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g.g
08-16-2010, 03:57 PM
The title is self explanatory but it would be good if you add why you believe each team would be reaching the semis.
Thanks

patriota44
08-16-2010, 04:06 PM
Serbia,Spain,Usa and Greece. In final Serbia and Greece.....

jasua_85
08-16-2010, 04:15 PM
spain,usa,argentina,serbia ı think greece not will be qualify for f4

alternative:lithuina,turkey,brasil,crotia

Dtown
08-16-2010, 04:28 PM
Greece vs Serbia

USA vs Spain

with Brazil, Argentina, Turkey, as the most likely spoilers.

khaledlebanon
08-16-2010, 04:56 PM
Lebanon,Serbia,Greece and Spain

hahaha:P

GOOOO Lebanon<3
The Cedars are Coming :D

g.g
08-16-2010, 05:18 PM
Lebanon,Serbia,Greece and Spain

hahaha:P

GOOOO Lebanon<3
The Cedars are Coming :DI wish I had your confidence:D:D:D

eliooo93
08-16-2010, 06:02 PM
USA, Spain, Serbia and Greece/Argentina.

Alyosha12
08-16-2010, 07:15 PM
USA, Spain, Serbia and Greece/Argentina.

This.

khaledlebanon
08-16-2010, 07:20 PM
I wish I had your confidence:D:D:D

haha:P I just have faith in my NT :D
Reaching semi-finals is just a Dream :)
But Our Goal is to reach 2nd round :D


Gooo Lebanon<3,The Cedars are Coming :D

marko
08-16-2010, 08:32 PM
haha:P I just have faith in my NT :D
Reaching semi-finals is just a Dream :)
But Our Goal is to reach 2nd round :D


Gooo Lebanon<3,The Cedars are Coming :D

I think it is hard for us to even win a game .. yes we have faith !! we are not going there just to lose and come we will try.. but it is real hard ..

anywayz
What I think :

USA, Spain, Greece, Serbia

I wish spain doesnt make it but i doubt

g.g
08-16-2010, 09:23 PM
Serbia, Spain, Greece, USA

Serbia being the favourite from what we've seen so far IMHO. I am also starting having doubts about the US. Greece up to now seems very strong while Spain losing quite a lot of its strength without Gasol and that is a fact no matter if many in this forum disagree.

Argentina, Brazil, Turkey (if they can put it together), Croatia, Lithuania, PR, Slovenia, are teams that with some luck they are capable to do it. :)

Khalid80
08-16-2010, 10:18 PM
USA, Spain, Serbia and Greece/Argentina.

I also go with Elie on this one

NorCal
08-16-2010, 10:27 PM
Spain, Greece, USA and Serbia seem like favorites at this point as most everyone has been stating. It is very likely that there will be many upsets in this tournament though.

asdzas
08-17-2010, 01:02 AM
Well, can't judge teams when they are only playing preparation games. But USA, Spain and Serbia are the three teams that I would say will make the semi now.

But Argentina, Lithuania, Turkey, Greece, Brazil, Puerto Rico, Slovenia can all make the Semis. Hard to say who will, all of them have differences, but depending on the how the competition will improve, they can ''surprise'' and make it.

fastbreak
08-17-2010, 01:06 AM
Serbia

Spain

USA

Lithuania

rocketstar47
08-17-2010, 10:38 AM
Angola

New Zealand

Iran

Tunisia

g.g
08-17-2010, 10:45 AM
Angola

New Zealand

Iran

TunisiaI wonder what's the odds if I bet a $ on that? :D

BAASHO
08-17-2010, 12:04 PM
Spain,usa,greece,slovenia or argentina

Adon
08-17-2010, 03:33 PM
I assume that Spain,USA,Serbia,Greece and Argentina are a notch better than the rest.
According to the FIBA schedule,Greece and USA are favored in comparison with Argentina,Spain and Serbia.At 8-finals there will be (probably) a game Spain-Serbia (if Serbia is 2nd in group A) or Spain-Argentina(if Argentina is 2nd in group A).In any case,one of them (SRB or ARG) will reach semifinals without a game against USA,GR,ESP.

Most probable scenario imo
1.Group 70 winner Greece
2.Group 71 winner USA
3.Group 69 winner Serbia (or Argentina)
4.Group 72 Spain vs Argentina-winner Spain (?)
or Spain vs Serbia -winner ?????

Final prediction for semifinals

USA,Greece and (with descending possibilities)
Serbia
Spain
Argentina

Luíz for 3
08-18-2010, 01:57 AM
I think it's quite obvious the name of the 4 semi-finalists, and they will be Argentina, Greece, USA and Spain, respectively the winners of the Group A, B, C and D. So the semis will be ARG-GRE and USA-ESP. Greece will be in the final and I think Spain could prevail against a new and unexperienced Team USA, like Greece did 4 years ago.

In the quarter finals, I expect to watch Brazil, Lithuania, Puerto Rico and Serbia.

Adon
08-18-2010, 08:49 AM
I think it's quite obvious the name of the 4 semi-finalists, and they will be Argentina, Greece, USA and Spain, respectively the winners of the Group A, B, C and D. So the semis will be ARG-GRE and USA-ESP. Greece will be in the final and I think Spain could prevail against a new and unexperienced Team USA, like Greece did 4 years ago.

In the quarter finals, I expect to watch Brazil, Lithuania, Puerto Rico and Serbia.

Argentina is not obviously the winner of group A. Serbia seems to be very strong this year.There are (at least) 2 very interesting and undecided games until the semifinals.
1.Argentina-Serbia
2.Spain-looser 1.

After the injuries of Sofo and Bourousis, it's very difficult for Greece to reach SF.

CG
08-18-2010, 09:00 AM
After the injuries of Sofo and Bourousis, it's very difficult for Greece to reach SF.

who told you will not come to Turkey?
i bet one of them (for me both of them) will certaintly join Greece in Turkey
Bourousis started practises while i think Sofo is not so serious.and we have ten days.
so relax they will join the team

Adon
08-18-2010, 01:07 PM
who told you will not come to Turkey?
i bet one of them (for me both of them) will certaintly join Greece in Turkey
Bourousis started practises while i think Sofo is not so serious.and we have ten days.
so relax they will join the team

A little optimism is always welcome:cool:

g.g
08-18-2010, 01:20 PM
A little optimism is always welcome:cool:Most likely both players would go to Turkey, as I read Sofo's injury is NOT serious while Bourousis doctors estimate that most likely he would go to Turkey as the common healing time for his injury is 10 days.:)

Luíz for 3
08-18-2010, 02:50 PM
Argentina is not obviously the winner of group A. Serbia seems to be very strong this year.There are (at least) 2 very interesting and undecided games until the semifinals.
1.Argentina-Serbia
2.Spain-looser 1.

After the injuries of Sofo and Bourousis, it's very difficult for Greece to reach SF.

You're right. It's not guarented the 1st place for Argentina, but after the game they did against Spain I saw them as a team with possibilities to reach the medals. Serbia will be the powerhouse of Europe in the years to come and the 2012 Olympics are the big challenge to this generation, said Dušan Ivković. By now, I believe more in Scola and Argentina.

Panathinaikos Athens
08-18-2010, 03:01 PM
Sofo and Bourousis were never the key players for Greek NT. So even if they won't participate to the WC that wont be a disaster for Greece.

Don't forget that our most value player, D.Diamantidis didn't make it out for the Eurobasket of 2009 and Greece won the Bronze medal with out him.

Greece has got many good players and can substitute almost anyone.

But as far as we know according to the Greek media, both players will play sofo & Bourousis.

Adon
08-18-2010, 03:59 PM
They are the main 2 centers.Imagine 2006 or Euro 2009 without them.And now,there is too late for substitutes.

Let's hope they'll be both OK.

Panathinaikos Athens
08-18-2010, 04:11 PM
They are the main 2 centers.Imagine 2006 or Euro 2009 without them.And now,there is too late for substitutes.

Let's hope they'll be both OK.

Ιn 2006 we had only Sofo and he wasn't our main center. L.Papadopoulos was.
Sofo was never our main cender. Not even now.

Bourousis lacks of strength & movements in the base line. He is an excellent player but he is not the typical center.

So i believe that if he wont play, Vougioukas can do the job and fill the gap of his loss.

Tsartsaris is helping a lot in defensive rebounds as well. So we wont have so big problem if Bourousis wont make it to the WC.

Greece has so many talented players in the position 5.

Bourousis
Shortsianitis
Vougioukas
Koufos
Maurokefalidis.
Glyniadakis.
And many other young kids to come.

Adon
08-18-2010, 09:11 PM
Greece has so many talented players in the position 5.

............
Koufos
Maurokefalidis.
Glyniadakis.
And many other young kids to come.

You understand that none of them can play in this WBC,I suppose.

I mention the successes of 2006 and 2009 just to remind you how useful Bourou(only in 2009) and Sofo have been-especially the underestimated Sofo.

I disagree totally with your evaluation and I don't believe that Vougioukas can fill the gap-not by far,but it's OK since you are Panatha.

(edit) no misunderstandings .I am Panatha also.

g.g
08-18-2010, 09:13 PM
You understand that none of them can play in this WBC,I suppose.

I mention the successes of 2006 and 2009 just to remind you how useful Bourou(only in 2009) and Sofo have been-especially the underestimated Sofo.

I disagree totally with your evaluation and I don't believe that Vougioukas can fill the gap-not by far,but it's OK since you are Panatha.Vougioukas may not, but Tsatsaris yes

Adon
08-18-2010, 09:23 PM
Vougioukas may not, but Tsatsaris yes

The gap of Bourou yes.
The much biger gap of Sofo,nope.
Sofo is a different kind of tool.

Perseus
08-19-2010, 06:57 AM
wait 8 years my son is coming ...

(hopless) he doesn't like basket and he is Olympaikos (drama...)

Adon
08-19-2010, 07:06 AM
wait 8 years my son is coming ...

(hopless) he doesn't like basket and he is Olympaikos (drama...)

I feel ya.:D

dxjayrock2008
08-19-2010, 10:38 AM
Greece.
Serbia.
Slovenia.
Lithuania.

Blackway
08-19-2010, 11:59 AM
Greece USA Spain and the other teams will fight for 4th spot

I don't know if this works out with the brackets but its how it should be imo

BrutalDlx
08-19-2010, 01:18 PM
Prediction for the QFs

Serbia beats Lithuania easily
Greece beats Brazil hopefully
Spain beats Argentina sadly
Turkey beats USA withhelpfromAllah-ily

softice
08-19-2010, 02:21 PM
prediction for the qfs

serbia beats lithuania easily
greece beats brazil hopefully
spain beats argentina sadly
turkey beats usa withhelpfromallah-ily

:d :d :d :d :d

sinobball
08-19-2010, 04:12 PM
Prediction for the QFs

Serbia beats Lithuania easily
Greece beats Brazil hopefully
Spain beats Argentina sadly
Turkey beats USA withhelpfromAllah-ilyI agree with this :D

Perseus
08-19-2010, 04:20 PM
Hey Sinobball what about ramadjan?

sinobball
08-19-2010, 04:34 PM
Hey Sinobball what about ramadjan?I don't understand, you mean Turkey will be affected by ramadan? I don't know, but I've read before that Hakeem Olajuwon plays better during ramadan. Maybe someone else more familiar with this can explain...

Franz
08-19-2010, 05:39 PM
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Greece beats Spain in close game to take gold.

Serbia beats USA in close game to take bronze.

That said, I watch out for Brazil, Croatia, or Puerto Rico who could shake up things.

FIBA Europe Basket
08-19-2010, 06:06 PM
Sofo and Bourousis were never the key players for Greek NT. So even if they won't participate to the WC that wont be a disaster for Greece.

Don't forget that our most value player, D.Diamantidis didn't make it out for the Eurobasket of 2009 and Greece won the Bronze medal with out him.

Greece has got many good players and can substitute almost anyone.

But as far as we know according to the Greek media, both players will play sofo & Bourousis.

Diamantidis has never been the most valuable player of the national team. In 2005 he was probably the third most valuable, with Papaloukas (1) and Zisis (2) being the most valuable.

In 2006, the most valuable were Spanoulis (1), Papaloukas (2), Schortsanitis (3).

In 2007, it was Spanoulis first and after that it was Dikoudis second. Diamantidis was probably third or fourth that year along with Papaloukas.

In 2008, it was (1) Spanoulis, (2) Bourousis, (3) Fotsis, (4) Papaloukas. Diamantidis might have been 5th.

In 2009, Greece won the bronze medal without him even playing, as guys like Spanoulis (1), Schortsanitis (2), Bourousis (3), Fotsis (4) stepped for them.

The Diamantidis worship has to stop. GET REAL. My goodness....some PAO fans overrate him even more than some Barca fans overrate Rubio. Diamantidis has NEVER been the most valuable player of Greece's national team. NEVER.

If anything, he has often been a big disappointment. You cannot be taken seriously if you are going to claim Diamantidis is Greece's most valuable player.

g.g
08-19-2010, 06:12 PM
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Greece beats Spain in close game to take gold.

Serbia beats USA in close game to take bronze.

That said, I watch out for Brazil, Croatia, or Puerto Rico who could shake up things.good one :D:D:D

Alvertis4
08-19-2010, 06:36 PM
The Diamantidis worship has to stop. GET REAL. My goodness....some PAO fans overrate him even more than some Barca fans overrate Rubio. Diamantidis has NEVER been the most valuable player of Greece's national team. NEVER.

If anything, he has often been a big disappointment. You cannot be taken seriously if you are going to claim Diamantidis is Greece's most valuable player.

Is this for real? :confused:

Best defensive player on Greece.

Scores & has great defensive plays in extremely crucial moments.

He might not be Greece's LEADER, but he's always a Top 2-3 player. He's the only player with Top 3 performance from 2004 until now.
He cannot be the LEADER, because his game is not offensive. He's the player that will kill the opponent in a one on one defence, the player that will get the rebound that everyone thought was gonna end up into a second chance, the player that could follow the opponent on transition and come up with a great block, the player that will get you the steals, and in some moments, he can score threes as well. And now with Kazlauskas he can average 12ppg as well and become that leader.

He was the crucial missing piece in 2009.

Ahmad Z.
08-21-2010, 03:31 AM
Lebanon,Serbia,Greece and Spain

hahaha:P

GOOOO Lebanon<3
The Cedars are Coming :D



Impossbile Is Not Lebanese :P
Soo We & Spain Will Qualify :P
hayda 7ake :P

Gooo Lebanon ! <3 :D
Turkey ! Here We Come :D :)

prtzn
08-23-2010, 12:50 PM
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Greece beats Spain in close game to take gold.

Serbia beats USA in close game to take bronze.

That said, I watch out for Brazil, Croatia, or Puerto Rico who could shake up things.
It's interesting that European teams don't lose to teams from other continents in your prediction.

About Serbia, I had a feeling that we're a bit overrated here, but after this incident with Greece, reaching the semifinal looks really tough to accomplish.

Here's what Duda Ivkovic said about our chances now:

Idemo na Svetsko prvenstvo u neplaniranoj atmosferi. U ovoj situaciji u kojoj smo se našli idemo nasumice, utakmicu po utakmicu. Naš ključni meč je prvi sa Angolom, a u ovom trenutku ne znamo na koje igrače možemo da računamo. Pitate za medalje. Mi smo u procesu stvaranja tima, medalja prošle godine je osvojena slučajno, ne zbog kvaliteta ekipe nego zbog spleta okolnosti. U ovom trenutku ne znam da vam kažem ni da li ćemo grupu proći, a ne da pričam o nekim titulama

Translation:
We are going to the World Cup with an atmosphere which we didn't plan. In this situation, we are heading randomly, game by game. Our most important match is the first one, against Angola, and at the moment we don't know which players we'll be at our disposal. You're asking about Medals. We are in the process of creating a team, last years medal has been won by accident, not by team quality. At the moment, I can't tell you if we'll proceed from group stage, let alone talk about winning titles

melizei
08-23-2010, 01:28 PM
I don't understand, you mean Turkey will be affected by ramadan? I don't know, but I've read before that Hakeem Olajuwon plays better during ramadan. Maybe someone else more familiar with this can explain...

Ramadan is a month when muslims don't eat and drink anything between sunrise and sunset.This helps to understand poor people.After that month muslims gave money to poor people,we call it as Zekat.As you see there is no explanation about Hakeem Olajuwon played better during Ramadan :) If there were an effect because of Ramadan,I think that would be hunger,thirst or frailty :)

sseppel
08-23-2010, 01:51 PM
Ramadan is a month when muslims don't eat and drink anything between sunrise and sunset.This helps to understand poor people.After that month muslims gave money to poor people,we call it as Zekat.As you see there is no explanation about Hakeem Olajuwon played better during Ramadan :) If there were an effect because of Ramadan,I think that would be hunger,thirst or frailty :)

That's the point. If you play a game, let's say, at 18:00 and you haven't eaten anything, and what is worse, you haven't DRINK anything, you'll suffer. You can't have enough stamina.

Anyway, do the turkish players respect the Ramadan fasting 100% or are they allowed at least to drink or something?

melizei
08-23-2010, 04:15 PM
That's the point. If you play a game, let's say, at 18:00 and you haven't eaten anything, and what is worse, you haven't DRINK anything, you'll suffer. You can't have enough stamina.

Anyway, do the turkish players respect the Ramadan fasting 100% or are they allowed at least to drink or something?

I don't think they are fasting.Because if they fast, they will break fast at 20:00 .And I don't think most of the players are religious in Turkish NT.

g.g
08-23-2010, 10:47 PM
Is this for real? :confused:

Best defensive player on Greece.

Scores & has great defensive plays in extremely crucial moments.

He might not be Greece's LEADER, but he's always a Top 2-3 player. He's the only player with Top 3 performance from 2004 until now.
He cannot be the LEADER, because his game is not offensive. He's the player that will kill the opponent in a one on one defence, the player that will get the rebound that everyone thought was gonna end up into a second chance, the player that could follow the opponent on transition and come up with a great block, the player that will get you the steals, and in some moments, he can score threes as well. And now with Kazlauskas he can average 12ppg as well and become that leader.

He was the crucial missing piece in 2009.true;)

Picek
08-24-2010, 06:27 AM
He's the player that will kill the opponent in a one on one defence, the player that will get the rebound that everyone thought was gonna end up into a second chance, the player that could follow the opponent on transition and come up with a great block, the player that will get you the steals.the player that will eventually spit on the opponent if all isn't going well..
you can continue..

Adon
08-24-2010, 06:47 AM
the player that will eventually spit on the opponent if all isn't going well..
you can continue..

From the deepest desires often come the deadliest hate.
Socrates

Picek!!! You naughty Greek lover:D

g.g
08-24-2010, 09:27 AM
From the deepest desires often come the deadliest hate.
Socrates

Picek!!! You naughty Greek lover:Dthat was masterpiece :):):)

CG
08-24-2010, 11:21 AM
From the deepest desires often come the deadliest hate.
Socrates

Picek!!! You naughty Greek lover:D

you must be confused
naughty remote vacation island February seeker grecofobiac:D

Adon
08-24-2010, 12:20 PM
you must be confused
naughty remote vacation island February seeker grecofobiac:D

Now,I am confused.Mykonos island,Super Paradise,sun burned on Feb naughty guy is Picek? :eek:

CG
08-24-2010, 12:30 PM
Now,I am confused.Mykonos island,Super Paradise,sun burned on Feb naughty guy is Picek? :eek:

no no no brother
his favorite destination are
Tobacco Islands:D
ask him;)

Panathinaikos Athens
08-24-2010, 12:32 PM
no no no brother
his favorite destination are
Tobacco Islands:D
ask him;)

The favourite island of Roy Tarpley :D

CG
08-24-2010, 12:35 PM
The favourite island of Roy Tarpley :D

and his majesty

Red 7
08-24-2010, 01:25 PM
Sofo and Bourousis were never the key players for Greek NT. So even if they won't participate to the WC that wont be a disaster for Greece.

Don't forget that our most value player, D.Diamantidis didn't make it out for the Eurobasket of 2009 and Greece won the Bronze medal with out him.

Greece has got many good players and can substitute almost anyone.

But as far as we know according to the Greek media, both players will play sofo & Bourousis.

Are you saying that Sofo was not pivotal to our success (bronze medal) last year? And bourousis too? Did you see the games? Do you watch basketball at all??

Diamantidis is the shadow of a player that he was in the previous years. Potential success of this Greek team will not depend on Diamantidis... I am sure of this.

Red 7
08-24-2010, 01:29 PM
So i believe that if he wont play, Vougioukas can do the job and fill the gap of his loss.

OK - take your green glasses off..... are you seriously even comparing Bourousis with Vougioukas? Bourousis has consistently performed well on the highest level in the past years. And you are saying that the Greek NT will be more complete with a player that has hardly proved himself yet?????? Coach C even spoke of Bourousis with very high regard.... seriously dude... wake up.

Panathinaikos Athens
08-24-2010, 01:43 PM
Red 7 you are facing a huge problem with your red glasses.
I never said that Sofo or Borousis are not good players. Or that Vougioukas is better than Borousis.

All i said is that YES Diamantidis would be a heavy loss. But the Greek NT is so good and there is so much talent to the players that they can substitute almost anyone.
And i remind you that we won the Bronze medal with out Diamantidis. Also we won silver medal in 05 with out Borousi. Sofo played few games in 05 WC and he wasn't our main center.

So where are my green glasses? I do support basketball not Panathinaikos. Panathinaikos is just the team i support.

Today our main center is Borousis not Shortsianitis.

Alvertis4
08-24-2010, 02:00 PM
the player that will eventually spit on the opponent if all isn't going well..
you can continue..

he spit on the guy after stealing the ball from Teodosic and scoring a basket that made the score 9-0 :rolleyes:

He was punched in the stomach, 1 minute after he was elbowed once and pushed away another time with no foul called by the same person, Tedosic.

Is that what you mean by not going well? :eek:

Apparently it's your loved one that had this "all isn't going well" situation

Red 7
08-24-2010, 02:12 PM
Red 7 you are facing a huge problem with your red glasses.
I never said that Sofo or Borousis are not good players. Or that Vougioukas is better than Borousis.

All i said is that YES Diamantidis would be a heavy loss. But the Greek NT is so good and there is so much talent to the players that they can substitute almost anyone.
And i remind you that we won the Bronze medal with out Diamantidis. Also we won silver medal in 05 with out Borousi. Sofo played few games in 05 WC and he wasn't our main center.

So where are my green glasses? I do support basketball not Panathinaikos. Panathinaikos is just the team i support.

Today our main center is Borousis not Shortsianitis.

OK, you also said that Sofo and Bourousis were never key players of our NT. That is where I'm disagreeing with you. Sofo in 2006 was a very key player on our road to the final, and Bourousis for the past two years has been the starting center of Greece... so yes he is a key player...

In 2005 we won Gold in Belgrade.. and yes Bourousis was in the 12 players (although he never really played :p )

You were saying that Bourousis does not play as a pivot center... he has really improved on his pivoting in the past 1.5 years though! And Sofo only pivots to the extent that he becomes predictable.

As with your statement that we have the quality to be able to replace a few absences I agree to a certain extent... Players like Spanoulis, Sofo, Bourousis, Fotsis I think are not that easily replaceable.

Also, you said that Diamantidis is our most valuable player.. a statement that I don't agree with right now... two years ago I would have agreed with you.. but not now.

Guard
08-24-2010, 02:17 PM
Intresting to see the bookmakers have Greece-USA a the favourite to be the Final on this WC..........

Red 7
08-24-2010, 02:19 PM
Serbia
spain
usa
argentina

Panathinaikos Athens
08-24-2010, 02:35 PM
Diamantidis even when he don't score he play good defence. He can create for others and he has good passing abilities. All these things make him so necessary for Greek NT.

I would prefer to play with out Spanoulis instead of Diamantidis and that has nothing to do with what team i support.

Red 7
08-24-2010, 02:42 PM
Diamantidis even when he don't score he play good defence. He can create for others and he has good passing abilities. All these things make him so necessary for Greek NT.

I would prefer to play with out Spanoulis instead of Diamantidis and that has nothing to do with what team i support.

But it was spanoulis who on his own won the bronze medal for greece last summer... do you think that Diamantidis today could offer the same??

Panathinaikos Athens
08-24-2010, 02:45 PM
But it was spanoulis who on his own won the bronze medal for greece last summer... do you think that Diamantidis today could offer the same??

I don't care if will be Spanoulis or Diamantidis as long as we win.
But if i was a coach and i had to choose one of them i would choose for Diamantidis. That's all i say.

Hopefully for us we have both. :D

Alvertis4
08-24-2010, 02:54 PM
Diamantidis cannot win games on his own, because his main strength is not offense.

Diamantidis can guarantee you that Greece will not concede more than 70 points per game (with the right formula always)
It's not his job to score 20-25 pts per game. His job is to be a great defensive presence against the main scoring threats of the opposition(who usually are guards or swingmen) and create for his teammates. If he's free for a three, he's shown us that he can do it and that's how we won the 2005 gold really.

Spanoulis' only great thing is his drive to the basket. His long range efforts are not better than Diamantidis. Diamantidis knows when to shoot, Spanoulis just shoots because he thinks he can make it. I'm not denying that this has paid off a lot of times, but you'll rarely see Diamantidis hit an airball which is not the case with Spanoulis.
And Spanoulis is usually a liability in defense, specially when Diamantidis pairs him up front in a zonal defense, or even being the first line of defense in a man-to-man defense.

Both are equally good in the pick & roll, can't decide on who's better, but Diamantidis' decision making is essential for any team, while Spanoulis lacks that skill (aka lots of turnovers)

They are not players you can compare with eachother.

The only interesting "matchup" I want to see is Calathes Vs Rubio. I think Calathes has performed a lot better than Rubio in the friendlies so far, and the game vs the USA is going to be the decisive moment. Rubio did very well vs USA, let's hope Calathes will do as well.
And I'm pretty sure that Calathes will have a better World Championship than Rubio, but it all goes down to luck and the fact that Calathes has strong competition, while Rubio is alone since Navarro is usually the 2nd guard.

Justin in AZ
08-24-2010, 03:56 PM
I am very excited to see Greece-USA, and am happy to see Calethes, as a former Floriday Gator, and that is my home state.

I think Greek team will win, because their strength is exactly the USA weakness. We will see how the USA coaching staff plays defense against the penetration and pick-n-roll game of Greece.

After seeing them give up so many layups and dunks to Lithuania and Spain, I am not confident they can stop the Greeks.

Picek
08-24-2010, 06:08 PM
he spit on the guy after stealing the ball from Teodosic and scoring a basket that made the score 9-0 :rolleyes:

He was punched in the stomach, 1 minute after he was elbowed once and pushed away another time with no foul called by the same person, Tedosic.

Is that what you mean by not going well? :eek:

Apparently it's your loved one that had this "all isn't going well" situationyou seem to forget he also spit on Golemac..
I guess he doesn't like guys from ex yugoslavia..
spitting once on a player could be bad temper and nervousness..
spitting twice on a player is a matter of idiotism..

SG-
08-24-2010, 09:38 PM
USA
Spain
Greece
Serbia/Lithuania

Alvertis4
08-24-2010, 09:55 PM
you seem to forget he also spit on Golemac..
I guess he doesn't like guys from ex yugoslavia..
spitting once on a player could be bad temper and nervousness..
spitting twice on a player is a matter of idiotism..

You just said it yourself.

Once on Teodosic after 4 hits, one right before the spit incident(punch in stomach)
Once on Golemac (don't remember how the incident went)

Teodosic is a rare breed of as$h0les though

Ilya
08-24-2010, 10:09 PM
I think the only two countries certain to make it to the semis are Spain and the USA.

The other two teams could be anyone among Serbia, Argentina, Greece, Turkey and Lithuania. (My votes going to Serbia and Greece).

Visseira
08-26-2010, 08:24 PM
Serbia
Brazil
USA
Spain