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Flexo

09-06-2009, 07:08 PM

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Arroyo is 30...he has 3-5 prime years left. So after that who takes over?
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Point Gods:

Jose Juan Barea
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Age: 25
Height: 5"11
Weight: 175
Pueblo: Mayaguez
Most exprienced and skilled PG, and is the purest PG of the group. He's 1st in line.
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Filiberto Rivera also has a lot of experience, and is the strongest defender.
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Michael Rosario
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Age:19
Height: 6"3
Weight: 190
From: New Jersey
doesn't have much experience, but did averaged 24 ppg in the U-19 tournament...league leader in points, and is the probably the most talented PR prospect out there right now. He plays like Steve Francis though, isn't a team player. Elite college PG who could be a first round pick in the future.
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Denis Clemente
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Age: 23
Height: 6"
Weight: 180
Pueblo: Bayamon
-fastest guard in the NCAA....explosive scorer...creates shots for his teammates...really tough to guard...weak body and frame, not a good defender...not a pass first player. Has a lot of confidence in his game and can probably make the NBA and become a Speedy Claxton type player with 3pt range.
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Josue Soto
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Age: 21
Height: 6"
Weight: 180
Pueblo: Arecibo
- A supersonic point guard...An extraordinary perimeter shooter, also with the peculiarity of getting good percentages by banking in straight-away three-pointers when he’s under pressure. A real leader, very emphatic, very expressive, hot-blooded, but who always listens to his coach. Lightning quick slashing, he has an extraordinary ability to drive and dish excellent passes to the big men.
Attended Arlington Day School where he averaged 17.6 points, 9.6 assists and 3.2 steals in earning first-team all-state honors after the school’s second state championship in 2006...named the 2006 Gatorade Player of the Year for the state of Florida...selected the Class 2A Player of the Year by the Dairy Farmers in 2005...named the Player of the Year in the city of Jacksonville by the Florida Times Union in 2006...ranked as the nation’s No. 35 best high school prospect by Galaxy of Prep Stars Basketball Magazine and the 11th ranked high school point guard in the class of 2006 by Hoopmasters.com...as an amateur, played internationally for both Puerto Rico and the U.S...member of the Miami Tropics AAU team...also competed as a member of Puerto Rico’s under-18 team at the FIBA under-18 Championship in 2006...helped Puerto Rico qualify for the 2007 Junior World Championships....
In 2006, Soto played for the United States in the Albert Schweitzer Tournament in Germany. Soto was the team captain - a huge honor for a kid who was not even born in the United States.

Soto came through as he was one of the top scorers in the tournament, averaging 17.4 points and 4.4 assists in five games. Among players who have previously competed in the Schweitzer Tournament are Magic Johnson, Tim Duncan and Vince Carter.

Carlos Rivera;
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Age:26
Height:6"2
Weight: 200
Pueblo: San German
Very experience...strong body for a PG...excellent defender; does a little bit of everything. Will have trouble beating the other guys for a position on the team.

Joey Rodriguez
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Age: 21
Height:5"10
Weight:170
State: Florida
; very productive NCAA PG...excellent 3pt shooter...can run an offense and plays pesky defense. Downside is his heigh(5"10)

Ayuso is 32!!!
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Shooting Gods

David Huetras
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Age: 22
Height: 6"5
Weight: 190
Pueblo: Humacao
CAREER: His 152 3-pointers are sixth-most all-time at Ole Miss and the most ever in a two-year span ... Finished 83 points shy of 1,000 for his Ole Miss career ... Owns the seventh-best free-throw percentage in school history at 80.1 (177-of-221).
Competed with the Puerto Rican national team ... Won a Gold Medal at the Centroamerican and Caribbean Games in Colombia.
Named All-SEC second team by the league coaches and Associated Press ... Received NABC All-District 21 second team distinction ... Finalist for the Cellular South Howell Trophy, which honors the best college basketball player in Mississippi ... Started in 28-of-30 games played ... Led Ole Miss and ranked fourth in the SEC with 18.1 ppg ... Also led the team in 3-pointers made (77), free-throw percentage (80.6) and minutes/game (31.7) ... His 77 treys are fifth-most in a season in school history ... Ranked among SEC leaders in FT pct. (5th), 3-pointers made (2.6/game, 4th) and 3-point FG pct. (35.5, 4th) ... Second on the team with 68 assists and 27 steals, also averaged 4.5 rebounds per outing ... In league play, ranked 9th in scoring (16.3), 7th in FT pct. (78.3) and 8th in 3-pointers/game (2.3)
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Guillermo Diaz
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Age: 23
Height: 6"2
Weight: 185
Pueblo: San Juan
* NBA Development League: 14 games, 232 points (16.6 PPG), 42 assists (3.0), 51 rebounds (3.6), 8 steals (0.6), .487 field goal percentage, .857 free-throw and .313 3-points
* NCAA: 93 games, 1477 points (15.9 PPG), 238 assists (2.6), 313 rebounds (3.4), 123 steals (1.3), .448 field goal percentage, .740 free-throw, and .380 3-point.
* ČEZ Basketball Nymburk: 15 games, 301 points (20.1 PPG), 49 assists (3.3), .620 field goal percentage, .897 free-throw and .411 3-point.

