Lebanon national team 2010

[rikhardur]

LIB – Lebanon goes to Turkey with one eye on London 2012

BEIRUT (2010 FIBA World Championship) – Nowhere in Asia is there a bigger appetite for basketball than Lebanon.

For that reason, there was unbridled enthusiasm and a huge sense of relief in the country after the news broke on December 12 that the national team had received a wild card to play at the 2010 FIBA World Championship in Turkey.

FIBA Secretary General Patrick Baumann made the recommendations that Lebanon, Lithuania, Russia and Germany receive the wild cards and the FIBA Central Board unanimously approved them.

A winning tradition, participation in the last two FIBA World Championships and a passionate fan base were all contributing factors in the wild-card decision.

“I think the last 25 or 30 years in which we achieved results, both clubs and national teams, it's made basketball popular for the Lebanese people,” Lebanese Basketball Federation president Pierre Kakhia said to FIBA.Com.

“If there is ever basketball in the news, it gets the maximum readers.

“We have even more supporters outside of Lebanon, all over the world, in the Gulf, in the United States, in Argentina and Brazil. We have a lot of fans and all Lebanese are proud we have a good national team.”

The wild-card announcement came four months after Lebanon’s painful 72-68 defeat to hosts China in the Semi-Finals of the 2009 FIBA Asia Championship.

Dragan Raca’s team still had a chance to qualify by winning the bronze-medal game but fell to Jordan, 80-66.

Kakhia said of the fans: “Everyone loves us, feels sorry for us, and no one blames anyone (about not qualifying directly).”

The federation president says he expects 2,000 to 4,000 fans to follow the national team next year in Turkey.

So what are Lebanon’s chances of winning some games next year?

The draw was held on December 15 – three days after the wild-card announcement – and Lebanon ended up in Group D against France, Spain, Lithuania, New Zealand and Canada.

“We played against France at the last World Championship and won,” Kakhia remembered fondly.

“It's one of the good results of the national team. We hope we can achieve some good results, particularly with Canada and New Zealand as we feel they are close to our level and we hope to play a good match against the champions Spain as well.”

Kakhia has revealed that he expects to have a new man in charge of the national team in early January.

“There will be a new coach from the United States,” he said.

“We are in the middle of the negotiations.”

While grateful for the opportunity to play in Turkey, Kakhia says he and Lebanon are thinking about another big tournament as well.

“Our target is not the World Cup (Championship),” he said. “It’s important, but our target is to qualify for the Olympics in London. So we will have a coaching program to take us to the World Championship and to have a team at the Olympics in London, 2012.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/37968/arti.html

[daniab]

Thanks Rik!

i have a feeling that the new coach is Jim Harrick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Harrick) (American-Lebanese coach)

[Laziz]

I think getting Jim Harrick is a mistake. It would just be a publicity stunt, the man might have huge experience in college basketball, being an excellent coach at the NCAA level, winning the championship in 1995, but he never coached a Professional club (except 1 year in the D-League), neither a national team.
I don't think he would be a great choice.

[Lebanon]

I think getting Jim Harrick is a mistake. It would just be a publicity stunt, the man might have huge experience in college basketball, being an excellent coach at the NCAA level, winning the championship in 1995, but he never coached a Professional club (except 1 year in the D-League), neither a national team.
I don't think he would be a great choice.

What about the american NT's coach?

[Czarkazem13]

What about the american NT's coach?

He has American players. :p

[khaledlebanon]

Thanks Rik!

i have a feeling that the new coach is Jim Harrick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Harrick) (American-Lebanese coach)

Dani is he a good coach ????

[tonysaade]

Dani is he a good coach ????

check his resume man ..... of course he is , he already won an NCAA championship

[spider]

there was a meeting today to discuss the NTs in the FLB. I hope to have some news about that...

about Harrick, I will try to avoid getting him to the NT if I was in the FLB.

[bblover]

spider why is it because his age or his behavior problem in colleges but as a coach he has a great career

[kerdito]

The guy has a superb CV, despite his acts, but I think such an experienced coach might be able to overcome all the childish acts some of our players always show. I just hope he gets into work asap. By the way his salary seem to be good as a coach for 3 years with such a CV :P

[khaledlebanon]

The guy has a superb CV, despite his acts, but I think such an experienced coach might be able to overcome all the childish acts some of our players always show. I just hope he gets into work asap. By the way his salary seem to be good as a coach for 3 years with such a CV :P

i hope so, nshalla he will lead us to qualify to the 2nd round in the world cup and qualify for the first time to the olympic games in london :D:D

[Laziz]

I was trying to be positive, after we got the wild card, but sadly I am reminded of our sad reality.
Like I said before, getting a coach like Jim Harrick is a media stunt by the federation; "we got a great Lebanese coach from outside bla bla bla..."

Why one earth would we appoint someone who has 0 experience coaching a national team, 1 year of experience coaching a pro team and a failed one, held a 2-14 record with the Jams in the Dleague, and some serious ethical issue (he is now banned from coaching in the NCAA).

It's just my point of view, Mr. Harrick is (was?) without any doubt a great coach, but I don't think he is the man of the situation.

Good luck to him anyway.

[Khalid80]

I think bringing in such a coach would be a great asset for our NT due to his long NCAA coaching experience.
My only main concerns r that he is 71 years old, his wife just recently (1 month ago) passed away, and he hasn't been coaching on a high level since 2003.

About his controversies, I don't think it's such a big deal. At the end of the days it's not like all of our previous coaches have been "angels" and haven't had issues :cool:

Anyway, let's see what happens.

[Lebanon]

He has American players. :p

Obviously I wasnt talking about the level difference between both teams!

I was just pointing to the fact that while the dresam team was declining and losing championships against european teams, the americans took the risk and appointed a coach who wwas a NCAA veteran but without experience in coaching pro teams.

[daniab]

I was right its Jim Harrick!

I don't think its a bad idea,coaching in the NCAA demade a good knowledge and he won the NCAA Championship!

Lets see!

[LordOfLeyte]

I remember reading about him on the NCAA's write-ups where his Georgian players calling him "Old Blood & Guts" due to his fiery demeanor; and in referential comparison to George S. Patton.

That aside, is he in Lebanon now?

[spider]

according to aliwaa newspaper the flb will contract next month with a coach who was with the strongest teams in the european continent, so i dont think its jim harrick, but elias zouros.

[bblover]

guys herrick is great coach coaching ucla if he didnt have some problem he would have never left there he didnt coach pro but ncaa is better than many leagues in europe and many ncaa coaches get offers from nba teams spider abour aliwaa i dont if they are right the flbb might contact him but his team in greece is 3rd so he will probably goi far in league and playing europe cup so he cant come before late may or june

[Lebanon]

according to aliwaa newspaper the flb will contract next month with a coach who was with the strongest teams in the european continent, so i dont think its jim harrick, but elias zouros.

link please?

and who do you believe? kakhia or aliwaa?

[Laziz]

Kakhia didn't say that we signed Harrick.
And Zouros isn't the coach of one of the strongest team in europe, he coach Panellinios a mid level Greek club

[khaledlebanon]

Panellinios is ranked 3rd after 8 games in greek league, after olympiacos and panathanicos !!!!!!! so he is doning very good!!!!!!!!!

[leb-basket]

Panellinios is ranked 3rd after 8 games in greek league, after olympiacos and panathanicos !!!!!!! so he is doning very good!!!!!!!!!

Elias Zouros was one of the best coaches who came to lebanon!
If he our federation could sign a contract with him! It is going to be a big step towards the second round in the WC!

[spider]

I think the rumours from aliwaa are fitting with elias zouros profile


I worked as a head coach in second Division in Greece for two years and later as an assistant coach in many A1 teams.
I started in Peristeri as an Assistant Coach for Nikos Foskolos with the player Audy Norris in the team in addition of some known players.
Then after I was for two years in Sporting Club, an A1 Division team, then I went to Maroussi, which is also a first Division team.
I worked for about two years with the National Team as assistant coach, then as an Assistant Coach in Olympiakos, and approximately two years as a Head Coach for Olympiakos.

[daniab]

Elias Zouros is the perfect choice for our men NT and Pat Schoemers for the youth team!

[marko]

Elias Zouros is the perfect choice for our men NT and Pat Schoemers for the youth team!

exactly

[rtk04]

Elias Zouros is the perfect choice for our men NT and Pat Schoemers for the youth team!

hey man...dont get me wrong but please can u explain this to me...
i know that many lebanese fans are asking for elias zouros....but i think he didnt manage to win with sagesse a single title...dont know if i'm mistaken...
but if it was the case then why is he the best????

[daniab]

hey man...dont get me wrong but please can u explain this to me...
i know that many lebanese fans are asking for elias zouros....but i think he didnt manage to win with sagesse a single title...dont know if i'm mistaken...
but if it was the case then why is he the best????

hen ? he won with Sagesse the Asian champions cup in Shargah (UAE) and the Lebanese league as well!

[Laziz]

About Zouros, I am not saying that he is not good, in fact he is excellent, but Panellinios, is not a top european team, that's all I said.

As for him winning titles, it's not really him who won the Lebanese League back in 2004 :rolleyes: , and you know what I am talking about.

[daniab]

About Zouros, I am not saying that he is not good, in fact he is excellent, but Panellinios, is not a top european team, that's all I said.

As for him winning titles, it's not really him who won the Lebanese League back in 2004 :rolleyes: , and you know what I am talking about.

yeh i know but still Champville back then was a great team composed of the best foreign players in the regions (Joe Vogel-Scotty Thurman-Tony Madison and Ismael Ahmad).. and the result was 2-2 :D

the best finals ever! :(

[Laziz]

It was Champville against Sagesse + Zouros + Federation + Choueiri + Referees + LBC ...

[lebanese NT]

yeh i know but still Champville back then was a great team composed of the best foreign players in the regions (Joe Vogel-Scotty Thurman-Tony Madison and Ismael Ahmad).. and the result was 2-2 :D

the best finals ever! :(

actually it was a 1-1 when in the third game, in the third overtime the referee accepted balaa shot while he shot it after the buzzer. sagesse won the game and in the next game champville withdrew and sagesse won the final 3-1.

[daniab]

actually it was a 1-1 when in the third game, in the third overtime the referee accepted balaa shot while he shot it after the buzzer. sagesse won the game and in the next game champville withdrew and sagesse won the final 3-1.

chaklak betdayi3 ktir lol

it was Charles Bardawil's basket that caused all the mess and then the withdrawal and the result was 2-2 after this win, don't get in such dicussion with me :p

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Edit:both of us mendayi3 hehe it was 3-1 bas Charles Bardawil not Balaa :p

[Laziz]

It was 1.7 second after the shot clock, and it was Charles Bardawil. LBC didn't put 1 single replay of the action :D
And yes it was tied in the serie 1-1

Ok let's get back to the NT

[leb-basket]

It was 1.7 second after the shot clock, and it was Charles Bardawil. LBC didn't put 1 single replay of the action :D
And yes it was tied in the serie 1-1

Ok let's get back to the NT

this was the last day of the golden days :(

[Lebanon]

There is a problem with Zouros that you aren't taking in consideration:

He is very tough headed. During his days with Sagesse, he had alot of problems with the players and some people in the management were always working on cooling it dow between them.

