a live basis on channel that had been showing it live for the past week.

How do they expect people to respect them. kala ko ba, matalo manalo, suportado parin sila?

[neo]

dang this santos...im not gonna watch his games anymore in the pba!!!

[bolabasket]

i just hope they'll salvage pride or whatever is left

[flipballa7]

I haven't seen an RP Team that comes back from a crushing loss that knocked them out of contention and come back strong the next game (aside from the 1998 RP Centennial Team).

It would be great if we win though. Hope we finish 5th.

[bolabasket]

my guess is that 7 and 6..

RP 7th, Korea 6th, Qatar 5th, Taipei 8th

[timberpro]

i just hope they'll salvage pride or whatever is left

they dont have pride. all they have is a bald ego.

[greenarcher]

10-0 run in the 2nd quarter. It looks like they lost all their energy to play.

This is not the way to end the tournament. :mad:

When you lose, at least lose with pride, not like this. Pathetic.

[blackbuster18]

Hi. What are the channels available to see it live in the cable?
How about the live streaming?

[rhk111]

I haven't seen an RP Team that comes back from a crushing loss that knocked them out of contention and come back strong the next game (aside from the 1998 RP Centennial Team).

It would be great if we win though. Hope we finish 5th.

The 2002 RP NT. After suffering a 1-point loss to South Korea in the semis, we lost to the Kazakhs for the Bronze.

[neo]

we can still win this one...

[merps baller the return]

arwind is just a lost boy out there!f@ck!

[neo]

cmon yeng get cyrus in there

[batgirl]

33 22 qatar

[saints13]

3 consecutive 3 pt shots made by Qatar..two of them was made by a player left open by Taulava after a pick-and-pop play..no timeout by YG.. :(

anyways, kasali pa pala si Japeth..hehehe

[TrueBluePinoy]

Good thing I'm not watching the game live.

[blackbuster18]

10-0 run in the 2nd quarter. It looks like they lost all their energy to play.

This is not the way to end the tournament. :mad:

When you lose, at least lose with pride, not like this. Pathetic.

What channel are you watching?
Or what is the site?

[rhk111]

What channel are you watching?
Or what is the site?

Just follow the play-by-play and stats page of the game here:
http://china2009.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/09/fascm/p/eid/4046/sid/7038/schedule.html

[neo]

dame nagtxt ke yeng ng mura kaya ngaun ginamit na (yeng wants to train him for the pba)

[saints13]

they always leave the #6 of Qatar open in the 3pt area, he always converts his open shots. I believe he was the one who hit the dagger shot against Gilas in Jakarta.I hope YG's staffs has scouted this Qataris. :(

[tiffac]

This game is not being shown on our national TV... what gives? :confused:

[bognut]

When you lose, at least lose with pride, not like this. Pathetic.

yeng guiao: hey 8th place is not bad, atleast a nod higher than chot's :D

[saints13]

What channel are you watching?
Or what is the site?

teampilipinas.info

[kaiziken_pinas]

watching Japeth play hurts my eyes

[timberpro]

i hope everybody boycotts guiao's BK in PBA

[greenarcher]

This game is not being shown on our national TV... what gives? :confused:

Money. Mukhang pera talaga ang Solar.

It's freaking Home TV Shopping on BTV. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

[saints13]

it's always been like this for most of this Powerade NT games since the Jones Cup..having different first fives spoils the broth for our NT..natatambakan tau sa kapaan ng kapaan.. :(

[neo]

watching Japeth play hurts my eyes

what about kerby?he seems to be playing to lose our game

[TrueBluePinoy]

I am still holding to this consolation after the Jordan game: "Imagine the repercussions if we won".

[saints13]

puro kamukha ni Nundou at Ekwe ang kalaban :)

[donspark47]

well... this is basketball everybody are contributing and suggesting what is best.. everybody has its own game plan..and coach YG and the rest of the team are also have a game plan.. and both are willing to win this competition its either you are the fans of RP team or team PILIPINAS itself the coaching staff and the players... but it comes short...well, as I can see the RP NT doing everything...

To team PILIPINAS, CONGRATULATIONS.. your efforts and time and the well to win, count me in to accept whatever you have achieve to this competition... I think you guys are also willing to win the game because you been there in the battle ground.. we the fans hurt but you guys more.. move on.. plan again...we support you TEAM PILIPINAS!

Moreover, this is a competition..one get a win and one get a loss..:(:(

[neo]

top 4 disappointments

4. helterbrand
3. aguilar
2. raymundo
1. santos

[merps baller the return]

narinig yata tayo ni santos:Di think santos hears us:D

[kaiziken_pinas]

Watching this game hurts my eyes qatar leads by 17 @ halftime

[neo]

waCK perimeter defense by RP

[neo]

narinig yata tayo ni santos:Di think santos hears us:D

nah...not enough.if he could score 20 and lead us to victory in this game then that would be the time that we could say that he played better than kerby in this tournament.

[regierr]

I'm watching the game at atdhe.net

This is pathetic. We were down by 17 in the 2nd quarter and Yeng did not even call a timeout. We are playing to lose. He is experimenting again and giving his favorite player Santos to redeem himself.

[tiffac]

Money. Mukhang pera talaga ang Solar.

It's freaking Home TV Shopping on BTV. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Your right Solar is protecting their investments the reason this game is not being shown, they want people to forget FIBA-Asia already just bec we failed to qualify.

I know what I'm saying is speculation but its d@mn disappointment to not see your NT on national TV when they are still fighting. Sheez~ :(

[rhk111]

Second Quarter summary:
- We're shooting bricks from the 3-point area, only 25%, while Qatar is shooting very well from there, 55%.
- We're also shooting bricks from the 2-point area, only 39%, while Qatar is shooting very well also from there, 53%.
- Still losing the rebounding battle, 25-17
- Seventeen point lead by the Qataris at the half.

Not good, definitely. Looks like we will now be gunning for seventh if we lose this game.

[saints13]

there's nothing fancy about the way Qatar plays basketball..they are just more efficient and more fundamentally sound against our NT from what I am saw during the first two quarters.

[timberpro]

top 4 disappointments

4. helterbrand
3. aguilar
2. raymundo
1. santos

Adding Baldy in your list....

[batgirl]

32 49 qatar end of 1st half

[saints13]

I hope after the 1st half RP will make some adjustments, seems like the 3pt shooters of Qatar are having their open looks althroughout the 1st half :(

[tiffac]

I'm not able to watch my DSL speed is slow and crappy, is our guys even making an effort out there or did they pretty much didn't play like what happened back in 2007 when we didn't qualify?

[neo]

Your right Solar is protecting their investments the reason this game is not being shown, they want people to forget FIBA-Asia already just bec we failed to qualify.

I know what I'm saying is speculation but its d@mn disappointment to not see your NT on national TV when they are still fighting. Sheez~ :(

but the way yeng and his boys have played the first-half of the game against qatar, one could say that solar sports is a genius for not showing this game.

[merps baller the return]

Your right Solar is protecting their investments the reason this game is not being shown, they want people to forget FIBA-Asia already just bec we failed to qualify.

I know what I'm saying is speculation but its d@mn disappointment to not see your NT on national TV when they are still fighting. Sheez~ :(

with all due respect sir...rnhalawi said earlier in his website that fiba only allowed 2 semifinal games to be aired on BTV;) locally

[merps baller the return]

if we still dont hit our shots at the second half were doomed:(

[granadaddy]

So what's the score?

[kaiziken_pinas]

@ tRUE BLOOD PINOY


hey, if we lose this we might end up getting 7th place.

if Korea loses tomorrow, they'll be 6th.

you are a psychic!!!! *Bows*

[bognut]

So what's the score?

its 49-32 QAT at the half

[viperbravo]

So what's the score?

49-32 qatar

[interxavierxxx]

i hope everybody boycotts guiao's BK in PBA

I hope everybody boycotts the PBA from the now on.