Isaac Sosa
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Age: 19
Height: 6"3
Weight: 175
Pueblo: Guaynabo
• Averaged 8.2 points in 19.7 minutes
• Shot 45.2 percent from 3-point range, making 57-of-126 attempts

Chris Baez
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Age: 21
Height: 6"5
Weight: 190
State: Florida

Javier Mojica

Carmelo Lee is in his 30's also.
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Strong Forwards

AD Vassallo
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Height: 6"6
Weight: 215
Pueblo: Toa Baja
-3pt specialist who has added slashing to game. Strong body, solid rebounder and defender. Even expanded his ability to pass. Very productive player who can hit from the clutch.
One of the top seniors in the nation ... Strong candidate for pre-season honors, both in the ACC and nationally ... World-class shooter ... Improved steadily during each season and has become the prime offensive option for the Hokies ... Rebounds his position extremely well ... Excellent outside scorer with terrific range ... Tough, confident player who knows how to compete
assallo enters the year as one of the most prolific shooters that the collegiate game has to offer. Awfully productive last season, the senior will have the opportunity to bolster his numbers even more given the graduation of Deron Washington on a very young Hokie team.

The biggest asset that Vassallo brings to the table is easily his ability to shoot the ball from beyond the three point arc. Ranking 11th in DraftExpress’ percentage of team three pointers made and 22nd in DraftExpress’ overall three pointers made, he places himself statistically amongst the top 7 or 8 players returning to the collegiate game this season in those categories. His size, ability to get his shot off quickly, and high release point make his shot extremely difficult to block for even more athletic defenders.

Improving over the last year was Vassallo’s game off of the bounce, although it is still subpar for a shooting guard prospect. He has proven capable of putting the ball on the deck one or two times and knocking down a jumper from midrange, although he rarely opts to take the ball all the way to the rim. Ball handling still remains a concern on the offensive end, especially when combined with his below average first step. On the bright side though, A.D. has shown off some nifty court vision in terms of finding the open man when he isn’t able to score himself. He turns the ball over too much considering how heavily he relies on his jump-shot, though, sporting a negative assist to turnover ratio.

The Puerto Rico native uses his height and burly build to do a decent job of rebounding the ball for a swingman, caroming boards to the tune of 4.6 per game. His size doesn’t especially help him on the defensive end though, where he struggles to guard even small forwards at the collegiate level. Vassallo’s poor lateral quickness hurts him especially when trying to contain players with strong dribble drive arsenals.
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Jonathan Rodriguez
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Age: 21
Height: 6"6
Weight: 200
Pueblo: Bayamon
averaging 22 pg over 10 rebounds, shooting 50% in the Atlantic Sun division.

Edwin Ubiles
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Age: 23
Height: 6"6
Weight: 199
State: New York
The most athletic player in the MAAC...Explosive, extremely skilled, multi-position talent... Plays above the rim...Long, lean and bouncy... Can score in a variety of ways...Creative with and without the basketball...Electrifies fans with rim-rocking dunks and lightning-quick first step...Equally effective on the perimeter and off the dribble...Showed great improvement in consistency, defense and shooting in sophomore campaign...Legitimate conference Player of the Year candidate.

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Kevin Young
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Age: 19
Height: 6"8
Weight: 195
State: California
Teyshaun Prince clone...excellent defender with a long body...has intangibles like Lee, and is very athletic.

Angel Reyes isn't old, but he is lame.
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Powerforwards

Ricky Sanchez
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Age: 22
Height: 6"11
Weight: 220
Puelbo: Guayama
* Sanchez's NBDL stats in 50 games with 21 starts are 579 points with a 11.6 PPG, 85 assists with a 1.7 APG, 177 rebounds with a 4.2 RPG, 32 steals with a 0.6 SPG, 36 blocks with a 0.7 BPG, .404 field goal percentage, .744 free throw percentage, and .366 3-point percentage.
* His CBA stats in 47 games are 374 points with an 8.0 PPG, 68 assists with a 1.4 APG, 170 rebounds with a 3.6 RPG, 28 steals with a 0.6 SPG, 34 blocks with a 0.7 BPG, .425 field goal percentage, .767 free-throw percentage, and .394 3-point percentage.

Victor Davila
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Age: 20
Height: 6"8
Weight: 245
Pueblo: Carolina
- Powerful post player with strong offensive skills and quick feet ... Proven scorer and rebounder

Angel Garcia
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Age: 21
Height: 6'11
Weight: 245
Pueblo: Toa Baja
A tall, skilled big man ... Has long arms and can stretch the defense out beyond the three-point line ... An excellent passer ... Has a great feel for the game.