So we have to be careful about it! I don't think Fouad Nehmeh can do this job if problems occur, he barely knows what is his job anyway.:)

[Lebanon]

Several criterias must be taken in consideration when chosing a coach:
1- His CV and experience
2- His character and mentality and how the Lebanese players will adapt to it
3- The style of basketball he likes
4- What he knows about Lebanese basketball
5- His salary
6- His availability

The top choice according to these criterias is Mindaugas Lukosius. The only problem is in point 6. (I dont know if he is available). Vujanic fits too but Mindaugas may be more experienced on the european and international level.

Jim Harrik's problems is mainly in point 4 and we kknow nothing about point 2. He is also expensive.

Zouros's problem is in point 2. 4 may also be a problem as alot of things changed between 2004 and 2009. He is also expensive.

[c_d]

Hi guys! I've read posts in some threads that one of Lebanon's problems is producing big men. IMHO, Rony Seikaly should be considered as a skills coach whether it's for your senior or junior NT. He's an NBA veteran after all.

[HChami]

Is it true that Aaron McCarthy is the new coach for the Lebanese national team?

"The Lebanese basketball federation announced that they agreed terms with Aaron McCarthy from USA to be the coach of the Lebanese Men National Team for the upcoming period... McCarthy's successful career in Europe encouraged the members of the federation as he was named as best coach in Finland 3 consecutive seasons before heading to Germany for another success..The american coach's main mission is to make it to World Cup 2010 in turkey."

Link:
http://lebanesebasketball.weebly.com/

[Laziz]

You can't teach height :)
As for Rony Seikaly, he is busy Mixing in Miami's biggest night club, no time for training our big guys.

[Laziz]

Is it true that Aaron McCarthy is the new coach for the Lebanese national team?

"The Lebanese basketball federation announced that they agreed terms with Aaron McCarthy from USA to be the coach of the Lebanese Men National Team for the upcoming period... McCarthy's successful career in Europe encouraged the members of the federation as he was named as best coach in Finland 3 consecutive seasons before heading to Germany for another success..The american coach's main mission is to make it to World Cup 2010 in turkey."

Link:
http://lebanesebasketball.weebly.com/


It's very old news, Aaron McCarthy was supposed to take over the National Team last year, before Asia Basket 2009, but it went wrong and he never did.

[lebanese NT]

chaklak betdayi3 ktir lol

it was Charles Bardawil's basket that caused all the mess and then the withdrawal and the result was 2-2 after this win, don't get in such dicussion with me :p

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Edit:both of us mendayi3 hehe it was 3-1 bas Charles Bardawil not Balaa :p

man i know ur way more into basket then me bass i remember this event very well i was shocked eno someone like balaa who used to miss an easy basket make a shot like that from the wing !. if ur sure its charles bardawil i cant argue with u about it. bass u really did confuse me. i remember it was 1-1 it made the score 2-1 then champville withdrew and sagesse won 3-1.

[spider]

Several criterias must be taken in consideration when chosing a coach:
1- His CV and experience
2- His character and mentality and how the Lebanese players will adapt to it
3- The style of basketball he likes
4- What he knows about Lebanese basketball
5- His salary
6- His availability

The top choice according to these criterias is Mindaugas Lukosius. The only problem is in point 6. (I dont know if he is available). Vujanic fits too but Mindaugas may be more experienced on the european and international level.

Jim Harrik's problems is mainly in point 4 and we kknow nothing about point 2. He is also expensive.

Zouros's problem is in point 2. 4 may also be a problem as alot of things changed between 2004 and 2009. He is also expensive.

I think the point 2 with zouros shouldn't be a problem, the players shouldn't be pampered. either they toughen up or quit the NT, it's no time for guys like omar elturk to ask for tony parker autograph anymore or take pictures....in fact i think zouros will kick his ass out of the NT if he came.zouros once suspended brian beshara for a week and sat him in the stands...i hope he kicks him out too. i remember that, he also kicked cedric henderson out of sagesse for disciplinary reasons... he also had close trainings i remember, and yelled at camera men when filming his timeouts... sagesse held things privately back then...so with zouros in charge no more facebook crap by elkhatib....or other players acting like shits.
as for point 4, I think it's irrelevant. money also is irrelevant... but his availability with his club and how to have two teams is another issue, but it's same with mindaugas. i think those 2 are the most pro coaches, but with zouros being a hard dictator makes me prefer him more. he onced said he needed another year with sagesse to have an offense system for them..that's why i think by 2011 he will be able to make a fundemantally sound team.

[khaledlebanon]

I think the point 2 with zouros shouldn't be a problem, the players shouldn't be pampered. either they toughen up or quit the NT, it's no time for guys like omar elturk to ask for tony parker autograph anymore or take pictures....in fact i think zouros will kick his ass out of the NT if he came.zouros once suspended brian beshara for a week and sat him in the stands...i hope he kicks him out too. i remember that, he also kicked cedric henderson out of sagesse for disciplinary reasons... he also had close trainings i remember, and yelled at camera men when filming his timeouts... sagesse held things privately back then...so with zouros in charge no more facebook crap by elkhatib....or other players acting like shits.
as for point 4, I think it's irrelevant. money also is irrelevant... but his availability with his club and how to have two teams is another issue, but it's same with mindaugas. i think those 2 are the most pro coaches, but with zouros being a hard dictator makes me prefer him more. he onced said he needed another year with sagesse to have an offense system for them..that's why i think by 2011 he will be able to make a fundemantally sound team.

does anyone know how much money does zouros get in the Greek league ????? can we afford to get him for 3 years so he can help us reach the olympics in 2012 by winning asia 2011 ???

[bblover]

elias zouros monthly salary is around 15 k in the month

[khaledlebanon]

elias zouros monthly salary is around 15 k in the month

then this is good:D cuz according to rumours th federation was welling to pay 750 K for 3 years for the coach .. this means about 21 K in each month :D so money won't be a problem :D:D

[daniab]

It seems Fouad Nehme is staying as the manager of the NT,this is a bad and unpromising start for the preparations.I said it once that Mr.Fouad is a very honest and respectable person but he lacks the enough knowledge and leadership,he can't even control the players so whats his role then?

[m_ajjour]

It seems Fouad Nehme is staying as the manager of the NT,this is a bad and unpromising start for the preparations.I said it once that Mr.Fouad is a very honest and respectable person but he lacks the enough knowledge and leadership,he can't even control the players so whats his role then?

I have a feeling that his tasks will be divided between kakhia and the new coach..so he will be just there as a facade..

[kerdito]

It seems Fouad Nehme is staying as the manager of the NT,this is a bad and unpromising start for the preparations.I said it once that Mr.Fouad is a very honest and respectable person but he lacks the enough knowledge and leadership,he can't even control the players so whats his role then?

I guess they should hand this job to Jassem Kanso or someone with his mentality since he was so efficient doing it and maybe he won't do it now because of his responsibilities at Hoops.

[bblover]

according to lebanese basketball group flbb is negogiating with dragan sakota great cv he coached more than 10 years in greece such as paok olympiakos in last 2 years he was coaching bologna in seria A italy he was the coach of the serbian nt in world championship in 2006

[kerdito]

according to lebanese basketball group flbb is negogiating with dragan sakota great cv he coached more than 10 years in greece such as paok olympiakos in last 2 years he was coaching bologna in seria A italy he was the coach of the serbian nt in world championship in 2006

He has a very good CV he was the only coach to win the Greece Div1 championship from outside Panathinaikos and Zeljko Obradovic in the last 10 seasons. Now the Federation has a wide list (more names might be included soon if Dragan didn't sign asap) I hope they will chose a good one.

[kerdito]

In 6 games so far in the NCAA our Lebanese Center Ali Kanaan is averaging: 6.8 pts, 4.7 rebounds, 2 blocks,1 assist and 0.5 steals in 20.5 minutes. (Ali has scored 2-7 from 3 pts line) Good luck for Ali.
On the other Hand and after 10 games in Netherlands, our NT player Daniel Faris is averaging:
10.2 pts. 5.2 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 block and 1 steal in 21 minutes of play shooting 48.8% FG, 53.8% from 3pt line and 87.5% from the free throw line.
Good luck for Daniel.

[spider]

The FLB is officially discussing with Elias Zouros

trusted sources.

[MALEK]

The FLB is officially discussing with Elias Zouros

trusted sources.Hope so.

[daniab]

The FLB is officially discussing with Elias Zouros

trusted sources.

its not the FLB discussing with anyone.
Agents are proposing their coaches and my info says that many agents have already contacted many coaches and proposed it on the FLB including Jim Harrick and they r still waiting the federation to give their last word about it!

FLB is now busy selecting the management that will lead and plan for the National Teams!

[MALEK]

FLB is now busy selecting the management that will lead and plan for the National Teams!But as you said before that Fouad Nehme should be replaced, and i think that Jasssem Kansso is the man that best fits in this position.

[spider]

daniab it's known that agents propose clients (players/coaches) to clubs, NTs, don't know what you meant by this. But I heard that they are negotiating with Zouros. They are the only party that can negotiate hiring coaches, it's not just pick and choose from different agents.

[daniab]

daniab it's known that agents propose clients (players/coaches) to clubs, NTs, don't know what you meant by this. But I heard that they are negotiating with Zouros. They are the only party that can negotiate hiring coaches, it's not just pick and choose from different agents.

u didnt understand what i meant.
there's a lot of coaches proposed,that doesnt mean the FLB is negotiating with him!

But anyway maybe ur news are true , and mine is wrong lets wait and see!

[bblover]

dani is there a possibilty to replace vroman or it is 100% confirmed that vroman will play since yesterday i heard jean abdelnour saying thay he prefer pure 5 that play the defence also khatib and rony and many other coaches and play said the same thing since there are lot of scorers i hope that jasem become the new manager of nt

[kerdito]

dani is there a possibilty to replace vroman or it is 100% confirmed that vroman will play since yesterday i heard jean abdelnour saying thay he prefer pure 5 that play the defence also khatib and rony and many other coaches and play said the same thing since there are lot of scorers i hope that jasem become the new manager of nt

I don't think Jassem would accept the job this time he won't be able to give it much time even though he seems to be the perfect one for it.
As for Vroman just give it sometime until the new coach shows up.
Besides this is sooooo related to the process of finding and importing Lebanese abroad Centers from all over the world, I guess everything is possible.

[daniab]

dani is there a possibilty to replace vroman or it is 100% confirmed that vroman will play since yesterday i heard jean abdelnour saying thay he prefer pure 5 that play the defence also khatib and rony and many other coaches and play said the same thing since there are lot of scorers i hope that jasem become the new manager of nt

as Kerdito said , nothing yet is decided and only the new coach would ask for replacing Vroman with another big man. (they should let the new coach watch the highlights tape of our team during the previous Asian Champ and basing on it he must leave a decision).