[neo]

I'm not able to watch my DSL speed is slow and crappy, is our guys even making an effort out there or did they pretty much didn't play like what happened back in 2007 when we didn't qualify?

rp played well in the classification round of 2007

this time?as pathetic as a game could get.we have 2 quarters to get our game going.its fine that we finished 5th or 6th. but to lose this game and placed 7 or worse, 8th?let us stick with the amateurs and no more pros.at least those guys play with their hearts regardless of the games.hence we see players from adamson and up or arellano and EAC still playing hard every game and their fans still cheering for them. the passion to compete and to win is there.gilas will be just be polluted by pba players.at the most, get just 2 players from the pba adn that's it.and select the young ones.let us not pollute the program and system of gilas with players which have been programmed to play for money and entertainment.

[saints13]

Start of the 3rd QTR
QTR 49
PHI 32

RP team is out of sync :(

[kaiziken_pinas]

WHERE THE HELL IS mILLER|?

[timberpro]

Guiao's statement after this tourney:

"The guys have tried their best. The loss to Jordan has dampen their spirits. Notheless, given the amount of preparation this team had, getting an 8th place finish is a big achievement already. We have surpassed our FIBA 2007's finish of 9th place."

[saints13]

tsumamba nga lang ang Qatar nun sa Smart Gilas..badtrip..2 pa import ng Qatar nun, yun Gilas isa lang, si Giles lang.
eto all-PRO.. YG pa coach.. :) tambak :P

[apiSigbinz]

Qatar hitting their 3's??!!!! wtf!! if this will continue, we're fucked up!!!!

[tiffac]

with all due respect sir...rnhalawi said earlier in his website that fiba only allowed 2 semifinal games to be aired on BTV;) locally

That's why I said I was speculating. Thanks for the info, its FIBA's fault then grrr... and PLDT who gave me this lousy connection! :mad:

Oh wait they support Smart Gilas... never mind... ;)

[bsgermany]

I am really wondering, on what kind of cloud some RP-supporters are sitting - here as well as back in the Philippines, where it really looks like many have been seriously expecting this RP-team to actually qualifiy for Turkey.
I have a little distant view to it, since here from Germany I usually only watch the national team at occasions like the Jones-Cup and the Asian Champs for quite a fiew years already.
My oppinion is, that a far more realistic approach regarding the Philippines standing in the world of basketball is, that there has been a sagnificant stagnation in development and improvement compared to many other countries . unfortunately including asian countries as well. I personally see a team like Kazachstan currently with a much more promising future, and middle East countries like Lebanon, Jordan, Iran and Quatar (?) have not only caught up over the years - they left the Philippines behind. Adding countries like Korea and China to the list of countries, that would give the RP-team too much to swallow shows, where the Philippines really stand in Asia and in the world.
Noone outside the Philippines cares, if there are possibly players (PBA, or Phil-Ams, or possible future Phil-Ams or players from leagues beneath the PBA) that would have been better qualified to represent the country at a tournament like this. This is the team that stands for Philippino basketball, and either this is all you've got, or you have an internal problem that keeps better players from showing tournament after tournament and year after year.

The team we have seen here in this tournament is lacking a lot and as far as the standings is concerned right where it belongs - no more and no less!
This team is ever since the start of this tournament very one dimensional offensively (if you kill their three's, you've won the game). In the paint, they have trouble scoring as well as rebounding on either sides of the court once an opponent comes with a more physical team, and only Taulava brings along the physical appearance of a center (Aguilar is still miles away from becoming a decent center of international standard, Penisi is despite his heigh rather a SG than a PF or even C, Thoss is so so while Kerby is not really a C and not even playing well either). Taulava is 37 already, so even on him you can't rely for very much longer I guess.
I don't think this team will get anywhere near a qualification for the World Champs or the Olympics for many many more years to come, unless more money is being pumped into a basketball program, that would bring in qualified coaches from either Europe or the States and also allow the the national team to regularly face much higher ranked countries (from Europe?) on a regular bases.
Regular coach clinics for local coaches seem to be quite advisable too.

As long as the national team doesn't have first priority over the PBA, and some people in the Philippines stop believing that the PBA is the best league in Asia and possibly one of the better ones in the world (outside the Philippines, you wouldn't find too many people that would agree to that for good reasons), I don't see the future of the RP-national team any better than now.

[c_d]

top 4 disappointments

4. helterbrand
3. aguilar
2. raymundo
1. santos

Noli Eala was right when they described Japeth as someone who is still raw to compete in the PBA. I'm actually thinking that what I suspected all this time is true after all--they included Japeth in the Powerade lineup not to strengthen the team but to lure him into joining the PBA.

Remember during the Smart Gilas camp in Vegas, MVP gave a statement that they will sign Japeth and loan him to Powerade. What did the PBA do? They flew him over here so he can "join the Powerade team's practice."

[kaiziken_pinas]

Qatar 20 point lead.... Looks like we'll be 7th or 8th

[Nando]

this is embarrassing. :mad:

helterbrand 0/100 from the field

[tiffac]

rp played well in the classification round of 2007

this time?as pathetic as a game could get.we have 2 quarters to get our game going.its fine that we finished 5th or 6th. but to lose this game and placed 7 or worse, 8th?let us stick with the amateurs and no more pros.at least those guys play with their hearts regardless of the games.hence we see players from adamson and up or arellano and EAC still playing hard every game and their fans still cheering for them. the passion to compete and to win is there.gilas will be just be polluted by pba players.at the most, get just 2 players from the pba adn that's it.and select the young ones.let us not pollute the program and system of gilas with players which have been programmed to play for money and entertainment.

I dunno about playing well in 2007 coz I saw the way, we played in the classification stages and not that it was bad but you just see the fire of our guys was snuffed out already, I mean I can't blame them we miss the ticket but just like what our guys today is suppose to be doing, you play with/for pride. Only difference is I can't see the game today to make any worthy comparison. So I shall take it upon your word my friend.

2007 played fairly well and 2009 is pathetic in the classification stages. :D

[timberpro]

this is embarrassing. :mad:

helterbrand 0/100 from the field

And that's the current MVP of PBA......

[rhk111]

Noli Eala was right when they described Japeth as someone who is still raw to compete in the PBA. I'm actually thinking that what I suspected all this time is true after all--they included Japeth in the Powerade lineup not to strengthen the team but to lure him into joining the PBA.

Remember during the Smart Gilas camp in Vegas, MVP gave a statement that they will sign Japeth and loan him to Powerade. What did the PBA do? They flew him over here so he can "join the Powerade team's practice."

Japeth is OVERHYPED. That has been the story of his career. Just because he is 6'9" and can dunk really well, they think he's the next Ramon Fernandez. No sir, not necessarily .....

[neo]

helterbrand?

as i said he is a disappointment in this tournament

dont blame the injury, he was a fluke in the last fiba-asia just the same

[timberpro]

Japeth is OVERHYPED. That has been the story of his career. Just because he is 6'9" and can dunk really well, they think he's the next Ramon Fernandez. No sir, not necessarily .....

At this point, pang Sri lanka lang sya...

[greenarcher]

Simply pathetic.

I hope Guiao doesn't have the guts to claim that they will finish better than Chot's team after this blowout. With this lose, it feels they have performed worse regardless of the final standings.

Japeth is an idiot for injuring himself in a no-bearing blowout game. Ang hilig kasi manood ng highlight reels ng NBA, ayan tuloy, imbis na makatulong sa team, naging sagabal pa siya.

[kaiziken_pinas]

ANOTHER performance like this I'll be like snipes12

[regierr]

Does Yeng even have a different defensive strategy? This man-to-man worked against teams in the 1st and 2nd round but he has to realized that other teams have scouted it by now.

[apiSigbinz]

if you noticed, their play pattern don't really have an inside game.. now i'm beginning to realize how bad a coach Yeng is..... :D:D their pattern looks like amateurish.... :D:D

[neo]

Japeth is OVERHYPED. That has been the story of his career. Just because he is 6'9" and can dunk really well, they think he's the next Ramon Fernandez. No sir, not necessarily .....


at least your prediction of 7th place maximum is on track :)

[neo]

if you noticed, their play pattern don't really have an inside game.. now i'm beginning to realize how bad a coach Yeng is..... :D:D their pattern looks like amateurish.... :D:D

instead of developing a system for fiba, he applied his pba system with rp team and that's it...

