EL 06/07 Round 7

[Basket_]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 2
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 2
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 2
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 2

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 1
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 2
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 2
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 1

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 2
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 1
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau-Orthez 1
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 1

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[Levenspiel]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 30-70
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 40-60
Climamio Bologna - Prokom Trefl 65-35
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 40-60

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 55-45
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 60-40
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 55-45
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 65-35

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 30-70
Benetton Treviso - Eldo Napoli 70-30
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau-Orthez 55-45
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 60-40

[final countdown]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 2
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 2
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 1
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 1

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 1
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 1
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 1
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 1

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 2
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 1
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau Orthez 1
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 1

[Gytaz]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 2
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 2
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 1
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 2

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 1
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 1
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 2
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 1

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 2
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 1
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau Orthez 1
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 1

[Joško Poljak Fan]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 25-75

Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 30-70

Climamio Bologna - Prokom Trefl 51-49

Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 45-55
If Jenkins fouls out in 3rd minute, than anything is possible...


GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 55-45

you can't predict who'll win on this game, I mean Unicaja is playing tottally under their capabilities not really caring for euroleague obviously, and Partizan can't win on the road (except when playing Olimpija). Unicaja'+s quality should prevail... but that's definately a game that would be at the low end of my "want to watch list"...


Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 60-40

Cibona always plays good on their home court, even if they don't have any audience at all... I think they should prevail...


Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 40-60

Olimpija's rotation of 7 players is just too short to have chances to win... if at least Kuzminskas would be able to play some solid minutes, Arslan would get back to his old shape and Zupan case would be finally solved that's another story than... otherwise Joventut's centers will be abusing Olimpija, the way Vujčič did the last game... not neccesarily with triple double, but they 'll have some decent double-doubles...


Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 65-35


GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 25-75

Benetton Treviso - Eldo Napoli 65-35

Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau-Orthez 55-45

Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 65-35

[FRANKY 13]

I m I the only one who thinks that PAOs game versus maccabi will be a tough one. I understand why people see PAO as the favorite but 65-35?

I mean it kind of like an old time classic.
we usually meet maccabi in fainal 4 and it s always a great game.
And I expect nothing less from that one.
Hope we win but I have to say I m quite nervous about this one:D

[turkishpower]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 40-60: Oly is a better team
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 40-60 TAU is a better team
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 55-45 Climamio won't lose at home after a good win in Istanbul
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 55-45 Tough game. Efes has to win but Dynamo isn't weak.

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 55-45 Young Partizan boys are doing well but not enough for a win in Spain.
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 53-47 I Give the advantage to home team
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 52-48 Give the advantage to home team
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 55-45 PAO is better right now but big teams like Maccabi are always an important opponent

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 48-52 CSKA is better but this is Ulker with stars as good as CSKA's + The game is in Istanbul
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 50-50 ??
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau-Orthez 52-48 Zalgiris?
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 65-35 Barca all the way baby.

[EverGreen]

I m I the only one who thinks that PAOs game versus maccabi will be a tough one. I understand why people see PAO as the favorite but 65-35?

I mean it kind of like an old time classic.
we usually meet maccabi in fainal 4 and it s always a great game.
And I expect nothing less from that one.
Hope we win but I have to say I m quite nervous about this one:D

Truth is Maccabi is not in a good way. PAO on the other hand with the help of the fans are a challenge for the best of teams in Athens.

A Maccabi win would really suprise me.

[rchos7]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 40-60
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 40-60
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 51-49
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 45-55(papadopoulos will play i think)

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 55-45
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 50-50
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 45-55
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 65-35

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 40-60
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 55-45
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau Orthez 55-45
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 65-35

difficult games this week overall!

[Roy M]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 30-70
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 30-70
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 60-40
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 50-50

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 85-15
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 60-40
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 30-70
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 75-25

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 40-60
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 75-25
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau Orthez 55-45
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 90-10

[rikhardur]

GROUP A
Cologne vs Olympiacos 2
Le Mans vs TAU 2
Climamio vs Prokom 1
Dynamo vs Efes Pilsen 1

GROUP B
Unicaja vs Partizan 1
Cibona vs Lottomatica Roma 1
Olimpija Ljubljana vs Joventut 2
Panathinaikos vs Maccabi 1

GROUP C
Fenerbahçe vs CSKA 2
Benetton vs Napoli 1
Žalgiris vs Pau-Orthez 2
Barcelona vs Aris 1

[Nakz]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 35-65
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 30-70
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 60-40
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 45-55

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 80-20
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 55-45
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 45-55
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 65-35

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 35-65
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 65-35
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau Orthez 60-40
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 85-15

[Neozyrus]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 30-70
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 35-65
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 55-45
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 40-60

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 70-30
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 60-40
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 45-55
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 65-35

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 35-65
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 70-30
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau Orthez 55-45
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 75-25

[PHILIPeurobasket]

Group A:
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 2


yeah :) If prokom want play in next round (all players, fans and board dream about this) they must beat Climamio. This will be very hard game, but I hope that Prokom have power. They won last game in Polish league 105:45, so power is in team :) I hope that good game will play Justin Hamilton :rolleyes:

I think that Prokom can win this game, they will beat Climamio by ~10 points :) !!!

[T.W.Is.M.]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 30-70
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 40-60
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 60-40
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 55-45

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 65-35
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 60-40
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 40-60
Panathinaikos - Maccabi 65-35

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 35-65
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 70-30
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau Orthez 55-45
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 75-25

[pacosas]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 30-70
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 40-60
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 60-40
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 60-40

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 60-40
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 55-45
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 45-55
Panathinaikos - Maccabi 70-30

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 30-70
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 70-30
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau Orthez 55-45 (motola out,popovic questionable for this game :()
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 75-25

[gravity]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 40 - 60
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 45 - 55
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 60 - 40
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 45 - 55

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 60 - 40
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 85 - 15
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 60 - 40
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 51 - 49 (+2 for referees)

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 60 - 40 (this will be a defensive game. because of Aydin Ors. And atmosphere in hall can add morale advantage to shots of Kutluay or other players )
Benetton Treviso - Eldo Napoli 70 - 30
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau-Orthez 55 - 45
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 65 - 35

[PHILIPeurobasket]

K61 Barcelona-Aris 1.09 20 6.5 1.05 4.9
K62 C.Zagrzeb-Roma 1.44 17 2.73 1.32 2.35
K63 Cl.Bolog.-Prokom S 1.32 17.5 3.3 1.23 2.76
K64 Dynamo M-Ef.Istan. 1.26 18 3.7 1.18 3.05
K65 Koln-Olymp.Pir. 3.85 18 1.24 3.2 1.16
K66 Le Mans-T.Vitor. 2.93 17 1.39 2.49 1.28
K67 Malaga-Part.Bel 1.24 18 3.9 1.16 3.2
K68 Ol.Lubl.-Badalona 2.16 16 1.68 1.9 1.52
K69 Panath.-Mac.T.A. 1.24 18 3.9 1.16 3.2
K70 Treviso-Napoli 1.17 19.5 4.65 1.13 3.75
K71 Ulk.Ist.-CSKA M. 3.85 18 1.24 3.2 1.16
K72 Z.Kowno-Pau Orthez 1.39 17 2.93 1.28 2.5

I will bet today moneys on OLY, Juventut and Efes :)

[Basketball GOD]

i would go with pau orthez victory against zalgiris or if you are cautious with handicap victory.
zalgiris has many troubles.

