Lnb 2006/07 (ROUND 9)

[Jokinen]

The new season of the Argentinian National league just started. Last season Gimnasia CR got their first championship ever and will try to repeat while Boca Jrs with Leo Gutierrez and Regatas with Montecchia and Diego Garcia are also top candidates.

First Stage
Round 1

The new season of the Argentinian league began with several surprises as power houses Boca jrs, Atenas, Libertad and Regatas were all defeated. Gimnasia CR and Peñarol were the only top team to win in the first round of the new season of the Argentinian Liga Nacional de Basquetball.

Ciclista 71 - 86 Gimnasia CR

Gimnasia:
Charles Jones 23 pts 6 rbs 4 ast 2 stls
Pablo Moldu 16 pts 4 ast 3 rbs
Jervaughn Scales 15 pts 8 rbs 3 ast

Ciclista:
Igwe Chima 18 pts 10 rbs

Obras 64 - 71 Peñarol

Peñarol:
Josh Pittmann 23 pts 9 rbs
Jason Osborne 20 pts 5 rbs 2 stls

Obras:
Tyler Field 25 pts 5 rbs 2 ast

Ben Hur 95 - 67 Regatas

Ben Hur:
Lamont Roland 20 pts 7 ast 2 rbs 2 stls
Eduardo Villares 26 pts 2 rbs
Maurice Spillers 17 pts 6 rbs 4 ast 3 stls

Regatas:
Roberto Lopez 16 pts 8 rbs 2 stls
Diego Garcia 19 pts 3 rbs

Boca Jrs 81 - 85 Dep. Madryn

Madryn:
Ryan Carrol 24 pts 4 rbs
Andres Rodriguez 16 pts 9 rbs 2 ast 2 stls

Boca:
Raymundo Legaria 17 pts 5 ast 2 rbs
Leo Gutierrez 16 pts 4 rbs

Libertad 61 - 66 Sionista

Sionista:
Michael Robinson 18 pts 4 rbs 2 ast
Mariano Byro 16 pts 5 rbs

Libertad:
Dionisio Gomez 17 pts 20 rbs 2 bks :eek:
Diego Cavaco 16 pts 2 stls

Atenas 70 - 84 Belgrano

Belgrano:
Fernando Funes 25 pts 4 rbs 3 stls 2 blks
Nicolas Ferreyra 14 pts 2 rbs 2 ast

Atenas:
William McFarlan 17 pts 6 rbs 3 stls
Bruno Labaque 18 pts 3 ast 2 rbs

Quilmes 109 - 101 Estudiantes

Quilmes:
Sebastian Ginobili 28 pts 7 ast 3 rbs :cool:
Clarence Robinson 18 pts 9 rbs 2 stls
Pedro Calderon 23 pts 7 rbs 2 ast
Ramzee Stanton 17 pts 8 rbs 2 ast

Estudiantes:
Stalin Ortiz 24 pts 2 rbs
Martin Ghirardi 19 pts (3/4 3PTFG)
Fernando Titarelli 14 pts 5 ast

Quimsa 69 - 62 Central

Quimsa:
Erron Maxey 15 pts 18 rbs 2 stls
Robert Brown Jr 17 pts 10 rbs

Central:
Nathaniel Green 12 pts 6 rbs 2 stls

[-K2-]

Stalin Ortiz 24 pts 2 rbs

is this guy the colombian guard?

[carlosGC]

is this guy the colombian guard?


Yes. Ortiz scored 27pts, 67% 2pts against Obras Sanitarias but Estudiantes Bahia Blanca lost again 79 - 72.

[Jokinen]

Yes. Ortiz scored 27pts, 67% 2pts against Obras Sanitarias but Estudiantes Bahia Blanca lost again 79 - 72.

Anyway I think that Ortiz would be one of the better foreigners this season, he is a scoring machine and needs to be the first offensive option. So he is in the right team, he is going to be Estudiantes main offensive weapon. He led the last SouthAmerican championship in scoring with 26.7 ppg, the second was Esteban Batista (Uruguay) with 21.3 ppg.

[-K2-]

I saw him play on the centroamerican games and he is pretty good, nice to see him making a career :)

[Jokinen]

Current champions Gimnasia CR defeated Boca Jrs 88-82 in the most important match of the second round. In Mar del Plata Peñarol defeated their eternal rivals, Quilmes 76-71.
Atenas and Libertad got their first victory of the season while Regatas from Corrientes, one of the teams with the biggest budget in the league was defeated again, starting the season with a 0-2 record.

Boca Jrs 82 - 88 Gimnasia CR

Gimnasia:
Gabriel Cocha 18 pts 6 rbs 2 stls
Leandro Masieri 15 pts 5 rbs

Boca:
Leo Gutierrez 24 pts 5 rbs
Martin Leiva 14 pts 10 rbs 2 blks
Luis Cequeira 16 pts 3 rbs 2 ast 2 stls

Quimes 71 - 76 Peñarol

Peñarol:
Jason Ousborne 18 pts 9 rbs 2 stls
Sebastian Rodriguez 16 pts 3 ast

Quilmes:
Sebastian Ginobili 15 pts 6 rbs 3 ast 2 stls
Agustin Carabajal 17 pts 4 ast 3 rbs
Ramzee Stanton 17 pts 5 rbs

Libertad 94 - 71 Regatas

Libertad:
Diego Cavaco 20 pts 3 rbs 2 ast
Leopoldo Ruiz Moreno 21 pts 6 ast 2 stls
Diego Alba 14 pts 9 ast 5 stls
Andres Pelussi 14 pts 4 rbs 2 ast 2 stls

Regatas:
Diego Garcia 31 pts 5 rbs 2 stls :cool:
Roberto Lopez 13 pts 7 rbs 4 ast

Atenas 106 - 90 Central Entrerriano

Atenas:
Cristian Romero 19 pts 4 rbs 3 stls 2 ast
William McFarlan 14 pts 7 rbs 5 stls 4 ast 4 blks (Kirilenko :confused: )
Terrel Taylor 15 pts 6 rbs
Bruno Labaque 18 pts 3 stls

Central:
Branduin Fullove 22 pts 8 rbs
Nathaniel Green 25 pts 5 rbs 2 stls
Gabriel Diaz 21 pts 5 rbs 3 ast 3 stls

Ben Hur 77 - 63 Sionista

Ben Hur:
Maurice Spillers 14 pts 7 rbs 3 stls 2 ast
Eduardo Villares 19 pts 2 rbs

Sionista:
Michael Robinson 11 pts 8 rbs 2 ast

Quimsa 95 - 75 Belgrano

Quimsa:
Robert Brown Jr 25 pts 7 rbs 3 ast 3 blks :cool:
Julio Mazzaro 24 pts 4 ast 3 stls
Erron Maxey 15 pts 5 rbs 2 stls

Belgrano:
Fernando Funes 18 pts
Eric Pool 10 pts 10 rbs

Ciclista 82 - 79 Dep Madryn

Ciclista:
Marcus Fleeming 27 pts 7 rbs
Diego Prego 20 pts 3 rbs 3 stls

Madryn:
Ryan Carrol 22 pts 8 rbs 3 stls
Andres Rodriguez 14 pts 4 rbs 2 stls

Obras 79 - 72 Estudiantes

Obras:
Tyler Field 21 pts 11 rbs 2 stls
Raheim Brown 16 pts 7 rbs 2 blks

Estudiantes:
Stalin Ortiz 27 pts 5 rbs 3 stls :cool:
Jamal Levy 17 pts 14 rbs 3 stls

[Jokinen]

I saw him play on the centroamerican games and he is pretty good, nice to see him making a career :)

I remember hearing about him when he was about 18 years old already playing for the Colombian senior NT, but then I didn't hear anything else until the last South American Championship earlier this year. Let's see how he does in the remaining of the season.