[kaiziken_pinas]

we lose thats it.....

keep dreaming and hope someday dreams come true we only scored 8 points

[neo]

this game is over...losing to jordan was fine

losing to qatar with this kind of effort is SHAAAMEEEEFUUULLLLL

[tiffac]

I am really wondering, on what kind of cloud some RP-supporters are sitting - here as well as back in the Philippines, where it really looks like many have been seriously expecting this RP-team to actually qualifiy for Turkey.
I have a little distant view to it, since here from Germany I usually only watch the national team at occasions like the Jones-Cup and the Asian Champs for quite a fiew years already.
My opinion is, that a far more realistic approach regarding the Philippines standing in the world of basketball is, that there has been a sagnificant stagnation in development and improvement compared to many other countries . unfortunately including asian countries as well. I personally see a team like Kazachstan currently with a much more promising future, and middle East countries like Lebanon, Jordan, Iran and Quatar (?) have not only caught up over the years - they left the Philippines behind. Adding countries like Korea and China to the list of countries, that would give the RP-team too much to swallow shows, where the Philippines really stand in Asia and in the world.
None outside the Philippines cares, if there are possibly players (PBA, or Phil-Ams, or possible future Phil-Ams or players from leagues beneath the PBA) that would have been better qualified to represent the country at a tournament like this. This is the team that stands for Philippino basketball, and either this is all you've got, or you have an internal problem that keeps better players from showing tournament after tournament and year after year.

The team we have seen here in this tournament is lacking a lot and as far as the standings is concerned right where it belongs - no more and no less!
This team is ever since the start of this tournament very one dimensional offensively (if you kill their three's, you've won the game). In the paint, they have trouble scoring as well as rebounding on either sides of the court once an opponent comes with a more physical team, and only Taulava brings along the physical appearance of a center (Aguilar is still miles away from becoming a decent center of international standard, Penisi is despite his heigh rather a SG than a PF or even C, Thoss is so so while Kerby is not really a C and not even playing well either). Taulava is 37 already, so even on him you can't rely for very much longer I guess.
I don't think this team will get anywhere near a qualification for the World Champs or the Olympics for many many more years to come, unless more money is being pumped into a basketball program, that would bring in qualified coaches from either Europe or the States and also allow the the national team to regularly face much higher ranked countries (from Europe?) on a regular bases.
Regular coach clinics for local coaches seem to be quite advisable too.

As long as the national team doesn't have first priority over the PBA, and some people in the Philippines stop believing that the PBA is the best league in Asia and possibly one of the better ones in the world (outside the Philippines, you wouldn't find too many people that would agree to that for good reasons), I don't see the future of the RP-national team any better than now.

I respect your opinion but hoping is not really the same as expecting. lolz!!!

We know what we lack, for 2 decades we have known but nothing wrong with hoping, I mean its free after all. lolz

Good points though, food for thought.

[phillipians1]

Guiaos offense pattern is predictable. It's always taking the 3s

[saints13]

3rd QTR 1:00
QTR 66
PHI40

pansin ko lang, hindi makarebound RP sa opensa. :(
si Taulava nangangalabaw na, kawawa yun mga nakaharang :(

translation:
RP is losing this one-on-one exchanges

[chris25_moon]

40-66 lead by qatar @ 26pts...

[saints13]

the referee is doing everything to help our NT :)
seems all calls are in favor of us..lolz. :)

[rhk111]

After three quaraters:
- Twenty-six point lead after three quarters
- Still being killed off the boards, 44-29
- 16% 3-point shooting by RP, versus 42% by Qatar
- 37% 2-point shooting by RP, versus 45% by Qatar

Well, it looks like we're gonna lose this one, too.

[timberpro]

Guiaos offense pattern is predictable. It's always taking the 3s

I dont even think there is any pattern at all.... more like he just told the guys to play all u care.

[greenarcher]

Thank god this is the last PBA-RP team that is going to be sent.

I won't be surprised if they lose to either CT or Korea tomorrow by another blowout.

[Nando]

Norwood seems to be the only one who gives a shit about this game.

[timberpro]

Thank god this is the last PBA-RP team that is going to be sent.

I won't be surprised if they lose to either CT or Korea tomorrow by another blowout.

Guiao has set his goal for the lucky 8th finish

[tiffac]

Alright from the reaction and the scoreboard it clearly showed that this team ain't playing anymore, we just came out to field the floor and not to fight for pride.

That's why we still had our pride against Iran, Korea and Jordan coz we played. RP team losing is nothing, embarrassing yourself is another different thing. :eek:

[greenarcher]

They should have just defaulted the game instead of playing with no heart.


Norwood seems to be the only one who gives a shit about this game.

You can see his heart through his "Tweets".


Alright from the reaction and the scoreboard it clearly showed that this team ain't playing anymore, we just came out to field the floor and not to fight for pride.

That's why we still had our pride against Iran, Korea and Jordan coz we played. RP team losing is nothing, embarrassing yourself is another different thing. :eek:

They are embarrassing not only themselves but also the people they represent.:mad:

[batgirl]

47 70 qatar 7.40 remaining

[rhk111]

at least your prediction of 7th place maximum is on track :)

Its something that you know is going to happen, but hoping it won't.

That's why I like watching college basketball games instead. No pressure of being the best outside of the country, just being the best in that league ....

[bognut]

Japeth is OVERHYPED. That has been the story of his career. Just because he is 6'9" and can dunk really well, they think he's the next Ramon Fernandez. No sir, not necessarily .....

you can say that again! not to mention he's injury prone! :D

that's japeth alright

[phillipians1]

I dont even think there is any pattern at all.... more like he just told the guys to play all u care.

Agree. This is the most inconsistent PBA backed RP NT. Courtesy of Yeng and Barrios.

[TrueBluePinoy]

With this kind of performance, I don't think they could even finish 7th.

[SmartGilasFan]

helterbrand, arwind, kerby and japeth in the floor at the same time . WTF!!!!!!

[kaiziken_pinas]

goodbye wildcard

[timberpro]

Agree. This is the most inconsistent PBA backed RP NT. Courtesy of Yeng and Barrios.

I hope no one votes for him in Pampanga

[greenarcher]

helterbrand, arwind, kerby and japeth in the floor at the same time . WTF!!!!!!

Team Patalo is on the floor. :p


goodbye wildcard

It's not as if we will have a chance to win in the wildcard either. :p

[Nando]

Japeth's still a good prospect in my opinion. He's still young and can still develop into a good player for the Philippines.

[timberpro]

Japeth's still a good prospect in my opinion. He's still young and can still develop into a good player for the Philippines.

Should be for PBA and PBA alone.

[apiSigbinz]

that last play with Helterbrand drop passed to Japeth was the one I'm looking for in this tourney.. but it seems to me that was not part of their pattern, instinct nalang ni JJ yun..... hehehehhe

[rensquared]

"Either you die like warriors, or die like chickens!" -Rajko Toroman

This is the difference right now of Smart-Gilas and Powerade

Smar-Gilas died like warriors, they never gave up until the end.

Powerade, on the other hand, died like chickens. They gave up just like that.

For me, giving up is pathetic.

[rhk111]

Japeth's still a good prospect in my opinion. He's still young and can still develop into a good player for the Philippines.

The next Rich Alvarez, in my opinion. Which is ironic, because they are both Ateneans.

Quinito Henson might be right, after all, that Rico Maierhoffer MIGHT turn out to be better overall in terms of consistency.

[TrueBluePinoy]

"Either you die like warriors, or die like chickens!" -Rajko Toroman

This is the difference right now of Smart-Gilas and Powerade

Smar-Gilas died like warriors, they never gave up until the end.

Powerade, on the other hand, died like chickens. They gave up just like that.

For me, giving up is pathetic.

In Guiao's case, DIE LIKE CHICKEN FLAVORED BURGERS!! :D

[SmartGilasFan]

i will never watch pba games anymore!

[timberpro]

I'd love to see the Smart Gilas team dump this lousy Powerade team.

[apiSigbinz]

"Either you die like warriors, or die like chickens!" -Rajko Toroman

This is the difference right now of Smart-Gilas and Powerade

Smar-Gilas died like warriors, they never gave up until the end.

Powerade, on the other hand, died like chickens. They gave up just like that.

For me, giving up is pathetic.