[PHILIPeurobasket]

zalgiris has many troubles.

For example? Please write, becouse If you write good thinks I will bet my moneys on PAU :p

[pacosas]

For example? Please write, becouse If you write good thinks I will bet my moneys on PAU :p

motola out, no head coach,we lost many games (i dont talk about games in lkl or bbl). is this enought?

P.S. what is that man in your avatar?

[Graham]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 20-80
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 40-60
Climamio BO - Prokom Trefl 55-45
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 55-45

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 60-40
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 60-40
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 40-60
Panathinaikos - Maccabi 60-40

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 35-65
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 70-30
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau Orthez 50-50
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 70-30

[PHILIPeurobasket]

P.S. what is that man in your avatar?

Who? I :D ... just kidding - My good friend, Tomas Nagys (he will sign in upcoming days contract with Anwil :))

[wardjdim]

GROUP A
RheinEnergie - Olympiacos 40-60
Le Mans - Tau Ceramica 35-65
Climamio Bologna - Prokom Trefl 60-40
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 55-45

GROUP B
Unicaja - Partizan 60-40
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 60-40
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 60-40
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 65-35

GROUP C
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA 30-70
Benetton Treviso - Eldo Napoli 75-25
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau-Orthez 50-50
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 70-30

[each way]

Malaga are in terrible domestic form, I won't be suprised if they lose today even at home ;)

[Roy M]

Malaga are in terrible domestic form, I won't be suprised if they lose today even at home ;)


Partizan can not win away from home. they can't score away....

[PHILIPeurobasket]

The Cologne- Olympiakos game can be watched online via webstream live on www.center.tv

yeah thanks you man for link :) I want see Gortat in action against "Baby Shaq" :)

[Juan Carlos Nadal]

yeah thanks you man for link :) I want see Gortat in action against "Baby Shaq" :)

Gortat can consider himself lucky as Sofo almost definately will not play in this game. So Gortat can be glad that he will not have to leave the game full of bruises to match his tattoo :p.

[qiangdade]

for matiz's sake i hope that olimpija wins:D

[rchos7]

Gortat can consider himself lucky as Sofo almost definately will not play in this game. So Gortat can be glad that he will not have to leave the game full of bruises to match his tattoo .

he won't play.he is not the only one that will not be there.there is a posibility that we will have only 9 players in the roster for this game!except sofo and mace also mula and charissis might not play!so we will only have one point guard(penn).
personaly right now i believe that the game is 50-50.

[PHILIPeurobasket]

So Gortat can be glad that he will not have to leave the game full of bruises to match his tattoo :p.

Very funny :p

[Joško Poljak Fan]

for matiz's sake i hope that olimpija wins:D
agreed :p
I don't want to eat my shorts really...

[qiangdade]

agreed :p
I don't want to eat my shorts really...

Exactly. Though it would be a funny picture, hehe:D

[turkishpower]

Ülker: 17 CSKA: 15 after 1st period


Go Ülker, beat them!

Great atmosphere, they are playing the Ottoman Marching Anthems during the timeouts. Ülker and the fans are pumped up!

[gravity]

Fenerbahce 24 - CSKA Moskow 16

06:50 left

[each way]

Ulker go go go :D

[gravity]

Fenerbahce 37 - CSKA 31

half time.

[PHILIPeurobasket]

Fenerbahce Ulker vs. CSKA Moscow 37:31 after 1st half ...

I wait wait for Prokom game:) I hope that guys will beat today Climamnio :rolleyes:

[turkishpower]

After first half:
Ülker: 37 CSKA: 31


It'd be great if we defeat CSKA. The 2006 champions... Even though, it is not impossible to beat any team at home, we'd be surprised. Because this is Ülker and Ülker can go out in the second half and defeat CSKA by 20 or go out and lose by 20... Who knows?

[Nakz]

Ulker is a bit lucky, cause CSKA is playin really bad. Don't think this will go on for the whole game...

[rikhardur]

End of the 1 qtr: Unicaja 22 Partizan 16

[PHILIPeurobasket]

Unicaja vs. Partizan 22:16 after 1st quarter ...

[gravity]

Ulker is a bit lucky, cause CSKA is playin really bad. Don't think this will go on for the whole game...

fenerbahce's defence cause of CSKA's bad play. i think, this will be go on for the whole game. :p

[Levenspiel]

Ulker is a bit lucky, cause CSKA is playin really bad. Don't think this will go on for the whole game...
I agree, but I hope otherwise ;)

Kambala & Mrsic are playing great so far!

[each way]

CSKA look terrible

[turkishpower]

WTF :confused: Papaloukas making 2 threes consecutively. The guy can't shoot but how the hell he can make them now? Before the game, the guy just made 1 in couple 6 games! :rolleyes:


After the 3rd period:
Ülker: 47 CSKA: 51


D@mn, are they coming back? :confused:

[rchos7]

papaloukas scores 3's only when his team needs them!;)

[PHILIPeurobasket]

Unicaja vs. Partizan 39:29 after 1st half ...

[turkishpower]

papaloukas scores 3's only when his team needs them!;)


we'll see :) maybe Ibo comes and scores 3 the last second of 4th :p

[Juan Carlos Nadal]

Disgraceful defence for both Koln and Olympiakos. Every possession ends in a basket. In fact both teams play no defense at all...

[rchos7]

koln-olympiacos 29-32 in first period!no one is playing defence!

[turkishpower]

MRSIC WITH 2 CONSECUTIVE THREES


CSKA leading by 3

[Joško Poljak Fan]

I am torturing my head with what exactly makes Unicaja so average... without any success so far. When you think of their lineup a person would expect a much better game, their game doesn't look bad at all, they are playing some good defense and yet... they're average

Partizan lacks a PG badly, with Avdalović, Popović or even Jeretin I believe this would be a totally different team...

[PHILIPeurobasket]

koln-olympiacos 29-32 in first period!no one is playing defence!

Yes, this is typical "no defence game". Now OLY led 34:33 ... good think is that Marcin Gortat have now 9 points :)

[gravity]

fenerbahce 55 - cska 67

2:25 left..


cska's defence and smodis...

[each way]

CSKA look terrible


This team is incredible...look average in the first half and then decide to switch on and play incredible defense second half

Nice start for Bologna!! :)

[turkishpower]

Ülker: 64 CSKA: 74


What a bunch of losers. The reason they lost is they were afraid of the name "CSKA". All Ülker had to do is to trust itself and ignore whichever team is the opponent. CSKA is too good for Ülker. I mean their team play is great. If you look individually, maybe they are not better. But team play is what is important in basketball.
I hope Efes tomorrow wins in Moscow and takes the revenge :p

[Levenspiel]

Fener lost, but I liked their challenge this time. If Örs did not insist on zone defense in the 3rd quarter, it could be different. 4 pointers in a row brought CSKA to life. Anyway, losing to CSKA is understandable. However, they must keep this level of fighting.