[Jokinen]

Small forward Maurice Spillers was cut from Ben Hur from Rafaela even if he has averaged 15.5 ppg 6.5 rpg 3 apg and 3 spg his replacement will be power forward Jamar Brown who played the whole preseason for Atenas averaging 16.9 ppg and 8.9 rpg in the Argentinian cup.

Regatas from Corrientes will also cut Joe Zalatel, who will play his last game tonight against Atenas. To replace him Regatas will sign Puerto Rican forward Carmelo Lee

[Jokinen]

Boca Jrs small forward Damond Williams got injured and will be replaced by Maurice Spillers recently cutted from Ben Hur.

Joe Zalatel who was dropped by Regatas will continue to play in Argentina but in the TNA (Second Division) playing for El Nacional

Eric Pool from Belgrano left the team and traveled to EEUU due to personal problems in his place Belgrano signed 6'9" F/C Will O`neal Caudle

[carlosGC]

LNB has just started, and there are already transfers. Now, it is permitted a transfer of a foreigner from an LNB team to another LNB team during the tournament. This was forbidden last season, am I wrong here?.

Also Regatas is evaluating the cut of Romero (who would probably return to Gim. Y Esg. Comodoro) and Jason Keep. Regatas has big governmental economic support, thus want to bring in Román González. Estudiantes is on the search of a big guy (a center) so maybe J. Keep could play in Estudiantes, last season he played well for Belgrano de San Nicolás.


Montecchia sprained, in the game Atenas lost to Regatas Corrientes 93-71. Regatas had 5 losses in a row(3 in Argentinean Cup, and 2 in the championship), and there was a general feeling of discomfort, they really needed a win.

[carlosGC]

First victory for Estudiantes de Bahia Blanca against Ciclista de Junin, with an awesome performance by Stalin Ortiz who scored 26pts in the second half.

[Jokinen]

LNB has just started, and there are already transfers. Now, it is permitted a transfer of a foreigner from an LNB team to another LNB team during the tournament. This was forbidden last season, am I wrong here?.

Also Regatas is evaluating the cut of Romero (who would probably return to Gim. Y Esg. Comodoro) and Jason Keep. Regatas has big governmental economic support, thus want to bring in Román González. Estudiantes is on the search of a big guy (a center) so maybe J. Keep could play in Estudiantes, last season he played well for Belgrano de San Nicolás.


Montecchia sprained, in the game Atenas lost to Regatas Corrientes 93-71. Regatas had 5 losses in a row(3 in Argentinean Cup, and 2 in the championship), and there was a general feeling of discomfort, they really needed a win.

I'm not sure if it was forbidden last season, but i don't remember something like that happening last season, I am also surprised by so many early changes in the rosters

[Jokinen]

Gimnasia CR lost their first game of the season against Ginobili's Quilmes from Mar del Plata, while Leo Gutierrez's Boca Jrs got their first victory of the season defeating the powerfull Peñarol also from Mar del Plata. Regatas without Alejandro Montecchia, won their second game in a row playing their best basketball so far.

Gimnasia CR 69 - 77 Quilmes

Quilmes:
Clarence Robinson 17 pts 7 rbs 2 stls
Pedro Calderon 14 pts 4 rbs 2 stls
Sebastian Ginobili 13 pts 4 rbs

Gimnasia:
Leandro Masieri 17 pts 5 rbs
Pablo Moldu 12 pts 4 stls 3 ast

Peñarol 62 - 84 Boca Jrs

Boca:
Leo Gutierrez 21 pts 3 rbs
Maurice Spillers 9 pts 7 rbs 4 ast 2 stls

Peñarol:
Sebastian Rodriguez 14 pts
Josh Pittman 14 pts

Regatas 94 - 69 Quimsa

Regatas:
Diego Garcia 24 pts 5 ast 3 rbs 2 stls
Roberto Lopez 12 pts 19 rbs 2 ast 2 stls :cool:
Hernando Salles 16 pts 7 ast 4 rbs 2 stls

Quimsa:
Robert Brown Jr 17 pts 10 rbs 3 blks
Fernando Small 15 pts

Belgrano74 - 92 Libertad

Libertad:
Dionisio Gomez 21 pts 7 rbs 4 ast 2 stls 2 blks
Andres Pelussi 16 pts 9 rbs 6 stls 2 ast 1 blks :cool:
Diego Cavaco 17 pts 3 rbs

Belgrano:
Leonardo Peralta 12 pts 8 rbs
William Caudle 14 pts 6 rbs

Sionista 98 - 94 Atenas:

Sionista:
Michael Robinson 11 pts 8 rbs 8 ast 2 stls
Mariano Byro 27 pts
Mariano Franco 17 pts 6 ast 5 rbs
Alejandro Zilli 16 pts 10 rbs 4 ast

Atenas:
Bruno Labaque 27 pts 9 ast 5 stls 3 rbs :cool:

Central 86 - 80 Ben Hur

Central:
Gabriel Diaz 13 pts 8 rbs 2 stls
JM Rivero 19 pts (3/4 3PT)
Martin Trovellesi 14 pts 6 ast 4 stls
Nathaniel Green 14 pts 7 rbs 2 stls

Ben Hur:
Eduardo Villares 20 pts 3 ast
Lucas Picarelli 19 pts 4 rbs
Lamont Roland 14 pts 9 rbs 5 stls 2 ast

Dep Madryn 79 - 74 Obras

Madryn:
Ryan Carrol 32 pts 3 rbs 3 ast 2 stls 2 blks :eek:
William Sanders 20 pts 8 rbs 3 ast 3 blks

Obras:
Tyler Field 22 pts 9 rbs
Julian Olmedo 12 pts 6 ast 5 rbs

Estudiantes 95 - 78 Ciclista

Estudiantes:
Stalin Ortiz 32 pts (10/14FG, 10/13 FT) 5 rbs 2 stls:cool:
Gerardo Barrera 14 pts 5 rbs 2 ast 2 blks
Mariano Franco 11 pts 7 rbs 4 ast 2 stls 7 to:rolleyes:

Ciclista:
Marcus Fleming 17 pts 7 rbs
Diego Prego 20 pts 2 rbs

[carlosGC]

4th round
North Zone
belgrano 75 : benhur 72
regatas 93 : atenas 71
sionsita 95 : quimsa 75
central 74 : libertad 84

South Zone
estudiantes 89 : boca 99 30pts by Stalin Ortiz
gimnasia 91 : obras 74
madryn 105 : quilmes 92
peña 99 : ciclista 88

placings
--------
North Zone
Libertad, Sionista 7
Regatas, Ben-Hur, Belgrano, Atenas, Quimsa 6
Central Entrerriano 5

South Zone
Gimnasia, Deportivo Madryn, Peñarol 7
Boca, Quilmes 6
Ciclista, Obras, Estudiantes 5


Great numbers for Diego CAVACO (Libertad), Eduardo VILLARES (Ben Hur), and Ryan Carroll (Madryn).

Leaders from a statistical standpoint after 4 rounds

PTS
ORTIZ Stalin 113pts 28.2ppg
GARCÍA Diego 103pts 25.7
CARROLL Ryan 98pts 24.5
CAVACO Diego 85pts 21.2
FIELD Tyler Thomas 85pts 21.2
GUTIERREZ Leonardo 84pts 21
PITTMAN Abdul Joshua 83pts 20.7
VILLARES Eduardo 82pts 20.5


3PTS % (>=10 shots converted)
CAVACO Diego 19/35 54.3%
MASIERI Leandro 17/32 53.1%
GINÓBILI Sebastián 10/19 52.6%
LÁBAQUE Bruno 12/23 52.2%
GUTIERREZ Leonardo 17/34 50%
JONES Charles 13/26 50%
CARROLL Ryan 15/32 46.9%
VILLARES Eduardo 10/25 40%

2PTS % (>=10 shots converted)
SPILLERS Maurice 14/16 87.5% (playing for Boca Jrs)
FERRERO Diego 10/12 83.3%
SPILLERS Maurice 14/18 77.8% (playing for Ben Hur)
CAVACO Diego 10/14 71.4%
VILLARES Eduardo 21/30 70%
Mc FARLAN William 25/36 69.4%
FIELD Tyler Thomas 26/38 68.4%
CARROLL Ryan 21/31 67.7%
CARABAJAL Agustín 10/15 66.7%


Free throws % (>=10 free shot converted)
OSBORNE Jason 20/20 100%
RODRÍGUEZ Pablo S. 10/10 100%
RODRÍGUEZ Andrés 12/14 85.7%
FERREYRA Nicolás 12/14 85.7%
ROBINSON Clarence 17/20 85%
WILSON Byron Neal 16/19 84.2%
GINÓBILI Sebastián 21/25 84%
COLLA Carlos 15/18 83.3%


Rebounds (offensive + defensive)
LÓPEZ Roberto 11.2 rbs pg
GOMEZ CAMARGO Dionisio 9
FIELD Tyler Thomas 8.7
BROWN JR Robert 8.5
ZILLI Alejandro 8.5
LEIVA Martín 8
POOLE Eric 8
LEVY Jamaal 7.7
ROBINSON Clarence 7.5
SPILLERS Maurice 7.5
KEEP Jason 7.5
MAXEY Erron 7.2
ROBINSON Michael 6.7


Assists
LÁBAQUE Bruno 5 ast pg
ROLAND Lamont 4.5
OLMEDO Julián 4.2
MARTÍNEZ Enrique 4
ALBA Diego 4
COSTA Rafael 4

Blocks
BROWN JR Robert 1.7 blks pg
GOMEZ CAMARGO Dionisio 1.7
BROWN Raheim 1.7
GARNETT Christopher 1.7
KEEP Jason 1.2
OSBORNE Jason 1.2
SANDERS William 1.2


Steals
SPILLERS Maurice 2.75 stls pg (2 games played for Boca and 2 for Benhur)
ROLAND Lamont 2.7
Mc FARLAN William 2.7
MOLDÚ Pablo 2.5
PELUSSI Andrés 2.5
LÁBAQUE Bruno 2.2
DÍAZ Gabriel 2.2
GREEN Nathaniel 2.2


Turnovers
GINÓBILI Sebastián 4.2 to pg
GREEN Nathaniel 3.7
OLMEDO Julián 3.5

[Jokinen]

Puertorrican forward Carmelo Lee who signed for Regatas didn't had a very good debut with 1 pts (1/8 FG) and 3 rbs in 21 minutes, anyway it was his first game and he played without knowing his team mates, reports says that he has the potential to be a star in this league.

[carlosGC]

I'm not sure if it was forbidden last season, but i don't remember something like that happening last season, I am also surprised by so many early changes in the rosters


Well, I am sure now. Before, it was only possible to transfer a foreigner to TNA or other category below. Maurice Spillers became the first foreigner in history that on the same season of LNB will play for two different LNB teams. This occured because of a change in the regulation that now permitts it for the first time, previously it was only possible to transfer a foreigner to a category below.

News
* TNA Joseph Zalatel: Some people say he has some overweight, he will stay on El Nacional until next year. Evans who is injured will travel back to US and will return on January 2nd to replace Zalatel.

* Lábaque asked/suggested shooting guard Timothy Lee Jones for Atenas de Córdoba? Palladino rescinded a contract he had with CSKA Sofia, Bulgaria due to economic differences . It is said he could sign with Atenas, or Boca.

*Ciclista Juninense cut nigerian import Chima Igwe due to poor performances in Copa Argentina and Liga Nacional. They're are looking for a substitute.

[Jokinen]

Well, I am sure now. Before, it was only possible to transfer a foreigner to TNA or other category below. Maurice Spillers became the first foreigner in history that on the same season of LNB will play for two different LNB teams. This occured because of a change in the regulation that now permitts it for the first time, previously it was only possible to transfer a foreigner to a category below.


Great info, thanks Carlos.


*Ciclista Juninense cut nigerian import Chima Igwe due to poor performances in Copa Argentina and Liga Nacional. They're are looking for a substitute

It seems that Quentin Smith a 6'9" F/C will be Iwe's replacement. Smith is 28 years old and has played in Vicksburg High School, Mississippi College, Northern Kentucky (NCAA), Spain, Turkey, Lebanon, Norway and Uruguay among other countries

[carlosGC]

Estudiantes de Bahia Blanca accepted an invitation to participate in the "Haarlem Basketball week" @ Haarlem, Netherlands, the invitation was originally intended to go for Quilmes de Mar Del Plata, but they rejected to go.
Other teams that will participate include: Omniworld Almere (NL), BCI-Edge (USA), GEZIRA Sports Club (Egy), Soles Mexicali (Mex), Hanzevast Capitals Groningen (NL),Israel National Team and EiffelTowers Den Bosch (NL).
The event will take place from Dec 22nd-30th

[Jokinen]

As result of the participation of Boca Jrs and Gimnasia CR (both in the South group of the LNB) in the South American Clubs Championships, all the games of the South group were postponed.

In the North, Atenas got a great victory over Libertad 77-69 with a HUGE game by Diego Osella despite his 37 years old posting 26 pts and 5 rbs. The surprising Sionista clearly defeated Belgrano 102-80 to led the north group while Regatas and Quimsa also got victories.

Atenas 77 - 69 Libertad

Atenas:
Diego Osella 26 pts 5 rbs
Cristian Romero 15 pts 2 rbs
Leo Schattmann 14 pts

Libertad:
Dionisio Gomez 18 pts 4 rbs 2 stls
Diego Cavaco 15 pts 7 rbs 2 ast

Sionista 102 - 80 Belgrano

Sionista:
Alejandro Zilli 22 pts 4 rbs 4 ast 2 stls
Michael Robinson 22 pts 4 ast 2 rbs 2 blks
Quincy Alexander 21 pts 5 rbs 2 ast 2 stls

Belgrano:
Fernando Funes 23 pts 3 rbs 2 blks
Nicolas Ferreyra 15 pts 2 rbs 2 ast 2 stls

Regatas 94 - 84 Central

Regatas:
Diego Garcia 29 pts 6 ast:cool:
Carmelo Lee 14 pts 6 rbs
Sebastian Acosta 15 pts 3 rbs 2 ast 2 stls

Central:
Branduin Fullove 18 pts 6 rbs 4 ast
JM Rivero 16 pts 2 rbs
Gabriel Diaz 14 pts 5 rbs 2 ast

Quimsa 88 - 78 Ben Hur

Quimsa:
Robert Brown Jr 25 pts 8 rbs 3 stls
Julio Mazzaro 19 pts 2 rbs

Ben Hur:
Damian Tintorelli 20 pts 6 rbs
Lamont Rolland 14 pts 5 rbs 5 stls
Lucas Picarrelli 14 pts 5 rbs 2 ast 2 stls

[Jokinen]

Due the participation of Boca Jrs and Gimnasia CR in the South American Clubs Championship, only five games of the sixth round were played.