[tonysaade]

hey guys what do you think ? source sagesse forum

WILLIAM PHARIS basketball profile


Uniform #: 11
Height: 206cm / 6'9''
Position: Power Forward / Center
Born: 1981
Team: Svendborg (Denmark) (2008-09)
Nationality: USA-Lebanese
Agency: Pro Management Agency College: Arkansas

Current Stats

William Pharis Basketball Career

William Pharis
230lbs / 104kg
Born: April 21, 1981
Son of Bill and Karen Pharis
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Career:
Van Buren, Ark.
2001-2002: SMU (NCAA)
2002-2003: sat out
2003-2004: Arkansas (NCAA): 28 games: 5.5ppg, 2.9rpg, 1.3apg
2004: May: Heartland Invitational Tournament in Tulsa, Ok (Kleinco team)
2004-2005: Svendborg (Denmark-Basketliga): 26 games: Score-2(24.2ppg), 7.1rpg, 2.4apg, FGP: 43.6%, 3Pts-2(44.3%)
2008-2009: Svendborg Rabbits (Denmark-Basketligaen, starting five): EuroChallenge: 2 games: 12.5ppg, 3.0rpg, 2.5apg, 1.5spg, 1.0bpg; Danish League: 30 games: 18.3ppg, 5.6rpg, 1.8apg, 1.0spg, FGP: 56.0%, 3Pts: 45.0%, FT: 76.0%
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Awards/Achievements:
Danish League Semifinals -05
Danish League All-Star Game -09
Danish League Finalist -09
Eurobasket.com All-Danish Basketliga Honorable Mention -09


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It seems Jordanians wanted him to play for them:

William Pharis..Another Jordanian abroad! - Dec 17, 2009 (by Mohammed Malas)
In few days ago, An e-mail from an American agent was sent to me confirming that the US-based center William Pharis (206-F/C-81, college: Arkansas) has Jordanian roots from his father Bilal Pharis who already holds the Jordanian passport.

Pharis was graduated from The University of Arkansas back in the US in 2004, He played as a porfessional player in Denmark for 4 seasons with Svendborg Rabbits, His stats last season were 18.3ppg, 5.6rpg, 1.8apg & 1.0spg in 30 games in the local league adding to his participation with the club in FIBA EuroChallenge cup.

The 6'9 center is currently available so is it is a good chance to bring him to Jordan and start involving him to the national team plans to check on his level before FIBA World Championship (Turkey 2010) next August.

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Here is a message coming from the player confirming he is Lebanese. I got it from the lebanese basketball group on facebook:

Billy Pharis December 29 at 1:14am Report Yes, my family on my father's side are from Lebanese origin, and I'm currently trying to find out as much information and get all the paperwork I can from my father's side of the family now, while I'm rehabbing my foot (I had surgery on it).

I definitley want a chance to pl...ay for the Lebanese National Team once I get all the paper-work and stuff sorted out with my Agent. Before getting injured, I had been playing in Europe, but I would like to play for a Lebanese club once I get healthy.

Thanks for checking up on me man, and take care,

Billy

[daniab]

William Pharis is now working to get back his Lebanese papers so that he can join our NT and basically playing in the league.
He's not Jordanian at all and it was a mistake by the author!

[leb-basket]

William Pharis is now working to get back his Lebanese papers so that he can join our NT and basically playing in the league.
He's not Jordanian at all and it was a mistake by the author!

creating a whole story about his roots ....mistake. I doubt it.
I am sure its a trick similiar to what the syrian federation used to do with our lebanese root players (considering them as syrians abroad )

[daniab]

creating a whole story about his roots ....mistake. I doubt it.
I am sure its a trick similiar to what the syrian federation used to do with our lebanese root players (considering them as syrians abroad )

it was a mistake and that's it (mich droure na3moul men l 7abe ebeh)

[spider]

this guy pharis sucks, and this policy of bringing lebanese from abroad must stop. at least for mens NT. and i want vogel to be back with the NT instead of vroman,I hope the new coach picks him and not vroman.
And finally,no players should get salary,just a bonus if we win games. if freije and daniel faris wants money then they can leave.

[bblover]

i am with spider i am with getting lebanese abroad and we need matt faris kanaan but common not any more especially if they are not so good there is players players that are giving all they got to play with nt and this policy realy kills the progress of lebanese players instead of getting pharis and not playing many minutes with kanaan faris matt i hope cj giles give moe hamdar a chance

[rtk04]

all the friends that are saying they dont like the idea of getting lebanese abroad....well i dont agree with you on that point...all the foreign lebanese that played in asia tournament last summer and others that are willing to come are definitely better that the ones playing here....only 5-6 players here deserve to play on the world level...in the end honestly the trip to turkey wont be that attractive if we have a weak team filled with the likes of alifakhreddine-bassem balaa-elie stephan....i am vvery looking forward to travel to turkey to see a strong lebanese team be it all made up of 12 lebanese abroad under the condition that they are better than our local players

[helping123]

all the friends that are saying they dont like the idea of getting lebanese abroad....well i dont agree with you on that point...all the foreign lebanese that played in asia tournament last summer and others that are willing to come are definitely better that the ones playing here....only 5-6 players here deserve to play on the world level...in the end honestly the trip to turkey wont be that attractive if we have a weak team filled with the likes of alifakhreddine-bassem balaa-elie stephan....i am vvery looking forward to travel to turkey to see a strong lebanese team be it all made up of 12 lebanese abroad under the condition that they are better than our local players

GUYS,PLEASE CHECK [B]FOR RICHIE PHARES,(201,91),playing for louisville.

[leb-basket]

GUYS,PLEASE CHECK [B]FOR RICHIE PHARES,(201,91),playing for louisville.

check these 2 videos for richie phares:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DEW66ciSpA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JEtZLjSz-w&NR=1

it seems he is a gd player

[m_ajjour]

I am with getting any players from aboard to play for the nationalteam and in the league. but with one condition DONT GIVE ANY Cash upfront, even for local players, ONLY GIVE BIG BONUS

[helping123]

I am with getting any players from aboard to play for the nationalteam and in the league. but with one condition DONT GIVE ANY Cash upfront, even for local players, ONLY GIVE BIG BONUS

Actually, PHARES is injured ,He had a ligament knee problem,but he is really an important prospect to follow.

[sanformoh2005]

check these 2 videos for richie phares:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DEW66ciSpA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JEtZLjSz-w&NR=1

it seems he is a gd player

oooh yes he looks avery very good player
allah y7ma

[lebanon4ever]

how much time he needs to recover???

[lebanon4ever]

he cant play for the u18 NT :s he will be 19 :S

[helping123]

how much time he needs to recover???

I dont really know,but it the same ype of injury tawbe and mneimneh had,:(,so let s hope it s less severe.

[spider]

all the friends that are saying they dont like the idea of getting lebanese abroad....well i dont agree with you on that point...all the foreign lebanese that played in asia tournament last summer and others that are willing to come are definitely better that the ones playing here....only 5-6 players here deserve to play on the world level...in the end honestly the trip to turkey wont be that attractive if we have a weak team filled with the likes of alifakhreddine-bassem balaa-elie stephan....i am vvery looking forward to travel to turkey to see a strong lebanese team be it all made up of 12 lebanese abroad under the condition that they are better than our local players

we can still keep the lebanese abroad we got this year on condition that they play in lebanese league next season, the other condition play for free or dont play at all. ali kanaan i dont consider abroad because he was born in lebanon and he didnt get money or just little...plus he plays great defense.

But here it must stop, at least they must play in lebanese league for 2 years,if this could be the policy then why not trying to integrate them in lebanese culture,language and so on before they join.... paul khoury didnt play well in 2002 because he didnt know what it is to play for lebanon or the jersey... until 2005.... ali mahmoud is an exception....brian is a nutcase......i know too little about matt and daniel.....i really like ali kanaan and he must stay....matt and daniel i can accept if they play for free and in lebanese league...bring ahmad ibrahim and get back vogel on condition that vogel plays for free also..same for elkhatib.

we already paid 500k euros for wild card... i dont want the money spent on "billy" pharis, who is this guy to take money and a spot from a lebanese player and go to turkey ??? what is this policy or reasoning behind this ?????

[leb-basket]

guys guys we are talking as if he is negotiating with our federation we still dt even know if he is from lebanese roots or if he even has his Lebanese passport in case he was lebanese .

cheers

[daniab]

I agree with Spider, and be sure guys that this time things will be really different.the 2009 year was a lesson and the federation shouldnt repeat the same mistakes we did.
Anw i'm not with adding anymore Lebanese from abroad,the team we have is more than good , with a little preparation and faith , we can do a very good results.

I'm with adding abroad players to the youth team,this way we could first improve our youth teams and second we would gain those players from now.

P.S : there's a huge numbers of pure LEBANESE players playing in the American high schools , and many of them were born here and left to US!

[leb-basket]

i am with adding a tall pure center to the team

[daniab]

guys no more abroads or ancestors on our roster , subject closed and reasons cannot be said on public!

better to keep discussing with somethung useful now!

[spider]

guys no more abroads or ancestors on our roster , subject closed and reasons cannot be said on public!

better to keep discussing with somethung useful now!

let's hope so, this is getting ridiculous when you hear every day a new lebanese will come, I want to decrease the numbers that are in the NT and not increase them.

[lebanon4ever]

guys no more abroads or ancestors on our roster , subject closed and reasons cannot be said on public!

better to keep discussing with somethung useful now!

why?????!!!!! we need to know the reasons... the NT is for all the lebanese ...we sould know the reasons of all the decisions

[SNIPER]

They want to make it 6-6 mkarrar:)

[lebanon4ever]

They want to make it 6-6 mkarrar:)

what???????????????????????????????:p

[khaledlebanon]

this guy pharis sucks, and this policy of bringing lebanese from abroad must stop. at least for mens NT. and i want vogel to be back with the NT instead of vroman,I hope the new coach picks him and not vroman.
And finally,no players should get salary,just a bonus if we win games. if freije and daniel faris wants money then they can leave.

baddak vogel habibe !! shou newe yi5sar l NT b shi 100 p;ts bil WC !! akid badna vroman aw wa7ad a7san minno !! bas 7ada y2ille vogel !! 2inno 3am ti7ke min kil 3a2lak 3omro 36 sene l zalame w anja2 yimshe !! iza ma badkon vroman !! eh a7san ma njanis 7ada w yil3ab ali kanan and roy smaha 3al 5!!! mBAS MISH VOGEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!aw 7atta jad bitar w bassil bawji hek byiktesbo5ibra !! bas VOGEL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

We don't want vogel anymore he is 36 years old and can't run anymore!! we don't want to lose by 100 pts in WC !!!
Vroman must stay in the Nt or some one who is better and can play on 5 ( pure cenetr ) !!!

[SNIPER]

Vogel's back is prone to injury @ any excessive effort

[khaledlebanon]

let's hope so, this is getting ridiculous when you hear every day a new lebanese will come, I want to decrease the numbers that are in the NT and not increase them.

what is the problem with getting some lebanese aboard players that can help us against big teams in WC!! we have a problem on position 5 !! we don't have tall players!! so we really need someone on this position!!!

[khaledlebanon]

if it'strue that the federation won't bring anymore lebanese aboards to the NT:
in this case we have 2 choices:
1-Keep Vroman !!!

alim/rony
fadi/galeb/omar
matt/brian/jean
vroman/ali kanan
daniel faris/roy smaha ( today roy played a good game with sagesse .. hope he stays improving!! and return to his best (if he can play the way he played in WC 2002 and especially against france ... he will help us alot !! )

2-Bring another naturalized player !! a pure center and play let roy samaha and ali kanan play on position4!!!