And, Eddie Basden is a perfect addition.

[rchos7]

smodis and papaloukas won the game for cska!
when you have players like them playing that good you can't lose from a team that is not a real team but a bunch of players playing with the same uniforms!
i think efes will do better tomorow!


koln-oly 47-51 HT.

[DerPatriot]

RheinEnergie Köln live on www.center.tv as usual :)

[PHILIPeurobasket]

Very good game in Bolonia! After 1st half Cliamamio led with Prokom 45:44 ... Most points for Italian team scored Thomas 11, and for Prokom most points scored Wojcik and Masiulis - both players have 10 points.

GO PROKOM GO !!!!!!!

[lover]

Fener lost, but I liked their challenge this time. If Örs did not insist on zone defense in the 3rd quarter, it could be different. 4 pointers in a row brought CSKA to life. Anyway, losing to CSKA is understandable. However, they must keep this level of fighting.

And, Eddie Basden is a perfect addition.

totally agree.

man to man defence was ok in the first half then surprisingly ulker switched to zone defence in the third quarter, and smodis-holden duo killed them.

with an idiot like aydin ors on the bench, a dumb like kutluay on the field, this team can never reach its real potential.

p.s: i'm impressed by eddie basden too.

[PHILIPeurobasket]

66:63 for Climamio after 3rd quarter ...

PROKOM !!!

[rikhardur]

FT: Cologne 81 Olympiacos 88 (Top scorer: Penn 22 pts)
FT: Le Mans 76 TAU 79 (Top scorer: Nicević, Gregory 18 pts)

[Joško Poljak Fan]

Climamio : Prokom 75-79

PROKOM !!!

[rikhardur]

Unicaja 66 Partizan 58 (Top scorer: Cummings 18 pts).

[Juan Carlos Nadal]

Blimey! After their win at Efes I thought that Fortitudo were on their way to recovering, but no, they seem to simply suck big time.

[rikhardur]

And Prokom wins it! Climamio 77 Prokom 91 (Top scorer: Wójcik 20 pts).
Huge victory for the Polish, although Climamio really sucks these days... Things are not getting better...

PS: Congrats Philip ;)

[PHILIPeurobasket]

Cliamamio Bolonia vs. Prokom Trefl Sopot 77:91 :) YEAH !!!!!!!

Very hard game, but Im so happy that we win it :) Vry good game for all Prokom players - Wojcik 20 points, Masiulis 12, Atkins 11, Dalmau 11 ...

Now we can still think and fight about TOP 16 :) !!!
PROKOM TREFL !!!!!!!!!

P.s: Prokom in last quarter lost only 10 points - so reason is only one - defence comesback to Sopot :)

[PHILIPeurobasket]

EUROLEAGUE WEEK 7 (day 1):

GROUP A:
Climamio Bologna - Prokom Trefl Sopot 77:91
Climamio: Edney 19, Thomas 19, Belinelli 13, Bluthenthal 10, Mancinelli 7, Shumpert 7, Evtimov 2, Hamann 0, Cavaliero 0
Prokom: Wójcik 20, Masiulis 12, Atkins 11, Dalmau 11, Besok 9, Hukic 8, Hamilton 8, Andersen 6, Dylewicz 2, Slanina 2, Nordgaard 2

RheinEnergie - Olympiakos Pireus 81:88
RE Cologne: Gortat 17, Sljivancanin 15, Burrell 13, Mallet 9, Faison 9, Nadjfeji 7, McElroy 6, Talts 5, Strasser 0, Grunheid 0
Olympiakos: Penn 22, Acker 16, Zizic 16, Bourousis 16, Domercant 7, Barlos 6, Vasilopoulos 3, Stack 2, Papamakarios 0

Le Mans - Tau Ceramica Vitoria 76:79
Le Mans: Gregory 18, Nicevic 18, Bogavac 15, Campbell 10, Koffi 8, Batum 3, Bokolo 2, Adjiwanou 2, Amagou 0, Wheeler 0
TAU: Scola 17, Rakocevic 14, Erdogan 13, Splitter 13, Planinic 10, Prigioni 5, Peker 4, Teletovic 3, Cilla 0

GROUP B:
Unicaja Malaga - Partizan Belgrad 66:58
Unicaja: Rodriguez 15, Vassiliadis 12, Cabezas 12, Jimenez 12, Santiago 6, Sanchez 4, Lorbek 3, Welsch 2, De Miguel 2, Pietrus 0
PArtizan: Cummings 16, Pekovic 10, Kecman 9, Drobnjak 6, Tepic 5, Bozic 5, Tripkovic 3, Perovic 2, Bogdanovic 1, Velickovic 1

GROUP C:
Fenerbahce Ulker - CSKA Moskwa 64:74
Fenerbahce Ulker: Mrsic 18, Basden 12, Kambala 11, Turkcan 10, Kutluay 5, Demirel 3, Onan 2, Savas 2, Clark 1
CSKA: Smodis 21, Papaloukas 15, Holden 8, Langdon 8, Vanterpool 6, Savrasenko 6, Van den Spiegel 6, Andersen 4, Paszutin 0

[each way]

Remaining games...

GROUP A
Dynamo Moscow - Efes Pilsen 40-60

GROUP B
Cibona - Lottomatica Roma 60-40
Union Olimpija - DKV Joventut 45-55
Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 80-20 (Maccabi road record is horrible, no way they win this one, PAO by 10+)

GROUP C
Benetton Treviso -Eldo Napoli 65-35
Zalgiris Kaunas - Pau-Orthez 45-55
Winterthur FCB - Aris TT Bank 70-30

[bolo]

FT: Cologne 81 Olympiacos 88 (Top scorer: Penn 22 pts)


With all the injuries and lack of men, there is nothing more to say than my signature.

[DanMajerle]

Well, not exactly, as Olympiakos might have four times the budget Cologne has, so it's no big deal that they win without two players. Would be shocking if they hadn't.

[rchos7]

Well, not exactly, as Olympiakos might have four times the budget Cologne has, so it's no big deal that they win without two players. Would be shocking if they hadn't.

i agree with you but the players missing were not 2.were 3.sofo wasn't going to play although he was in the roster.also the 2 of thee 3 players missing were point guards so we had only one for this game(penn).
in all those don't forget that in the budget we count also mace with his 2.2 mil but he is not playing!

i am not saying that it was a great achievment that we beat koln even with 9 players but it was a game that lot of us were afraid of because of those reasons!

[qiangdade]

With all the injuries and lack of men, there is nothing more to say than my signature.

Your sig is some 10 years old. I guess u couldn't find anything recent...

[varis81]

Your sig is some 10 years old. I guess u couldn't find anything recent...

Obviously!Reds did nothing really important last years even this year with their so called
:D :D "great expectations":D :D

[Joško Poljak Fan]

a really sweet dillema... should I watch Dynamo - Efes or Cibona - Lottomatica before I watch Olimpija - Joventud :confused:

if anything euroleague's media exposure improved compared to few years ago...