Santiago is 33 years old...
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Centers
Peter John Ramos
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Age: 24
Height: 7"3
Weight: 265
Pueblo: Fajardo
- Most experienced, talented, skilled and stubborn.
Has an arsenal of offensive moves....hook shot, ability to score from the post, midrange jumper...ability to powerdunk it.
Isn't aggressive enough, though he has improved.
An off and on defender...solid rebounder...lack of wingspan makes him a poor shot blocker.

Luis Colon
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Age: 23
Height: 6"10
Weight: 260
Pueblo: Carolina
A post defender...limited offensive game. Solid rebounder/defender. Nothing special

Flexo

09-06-2009, 07:36 PM

My team would be

Backcourt
1 - Barea/Rivera/Soto
2 - Huetras/Diaz/Verdejo

Frontcourt
3- Vassallo/Rodriguez
4- Davila/Garcia
5- Ramos/Sanchez

Starters
Barea - distrubutor/penatrator
Huetras/Vassalo - perimeter scorers/3pt specialist
Davila - Banger/rebounder
Ramos - post offense

Bench
Soto - passing
Verdejo/Rivera - defense
Diaz - scoring
Rodriguez - rebounding/scoring
Garcia/Sanchez - pick and roll/pick and pop 3pt shooting

Barea - #5
Filiberto - #12
Soto - #10

Huetras - 6
Diaz - #13

Vassallo - #8
Rodriguez # 15

Davila - #7
Sanchez - # 11

Ramos - #4
Garcia - #14

IMO...you can't go wrong with this squad.

Guys who didn't make the cut but will get close in ranking order

1. Rosario
2. Clemente
3. Ubiles
4. Carlos Rivera
5. Colon
6. Young
7. Joey Rodriguez
8. Isaac Sosa

saalsapr

09-12-2009, 04:36 PM

Jose Barea is the pg of the future. No one can deny him the starting position.
The bench will forever be disputed. Jio Fontan finished second in the u19 tournament in assists so hes a possibility. Rivera is a bench guy forever.

Mike Rosario will probably take the sg position within 6 years at most.
David Huertas didnt impress me in the postseason with Quebradillas. Then again he wasnt 100%. Guillermo Diaz looks like a better addition though as long as he stays commited to his country.

Vasallo has a one way ticket to the starting sf position.
Kevin Young had a 20 point, 12 rbd game against Lithuania at the start of the tournament, but wasnt a factor in the rest of the games. He is a team player.

Reyes will be at least on the bench, but I dont mind him starting at pf. He was playing injured in the 2009 ToA, he dominated the uruguayan league and was the best rebounder of the 2007 ToA. Ricky Sanchez showed some promise in the 2009 ToA so he will be in the mix.

Ramos wont be denied of the starting c position. 4 double doubles in 10 games while averaging just 22 minutes in the tournament. Anyone can be on the bench though I dont know who. Maybe Victor Davila, who was a freshman in Vasallos senior year with Virginia Tech.

saalsapr

09-12-2009, 05:01 PM

nojodas47

09-12-2009, 09:11 PM

Looks like you guys will be fine in the future as long as all these players keep developing. A lot of young talent!

PRSURF

09-12-2009, 09:45 PM

My team will be:

PG: Jose Juan Barea/Denis Clemente

SG: Guillermo Diaz/Mike Rosario/Edwin Ubiles

SF: A.D. Vassallo/Kevin Young Morales

PF: Angel Garcia/Victor Davila

C: Peter John Ramos/Carlos Lopez/Jorge Brian Diaz

Guys that I cut are Filiberto Rivera(we hace Guillermo Diaz), Jio Fontan, Josh Nirenberg and Ricky Sanchez(Angel Garcia is better and Victor Davila is a beast in the paint)

Flexo

09-13-2009, 05:56 PM

Thats a pretty slow team you have, they can be great at continental tournaments, but completly suck at world tournaments.

Davila and Ramos are above average at speed at their positions.
Huetras and Vassallo are average, but Barea is very quick.

Its not that slow, I was looking for the most well rounded line up.

Starting Rosario at SG is like having a Marbury/Francis New York Knick backcourt, doesn't work. Rosario needs to handle the ball to be effective, Huetras doesn't. You know how much Barea handles the ball.

MrBean63

09-19-2009, 01:17 AM

PRSURF

09-19-2009, 04:40 PM

Puerto Rico is really good at International basketball, the proof is at the current ranking (10th in the world).

However, that will be as far as it will go.
It will never be at the same level of the Spain, Greece even Argentina’s of the world. Why?
Not enough size. The PR team has lots of excellent players, the problem is, that most of them aren’t taller than 6′6″.
Take Carlos Arroyo, JJ Barea, Danny Vasallo, even youngsters like Mike Rosario and Jio Fontan. On the current status, they will be competitive but have no chance to beat the world powerhouses without some infusion of great size.
I have an idea. How about to entice some american born big men, three will be ideal, maybe borderline NBA’ers and naturalize them.
Hold on, we Puerto Ricans are american citizens so these shouldn’t be that hard to do. Just change the arcaic Puerto Rico Basketball Federation bylaws, and voila PR will be a basketball powerhouse to be rekon with.
Come on guys, don’t be so harheaded and patriotic and do it. After all there are americans right now playing as naturals for Poland, Montenegro and of all the places, Russia.
It can be done and it should be done like right now. You'll thank me later.
MrBean63Bah, thats not the reason bro, the thing is that the best players of our NT are undersized, but we have a lot of tall people that play good basketball.