Alimahmoud/rony fahed
fadi/galeb/omar
matt/brian/jean
ali kanan/roy smaha
Pure center[English or provide translation]/daniel faris

in both cases we need to build gd chemistry !! this is the responsibiliy of the coach!! [English or provide translation]

[lebanon4ever]

[English or provide translation]

[leb-basket]

[English or provide translation]

maybe the federation doesn't want to announce its problems for some certain reasons that we ignore , and maybe we should although i wanna know why but no need to all this stress guys

plz calm down or at least send a message to dani maybe he'll answer (it could be a privacy issue)ma azde chi dani :P

[lebanon4ever]

Dani we need to know the reason man

[khaledlebanon]

guys what the heck with you ?? i feel myself in a kids forum not a basketball forum!
can you please stop your limited thinking way of posting? all what u know is to ask for tall players lol Laziz expressed in a good way last time :D

the reason is simple " enough with half half players" , we have all the capabilities now and its up to the preparations and spirit in the team.

ya3ne if Billy Pharis comes, what will happen ? we will win the WC ? honestly some of you didn't learn anything from the last Asian Championship and you keep the same old song!!!!

will the federation change vroman ?? becuz as we all know that our problem in asia (other than the chemistry) was that we need a Pure center ???

[spider]

I really hope we get Zouros ASAP, theres so many crap mentality in our NT and bad players and alot of crap, alot of this virus infected some fans i see they think we can get all these players from abroad. I think he will clean the house when he comes, I don't care what we do in turkey,my main concern is to qualify to olympics in 2011, and get some new look on our NT, and hopefully his coaching/leadership as he is known he doesn't take any crap or have respect for big headed players,he might collide with them and I hope he will and they end up leaving. And to all who are praying for leb abroads to come, F--- those abroad players, I hope the ones that are in the NT leaves and never returns. or new ones joins.

[leb-basket]

of course with good preparation we can improve alot by working on our weak points regardless height problem but it would be better if we had a taller guy under the rim.

anw hope our future new coach can find a solution for that.

[lebanon4ever]

I really hope we get Zouros ASAP, theres so many crap mentality in our NT and bad players and alot of crap, alot of this virus infected some fans i see they think we can get all these players from abroad. I think he will clean the house when he comes, I don't care what we do in turkey,my main concern is to qualify to olympics in 2011, and get some new look on our NT, and hopefully his coaching/leadership as he is known he doesn't take any crap or have respect for big headed players,he might collide with them and I hope he will and they end up leaving. And to all who are praying for leb abroads to come, F--- those abroad players, I hope the ones that are in the NT leaves and never returns. or new ones joins.

man we are playing in the wc not in asia .. U have to send ur strongest team to compete ..We are not going to the wc for tourism.. With our local player we cant compete any team even in asia.. Im with getting more abroad for this wc and we should build a new team for 2011

[bblover]

guys it is simple we need a center i hope the federation naturalize cj giles before they naturalize vroman they wanted vincent jones cj is the same type of player but younger he is solution no need anymore another abroad cj can be very effecient without the ball offensively has some good moves not better than vroman but good and sweet shot and very good free throw shooter but the most important thing his defence bolckshoting ability is great and very good rebounder he is bo3bo3 defensively unlike vroman he can do the dirty work all the players can be more comfortable on the defense and the offence with him thats the player we need especially that he is lebanon now and will play alongside matt with riyadi

[khaledlebanon]

guys it is simple we need a center i hope the federation naturalize cj giles before they naturalize vroman they wanted vincent jones cj is the same type of player but younger he is solution no need anymore another abroad cj can be very effecient without the ball offensively has some good moves not better than vroman but good and sweet shot and very good free throw shooter but the most important thing his defence bolckshoting ability is great and very good rebounder he is bo3bo3 defensively unlike vroman he can do the dirty work all the players can be more comfortable on the defense and the offence with him thats the player we need especially that he is lebanon now and will play alongside matt with riyadi

i agree with u, CJ Giles can be a good solution!! but first lets see what can he do against strong teams in dubai tournament !! riyadi has the best team and hopefully the will win this tournament!!
ali m-toni madison- jean - matt - cj giles - nate - omar and vogel !!!

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in asia 2009, our problem was in positon 5 !!! cj can solve this problem he is a very good defensive player!! with ali kanan or roy smaha under the basket, they can make a very good defensive wall ... on the other side, cj giles is gd under the basket !! he can help matt and fadi in scoring !!!

ali m/ rony
fadi/galeb/omar
matt/jean/???
ali kanan /roy smaha
cj giles / daniel faris
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[rtk04]

i agree with u, CJ Giles can be a good solution!! but first lets see what can he do against strong teams in dubai tournament !! riyadi has the best team and hopefully the will win this tournament!!
ali m-toni madison- jean - matt - cj giles - nate - omar and vogel !!!

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in asia 2009, our problem was in positon 5 !!! cj can solve this problem he is a very good defensive player!! with ali kanan or roy smaha under the basket, they can make a very good defensive wall ... on the other side, cj giles is gd under the basket !! he can help matt and fadi in scoring !!!

ali m/ rony
fadi/galeb/omar
matt/jean/???
ali kanan /roy smaha
cj giles / daniel faris
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cj is a great player...but as u said we should wait and see if he is consistent throughout the year...

what a team for riyadi in dubai!

[kerdito]

First Real Test for CJ and the hole Riyadi team before Asia would be the next Dubai Championship, this won't be easy and CJ has to prove that he is from a high caliber.

[kerdito]

Fiba.com: Lebanon goes to Turkey with one eye on London 2012.

http://turkey2010.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/10/fwc/men/v2/news/p/eid/4728/nid/37968/sid/4728/article.html

[dreamwalker]

First Real Test for CJ and the hole Riyadi team before Asia would be the next Dubai Championship, this won't be easy and CJ has to prove that he is from a high caliber.

I have no doubts about CJ Giles being a high caliber player the only concern will be, can he put aside his personal and emotional problems related to family issues, his performance dipped while playing for his former team Smart-Gilas and his services was cut short and let him go.

I just hope all is well with his kid and wish him good luck.

[bblover]

i think vroman will be replaced it seems all the players are saying that he doesnt fit with nt also omar el turk today said with a chat at riyadi group that he prefers vincent jones and cj giles is his second choice it is obvious they want a defensive center

[kerdito]

i think vroman will be replaced it seems all the players are saying that he doesnt fit with nt also omar el turk today said with a chat at riyadi group that he prefers vincent jones and cj giles is his second choice it is obvious they want a defensive center

We all agree that Vroman is not a Center mostly not a defensive one which is the kind of player we want mostly, if we can get a Lebanese Big Center with Defensive skills Vroman would be the best fit since he is a terrific scorer.
But if we couldn't than a defensive center such as Vincent Jones would be better, CJ is great but I still believe that Vincent has better skills knowing that he is older than CJ a lot older.

[SNIPER]

when Vincent played in Lebanon, I did not seem him as a great player. He was an average player plus he's old now

[daniab]

when Vincent played in Lebanon, I did not seem him as a great player. He was an average player plus he's old now

Vincent has never played in Lebanon

[SNIPER]

:eek::D There was a tall center that played b4 with champville and muttahed didn't he have a similar name?

[daniab]

:eek::D There was a tall center that played b4 with champville and muttahed didn't he have a similar name?

that one is Jonathan Jones

[daniab]

By the way, next week Dubai tournament starts and (Jackson Vroman,CJ Giles and Vincent Jones) are going to be there so the federation should be aware of the performance of each one of them!

[leb-basket]

By the way, next week Dubai tournament starts and (Jackson Vroman,CJ Giles and Vincent Jones) are going to be there so the federation should be aware of the performance of each one of them!

not only ours, all the regional federations will end up fighting on getting one of those players lhamdella we already have one of them

i guess if vincent jones was naturalized, he wont stand more than 1 year because of his age

as for CJ giles i remember he was naturalized by the Filippino federation; however, he can still get offers from other federations if he released his filippino ID (i guess thats what happened with rony saikaly)

[spider]

i prefer losing without vroman,jones,giles with 50 pts than losing with one of them by 35 pts. do you think we need a nationalise center when we didn't qualify the least 2 champiomnships with vogel and vroman ? plus whoever came wants at least 100 k, money i dont think they deserve,they could be spent on youth NTs and camps.

I think with a smart coach we could at least represent our NT in a better way without the help of a nationalised center. but if the flb insisted on nationalised player they should get vogel, because he live in lebanon for 10 years now,but he should have a bench role.

[TrueBluePinoy]

not only ours, all the regional federations will end up fighting on getting one of those players lhamdella we already have one of them

i guess if vincent jones was naturalized, he wont stand more than 1 year because of his age

as for CJ giles i remember he was naturalized by the Filippino federation; however, he can still get offers from other federations if he released his filippino ID (i guess thats what happened with rony saikaly)

CJ wasn't naturalized. He was released by Smart GILAS due to behavioral problems. He has talent no doubt but his off-court antics didn't suit well with the management.

[daniab]

i prefer losing without vroman,jones,giles with 50 pts than losing with one of them by 35 pts. do you think we need a nationalise center when we didn't qualify the least 2 champiomnships with vogel and vroman ? plus whoever came wants at least 100 k, money i dont think they deserve,they could be spent on youth NTs and camps.

I think with a smart coach we could at least represent our NT in a better way without the help of a nationalised center. but if the flb insisted on nationalised player they should get vogel, because he live in lebanon for 10 years now,but he should have a bench role.

i do agree with you but i doubt the federation would go without a naturalized player.
For me,i prefer to have Vogel and when he retires we should rely on Daniel Faris,Ali Kanaan and Roy Samaha!

[leb-basket]

but its always a height problem

in lebanon we have tall guys above 210cm but the thing is they dt like basketball or are not getting any attention from Div 1 teams! this is all wrong !

[khaledlebanon]

i prefer losing without vroman,jones,giles with 50 pts than losing with one of them by 35 pts. do you think we need a nationalise center when we didn't qualify the least 2 champiomnships with vogel and vroman ? plus whoever came wants at least 100 k, money i dont think they deserve,they could be spent on youth NTs and camps.

I think with a smart coach we could at least represent our NT in a better way without the help of a nationalised center. but if the flb insisted on nationalised player they should get vogel, because he live in lebanon for 10 years now,but he should have a bench role.

why we won't do both at the same time!!!
we are in WC and we have a chance to reach the 2nd round if we win on NZ and canada if we have with either vroman or CJ Giles !! at the same time we can put money on the youth teams .. so that from now till 2013, we can have some gd players that can help us reach Wc 2014 without a naturalized player!!!
i know we need money to achieve this !! but this is the responsibility of the federation!!!

[leb-basket]

why we won't do both at the same time!!!
we are in WC and we have a chance to reach the 2nd round if we win on NZ and canada if we have with either vroman or CJ Giles !! at the same time we can put money on the youth teams .. so that from now till 2013, we can have some gd players that can help us reach Wc 2014 without a naturalized player!!!
i know we need money to achieve this !! but this is the responsibility of the federation!!!
and the responsibility of the ministry of sports is to finance the federation but "dooollar maaa fi mister" :D:D:p

If we had enough money we can finance all the lebanese national teams
help all the lebanese teams to get strong imports and strong lebanese abroad by that increasing the popularity of the game ---> more lebanese player joining lebanese teams (from diff heights especially tall ones)--->bigger crowd---->bigger courts---> stronger league (not because of the courts of course)----> stronger national team

this is how iran and the philippine developed its basketball

[kerdito]

i prefer losing without vroman,jones,giles with 50 pts than losing with one of them by 35 pts. do you think we need a nationalise center when we didn't qualify the least 2 champiomnships with vogel and vroman ? plus whoever came wants at least 100 k, money i dont think they deserve,they could be spent on youth NTs and camps.

I think with a smart coach we could at least represent our NT in a better way without the help of a nationalised center. but if the flb insisted on nationalised player they should get vogel, because he live in lebanon for 10 years now,but he should have a bench role.

We can do both, and budget could be provided for both but I don't see any big amounts spent on a youth program unfortunately

[daniab]

Its good to see Roy Samaha doing well , i think he's on the right track of getting back to his normal level!
Roy could be at least a very good backup for the starting center,he still needs to decrease his weight a little!

Fadi sounds in his top form and that makes me feel comfortable about our team.You can't lie to yourself that Fadi's healthy = Lebanon's healthy!
CJ Giles is proven that he's a good all around center,and could be really the one we need on position 5.

I'm waiting to see Matt Freije this week during Dubai Tournament,as i heard from many people that Matt is in shape.

[kerdito]

Its good to see Roy Samaha doing well , i think he's on the right track of getting back to his normal level!
Roy could be at least a very good backup for the starting center,he still needs to decrease his weight a little!

Fadi sounds in his top form and that makes me feel comfortable about our team.You can't lie to yourself that Fadi's healthy = Lebanon's healthy!
CJ Giles is proven that he's a good all around center,and could be really the one we need on position 5.

I'm waiting to see Matt Freije this week during Dubai Tournament,as i heard from many people that Matt is in shape.

Yes Matt seems to be ready....
So now we have Ali Kanaan, Roy Smeha, Daniel Faris, a naturalized player, and on the 4 Matt, maybe William, Hussein Tawbe(if he was back to his level)
Did I forget anyone?

[spider]

what does that shaker guy want now ? he wants fouad nehme out of the FLB with some other members. shaker should resign himself from the FLB, him and tannous came against jassem kanso in the previous world championship when shaker was put as the position of "committee for supporting NT" , this was the first to happen. He always used to be behind changing coaches, players in riyadi and now he wants to mess with the NTs, i know fouad nehme is not the best but he's 10x better than shaker, and it was a mistake to put him in the arab federation.

[interxavierxxx]

I thought you guys might want to know that the Qatar "Naturalized" Team has a bunch of new players. One of their most recent ones, according to Daniab, is a Lebanese. I'm not Lebanese but I sort of feel insulted by this decision of the Qatari government.

[lebanese NT]

I thought you guys might want to know that the Qatar "Naturalized" Team has a bunch of new players. One of their most recent ones, according to Daniab, is a Lebanese. I'm not Lebanese but I sort of feel insulted by this decision of the Qatari government.

who cares we have beaten a full naturalized quatari team on their home court in 2005 in the semi final of the asian championship which made us qualify to the WC.now their good players are getting old and i cannot consider them a top team anymore in asia until they prove me otherwise in the next asian championship.now our only concern is to achieve good results in the wc cause after being chosen as a wildcard the pressure on us is doubled.we have to prove to the world that we really did deserve it or we will be humiliated by a lot of basketball fans that it was a wrong decision choosing us instead of teams like nigeria or dominican republic.let the quatari team naturalize whomever they want they will still be beaten by the top asian teams ( china ,lebanon iran ...) even a well trained philippine team can give them a hard time! congrats for smart gilas for their friendly win however what usually matters are the official results.

[spider]

If the lebanese olympic committee doesn't hold elections by the end of this month the IOC will freeze it's membership as well as all it's national federations, Which means we might not go to turkey this year.

[ElArZ]

If the lebanese olympic committee doesn't hold elections by the end of this month the IOC will freeze it's membership as well as all it's national federations, Which means we might not go to turkey this year.
Heh. It's Lebanon, everything gets resolved, one way or another.

[daniab]

CJ is the man!
naturalize him , put Fadi Fahed Abdelnour and Matt around it will be great!

The guy do not use the ball much , if you notice he gets his points from a one touch unlike Vroman who used to keep the ball a lot in his hands!

[khaledlebanon]

CJ is the man!
naturalize him , put Fadi Fahed Abdelnour and Matt around it will be great!

The guy do not use the ball much , if you notice he gets his points from a one touch unlike Vroman who used to keep the ball a lot in his hands!
CJ is GREAT!! we really need him to replace Vroman !!we need someone to play on 5 !! this guy is CJ!!! he alraedy know our players!! especially ali mahmoud,omar and matt!!!plus he is young he is just 24 :D
don't forget Ali mahmoud !! he is playing very well with riyadi this season and against mahram he dominated kamrani completely!!

[khaledlebanon]

AliM/rony/rodrick
Fadi/galeb
Matt/jean/omar
Roy/ali K/matt
CJ/faris
:D:D
till now .. i think this is the best possible team for WC !!
maybe saba7,elie rustom or brian can replace galeb and rodrick!! depending on their level!! i prefer not to see brian on nt!! he is not playing and he is not in shape !! plus he might effect our NT negatively.. especillay that his relationship with fadi is not gd!! we need fadi more !!!

[reamily]

AliM/rony/rodrick
Fadi/galeb
Matt/jean/omar
Roy/ali K/matt
CJ/faris
:D:D
till now .. i think this is the best possible team for WC !!
maybe saba7,elie rustom or brian can replace galeb and rodrick!! depending on their level!! i prefer not to see brian on nt!! he is not playing and he is not in shape !! plus he might effect our NT negatively.. especillay that his relationship with fadi is not gd!! we need fadi more !!!

but beware on the other countries esp in arab region also bent in naturalizing cj:D

[khaledlebanon]

but beware on the other countries esp in arab region also bent in naturalizing cj:D

yeah maybe!! but any player dreams to play in WC !! CJ won't say No to lebanon!! especially that he is playing with riyadi now and he is playing very good !! and it seem that he likes lebanon!! cuz he doing his best and playing well!!:D:D

[Tomé]

Spanish coach Javier Imbroda rejected an offer from Lebanon Federation to manage the team in the next World Cup

http://thehoopsmarket.blogspot.com/2010/01/javier-imbroda-rejected-offer-to-become.html

Question for the Lebanese fans. I heard months ago that a former NCAA coach was chosen to manage the team. What happened to him?

[daniab]

Spanish coach Javier Imbroda rejected an offer from Lebanon Federation to manage the team in the next World Cup

http://thehoopsmarket.blogspot.com/2010/01/javier-imbroda-rejected-offer-to-become.html

Question for the Lebanese fans. I heard months ago that a former NCAA coach was chosen to manage the team. What happened to him?

It was Jim Harrick a Lebanese-American coach,but the federation is looking for another options!

[marc333]

Spanish coach Javier Imbroda rejected an offer from Lebanon Federation to manage the team in the next World Cup

http://thehoopsmarket.blogspot.com/2010/01/javier-imbroda-rejected-offer-to-become.html

Question for the Lebanese fans. I heard months ago that a former NCAA coach was chosen to manage the team. What happened to him?

WOWW!!! He was the coach of Spain NT when it finished 3rd in 2001 Eurobasket and 5th in 2002 FIBA WBC!!!

If the FLB is considering coaches of such caliber, I'm very confident abt the Lebanese NT! It also means the FLB has the budget to pay such a coach since this wasn't the reason why he refused!..

[daniab]

WOWW!!! He was the coach of Spain NT when it finished 3rd in 2001 Eurobasket and 5th in 2002 FIBA WBC!!!

If the FLB is considering coaches of such caliber, I'm very confident abt the Lebanese NT! It also means the FLB has the budget to pay such a coach since this wasn't the reason why he refused!..

Mr.Saad El Hariri will give the federation 1,000,000$ to prepare the National teams and other helps will be annouced soon!

[ElArZ]

Mr.Saad El Hariri will give the federation 1,000,000$ to prepare the National teams and other helps will be annouced soon!
Next up: LBF becomes SHBF :rolleyes:

But seriously, if it weren't for him, we wouldn't have even been there, so big thx.

[ElArZ]

Spanish coach Javier Imbroda rejected an offer from Lebanon Federation to manage the team in the next World Cup

http://thehoopsmarket.blogspot.com/2010/01/javier-imbroda-rejected-offer-to-become.html

Question for the Lebanese fans. I heard months ago that a former NCAA coach was chosen to manage the team. What happened to him?
Thanks for the info.

Hopefully, they will look for other high caliber European coaches because it's interesting to see how the team fares with the European style of play rather then the American one we're used to.

[Tomé]

WOWW!!! He was the coach of Spain NT when it finished 3rd in 2001 Eurobasket and 5th in 2002 FIBA WBC!!!

If the FLB is considering coaches of such caliber, I'm very confident abt the Lebanese NT! It also means the FLB has the budget to pay such a coach since this wasn't the reason why he refused!..

Well, Javier Imbroda's cache is devaluated in Spain. He was a failure coaching Real Madrid, and then he managed a couple of Spanish teams (Valladolid and Menorca) that finished relegated to the Spanish LEB Oro (the second division). I don't think there will be a lot of ACB teams interested in him, so i don't think Imbroda is in position of demanding much money right now.

[leb-basket]

Mr.Saad El Hariri will give the federation 1,000,000$ to prepare the National teams and other helps will be annouced soon!

This guy is willing to improvw the lebanese national teams (not only bball)to a higher level.
Remember the wild card.

NB i am not talking politics plz. I encourage every guy willing to help the national team what ever his political views are.

[m_ajjour]

Mr.Saad El Hariri will give the federation 1,000,000$ to prepare the National teams and other helps will be annouced soon!

Yes he should be thanked.. we know that all Lebanese politicians are corrupted ion some way or another put at least this guy is willing to help and share :)

Man imagine if we form the Lebanese basketball political party league.

We will have one team for each party

FM, FPM, HA, PSP and each with a budget like 5,000,000 usd a year wow..

Kata2eb, 2owet and the rest of the 14 marchers one team
While the rest of the 8 marchers with join to form another..
Antranik can stay as-is..

I think the shuy3est will will form the weakest team and they will get relegated to the second division.. :D

And maybe HA will get ehdadi and samad nikha as foreigners..

Just kidding

[khaledlebanon]

Yes he should be thanked.. we know that all Lebanese politicians are corrupted ion some way or another put at least this guy is willing to help and share :)

Man imagine if we form the Lebanese basketball political party league.

We will have one team for each party

FM, FPM, HA, PSP and each with a budget like 5,000,000 usd a year wow..

Kata2eb, 2owet and the rest of the 14 marchers one team
While the rest of the 8 marchers with join to form another..
Antranik can stay as-is..

I think the shuy3est will will form the weakest team and they will get relegated to the second division.. :D

And maybe HA will get ehdadi and samad nikha as foreigners..

Just kidding[English or provide translation]

[nader]

Group B W L Points
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1- Louaizeh 2 - +37
2- Champville 2 - +27
3-Central - 2 - 21
4- Evangelical - 2 - 43

[nader]

Group A w L Points
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1- Mont La Salle 2 - + 71
2- College 1 1 + 1
3- Jamhour 1 1 - 12
4- Antonins - 2 - 60

[leb-basket]

Yes he should be thanked.. we know that all Lebanese politicians are corrupted ion some way or another put at least this guy is willing to help and share :)

Man imagine if we form the Lebanese basketball political party league.

We will have one team for each party

FM, FPM, HA, PSP and each with a budget like 5,000,000 usd a year wow..

Kata2eb, 2owet and the rest of the 14 marchers one team
While the rest of the 8 marchers with join to form another..
Antranik can stay as-is..

I think the shuy3est will will form the weakest team and they will get relegated to the second division.. :D

And maybe HA will get ehdadi and samad nikha as foreigners..

Just kidding
yeah maybe a new civil war will pop out

[nader]

sry guys bel ghalat

[daniab]

Few things i would like to say abt the NT:

1-The federation won't play big salaries for any player,and those players like Matt Freije is asked to join before 3 months and for a very very reasonable money,the same goes to Vroman in case we keep him and Daniel Faris.For khatib,he will surely play for FREE or stay home!

2-our team will participate in 4 teams tournament in Philipines (Iran,China and Smart Gilas will be there)

[Lebanon]

Few things i would like to say abt the NT:

1-The federation won't play big salaries for any player,and those players like Matt Freije is asked to join before 3 months and for a very very reasonable money,the same goes to Vroman in case we keep him and Daniel Faris.For khatib,he will surely play for FREE or stay home!

2-our team will participate in 4 teams tournament in Philipines (Iran,China and Smart Gilas will be there)

they will pay Daniel Fares?:mad: for his 10 pts/game average in one of the weakest league in europe?

why will the pay Matt , Vroman and Fares small sums while Khatib has to play for free? Khatib is better than all of them combined!

What about ali kanaan? why should he play for free while Daniel gets money?

[daniab]

they will pay Daniel Fares?:mad: for his 10 pts/game average in one of the weakest league in europe?

why will the pay Matt , Vroman and Fares small sums while Khatib has to play for free? Khatib is better than all of them combined!

What about ali kanaan? why should he play for free while Daniel gets money?

i didnt say daniel faris will get paid, i said he won't get paid like the last time!
afterall , all players will get pocket money!

[m_ajjour]

they will pay Daniel Fares?:mad: for his 10 pts/game average in one of the weakest league in europe?

why will the pay Matt , Vroman and Fares small sums while Khatib has to play for free? Khatib is better than all of them combined!

What about ali kanaan? why should he play for free while Daniel gets money?

A very reasonable question..

ALL players should get the same amount off pocket money..
But they can hive different schemes for rewards on achievement.. example freige who can average 15+ pts will get more than omar who may average 7 pts a game

That will be more fair!!

Of cours the big bonus should be given on wins.

[Lebanon]

A very reasonable question..

ALL players should get the same amount off pocket money..
But they can hive different schemes for rewards on achievement.. example freige who can average 15+ pts will get more than omar who may average 7 pts a game

That will be more fair!!

Of cours the big bonus should be given on wins.

I am definitely with what you are saying. There is a huge difference between giving all players pocket money and buses and giving some of them big sums just so that they accept to play!

[khaledlebanon]

Few things i would like to say abt the NT:

1-The federation won't play big salaries for any player,and those players like Matt Freije is asked to join before 3 months and for a very very reasonable money,the same goes to Vroman in case we keep him and Daniel Faris.For khatib,he will surely play for FREE or stay home!

2-our team will participate in 4 teams tournament in Philipines (Iran,China and Smart Gilas will be there)

These players will play in the WC!! which is a dream for every player!! no one must be paid even vroman!! i think vroman is wishing that he will be called to play with our NT!! money should be the reward for their achievments for example a 5000$ for every win!! and 10,000$ for each player if they made the 2nd round!! maybe 20,000$:P if they reached the quarter-finals:P:P

[kerdito]

Vroman is a naturalized player he is not Lebanese so of course he should be paid (if he stays our naturalized and I hope we can get a better defensive center) he should not get as much as he did the first time but still I don't think his situation is close at all to any of the other players'.
As for the rest well they should all get the same amounts with bonuses after each win as you guys have said, and maybe some bonuses even before the start of the WC as a motive.
The biggest amount should be spent on preparations and maybe a great a coach than can really improve the quality of Basketball (as much as possible within the small time left)

[bblover]

guys any news about the coach time is running and we didnt sign a coach yet

[Lebanon]

guys any news about the coach time is running and we didnt sign a coach yet

some are saying that the most serious choices are Elias Zouros and Dragan Sakota.

[bblover]

dani is it right that william pharis coming to lebanon to bev with nt and try to sign with a team for waba championship ?

[daniab]

dani is it right that william pharis coming to lebanon to bev with nt and try to sign with a team for waba championship ?

i have no idea

[daniab]

guys are you with including our senior team in stankovic cup in case China and Iran do not send their team "A" ???

For me, i hope the federation won't let our "A" team play in this tournament for many reasons:
1- its before 1 week of the WC and you can't be preparing against Kuwait,UAE,Qatar and those teams.
2-we shall be playing against European teams during this time.
3- we could use our U18 team,it could be a great preparation for the Asian U18 Championship!

[kerdito]

guys are you with including our senior team in stankovic cup in case China and Iran do not send their team "A" ???

For me, i hope the federation won't let our "A" team play in this tournament for many reasons:
1- its before 1 week of the WC and you can't be preparing against Kuwait,UAE,Qatar and those teams.
2-we shall be playing against European teams during this time.
3- we could use our U18 team,it could be a great preparation for the Asian U18 Championship!

I am with you but weren't we supposed to host the international Stankovic cup and not the Asian version? if yes as they once said and some European teams might be a part of it then It's a must to be a part of it. And I think in both cases the under 18 should participate.

[kaiziken_pinas]

Yo friends, how're the preparations for the WC?

are there young prospects for your NT guys?
can't help but ask. hehe.
hmmm also, please don't take this question offensively: is your federation planning to Naturalize a new player? or are you still going for jackson?

just asking guys.

[daniab]

Yo friends, how're the preparations for the WC?

are there young prospects for your NT guys?
can't help but ask. hehe.
hmmm also, please don't take this question offensively: is your federation planning to Naturalize a new player? or are you still going for jackson?

just asking guys.


preparations didn't start yet and the federation is still looking for a coach.
Ahmad Ibrahim is number one prospect in the country and he's for sure considered for the big National!

Jackson Vroman is an option and we r looking for different options as well!

[kaiziken_pinas]

preparations didn't start yet and the federation is still looking for a coach.
Ahmad Ibrahim is number one prospect in the country and he's for sure considered for the big National!

Jackson Vroman is an option and we r looking for different options as well!

are you looking for a foreign coach or a local one? is Coach Abu Chakra(don't really know the name, basta coach of Al-Riyadi) being considered?

is the story of him going here in RP spread sir?

[daniab]

are you looking for a foreign coach or a local one? is Coach Abu Chakra(don't really know the name, basta coach of Al-Riyadi) being considered?

is the story of him going here in RP spread sir?

the federation is looking for a foreigner coach and only few people knew abt the visit of Fouad abou Chakra, but i was told that Coach Fouad was very impressed and he said that the Filippino fans are the best and crazy abt the game!

[kaiziken_pinas]

the federation is looking for a foreigner coach and only few people knew abt the visit of Fouad abou Chakra, but i was told that Coach Fouad was very impressed and he said that the Filippino fans are the best and crazy abt the game!

of course, it was GINEBRA playing when he watched the games. hehe. Thanks for the info sir, I appreciate it

[bblover]

i hope to see ghaleb rida in the nt he realy deserve it this man realy matured a lot great defender with big heart these kind of players we need in our nt not pussies

[spider]

i think they only agreed to host it on a condition, to get asian championship 2011, so pierre kakhia signed a contract about this, it must pass through the executive committee so we can host next year, and stankovic qualifies the first 5 to asian championship 2011. but if we are the host we're qualified already. so i think sending our best team is bad, send the u18. and why trsvel to east asia to play a 4 nations there ? makes no sence, too much extension,europe is closer to havr all their camps there or lebanon,invite teams for 4 nations in lebanon.

[bblover]

at alakhbar newspaper said that thursday the federation will anoune the nt coach 2 lebanese candidates for (3000$) monthly and (8000-12000) monthly for foreign coach and the budget is 500000$ that means less spending than summer we can use the other half for the league and young player hope it is right

[daniab]

I have a feeling that Fouad Abou Chacra is our NT coach :D

[spider]

I have a feeling that Fouad Abou Chacra is our NT coach :D

if they waited two months after the wild card to hire abu khara then i don't know what to say.

[tonysaade]

I have a feeling that Fouad Abou Chacra is our NT coach :D

woohoo great choice .... sarcasm akid

[SNIPER]

Maybe it is a combination of coaches. The main one is a foreign coach plus one or two Lebanese coaches as assistants

[kerdito]

I guess it's gonna be:
1- European coach (from Greece or Spain) for the senior NT+ Abou Chakra.
2- Ghassan Sarkis ( for the U18).
I think such combination could be good if Abou Chakra don't interfere in choosing the players and if Ralph Sarkis is over 18 :P

[Lebanon]

Is 8000-12000$/month enough to get a decent foreign coach?

[samer_1_2]

I think Abou Chakra is not bad as someone said.. sure he is not an outstanding coach but good. He needs good players to get along with big games.

Coach Sarkis is an average coach. He felt already that he will loose in the WC and that s not good inspiration to give..

CGiles should be naturalized instead of Vroman.. it s needed.. In addition to Giles, Lebanese federation should look for another big guy as an additive to Giles.. you need centers .. It s not a shame to bring back abroad players.. they will play later in the Lebanese league.

Someone said once that they don' t play good from heart and they laugh even they were loosing.. I say The same happened with Fadi Khatiba and Brian Bechara.. They don' t like EACH OTHER.. FADI SAID HE doesn't want a foreign coach.. Why !!! He felt he lost his role as before ...
The smartest coach has to find the smartest way to get players adapted.. Look why Joe Vogel played like more than a Lebanese.. you should do the same with Freige/vroman/Giles/Faris.. Federation should allow them to pay in the lebanese league.. those mistakes shouldn t happen again.

Plus a preparation period - more than 5 months in order to find the harmony between them. Plus playing in strong tournaments (no easy ones..)..

Give bonuses and money and stability to the players .. and prepare for a strong local league without interference and politics..

Thus Lebanese Basketball Team will be competitive.. And whoever says other than that he s lying on him self, as Lebanese way of thinking ..

Cheer up guys - cooperation is what you need...

[bblover]

any news about the nt coach today they must announce the name

[kerdito]

any news about the nt coach today they must announce the name

FAC is close to be the assistant coach of the NT.

[daniab]

My lineup after 12 rounds in the league:

PG : Ali Mahmoud - Rony Fahed
SG/SF: Ghaleb Rida - Omar Turk - Jean Abdelnour - Ahmad Ibrahim - Fadi El khatib
PF/C : Ali Kanaan - Daniel Faris - Roy Samaha - Naturalized player - Matt Freije

Additional players
Bassel Bawji
Sabah khoury
Rodrigue Akl
Bassem Balaa
Moe Ibrahim
Patrick Bou Abboud
Elie Rustom
Hussein Khatib
Joey Accaoui from abroad

[SNIPER]

My lineup after 12 rounds in the league:

PG : Ali Mahmoud - Rony Fahed
SG/SF: Ghaleb Rida - Omar Turk - Jean Abdelnour - Ahmad Ibrahim - Fadi El khatib
PF/C : Ali Kanaan - Daniel Faris - Roy Samaha - Naturalized player - Matt Freije

Additional players
Bassel Bawji
Sabah khoury
Rodrigue Akl
Bassem Balaa
Moe Ibrahim
Patrick Bou Abboud
Elie Rustom
Hussein Khatib
Joey Accaoui from abroad

Where is Brian?
Do you believe Fadi's excuses?? min 7izb al khatib :rolleyes:

[lebanon4ever]

My lineup after 12 rounds in the league:

PG : Ali Mahmoud - Rony Fahed
SG/SF: Ghaleb Rida - Omar Turk - Jean Abdelnour - Ahmad Ibrahim - Fadi El khatib
PF/C : Ali Kanaan - Daniel Faris - Roy Samaha - Naturalized player - Matt Freije

Additional players
Bassel Bawji
Sabah khoury
Rodrigue Akl
Bassem Balaa
Moe Ibrahim
Patrick Bou Abboud
Elie Rustom
Hussein Khatib
Joey Accaoui from abroad

what about the center who will play with riyadi? Why not adding him to the NT

[bblover]

fadi intereview on radio el sharq

-he will play with nt and will give his maximum and that we have the chance to go to 2nd round but their must be gd preperation and play with one heart not like last year
-concentrate on leb playing in the league and get some leb abroad to give a push not vice versa
-about leb abroad he likes matt freije and that nt needs him and especialy ali kanaan he likes him a lot he said also last week on sawt el shaab
_about the naturalize player he said that vroman is very gd player but he not the player we need the nt needs a pure center and the candidates are loren woods vincent jones and maybe cj giles since sobhi said his name and he said that he is very gd
-

[daniab]

fadi intereview on radio el sharq

-he will play with nt and will give his maximum and that we have the chance to go to 2nd round but their must be gd preperation and play with one heart not like last year
-about leb abroad he likes matt freije and that nt needs him and especialy ali kanaan he likes him a lot he said also last week on sawt el shaab
_about the naturalize player he said that vroman is very gd player but he not the player we need the nt needs a pure center and the candidates are loren woods vincent jones and maybe cj giles since sobhi said his name and he said that he is very gd

i dont know why Fadi keep on telling secrets of the NT but yes all the three players are considered but i honestly prefer CJJJJJJJJJJ :D
Fadi changed his tune a little bit, he is now more accurate about the problem he used to talk about which is Brian Beshara and not Matt Freije!

[daniab]

what about the center who will play with riyadi? Why not adding him to the NT

"this player" didnt sign yet and i doubt he will

[bblover]

yesterday i heard fouad ne3me on sawt el sha3ab that today there is a meeting about the coachof the nt any news dani ?

[bblover]

is it true that the nt coach will be an american ? is he jim harrick ?

[spider]

LIB – Lebanon home in on next coach
BEIRUT (2010 FIBA World Championship) - Lebanon have narrowed their list of candidates to coach the national team to four names and expect to make an appointment next week.

Pierre Kakhia, the country’s basketball federation president, told FIBA.com on Friday: “We had a long meeting yesterday and couldn’t reach a final decision.

“We are in discussions with four different coaches and have not come to an agreement. We are very close, but still did not finalize one of the four.”

Kakhia did not say the names of the candidates, but when asked which countries they hail from, he said: “We have one from the (United) States, one from Australia, from Serbia and one more from another country near Serbia.”

Dragan Raca coached Lebanon last summer and steered them to a fourth-place finish at the FIBA Asia Championship.

Only the top three sides – Iran, China and Jordan – qualified for the 2010 FIBA World Championship in Turkey.

However in December, Lebanon received a wild card to play in this year’s 24-team tournament.

They have been drawn in Group D of the Preliminary Round along with Spain, France, Canada, New Zealand and Lithuania.

FIBA


http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/38715/arti.html

[interxavierxxx]

Is CJ Giles gonna carry the Lebanese colors in the WC or will it still be Jackson Vroman?

From what I've seen, CJ Giles seems to fit well in your system as Vroman is more of a 4 than a 5.

[ElArZ]

Is CJ Giles gonna carry the Lebanese colors in the WC or will it still be Jackson Vroman?

From what I've seen, CJ Giles seems to fit well in your system as Vroman is more of a 4 than a 5.
It's all still forum-talk till now.

The new coach will decide whether to keep Vroman or get a pure center.

But a pure center, someone like CJ, should be better than Vroman for our team.

[Lebanon]

CJ Giles' recent performance with Riyadi is very disappointing.

[lebanon4ever]

Roy samaha can play the 5 with the help of ali kanaan so vroman is the best solution

[SNIPER]

CJ Giles' recent performance with Riyadi is very disappointing.

True, he's not explosive and fearful as before, he cooled down the tempo and enthusiasm.

[khalid]

True, he's not explosive and fearful as before, he cooled down the tempo and enthusiasm.

the answer is very simple:
because teams adjusted to his style of play.
CJ mainly scored his points in fast breaks because he runs the court pretty well.. When a team has a good transition defense and a good solid big man, CJ efficiency is being very limited and he's struggling big time... The guy has barely any post move and most of his points were out of open court offenses and where he had to finish clean assists. Fans enjoyed his leaping abilities and spectacular dunks which made him in their eyes a super player. In close tight games against strong teams, he quickly gets in a foul trouble and throws himself out of the game. He's definitely not the player that our NT needs for the World cup.. He can never last 1 or maximum 2 quarters and matchup against teams that have multiple big guys who are fundamentally sound and will be able to easily stop him.

[Lebanon]

the answer is very simple:
because teams adjusted to his style of play.
CJ mainly scored his points in fast breaks because he runs the court pretty well.. When a team has a good transition defense and a good solid big man, CJ efficiency is being very limited and he's struggling big time... The guy has barely any post move and most of his points were out of open court offenses and where he had to finish clean assists. Fans enjoyed his leaping abilities and spectacular dunks which made him in their eyes a super player. In close tight games against strong teams, he quickly gets in a foul trouble and throws himself out of the game. He's definitely not the player that our NT needs for the World cup.. He can never last 1 or maximum 2 quarters and matchup against teams that have multiple big guys who are fundamentally sound and will be able to easily stop him.

Perfectly said!

[daniab]

I completely agree with Khalid although i wanted CJ to be naturalized but i started to notice that CJ depends on the other players to make him involved in the game.Meaning that he can't play with his back neither do have a good shooting from the midrange.
This issue needs to be studied very well , cz in case we wanted to keep Vroman , we have to let him play on position 4 and if we want him to play the 5,we need to search for another player!

[m_ajjour]

I completely agree with Khalid although i wanted CJ to be naturalized but i started to notice that CJ depends on the other players to make him involved in the game.Meaning that he can't play with his back neither do have a good shooting from the midrange.
This issue needs to be studied very well , cz in case we wanted to keep Vroman , we have to let him play on position 4 and if we want him to play the 5,we need to search for another player!

I really have big doubts about CJ,

1-he commits a lots of stupid fouls
2-he cannot defense without being over aggressive
3-he doesn't have a consistent offensive game
4-his professionalism(his kid sits on the bench!!)
5-his experience doesn't seem complete

[bblover]

guys the 2 canditates before cj are loren woods and vincent jones but guys we are thinking now only about the wc since many players dream about and they will not cost much but what about the asian games will vroman or other naturalize players be with us and about 2011 asian championship we will pay 120 k for a naturalize player or he will not play since that i prefer a player playing in lebanese league and it is not important to score and play 40 mins he can be a role player at the end we will not always naturalize player like its the only way to compete if now we have money what if we dont and cant pay for naturalize we will nt have a nt think about that guys paying 120 k for vroman and giving frata for rony and others fuck naturalizing if it will be like this and about center we have very gd center roy ali kanaan (can be one of the best ) daniel faris he will not be payed like last time and ready to play in lebanon

[interxavierxxx]

Coach Rajko Toroman's statement about CJ Giles was right: "He's only good at the beginning."

[ElArZ]

guys the 2 canditates before cj are loren woods and vincent jones but guys we are thinking now only about the wc since many players dream about and they will not cost much but what about the asian games will vroman or other naturalize players be with us and about 2011 asian championship we will pay 120 k for a naturalize player or he will not play since that i prefer a player playing in lebanese league and it is not important to score and play 40 mins he can be a role player at the end we will not always naturalize player like its the only way to compete if now we have money what if we dont and cant pay for naturalize we will nt have a nt think about that guys paying 120 k for vroman and giving frata for rony and others fuck naturalizing if it will be like this and about center we have very gd center roy ali kanaan (can be one of the best ) daniel faris he will not be payed like last time and ready to play in lebanon
SERIOUSLY?

Do we or do we not lack in the center position? (Do not compare Roy to the likes of Loren or Vincent)
Do we or do we not improve our NT's level when we include a naturalized center?

Those are the reasons why people donate money.

[kaiziken_pinas]

CJ has low BBall IQ. I mean, he's flashy and like what Coach T said, "heis only good at the beginning".

OT:
Hey guys, I was just asking what were the best ever games in Asia? One involving the Lebanese NT and one not involving your NT. Asia vs Asia only hehe. Please I need your opinion

[daniab]

CJ has low BBall IQ. I mean, he's flashy and like what Coach T said, "heis only good at the beginning".

OT:
Hey guys, I was just asking what were the best ever games in Asia? One involving the Lebanese NT and one not involving your NT. Asia vs Asia only hehe. Please I need your opinion


To me , Lebanon vs Korea (semi finals Asia 2001) and Lebanon vs China (Finals Asia 2005)

and the one not involving Lebanon , i would pick Jordan vs Iran (Semi Finals Asia 2009)

[kerdito]

For those who are saying CJ commits stupid fouls, I can say one thing, CJ commits some fouls because he is aggressive as for Vroman well he is the one committing stupid fouls for no reason and running the court all the way without passing the ball committing a lot of Turnovers.
As for CJ yes he ain't explosive lately as he was, his moves are not up to Vroman's level, honestly Vroman might be the most skilled F-C to ever play in the region till now and maybe he has the best bball IQ but lacks some basics that CJ has.
It's really a critical situation I just hope we can get to the best solution and that we can fit in the best roster at the end with all those names waiting for a chance.
I think if we took care of choosing players and preparing them this NT could be the best one we've ever had so far.

[Laziz]

The US potential coach for the NT, is already in Lebanon and watching games.

[ayman n]

The US potential coach for the NT, is already in Lebanon and watching games.

WHO? Rolando Blackman!!!!!!

[interxavierxxx]

What happened to Dragan Raca? Federation not happy with his recent performance?

[daniab]

What happened to Dragan Raca? Federation not happy with his recent performance?

Dragan failed 2 times with Lebanon NT , you think we should keep him?
anw only the American coaches succeed with our NT and to me i support Jim Harrick!!

[m_ajjour]

dreaming of a damn olympic spot? haha... what're ya gonna do then?

this is an issue where bold headed people like you, are not allowed to interfere in...

[kerdito]

dreaming of a damn olympic spot? haha... what're ya gonna do then? get thrashed?

10 years ago no one knew about us even in Asia and during these 10 we were always the toughest competitors for China, and I don't know if you have any basketball background but back in 2006 Lebanon beated France in the world cup, we believe in Miracles and Basketball is where we have proved that we can still fly, not saying we can get a tittle shot but at least try to improve our level and gain some experience.

[rikhardur]

So any concrete news about who the next coach will be?

[Lebanon]

So any concrete news about who the next coach will be?

nothing official yet but rumors are hinting at Ronaldo Blackman.

Hope not!!:(

[bblover]

dani is it true that jim harrick will be the coach and fouad abu chacra the assistant ?

[wilo22]

nothing official yet but rumors are hinting at Ronaldo Blackman.

Hope not!!:(

man i'm 100000000% sure that he won't be the nt coach. you

[bblover]

guys after dubai and waba i think the federation must hold on with vroman after great performances especially today against jalaa but only play the 4 and play roy ali or daniel the 5 what do u think ?

[MALEK]

guys after dubai and waba i think the federation must hold on with vroman after great performances especially today against jalaa but only play the 4 and play roy ali or daniel the 5 what do u think ?
No, we need to get a CENTER.

[wilo22]

guys after dubai and waba i think the federation must hold on with vroman after great performances especially today against jalaa but only play the 4 and play roy ali or daniel the 5 what do u think ?

yea man speacialy with cj's bad performance we have to play with vroman on 4 and roy 5 or vroman 5 and matt,ali,daniel 4

[gazara]

guys , i think it s better to keep vroman ... vroman is an experienced player ...you see what he did against china ...

[kerdito]

guys , i think it s better to keep vroman ... vroman is an experienced player ...you see what he did against china ...

As a 4 yes but if we want to play him as a Center than I would prefer to get another player, look at him he always plays great games on the 4, with Mahram he has Loren Woods and last year he had a Center, he can really produce more as a PF.

[Lebanon]

The choice now is between an americasn coach and australian Brian Goorjian.

[daniab]

The choice now is between an americasn coach and australian Brian Goorjian.

true :)

[spider]

they should settle the coach issue this week, time is running out, if they sign goorjian that would be great.

[lebanon4ever]

Brian Goorjian profile:
http://www.lebanesebasketball.co.cc/2010/03/brian-goorjian.html

[bblover]

brian goorjian is very close to be our nt coach hope he will sign

[daniab]

brian goorjian is very close to be our nt coach hope he will sign

hope so
Brian is a good and experienced coach, i hope he will come sooner so that he could follow the league and pick objectively the players.

GO LEBANON GO

[lebanon4ever]

NEW COACH FOR THE LEBANESE NATIONAL TEAM

بعد فشل المفاوضات مع المدرب الأسترالي براين غورجيان يسعى الاتحاد اللبناني ل كرة السلة إلى التعاقد مع مدرب إسباني معروف عالمياً

http://www.lebanesebasketball.co.cc/2010/04/new-coach-for-lebanese-national-team.html

[rtk04]

guys annahar newspaper mentioned something about getting an excellent lebanese player to play with the national team...can anyone provide us with extra info about it:D
يحضّر رئيس اتحاد لعبة منتشرة لتعزيز المنتخب الوطني المشارك في استحقاق خارجي، بلاعب من مستوى رفيع لم تعرف القارة الآسيوية مثيلاً له

[leb-basket]

guys annahar newspaper mentioned something about getting an excellent lebanese player to play with the national team...can anyone provide us with extra info about it:D
يحضّر رئيس اتحاد لعبة منتشرة لتعزيز المنتخب الوطني المشارك في استحقاق خارجي، بلاعب من مستوى رفيع لم تعرف القارة الآسيوية مثيلاً له

still searching for new players???

[bblover]

tommorow flb will have a meeting and decide the nt coach (lebanese basketball group) is the canditates names already been mentioned before or a new name ?

[Lebanese]

This monday at 8 pm, live interview with Lebanon's National team captain Fadi El-khatib in this group :
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=130659949082

[daniab]

This monday at 8 pm, live interview with Lebanon's National team captain Fadi El-khatib in this group :
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=130659949082

and 9 pm with Daniel Faris on "Lebanese basketball " group.

good job man!

[spider]

i hope the flb appoint peter schomers as head coach and rolando blackman as assistant coach.

[kerdito]

and 9 pm with Daniel Faris on "Lebanese basketball " group.

good job man!

Final six featured more FB interviews than Basketball games:P
This getting really interesting.

[rtk04]

any news about the new coach of the NT...?

[bblover]

any news about nt coach ?

[bblover]

why it took so long to sign a nt coach in 3 weeks the league will finish so the federation will pick the players like last year so we must have a coach that coach or coached before in lebanon what is realy funny that pr kakhia that the reason he doesnt want a coach that already coaching a team while most of nt in europe coaches coaching teams in regular season even we get a high caliber coach he will not do miracles take mario palma as an example in the first year in 2007 jordan took the 5th place asia with time they improved the coach is not a macigian fr me the canditates are peter schoemers paul caughter ghassan sarkis

[ANIBAL-RK]

EXCLUSIVE NEWS FOR LEBANESE BASKETBALL GROUP ON FACEBOOK

Thomas "Tab" Baldwin is officially the new NT coach and will arrive tuesday to Lebanon!!

tHOMAS BALDWIN basketball profile

Position: Head Coach
Born: 1958
Team: Kepez Bld (Turkey) (2009-10)
Nationality: - New Zealand
Previous teams:
Auckland (New Zealand)
Thomas Baldwin Basketball Career

Thomas Baldwin (Photo: NZOOM)
Born: May 16, 1958 in Jacksonville, Florida, USA
Full name: Thomas Antoni Baldwich
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Head Coach:
1983-1986: Auburn-Montgomery (NCAA2)
1986-1988: Cent.Florida (NCAA)
1988-1990: Otago Nuggets (New Zealand)
1991: Southland Under-18s
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Coach Assistant:
1992: Auckland
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Head Coach:
1994-2000: Auckland
2001: Auckland
2004-2005: In Jan.'05 signed at Banvit Basketbol Kulübü (Turkey-D1)
2005-2006: Banvit Basketbol Kulübü (Turkey-D1)
2007-2008: PAOK Marfin Thessaloniki (Greece-A1), left in Dec.'07, next month was hired by Univ Mobitelco Cluj Napoca (Romania-Div.A)
2008-2009: Univ Mobitelco Cluj Napoca (Romania-Div.A)
2009-2010: Kepez Bld Antalya (Turkey-TBL), left in Feb.'10
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Awards/Achievements:
New Zealand Champion -95, 97, 99, 00
New Zealand Coach of the Year -95, 97, 99
Head Coach: New Zealand National Team -01-06
New Zealand NZBL All-Star Game -01
New Zealand League Semifinals -01
Goodwill Games in Brisbane (Australia) - 01
World Championships in Indianapolis (USA) -02
Olympic Games in Athens -04
FIBA Europe Cup South Conference Champion -05
FIBA Europe Cup Semifinals -05
Commonwealth Games in Melbourne -06 (Silver)
Turkish League Semifinals -06
Eurobasket.com All-Turkish League Coach of the Year -06
World Championships in Japan -06
Romanian League Finalist -08
Romanian League All-Star Game -09

[gazara]

Not Bad ,Rabih Do you know his style of coaching .... deffence...
he know very good New Zealand team ...he coach them 2001-2006 ...so we can win over them ... with this coach ...

[reamily]

will baldwin coach lebanon for short term or for long term (olympic slot:D)

[gazara]

Yea man ,the federation doesn t want a coach for monthes ,they want a coach for more than year ....
and that s why Goorgian didn t accept the contract ,also moncho monsalve ... the didnt accept the conditions ...
Hope that Baldwin Do a good result with our NT :)

[daniab]

im glad to announce that Thomas Baldwin is our coach , this announcement came during an interview with Mr.Kakhia today.
Check the interview this monday!

[mvblair]

Hm. I was hoping you guys would get Goorjian, but I guess things didn't work out. Baldwin is certainly a veteran coach who has taken New Zealand to a high level. Lebanon is already at that high level, so I guess this is a reasonable step for Baldwin. I think he should do pretty well!

[lebanese NT]

im glad to announce that Thomas Baldwin is our coach , this announcement came during an interview with Mr.Kakhia today.
Check the interview this monday!

do u know anything about him dany? is he good ?would u bet on him to take lebanon to the second round in the wc? will he take lebanon to win the cup in the next asian championship in leb? waiting ur feedback.:cool:

[bblover]

gd choice hope from the federation to treat all the players equaly and be desicive about the money issue for all playes maybe pocket money accept the naturalize player and give the chance for players that re having a gd season and have they same chance as leb abroad and let the coach choose gd luck and hope we qualify to the 2nd round

[lebanon4ever]

Thomas Baldwin full profile:
http://www.lebanesebasketball.co.cc/2010/04/thomas-tab-baldwin-new-lebanese.html

[Lebanese]

This monday at 8 pm, live interview with Lebanon's National team captain Fadi El-khatib in this group :
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=130659949082

u can ask him abt the new coach, federation, wc, lebanese league,.... whatever u want be there!

[kerdito]

Great choice, veteran coach with big experience, I can still remember the way the Tall Blacks played back in 2002, great strategies and everyone was impressed with their style on and off the court (with that weird dance).
I believe this is someone who can really get the job done.
Congratulations to all the Lebanese fans.

[wilo22]

Riyadi officially released Matt Freije... Matt may sign a new contract soon in Puerto Rico... Plus Matt may not Join the NT this summer!!!:mad:

Roy Smaha will join Riyadi for Asia instead of Ali FakherDin

source lebanese basketball group on facebook

[SNIPER]

Riyadi officially released Matt Freije... Matt may sign a new contract soon in Puerto Rico... Plus Matt may not Join the NT this summer!!!:mad:

Roy Smaha will join Riyadi for Asia instead of Ali FakherDin

source lebanese basketball group on facebook

I doubt he will sign with a team, all leagues are almost finished and he is not in shape to join a team and make an impact.

[gazara]

hey willoo you watch Matt performance in Dubai he was very bad ,+ we don t want players ...to play with the NT for money ...we want players to play from their heart and their love to lebanon... like Khatib ,Rony ...
Why matt will get paid ? and Roni not ?? tell me why if he don t want to play because for free ...
Better to let him out ...
we don t need players who play for money...
We want players to be proud of them ....
Matt plays with lebanon for moneyy...and i don think he help lebanon a Lot ... roni fahed gives us ... Games ...
Why not putting ghaleb in the NT ??

[spider]

hey willoo you watch Matt performance in Dubai he was very bad ,+ we don t want players ...to play with the NT for money ...we want players to play from their heart and their love to lebanon... like Khatib ,Rony ...
Why matt will get paid ? and Roni not ?? tell me why if he don t want to play because for free ...
Better to let him out ...
we don t need players who play for money...
We want players to be proud of them ....
Matt plays with lebanon for moneyy...and i don think he help lebanon a Lot ... roni fahed gives us ... Games ...
Why not putting ghaleb in the NT ??

lol at the bolded part and khatib.

and i should add roni too after his last interview.

[MALEK]

The only player that can help the NT among the new players is Ali Kanaan.

[wilo22]

lol at the bolded part and khatib.

and i should add roni too after his last interview.

you don't have to forget that players in lebanon don't earn enough money like player outisde lebanon do and their career is max. 15 years and then what can they do?

[daniab]

lol at the bolded part and khatib.

and i should add roni too after his last interview.

man what do you expect from Rony????
Damn , the guy is giving his heart out with the NT since 1998 !!!!! its his 12th year with the NT and i cant but stand up for him. He didnt miss any Asian Championship,he didnt complain any time about anything.
Come on guys,this way of disrespecting those guys who represented Lebanon in the best and the worse moments are not be treated this way.

[samer_1_2]

Pierre Kakhia said that Matt will join the NT this summer..
Also Ali Kenaan, Daniel faris..

The coach will choose between Vroman or another.

What about the rumors of adding a new super player playing position C ? Anyone knows?

[daniab]

Pierre Kakhia said that Matt will join the NT this summer..
Also Ali Kenaan, Daniel faris..

The coach will choose between Vroman or another.

What about the rumors of adding a new super player playing position C ? Anyone knows?

not true

[kaiziken_pinas]

is the Lebanese team going here in the Philippines this Summer? dani said so in our forum. if they do, what for?

[bblover]

rony didnt say he wants money but also other must ask for it so all the players must be treated equally the federation must be strict no money for anyone maybe bonuses