[bolo]

Wer zuletzt lacht, lacht am besten
We may have been less powerfull inside the basketball court the recent years but we were distracted winning european and domsetic titles in all other sports.
One thing remains a fact though. Olympiacos has returned either you like it or not.

[ziv]

btw - once again it seemed that the visiting team had more fans than cologne on the away game. did any of you got this impression too?

[Juan Carlos Nadal]

btw - once again it seemed that the visiting team had more fans than cologne on the away game. did any of you got this impression too?

Indeed. In fact coach Obradovic (Sasha) commented on that, saying that once more it felt like an away game (the other time(s) being against Efes and even probably Prokom (?)). I think there were 1000 red fans in the arena, and they were clearly audible, even through the TV.

[ziv]

and speaking of cologne - i have to say a word in favor of gortat. i realy like his attitude. if only sczweyk (whom i think is more talented) had this attitude he'd be a legitimate EL player. gortat likes contact, he's very phisical and uses his body very well. he's not the best post-up player i've seen but he compensate it by fighting. big-boddied centers are becoming rare nowdays, and gortat as he seemed to me can become a good center for EL level.

and btw - i officaly offer the nickname "baby-duenas" to bourousis...

[rikhardur]

Dynamo vs Efes Pilsen online broadcast: http://supertv.superonline.com/playsky.php

[rikhardur]

HT: Cibona 44 Lottomatica 41

[rikhardur]

HT: Dynamo 45 Efes Pilsen 40

[Arik]

Panathinaikos - Maccabi Elite 51 - 49 (+2 for referees)

:rolleyes:

Of course, we want to win in Athens, but no doubt it will be very difficult in our current situation. I only hope we'll finally watch good game of Maccabi on the road.

[Joško Poljak Fan]

Cibona is overall playing better than Roma, but they screw it all up with sloppy TO's... and because of Bodiroga show of course.

Dynamo looks much better than at the begining of the season. Papa, Gill and Ekezie probably have something to do with it, and as far as I am concerned Gill seems better choice than Chatman to me...

[sashikas]

Dynamo - Efes Pilsen 45-40 HT

[Buducnost PG]

Dynamo looks much better than at the begining of the season. Papa, Gill and Ekezie probably have something to do with it, and as far as I am concerned Gill seems better choice than Chatman to me...

And also Bojan Popovic starts to play better.;)

[Nakz]

HT: Dynamo 41 Efes Pilsen 36

HT, it's 45-40 for Dynamo
Never want to blame the refs, but the homecourt advantage is used a bit too much. They wont let Efes play some defence, by calling every contact.

[rikhardur]

HT, it's 45-40 for Dynamo
Thanks, corrected ;)

[Trifilli]

HT, it's 45-40 for Dynamo
Never want to blame the refs, but the homecourt advantage is used a bit too much. They wont let Efes play some defence, by calling every contact.

I really don't see it that way. In the first Quarter the calls were going more Dynamos way but in the 2nd Quarter Efes got quite some love from the refs and I could understand Ivkovic when he yelled at the refs after the last scene. Imo it's a pretty fair deal overall though so far...

[Joško Poljak Fan]

And also Bojan Popovic starts to play better.;)
I thought I wrote that down, but obviously forgot, he really impressed me so far. He is playing like he played some 10 EL games before and seems he has everything under control, the same way he played for Železnik eventhough this is a 2 levels better competition.
he'll be terrific with some more experience.

Monya didn't get some offensive attention, but he is playinggreat in defense... I especially loved that block on Haislip, while I haven't noticed anyone nailing the shot over his hands...

[Nakz]

I really don't see it that way. In the first Quarter the calls were going more Dynamos way but in the 2nd Quarter Efes got quite some love from the refs and I could understand Ivkovic when he yelled at the refs after the last scene. Imo it's a pretty fair deal overall though so far...

It can be my Efes glasses ofcourse. But the only call that was dubious imo was the last one yes. I couldn't see any other critical which favoured Efes. Anyway we'll see how this game develops. Off to the TV :D

[Buducnost PG]

@Matiz

Will Jurkovic play tonight against Joventut? He was good the last games and without him Joventut will get an easy win i think.

[PHILIPeurobasket]

Cibona vs. Lottomatica 55:61 after 3rd quarter ... Very good game :) I hope that Roma will won, becouse I need moneys :D

Yesterday I bet on Prokom, and today Roma, Bennetton and Joventut :)

[rikhardur]

OT in Zagreb
FT: Cibona 75 Lottomatica 75 (Top scorer: Bodiroga 21 pts). A hard-fought one...

[PHILIPeurobasket]

And we have OT in Zagreb...

rikhardur yesterday and today you are little qucikly then I, why ;) :confused:

[rikhardur]

And we have OT in Zagreb...

rikhardur yesterday and today you are little qucikly then I, why ;) :confused:
Lol it happens :p

FT: Dynamo 90 Efes Pilsen 83 (Top scorer: Papadopoulos 20 pts)

[Levenspiel]

As Efes fans, we'll skip this year, too. Only, much earlier this time.

[Nakz]

Dynamo - Efes was an even game, but Jenkins made the difference. Wtf was he doing on the court, I mean 7 turnovers at least and all at the most critical moments:rolleyes: I really hopes he gets released from the squad, cause otherwise Efes will lose a lot of more games because of him:(

[rikhardur]

After the OT Cibona wins it 91-84 (Top scorer: Bodiroga 27 pts).

[rchos7]

so games in group a are over for this week.
oly and tau first with only 1 loss.dynamo with 4 wins 1 loss third and efes with prokom and le mans with 3 wins 4 losses!
i believe that the 2 first places are taken from oly and tau.they will play together next week in spain.the winner will most propably be first in the group.

[Joško Poljak Fan]

@Matiz

Will Jurkovic play tonight against Joventut? He was good the last games and without him Joventut will get an easy win i think.
don't know, the latest news are that he didn't get paid, he got furious and said he won't be playing today unless he gets his money untill 13.00 AM...

anything but an easy win for Joventud is a succes for Olimpija, with all this things going on I can't even be mad if they loose by 30 (as vs. Maccabi) if they fight properly...

[PHILIPeurobasket]

and speaking of cologne - i have to say a word in favor of gortat. i realy like his attitude. if only sczweyk

Ziv you think about Szymon Szewczyk - yes :confused:

[sashikas]

Žalgiris - Pau Orthez 51:37 HT

[rikhardur]

HT: Panathinaikos 47 Maccabi 45

[Gytaz]

I haven't seen Žalgiris playing with such desire for a long time. And they don't even have a new coach yet. Finally they actually play some defence. Bagatskis should have resigned earlier, I fear it may be too late.

[SHARP]

Maccabi-Pao 45-47 HT

[ziv]

Ziv you think about Szymon Szewczyk - yes :confused:
yep - we've agreed to skip spelling, didn't we?

[sashikas]

Žalgiris - Pau Orthez 69-66 after 3QTs

[PHILIPeurobasket]

yep - we've agreed to skip spelling, didn't we?