Gilas are all amateur players, the passion is still high, the energy to play is still there while this team is all pro.. puro pera nalang nasa utak nitong mga to....

[timberpro]

i will never watch pba games anymore!

heheheh... tara rally tayo

[ischmemia]

At least there is still "Team Pacquiao" Switch naman tayo sa boxing and help support Nonito Donaire for his fight tomorrow.

[Los]

Gabe and Jared...hats off to these two....

[tiffac]

I hope no one votes for him in Pampanga

He's back by the current administration and its party, so you bet he will weasel his way to the governorship of Pampanga.


At least there is still "Team Pacquiao" Switch naman tayo sa boxing and help support Nonito Donaire for his fight tomorrow.

Thanks for letting me remember that and Gaby Conception is also fighting correct?

[saints13]

Qatar overwhelmed Powerade RP. they played intelligent basketball, they played slow basketball..avoiding any transition break for RP as well as controlling the boards very well. Qatar was more tactical, RP looked like they are playing out of instincts, without set plays at all.

RP played their heart out, no doubt about that. This is aint the best we've got, the PBA is not the best we've got..YG must realize that.

[bognut]

For me, giving up is pathetic.

i bet you gave up on Powerade RP team. :p

[weward]

yeng guiao said it himself..that the fate f a team doesnt rely on the coach..hahaha how dumb..

he is a bullsh!T !!!!


he even pointed out that gilas can't compete against asian teams..haha how dumb again..and he said toroman can't do anything for gilas..how dumb again..

he said he'll use the same sistem like that of us team..wow we dont have lebrons and kobes here..

coach yeng doesn't know good basketball except for nba style..and shouting and just loking fearless and poised..and making his players scared of him but still he cant educate them..



look at the plays of powerade..thats the same play from the australian searies and the pba all star...

nothing changed..except for that man to man defense that still sucks..good thing our players are athletic..

the pattern is really a sh!T..forgive me guys..but this is how i think of it..



the pattern is just someone will get the ball on the top..then the receiver will stay on his position..then two guys will move towards the one who recieved the ball then handout..then roll then "bahala kna boy,tsambahan na!"over and over..the spacing is totally wrong..the use of screens is totally wrong also..the way they open up the floor and create a situation is really tsamba..

dont call me a genius..or a crab or anything..this is how i observe the team..so if you are still blind of whats happening to powerade team just shut up and dont hate me..:D:D:D..peace..


i'm irritated at coach yeng..i think he knows that his system really s*cks and still cant see it cant carry them..still he has the guts to shout to his players..where on the first part he was the one who has crated the mistake..he didnt instill a good pattern/philosophy..


if he really thinks he is doing good..lets ask the other national team players like korea if they want coach yeng to coach them..hahaha:D:D:D:D:D

[bsgermany]

Is there a coach available for this RP-Team? How can a team shoot 8/41 three's without a coach doing something about it?? This wasn't a game, this was a very bad joke and a good laugh for everyone not supporting the Philippines.

[timberpro]

Gilas are all amateur players, the passion is still high, the energy to play is still there while this team is all pro.. puro pera nalang nasa utak nitong mga to....

yup. and to they are so proud of their speed and running game. HA! how do you expect a team averaging 28+ yrs old to out run teams with players old enough to be their kids...

[phevergy]

WHAT A SHAME!!! COACH YENG REALLY HAS AN ATTITUDE PROBLEMS:mad::mad::mad:

[chester25]

give the players some slack guys. they are the one playing on the court and not us.

we just have to accept the fact that plucking out players from the pros aint gonna work anymore.

once this is over, let us still give them their due. they sacrifice themselves to play for flag and that what matters. i believe, they also gave their all but fell short of the task.

it's time to give smart gilas the chance to do it for us. looking forward to it. cheer up guys. it's not the end of the world!

[sickcurtain_16]

He's back by the current administration and its party, so you bet he will weasel his way to the governorship of Pampanga.



Thanks for letting me remember that and Gaby Conception is also fighting correct?

It's Abe Concepcion, not Gaby who is KC's father.:D

Hopefully, Pacman's next fight would be against an Iranian, Jordanian or a Qatari. hehehhe

[timberpro]

Is there a coach available for this RP-Team? How can a team shoot 8/41 three's without a coach doing something about it?? This wasn't a game, this was a very bad joke and a good laugh for everyone not supporting the Philippines.

there is one bald ego, walking up and down the sideline with his arms folded.

[saints13]

FORGET THE SCORE :)
QTR *$
RP %^

I'm curious about Mick, he seems friendly during the whole tournament :)
I'm excited about YG's post-game interview, I wish the natural high against beating Japan in the early rounds is already gone... :rolleyes:

[TrueBluePinoy]

To PBA specially to Kume: Prepare for one of the worst gate attendances ever! FREE TICKETS MAYBE?? Naaaaaat!!

[saints13]

It's Abe Concepcion, not Gaby who is KC's father.:D

Hopefully, Pacman's next fight would be against an Iranian, Jordanian or a Qatari. hehehhe

natawa naman ako dun, hehehe..imagine Gaby Concepcion makikipagboxing..hehehe..

translation:
Gaby is not a boxer, he is a womanizer :D

[Nando]

The next Rich Alvarez, in my opinion. Which is ironic, because they are both Ateneans.

Nah, Japeth can be much better than Rich. I was never impressed with Rich even when he was still playing in college. I've always thought that he'll just be a squad player in the PBA. Whereas Japeth's 6'9, fast and very athletic, you can't teach that. He just needs to learn some post up moves, and bulk up. The kid's got potential. I guess a lot of us where just expecting too much from him in this tournament.


Quinito Henson might be right, after all, that Rico Maierhoffer MIGHT turn out to be better overall in terms of consistency.

Haven't seen much of Rico Maierhoffer so I can't comment on that.

[rhk111]

Final game stats:
- 54-37 edge in rebounds for the Qataris
- Only 20% 3-point shooting by RP, 39% for the Qataris
- Eighteen point win by Qataris

[saints13]

To PBA specially to Kume: Prepare for one of the worst gate attendances ever! FREE TICKETS MAYBE?? Naaaaaat!!

well, many Filipinos don't know what's happening in Tianjin all this month..hehehe..if this game was on primetime on ch.2 or ch.7, expect the worst for the PBA. lolz

[merps baller the return]

well thats it for PBA backed rp team, i want SMART GILAS to destroy every PBA TEAM this coming season:D

[TrueBluePinoy]

well, many Filipinos don't know what's happening in Tianjin all this month..hehehe..if this game was on primetime on ch.2 or ch.7, expect the worst for the PBA. lolz

Our newspapers will do the honors I'm sure.

[rensquared]

Is there a coach available for this RP-Team? How can a team shoot 8/41 three's without a coach doing something about it?? This wasn't a game, this was a very bad joke and a good laugh for everyone not supporting the Philippines.


His name is Coach Rajko Toroman.

[timberpro]

Guiao's post game interview:

"Im proud of our team. The guys did their best. The loss to Jordan has dampen their spirits. Nonetheless, given the amount of preparation this team had, getting an 8th place finish is a big achievement already. We have surpassed our FIBA 2007's finish of 9th place."


GUIAO.... YOU ARE ONE SICK PATHETIC SHIT

[saints13]

Our newspapers will do the honors I'm sure.

I don't know about the tabloids..but so far, from what I read on the broadsheets, it seems like they are still protecting the image of the PBA, they always declare that RP faced a powerhouse team whenever Powerade loose..
anyways, I think Nap Gutierez would be unforgiving with his column in the tabloids.hehehe.

[TrueBluePinoy]

I don't know about the tabloids..but so far, from what I read on the broadsheets, it seems like they are still protecting the image of the PBA, they always declare that RP faced a powerhouse team whenever Powerade loose..
anyways, I think Nap Gutierez would be unforgiving with his column in the tabloids.hehehe.

How about Zaldy Andaya??:D:D

[tiffac]

Is there a coach available for this RP-Team? How can a team shoot 8/41 three's without a coach doing something about it?? This wasn't a game, this was a very bad joke and a good laugh for everyone not supporting the Philippines.

The coach is the reason, that our most qualified shooters was not chosen for the team.