Regatas continues to play very solid basketball, even if Alejandro Montecchia is still injured, as they defeated Belgrano 94 - 72. At Parana the surprising Sionista defeated Central Entrerriano to remain in the first place of the north group. At Cordoba a recovered Atenas got a very valuable victory against Ben Hur from Rafaela. Also Libertad defeated Quimsa the same as Peñarol with Estudiantes.

Regatas 94 - 72 Belgrano

Diego Garcia 21 pts 5 ast 2 rbs
Roberto Lopez 12 pts 14 rbs 2 ast
Sebastian Acosta 18 pts 4 ast

Belgrano:
Fernando Funes 14 pts 4 rbs
Carlos Colla 14 pts 4 rbs

Sionista 78 - 67 Central

Sionista:
Michael Robinson 24 pts 6 rbs 2 stls
Mariano Byro 16 pts 4 rbs
Alejandro Zilli 10 pts 9 rbs 3 ast 3 stls

Central:
Gabriel Diaz 15 pts 3 ast 3 rbs
Ezequiel Dentis 11 pts 11 rbs

Atenas 86 - 80 Ben Hur

Atenas:
Bruno Labaque 18 pts 5 rbs 4 ast 2 stls
William Mc Farlan 18 pts 5 rbs 2 ast
Leonel Schattmann 14 pts 3 ast 2 rbs
Diego Osella 14 pts 4 rbs

Ben Hur:
Jamar Brown 20 pts 12 rbs
Eduardo Villares 18 pts 3 rbs 3 ast

Quimsa 83 - 99 Libertad

Libertad:
Andres Pelussi 16 pts 10 rbs 2 ast 2 stls
Dionisio Gomez 16 pts 6 rbs
Jorge Benitez 15 pts 4 rbs
Leopoldo Ruiz Moreno 15 pts 3 rbs

Quimsa:
Fernando Small 18 pts 9 rbs
Erron Maxey 18 pts 5 rbs

Estudiantes 70 - Peñarol 81

Peñarol:
Josh Pittman 23 pts 8 rbs 2 ast
Sebastian Festa 14 pts

Estudiantes:
Stalin Ortiz 21 pts
Mariano Franco 16 pts 4 ast 2 rbs
Jamal Levy 11 pts 8 rbs 2 stls 2 blks

[carlosGC]

Due the participation of Boca Jrs and Gimnasia CR in the South American Clubs Championship, only five games of the sixth round were played.


Actually, they were four, all of them from the north zone. The 5th and 6th rounds of the south zone will be played on the 6th and 8th of November, respectively. The Estudiantes - Peñarol match was advanced, it was supposed to be played in the 13th round, I really don't know why they played the past Sunday considering Estudiantes had two players injured: Gerardo Barrera and Mariano Pizzo. It was pretty foolish if you ask me, now Estudiantes is "sinking fast" (la van a tener que remar fuerte en la segunda fase), nevertheless this was very predictable considering the team was initially formed to face TNA competition.
Estudiantes might have a chance today, for Cocha from Gimnasia Comodoro is injured, and Gimnasia team might be tired they come from playing five consecutive games last week in the South American Clubs Championship. If Estudiantes don't win today, they're going down :rolleyes: :( (no, wait... they're already there).



...The surprising Sionista clearly defeated Belgrano 102-80 ...


Indeed, they're achieving; undefeated playing as locals. Let's see if they can keep it up as visitors against Belgrano and Central, not very tough rivals btw. Also they haven't played against Regatas.

[carlosGC]

Estudiantes - Gimnasia
25-24 1stq
51-37 2ndq
82-49 garbage time
94-64 garbage time

Transfers update
* Fred Williams former Argentino de Junín (LNB 2004-2005,2005-2006) replaces McFarlan in Atenas.
* Branduinn Fullove was cut from Central Entrerriano, will be substitued by Williard Ford, a former Seattle Supersonic, Peñarol de Mar Del Plata(LNB 2004-2005), and Boca Jrs (LNB 2005-2006).
* Also, in Central Entrerriano Eric Martin supplanted Nathaniel Green.
* Nathaniel Green signed for Belgrano de San Nicolás.

[Jokinen]

OMG!!! Stalin Ortiz just posted 50 pts 10 rbs and 6 stls in Estudiantes victory over Dep Madryn 109-85 for the 8th round. he is the Colombian KOBE!!! :cool:

Full stats for rounds 7 and 8 tomorrow


Indeed, they're achieving; undefeated playing as locals. Let's see if they can keep it up as visitors against Belgrano and Central, not very tough rivals btw. Also they haven't played against Regatas.

Well Sionista lost against Central, but they are in the right way anyway and Mariano Byro is exploding this season he scored 27 pts tonight

[Jokinen]

The seventh round was full of surprises as Boca Jrs after winning their third consecutive SouthAmerican Clubs Championship lost to Obras 80-89, The defending Champions Gimnasia lost by 30 pts!!! to Estudiantes BB, Sionista was defeated by Belgrano SN while Regatas was also defeated by Central at Entrerrios 89-81

Peñarol 90 - 75 Dep Madryn

Peñarol:
Josh Pittman 22 pts 4 ast
Jason Ousborne 16 pts 7 rbs 2 ast
Gabriel Mikulas 13 pts 9 rbs 2 ast 2 stls
Sebastian Rodriguez 13 pts 7 ast 2 rbs

Madryn:
Andres Rodriguez 16 pts 7 rbs
William Sanders 18 pts 6 rbs

Central 89 - 81 Regatas

Central:
Ezequiel Dentis 30 pts 9 rbs 5 stls:cool:
Williard Ford 18 pts 7 rbs 3 ast 2 stls 2 blks
Gabriel Diaz 15 pts 6 rbs

Regatas:
Diego Garcia 23 pts 5 rbs 4 ast
Jason Keep 16 pts 13 rbs 2 ast
Diego Romero 15 pts 3 rbs

Libertad 76 - 79 Atenas

Atenas:
Bruno Labaque 25 pts 5 ast 2 rbs
Fred Williams 17 pts 9 rbs

Libertad:
Andres Pelussi 13 pts 12 rbs 3 ast 3 stls
Cleotis Brown 18 pts 2 rbs

Belgrano 94 - 87 Sionista

Belgrano:
Nate Green 18 pts 9 rbs
Fernando Funes 15 pts 3 stls 2 ast
Nicolas Ferreyra 12 pts 4 ast 3 rbs

Sionista:
Mariano Byro 21 pts 4 ast 3 rbs 2 stls
Mike Robinson 17 pts 8 rbs 4 ast 6 to:rolleyes:
Quincy Alexander 14 pts 6 rbs 3 ast

Boca 80 - 89 Obras

Obras:
Tyler Field 20 pts 9 rbs 2 stls
Raheim Brown 21 pts 4 rbs
Patricio Rodriguez 15 pts 5 ast 3 rbs 2 stls

Boca:
Raymundo Legaria 20 pts 5 rbs 3 stls
Leo Gutierrez 21 pts 3 rbs

Estudiantes 94 - 64 Gimnasia CR

Estudiantes:
Stalin Ortiz 19 pts 3 rbs 3 ast
Mariano Franco 17 pts 8 rbs 2 stls
Jamal Levy 15 pts 10 rbs 2 ast

Gimnasia:
Nicolas de los Santos 11 pts 2 rbs 2 ast 2 stls

Ben Hur 81 - 77 Quimsa

Ben Hur:
Lamont Roland 22 pts 12 rbs 5 ast
Lucas Piccarelli 13 pts 5 ast 4 stls 2 rbs
Eduardo Villares 15 pts 3 rbs 2 ast

Quimsa:
Erron Maxey 26 pts 6 rbs
Robert Brown Jr 18 pts 6 rbs

Ciclista 64 - 77 Quilmes

Quilmes:
Sebastian Ginobili 15 pts 5 ast 3 rbs 2 stls
Ramzee Stanton 14 pts 10 rbs 3 stls

Ciclista:
Quentin Smith 13 pts 12 rbs

[Jokinen]

Peñarol 80 - 68 Gimnasia CR

Peñarol:
Josh Pittman 16 pts 4 rbs 4 ast 2 stls 2 blks
Jason Ousborne 14 pts 9 rbs
Sebastian Rodriguez 10 pts 8 ast

Gimnasia:
Charles Jones 16 pts 3 rbs 2 ast
Leandro Masieri 15 pts 4 rbs

Belgrano 76 - 80 Regatas

Regatas:
Diego Garcia 25 pts 7 rbs 3 ast :cool:
Jason Keep 17 pts 9 rbs 2 ast
Caremlo Lee 16 pts 4 rbs

Belgrano:
Nate Green 21 pts 5 rbs 3 stls 2 ast
Leonardo Peralta 17 pts 4 rbs

Boca Jrs 87 - 80 Quilmes

Boca:
Leo Gutierrez 26 pts 9 rbs 3 stls
Martin Leiva 12 pts 13 rbs 4 stls
Raimundo Legaria 21 pts (7/9 3PT):eek:

Quilmes:
Pedro Calderon 16 pts 12 rbs 2 ast 2 stls
Sebastian Ginobili 23 pts 2 rbs
Clarence Robinson 17 pts 7 rbs

Ben Hur 88 - 83 Atenas

Ben Hur:
Jamar Brown 15 pts 15 rbs 2 bks
Eduardo Villares 24 pts 2 rbs 2 stls
Lucas Picarelli 17 pts 3 rbs 3 ast

Atenas:
Leonel Schattmann 22 pts (5/7 3PT) 2 stls
Terrell Taylor 16 pts 8 rbs
Fred Williams 14 pts 12 rbs 2 ast
Bruno Labaque 14 pts 4 ast 3 stls 2 rbs

Estudiantes 109 - 85 Dep Madryn

Estudiantes:
Stalin Ortiz 50 pts (11/14 FT, 19/34 FG) 10 rbs 6 stls 2 ast 1 blk 6 to:eek: :eek: :cool:
Jamal Levy 18 pts 11 rbs 5 stls 2 ast 2 blks
Fernando Titarelli 10 pts 6 ast 5 rbs
Mariano Franco 13 pts 3 rbs 2 ast 2 stls

Madryn:
William Sanders 23 pts 3 rbs 2 ast
Jonathan Treise 15 pts 5 rbs 2 ast
Andres Rodriguez 15 pts 8 rbs

Libertad 70 - 72 Quimsa

Quimsa:
Julio Mazzaro 23 pts 5 rbs 3 ast 2 stls
Robert Brown Jr 18 pts 10 rbs
Alejandro Reinick 16 pts 6 rbs

Libertad:
Andres Pelussi 18 pts 9 rbs 3 ast 2 stls

Central 96 - 87 Sionista

Central:
Gabriel Diaz 24 pts 9 rbs 2 ast
Ezequiel Dentis 15 pts 14 rbs 4 stls

Sionista:
Mariano Byro 27 pts 2 rbs
Quincy Alexander 13 pts 10 rbs

Ciclista 88 - 86 Obras

Ciclista:
Marcus Fleming 27 pts 9 rbs 2 ast
Diego Prego 19 pts 4 rbs
Fernando Martina 14 pts 8 rbs

Obras:
Tyler Field 24 pts 12 rbs
Patricio Rodriguez 18 pts 3 stls 2 rbs 2 ast

[carlosGC]

OMG!!! Stalin Ortiz just posted 50 pts 10 rbs and 6 stls in Estudiantes victory over Dep Madryn 109-85 for the 8th round. he is the Colombian KOBE!!!

Yes, they were many repercussions after the match. It's not that i do not appreciate what he just did, BUT with the 9 attempts for threes he took(making only one), he should have at least scored 56pts :D. Anyhow I'm content because Estudiantes won, nothing else to critize, he was really good in every other aspect.
Stalin Ortiz now averages 29ppg and became the twentieth player, which reached/surpassed the 50pts in LNB competitions. Héctor "Pichi" Campana, the maximum scorer of LNB reached/surpassed the 50pt barrier 12 times. The LNB record is for Andrew Moten playing for Gimnasia de Comodoro made 63pts against GEPU in the semifinal of LNB 92/93.

ORTIZ Stalin 50pts (q1: 13pts, q2: 12pts, q3: 13pts, q4: 12pts)
19/34FG:
The good: 18/25(72%)2ptFG
the bad: 1/9(11%)3ptFG
the evil: 50pts

[Jokinen]

Yes, they were many repercussions after the match. It's not that i do not appreciate what he just did, BUT with the 9 attempts for threes he took(making only one), he should have at least scored 56pts :D. Anyhow I'm content because Estudiantes won, nothing else to critize, he was really good in every other aspect.
Stalin Ortiz now averages 29ppg and became the twentieth player, which reached/surpassed the 50pts in LNB competitions. Héctor "Pichi" Campana, the maximum scorer of LNB reached/surpassed the 50pt barrier 12 times. The LNB record is for Andrew Moten playing for Gimnasia de Comodoro made 63pts against GEPU in the semifinal of LNB 92/93.

ORTIZ Stalin 50pts (q1: 13pts, q2: 12pts, q3: 13pts, q4: 12pts)
19/34FG:
The good: 18/25(72%)2ptFG
the bad: 1/9(11%)3ptFG
the evil: 50pts

Ja ja ja :D good post, altouhg I believe it is Wilfredo Ruiz who holds the record for more points in one game.

Now about Ortiz, unfortunately I haven't seen him play, but I wonder how far can he go?, I know he is not in his teens and our league might not be that strong, but its really hard to average 29 ppg here in our league. He seems to be very hard to stop, I know that not all the players have the chance to take 34 shots and anyone who takes so many shots should average a good number of points, but still he seems to be impossible to guard.

He is what? 6'3 or 6'4", he is 25 years old, does he have what it takes to succed in international bball,is he earning him self a future in Europe??, it's just to soon to even talk about it:D ?

[carlosGC]

More Transfers

* Belgrano signed Chima Igwe, recently cut from Central.
* Ben Hur signed Tai Crutchfield, dropped Lamont Roland who traveled back to the USA due to family problems; Ben Hur also cut Jamar Brown, and signed William McFarlan, recently cut from Atenas. (Ben Hur se lleva y prueba el descarte de Atenas hasta ahora)
* Gimnasia signed Jamar Brown, cut Chris Garnett.
* Regatas signs Román González, will drop Diego Romero.
* Gimnasia might sign Diego Romero.

OK, i'm fed up with all these crazy constant and unending transfers, one does not even know where the foreigners are playing, nevertheless there are more on the way.



... although I believe it is Wilfredo Ruiz who holds the record for more points in one game.
No. Wilfredo Ruiz with 60pts only holds the "team record" for Estudiantes de Bahía Blanca playing against Deportivo San Andrés in LNB 85'.



....Now about Ortiz, unfortunately I haven't seen him play, but I wonder how far can he go? ...
He is what? 6'3 or 6'4", he is 25 years old, does he have what it takes to succed in international bball, is he earning him self a future in Europe??, it's just to soon to even talk about it ?

Too many questions. Wait till I go out, buy a crystal sphere and then I'll try and see if I can foresee into his future :D. Now seriously, for the time being lets only say he is just a good player Estudiantes (a team which has as a primary objetive to maintain the category) has on it's squad who can score against many teams with ease but sometimes he is not that effective and takes many shots per game, same as Diego García, Leo Gutierrez or Bruno Lábaque (just to name a few) whom always guarantee points; I'm not sure what you meant by "succeed in international bball", I assume it was "succeed in Europe". I suppose he could play, succeed? who knows. And yes, it's too soon :P (too soon for him to leave Estudiantes :D).

[Matzelino1206]

Can anyone of the Argentina experts guess what good players can make in your country's top division?

Salaries have to be decent, if they were low, I would see no reason why European teams do not "fish these rich grounds" in Argentina for great and affordable talent more.

[Jokinen]

Can anyone of the Argentina experts guess what good players can make in your country's top division?

Salaries have to be decent, if they were low, I would see no reason why European teams do not "fish these rich grounds" in Argentina for great and affordable talent more.

The top players earn around 30000 to 35000 Argentinian pesos per month which is about 10500-13500 US dollars, I guess its not much compared with Euro salaries, the thing is that actually Euro teams are constantly "fishing this grounds" as there are more than 200 Argentinian players playing abroad. You could make almost 20 rosters only with Argentinian players playing abroad.
Anyway I still believe that many of the LNB top players are still here cause they prefer to earn less money but play for something important than to go to a 2nd or third Division in Spain or Italy.

[Jokinen]

Peñarol remains as the best team so far as they got another victory this time by 36 pts against Obras. Sionista recovered from two straight losses and remains on top of the north group as they defeated Libertad by scoring 8 pts in the last 3 seconds :eek: of the game when Libertad was ahead by 5 pts :eek:

Peñarol 102 - 66 Obras

Peñarol:
Sebastian Rodriguez 23 pts 9 ast 5 rbs
Josh Pittman 17 pts 2 stls

Obras:
Tyler Field 18 pts 4 rbs
Raheim Brown 15 pts 4 rbs

Sionista 87 - 84 Libertad

Sionista:
Michael Robinson 23 pts 4 rbs 3 stls
Mariano Byro 18 pts 4 ast 2 rbs

Libertad:
Cleotis Brown 22 pts 3 rbs 2 ast 2 stls
Andres Pelussi 12 pts 5 rbs 3 ast 2 stls

Belgrano 82 - 105 Atenas

Atenas:
Bruno Labaque 38 pts 3 stls 2 ast 2 rbs :cool:
Terrell Taylor 17 pts 9 rbs

Belgrano:
Maxi Riolfo 17 pts 3 rbs
Carlos Colla 15 pts 4 rbs 4 stls 2 ast

Dep Madryn 73 - 74 Boca Jrs

Boca:
Lazaro Borrell 26 pts 12 rbs :cool:
Maurice Spillers 20 pts 6 rbs 3 stls
Martin Leiva 10 pts 11 rbs 2 ast 10 to :rolleyes:

Madryn:
Alejandro Burgos 19 pts 9 rbs 3 blks
Andres Rodriguez 18 pts 8 rbs 4 ast 4 stls
William Sanders 17 pts 4 rbs 3 ast

Gimnasia 88 - 78 Ciclista

Gimnasia:
Leandro Masieri 27 pts (9/14 3PtFG) 3 rbs
Pablo Moldu 25 pts 5 rbs 4 stls 2 ast

Ciclista:
Marcus Fleming 26 pts 5 rbs
Rafael Costa 13 pts 4 rbs 3 ast 2 stls

Regatas 69 - 79 Ben Hur

Ben Hur:
Eduardo Villares 28 pts 4 ast 2 stls
Damian Tintorelli 22 pts 11 rbs
William Mc Farlan 14 pts 5 rbs 2 stls

Regatas:
Jason Keep 10 pts 13 rbs 2 blks
Roberto Lopez 14 pts 8 rbs 5 stls 2 ast

Estudiantes 83 - 97 Quilmes

Quilmes:
Clarence Robinson 31 pts 10 rbs:cool:
Enrique Martinez 22 pts 4 rbs 3 ast

Estudiantes:
Stalin Ortiz 34 pts 7 rbs :cool:
Jamal Levy 13 pts 10 rbs

Central 86 - 100 Quimsa

Quimsa:
Robert Brown Jr 29 pts 7 rbs 2 ast
Erron Maxey 21 pts 6 rbs 3 stls
Fernando Small 15 pts 2 rbs 2 stls

Central:
Ezequiel Dentis 20 pts 10 rbs 4 stls
Eric Martin 19 pts 3 rbs
Gabriel Diaz 17 pts 4 rbs 2 stls
Williard Ford 15 pts 3 rbs 3 ast

[carlosGC]

* Regatas signs Román González, will drop Diego Romero.
* Gimnasia might sign Diego Romero.

:eek: :eek: :eek:
Román González signed with Ittihad Jeddah of Saudi Arabia.

[carlosGC]

Salaries have to be decent, if they were low, I would see no reason why European teams do not "fish these rich grounds" in Argentina for great and affordable talent more.


:eek: Not only European teams. See above post.

[Jokinen]

:eek: Not only European teams. See above post.

:D :D well they have petrodollars...

[carlosGC]

* Regatas cut Carmelo Lee, displaced by the North American Silas Mills.
* Juan Espil ended his contract with Bilbao(Spain), I think he arrives to Bahía Blanca this weekend. Hope he signs with Estudiantes. But that may be hoping too much, he'll surely prioritize "European team" options.

The first phase of LNB just ended. The tournament is postponed until Dec 2nd (the start of 2nd phase). The best four teams of each zone qualified for the Super8 which will take place from Nov 22nd to the 26th in Ruca Che Arena, Neuquen. Due to the incidents in Puerto Madryn after the game with Ciclista, two pts (minus one when 1st phase is over) were taken away from them, thus leaving them out of the Super8 Tournament.
The second phase is one single zone of sixteen teams, and all teams drag 50 percent of 1st phase points.
Each team plays in turn against every other (one game as local, the other as visitor), so each team will contend in 30 matches. This second stage determines which teams qualify for playoff quarter-finals, and which teams loose the category.



1st Phase Final Standings

South Zone
PEÑAROL (MP) 25
QUILMES (MP) 23
GIMN. y ESGR. (C) 22
BOCA JUNIORS 21
DEPORTIVO MADRYN 19
CICLISTA JUNINENSE 19
OBRAS SANITARIAS 19
ESTUDIANTES (BB) 18

North Zone
JUVENTUD SIONISTA 23
QUIMSA 22
REGATAS (C) 22
ATENAS 22
BEN HUR 22
DEPORTIVO LIBERTAD 21
CENTRAL ENTRERRIANO 19
BELGRANO (SN) 17





PTS for 2nd phase

PEÑAROL (MP) 12.5 pts
JUVENTUD SIONISTA 11.5
GIMN. y ESGR. (C) 11
QUIMSA 11
REGATAS (C) 11
ATENAS 11
BEN HUR 11
QUILMES (MP) 11.5
BOCA JUNIORS 10.5
DEPORTIVO MADRYN 10.5
DEPORTIVO LIBERTAD 10.5
CICLISTA JUNINENSE 9.5
OBRAS SANITARIAS 9.5
CENTRAL ENTRERRIANO 9.5
ESTUDIANTES (BB) 9
BELGRANO (SN) 8.5

[rikhardur]

Who are currently the top scorers and rebounders of LNB?

[Jokinen]

Who are currently the top scorers and rebounders of LNB?

Sorry I've been very busy (I just opened a business in a Shopping Center and I'm still working in my old job, so I wasn't able to update this thread)

Pts:

1 ORTÍZ Stalin (Colombia) Estudiantes 25,9
2 GARCÍA Diego (Argentina) Regatas 24,9
3 BROWN Robert (EEUU) Quimsa 21,0
4 GUTIÉRREZ Leonardo (Argentina) Boca Juniors 20,2
5 ROBINSON Clarence (EEUU) Quilmes 20,1

Rebounds:

1 KEEP Jason (EEUU) Regatas 9,9
2 LEIVA Martín (Argentina) Boca Juniors 9,1
3 LEVY Jamaal (Panama) Estudiantes 8,9
4 FIELD Tyler (EEUU) Obras Sanitarias 8,6
5 ZILLI Alejandro (Argentina) Sionista 8,2
5 LÓPEZ Roberto (Argentina) Regatas 8,2

Asts:

1 COSTA Rafael (Argentina) Ciclista 4,8
2 RODRÍGUEZ Sebastián (Argentina) Peñarol 4,6
3 LÁBAQUE Bruno (Argentina) Atenas 4,0
4 GARCÍA Diego (Argentina) Regatas 3,9
5 GINÓBILI Sebastián (Argentina) Quilmes 3,6

Steals:

1 LÁBAQUE Bruno (Argentina) Atenas 2,86
2 MOLDÚ Pablo (Argentina) Gimnasia 2,86
3 DENTIS Ezequiel (Argentina) C. Entrerriano 2,21
4 PELUSSI Andrés (Argentina) Libertad 1,86
5 SPILLERS Maurice (EEUU) Ben Hur (Raf) / Boca 1,79

Blocks:

1 LEIVA Martín (Argentina) Boca Juniors 1,2
2 BROWN Raheim (EEUU) Obras Sanitarias 1,2
3 McFARLAN William (EEUU) Atenas / Ben Hur 1,2
4 BURGOS Alejandro (Argentina) Deportivo Madryn 1,1
5 FORD Williard (EEUU) C. Entrerriano 1,1
6 GÓMEZ Dionisio (Panama) Libertad 1,1

EFF. Pts:

1 ROBINSON Clarence (EEUU) Quilmes 21,14 (20.1 ppg 6.4 rpg 1.4 apg)

2 BROWN Robert (EEUU) Quimsa 21,07 (21 ppg 7.1 rpg 1.7 apg)

3 GARCÍA Diego (Argentina) Regatas 20,86 (24.9 ppg 4.4 rpg 3.9 apg 1.4 spg)

4 FIELD Tyler (EEUU) Obras Sanitarias 20,57 (17.7 ppg 8.6 rpg 1.1 spg)

5 LÁBAQUE Bruno (Argentina) Atenas 19,86 (19.5 ppg 4 apg 3 rpg 2.9 spg)

[rikhardur]

No problem Jokinen :) Thanks ;)

[alermac]

Kind of left behind, huh?;)

The trend of foreigners being signed and released is really amazing. Just for this holidays, players like Jason Keep, William Sanders and Dionisio Gómez got cut. But the new signings aren't bad (Chris Jackson, Larry Florence, Robert Battle and Dionisio Gómez himself:rolleyes: ).

Plus, during december many good Americans were released (Silas Mills and Raheim Brown are some examples; Mills wound up replacing Brown). It seems that coaches either don't know what they need from them, or perhaps they don't know who they are signing.

The ggod thing is that a new rule allows teams to sign players who already played for other LNB clubs. Some foreigners who played for two teams are Maurice Spillers (Ben Hur and Boca), Jamar Brown (Atenas, Ben Hur and Gimnasia CR, they all released him), Chima Igwe (Belgrano and Ciclista, both released him), Gómez and Mills.

[alermac]

Standiins after Holidays break (22 of 44 games played)

1-Quilmes MdP 26,5
2-Peñarol MdP 26,5
3-Boca Juniors 24,5
4-Gimnasia CR 24
5-Ben Hur Rafaela 24
6-Sionista Paraná 23,5
7-Libertad Sunchales 23,5
8-Regatas Corrientes 23
9-Quimsa Santiago 23
10-Atenas Córdoba 22
11-Ciclista Juninense 21,5
12-Estudiantes Bahía Blanca 21
13-Deportivo Madryn 19,5
14-Central Entrerriano 19,5
15-Obras 19,5
16-Belgrano San Nicolás 17,5

Scorers:

Diego García (ARG - SG - Regatas) 24,4
Stalin Ortiz (COL - SG - Estudiantes) 24,1
Chuckie Robinson (USA - PF - Quilmes) 20,2
Robert Brown (USA - PF - Quimsa) 19,5
Leo Gutiérrez (ARG - PF - Boca) 19,3

Rebounders:

Martín Leiva* (ARG - C - Boca) 9,4
Jason Keep (USA - C - cut by Regatas) 9,0
Tyler Field (USA - C - Obras) 8,5
Jamaal Levy (PAN - PF/C - Estudiantes) 8,3
Quincy Alexander (USA - PF - Sionista) 8,0

Passers:

Pablo Sebastián Rodríguez (ARG - PG - Peñarol) 4,3
Rafa Costa (ARG - PG - Ciclista) 4,2
Bruno Lábaque (ARG - PG/SG - Atenas) 3,9
Sebastián Ginóbili** (ARG - PG - Quilmes) 3,8
Cristian Cadillac (ARG - PG - Madryn) 3,3

*Possibly the worst FT shooter in the world: 35% this season, and that's an improvement. Not kidding.
**Manu's older brother

[ARIS WORLD FANS]

why dont play in this league River Plate??

[alermac]

why dont play in this league River Plate??
They finished last season owing U$S 300000 to players and coach and failed to reach an agreement on how to pay them, so they got kicked out of the league. Days later, the league gave their playing rights to Estudiantes Bahía Blanca, that was playing in TNA (2º division)

[alermac]

Standings after 36 of 44 games:

1-Peñarol MdP 49,5
2-Quilmes MdP 48,5
3-Libertad Sunchales 46,5
4-Boca Juniors 45,5*
5-Sionista Paraná 45,5
6-Estudiantes Bahía Blanca 45
7-Ben Hur Rafaela 45
8-Gimnasia CR 44
9-Quimsa Santiago 43*
10-Deportivo Madryn 42,5
11-Regatas Corrientes 41*
12-Atenas Córdoba 40*
13-Ciclista Juninense 39,5
14-Obras 38,5*
15-Central Entrerriano 38,5
16-Belgrano San Nicolás 33,5*

(*)= Have played one game less than the others, so they'll add 1 or 2 more points.

A few comments:

-Estudiantes and Sionista are the biggest surprises so far. Both teams are composed with mostly TNA (second division) players but are between the best. Estudiantes amazingly won every game since releasing LNB top scorer Stalin Ortiz (he wanted to leave the club because of a better offer in Spanish LEB).

-Atenas is having a nightmare season. They've fired the coach, they made multiple signings and releasings of foreigners, and nothing improves. They got trashed by Boca 79-55 yesterday. And there are rumors that they may strike a commercial alliance with local football club Belgrano, seeing more sponsorship and attendace.

-Regatas shocked the market with a big budget and big signings; but injuries, bad coaching and multiple roster changes have them underachieving.

-Belgrano is almost doomed. Obras, Central and Ciclista fight to avoid being relegated too.

-Central is another big disappointment. They have a very good roster, and made some big signings during the season (Panama NT C Antonio García, former Wizards F/C Randell Jackson, former Tau & Argentina NT G/F Leandro Palladino), but they keep losing anyway.

[alermac]

Standings after 41 of 44 games:

1 Peñarol MdP 58.5 (30-11)
2 Libertad Sunchales 56.5 (27-14)
3 Boca 56.5 (25-17; has played 1 more match)
4 Quilmes MdP 55.5 (26-15)
5 Ben Hur Rafaela 53 (23-18)
6 Sionista Paraná 52.5 (23-18)
7 Quimsa Santiago 52 (22-19)
8 Regatas Corrientes 51 (21-20)
9 Estudiantes Bahía Blanca 50 (18-23)
10 Gimnasia CR 50 (20-21)
11 Atenas Córdoba 50 (20-21)
12 Deportivo Madryn 49.5 (20-21)
13 Central Entrerriano 46.5 (15-26)
14 Obras 45.5 (14-27)
15 Ciclista Juninense 45.5 (15-26; has played one less match)
16 Belgrano San Nicolás 42.5 (10-31; already relegated to TNA)

[alermac]

Regular Season over:

1 Peñarol 62,5
2 Libertad 61,5
3 Boca Juniors 59,5
4 Quilmes 59,5
5 Regatas 57
6 Quimsa 57
7 Ben Hur 56
8 Madryn 55,5
9 Sionista 55,5
10 Estudiantes 55
11 Atenas 54
12 Gimnasia 53
13 Central 52,5
14 Obras Sanitarias 51,5
15 Ciclista 51,5 (x)
16 Belgrano 45,5 (x)

(x) Relegated to TNA (2º division)

Obras won its last two games against Quilmes, including an away game with a Byron Wilson score with :05 left.

First round of playoffs:

Regatas (5º) vs. Gimnasia (12º)
Quimsa (6º) vs. Atenas (11º)
Ben Hur (7º) vs. Estudiantes (10º)
Deportivo Madryn (8º) vs. Sionista (9º)

[milonadin]

Can somebody please give me a scouting report on Jamaal Levy . Thank you very much

[alermac]

Playoffs: first round, best of 5. Winners will play quarterfinals.

(5) Regatas 1 - (12) Gimnasia 1
(6) Quimsa 1 - (11) Atenas 1
(7) Ben Hur 2 - (10) Estudiantes 0
(8) Dep. Madryn 1 - (9) Sionista 1

[alermac]

Playoffs: first round, best of 5. Winners will play quarterfinals.

(5) Regatas 1 - (12) Gimnasia 1
(6) Quimsa 1 - (11) Atenas 1
(7) Ben Hur 2 - (10) Estudiantes 0
(8) Dep. Madryn 1 - (9) Sionista 1
I kind of abandoned this a little...

(5) Regatas Corrientes 3 - (12) Gimnasia Com. Riv. 1
(6) Quimsa Santiago 1 - (11) Atenas Córdoba 3
(7) Ben Hur Rafaela 3 - (10) Estudiantes Bahía Blanca 1
(8) Deportivo Madryn 3 - (9) Sionista Paraná 2

Quarterfinals so far:

(1) Peñarol Mar del Plata 2 - (8) Atenas 0
(2) Libertad Sunchales 2 - (7) Dep. Madryn 0
(3) Boca Juniors 0 - (6) Ben Hur 2:D
(4) Quilmes Mar del Plata 1 - (5) Regatas 1

[alermac]

Quarterfinals so far:

(1) Peñarol Mar del Plata 2 - (8) Atenas 0
(2) Libertad Sunchales 2 - (7) Dep. Madryn 0
(3) Boca Juniors 0 - (6) Ben Hur 2:D
(4) Quilmes Mar del Plata 1 - (5) Regatas 1
Peñarol swept Atenas 3-0.
Libertad beat Madryn 3-1.
Boca Jrs, after losing the first two games at home, won two away and the beat Ben Hur 3-2.
Regatas closed the series against Quilmes at home: 3-1.

So:

1) Peñarol vs 5) Regatas
2) Libertad vs 3) Boca

[alermac]

Semifinals so far:

Peñarol 2 - Regatas 0 (two tight wins, with Regatas players slowed down by injuries)

Libertad 2 - Boca 0 (two crushing wins; Boca is simply sucking right now)
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2007/05/07/fotos/f060gh04.jpg

[alermac]

El Nacional/Monte Hermoso (beach city of nearly 7000 -that's right, no zeroes missing- located near Bahía Blanca, city where the club is originally from) earned the promotion to LNB A after sweeping Olimpia Venado Tuerto 3-0. Olimpia's roster included veteran SF Jorge Racca (former Gran Canaria, Greek league, Reggio Calabria, Napoli, Tenerife and National Team among others) in the last game of the series.

[alermac]

Regatas won game 3 against Peñarol 90-83, now series is 1-2.

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2007/05/10/fotos/f034ch02.jpg
Regatas SG Sebastián Acosta, who scored his team's last nine points, drives past Peñarol SG José Muruaga.

[alermac]

Boca beat Libertad at home and the series is 1-2.

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2007/05/12/fotos/f032eh04.jpg
Boca and NT PF Leo Gutiérrez drives past Libertad SF Diego Cavaco.

Independiente of Neuquén (city of 300.000 located in the Patagonian north) earned the promotion to Liga A by beating Pedro Echagüe of Buenos Aires 3-1.

[alermac]

Sorry, my fellow users!

Today the Finals started, and Boca shocked Peñarol 61-57 in Mar del Plata, in front of 7000 Peñarol fans.

(And yes, Boca turned around the series against Libertad, from 0-2 to 3-2. Boca also did this in the quarterfinals against Ben Hur)

[alermac]

Boca Juniors completed a stunner, winning the Finals 4-2 in an incredibly even series:

Peñarol 57 - Boca Juniors 61
Peñarol 77 - Boca Juniors 75
Boca Juniors 57 - Peñarol 58
Boca Juniors 77 - Peñarol 74
Peñarol 58 - Boca Juniors 66
Boca Juniors 89 - Peñarol 81

PF Leo Gutiérrez was declared Finals MVP because of his 15.5 ppg, and his Game 6 performance: 22 pts and 6/6 threes.

[Jokinen]

Kind of left behind, huh?;)

The trend of foreigners being signed and released is really amazing. Just for this holidays, players like Jason Keep, William Sanders and Dionisio Gómez got cut. But the new signings aren't bad (Chris Jackson, Larry Florence, Robert Battle and Dionisio Gómez himself:rolleyes: ).

Plus, during december many good Americans were released (Silas Mills and Raheim Brown are some examples; Mills wound up replacing Brown). It seems that coaches either don't know what they need from them, or perhaps they don't know who they are signing.

The ggod thing is that a new rule allows teams to sign players who already played for other LNB clubs. Some foreigners who played for two teams are Maurice Spillers (Ben Hur and Boca), Jamar Brown (Atenas, Ben Hur and Gimnasia CR, they all released him), Chima Igwe (Belgrano and Ciclista, both released him), Gómez and Mills.

Yep, my fault..., Sorry everyone I'been busy during the past six months, but from now on I'll start posting again.

I want to welcome Alermac who is very respeced in Argentinian basketball forums