Yeah :) but sczweyk and szewczyk these are others words :D

Btw: great game against Panathinaikos and Maccabi :)

[sashikas]

Another overtime today.

Žalgiris - Pau Orthez 88:88 End of 4th period

[Joško Poljak Fan]

Olimpija - Joventut 39-31

Milič is a beast 14 points +10 rebounds in 14 minutes (12 +8 in 1st quarter)
Olimpija is again succesfull at killing the opponents game...
if only this team would have Ožbolt and Zupan they actually wouldn't suck...

[rikhardur]

FT: PAO 90 Maccabi 88 (Top scorer: Bynum 22 pts)

[Picek]

After the OT Cibona wins it 91-84 (Top scorer: Bodiroga 27 pts).
harder then expected but still a precious win.. :cool:

judges sucked big time :mad: :mad:

[sashikas]

Žalgiris - Pau Orthez 98:98 After first OT

Tanoka is fouled out

[Dookie]

FT: PAO 90 Maccabi 88 (Top scorer: Bynum 22 pts)

And a final Basket made by Jassaitis wasn't counted, but still - Great game.

[kestas]

Goddam*it, ULEB, when will you give us some fear treatment?!

Refs are killing us against some French stiffs, in Kaunas! that's ---- ridiculous!

[ziv]

jasitis shoot was after the buzzer but the hell with it.
uleb decided to video-check critical shoots but the refs gives a ---- about it. we saw it with rudy's alley-oop and we saw it again in maccabi's game. damn it, never mind the specific outcome of this game - if you have to video-check it than you have to check it.

[EverGreen]

And a final Basket made by Jassaitis wasn't counted, but still - Great game.

It didn't count because he was out of time. If you saw the backboard, the light had lit and Jasaitis was still holding on to the ball.

Anyway, I was impressed by Maccabi but the refs sucked big time. I lost count of mistakes against PAO. We had a big problem marking Bynum. We didn't have anyone that was quick enough. Vujacic again showed why Obradovic tried to sign him like crazy in the summer. Best centre in Europe.

Anyway, not a bad win without Siska and Tomasevic.

[C02]

Anyway, not a bad win without Siska and Tomasevic.
Wow...I completely forgot about those two. Pao's roster is ----- endless.

[sashikas]

Well I guess that's the end of Žalgiris' Euroleague season. The remaining games are just a formality...

Žalgiris - Pau Orthez 106:110 2OT

[Gytaz]

Refferies killed us today. What a disgrace.

[Arik]

And a final Basket made by Jassaitis wasn't counted, but still - Great game.

It was right decision of refs... damned 0.000000000001 sec... :mad:
Anyway, good news that Maccabi came back as a team!

[rikhardur]

Well I guess that's the end of Žalgiris' Euroleague season. The remaining games are just a formality...

Žalgiris - Pau Orthez 106:110 2OT
I had predicted that Žalgiris would lose it, because of the last games and the coach problem, but they fought really hard, something I didn't expect for those two reasons. I hope they get back on track from now on.

[kestas]

Well I guess that's the end of Žalgiris' Euroleague season. The remaining games are just a formality...

Žalgiris - Pau Orthez 106:110 2OT

with this sort of treatment - absolutely. I lost count of how many games we have lost due to pathetic refereeing.

Michael Wright is the new record holder for deciding the game with 8 (9?) fouls.

and if you happen to have a mediocre team of little known players craving for a good shooting performance, send them to play against Zalgiris. today our opponents missed their first freethrow in the last minute of the second OT, finishing with 27/28 from the line.. no, 26/28.. ok, so they missed one sometime in the begining as well...

[Gytaz]

Žalgiris deserved to win this game. Rfferie calls were so ridiculous in the end of both overtimes. It's so sad that they can kill the last chances for Žalgiris to reach top 16 and then just walk away like nothing happened. They should be sued for this!

:(

[sashikas]

with this sort of treatment - absolutely. I lost count of how many games we have lost due to pathetic refereeing.

Sadly I didn't see the game (it is not shown in Estonia, where I am now...). How Žalgiris managed to waste the gap in the third quater?

[Levenspiel]

and if you happen to have a mediocre team of little known players craving for a good shooting performance, send them to play against Zalgiris. today our opponents missed their first freethrow in the last minute of the second OT, finishing with 27/28 from the line.. no, 26/28.. ok, so they missed one sometime in the begining as well...
Pau-Orthez deserves more respect this season.

They are 4-3; they beat CSKA and they already won 3 away games. This cannot be pure coincidence, or referee support only.

[turkishpower]

Stupid loser morons. They lost again. Why we can't win over Dynamo even in Russia? They are not the greatest team. We should have won it! Just cut Jenkins from the team. Instead of Haislip, give time to Kuqo-Prkacin-Gonlum. The Americans in Efes suck real bad.

[Gytaz]

Sadly I didn't see the game (it is not shown in Estonia, where I am now...). How Žalgiris managed to waste the gap in the third quater?

They stopped defending. That's about it.

[kestas]

Pau-Orthez deserves more respect this season.

They are 4-3; they beat CSKA and they already won 3 away games. This cannot be pure coincidence, or referee support only.

did you have to write this?

who the heck is talking about CSKA? we are talking about the game that just ended. about refs. did you see it?! and Pau Orthez are 12th in the French Championships at the moment (not that I mean to disrespect them by noting this).
ok, just to ease it off a bit.. Elan Bearnais Pau Orthez results in France this year (just a reality check):

Septembre 2006
Sa 23 Le Havre - Elan 76-61
Sa 30 Elan- Clermont 81-66

Novembre 2006
Sa 04 Hyères Toulon - Elan 89-85
Sa 11 Elan - Roanne 81-94
Sa 18 Paris - Elan 83-77
Di 26 Elan - Le Mans 73-65

Octobre 2006
Ma 03 Strasbourg - Elan 95-66
Sa 07 Elan - Gravelines 80-83
Sa 14 Bourg - Elan 70-66
Me 18 Elan - Reims 86-78
Sa 21 Asvel - Elan 77-80
Sa 28 Elan - Orléans 84-69

Décembre 2006
Di 03 Elan - Besançon 81-71

Pau Orthez are miraculously MUCH better in Moscow or Kaunas than in their own backyard.

anyways, we lost today due to poor refereeing. however bad our deffense was at points, we absolutely deserved the win in the regular time. btw, it appears refs also counted one two-pointer for three in the first half.. not that it matters now, I somehow feel almost relaxed and not angry :)
Zalgiris will win 6 out of the remaining 7 games (I hope). refs will stop helping our opponents, coz otherwise we'll kidnapp their... dog or cat.. or something.
;)

[Basketball GOD]

Refferies killed us today. What a disgrace.

don't be ridiculous.
zalgiris had many chanches to win. they were leading by 14 points after first half. they were leading 5 points about 1:30 till the end. they were leading also 5 points in first OT end. what more do you want?