If we gonna naturalize someone, is for the C position, not other pos.

PG for the NT:
Carlos Arroyo 6'1
JJ Barea 5'10
Filiberto Rivera 6'3
Andres Rodriguez 5'11
Kevin Hamilton 6'5
Miguel Ali Berdiel 6'5
Jio Fontan 5'10
Christian Dalmau 6'4
Denis Clemente 6'0

Thats average size for PG's....

SG:
Guillermo Diaz 6'1
Larry Ayuso 6'2
Mike Rosario 6'3
Joel Jones 6'5
Edwin Ubiles 6'6
Jesse Pellot 6'4

Are undersiezed, but they are damn good...

SF:
A.D. Vassallo 6'6
Carmelo Lee 6'7
Kevin Young Morales 6'9
Angel Figueroa 6'4 :o
Nathan Peavy 6'9
Angel Garcia 6'11

PF:
Angelo Reyes 6'7
Ricky Sanchez 6'11
Nathan Peavy 6'9
Victor Davila 6'9
Luis Colon 6'10
Josh Nirenberg 6'9
Angel Garcia 6'11

C:
Peter John Ramos 7'3
Daniel Santiago 7'1
Luis Villafane 6'10
Jorge Brian Diaz 7'0
Carlos Lopez 6'10

Undersized players??????, please.....I think that we need is a new coach, thats it!

Flexo

09-20-2009, 02:57 PM

Imagine if Carmelo Anthony wasn't lame and would of opt out to play for Team Puerto Rico.

Our line up would like

PG - Arroyo/Barea
SG - Ayuso/Diaz/Huetras
SF - Lee/Vassallo
PF - Anthony/Reyes/Sanchez
C - Ramos/Santiago

Puerto Rico does really well for not having a top 100 world player....all their players are D to C level, with Arroyo being a B- at best.

Lets just hope a PR Jordan comes out of the Island and leads this team to international glory.

PR is only going to get better.

This is a NEW generation.
We're going to get more experience.
More experience = more chemistry
more chemistry = more winning.

saalsapr

09-20-2009, 03:10 PM

Flexo

09-21-2009, 11:47 AM

Arroyo isn't going to be an A player forever.

saalsapr

09-22-2009, 07:44 PM

Arroyo isn't going to be an A player forever.

Nope but he still is, so lets stop thinking about the future and start thinking about the present. We got the World Championships coming up and we have to do good there, Arroyo will still lead this team probably until the 2012 Olympics.

MrBean63

09-22-2009, 08:11 PM

Bah, thats not the reason bro, the thing is that the best players of our NT are undersized, but we have a lot of tall people that play good basketball.

If we gonna naturalize someone, is for the C position, not other pos.

PG for the NT:
Carlos Arroyo 6'1
JJ Barea 5'10
Filiberto Rivera 6'3
Andres Rodriguez 5'11
Kevin Hamilton 6'5
Miguel Ali Berdiel 6'5
Jio Fontan 5'10
Christian Dalmau 6'4
Denis Clemente 6'0

Thats average size for PG's....

SG:
Guillermo Diaz 6'1
Larry Ayuso 6'2
Mike Rosario 6'3
Joel Jones 6'5
Edwin Ubiles 6'6
Jesse Pellot 6'4

Are undersiezed, but they are damn good...

SF:
A.D. Vassallo 6'6
Carmelo Lee 6'7
Kevin Young Morales 6'9
Angel Figueroa 6'4 :o
Nathan Peavy 6'9
Angel Garcia 6'11

PF:
Angelo Reyes 6'7
Ricky Sanchez 6'11
Nathan Peavy 6'9
Victor Davila 6'9
Luis Colon 6'10
Josh Nirenberg 6'9
Angel Garcia 6'11

C:
Peter John Ramos 7'3
Daniel Santiago 7'1
Luis Villafane 6'10
Jorge Brian Diaz 7'0
Carlos Lopez 6'10

Undersized players??????, please.....I think that we need is a new coach, thats it!

PRSURF - Read my post again, I was talking about BIG MEN - Centers and PF.
PR was outrebounded and outplayed by Brasil and Argentina BIG MEN.
IMHO I believe that PR NT is set at PG and SG. SF might get better, if Ricky Sanchez fulfill his promise (He needs to go to Chicago and work out with Tim Grover) to get stronger and quicker.

At the moment PR NT has very average starting center and power forward, if they get better on those two positions, look out.