[hawke12]

for a Team that Played competitive basketball just 1 month before this Tournament... What can you xpect... For me being in the Top 8 is already good.. Maybe it This team Played and Practice for a year and show this kind of Game.. That would be very dissapointing...

Too bad The PBA is not into International Basketball unlike When Noli Eala was still the PBA Commish...

[pachador]

there is a new RP team that is replacing the PBA Powerade RP team. its handles by SBP and is called smart gilas coached by Mr. Toroman from Serbia , the former coach of the Iranian national team. its well funded and fans have high hopes for it because it is bannered by the tallest young players. I did not expect much from the current PBA powerade RP team because it had very short preparation time unlike the 2007 team and her filipino coach is very controversial.


Is there a coach available for this RP-Team? How can a team shoot 8/41 three's without a coach doing something about it?? This wasn't a game, this was a very bad joke and a good laugh for everyone not supporting the Philippines.

[neo]

do not put all the blame in him...the circumstances on their formation and training was dependent of the pba board. he is merely a pawn.blame the whole pba for the mess.

[pachador]

Powerade team poll;

powerhouse or powerpuff ? :D

[Nando]

Guiao's post game interview:

"Im proud of our team. The guys did their best. The loss to Jordan has dampen their spirits. Nonetheless, given the amount of preparation this team had, getting an 8th place finish is a big achievement already. We have surpassed our FIBA 2007's finish of 9th place."


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It must be really hard for our players playing for such an absolutely shit coach.

[tiffac]

for a Team that Played competitive basketball just 1 month before this Tournament... What can you xpect... For me being in the Top 8 is already good.. Maybe it This team Played and Practice for a year and show this kind of Game.. That would be very dissapointing...

Too bad The PBA is not into International Basketball unlike When Noli Eala was still the PBA Commish...

Well it may be a blessing in disguise that Eala is no longer the PBA commish, I mean more people here are saying that the lost of our NT is actually good for the better of Philippine Basketball, imagine that. lolz!


do not put all the blame in him...the circumstances on their formation and training was dependent of the pba board. he is merely a pawn.blame the whole pba for the mess.

Good point but this is actually the 1st time I've directly blamed Yeng coz I could not take the final interview, he just did. It sounded like an excuse...

[apiSigbinz]

To PBA specially to Kume: Prepare for one of the worst gate attendances ever! FREE TICKETS MAYBE?? Naaaaaat!!

i hope so.. we are part to blame in our failures in the international basketball.. if people will still watch PBA, naturally there won't be any change.. PBA will still bleed the people's money to dry... ok lang naman eh meron naman nanonood ng PBA..... but if nobody watch PBA anymore, ticket sales will drop significantly and hopefully they might realize that in order to regain fan attendace they should do well internationally....

i'm sure makapasok man lang ang Philippines in the world championship most of us here will be satisfied.... wla naman siguro dito nghahangad na talunin natin ang Spain or USA.... the thrill watching our favorite PBA star playing against NBA legends are enough for us.. yun lang naman habol natin for now...

[hawke12]

I feel somehow in this game that This Coach Kalbz way of Protesting against the PBA... For putting him and the Players in a situation that he knows his team will not win... PBA should be the One ashamed for putting There Players in this kind of Situation if they were serious about winning... This should have excuse the NT players before the Fiesta Cup started to practice for the NT...

[phillipians1]

Guiao's post game interview:

"Im proud of our team. The guys did their best. The loss to Jordan has dampen their spirits. Nonetheless, given the amount of preparation this team had, getting an 8th place finish is a big achievement already. We have surpassed our FIBA 2007's finish of 9th place."


GUIAO.... YOU ARE ONE SICK PATHETIC SHIT

to Guiao n Barrios. This is all your fault. You formed the Team 10 mos ago and yet you did nothing to expose them to international game. No program at all.
But to Jared, Gabe n Baguio they deserve crongratulations. theyre the only consistent players in this team.

The PBA style game is exposed. Very inferior.

[pachador]

if Gilas amateur team will place 3rd or higher in the PBA conference, then thats 1 more good reason for hiring a foreign coach to share coaching technology, and 1 less reason for BCAP local coaches to wine and cry over the hiring of foreign coaches.


well thats it for PBA backed rp team, i want SMART GILAS to destroy every PBA TEAM this coming season:D

[greenarcher]

1/11 from the 3pt line for 1 Player is already crazy even for PBA standards. But to do this in the international game?

Pathetic showing by an "MVP".

[caputrukahs16]

give the players some slack guys. they are the one playing on the court and not us.

we just have to accept the fact that plucking out players from the pros aint gonna work anymore.

once this is over, let us still give them their due. they sacrifice themselves to play for flag and that what matters. i believe, they also gave their all but fell short of the task.

it's time to give smart gilas the chance to do it for us. looking forward to it. cheer up guys. it's not the end of the world!

well i don't buy your reason man not to disrespect you or something, but they are there to fight for pride of the filipinos and yet they just rolled over like dogs who where told by their owners to lie down and play dead.
this tournament is not yet over coz we are suppose to be playing for respectability and not some mere improvement in placing so that someones gonna be bragging about something this kind of mentality should stop right now not only in basketball but for everything else:mad:

[dxjayrock2008]

To Yeng Guiao and Sunny Virus:YOU'RE SUCH A BUNCH OF LOSERS!

[hawke12]

I feel somehow in this game that This Coach Kalbz way of Protesting against the PBA... For putting him and the Players in a situation that he knows his team will not win... PBA should be the One ashamed for putting There Players in this kind of Situation if they were serious about winning... This should have excuse the NT players before the Fiesta Cup started to practice for the NT:(:(:(

[nardy]

what a waste, the SBP had lobbied hard to get the POWERADE another chance to get to Istanbul, they worked on having a wildcard tournament so that the 4th and 5th placers of FIBA-Asia could have that opportunity. And especifically they were trying to work that out so that POWERADE would get that chance. But the way it looks, our PBA Pros are not interested to play in said wildcard tournament. I have no problem of our teams losing but they should have playf their best as they are representing the country. But to play to lose is a disgrace. They might be the best players in the land but they turned their back on the their responsibility to the country with the way they played against Qatar or even that against Kuwait. Where is their Filipino Pride.

I give my salute to Gabe Norwood who gave his all, no matter what.

Our players' bad habit of not interested anymore of playing if ever they are no longer Championship contenders must be corrected. I do not know if you noticed this kind of attitude even in the different leagues and tournaments here in the Philippines, that is why several tournaments had to do away with the 3rd place game as the players seems to be disinterested in playing and does not give a damn if they win or lose.

[tiffac]

i hope so.. we are part to blame in our failures in the international basketball.. if people will still watch PBA, naturally there won't be any change.. PBA will still bleed the people's money to dry... ok lang naman eh meron naman nanonood ng PBA..... but if nobody watch PBA anymore, ticket sales will drop significantly and hopefully they might realize that in order to regain fan attendace they should do well internationally....

i'm sure makapasok man lang ang Philippines in the world championship most of us here will be satisfied.... wla naman siguro dito nghahangad na talunin natin ang Spain or USA.... the thrill watching our favorite PBA star playing against NBA legends are enough for us.. yun lang naman habol natin for now...

Well you can't really put the blame on basketball loving fans, I mean look at our country more than half are under educated and is in the poverty line, the only remorse most people have in daily life is to watch the PBA on TV or listen to it on the radio.

For me its ok to not even getting a ticket to Turkey as long as we did not have a out of control game like today mirroring the Jones Cup last month. We where suppose to be going for "respect" but how can we get it when we show a lack of character today.

[dxjayrock2008]

Now, it's time to concentrate to our young warriors of Smart Gilas Team Pilipinas. May the wisdom of coach toroman be their guide and to become great basketball players in asia.

[merps baller the return]

common guys lets get over it, wala na tayong magagawa nandyan na yan eh;) trans...the kapampangans should boycott yeng guiao this coming elections:D and let us give salute to the likes of asi,mick,jared,and gabe...oh and i almost forgot skyrus:D

[bognut]

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk305/pinoybiscuits7008/a1-45.jpg
It must be really hard for our players playing for such an absolutely shit coach.

it's like playing in the hole in the wall. they didnt even attempted to fit into the hole. they just jumped right into the water. :D

still props to norwood though dilinger and mic!

as for the 3 musketeers (jj, arwind, kerby) plus yeng "the arrogant fool" guiao...


your such a Loser!!! :p hehe just kiddin.

[timberpro]

do not put all the blame in him...the circumstances on their formation and training was dependent of the pba board. he is merely a pawn.blame the whole pba for the mess.

training... maybe. But for the formation, the PBA board actually gave baldy the go signal to hand pick whoever he wants. Barrios even commented before that PBA will not at all influence or contradict whoever Guiao picked.

[insulares]

The astronomically high basketball standards of stand-up comedian Sonny Barriosaurus: :p

(subtitled: this guy is so full of shit)

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Barrios proud of RP cagers’ China stint

By NICK GIONGCO
August 14, 2009, 6:43pm

TIANJIN, CHINA — PBA Commissioner Renauld “Sonny” Barrios considers his experience with the Philippine team in the ongoing FIBA-Asia Championship as one of the highlights of his commissionership.

Being with the RP team, according to Barrios, is an experience worth telling many times over.

It’s wonderful and very fulfilling.

“Not because I may not have the chance to address you guys again, I want to thank you all for this wonderful experience you’ve given me personally,”

Barrios said after the viewing session with RP team coach Yeng Guiao and the rest of the players.

“So far, what you have achieved is us avoiding going home with our heads bowed because of shame that we will be the poorest achievers in the history of PBA (formed RP team),” Barrios added.

“In fact, I think, when we get back to Manila I’ll get a little depressed going back to our respective day jobs. I as your commissioner, you as ball club players, coach here as coach of Burger King,” he said.

“But this experience, you know when I retire, and my grandchildren to be asks me ‘Lolo what are your happiest days when you were PBA commissioner?’ With out a doubt I’ll say ‘During the time with you guys.'"

“You will never see me this happy in my day job as PBA commissioner, for making me experience this enjoyment and feeling fulfilled. I will never experience this again,” Barrios added.

It was actually Barrios who handpicked Guiao to form, train and handle the team for this qualifying tournament for the World Championship slated next year in Turkey.

With the team now in the quarterfinals, the country’s worst finish would be eighth, which is better than the disappointing ninth of the previous national team mentored by Chot Reyes during the FIBA-Asia Championship in 2007 in Tokushima, Japan, the qualifying tournament then for the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/215914/barrios-proud-rp-cagers-china-stint

[tiffac]

common guys lets get over it, wala na tayong magagawa nandyan na yan eh;) trans...the kapampangans should boycott yeng guiao this coming elections:D and let us give salute to the likes of asi,mick,jared,and gabe...oh and i almost forgot skyrus:D

Nah in the end we should salute all the players even if some played bad, this out come is the result of half hearted preparation done by the PBA. In the end Yeng and the players are the PBA's scapegoats.

[timberpro]

it's like playing in the hole in the wall. they didnt even attempted to fit into the hole. they just jumped right into the water. :D

still props to norwood though dilinger and mic!

as for the 3 musketeers (jj, arwind, kerby) plus yeng "the arrogant fool" guiao...


your such a Loser!!! :p hehe just kiddin.

Kidding aside.... Loser talga sya:p

[TrueBluePinoy]

The astronomically high basketball standards of stand-up comedian Sonny Barriosaurus: :p

(subtitled: this guy is so full of shit)

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Barrios proud of RP cagers’ China stint

By NICK GIONGCO
August 14, 2009, 6:43pm

TIANJIN, CHINA — PBA Commissioner Renauld “Sonny” Barrios considers his experience with the Philippine team in the ongoing FIBA-Asia Championship as one of the highlights of his commissionership.

Being with the RP team, according to Barrios, is an experience worth telling many times over.

It’s wonderful and very fulfilling.

“Not because I may not have the chance to address you guys again, I want to thank you all for this wonderful experience you’ve given me personally,”

Barrios said after the viewing session with RP team coach Yeng Guiao and the rest of the players.

“So far, what you have achieved is us avoiding going home with our heads bowed because of shame that we will be the poorest achievers in the history of PBA (formed RP team),” Barrios added.

“In fact, I think, when we get back to Manila I’ll get a little depressed going back to our respective day jobs. I as your commissioner, you as ball club players, coach here as coach of Burger King,” he said.

“But this experience, you know when I retire, and my grandchildren to be asks me ‘Lolo what are your happiest days when you were PBA commissioner?’ With out a doubt I’ll say ‘During the time with you guys.'"

“You will never see me this happy in my day job as PBA commissioner, for making me experience this enjoyment and feeling fulfilled. I will never experience this again,” Barrios added.

It was actually Barrios who handpicked Guiao to form, train and handle the team for this qualifying tournament for the World Championship slated next year in Turkey.

With the team now in the quarterfinals, the country’s worst finish would be eighth, which is better than the disappointing ninth of the previous national team mentored by Chot Reyes during the FIBA-Asia Championship in 2007 in Tokushima, Japan, the qualifying tournament then for the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/215914/barrios-proud-rp-cagers-china-stint

&U(**@#%*()#*%)(&)&@)&)(&$()&()&@ KA!!:mad::mad:

[pachador]

mental conditioning and attitude is very poor, this needs to be corrected. i hope this is not due to their superstar status in philippines that they act like brats. hopefully i am wrong :confused: anyway, Gilas team is replacing them .



what a waste, the SBP had lobbied hard to get the POWERADE another chance to get to Istanbul, they worked on having a wildcard tournament so that the 4th and 5th placers of FIBA-Asia could have that opportunity. And especifically they were trying to work that out so that POWERADE would get that chance. But the way it looks, our PBA Pros are not interested to play in said wildcard tournament. I have no problem of our teams losing but they should have playf their best as they are representing the country. But to play to lose is a disgrace. They might be the best players in the land but they turned their back on the their responsibility to the country with the way they played against Qatar or even that against Kuwait. Where is their Filipino Pride.

I give my salute to Gabe Norwood who gave his all, no matter what.

Our players' bad habit of not interested anymore of playing if ever they are no longer Championship contenders must be corrected. I do not know if you noticed this kind of attitude even in the different leagues and tournaments here in the Philippines, that is why several tournaments had to do away with the 3rd place game as the players seems to be disinterested in playing and does not give a damn if they win or lose.

[tiffac]

The astronomically high basketball standards of stand-up comedian Sonny Barriosaurus: :p

(subtitled: this guy is so full of shit)

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Barrios proud of RP cagers’ China stint

By NICK GIONGCO
August 14, 2009, 6:43pm

TIANJIN, CHINA — PBA Commissioner Renauld “Sonny” Barrios considers his experience with the Philippine team in the ongoing FIBA-Asia Championship as one of the highlights of his commissionership.

Being with the RP team, according to Barrios, is an experience worth telling many times over.

It’s wonderful and very fulfilling.

“Not because I may not have the chance to address you guys again, I want to thank you all for this wonderful experience you’ve given me personally,”

Barrios said after the viewing session with RP team coach Yeng Guiao and the rest of the players.

“So far, what you have achieved is us avoiding going home with our heads bowed because of shame that we will be the poorest achievers in the history of PBA (formed RP team),” Barrios added.

“In fact, I think, when we get back to Manila I’ll get a little depressed going back to our respective day jobs. I as your commissioner, you as ball club players, coach here as coach of Burger King,” he said.

“But this experience, you know when I retire, and my grandchildren to be asks me ‘Lolo what are your happiest days when you were PBA commissioner?’ With out a doubt I’ll say ‘During the time with you guys.'"

“You will never see me this happy in my day job as PBA commissioner, for making me experience this enjoyment and feeling fulfilled. I will never experience this again,” Barrios added.

It was actually Barrios who handpicked Guiao to form, train and handle the team for this qualifying tournament for the World Championship slated next year in Turkey.

With the team now in the quarterfinals, the country’s worst finish would be eighth, which is better than the disappointing ninth of the previous national team mentored by Chot Reyes during the FIBA-Asia Championship in 2007 in Tokushima, Japan, the qualifying tournament then for the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/215914/barrios-proud-rp-cagers-china-stint

Talk about putting a spin on things, shameless like our Politicians.

[greenarcher]

After today's game kinakain na ni Barrios yun mga sinabi niya. :D

[TrueBluePinoy]

Wow! What a way for the last ever RP NT composed of PBA of players to go out like that! Really reflects what's happening in the league itself! :mad:

[pachador]

he is full of barrio mentality. trying to pull our eggs..

Barrios proud of RP cagers’ China stint

By NICK GIONGCO
August 14, 2009, 6:43pm

TIANJIN, CHINA — PBA Commissioner Renauld “Sonny” Barrios considers his experience with the Philippine team in the ongoing FIBA-Asia Championship as one of the highlights of his commissionership.

Being with the RP team, according to Barrios, is an experience worth telling many times over.

It’s wonderful and very fulfilling.

“Not because I may not have the chance to address you guys again, I want to thank you all for this wonderful experience you’ve given me personally,”

Barrios said after the viewing session with RP team coach Yeng Guiao and the rest of the players.

“So far, what you have achieved is us avoiding going home with our heads bowed because of shame that we will be the poorest achievers in the history of PBA (formed RP team),” Barrios added.

“In fact, I think, when we get back to Manila I’ll get a little depressed going back to our respective day jobs. I as your commissioner, you as ball club players, coach here as coach of Burger King,” he said.

“But this experience, you know when I retire, and my grandchildren to be asks me ‘Lolo what are your happiest days when you were PBA commissioner?’ With out a doubt I’ll say ‘During the time with you guys.'"

“You will never see me this happy in my day job as PBA commissioner, for making me experience this enjoyment and feeling fulfilled. I will never experience this again,” Barrios added.

It was actually Barrios who handpicked Guiao to form, train and handle the team for this qualifying tournament for the World Championship slated next year in Turkey.

With the team now in the quarterfinals, the country’s worst finish would be eighth, which is better than the disappointing ninth of the previous national team mentored by Chot Reyes during the FIBA-Asia Championship in 2007 in Tokushima, Japan, the qualifying tournament then for the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/215914/barrios-proud-rp-cagers-china-stint[/QUOTE]

[merps baller the return]

The astronomically high basketball standards of stand-up comedian Sonny Barriosaurus: :p

(subtitled: this guy is so full of shit)

*************************************************

Barrios proud of RP cagers’ China stint

By NICK GIONGCO
August 14, 2009, 6:43pm

TIANJIN, CHINA — PBA Commissioner Renauld “Sonny” Barrios considers his experience with the Philippine team in the ongoing FIBA-Asia Championship as one of the highlights of his commissionership.

Being with the RP team, according to Barrios, is an experience worth telling many times over.

It’s wonderful and very fulfilling.

“Not because I may not have the chance to address you guys again, I want to thank you all for this wonderful experience you’ve given me personally,”

Barrios said after the viewing session with RP team coach Yeng Guiao and the rest of the players.

“So far, what you have achieved is us avoiding going home with our heads bowed because of shame that we will be the poorest achievers in the history of PBA (formed RP team),” Barrios added.

“In fact, I think, when we get back to Manila I’ll get a little depressed going back to our respective day jobs. I as your commissioner, you as ball club players, coach here as coach of Burger King,” he said.

“But this experience, you know when I retire, and my grandchildren to be asks me ‘Lolo what are your happiest days when you were PBA commissioner?’ With out a doubt I’ll say ‘During the time with you guys.'"

“You will never see me this happy in my day job as PBA commissioner, for making me experience this enjoyment and feeling fulfilled. I will never experience this again,” Barrios added.

It was actually Barrios who handpicked Guiao to form, train and handle the team for this qualifying tournament for the World Championship slated next year in Turkey.

With the team now in the quarterfinals, the country’s worst finish would be eighth, which is better than the disappointing ninth of the previous national team mentored by Chot Reyes during the FIBA-Asia Championship in 2007 in Tokushima, Japan, the qualifying tournament then for the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/215914/barrios-proud-rp-cagers-china-stint

wtf! stop comparing chot"s team to this team, if chots team had the luxury of this kind of grouping they could have gone all the way:rolleyes: this stupid barrios is full of sh@t!

[dxjayrock2008]

Maybe sunny virus must find a new job. As an albularyo! LOLZ!

[timberpro]

I just hope media will criticize this kind of humiliation this team has given our country

[hawke12]

The astronomically high basketball standards of stand-up comedian Sonny Barriosaurus: :p

(subtitled: this guy is so full of shit)

*************************************************

Barrios proud of RP cagers’ China stint

By NICK GIONGCO
August 14, 2009, 6:43pm

TIANJIN, CHINA — PBA Commissioner Renauld “Sonny” Barrios considers his experience with the Philippine team in the ongoing FIBA-Asia Championship as one of the highlights of his commissionership.

Being with the RP team, according to Barrios, is an experience worth telling many times over.

It’s wonderful and very fulfilling.

“Not because I may not have the chance to address you guys again, I want to thank you all for this wonderful experience you’ve given me personally,”

Barrios said after the viewing session with RP team coach Yeng Guiao and the rest of the players.

“So far, what you have achieved is us avoiding going home with our heads bowed because of shame that we will be the poorest achievers in the history of PBA (formed RP team),” Barrios added.

“In fact, I think, when we get back to Manila I’ll get a little depressed going back to our respective day jobs. I as your commissioner, you as ball club players, coach here as coach of Burger King,” he said.

“But this experience, you know when I retire, and my grandchildren to be asks me ‘Lolo what are your happiest days when you were PBA commissioner?’ With out a doubt I’ll say ‘During the time with you guys.'"

“You will never see me this happy in my day job as PBA commissioner, for making me experience this enjoyment and feeling fulfilled. I will never experience this again,” Barrios added.

It was actually Barrios who handpicked Guiao to form, train and handle the team for this qualifying tournament for the World Championship slated next year in Turkey.

With the team now in the quarterfinals, the country’s worst finish would be eighth, which is better than the disappointing ninth of the previous national team mentored by Chot Reyes during the FIBA-Asia Championship in 2007 in Tokushima, Japan, the qualifying tournament then for the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/215914/barrios-proud-rp-cagers-china-stint

Poor Coach Chot Reyes...:(:(:(

[Butata]

if Gilas amateur team will place 3rd or higher in the PBA conference, then thats 1 more good reason for hiring a foreign coach to share coaching technology, and 1 less reason for BCAP local coaches to wine and cry over the hiring of foreign coaches.

Don't mind the BCAP, sir. That group is shit. It's as irrelevant as the BAP. They had the temerity to harrass Ron Jacobs from the Busan team and Toroman last year.

It's becoming clear every year that the real problem besetting the RP Team is not the PBA per se, but the lack of a visionary coach. And obviously all PBA coaches are in one way or another stagnated by the PBA style of play.

Put the prime Ron Jacobs or Toroman with this same bunch of RP Team players and I assure you the results will be much better. I remember Jacobs was so engrained in the details of scouting that even the refs who will officiate the games are scouted!!! No PBA coach will ever put in that kind of effort, especially Guiao!!!

[dxjayrock2008]

Calling imbestigador, xxx and bitag! LOLZ!

[tiffac]

wtf! stop comparing chot"s team to this team, if chots team had the luxury of this kind of grouping they could have gone all the way:rolleyes: this stupid barrios is full of sh@t!

Not only that Chot's team was banned bec of BAP and POC conflict (F@cking BAP). Our guys time was cut short.

But Yeng's team didn't, even with Eala stepping down, Barrios and the PBA knew this was coming and yet still did a hack job preparing our guys.

There is just no excuse for that!

[merps baller the return]

Nah in the end we should salute all the players even if some played bad, this out come is the result of half hearted preparation done by the PBA. In the end Yeng and the players are the PBA's scapegoats.

yeah i respect the players, they deserve it! even the feeling "ray allen" arwind santos deserves it;)i even respect the coaching staff especialy yeng, until he said all that bullshit against the smart gilas team;)calling sir nardy, is smart gilas ready to play this season in the PBA?:D

[timberpro]

Calling imbestigador, xxx and bitag! LOLZ!

Sana ipasalvage ng Tulfo brothers si kalbo

[nardy]

Nah, Japeth can be much better than Rich. I was never impressed with Rich even when he was still playing in college. I've always thought that he'll just be a squad player in the PBA. Whereas Japeth's 6'9, fast and very athletic, you can't teach that. He just needs to learn some post up moves, and bulk up. The kid's got potential. I guess a lot of us where just expecting too much from him in this tournament.



Haven't seen much of Rico Maierhoffer so I can't comment on that.

who would teach Japeth at Burger King. Coach Yeng was never a good mentor for bigmen. History would show he failed to develop or even maximize the talents of Fiehl, Balingit, Bolado, Realubit, Rico Villanueva, Eric Reyes, etc to name a few. That aspect is not Guiao's strength. I do believe Balingit could have been a dominant player if only he was further developed. Same with Villanueva.

For me Japeth should have been more patient and developed his game first.

[dxjayrock2008]

Unleash hell Smart Gilas! Make them suffer! Put the philippines to the world basketball map!

[apiSigbinz]

Sana ipasalvage ng Tulfo brothers si kalbo

heheh when i read posts like this, i feel like i'm in pacland..... :D:D

[merps baller the return]

who would teach Japeth at Burger King. Coach Yeng was never a good mentor for bigmen. History would show he failed to develop or even maximize the talents of Fiehl, Balingit, Bolado, Realubit, Rico Villanueva, Eric Reyes, etc to name a few. That aspect is not Guiao's strength. I do believe Balingit could have been a dominant player if only he was further developed. Same with Villanueva.

For me Japeth should have been more patient and developed his game first.

sir nards, WE WANT GILAS! WE WANT GILAS! WE WANT GILAS!:D

[apiSigbinz]

okay, i think i've still watch PBA because of Smart Gilas.... if they're aint playing, i better watch Tayong Dalawa..... :D:D

[TrueBluePinoy]

I have nothing more to say. (Kasi naubos na ang lahat ng kakamura). :D:D

[merps baller the return]

okay, i think i've still watch PBA because of Smart Gilas.... if they're aint playing, i better watch Tayong Dalawa..... :D:D

im coming home this aug. 19 the first thing that i will tell my son is wag mong gayahin style ng PBA teams, gayahin mo yung syle ng smart gilas, para lalong gumaling habang bata;):D

[tiffac]

yeah i respect the players, they deserve it! even the feeling "ray allen" arwind santos deserves it;)i even respect the coaching staff especialy yeng, until he said all that bullshit against the smart gilas team;)calling sir nardy, is smart gilas ready to play this season in the PBA?:D

I know, I didn't blame Yeng for anything till today coz of that st@pid excuse, he made after the game. So sad...

[dxjayrock2008]

I rather watch anthony bordain and andrew zimmern shows if Smart Gilas will not be included to the next PBA season and use FIBA rules. PBA rules are messed-up!:D

[merps baller the return]

I know, I didn't blame Yeng for anything till today coz of that st@pid excuse, he made after the game. So sad...

yeah, really sad...now im thinking, what if chot reyes is given the second chance to handle this team, may have been a diffirent story i think:D

[dxjayrock2008]

We might be in the semis if chot was given a second chance, with coach toroman at his side for scouting reports.

[apiSigbinz]

yeah, really sad...now im thinking, what if chot reyes is given the second chance to handle this team, may have been a diffirent story i think:D


i believe so.. i've realized that we have this wrong way of doing things like changing our coach, line up etc.etc. everytime we go international.. ano tayo NBA.... :D

[merps baller the return]

We might be in the semis if chot was given a second chance, with coach toroman at his side for scouting reports.

too bad...they didnt give chot a second chance at redemption. well we still have SMART GILAS though:)

[dxjayrock2008]

Go Gilas! One big fight! I can't wait til fiba-asia 2011!

[merps baller the return]

i believe so.. i've realized that we have this wrong way of doing things like changing our coach, line up etc.etc. everytime we go international.. ano tayo NBA.... :D

:D well, just let COACH TOROMAN show us the way:)

[dxjayrock2008]

Hopefully, coach toroman will teach our pinoy coaches his tactics and strategies. Coaches like eric altamirano, allan gregorio and chot reyes must learn from him.

[timberpro]

To all Baldy fans out there....

Here's a glimpse of our very own respectable Loser Coach:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jvcxkVzoz8

This is one of many incidents that he got himself fined and suspended.

another instance was a few more years ago (Bernardino time), during a timeout, an official overheard Guiao told one of his player to trip their opponent.

[prince75]

I supported this team cause i thought they will give all their best and just hiding their aces in the early games. But after that loss to Jordan where it should have been a winnable one, i was very dissappointed. Kalbs giving more minutes to the non-performer Kerby and Jay Jay than minutes given to Jared and Gabe who were having a very good game. Jared played only a very few minutes in the second half but still came up as the second leading scorer. Then they lost to quatar by this margin? Hell, im thinking that the PBA dont want to win even the top 5 in order for them to play for the wildcard guess sonny virus instructed kalbs not to win so as not to disturb the schedule of the Money Earning PBA. I dont blame the players though, its the system and the coach! Ill be watching the PBA if only Smart Gilas will be playing!

[AlYuson]

Too bad our team phils lose by double margin again against qatar. If you will look at it, our team is better compared to africans este qataris. Although i expect qatar as the tournament's rebounding leader would outmuscle the phils off the board..the ending result for me was unexpected because honestly we can match it up against qatar...

[Butata]

"Baldy"..."Coach Kalbs"....Guys, guys, let's give our NT coach Ro-loser, errr I mean Roseller, Guiao a break!!! :D:D:D

[weward]

im coming home this aug. 19 the first thing that i will tell my son is wag mong gayahin style ng PBA teams, gayahin mo yung syle ng smart gilas, para lalong gumaling habang bata;):D

thats good sir..but the problem with it is your son cant do what gilas is doing if his teamates will do it PBA style...but hopefully your son also teach or ask his friends/teamates to watch gilas..and not pba..

[THE11thROCK™]

Qatar crushes Team Pilipinas to disappointment realm, 83-65

Qatar swatted Powerade-RP Team, 83-65, effectively killing dreams of even landing the consolation Fifth place spot here in the FIBA Asia Championships 2009, Tianjin China.

Saad Ali led the middleeast squad in the massacre of RP with 23 points, three from beyond the arc and with a superb 80 percent freethrow shooting. Kerby Raymundo finally made himself a force in the court with 12 points for RP's losing cause.

Qatar repeatedly blew apart any opposition from the Filipinos in a masterful 51-36 total rebounds with 42 from the defensive end. RP squad also gave-up a horrendous 22 total team fouls which awarded 22 out of 34 converted foul throws for Qatar.

If the piled-up losses to Iran, Jordan and Korea were all but respectable upsets, this shameful treatment from Qatar takes every inch of respect that this year's RP Team has ever accumulated. It exposed not only the weaknesses of Team Pilipinas, it also brings to question this team's willingness to give it all for flag and country in non-bearing games.

This year's RP five, assembled for the main goal of respect and redemption in Asian basketball scene, made a laughingstock of themselves by losing to the unheralded Qataris. Not only did Philippines blundered hopes for a stint to Turkey for the World Championships, it also placed itself into a do-or-die battle for the meager 7th to 8th place against the winner of the deathmatch between losers Korea and Taiwan.

Quarter scores: 23-16, 26-16, 17-8, 17-25

by Andrew Punzalan
http://philippinebasketballteam.com/2009/08/15/fiba/qatar-crushes-team-pilipinas-to-disappointment-realm-83-65/

[batgirl]

Go Gilas! One big fight! I can't wait til fiba-asia 2011!

Wow , we Filipino fans just never learned.
The sooner we wake up from this deep slumber of dreaming
that we can compete in this game, the better.
Reality is, we can never compete with taller team,
not now, not ever.
By setting our sight too high, disappointment is bound
to happen.
We then blamed the players and coaches for our fall,
but mistake and inconsistencies from coaches and players
are part of the game.
A few days ago we praised the coaches and players
as geniuses for the win.
A bad game like this one will sooner or later arrived
We should now admit that we are not that great in basketball
anymore.
let's us enjoy our 8th place finish
and consider it fitting for us
not least, not more
the sooner we admit to this, the better.

[tiffac]

22 out of 34 on the FT for Qatar... that's like the entire lead!!!