[pacosas]

i have read this thread and i see that not only lithuanians says that uleb referees SUCKS... i dont know todays referees but i remember one from past seazons who had costed wins to zalgiris. its danko radic.... :mad:

[rikhardur]

FT: Benetton 64 Napoli 70 (Top scorer: Rocca 17 pts)

FT: Barcelona 86 Aris 83 (Top scorer: Navarro 26 pts)

FT: Olimpija Ljubljana 67 Joventut 69 (Top scorer: Milič 24 pts)

[Gytaz]

don't be ridiculous.
zalgiris had many chanches to win. they were leading by 14 points after first half. they were leading 5 points about 1:30 till the end. they were leading also 5 points in first OT end. what more do you want?

So what? That doesn't change the fact that there were crucial moments at the end of the game when refferees took the ball and gave it to French when it should have been given to Lithuanians.

They wouldn't have needed to play overtime if not for the refferees...

[AssAsin]

don't be ridiculous.
zalgiris had many chanches to win. they were leading by 14 points after first half. they were leading 5 points about 1:30 till the end. they were leading also 5 points in first OT end. what more do you want?
absolutely!!;)

[Civilis]

I am back from the sports hall in Kaunas, and it is one of these cases when you feel you should have won, but some natural forces took the victory from you...

The only thing I know is I am sick and tired of the referees treating Zalgiris as if it was playing in some Barca court...

Such refereeing is simply a disgrace and disrespect to smaller clubs. Sometimes one felt as if it was personal referees' ambition - they three winning over the crowd.

Is it only me, or the level of refereeing in the ULEB is going down every year????

[MikeMaccabiFan]

Anyway, I was impressed by Maccabi but the refs sucked big time. I lost count of mistakes against PAO.
Well, I counted 4 mistakes in last minutes against Maccabi... Big ones...

[kestas]

don't be ridiculous.
zalgiris had many chanches to win. they were leading by 14 points after first half. they were leading 5 points about 1:30 till the end. they were leading also 5 points in first OT end. what more do you want?

we want fair referees, nothing else. with that we'd win by some 5 or so points in the regular time, thank you very much.

seriously, I don't understand to what lenghts sometimes Rytas fans can go to say something bad against Zalgiris.. :( I mean the post I'm answering does not provide anything to prove refs critics wrong - what's the point?! we are not talking about the mistakes of Zalgiris and about how it should have played better in the second half. that's not the subject of our talk right here.

[kestas]

absolutely!!;)

yeah, you dislike Zalgiris and its fans too, we've got it. please post something we don't know next time.

[Levenspiel]

did you have to write this?

who the heck is talking about CSKA? we are talking about the game that just ended. about refs. did you see it?! and Pau Orthez are 12th in the French Championships at the moment (not that I mean to disrespect them by noting this).
well, kestas, I felt I had to.

I didn't see the game, and it appears that referees were not good. But that's not the point. Pau's domestic results also mean nothing in this particular case. You said "if you happen to have a mediocre team of little known players craving for a good shooting performance, send them to play against Zalgiris." You're obviously trying to belittle their effort.

[EverGreen]

Well, I counted 4 mistakes in last minutes against Maccabi... Big ones...

Don't get me started because you'll make me watch the whole game making a list of the times the refs incorrectly called against PAO and I will have to hire a secretary for a week to type them up.

[Basketball GOD]

So what? That doesn't change the fact that there were crucial moments at the end of the game when refferees took the ball and gave it to French when it should have been given to Lithuanians.

They wouldn't have needed to play overtime if not for the refferees...

tragic defence was main reason why they lost not those ---- refferees.
refferees mistakes is part of the game. put this in your head. you will always see mistakes from them. they aren't robots. they also made some calls in which zalgiris benefited.

[Joško Poljak Fan]

well... Olimpija would be great in a league where only 7 players are allowed on the roster. But this way they can never stay close in 3rd quarter after great 1st half, they always get back in 4th... and again a loss...

anyway I prefer watching loosing team with a fighting spirit, last year it was just a bunch of foreigners playing without any soul or interest.

the best thing is that the 5th team of ACB can't win against the worst team Olimpija had in the last 25 years without referees having their eyes closed from times to times...:mad: :mad: :mad:
Ref's were hilarious through the whole game for both teams, but 1 minute remaining Fernandez knocks Arslan down from behind, no foul called, the ball out of bounds, ball to Joventut... awesome... I've played in Slovenian 3rd league and I thought I saw it all... untill now :rolleyes:

the way Joventut was playing today, they'd get demolished by Bosna in Sarajevo, while I'm thinking about if Slovan might actually have a chance to win this one...

[Gytaz]

tragic defence was main reason why they lost not those ---- refferees.
refferees mistakes is part of the game. put this in your head. you will always see mistakes from them. they aren't robots. they also made some calls in which zalgiris benefited.

Yeah, they're not robots.

But in some cases it was clear that that wasn't a misteke. How can you not see the ball hitting French player's hand before going out of bounds when you stand wright in front of him?

[AssAsin]

yeah, you dislike Zalgiris and its fans too, we've got it. please post something we don't know next time.
Calm down,your style is not good.I post whatever I want,You cannot decide it.İf you want to learn my real thoughts,I like Zalgiris and have no problem with its fans.But I think you have a problem with me...

[basket]

Well done, french teams are better this year.:) I'm pleased. Perhaps we'll have a team in the top 16.

Other thing, I'm surprised from maccabi team, I was sure they'll lose by at least 15 points. Their best match since a long time.

[T.W.Is.M.]

Don't get me started because you'll make me watch the whole game making a list of the times the refs incorrectly called against PAO and I will have to hire a secretary for a week to type them up.


From what I saw(about 1/3 of the game-the final one) the refs made quite a few mistakes against both teams.I don't think they determined the winner.It was a couple of Diamantidis' plays during the last minutes and the bad decision of Maccabi not 2 foul immediately with the score 89-88 15'' before the end...

[Basketball GOD]

Yeah, they're not robots.

But in some cases it was clear that that wasn't a misteke. How can you not see the ball hitting French player's hand before going out of bounds when you stand wright in front of him?

how?
they have to watch other 9 players in the court.
ball touches player for 1/10 of a second.
i would say how the hell they manage to see everything?

[C02]

From what I saw(about 1/3 of the game-the final one) the refs made quite a few mistakes against both teams.I don't think they determined the winner.It was a couple of Diamantidis' plays during the last minutes and the bad decision of Maccabi not 2 foul immediately with the score 89-88 15'' before the end...
I agree with you. The referees were not that bad. They did make some questionable decisions, but mostly theywere ok and let the teams play, which is something that european referees tend not to do. There are too many games that are just impossible to watch cuz the zebras whistle like there is no tomorrow.

[HABIBI]

thats why i love Maccabi. what a great game!Can you imagine this team with Burstein and a new american?wow!Still the best team in euroleague.

[C02]

thats why i love Maccabi. what a great game!Can you imagine this team with Burstein and a new american?wow!Still the best team in euroleague.
That is very nice to hear, but I'm afraid it will take one damn good new american and a career year of Burstein, not to say he is not even back yet and it's questionable if he can even play like he did in the past ;)

[Gytaz]

how?
they have to watch other 9 players in the court.
ball touches player for 1/10 of a second.
i would say how the hell they manage to see everything?