MrBean63

09-22-2009, 08:39 PM

I agree, with PRSURF, thats a PNP mentality to think we should nationalize someone to be better, especially for a country that has been playing this international sport for 52 years.

We have to be more consistent. Manolo is supposed to fix this.

There are times where we score 8 points in two minutes, and there are times where we spend 4 minutes without scoring.

Our NT sucked in the first half all Fiba Americas tournament, but played great in the second half. If we would have been playing as consistent in the first half as we did in the second half, we would have won gold and easy.

Flexo:

To me Arroyo is an A player at the international game. His best tournaments by far are the 2004 Olympics, the 2006 Fiba World Championship and the 2009 Fiba Americas.

What we need in your logic is an S ranking guy, someone who can triple double his way to victory and make 60% or better game winning shots.

PNP mentality? Now you are mixing politics with sports.
That's exactly what I was referring to, the patriotic mentality. This has nothing to do with patriotism, which Puerto Ricans have in bunches. This is about wanting to win. Is PR any better than Russia, Montenegro or Poland?, those are real countries not colonies of another country.
There is no way PR will be a basketball powerhouse or win anything of substance (Yes, I'm not talking Centroamericanos or even Pan Am when US team is not particpating) but FIBA World Champion or Olympic champion or at the very least compete hard and having a fighting chance for a medal.

cardenales

09-22-2009, 08:57 PM

Mr. Bean I dont agree with you. I believe that Puerto Rico can have the talent to become a world power house. We have done it twice (4th Tokyo 64 & 4th Argentina 1990) so we can do it again. Its true that we have a problem with height because of genes but still we have tall people and tall skill people that can play the game. Enough to have a very good team. Just that the leaders dont know what to do with them.

cardenales

09-22-2009, 09:00 PM

And yes, you have a PNP mentality

PRSURF

09-23-2009, 12:03 AM

PRSURF - Read my post again, I was talking about BIG MEN - Centers and PF.
PR was outrebounded and outplayed by Brasil and Argentina BIG MEN.
IMHO I believe that PR NT is set at PG and SG. SF might get better, if Ricky Sanchez fulfill his promise (He needs to go to Chicago and work out with Tim Grover) to get stronger and quicker.

At the moment PR NT has very average starting center and power forward, if they get better on those two positions, look out.
You know what is baseline????, we dont have plays to our big mens, we dont play too much with the big mens, and you know it, we have big talented players, thats not patriotic sentence, this is the reality, we dont have a good DIRIGENTE!

MrBean63

09-23-2009, 03:59 AM

And yes, you have a PNP mentality

Funny, Do you really know what a PNP mentality would be? That I wanted Puerto Ricans trying out for USA National Teams. What I'm proposing is the complete opposite, dufus.
Its a shame that all this talent is wasted because PR has no size to bang with the big boys.

Piratas > Cardenales

Flexo

09-23-2009, 04:36 AM

Nope but he still is, so lets stop thinking about the future and start thinking about the present. We got the World Championships coming up and we have to do good there, Arroyo will still lead this team probably until the 2012 Olympics.

Not focus on the future?
Thats retarded.
Arroyo is excellent, but he has his limitations, we won't ever be a world power led by Arroyo...we need to develop our prospects instead of pray that Arroyo would do magic with the ball all the time.

its time to be realistic here.

Only way we get better is if we give the youth experience.
Experience = development.

saalsapr

09-28-2009, 02:28 PM

Not focus on the future?
Thats retarded.
Arroyo is excellent, but he has his limitations, we won't ever be a world power led by Arroyo...we need to develop our prospects instead of pray that Arroyo would do magic with the ball all the time.

its time to be realistic here.

Only way we get better is if we give the youth experience.
Experience = development.

You sir........

...are right.

saalsapr

09-28-2009, 02:35 PM

PNP mentality? Now you are mixing politics with sports.
That's exactly what I was referring to, the patriotic mentality. This has nothing to do with patriotism, which Puerto Ricans have in bunches. This is about wanting to win. Is PR any better than Russia, Montenegro or Poland?, those are real countries not colonies of another country.
There is no way PR will be a basketball powerhouse or win anything of substance (Yes, I'm not talking Centroamericanos or even Pan Am when US team is not particpating) but FIBA World Champion or Olympic champion or at the very least compete hard and having a fighting chance for a medal.

Oh yeah lets bring a foreigner to do our things for us so we can get our tummy filled with beer, so then when we get fired from our current jobs, the job we could have had is now filled by a venezuelan.

Next thing you know we are in the street blaming the governator(yes, its the terminator) we(you actually) voted for and threatening to stop working.

Basketball players get paid too you know....

We have the talent, and I think its pretty dumb to think about getting an european coach when two other countries have rican coaches.

saalsapr

09-28-2009, 02:37 PM

And yes, you have a PNP mentality

Nuff said

saalsapr

09-28-2009, 02:42 PM

Funny, Do you really know what a PNP mentality would be? That I wanted Puerto Ricans trying out for USA National Teams. What I'm proposing is the complete opposite, dufus.
Its a shame that all this talent is wasted because PR has no size to bang with the big boys.

