King Abdullah II 2011 Friendly Tournament [July 21-27, Jordan]

[mavrick_h]

Confirmed teams for now are

Jordan
Tunisia
Palestine
Belarus
Lebanon (spare team lol)
Egypt
Kuwait
Algeria

pics from the court here (http://www.alv.jo/KingAbdullahIIBasketballtournament2008.aspx)

Past Winners:
2002: KSA
2003: Egypt
2004: Jordan
2005: Lebanon
2006: Al-Riyadi (Lebanon)
2007: Tunisia
2008: Tunisia


Group1: Jordan, Lebanon, Algeria, Kuwait
Group2: Belarus, Palestine, Tunis, Egypt

Schedule:

Thursday 21 July
15:00 Egypt - Palestine
18:00 Jordan - Lebanon
20:00 Kuwait - Algeria

[gazara]

Lebanese National Team Roster for King Abdullah II 2011 Tournament :

Coach: Ghassan Sarkis (LEB)
ASS Coach: Marwan Khalil (LEB)

List of players traveling to Jordan:

-Rodrigue Akl (188-PG)
-Miguel Martinez(188-PG)
-Mohammad Ibrahim (195-PG)
-Elie Estephan (195-SG/SF)
-Elie Rustom (198-SF)
-Aboudi Al Farekh (201-PF)
-Ghaleb Rida (192-SG) [Captain]
-Ali Haidar (202-PF)
-Ali Kanaan(206-C)
-Roy Smeha(206-C)
-Nadim Hawi(205-C)
-Jad Bitar (205-C)



I think from this roster :Rodrigue Akl ,Mohammad Ibrahim ,Stehan Elie ,Restom Elie ,Ghaleb Rida ,Ali Kanaan will make it to the Final roster ,final 12 !!

In This roster , i think we can t win over Tunisia ,Jordan ,and Egypt if they have A Teams !! other these we will win it all
We want to See how our team will fit !!

[leb-basket]

We are participating with a whole new team and a different roster from the one who is supposed to play the asian championship. I don't see this as gd preparations but might be useful for our youth players...

[daniab]

from following the practices everyday, i can assure to you that this team is gonna shock everyone and will have a descent level and suprising results!
im gonna say that Rodrigue Akl will start as a pg, with Elie Rustom and Ghaleb on 2-3, while Ali Kanaan will play the 4 and Roy Samaha the 5!
For sure, we cant beat Tunisia, they have a great team and so for Jordan, although im sure we're gonna stay close with the host, specially if we r in our best day!
Go Lebanon!

[golebanon]

We are participating with a whole new team and a different roster from the one who is supposed to play the asian championship. I don't see this as gd preparations but might be useful for our youth players...

At least we're having some changes on our team,the youngsters can have some international contact,thus improving their confidence and experience,plus discovering the good talents.
By the way do you know if this tournament is televised?

[leb-basket]

from following the practices everyday, i can assure to you that this team is gonna shock everyone and will have a descent level and suprising results!
im gonna say that Rodrigue Akl will start as a pg, with Elie Rustom and Ghaleb on 2-3, while Ali Kanaan will play the 4 and Roy Samaha the 5!
For sure, we cant beat Tunisia, they have a great team and so for Jordan, although im sure we're gonna stay close with the host, specially if we r in our best day!
Go Lebanon!

dani don't u think that we have a prob on pos 4 ? i mean i don't see kanaan nor any of the other players with all due my respect as starters while playing vs tunisia, iran, china, south korea ...

[golebanon]

from following the practices everyday, i can assure to you that this team is gonna shock everyone and will have a descent level and suprising results!
im gonna say that Rodrigue Akl will start as a pg, with Elie Rustom and Ghaleb on 2-3, while Ali Kanaan will play the 4 and Roy Samaha the 5!
For sure, we cant beat Tunisia, they have a great team and so for Jordan, although im sure we're gonna stay close with the host, specially if we r in our best day!
Go Lebanon!

That's good news,i hope that our pure lebanese team can give their maximum effort and prove that the lebanese basketball is still one of the best in asia.
Keep it up Dani,we need your updates.

[daniab]

dani don't u think that we have a prob on pos 4 ? i mean i don't see kanaan nor any of the other players with all due my respect as starters while playing vs tunisia, iran, china, south korea ...

we will have Charles and William Pharis later as a 4, and maybe Daniel Faris will join who knows? ;)

[daniab]

That's good news,i hope that our pure lebanese team can give their maximum effort and prove that the lebanese basketball is still one of the best in asia.
Keep it up Dani,we need your updates.

thank you, Rodrigue Miguel Ghaleb Ali Haidar and Elie Rustom are showing a really great level, they have been all working really well on their bodies, and u will kinda see a new type of Rustom, more physical and explosive!
Ghaleb is been shooting with eyes closed, Haidar is very promising,and Miguel is playing very comfortable and intelligent!
Now, the one who is grabbing the attention is Aboudy El Farekh, 6'8 forward 18 years, he is playing the 3, cant miss an open shot, still soft a bit but really really talented and promising! he is by the way very very close to the style of Aidin Bahram (RIP), former Iran NT star!

[leb-basket]

we will have Charles and William Pharis later as a 4, and maybe Daniel Faris will join who knows? ;)

He must join else it would be a big problem! We don't have a backup for Samb ! moreover i dt like it when players decide to join one month before the tournament!
Ba3den what type of preparation is this ? where are the camps and the europian friendly tournaments! i have never seen such an unprofessional federation ! come on they forgot to confirm their participation ??

[leb-basket]

thank you, Rodrigue Miguel Ghaleb Ali Haidar and Elie Rustom are showing a really great level, they have been all working really well on their bodies, and u will kinda see a new type of Rustom, more physical and explosive!
Ghaleb is been shooting with eyes closed, Haidar is very promising,and Miguel is playing very comfortable and intelligent!
Now, the one who is grabbing the attention is Aboudy El Farekh, 6'8 forward 18 years, he is playing the 3, cant miss an open shot, still soft a bit but really really talented and promising! he is by the way very very close to the style of Aidin Bahram (RIP), former Iran NT star!

that's gd news dani thanks! i am really glad to see tall players playing on 3 such as ali haidar, aboudi el ferkh, matt freije and hassan chamseddine (sagesse abroad ) hopefully they will all join the league next year

[golebanon]

thank you, Rodrigue Miguel Ghaleb Ali Haidar and Elie Rustom are showing a really great level, they have been all working really well on their bodies, and u will kinda see a new type of Rustom, more physical and explosive!
Ghaleb is been shooting with eyes closed, Haidar is very promising,and Miguel is playing very comfortable and intelligent!
Now, the one who is grabbing the attention is Aboudy El Farekh, 6'8 forward 18 years, he is playing the 3, cant miss an open shot, still soft a bit but really really talented and promising! he is by the way very very close to the style of Aidin Bahram (RIP), former Iran NT star!

Do you think that ali Haidar or Aboudy can make it to the final 12 or it's just a training to make them gain some confidence?

[SOLO]

Hey my Lebanese Friends .... you are as usual making the Topics Active :)
I think that participating with this Lebanese Team is useless for the preparations ... it's good to give a chance for youngsters as a preparation for the Future but it can't give an aid preparing for FIBA Asia .......
Well , for Jordan , our NT is leaving to Belarus for a Friendly Tournament there along with Belarus , Lithuania and Cyprus 15-17 July then King Abdullah cup ... still we have problems like your NT (la teshkeely le ebkeelek) but the federation is trying their best to solve them .... Ayman Idais back and won'T retire til finishing FIBA Asia , Same for Zaid Alkhas .... Rasheim Wright Money issue with Zain & ID Problems regarding Imad Qahwash n JAmal Abu Shamala which we wish to be solved soon ...... other than that we have some young talents but not that much to mention from them : Hani Faraj (20 Years) talented SG , Fares Saqf el Hait (23 Years Old) , Camille Gargour (20 Years old), Mahmoud Abdeen (PG) , Abu Shamala and Qahwash (24 years old) b, Mohammad Shaher (20 Years old) 213 CM ......
Good Luck for our National Teams .... despite having problems and specially lebanon who still don't have a Plan for this Summer !!!! and that is not healthy at all , you better care about that cause w/o a clear Plan .... your NT will be Lost again !

[daniab]

Do you think that ali Haidar or Aboudy can make it to the final 12 or it's just a training to make them gain some confidence?

man im sure he will add Aboudy or Ali to the final roster, thats how i see things! both of them r really good but they need time to gain confidence and exposure on the international scene!
The thing is that Coach Ghassan is not the type who loves bringing players for the sake of that, he wants every player to have his own role and contribution in the team!
I dont want to hear any more pessimism, who likes to stay down , let him do that on his own but now we have to be optimistic and to keep our heads up bcz THE CEDARS ARE COMING!!!

[SOLO]

Can anybody tell me about Lebanon NT's Preparation Plan for FIBA Asia !?
all what i know is King Abdullah Cup !

btw King Abdullah Cup will be broadcasted on more than 2 Channels , Midrar Sports Company is doing a Great Job in order to make this Edition as one of the best ...

[lebanese phoenix]

man im sure he will add Aboudy or Ali to the final roster, thats how i see things! both of them r really good but they need time to gain confidence and exposure on the international scene!
The thing is that Coach Ghassan is not the type who loves bringing players for the sake of that, he wants every player to have his own role and contribution in the team!
I dont want to hear any more pessimism, who likes to stay down , let him do that on his own but now we have to be optimistic and to keep our heads up bcz THE CEDARS ARE COMING!!!

Dany i honestly believe that if we step up we can win the whole thing;)
Jordan without wright and with coach Baldwin is beatable:p
as for Tunisia i think we can have a close game with them and maybe even snatch a win.
Rodrigue akl is one of the best PGs in this tournement for sure, as for our position 2 we have rustom and ghaleb who both are good, i dont know how much Ali haidar and abboudy can contribute to the team but i think they can be a great plus and i'm always optimistic when it comes to young players.
Ali kanaan will hold our defensive line, i think that we should settle for nothing less than competing on the title

[golebanon]

man im sure he will add Aboudy or Ali to the final roster, thats how i see things! both of them r really good but they need time to gain confidence and exposure on the international scene!
The thing is that Coach Ghassan is not the type who loves bringing players for the sake of that, he wants every player to have his own role and contribution in the team!
I dont want to hear any more pessimism, who likes to stay down , let him do that on his own but now we have to be optimistic and to keep our heads up bcz THE CEDARS ARE COMING!!!

Coach Ghassan is the best lebanese coach i've seen regarding his discovery of talents plus improving them,but the problem is that he never had the proper support,like camps which is somewhat slowing his rate of efficiency.Anyway i'm glad for our NT,he's the best to understand our players.
I wish him the best of luck,really a great coach.

[golebanon]

Can anybody tell me about Lebanon NT's Preparation Plan for FIBA Asia !?
all what i know is King Abdullah Cup !

btw King Abdullah Cup will be broadcasted on more than 2 Channels , Midrar Sports Company is doing a Great Job in order to make this Edition as one of the best ...

Nothing except for this tournament.
Our federation should take into consideration our participation in jones cup,otherwise we're in one tournament.

[SOLO]

Dany i honestly believe that if we step up we can win the whole thing;)
Jordan without wright and with coach Baldwin is beatable:p
as for Tunisia i think we can have a close game with them and maybe even snatch a win.
Rodrigue akl is one of the best PGs in this tournement for sure, as for our position 2 we have rustom and ghaleb who both are good, i dont know how much Ali haidar and abboudy can contribute to the team but i think they can be a great plus and i'm always optimistic when it comes to young players.
Ali kanaan will hold our defensive line, i think that we should settle for nothing less than competing on the title

teb give me a Break Dude !:rolleyes:
you talking about Coach Baldwin as he is the worst in the World ! if he did not succeed with your NT then it's not his problem that your players did not play well against New Zealand who sweeped your NT easily ! he succeeded in winning Canada in WC .... he got you Stankovic Cup ..... he reahed semi finals in world championship 2002 with New Zealand ; all these things make him a good Coach and he will prove it again with our National Team believe me :)

And we will lose against a National Team of KIDS and youngsters ! you think Jordan is India or What !!?? Stop acting like kids and ignoring the Power of others , go and fix your problems and have a t least a preparation plan for this Summer other than underestimating others and bla bla bla as usual !

[gazara]

Abboudi Al Farekh (201-SF/PF) is one of our top prospects ,he s very good player ,
Ahmad Ibrahim (199-SF) Next year will join the NT for sure ,he s the best but he s preparing for playing in his university RICE next to Arsalan Kazemi the Iranian Player ,
As for Top Lebanese Players ,I see the Duo Khatib-Abdel Nour will be the Dangerous Duo in all the asian Tournament ,Specially Khatib now is Free to Play ,Ghassan give him Everything to do on the court , u will not See Khatib like 2009 or 2010 Version u will see Khatib topscoring everygame !!

[SOLO]

Abboudi Al Farekh (201-SF/PF) is one of our top prospects ,he s very good player ,
Ahmad Ibrahim (199-SF) Next year will join the NT for sure ,he s the best but he s preparing for playing in his university RICE next to Arsalan Kazemi the Iranian Player ,
As for Top Lebanese Players ,I see the Duo Khatib-Abdel Nour will be the Dangerous Duo in all the asian Tournament ,Specially Khatib now is Free to Play ,Ghassan give him Everything to do on the court , u will not See Khatib like 2009 or 2010 Version u will see Khatib topscoring everygame !!

Good Luck for your Prospects , Fadi Khatib is the best player in Asia in his Position in the late 10 years (No Doubt about that) and ghassan sarkis will design his plans about Khatib and that has Positives and negatives .... it makes me mad when some other guys are not realisitc at all and underestimates other NTs while Lebanon still training with 10 players and has no plans at all !

For Jordan Rasheim is gonna join the National Team in Belarus und Ukraine , while Imad Qahwash's issue is almost solved , Jamal abu shamala's issue stil working on it ... these 3 guys in our NT are a big Bomb and Surprize adding to them Sam Daghlas , Ayman Idais , Zaid abbas, Enver soobzokov , Muosa Awadi ..... inshalla we will have a roster of 12 ready players .... Baldwin is giving the chance for everybody to prove himslef on the court and that is so healthy ...... in FIBA Asia we will have inshalla this Roster :

Sam Daghlas (Imad Qahwash/Wesam Sous/Mahmoud Abdeen)
Rasheim Wright (Enver Soobzokov)
Mousa Awadi (Mohammad Hamdan/Jamal Abu Shamala?)
Zaid Abbas (Ali Jamal/Islam Abbas)
Ayman Idais (Mohammad Shaher/Ibrahim Bassam)
:D

[daniab]

Imad Qahwash gonna be a big joke, mark my words!

[SOLO]

Wallah seeems that your whole NT gonna be a Big Joke !
remark my Words ;)

[daniab]

Wallah seeems that your whole NT gonna be a Big Joke !
remark my Words ;)

maybe this is ur opinion and i cant but to respect it, but i advise you to stop this level of posts, and talk basketball!
Imad is a rookie, all this hype abt him means u have a very poor understanding for the game, and your just hopeless abt a player who was redshirted for 2 years, until he was given the chance to play in his senior year!
Jamal is a fine player, he has been playing for 4 years on a great program with Minnesota university!

[daniab]

Now,let me explain, no one is understimating Jordan or anyone else, on contrary the Jordanian team is really competitive and they r really favorite to make a good show!
And i based on my previous comment on excluding Rasheim who wasnt sure yet to come!

[SOLO]

maybe this is ur opinion and i cant but to respect it, but i advise you to stop this level of posts, and talk basketball!
Imad is a rookie, all this hype abt him means u have a very poor understanding for the game, and your just hopeless abt a player who was redshirted for 2 years, until he was given the chance to play in his senior year!
Jamal is a fine player, he has been playing for 4 years on a great program with Minnesota university!

Okay let's say he is a Joke and not good as u say , in his position we have 3 Good Guards : Sam Daghlas, Wesam Sous and Mahmoud Abdeen even Rasheim can do the Guard .... So No problem then :)
The most important now to get Rasheim back as he is the Scorer of the NT , adding to him Abu Shamala for the Future (24 years old only) ..... let Sam , Zaid Abbas and Ayman Idais repeat 2009's Massacre :)

[lebanese phoenix]

teb give me a Break Dude !:rolleyes:
you talking about Coach Baldwin as he is the worst in the World ! if he did not succeed with your NT then it's not his problem that your players did not play well against New Zealand who sweeped your NT easily ! he succeeded in winning Canada in WC .... he got you Stankovic Cup ..... he reahed semi finals in world championship 2002 with New Zealand ; all these things make him a good Coach and he will prove it again with our National Team believe me :)

And we will lose against a National Team of KIDS and youngsters ! you think Jordan is India or What !!?? Stop acting like kids and ignoring the Power of others , go and fix your problems and have a t least a preparation plan for this Summer other than underestimating others and bla bla bla as usual !

let me say that it was not Baldwin who got us the game against Canada...it was el khatib with his 31 points;)
Baldwin in the next games and specially in the game against new zealand didint give el khatib the scoring role and completly changed the system in favor of new zealand, that's why we got screwed

2nd what's wrong with me stating that Jordan is beatable ? are you underestimating Rodrigue akl and Rustom ? well let me tell you that you're gona be very shocked when you see your Douglas getting schooled by Akl ;)
All i said is that Jordan is very beatable specially with the absence of wright, come on you're not China or Iran to need abdel nour and el khatib to beat you, plus your stars have all grown old and we all saw zeid abbas' performance in the arab cup, 4 pts against el khatib:p + foul out
If you're thinking that Jordan's gona have an easy ride to the cup then you're in for a big shock, trust me:rolleyes:

[mavrick_h]

@SOLO all the guys saying is that a group of kids can upset big teams in a friendly tournament

[SOLO]

let me say that it was not Baldwin who got us the game against Canada...it was el khatib with his 31 points;)
Baldwin in the next games and specially in the game against new zealand didint give el khatib the scoring role and completly changed the system in favor of new zealand, that's why we got screwed

2nd what's wrong with me stating that Jordan is beatable ? are you underestimating Rodrigue akl and Rustom ? well let me tell you that you're gona be very shocked when you see your Douglas getting schooled by Akl ;)
All i said is that Jordan is very beatable specially with the absence of wright, come on you're not China or Iran to need abdel nour and el khatib to beat you, plus your stars have all grown old and we all saw zeid abbas' performance in the arab cup, 4 pts against el khatib:p + foul out
If you're thinking that Jordan's gona have an easy ride to the cup then you're in for a big shock, trust me:rolleyes:

Court will judge believe me ! you kept saying that in 2009 and you got screwed 3 times in a row EASILY :D
Khatib himslef played like Shit in 2009 FIBA Asia and he is back now , same for Zaid Abbas , he will get back and prove himslef and our Daghlas will teach your Akl what is Basketball !getting the title is our latest Goal in all the compeitions we play this Summer .... all we care about is FIBA Asia Championship nothing else and we gonna grab at least a Card to Pre Olympics nbext Year if not more ;)
Again Court Will Judge !

[daniab]

guys all this talk is ridiculous, lets enjoy the summer :D
Jordan beated us 2 years ago, and we beat them in 2000-2001-2002-2003-2004-2005-2006-2007-2008 and 2010 loool

[leb-basket]

come on guys let's not act like we did back in 2009. Gd luck for both teams, we are sill in preparation period. Winning over jordan in this friendly tournament doesn't mean we are going to beat them in asia and vice versa. We have a team of youngsters whom some might be stressed once they get the chance to play on court in front of jordanian stars. That doesn't mean as well that the latter is better than us but experience will definitely play a big role to success.
We have a totally new and young roster who might prove that we are able to shine without the aid of big names (same as lithuania did in the last WC edition)

[SOLO]

guys all this talk is ridiculous, lets enjoy the summer :D
Jordan beated us 2 years ago, and we beat them in 2000-2001-2002-2003-2004-2005-2006-2007-2008 and 2010 loool

na sounds good that your history is 10 years only LOL :rolleyes:
2009's Summer will be Back haha

[Khalid80]

Relax guys :cool:

At the end of the day this is a friendly tournament and both teams are still at the early stages of their preparation for the Asian Championship.... So whoever wins this doesn't mean much for the time being.

The important thing is that we try to gain as much chemistry and play the different systems that coach Ghassan is trying to implement for the team... We also have to take into fact that without Jean and Fadi in the lineup it will be interesting to see who can we rely on for scoring as this is will be an issue imo...

[lebanese phoenix]

na sounds good that your history is 10 years only LOL :rolleyes:
2009's Summer will be Back haha

man for God's sake if you dont have a present it's really pityful to talk about your history, sure Jordan also had a great dinosaur hunting team in the stone age but where are they now:D
history means nothing if you dont have a present, it's only good for bedtime stories, i know that Jordan basketball back in the 60s was good in asia although it never was able to get any medal, but what matters now is the present.
Look at the philipines they once dominated the asian basketball scene and were also powerhouses on the world scene, but where are they now?
Wether or not it's gona be 2009 all over again is anybody's guess but from what it seems basketball has been greatly regressing in Jordan over the past two years, we all saw how ASU got humiliated recently, whereas lebanese basketball is on the rise, Riyadi being the asian champs and us having a decent lebanese league amongst the top 3 in asia.
Let's just wish eachother luck and hope for the best, it's gona be an intresting tournement for both teams and will be a chance for the young lebanese players to proove themselves in the hopes of securing a place in the final roster, as for our Jordanian brothers,it'll be a chance to proove their worth without their star scorer Rasheim Wright who carried the team on his shoulders to the WC in 2009.
it's gona be a very intresting tournement and i predict a lebanese-jordanian final

[daniab]

Lebanese phoenix, if Jordan has 10% of what Philippines achieved before, i would have shutted down my mouth and accepted that fact but what history does Jordan have in basketball?
u mentioned they were strong in asia which is not true, let me know what was their best position they had and if they any medals?
and let me remind you that Lebanon also took the bronze medal in Arab Championship 1974 in Iraq, before the country went in a mess!

Asian Clubs championship 4 times champions ---- 1 for Jordan
Arab clubs championship 8 times champions --- 1 for jordan
World Cup for clubs 1 time ---- 0 for jordan
Waba Clubs championship 5 times champions --- 0 for Jordan
Waba championship for NT 2 times champions --- 0 for Jordan
Asian Championship 3 times silver medals --- 1 bronze medal for Jordan
World cup for NTs 3 times in a row --- 1 for Jordan
there is no even close comparaison btw both countries and what they had achieved in the asian scene, thank u!

[SOLO]

Lebanese phoenix, if Jordan has 10% of what Philippines achieved before, i would have shutted down my mouth and accepted that fact but what history does Jordan have in basketball? loool
u mentioned they were strong in asia which is not true, let me know what was their best position they had and if they any medals?
and let me remind you that Lebanon also took the bronze medal in Arab Championship 1974 in Iraq, before the country went in a mess!

Asian Clubs championship 4 times champions ---- 1 for Jordan
Arab clubs championship 8 times champions --- 1 for jordan
World Cup for clubs 1 time ---- 0 for jordan
Waba Clubs championship 5 times champions --- 0 for Jordan
Waba championship for NT 2 times champions --- 0 for Jordan
Asian Championship 3 times silver medals --- 1 bronze medal for Jordan
World cup for NTs 3 times in a row --- 1 for Jordan
there is no even close comparaison btw both countries and what they had achieved in the asian scene, thank u!

what do u know about Jordanian Sport to judge it and say that your Basketball achieved more than our Sports in General !!!??
Don't enter Philipinnes in the Discusion coz they have nothing to do with this nonsense !

you keep saying don'T talk about History and now you talking about it !! it'S really Funny .... end of Discussion : Court Will Judge and we will sweep ypur NT again n again don't worry !

[SOLO]

man for God's sake if you dont have a present it's really pityful to talk about your history, sure Jordan also had a great dinosaur hunting team in the stone age but where are they now:D
history means nothing if you dont have a present, it's only good for bedtime stories, i know that Jordan basketball back in the 60s was good in asia although it never was able to get any medal, but what matters now is the present.
Look at the philipines they once dominated the asian basketball scene and were also powerhouses on the world scene, but where are they now?
Wether or not it's gona be 2009 all over again is anybody's guess but from what it seems basketball has been greatly regressing in Jordan over the past two years, we all saw how ASU got humiliated recently, whereas lebanese basketball is on the rise, Riyadi being the asian champs and us having a decent lebanese league amongst the top 3 in asia.
Let's just wish eachother luck and hope for the best, it's gona be an intresting tournement for both teams and will be a chance for the young lebanese players to proove themselves in the hopes of securing a place in the final roster, as for our Jordanian brothers,it'll be a chance to proove their worth without their star scorer Rasheim Wright who carried the team on his shoulders to the WC in 2009.
it's gona be a very intresting tournement and i predict a lebanese-jordanian final

you talking about Champville game in Arab Clubs !! it'S rediculous honestly and proves your Poor Knowledge in Basketball ...

Good Luck for Lebanese NT .... Court Will Judge bbye

[leb-basket]

you talking about Champville game in Arab Clubs !! it'S rediculous honestly and proves your Poor Knowledge in Basketball ...

Good Luck for Lebanese NT .... Court Will Judge bbye

we can't actually talk about champville since they played with their junior team vs ASU bcz of previous cheating.
Again guys let's just not get over confident as usual and let's wish both teams luck since none of us is actually selecting the right track ,,,

[daniab]

habibi Omar, i respect the Jordanian basketball more than u can ever imagine and i used to root for ur teams beside my team always, but u always come from behind and change the subject although i just stated is MY OPINION that our young team can do well and if u read again i didnt mention we will beat you :D i just said we have a shot to upset u or keep the game close!
while all what u wrote is massacres and whatsoever hehe, there's nothing to fight abt!
share with us some منسف to cool down the atmosphere what do u say? :D

[SOLO]

habibi Omar, i respect the Jordanian basketball more than u can ever imagine and i used to root for ur teams beside my team always, but u always come from behind and change the subject although i just stated is MY OPINION that our young team can do well and if u read again i didnt mention we will beat you :D i just said we have a shot to upset u or keep the game close!
while all what u wrote is massacres and whatsoever hehe, there's nothing to fight abt!
share with us some منسف to cool down the atmosphere what do u say? :D

First of all am not habibek , second my name is solaiman ... you keep changing the subject as usual .... i was talking with gazara abut our talents and yours and u came saying that imad qahwash is a joke !!! where have u seen him playing !? if he was redshirted then it's due to his bad studying performance and has nothing to do with Basketball :)

You are Dreaming of beating Jordan , and this Dream won'T come true either with your YOUNG PROSPECTS or with your Full ROSTER , that's Confidence not Arrogance :D

about Mansaf , I love Tabooleh More so we share Mansaf and Tabooleh together No Problems !

[lebanese phoenix]

[QUOTE=SOLO;601122]]
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of course you do, as us lebanese are also better at cooking:p (kidding)
anyways, we'll let the court be the judge;)
we will reopen this discussion after this tournement is over

[gazara]

guys keep it down ,always the same shit !
both have big teams and both will compete ,and gd luck for Both teams
Now for King Abdallah tournament ,Solo do u know if the tourney will be broadcasted ?? and wich channel ??

Michael Southall (210-C)(USA) Will be tested in King Abdallah Tourney to be the new Naturalized Player for Lebanon !

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[SOLO]

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##King Abdullah Cup Schedule & Groups##
Group1: Jordan, Lebanon, Algeria, Kuwait
Group2: Belarus, Palestine, Tunis, Egypt
Tip off Game : Thursday, July 21, 18:00 Jordan - Lebanon

[golebanon]

##King Abdullah Cup Schedule & Groups##
Group1: Jordan, Lebanon, Algeria, Kuwait
Group2: Belarus, Palestine, Tunis, Egypt
Tip off Game : Thursday, July 21, 18:00 Jordan - Lebanon

Solo,do you have the final 12 of the Jordanian NT?
I'll be waiting for this game,it'll be a good oppurtunity to test our new NT players.

[SOLO]

Solo,do you have the final 12 of the Jordanian NT?
I'll be waiting for this game,it'll be a good oppurtunity to test our new NT players.

ٍStill nothing clear about the final 12 of Jordan in this cup but from those who went to Belarus will see them also in this Cup :

Sam Daghlas, Wesam Al-Sous, Mahmoud Abdeen, Ayman Idais, Zaid Abbas, Ali Jamal, Mohammad Shaher, Abdullah Abo Quora, Muosa Awadi, Khaldoun Abu Ruqayyah, Fares Saqf el Hait........add to them Enver Soobzokov, Zaid Alkhas,Imad Qahwash (may be), Islam Abbas(if he is fit after Injury),Rasheim ( Impossible), Ibrahim Bassam, Hani El Faraj

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HRH Prince Hamza Hall (7000 Seat)
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[Le MaK]

na sounds good that your history is 10 years only LOL :rolleyes:
2009's Summer will be Back haha

I'm not the type to join a discussion on this forum, but i enjoy reading some interesting comments, and fewer IQless replies, behaving with the AI attitude!
Solo, Soleiman , omar or whatever your real name is, it makes no dif...
I'v noticed after reading several comments, that u started deffending your National team and ur basketball in general by reminding us with the PAST... but u reached a point where u realized that your past is considered Dust compared to ours... So you went running asking help from your Present, that without the help of any of the guys, you realized by urself that it doesn't excist !
But the funniest thing by far, is that ur replying on ur future to deffend your point of view?

We are the Cedars!

[daniab]

jordan were lucky to meet us in first day when we still haven't played yet any game while they did around 6-7 games btw waba and belarus tournament but still im keeping my fingers crossed for our cedars team!

GO LEBANON!

[mvblair]

Why do you guys get so mad at each other? I understand a little rivalry, but let's just be cool with each other. InterBasket.Net isn't a great place for yelling and "chest pounding." We all want our team to win, but we can still be respectful to each other. Let's close this thread for a little while until we calm down.

[Khalid80]

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[mavrick_h]

guys really keep it cool no need for those comments and insults it's just a tournament and look at the title a friendly one :D

[daniab]

Lebanon's roster for King Abdullah tournament:

PG
Rodrigue Akl (189-1988)
Miguel Martinez (188-1988)
Moe Ibrahim (192- 1983)

SG/SF
Elie Estephan (191- 1986)
Ghaleb Reda (192- 1981)
Karam Mechref (186 - 1992)
Abboudy El Farekh (199 - 1993)

PF/C
Ali Haidar (202 - 1990)
Nadim Hawi (204- 1983)
Roy Samaha (206- 1984)
Ali kanaan (206- 1985)
Michael Southall (210- 1982)

Coach: Ghassan Sarkis
Assistants: Marwan khalil - Charbel Dib - koko krikorian

[lebanese phoenix]

Lebanon's roster for King Abdullah tournament:

PG
Rodrigue Akl (189-1988)
Miguel Martinez (188-1988)
Moe Ibrahim (192- 1983)

SG/SF
Elie Estephan (191- 1986)
Ghaleb Reda (192- 1981)
Karam Mechref (186 - 1992)
Abboudy El Farekh (199 - 1993)

PF/C
Ali Haidar (202 - 1990)
Nadim Hawi (204- 1983)
Roy Samaha (206- 1984)
Ali kanaan (206- 1985)
Michael Southall (210- 1982)

Coach: Ghassan Sarkis
Assistants: Marwan khalil - Charbel Dib - koko krikorian

dany who do you think will play the 3 ?
bcs looking at the names i can see no pure 3,maybe abboudi but he's too young, adding to that ali haidar is more of a 4 and reda and stephan being pure 2s

[mavrick_h]

did Rustom recover from his back injury ?

[daniab]

From following the practices daily this is my best roster:

1- Rodrigue Akl (just doing great, i believe its gonna one of his best tournaments ever if he keeps playing at the same rhythm)
2- Elie Estephan (very good shooter if he calms down a little bit, he somehow focus on getting the shot and not the shot itself but for sure he's gonna be our best weapon in this tournament)
3-Ghaleb Reda (imo our most experienced player, although Goach Ghassan dished him up for being selfish in one of the practices, but he's our best player)!
4- Ali kanaan (not the best offensive player, but always does his job very well, specially on the defensive side)
5-Roy Samaha (since i doubt Coach Ghassan will start with Mike southall, Roy is the best option available on pos 5)

[daniab]

did Rustom recover from his back injury ?

no still need 2 weeks

[khaledlebanon]

no still need 2 weeks

hey dani, any info about Tabet & Daniel Faris situations?

will they join the NT?
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Fadi,Jean,AliM & Rustom should be available in august right?

one more Q? who are the other options for Position 5?
Woods? Watkins?
personally i prefer Woods, he already knows the lebanese player, mde a big job with riyadi especially on the defence, & this is what we need for asia, i know he is 32 BUT he is the best option imo.. we can search for new young center after Asia 2011!

[Le MaK]

hey dani, any info about Tabet & Daniel Faris situations?

will they join the NT?
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Fadi,Jean,AliM & Rustom should be available in august right?

one more Q? who are the other options for Position 5?
Woods? Watkins?
personally i prefer Woods, he already knows the lebanese player, mde a big job with riyadi especially on the defence, & this is what we need for asia, i know he is 32 BUT he is the best option imo.. we can search for new young center after Asia 2011!

Tabet will be here in 10 days , as for Daniel Faris from what i know, he won't join the NT !
as for the names you asked for, they will probably join late august :)
and yes Watkins and woods are options to be nationalized, but Watkins has more % For ghassan sarkis !

[mavrick_h]

last checked Daniel Faris is not injured and he's making excuses to not play with the NT.

i think it's better if we forget him and concentrate more on our available options.

[wilo22]

Rodrigue Akl (PG) is the new national team captain in King Abdullah Tournement

[mavrick_h]

End of 1st

25-21 for Lebanon

[Grimjow]

Anyone can tell what was the starting line-up? And how are you people watching it?

[mavrick_h]

Anyone can tell what was the starting line-up? And how are you people watching it?

it was Rodrig, Elie, Ghaleb, Ali Haidar & Nadim

Ro'Ya TV on nilesat

[SOLO]

Jordan (81)-(60) Lebanon

Best Scorers : Zaid Abbas (17) , Ghaleb Rida (17) , Khaldoun Abu Rukayyah (13)

Practice Game for Jordan Bench , Lebanon had a good Game without their Key Player Fadi El-Khatib

[lebanese NT]

Jordan (81)-(60) Lebanon

Best Scorers : Zaid Abbas (17) , Ghaleb Rida (17) , Khaldoun Abu Rukayyah (13)

Practice Game for Jordan Bench , Lebanon had a good Game without their Key Player Fadi El-Khatib

looool :D u mean without their key players fadi el khatib, jean abdelnour, ali mahmoud, elie rostoum etc. and actually it was a practice game to the bench of our bench lol whom most of them wont reach the final roster that will be playing in asia in september

[SOLO]

looool :D u mean without their key players fadi el khatib, jean abdelnour, ali mahmoud, elie rostoum etc. and actually it was a practice game to the bench of our bench lol whom most of them wont reach the final roster that will be playing in asia in september

Look who starts Problems !?
Your whole NT is based on Fadi El-Khatib No body can deny this Fact and let's see when he retires what gonna happen ! without him your NT is ZERO with all due Respect :rolleyes:
Your NT took a Lesson whether Youngsters or Kids or your 4th Bench Played

[lebanese NT]

Look who starts Problems !?
Your whole NT is based on Fadi El-Khatib No body can deny this Fact and let's see when he retires what gonna happen ! without him your NT is ZERO with all due Respect :rolleyes:
Your NT took a Lesson whether Youngsters or Kids or your 4th Bench Played

why this tone and yes our starting 5 did not play the game period! and more then half this roster wont reach asia! and who cares about lessons in a friendly game! . take the philippine NT they used to count how many time they win over us in a friendly game then we reach the finals in asia and they end up 8 place or 9!.

[rtk04]

looool :D u mean without their key players fadi el khatib, jean abdelnour, ali mahmoud, elie rostoum etc. and actually it was a practice game to the bench of our bench lol whom most of them wont reach the final roster that will be playing in asia in september

hey man, don't be offended, let him and all think that we only miss fadi El Khatib...lol.
So we played a nice game , with the addition of Elkhatib we can finish the game losing by less than 10, which is verygood against Jordan the Basketball powerhouse not only in Asia but in the solar system...since they qualified last year to world cup for 1st time

[SOLO]

why this tone and yes our starting 5 did not play the game period! and more then half this roster wont reach asia! and who cares about lessons in a friendly game! . take the philippine NT they used to count how many time they win over us in a friendly game then we reach the finals in asia and they end up 8 place or 9!.

Who Cares 2009 Nightmare is chasing you !

We also played without our key players : Rasheim Wright, Islam Abbas (injured), Mohammad Hamdan (Injured), Imad Qahwash (Our Surprize for Asia), Jamal Abu Shamala (His issue to be solved)

Stop this Childish Execuses , in 2009 your Players were making Gangs inside the Team and now you miss your Key Players and in 2009 The Referee gave the game to China and and and and ... Grow Up Kids !

[ayman n]

Who Cares , shofnako te7t with Fadi w shofnako te7t without him , 2009 Nightmare is chasing you !

We also played without our key players : Rasheim Wright, Islam Abbas (injured), Mohammad Hamdan (Injured), Imad Qahwash (Our Surprize for Asia), Jamal Abu Shamala (His issue to be solved)

Stop this Childish Execuses , in 2009 your Players were making Gangs inside the Team and now you miss your Key Players and in 2009 The Referee gave the game to China and and and and ... Grow Up Kids !

Just for ur info we didnt miss any ordinary players as ur team (only wright is starter) we missed our starting line up: Mahmoud, Khatib, Abdelnour, Tabet and Southill(if he's gonna be our nationalized) in addition to restom our 6th man and bawji(who have a big role in the team) and william fares and dont daniel fares(although their is a high percentage not to be with us in asia), so in summary we almost missed all our NT. So please think before u put such comment!!!!!

[SOLO]

Just for ur info we didnt miss any ordinary players as ur team (only wright is starter) we missed our starting line up: Mahmoud, Khatib, Abdelnour, Tabet and Southill(if he's gonna be our nationalized) in addition to restom our 6th man and bawji(who have a big role in the team) and william fares and dont daniel fares(although their is a high percentage not to be with us in asia), so in summary we almost missed all our NT. So please think before u put such comment!!!!!

ِAdd to your info that our starters Muosa Awadi , Zaid Alkhas did not play any Minute add to them Islam Abbas who plays on 4 with Ayman Idais and Mohammad Hamdan who you've seen in Asia Champions Cup 2011 ...

Just Accept the Loss and stop behaving like Kids with your Funny Execuses as usual ...... William and Daniel Pharis won't play so don't count them and who'se that Bassil Bawji !? another Kid who just got kicked out from TULSA in NCAA !

Guys it's just disgusting how you all here behave as Lebanon is the Number 1 Ranked in the World ..... just be realistic for One hell of time !!!

End of Discussion cause everytime i enter here i hear the same shit and i can't ignore .....

[ayman n]

ِAdd to your info that our starters Muosa Awadi , Zaid Alkhas did not play any Minute add to them Islam Abbas who plays on 4 with Ayman Idais and Mohammad Hamdan who you've seen in Asia Champions Cup 2011 ...

Just Accept the Loss and stop behaving like Kids with your Funny Execuses as usual ...... William and Daniel Pharis won't play so don't count them and who'se that Bassil Bawji !? another Kid who just got kicked out from TULSA in NCAA !

Guys it's just disgusting how you all here behave as Lebanon is the Number 1 Ranked in the World ..... just be realistic for One hell of time !!!

End of Discussion cause everytime i enter here i hear the same shit and i can't ignore .....

Man where did u see me writing that Lebanon is the best in the world or asia, we all know that china is the best in asia and iran and lebanon compete on the second position and also jordan and korea but not that competitive as iran and lebanon.

Im not talking about the loss and what i wrote ain't an excuse and i accept in a very good mood and im the first to congratulate jordan in 2009 when winnig on lebanon, so again think before u post!!!

btw shaklak u never watched bawji in the lebanese league or arab tournament in 2010! and william fares is ready to be with the NT for info but he might not be chosen for the last 12!

And also Zaid el Khas and Islam Abbas levels are not as before while moussa el awadi is a great player!! i always give credit to any team and i have no problem so dont generalize no insults, please!!

[SOLO]

Man where did u see me writing that Lebanon is the best in the world or asia, we all know that china is the best in asia and iran and lebanon compete on the second position and also jordan and korea but not that competitive as iran and lebanon.

Im not talking about the loss and what i wrote ain't an excuse and i accept in a very good mood and im the first to congratulate jordan in 2009 when winnig on lebanon, so again think before u post!!!

btw shaklak u never watched bawji in the lebanese league or arab tournament in 2010! and william fares is ready to be with the NT for info but he might not be chosen for the last 12!

And also Zaid el Khas and Islam Abbas levels are not as before while moussa el awadi is a great player!! i always give credit to any team and i have no problem so dont generalize no personal insults, please!!

y3nee while i was reading your comment i was totally shocked with your good and realistic language but you ruined everything with the last word ... Shame on you !

[ayman n]

ِ

Just Accept the Loss and stop behaving like Kids with your Funny Execuses as usual

Guys it's just disgusting

End of Discussion cause everytime i enter here i hear the same shit and i can't ignore .....

Is this an acceptable language?? anyway im sorry for that word i usually dont talk to people in such way but since u used offensive words i couldnt handle it anymore.... sorry again but also yareit u use also non-offensive words and no one will be offensive to you :)

[daniab]

we really had an awfull game, but its ok since its our first game ever, we relied too much on 3 pointers, and u cant win having a one style game! but i was really happy seeing the guys performing at this level during the 1st and 3rd quarters!
i was waiting for more from Rodrigue Akl, i dont know why he didnt step up and show his usual level lately, sounds weird!!!
and the main problem is that our inside game is almost zero, Roy Samaha and Nadim hawi aint offensive players, i wish we had someone like Bassel Bawji or William Pharis, our game could have get way better and different!
I was rly happy with Ali Haidar, its his first game over here, and yet he played confident and strong, but still needs lot of experience and exposure to become a great player!

P.S: Jordan must be happy if they make the eight finals, (seriously now lol)

[SOLO]

[QUOTE=daniab;606066
P.S: Jordan must be happy if they make the eight finals, (seriously now lol)[/QUOTE]

Not your Business and take care of your NT better for you , Inshalla your NT won't make it to 2nd Round (From Deep inside my Heart LOL)

[behzadir]

Man where did u see me writing that Lebanon is the best in the world or asia, we all know that china is the best in asia and iran and lebanon compete on the second position and also jordan and korea but not that competitive as iran and lebanon.

Im not talking about the loss and what i wrote ain't an excuse and i accept in a very good mood and im the first to congratulate jordan in 2009 when winnig on lebanon, so again think before u post!!!

btw shaklak u never watched bawji in the lebanese league or arab tournament in 2010! and william fares is ready to be with the NT for info but he might not be chosen for the last 12!

And also Zaid el Khas and Islam Abbas levels are not as before while moussa el awadi is a great player!! i always give credit to any team and i have no problem so dont generalize ya 7mar!!

I wouldn't put Iran and Lebanon in the same category.I would put Iran and China in one pot and Lebanon and Jordan in another one with Jordan having the upper hand recentely(i mean these 2 years,nothing more).Not only me,but most think as it like that.Lebanon has a great history in basketball,but since 2007 they are in a downhill(not to forget how superbly they beat france in '06 )

[SOLO]

I wouldn't put Iran and Lebanon in the same category.I would put Iran and China in one pot and Lebanon and Jordan in another one with Jordan having the upper hand recentely(i mean these 2 years,nothing more).Not only me,but most think as it like that.Lebanon has a great history in basketball,but since 2007 they are in a downhill(not to forget how superbly they beat france in '06 )

hahaha Good Point Dude , but you think their Arrogance gonna make them understand these Facts !? I doubt :rolleyes:

[mavrick_h]

I wouldn't put Iran and Lebanon in the same category.I would put Iran and China in one pot and Lebanon and Jordan in another one with Jordan having the upper hand recentely(i mean these 2 years,nothing more).Not only me,but most think as it like that.Lebanon has a great history in basketball,but since 2007 they are in a downhill(not to forget how superbly they beat france in '06 )

you're totally wrong my friend based on FIBA WC 2010 the trio Iran (1st), China (2nd) & Lebanon (4th) as 2009 Asian Championship had 1 Win and 4 Losses...Iran won over Tunisia China over Ivory Coast and Lebanon over Canada. Lebanon participated in the WC 2010 by an invitation, and yet we've beaten a team above our ranking. while Jordan (3rd Asia) couldn't win a single match. (first timers needed experience totally logic)

and
last i checked Riyadi won Asian Cup 2011 and they were from Lebanon beating 4 year Iranian domination since 2007.
In addition the Jordanian team didn't reach the semis.

Jordan won over us in 2009 3rd place match up because the team was careless...(LOL at that whistle against China in the semis)...typical Lebanese mentality ....we always lose 3rd place games...it's unprofessional..we all know that.

Summary:
we're not in a downhill that's for sure...maybe we're not climbing the ladder but not going down either.

[SOLO]

you're totally wrong my friend based on FIBA WC 2010 the trio Iran (1st), China (2nd) & Lebanon (4th) as 2009 Asian Championship had 1 Win and 4 Losses...Iran won over Tunisia China over Ivory Coast and Lebanon over Canada. Lebanon participated in the WC 2010 by an invitation, and yet we've beaten a team above our ranking. while Jordan (3rd Asia) couldn't win a single match. (first timers needed experience totally logic)

and
last i checked Riyadi won Asian Cup 2011 and they were from Lebanon beating 4 year Iranian domination since 2007.
In addition the Jordanian team didn't reach the semis.

Jordan won over us in 2009 3rd place match up because the team was careless...(LOL at that whistle against China in the semis)...typical Lebanese mentality ....we always lose 3rd place games...it's unprofessional..we all know that.

Summary:
we're not in a downhill that's for sure...maybe we're not climbing the ladder but not going down either.

Brother one time talk in a logic way not in a biased one , you lost cause your players were careless !? Give me a Break ! it was the game which gonna qualify one team between us to WC and you say careless !? haha So funny , you keep talking about istory and Bullshit Whistle against China! as Jordan did not lose against Iran in the last seconds ha! but we are Nashama and don't care about Past and you should say that we won cause we were the Best then and kicked your Ass hardly ... i remember Rony Fahed's shot in the last 5 seconds alone while our players left the court celebrating the WIN and Qualification to WC hahah , it should finish then by 81-64 !

Stop Comparing Jordan to Lebanon cause we don'T care about you or your Team , we care about Teams like Iran , China, Japan and Korea ... those are real contenders !

EXECUSES ; EXECUSES ; EXECUSES : You Group of Kids , am dying to reach FIBA Asia and see your As being kicked hardly not even from Jordan but also from China and Iran ......:D

You barely gonna reach the quarter finals :P

[Grimjow]

People we lost a friendly match so whats all the big fuss about?

btw will the website "Alexei Nachrade Basketball" be uploading the matches? who owns that site anyway? http://www.alexei-nachrade.com/access/sports/basketball.htm

[behzadir]

you're totally wrong my friend based on FIBA WC 2010 the trio Iran (1st), China (2nd) & Lebanon (4th) as 2009 Asian Championship had 1 Win and 4 Losses...Iran won over Tunisia China over Ivory Coast and Lebanon over Canada. Lebanon participated in the WC 2010 by an invitation, and yet we've beaten a team above our ranking. while Jordan (3rd Asia) couldn't win a single match. (first timers needed experience totally logic)

and
last i checked Riyadi won Asian Cup 2011 and they were from Lebanon beating 4 year Iranian domination since 2007.
In addition the Jordanian team didn't reach the semis.

Jordan won over us in 2009 3rd place match up because the team was careless...(LOL at that whistle against China in the semis)...typical Lebanese mentality ....we always lose 3rd place games...it's unprofessional..we all know that.

Summary:
we're not in a downhill that's for sure...maybe we're not climbing the ladder but not going down either.

Well if you don't know what downhill means you better go check the dictionary once more! Beating France in '06 and then losing to Iran in a game for a slot in the Olympics is a downhill.Achieving the 4th place in 2009 comparing to 2007's runners up achievement is a downhill.

I'm really happy that Mahram lost the final game to Riyadi,that made our guys back down to earth.Samad and Kamrani hadn't lost a single major cup since 2007,meaning just winning and winning for 4 years,so it was good for them to see the other page of a basketball game.Also that game was a brilliant game by Fadi which is i respect as a great player.I'm at the opposite end of you and i hate to make excuses.We lost and we deserved to lose.So no word about that.But i'm guessing your team isn't prepared enough right now. Let's see if your preperations can get a boost in the coming month or two.

[mavrick_h]

Well if you don't know what downhill means you better go check the dictionary once more! Beating France in '06 and then losing to Iran in a game for a slot in the Olympics is a downhill.Achieving the 4th place in 2009 comparing to 2007's runners up achievement is a downhill.

I'm really happy that Mahram lost the final game to Riyadi,that made our guys back down to earth.Samad and Kamrani hadn't lost a single major cup since 2007,meaning just winning and winning for 4 years,so it was good for them to see the other page of a basketball game.Also that game was a brilliant game by Fadi which is i respect as a great player.I'm at the opposite end of you and i hate to make excuses.We lost and we deserved to lose.So no word about that.But i'm guessing your team isn't prepared enough right now. Let's see if your preperations can get a boost in the coming month or two.

so you just ignored everything in the post before and started to give me an english lesson woow thanks man.
I don't understand what you really want us to beat to at least stay on the hill.USA ? Spain ? last i checked we are at the same ranking since 2007 we're not on a downhill just admit that....and we're not making excuses for just to talk.
We are a smaller country than all the rest and have enough problems to face off. What our guys are doin' is a miracle.
preparing a team with 200 k for Asian cup i believe it's not the greatest budget and the idea.
So basically having 1/3 or 1/4 of your budget/preparations and going to Asian Cup and reaching the semis is a big achievement.

[mavrick_h]

People we lost a friendly match so whats all the big fuss about?

btw will the website "Alexei Nachrade Basketball" be uploading the matches? who owns that site anyway? http://www.alexei-nachrade.com/access/sports/basketball.htm

nothing interesting to watch there pal it was a waste of time.

[behzadir]

so you just ignored everything in the post before and started to give me an english lesson woow thanks man.
I don't understand what you really want us to beat to at least stay on the hill.USA ? Spain ? last i checked we are at the same ranking since 2007 we're not on a downhill just admit that....and we're not making excuses for just to talk.
We are a smaller country than all the rest and have enough problems to face off. What our guys are doin' is a miracle.
preparing a team with 200 k for Asian cup i believe it's not the greatest budget and the idea.
So basically having 1/3 or 1/4 of your budget/preparations and going to Asian Cup and reaching the semis is a big achievement.

I didn't say so,and you yourself better knows that it will be just a wet dream for you guys.Open your eyes and just try to beat Jordan before conquering the whole world dude.I didn't speak about USA or Spain,they are not in your class pal.I'm just trying to tell you that you must first understand the facts before starting to spread your ideas.I didn't say you have a great budget.it is rather awful,i really know that,so just keep your expectations down as you said.Semis is a big achievement for you now,so stop talkin about beating Iran and China.You need a miracle for that to happen right now.

P.S when will the Tunisia-Belarus game start ?

[mavrick_h]

I didn't say so,and you yourself better knows that it will be just a wet dream for you guys.Open your eyes and just try to beat Jordan before conquering the whole world dude.I didn't speak about USA or Spain,they are not in your class pal.I'm just trying to tell you that you must first understand the facts before starting to spread your ideas.I didn't say you have a great budget.it is rather awful,i really know that,so just keep your expectations down as you said.Semis is a big achievement for you now,so stop talkin about beating Iran and China.You need a miracle for that to happen right now.

P.S when will the Tunisia-Belarus game start ?

you were referring to...dreaming is a good thing fella...and we'll keep on :)

[behzadir]

you were referring to...dreaming is a good thing fella...and we'll keep on :)

Well as long as it's a dream,i'm ok with it;)

[gazara]

we have not to miss that we r missing all our NT A Starting lineup

1-Fadi El Khatib (199-SF)(CAPTAIN)
2-Ali Mahmoud (180-PG)
3-Jean Abdel Nour (199-SF)
4-Daniel Faris (206-C)
5-Bassel Bawji (205-PF/C)
6-William Faris (206-PF)
7-Sabah Khoury (196-SF)
8-Elias Restom (197-SF)

No need for provocation. Khalid80

[behzadir]

behzadir
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I Love you in Allah man :)
you've just shut the Big Mouth of that Kid , keep on going cause their Arrogance will kill them sometime !

Dude chill down
We're here to discuss basketball matters.We might get into arguements at some times,but we're not here to fight.
The important thing for all is to have the facts in mind,not dream of something when you're not capable of doing so with a team not being prepared so well.

[SOLO]

Dude chill down
We're here to discuss basketball matters.We might get into arguements at some times,but we're not here to fight.
The important thing for all is to have the facts in mind,not dream of something when you're not capable of doing so with a team not being prepared so well.

Sure and i never said something else , their way of arguments and excuses is Childish , they remind me of my Childhood when my fellows loses and makes excuses !

They even have no Clear Preparation plan and still talks , just shut up and concentrate on their Work other than mocking on others and Dreaming of Beating China,Iran,Jordan or even Japan who prepares very well and has clear plans and other than that they concentrate on their Job .... the ybehave as they won FIBA Asia 10 times in a row , am wondering how what would they do in this Case !!!:eek: may be it's something in their Taboooleh haha

[leb-basket]

Dude chill down
We're here to discuss basketball matters.We might get into arguements at some times,but we're not here to fight.
The important thing for all is to have the facts in mind,not dream of something when you're not capable of doing so with a team not being prepared so well.

what you are saying behzadir is true but you guys need to stop teasing us or refer to 2009 tournament. Every team has up and downs especially after the improvement of several asian teams such as jordan philippines iran ...
You guys can just use a better language without referring to downhill or weakness or whatever SOLO comes up with... We are having problems with preparations that doesn't mean we are a weak team.
Right now we can't make it to the semis and that's obvious same goes for all of your teams guys dt get too high with ure expectations solo ure team is yet not capable of beating asia power houses.

yesterday was lebanon's first game since the FLB finished and yet we didn't get much of preparations for king abdallah. We are participating with a team of youngsters add to that we dt have a center! Yesterday's score makes perfect sense!
STOP you childlish words solo. Hopefully all of our teams would get enough preparations and that's when we can say: may the best win.

[leb-basket]

Sure and i never said something else , their way of arguments and excuses is Childish , they remind me of my Childhood when my fellows loses and makes excuses !

They even have no Clear Preparation plan and still talks , just shut up and concentrate on their Work other than mocking on others and Dreaming of Beating China,Iran,Jordan or even Japan who prepares very well and has clear plans and other than that they concentrate on their Job .... the ybehave as they won FIBA Asia 10 times in a row , am wondering how what would they do in this Case !!!:eek: may be it's something in their Taboooleh haha

i wonder who reminds me of my childhood now ... you are criticizing us and instead of showing some maturity you are acting worse ...

[Grimjow]

nothing interesting to watch there pal it was a waste of time.

ha ok just wanted to see how our boys did :)

[karim]

whos number 4 who played now against kuwait a tall center who looks like an import but his name is michel :confused: and where is everybody is sarkis going to start picking kids and friends and people he knows to the team next thing ull see karl and ralph sarkis on the team just like champville :p

[ayman n]

I wouldn't put Iran and Lebanon in the same category.I would put Iran and China in one pot and Lebanon and Jordan in another one with Jordan having the upper hand recentely(i mean these 2 years,nothing more).Not only me,but most think as it like that.Lebanon has a great history in basketball,but since 2007 they are in a downhill(not to forget how superbly they beat france in '06 )

Man i don't think iran have reached china's level (although iran won china before but that doesn't mean that iran is better), Basketball wise Lebanon and iran are on the same level with a slight adv. to Lebanon (im not being biased but we are better on pos 1,2,3 u r better on 4,5)

Our main problem is MANAGEMENT which is iran way better in it from us, we have the worst management in all asia and that what makes Iran as a whole slightly better than us in the last 3 years!!! Plz SOLO dont reply in ur usual Silly way (u kids bla bla bla)

[mavrick_h]

whos number 4 who played now against kuwait a tall center who looks like an import but his name is michel :confused: and where is everybody is sarkis going to start picking kids and friends and people he knows to the team next thing ull see karl and ralph sarkis on the team just like champville :p


he's testing a lot of young and important prospects. The main guys will join later on.

Michael Southall. He is on trial find more details in Lebanese NT 2011 thread here (http://forums.interbasket.net/f76/lebanese-nt-2011-14401/p31.html)

[behzadir]

Man i don't think iran have reached china's level (although iran won china before but that doesn't mean that iran is better), Basketball wise Lebanon and iran are on the same level with a slight adv. to Lebanon (im not being biased but we are better on pos 1,2,3 u r better on 4,5)

Our main problem is MANAGEMENT which is iran way better in it from us, we have the worst management in all asia and that what makes Iran as a whole slightly better than us in the last 3 years!!! Plz SOLO dont reply in ur usual Silly way (u kids bla bla bla)

Well you must be dreaming too dude.

China without Yao won't be the usual dominant team again,same might go with Iran when Haddadi retires.We beat China with a margin of 18 in the last championship in China,i think that is enough proof to show what we're capable of.Lebanon without Vroman will never be the same.
The chinese know who their real matchup will be against,i think they look at things more logical.

[rtk04]

Well you must be dreaming too dude.

China without Yao won't be the usual dominant team again,same might go with Iran when Haddadi retires.We beat China with a margin of 18 in the last championship in China,i think that is enough proof to show what we're capable of.Lebanon without Vroman will never be the same.
The chinese know who their real matchup will be against,i think they look at things more logical.

yes but dont forget that china won Iran last summer in 2 games in stankovic, i remember both games ended by about 20 points...
concerning the final in 2009, china only lost by 18 against Iran cz they came out from the semifinal tired against lebanon and relaxing 6 hours less than Iran before the final day...is this a fact or a dream that i had back then ???

and one more thing, Iran can win asian cup for 100 times, but worldwise speaking,
Lebanon 3 participations in world cup 3 wins (2 against America) 1 win against Europe.
Iran 1 participation (1 win against Africa)....
:D

[leb-basket]

yes but dont forget that china won Iran last summer in 2 games in stankovic, i remember both games ended by about 20 points...
concerning the final in 2009, china only lost by 18 against Iran cz they came out from the semifinal tired against lebanon and relaxing 6 hours less than Iran before the final day...is this a fact or a dream that i had back then ???

and one more thing, Iran can win asian cup for 100 times, but worldwise speaking,
Lebanon 3 participations in world cup 3 wins (2 against America) 1 win against Europe.
Iran 1 participation (1 win against Africa)....
:D

man in the last WC preperations we won over canada and lost vs argentina by 5 points. Few days later we ended up winning over canada for the second time and showed a great first half against spain; however, Due to cheating reasons we lost all our centers and ended playing with only guards. I am not proving anyth here but we are strong team and able to win over bigger teams.

Oh by the way behzadir during the last asian championship we lost 2 games vs china but both were tied up series. I dt think you can consider us in a downhill or on a lower level than ures! What makes the diff is our financial situation that forbids us from improving and facing higher level teams.

[SOLO]

yes but dont forget that china won Iran last summer in 2 games in stankovic, i remember both games ended by about 20 points...
concerning the final in 2009, china only lost by 18 against Iran cz they came out from the semifinal tired against lebanon and relaxing 6 hours less than Iran before the final day...is this a fact or a dream that i had back then ???

and one more thing, Iran can win asian cup for 100 times, but worldwise speaking,
Lebanon 3 participations in world cup 3 wins (2 against America) 1 win against Europe.
Iran 1 participation (1 win against Africa)....
:D

gimme a Break !!! as Iran won easily on Jordan ha ! 77-75 in the last seconds !!!! (English or provide translation) differnce of 2 hours between our game and your game made the differnce !!

(No need for that. Khalid80)

[SOLO]

Behzadir

man just ignore them , let them talk n talk n talk .... Court will Judge and Sepetember only 2 months far!Just wondering what would their Excuses Seem !!
aha they did not prepare Good and they their Budget for the NT was ZERO and Michael Jordan did not join their Nr1 World Ranked National Team who won over France and Venezuela and and and adna bla bla bla bla !

(english or provide translation)

[lebanese NT]

Behzadir

man just ignore them , let them talk n talk n talk .... Court will Judge and Sepetember only 2 months far!Just wondering what would their Excuses Seem !!
aha they did not prepare Good and they their Budget for the NT was ZERO and Michael Jordan did not join their Nr1 World Ranked National Team who won over France and Venezuela and and and adna bla bla bla bla !

7ello 3en semana gereftoona !

(English or provide translation)
i know ur jealous from lebanon cause deep inside, u know that we are better then u in basketball even though u dont want to admit it.
we have a better league , better achievements, better history and better ranking. just remember that our last encounter was in the asian stankovic cup and that was only weeks before the wc. u were in ur peak and played many games before and ended up losing against us. we held u back then with less then 60 pts;)( a team that will be playing in the wc just weeks after couldnt score 60 pts!).

i just hope this time around that the team will be ready ( no injuries and surprises ) and we meet ;)

[behzadir]

yes but dont forget that china won Iran last summer in 2 games in stankovic, i remember both games ended by about 20 points...
concerning the final in 2009, china only lost by 18 against Iran cz they came out from the semifinal tired against lebanon and relaxing 6 hours less than Iran before the final day...is this a fact or a dream that i had back then ???

and one more thing, Iran can win asian cup for 100 times, but worldwise speaking,
Lebanon 3 participations in world cup 3 wins (2 against America) 1 win against Europe.
Iran 1 participation (1 win against Africa)....
:D

This is why i say with this kind of mentality you will never have a future.We played and even tougher game against Jordan and only won on a layup by Samad in the last possesion.With all due respect to you but the bold part of your post is the biggest B.S i can ever take from someone.It shows your not looking to things basketball-wise,you just want to see where Lebanon had a footprint and put that in between a subject.I was talking about Iran-China game and you bring up something about Lebanon.We lost to China by a 3 pointer in last years asian cup game while China was missing Yi and we were missing Hamed and Samad,this shows what is going on in our level of game.
China is our real rival,after that i'm looking at Jordan(a team playing with the same players at a high level for some years now),South korea(a team we mostly have problems against their speed) and Lebanon(as an asian basketball powerhouse always aware of them).

Think better mate!

[ayman n]

Behzadir

man just ignore them , let them talk n talk n talk .... Court will Judge and Sepetember only 2 months far!Just wondering what would their Excuses Seem !!
aha they did not prepare Good and they their Budget for the NT was ZERO and Michael Jordan did not join their Nr1 World Ranked National Team who won over France and Venezuela and and and adna bla bla bla bla !



(No need for that) i was trying to talk basketball with behzadir and u answer in anyway but basketball.

It is not obligatory to have the same opinion with me or anyone on the forum, everyone has his own logic but what is obligatory is to respect the others opinion.

Do u see that we all talk with respect too and the others but u, that is because ur answers are always in an offensive tone (U lebanese are kids arrogant). While i never attacked jordanians or any other nationality.

(No need for that)

[behzadir]

This thread is meant to be for the cup being played in Jordan.I guess lebananese aren't really interested in talking about what's going on in this cup.
From what i've seen Tunisia(participating with their full 'A' team) and Jordan(missing Rasheim) will have a nice matchup.Looking forward to the game.

[SOLO]

Well Lebanon as u know is missing as usual Michael Jordan and Amare Stoudmaier so they are not interested ... for Rasheim we may see him in the next games and hope he is fit !
Jordan-Tunis will be a hell of a game as Tunis is the only Real matchup for Jordan in King Abdullah Cup !!

[golebanon]

Well Lebanon as u know is missing as usual Michael Jordan and Amare Stoudmaier so they are not interested ... for Rasheim we may see him in the next games and hope he is fit !
Jordan-Tunis will be a hell of a game as Tunis is the only Real matchup for Jordan in King Abdullah Cup !!

did you mean that Rasheim will play with your team in this tournament,cause you've posted before about a problem with him about the money?
Rasheim played with Anibal Zahle the last year,i think he needs a lot of train cause he seemed to be out of shape,although he has a lot of capabilities.
what did happen to abu shamala's siuation,did it have a happy end or still nothing is clear?
Tunisia is a good team,they are in their peak of performance and chemistry,i think it'll end a final match between tunisia and Jordan.Did those teams meet before?

[golebanon]

This is why i say with this kind of mentality you will never have a future.We played and even tougher game against Jordan and only won on a layup by Samad in the last possesion.With all due respect to you but the bold part of your post is the biggest B.S i can ever take from someone.It shows your not looking to things basketball-wise,you just want to see where Lebanon had a footprint and put that in between a subject.I was talking about Iran-China game and you bring up something about Lebanon.We lost to China by a 3 pointer in last years asian cup game while China was missing Yi and we were missing Hamed and Samad,this shows what is going on in our level of game.
China is our real rival,after that i'm looking at Jordan(a team playing with the same players at a high level for some years now),South korea(a team we mostly have problems against their speed) and Lebanon(as an asian basketball powerhouse always aware of them).

Think better mate!

Don't be pissed off,every one is free to express his ideas and cheer for his team.In my opinion,i think our team is having a miraculous performance regarding our preparations and budget.As you and everybody know,we've never had high level camps or the proper funding,but still we managed to keep our game alive with a very competitive team.If you check up the budget of our sports ministry you'll laugh and laugh cause it's a joke,this money is not enough to prepare for a single sport.I'm not trying to have any excuses,i'm trying to introduce you into our depressing situation.On the other hand,i'm proud that this 10452 km2 country is able to say i'm here.
To all the posters please stop this discussion cause we're stuck in this viscious circle,an offending post leads to another,and finally we'll end up with nothing.

[Khalid80]

Guys there's no need to remind you all once again that this thread has been created to discuss the King Abdullah II 2011 Friendly Tournament so calm down and relax.

As mentioned before OT, flaming comments, provocations, and personal confrontations will not be tolerated whatsoever!

[behzadir]

Don't be pissed off,every one is free to express his ideas and cheer for his team.In my opinion,i think our team is having a miraculous performance regarding our preparations and budget.As you and everybody know,we've never had high level camps or the proper funding,but still we managed to keep our game alive with a very competitive team.If you check up the budget of our sports ministry you'll laugh and laugh cause it's a joke,this money is not enough to prepare for a single sport.I'm not trying to have any excuses,i'm trying to introduce you into our depressing situation.On the other hand,i'm proud that this 10452 km2 country is able to say i'm here.
To all the posters please stop this discussion cause we're stuck in this viscious circle,an offending post leads to another,and finally we'll end up with nothing.

No need to get into harsh words pal.
As you say you have a good national team for your population and for the size of your country.;)
I never said you were below expectations and we shouldn't expect more.
So lets just chill out bro.

[macan77]

can anyone update the results of the king abdullah cup? thanks

[leb-basket]

can anyone update the results of the king abdullah cup? thanks

Lebanon won over algeria 79 63. Michael southall (project for naturalization) played for a total of like 3 min (still sick)

[gazara]

Ghaleb rida in His Best Days ,he s playing really well

[behzadir]

From what i saw in today's games i must say that Rodrique akl is a great player with good speed and a nice vision.He really impressed me today.Belarus looked weak to me.Same goes with the Egyptian incomplete team.
As i said before the good matchup will be between Jordan and Tunisia as they have participated nearly with their full potential.
Also guessing that Lebanon-Belarus will be the quarter final game to watch.

[eliooo93]

Lebanon won over algeria 79 63. Michael southall (project for naturalization) played for a total of like 3 min (still sick)

:eek: Have not been following the NT at all but this win is really impressive! Hope the young guys can keep up the good work.. :cool:

[daniab]

we have officialy the worst luck ever, our leading scorer in this tournament Ghaleb Reda will miss the rest of it bcz of an injury!!!

even Elie Stephan had a small injury in his shoulder but he will play!

[eliooo93]

we have officialy the worst luck ever, our leading scorer in this tournament Ghaleb Reda will miss the rest of it bcz of an injury!!!

even Elie Stephan had a small injury in his shoulder but he will play!

Very unfortunate :mad:

[rtk04]

we have officialy the worst luck ever, our leading scorer in this tournament Ghaleb Reda will miss the rest of it bcz of an injury!!!

even Elie Stephan had a small injury in his shoulder but he will play!

I agree about the luck thing. let us see how the team will react to this, it is interesting to see. Good opportunity for other players to bring on their game.
More minutes for Ali Haidar and Elie Stephan.

[leb-basket]

we have officialy the worst luck ever, our leading scorer in this tournament Ghaleb Reda will miss the rest of it bcz of an injury!!!

even Elie Stephan had a small injury in his shoulder but he will play!

WHAT THE F!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now what! i swear to god we are jinxed!

[mavrick_h]

we have officialy the worst luck ever, our leading scorer in this tournament Ghaleb Reda will miss the rest of it bcz of an injury!!!

even Elie Stephan had a small injury in his shoulder but he will play!

yup luck have his role sometimes

[wanderingjo]

imad qahwash played his first match he is a great player

[behzadir]

Well as everyone could predict we will have a Jordan-Tunisia matchup in the final game.By watching the two semifinal games i must say that the Jordanian team didn't convince me at all.They had a lot of turnovers in the first half and were really vulnerable on the fast breaks.W/o Rasheim Wright there isn't a good communication in the team and the ball movement looks pretty shaky.

Also in the center position they look really shaky without Ayman Aidas.
I expected more from the Jordanian team having played some friendlies with Ukraine and a couple other games.

Overall without Rashiem i don't think Jordan will repeat their achievement in this years championship and i don't see them in the semis.


Tunisia has a good team,same players playing together for a couple of years now.They find each other pretty good on the court.They have a great PG in Marvan Keshrit and a really good center in Salah Mejri.Though they had a tough game today and played below expectations against Belarus.


For other major teams competing in the tournament i think Egypt has no chance in this years AFRO CUP with their incomplete slow team.

We didn't see the whole Lebananese team.They were missing their starters in this cup so we can't really know how they will compete in the asian championship.They were playing mostly with their backups(It isnt called a "B" team as some say,it's an incomplete "A" team).

Overall it's been a fun cup to watch till now.

And coming last,i'm really amazed at some posters here that they argue 5 pages of the thread before the cup,but during the cup they don't even come up to analyze the games and even write down their score when they have won or specially lost their games.Pretty shocking

[Le MaK]

Well as everyone could predict we will have a Jordan-Tunisia matchup in the final game.By watching the two semifinal games i must say that the Jordanian team didn't convince me at all.They had a lot of turnovers in the first half and were really vulnerable on the fast breaks.W/o Rasheim Wright there isn't a good communication in the team and the ball movement looks pretty shaky.

Also in the center position they look really shaky without Ayman Aidas.
I expected more from the Jordanian team having played some friendlies with Ukraine and a couple other games.

Overall without Rashiem i don't think Jordan will repeat their achievement in this years championship and i don't see them in the semis.


Tunisia has a good team,same players playing together for a couple of years now.They find each other pretty good on the court.They have a great PG in Marvan Keshrit and a really good center in Salah Mejri.Though they had a tough game today and played below expectations against Belarus.


For other major teams competing in the tournament i think Egypt has no chance in this years AFRO CUP with their incomplete slow team.

We didn't see the whole Lebananese team.They were missing their starters in this cup so we can't really know how they will compete in the asian championship.They were playing mostly with their backups(It isnt called a "B" team as some say,it's an incomplete "A" team).

Overall it's been a fun cup to watch till now.

And coming last,i'm really amazed at some posters here that they argue 5 pages of the thread before the cup,but during the cup they don't even come up to analyze the games and even write down their score when they have won or specially lost their games.Pretty shocking

To call it an incomplete " A" Team, you should @ least have 6 out of the main 12 players included.
Fadi , Jean , ali , Elie Rustom, Ghaleb, Daniel, Charles, Matt, Nationalized player . These names were not included ( except for ghaleb who only missed the QF Game ).
I dont see how you considered it an Incomplete " A " Team :).
Anyway, im not into judging teams in such a friendly tourney, but for me Jordan got everything needed to compete in asia, except the fact of having an Old-school Coach who doesn't know anything about the Old-School !
Best of luck for all team :)

[daniab]

We didn't see the whole Lebananese team.They were missing their starters in this cup so we can't really know how they will compete in the asian championship.They were playing mostly with their backups(It isnt called a "B" team as some say,it's an incomplete "A" team).

Overall it's been a fun cup to watch till now.

And coming last,i'm really amazed at some posters here that they argue 5 pages of the thread before the cup,but during the cup they don't even come up to analyze the games and even write down their score when they have won or specially lost their games.Pretty shocking

its funny to read this, especially that last year during Stankovic cup in Beirut, you had a team where you were calling him your "b'" team although u had some Ä players and you can name them ;)
For ur info, those players ur referring to are not 100% included in the A team except for Rodrigue Akl, and they will fight with the rest of the players who will join later on the remaining spots, so we might see maximum of 3 players from this team in the final roster, and we also might see only 1 players, depends on who will join later!
and abt the analyze thing, please dont be shocked, we want you to be healthy, you can check '"Lebanon NT"" thread and let me know if we were analyzing the tournament or no!

[behzadir]

To call it an incomplete " A" Team, you should @ least have 6 out of the main 12 players included.
Fadi , Jean , ali , Elie Rustom, Ghaleb, Daniel, Charles, Matt, Nationalized player . These names were not included ( except for ghaleb who only missed the QF Game ).
I dont see how you considered it an Incomplete " A " Team :).
Anyway, im not into judging teams in such a friendly tourney, but for me Jordan got everything needed to compete in asia, except the fact of having an Old-school Coach who doesn't know anything about the Old-School !
Best of luck for all team :)


Well seems you guys make new definitions.It's coo; to see you got the talent to make up new things.Anyway as i said before this wasn't a tournament that one could evaluate Lebanon's national team,as they were W/O their main starters.
And about Jordan this is the real team,just missing Rasheim Wright.I guess Rasheim has a big impact on their game and we must not forget that they have a pretty old team.So we won't see the 2009's quality team.

good luck

[behzadir]

its funny to read this, especially that last year during Stankovic cup in Beirut, you had a team where you were calling him your "b'" team although u had some Ä players and you can name them ;)
For ur info, those players ur referring to are not 100% included in the A team except for Rodrigue Akl, and they will fight with the rest of the players who will join later on the remaining spots, so we might see maximum of 3 players from this team in the final roster, and we also might see only 1 players, depends on who will join later!
and abt the analyze thing, please dont be shocked, we want you to be healthy, you can check '"Lebanon NT"" thread and let me know if we were analyzing the tournament or no!

I myself would never call a team having a player from the "A" team a "B" team,though only having 1.
It's called a "B" team when your "A" team is practicing or participating in some other games.
And to go on to the analyzing part i really didn't see true analyzes on the "Lebanon NT" thread and i still don't see a score for the Lebanon-Belarus game!!!
Good luck with your main team.

[Khalid80]

Well as everyone could predict we will have a Jordan-Tunisia matchup in the final game.By watching the two semifinal games i must say that the Jordanian team didn't convince me at all.They had a lot of turnovers in the first half and were really vulnerable on the fast breaks.W/o Rasheim Wright there isn't a good communication in the team and the ball movement looks pretty shaky.

Also in the center position they look really shaky without Ayman Aidas.
I expected more from the Jordanian team having played some friendlies with Ukraine and a couple other games.

Overall without Rashiem i don't think Jordan will repeat their achievement in this years championship and i don't see them in the semis.


Tunisia has a good team,same players playing together for a couple of years now.They find each other pretty good on the court.They have a great PG in Marvan Keshrit and a really good center in Salah Mejri.Though they had a tough game today and played below expectations against Belarus.


For other major teams competing in the tournament i think Egypt has no chance in this years AFRO CUP with their incomplete slow team.

We didn't see the whole Lebananese team.They were missing their starters in this cup so we can't really know how they will compete in the asian championship.They were playing mostly with their backups(It isnt called a "B" team as some say,it's an incomplete "A" team).

Overall it's been a fun cup to watch till now.

And coming last,i'm really amazed at some posters here that they argue 5 pages of the thread before the cup,but during the cup they don't even come up to analyze the games and even write down their score when they have won or specially lost their games.Pretty shocking

I haven't had the chance to watch any of the games from this tournament but i'm familiar with the Tunisian NT and if they are playing with their full roster that played in the 2010 World Championships I do believe that they have a good chance to win this tournament.

Marwan Kechrid is the leader of the NT and he's one of the older more experienced guys whose been there for a while now...
As for Salah I believe he's the only player from the Tunisian NT who's currently playing in Europe (Antwerp in Belgium) and that's great for him as his team gets to play in the Eurochallenge Cup and against some descent European teams so that's really good for him to develop his skills and gain more experience especially since he's still 25 and has an amazing height for a center (214 cm).

In the Jordanian NT I believe there is a big gap between the level and age of the Centers since Ayman Idais and Zaid Al Khas are now well into their 30's and the young centers (Mohammad Shaher and Ali Zaghab are still in their early 20's and still developing....

Regarding the Lebanese NT, it doesn't matter if we call it a very weak A team (A-) or a very good B team (B+) as its no big deal imo :D.. The absence of those guys though makes a huge difference.

At the end of the day this was a great opportunity for some of the younger players to gain experience and show case their level and I hope this will help coach Ghassan in selecting the final team that will be going to Wuhan.

Unfortunately there are a few members here that are more interested in arguing than discussing about basketball :cool:

[Khalid80]

And to go on to the analyzing part i really didn't see true analyzes on the "Lebanon NT" thread and i still don't see a score for the Lebanon-Belarus game!!!
Good luck with your main team.

The final score was Belarus 70 - 63 Lebanon

Points scored by quarters: 27-21, 16-6, 12-19, 15-17.

I couldn't find any stats for the players...

[lebanese phoenix]

I myself would never call a team having a player from the "A" team a "B" team,though only having 1.
It's called a "B" team when your "A" team is practicing or participating in some other games.
And to go on to the analyzing part i really didn't see true analyzes on the "Lebanon NT" thread and i still don't see a score for the Lebanon-Belarus game!!!
Good luck with your main team.

it's funny how you evaluate A and B teams.
A team is when you send your best players, B team is when you have your 2nd best players or players who are really close in level.
As for this team, i would even call it a C team, just look at the roster and you will realise why, i dont know how you can call it an A team when half of the players are aged 18 :D
or when you see that the starting center "nadim hawi" is a bench player in his own team and barely sees the court for less than 3 min in each game.
when we are missing even our B level players like rustom, sabah khoury,Hamdar... i find it hard to know how some people call it an A team, specially that it's only A player "rodrigue akl" is the same player who barely averaged 1 min of playing time with the NT last year :rolleyes:
So if i had to be generous with this team, i would say it's a B- team but realisticaly, it's more of a C team

[nader7]

it's funny how you evaluate A and B teams.
A team is when you send your best players, B team is when you have your 2nd best players or players who are really close in level.
As for this team, i would even call it a C team, just look at the roster and you will realise why, i dont know how you can call it an A team when half of the players are aged 18 :D
or when you see that the starting center "nadim hawi" is a bench player in his own team and barely sees the court for less than 3 min in each game.
when we are missing even our B level players like rustom, sabah khoury,Hamdar... i find it hard to know how some people call it an A team, specially that it's only A player "rodrigue akl" is the same player who barely averaged 1 min of playing time with the NT last year :rolleyes:
So if i had to be generous with this team, i would say it's a B- team but realisticaly, it's more of a C team

In my opinion

NT A:

Woods (or other nationalized player)
Tabet
Abdelnour
Khatib
Mahmoud

Kanaan
Bawji
W.Fares
Rida
Restom
Akl
Martinez

i didnt include D.Fares, freije in team A since all wont be in it this summer but they are NT A level (imo they should replace fares, bawji)

NT B:

Fakhreddine
Haidar
Mnaimneh
Khoury
Fahed

Hamdar
Tawbe
Smaha
Stephan
A. Ibrahim
Saoud
M. Ibrahim

So we got 4 NT A players in this tournament (all bench and 2 of them barely see the court in NT A), and 4 NT B (3 bench NT B) and the 4 rest (total 11 since i wont add southall since he barely played) are from C team or even less (Nadim and mechref maybe should be in NT F :P)

So in conclusion it is barely an NT B!

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