Refferee, who is in front of the ball should watch the ball (and he did). Other two refs should watch other nine players. ;)

[The Barbarian]

the best thing is that the 5th team of ACB can't win against the worst team Olimpija had in the last 25 years without referees having their eyes closed from times to times... :mad: :mad: :mad:
Ref's were hilarious through the whole game for both teams, but 1 minute remaining Fernandez knocks Arslan down from behind, no foul called, the ball out of bounds, ball to Joventut... awesome... I've played in Slovenian 3rd league and I thought I saw it all... untill now :rolleyes:

I’m very very surprised to hear these comments. I would say that the refereeing was ludicrous. but radically in favour of the home team. It’s certainly shocking to see somebody stating the opposite.

[turkishpower]

I wouldn't be surprised seeing Efes losing to Prokom in Poland for the game 8.

[PHILIPeurobasket]

I wouldn't be surprised seeing Efes losing to Prokom in Poland for the game 8.

You will see that :D Prokom lost last 7 games with Efes, so now is time to beat they! Prokom now is on fire, they play good games in EL and also in Polish league, so you can expect very hard game for Efes ...

Now every game is very important for Prokom - we must play in TOP16 :) !!!

[CG]

thats why i love Maccabi. what a great game!Can you imagine this team with Burstein and a new american?wow!Still the best team in euroleague.



wake up you are dreaming

[YYY]

Talking about Zalgiris - Pau-Orthez, someone should shut up those fans in Kaunas Hall. It seems they got too excited with all that "f.. you referee" going on. Why the hell did they do that even after the smallest questionable episodes?

Now back to more fun things. I really enjoyed Olimpija - Juventut game. Actually I think it's historical that we were watching 16 year old kid playing the decisive minutes in Juventut. Milic was a pleasure to watch, especially knowing that I have him on my fantasy team. ; - )

[CG]

Everyone complains about referies.Zalgiris,Olympia,Maccabi,Pao and some other teams.My opinion is to go further and not talking about it.Look your team and their potencial otherwise you are closing your eyes against the failures of your teams and not trying to get better and find the soluttion of the problems.Yes maybe some referies are idiots but noone said that in a game everything will be fair.You must fight against difficult circumstances.And for the teams that have a lead of 12+ points the referies decisions are not the responsible factor of judging a game but your teams performance.
Yesterday game PAO vs Maccabi was one of the europe classic games.I was sure that will be a close match because even if Maccabi has not the best team of the last ten years has a heavy shirt.And these kinds of games are always derby.Great atmosphere from 14.000 people inside the arena.Sometimes you couldnt here anything just whistles from the funs.Incredible atmosphere again.
PAO didnt play well in the defence while was very good offencensivly.Maccabi had their best game i think this season.Its not for luck that every PAO fan respect this team.

[Joško Poljak Fan]

I’m very very surprised to hear these comments. I would say that the refereeing was ludicrous. but radically in favour of the home team. It’s certainly shocking to see somebody stating the opposite.
? :confused:
referees had to do a lot of compensations during the games and yes refereeing was bad for both sides, but 3rd or 4th Ranniko's foul was completely ridiciolus, Arslan being knocked down was one of the decisive plays of the game, it's easy to play with a 16 years old, nevermind the talent (he definately has one) when he is protected in defense as Alaska white bears.


otherwise I don't wan to sound this as an excuse I know we lost due to our own stupidity... no doubt about it. If someone who's supposed to be the euro Reggie Miller shoots 1/6 from 3 pointers, and some of those when he is clear opened, that kind of explains it (god damned, Lorbek wtf are you doing at practices???). Arslan is also dissapointing so far, I think he had enough time after the injury, missed 2 3 pointers in a row in the last minute along with some incredible wrong passes... Rizvič, 1 sec to go, passes to Sullivan for a dunk... maaan

[ziv]

1. apperntly i was wrong. uleb havn't introduced the video-replays to it's regular season games (yet). it only applies in the final 4. mmm... with the intensity of EL games and the relative small number of games along with the fact they basiclly agree with running a video check, i don't see why not apply it on the regular games as well...
2. bottom line for maccabi-pao game - it wasn't decided by refs though there were some mistakes in both sides. pao should've hit the free throws down the stretch which they didn't and maccabi shouldn't have lost the ball in a set offense. but it was an exclent game. very phisical (and hence hard to officate), very intense. some nice moves (maccabi alley oops', batiste's dunks, some nice blocks). a thriller towards the end. so all in all - it was a good euroleague game and a very exciting game to watch with very different quarters. i'd recomnd to download it and watch it.

[HIGHLANDER]

Yeah nice game last night, i was there. Panathanikos v Maccabi.
1st real game Panathanikos have had and i thought they showed how deep they are on the bench, winning with a few players missing. Batiste is playing with a lot of confidence and looks real good. Maccabi are a very good side and pushed Panathanikos all the way. Buzzer did go off before the shot was released and a few bad calls where made over the course of the game, particularly from the same ref. :cool:

[D-Sharp]

Here are 47 pictures from last night Maccabi-PAU game (AMAZAING game BTW).

The pictures are from the Euroleague Pictures Database and sponsered by Art-Up.

http://www.maccabifans.co.il/media/pic_lib/data0607/Pana_07_12/pana_mac_04.jpghttp://www.maccabifans.co.il/media/pic_lib/data0607/Pana_07_12/pana_mac_11.jpg

In order to Watch the full gallery: Click Here (http://www.maccabifans.co.il/Gallery.asp?Category=286&Dad=223)

[qiangdade]

I’m very very surprised to hear these comments. I would say that the refereeing was ludicrous. but radically in favour of the home team. It’s certainly shocking to see somebody stating the opposite.

Yes, we know already: everything spanish is great, and everything not spanish sucks. Spain is the best, spanish players are the best, spanish teams are the best and players who play in the spanish league are the best. Happy?

[qiangdade]

Here are 47 pictures from last night Maccabi-PAU game

Actually maccabi faced PAO in athens yesterday and not PAU in israel. Different teams, completely different game

[The Barbarian]

Yes, we know already: everything spanish is great, and everything not spanish sucks. Spain is the best, spanish players are the best, spanish teams are the best and players who play in the spanish league are the best.

Yeah, that's correct. And Spanish omelettes are great also. But that doesn't change anything.