Piratas > Cardenales

"I have an idea. How about to entice some american born big men, three will be ideal, maybe borderline NBA’ers and naturalize them."

Ok, now explain to me how this paragraph here is the opposite of bringing in foreigners...

zyx96

10-04-2009, 10:43 PM

I would prefer just to try to develop the big guys we have. Guys like Piwi, Lopez, Davila, JB Diaz, Nirenberg, Morales ect... are young and have lots of potential. Of course some have more than others.

We will always have a good team but I just dont really ever see us as a world power like USA, Spain or Argentina.

Some of the young guys who I feel deserve a shot on the national team for 2010 are: Piwi, Davila, Lopez, Young, JB Diaz, Ubiles, Rosario and Clemente.

eddiegonzalezpr

10-17-2009, 07:17 PM

Thats a pretty slow team you have, they can be great at continental tournaments, but completly suck at world tournaments.

Strange how Javi Gonzalez a starting point guard for NC State who was Player of the Game against #1 ranked North Carolina (18 points) and #3 Duke
(19 points) is not even mentioned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neorican baller

10-17-2009, 07:29 PM

Thats a pretty slow team you have, they can be great at continental tournaments, but completly suck at world tournaments.

Where is NC State point guard Javi Gonzalez? He only won Player of the Game against both North Carolina and Duke as a two year starter who is only entering his Jr. year. He was a big time high school and college player who is getting better every game. He will have a much better year this year after having to look over his shoulders to see what play Sidney Lowe wanted called. This year he will be totally in charge.

PRSURF

10-19-2009, 01:38 AM

Here is DeJuan Marrero, 6'5, class of 2012:

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College choices:

Indiana
Perdue
Illinois
Ohio State

saalsapr

12-11-2009, 07:35 PM

Where is NC State point guard Javi Gonzalez? He only won Player of the Game against both North Carolina and Duke as a two year starter who is only entering his Jr. year. He was a big time high school and college player who is getting better every game. He will have a much better year this year after having to look over his shoulders to see what play Sidney Lowe wanted called. This year he will be totally in charge.

He is good, already #4 in the NCAA with 6.6 assists, but he is 5'11. We already have an NBA midget in Barea, who just happens to be a better shooter.

So far though, our NCAA all rican starting 5 looks like this:

Javier Gonzalez PG
Mike Rosario SG
Kevin Young SF
Victor Davila PF
Jorge Diaz C

PRSURF

12-12-2009, 03:37 AM

He is good, already #4 in the NCAA with 6.6 assists, but he is 5'11. We already have an NBA midget in Barea, who just happens to be a better shooter.

So far though, our NCAA all rican starting 5 looks like this:

Javier Gonzalez PG
Mike Rosario SG
Kevin Young SF
Victor Davila PF
Jorge Diaz CAnd the bench:
Denis Clemente PG
Jio Fontan PG
Jonathan Rodriguez SG-SF
Edwin Ubiles SG-SF
Chris Gaston SF-PF
Angel Garcia PF(Injury, but i think he is the best player from PR in the NCAA)
Josh Nirenberg C

saalsapr

12-13-2009, 01:25 PM

And the bench:
Denis Clemente PG
Jio Fontan PG
Jonathan Rodriguez SG-SF
Edwin Ubiles SG-SF
Chris Gaston SF-PF
Angel Garcia PF(Injury, but i think he is the best player from PR in the NCAA)
Josh Nirenberg C

Piwi has yet to prove himself, so no use putting him here. Clemente is doing great, the only reason I didnt put him over Gonzalez is because of his low assists, though he had 9 assists yesterday. Fontan is struggling,, Rodriguez is great, but his role on his team has been that of a forward. If he plays with the NT he will have to be a SG you know why, he is doing better than Rosario though. Ubiles is good but misses a lot of shots, Gaston has been outstanding, but isnt he the grandson of ricans, dont like grandsons on my team. Nirenberg has been good in limited minutes.

PRSURF

12-13-2009, 07:15 PM

Piwi has yet to prove himself, so no use putting him here. Clemente is doing great, the only reason I didnt put him over Gonzalez is because of his low assists, though he had 9 assists yesterday. Fontan is struggling,, Rodriguez is great, but his role on his team has been that of a forward. If he plays with the NT he will have to be a SG you know why, he is doing better than Rosario though. Ubiles is good but misses a lot of shots, Gaston has been outstanding, but isnt he the grandson of ricans, dont like grandsons on my team. Nirenberg has been good in limited minutes.Oh well, is the bench, thats why I put other ricans players.

saalsapr

01-12-2010, 01:28 AM

New NCAA update!

Starting five (all rican)

PG Dennis Clemente
SG Jonathan Rodriguez
SF Edwin Ubiles
PF Victor Davila
C Jorge Bryan Diaz

saalsapr

01-18-2010, 03:25 PM

I would love to see this starting five

Michael Rosario
Jonathan Rodriguez
Edwin Ubiles
Angel Garcia
Peter John Ramos

LOLZ we could look like the croatian team. haha If only Rosario could pass the ball more often...

PRSURF

01-19-2010, 04:46 AM

New NCAA update!

Starting five (all rican)

PG Dennis Clemente
SG Jonathan Rodriguez
SF Edwin Ubiles
PF Victor Davila
C Jorge Bryan Diaz
Chris Gaston is playing better than Ubiles a Kevin Young. The stats of this guy are great(17.8 ppg/10.8 rpg/1.7 blpg), his last game he made 29 pts and 16 rebounds!!!!!:rolleyes:

saalsapr

01-21-2010, 04:59 PM

Chris Gaston is playing better than Ubiles a Kevin Young. The stats of this guy are great(17.8 ppg/10.8 rpg/1.7 blpg), his last game he made 29 pts and 16 rebounds!!!!!:rolleyes:

Yeah I know about him, but what I dont know is if he is even eligible to play for Puerto Rico.

I dont want another Carmelo Anthony/Jake Peavy case on our hands.

PRSURF

01-22-2010, 01:33 AM

Yeah I know about him, but what I dont know is if he is even eligible to play for Puerto Rico.

I dont want another Carmelo Anthony/Jake Peavy case on our hands.You can find him by Facebook!

rikhardur

02-18-2010, 01:48 PM

PUR/USA – Wolfpack’s Gonzalez dreams of wearing Puerto Rico jersey

RALEIGH (2010 FIBA World Championship) - It’s been more than five years since the game was played, but the legend of Puerto Rico’s famous upset of the United States on opening day at the 2004 Olympics lives on.

Just as the American Dream Team in 1992 inspired boys and girls around the world to reach for the stars in basketball, Puerto Rico’s 92-73 victory over Larry Brown’s Team USA has had a lasting impact on the tiny island in the Caribbean.

Javier Gonzalez, a junior point guard in the Atlantic Coast Conference at North Carolina State, hails from Puerto Rico and he’ll never forget that Olympic clash.

"I remember watching that game, sitting at home,” he said to FIBA.com.

“I watched the game the whole time. It was crazy.

“Even if I wasn't out there, I felt like part of the team. It was a great thing for Puerto Rico and basketball in Puerto Rico.”

Winning that game was almost as sweet as winning a title because both teams are in the FIBA Americas and Puerto Rico had always been lost in the giant shadow of American hoops.

“It showed that we have some talent and we go out to play basketball,” Gonzalez said.

"It was huge. A lot of people didn't know about Puerto Rico until then.”

Gonzalez could, one day, represent his country in international competition.

It will be extremely difficult to break into the current squad, though, because the Puerto Rico backcourt is loaded with players like Carlos Arroyo, JJ Barea and Larry Ayuso.

It’s not unusual to see three-guard line-ups on the court for Puerto Rico.

Their games are always exciting to watch.

"We don't have a lot of tall players in Puerto Rico and that's why we produce a lot of good guards,” Gonzalez said.

"That's why most of the teams in Puerto Rico are guard-oriented.

"We have a lot of freedom, they like to play up and down the court.”

In crunch time, the Puerto Rican coaches always put the ball in the hands of the playmakers like Arroyo.

“Coaches in Puerto Rico put a lot of pressure on guards to make plays for our team,” Gonzalez said, “to score or make plays for teammates.”

Born to play hoops

There was never much doubt that Gonzalez was going to play basketball.

He did experiment with the sweet science as a boy but that was short-lived.

"It wasn't really that serious, but I used to work out with my stepdad,” Gonzalez said. “My stepdad was a boxer when he was younger and I liked the sport.

"I started training but my mom found out, so ..."

So the boxing stopped.

Gonzalez says he also played baseball for a few years but eventually began to focus on basketball.

He left the island to play high school ball and competed for a couple of years at St Patrick’s in New Jersey before moving to the warmer climes of Miami and enrolling at Michael M. Krop High School.

In Florida, he excelled and was named as the Miami Herald’s Player of the Year.

College basketball in America is huge, but Gonzalez admits he didn’t pay too much attention to it until his last year of high school.

"I didn't watch college basketball until probably the start of my senior year when I figured I was going to be playing college basketball,” he said.

“That's when I started really watching.

"Before then, I didn't watch and I didn't know anything about it.”

One university that was interested in having Gonzalez was North Carolina State, a team with a rich history in the game.

Two teams in the past 30 years stand out for the Wolfpack, one led by David Thompson in 1972-73 that went undefeated but couldn’t play in the NCAA Tournament as is it was probation.

The following season, the same star players ended UCLA’s string of seven consecutive NCAA titles by edging the Bruins in double overtime to advance to the Final where they beat Marquette.

Nine years later and Jim Valvano’s ‘Cardiac Pack’ went on an incredible run to win the national title, shocking a Houston team that had Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler in the title game.

The point guard on the ’83 State team, Sidney Lowe, is now the coach of NC State while the point guard on the ’74 team, Monte Towe, is an assistant coach at State.

“I didn't know anything about NC State," Gonzalez admits.

"I've heard about them (the players) and met them since coming here. We've got a couple of legends who work here in Coach Lowe and Monte Towe.

"They both won national championships. Now that I've been here, I pretty much know everything about the history.

"Towe's team didn't lose a game for two years."

Something that convinced Gonzalez that State was the perfect fit for him was the atmosphere at games.

"It's great,” he said.

“It's what every player dreams about. Ever since I was little, I wanted to play in front of a lot of people and face good competition, so, when I came up here and saw how the fans and the crowd were so into the game, that was one of the major reasons why I decided to come to State and to the ACC."

It’s extremely loud at games.

"It helps me raise my level,” Gonzalez said.

“I feed off the crowd. Even if it's an away game, it makes me and my teammates feel like it’s us against the world. It means we play harder, smarter and raises the level of play.”

Playing for Puerto Rico

Puerto Rico will this summer play Preliminary Round games in Ankara against Turkey, Greece, China, Ivory Coast and Russia.

“That's one of my dreams,” Gonzalez said, “to play for the national team, especially when I see Carlos Arroyo.

“I have known Carlos since I was about eight. He used to play for my dad's (Eddie Gonzalez) team (Santurce Cangrejeros) in Puerto Rico.”

Eddie Gonzalez is the general manager of Santurce.

"Carlos was my role model, and I wanted to play like him and be like him since he made it to the NBA and has done so many good things for Puerto Rico.

“It would be great to play alongside him in the national team.

"I've met Piculín Ortiz, too, and (Larry) Ayuso. He plays there, now. I go down there and shoot with him. I'm pretty close to the national team and follow them."

Ortiz, Ayuso and Arroyo were all on the 2004 Olympic team.

Gonzalez knows the competition is fierce to make it into the national side.

"It could happen,” he said.

“I don't really know. If it happens, I'd be welcome to go to the practices and work out. You never know what's going to happen.”

What he is certain of is that he wants to be involved in the game for a long time.

“Hopefully, I will get to play professionally and represent my country,” he said.

“If not, I'd look forward to working with kids.

“Hopefully, if I do or don't make it in the pros, I eventually want to be a coach.”
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/inte/p/newsid/38528/arti.html

PRSURF

02-20-2010, 10:41 PM

Wow, today Chris Gaston go with 32 pts, 10 rb, 2 stl....19 double-double in his freshman year!

John Holland 43 pts, 6 reb, 3 stl!!!!

:eek::eek::eek::cool::cool:

cardenales

02-20-2010, 11:01 PM

I dont agree with Mr. Bean 63 writing down that Puerto Rico cannot compete for medal in Olympics and World Cups. Puerto Rico can win gold medal y Olympics and World Cups. The talent that is comming up its great and we should be able to compete for medal. Why boricuas always thinks they are less than other people?

MrBean63

03-16-2010, 05:24 PM

Cardenales:

I don't think than I'm less than anybody! If at all equal, but not less.
I was just stating a reality, Puerto Ricans, we are height challenge, that is the thruth! For every 7' Puerto Rican there are 50 americans, Serbians, Chinese, heck even Spaniards seven footers. It's a matter of numbers, 3.5 million vs 300 million, or even 1.5 billion. For its size Puerto Rico does very well and I'm proud of that.

We are very skillfull, we love basketball and maybe in 40 or 50 years, the combination of genes will get taller and skilled basketball Puerto Ricans players. I'm hopeful to see it in my lifetime.

For your information, Puerto Rico will never win a gold medal under the current rules. Ah, but if they play a World Tournament or Olympic for 6'6" and under teams, then we will win it all. ha.ha, ha.

saalsapr

03-29-2010, 01:21 AM

The NCAA basketball oficially ended for puerto ricans with Kansas State's elimination yesterday.

In China Peter John is becoming unstoppable. He had 33 points on 13-17 and 7-9 ft with 21 boards as Zheijang JL swept Jiangsu in the quarterfinals. And best thing of all he did it against one of the best defensive imports in the tournament.

He has even been stealing minutes from Rodney White.

He averages 17.5 points 13.3 rebounds 1.5 assists and 1.1 blocks in 30 minutes per game.

sinobball

03-30-2010, 01:16 AM

In China Peter John is becoming unstoppable. He had 33 points on 13-17 and 7-9 ft with 21 boards as Zheijang JL swept Jiangsu in the quarterfinals. And best thing of all he did it against one of the best defensive imports in the tournament.Who's that? Injured Donnell Harvey who played like crap? He wasn't guarding PJ when both were on the floor anyway. PJ was against Tang, who is big and 7'0'' but has not hops.

I watched the game, PJ did great, a lot of offensively rebounds translated to easy baskets. But like I explained before, his post game is almost without a doubt only on the left side of the basket, and he always shoots/hooks with his right hand.