[EverGreen]

Thanks for the photo's D-Sharp ;)

[Ziggy8]

for the Pao fans here, how was the fans of Maccabi ? and there is some photos of us in the greek sites ?

amazing to be at the OAKA, i hope to back to the OAKA to the final4 with Maccabi (:

[qiangdade]

for the Pao fans here, how was the fans of Maccabi ? and there is some photos of us in the greek sites ?

amazing to be at the OAKA, i hope to back to the OAKA to the final4 with Maccabi (:

Hilarious!! Israelis even write the smileys the other way around! No offense dude, i just find it funny since i have never seen it that way

[final countdown]

What a game from Milic!
I didn't watch the game, but from the statistics it seems that he was playing alone against Joventut!
Can anyone that actually watched the game help me because i have one question?
I have him in my fantasy team and while checking his stats i noticed something very ineresting!
Milic had 15 2p attempts (almost half 2p attempts of the whole team) in this game and he received only 2 fouls in more than 30 min he played :eek:
That seemed strange to me so i checked his statistics in the previous games!
vs MTA he tried 13 2p and got 7 fouls (away game).
vs Partizan 11 2p - 6 fouls (home game)
vs Malaga 7 2p - 3 fouls (away)
vs PAO 11 2p - 5 fouls (home)
vs Roma 8 - 4 fouls (home)
vs Cibona 5 - 4 fouls (away)
vs Joventut 13 - 2 fouls (home) . Normally he should get 6-8 fouls and give me 36-38 fantasy points.

So it was the way he played or referees attitude towards Milic?

[elaj]

What a game from Milic!
I didn't watch the game, but from the statistics it seems that he was playing alone against Joventut!
Can anyone that actually watched the game help me because i have one question?
I have him in my fantasy team and while checking his stats i noticed something very ineresting!
Milic had 15 2p attempts (almost half 2p attempts of the whole team) in this game and he received only 2 fouls in more than 30 min he played :eek:
That seemed strange to me so i checked his statistics in the previous games!
vs MTA he tried 13 2p and got 7 fouls (away game).
vs Partizan 11 2p - 6 fouls (home game)
vs Malaga 7 2p - 3 fouls (away)
vs PAO 11 2p - 5 fouls (home)
vs Roma 8 - 4 fouls (home)
vs Cibona 5 - 4 fouls (away)
vs Joventut 13 - 2 fouls (home) . Normally he should get 6-8 fouls and give me 36-38 fantasy points.

So it was the way he played or referees attitude towards Milic?
The way he played (he was just amazing, scoring, dunking, rebounding, everything), but I must admit the reffs made some mistakes during the game.

[CG]

Yeah, that's correct. And Spanish omelettes are great also. But that doesn't change anything.


bad greek girls are way better than yours.i dont hear anything else:D

[CG]

for the Pao fans here, how was the fans of Maccabi ? and there is some photos of us in the greek sites ?

amazing to be at the OAKA, i hope to back to the OAKA to the final4 with Maccabi (:


since i was there on Thursday night (like every PAOs game) Israel friends was trying to take part on the show.You had a huge drum which was making us upset:D but ok everything was fine.except in the end which you were screaming against PAO players when they were trying to shoot FT.I suggest you the other time not to do so cause some of PAO are becoming really upset easily:)
but you provedd you are devoted to your team and nice people.gow was the atmosphere.do you like it?did you had any kind of problem in the Arena?

[rikhardur]

I am surprised Milič wasn't nominated for this round's MVP :confused:
Brindley Wright was the MVP with 17 pts + 13 rebs + 3 assists + 4 steals.

[Trifilli]

I am surprised Milič wasn't nominated for this round's MVP :confused:
Brindley Wright was the MVP with 17 pts + 13 rebs + 3 assists + 4 steals.

The weekly MVP is always the player with the highest index rating, Wright had 35, Scoonie Penn 34 and Milic was 3rd with 32 ;)

[rikhardur]

The weekly MVP is always the player with the highest index rating, Wright had 35, Scoonie Penn 34 and Milic was 3rd with 32 ;)
Yeah, you're right, I precipitated, didn't pay attention to that :)

[PHILIPeurobasket]

Prokom Trefl lost today in Polish league with Turow Zgorzelec "only" 74:54 :eek: This is not a good news before game with Efes, but I understant now Prokom - they have problems with health after game with Climamio :rolleyes:

[YYY]

Could you remind me in which EL group Turow plays? :cool:

[PHILIPeurobasket]

Could you remind me in which EL group Turow plays? :cool:

Prokom play in group A :cool:

[Ziggy8]

since i was there on Thursday night (like every PAOs game) Israel friends was trying to take part on the show.You had a huge drum which was making us upset:D but ok everything was fine.except in the end which you were screaming against PAO players when they were trying to shoot FT.I suggest you the other time not to do so cause some of PAO are becoming really upset easily:)
but you provedd you are devoted to your team and nice people.gow was the atmosphere.do you like it?did you had any kind of problem in the Arena?

I must say that one of the reasons that i came to greece is Pao fans, gate13 - the best in the world.

the OAKA, again, is amazing
the police are ------ bastards, we had some problem with them in the end of the game.

I hope back to the OAKA in the future.

(and i am sorry about my english that are not so good)

[bolo]

I must say that one of the reasons that i came to greece is Pao fans, gate13 - the best in the world.

Now, you see guys, this is exactly the reason why I registered. Of course you can have your own oppinion, but making these kind of comments publicly known is simply FALSE. You beeing from Israel should have known better keeping in mind the Final 4 in Tel Aviv.

[EverGreen]

I must say that one of the reasons that i came to greece is Pao fans, gate13 - the best in the world.

Now, you see guys, this is exactly the reason why I registered. Of course you can have your own oppinion, but making these kind of comments publicly known is simply FALSE. You beeing from Israel should have known better keeping in mind the Final 4 in Tel Aviv.

Ofcourse he knows better. In that F4 was the time Maariv (Israeli newspaper) was telling the Israeli public to go to the Yad Eliaou and see the crazy fans of Panathinaikos.

Anyway, you should know that for someone to be copying you (like Maccabi fans do us) then you must be pretty good. Don't forget us still singing in both 94 and 95 F-4'S although we had lost we still kept on singing throughout.

[bolo]

:rolleyes:

[c_fish]

the police are ------ bastards, we had some problem with them in the end of the game.


If they kept you inside the stadium after the game ended dont be surprised.It happens in every game so the fans dont start the "cultural dialog" outside of the stadium:rolleyes:

[qiangdade]

Now, you see guys, this is exactly the reason why I registered. Of course you can have your own oppinion, but making these kind of comments publicly known is simply FALSE. You beeing from Israel should have known better keeping in mind the Final 4 in Tel Aviv.

i wonder what makes a personal opinion FALSE??:confused: Making them publicly known?? Should he not be allowed to say his opinion simply because you don't like it?

[varis81]

i wonder what makes a personal opinion FALSE??:confused: Making them publicly known?? Should he not be allowed to say his opinion simply because you don't like it?

Exactly he doesn't like it so he calls it false..The fans of the reds always have this kind of problem..!:D

[bolo]

Sorry my mistake! I thought this was a serious board. It seems talking ----- is allowed afterall. Ok then, pao fans are the greatest in the whole wide world.

[PHILIPeurobasket]

PLEASE STOP If you didint want talk about EL I think that we can close this subject ... :rolleyes:

[HIGHLANDER]

I ask the question what makes the best fans in the world?

Who makes the most noise during games?
Who causes the most trouble?
Who follows the team through the bad and the good?
Who follows the team on the road and everywhere?
What-i'm curious to know what you all consider the best fans of a sports team to be?

These are just possible things that you might consider to be the best fans in the world. These are not all my opinion.:cool: