2008 Olympic Basketball Schedule, Games, & Results

[Kings]

http://www.fiba.com/images/web/V3_Interactive/vide/_192/olympic_basketball_s.jpg
Qualification Tournament (http://www.basketbits.org/forums/showthread.php?t=465)
Qualifying Tournament (http://www.basketbits.org/forums/showthread.php?t=466)

Group A

Aug 10 Russia 71 - Iran 49 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/1/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 10 Lithuania 79 - Argentina 75 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/2/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 10 Croatia 97 - Australia 82 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/3/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 12 Lithuania 99 - Iran 67 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/4/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 12 Croatia 85 - Russia 78 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/5/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 12 Argentina 85 - Australia 68 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/6/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 14 Australia 106 - Iran 68 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/7/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 14 Lithuania 86 - Russia 79 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/8/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 14 Argentina 77 - Croatia 53 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/9/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 16 Australia 95 - Russia 80 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/10/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 16 Lithuania 86 - Croatia 73 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/11/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 16 Argentina 97 - Iran 82 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/12/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 18 Croatia 91 - Iran 57 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/13/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 18 Australia 106 - Lithuania 75 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/14/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 18 Argentina 91 - Russia 79 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/15/groupname/A/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)


Group B

Aug 10 Germany 95 - Angola 66 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid//gamename/1/groupname/B/langlc//roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 10 Spain 81 - Greece 66 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid//gamename/2/groupname/B/langlc//roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 10 USA 101 - China 70 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid//gamename/3/groupname/B/langlc//roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 12 Greece 87 - Germany 64 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid//gamename/4/groupname/B/langlc//roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 12 Spain 85 - China 75 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid//gamename/5/groupname/B/langlc//roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 12 USA 97 - Angola 76 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid//gamename/6/groupname/B/langlc//roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 14 Spain 72 - Germany 59 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/7/groupname/B/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 14 China 85 - Angola 68 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/8/groupname/B/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 14 USA 92 - Greece 69 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/9/groupname/B/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 16 Greece 102 - Angola 61 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/10/groupname/B/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 16 China 59 - Germany 55 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/11/groupname/B/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 16 USA 119 - Spain 82 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/12/groupname/B/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 18 Greece 91 - China 77 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/13/groupname/B/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 18 Spain 98 - Angola 50 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/14/groupname/B/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 18 USA 106 - Germany 57 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/15/groupname/B/langlc/en/roundid/6450/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)


1/4 Final

Aug 20 Spain 72 - Croatia 59 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/A/groupname/31/langlc/en/roundid/6451/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 20 Lithuania 94 - China 68 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/A/groupname/32/langlc/en/roundid/6451/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 20 USA 116 - Australia 85 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/A/groupname/33/langlc/en/roundid/6451/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 20 Argentina 80 - Greece 78 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/A/groupname/34/langlc/en/roundid/6451/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)


1/2 Final

Aug 22 Spain 91 - Lithuania 86 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/A/groupname/35/langlc/en/roundid/6452/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)
Aug 22 USA 101 - Argentina 81 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/A/groupname/36/langlc/en/roundid/6452/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)


3rd to 4th Place

Aug 24 Argentina 87 - Lithuania 75 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/A/groupname/37/langlc/en/roundid/6454/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)


Final

Aug 24 USA 118 - Spain 107 (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/scheResu/p/eventid/4004/gamename/A/groupname/38/langlc/en/roundid/6454/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html)

[rikhardur]

The official website of the Beijing Olympics: http://www.olympicbasketball.fiba.com/

[PRSURF]

The official website of the Beijing Olympics: http://www.olympicbasketball.fiba.com/
Thanks rick!

[hotjam_2]

Thats a bummer what I think are #1 & #2 respectivley, Spain and the US, have to play each other so early. But at the other hand at least THEY WILL PLAY EACH OTHER! and maybe even twice! The viewer is most definatly the winner! Can't wait to watch them play!

[re5pectas]

Can't understand this Oceania thing.
Two teams, one always qualifies, and another still has chances in qualifying tournament...

Australia 79 - New Zealand 67
Australia 93 - New Zealand 67
Australia 58 - New Zealand 67

[KWSN-Men]

Thats a bummer what I think are #1 & #2 respectivley, Spain and the US, have to play each other so early. But at the other hand at least THEY WILL PLAY EACH OTHER! and maybe even twice! The viewer is most definatly the winner! Can't wait to watch them play!

Actually, US are not #2, right?

[rikhardur]

PR N°38 - Schedules for the Beijing 2008 Olympic Basketball Tournaments Announced

GENEVA (FIBA) - FIBA, in close cooperation with the IOC (International Olympic Committee), BOCOG (Beijing Organising Committee for the Games of the XXIX Olympiad) and BOB (Beijing Olympic Broadcasting), would like to announce the competition schedule for the Beijing 2008 Olympic Tournaments for Women and Men that will be played from 9th to 24th August 2008 in the brand new 18.000-seat Wukesong Indoor Stadium.

Listed below are the composition of groups, as well as the complete event schedules for the Women and Men's Olympic Basketball Tournaments. Please note that all tip-off hours are local time in Beijing, China.

OLYMPIC BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT FOR WOMEN (9th to 23rd August 2008):

Already qualified for Beijing 2008 are: Australia (World Champion), China (host), Korea (Asian Champion), Mali (African Champion), New Zealand (Oceanian runner-up), Russia (European Champion) and USA (Champion of the Americas).

The remaining five women's berths for the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games will be decided in the 12-team FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament for Women that will take place in Madrid (Spain), from 9th to 15th June 2008, and that will feature the following participants: Senegal and Angola (Africa), Cuba, Brazil and Argentina (Americas), Japan and Chinese Taipei (Asia), Spain, Belarus, Latvia and Czech Republic (Europe) and Fiji (Oceania). The draw for the remaining five qualified teams will be held on 15th June 2008 in Madrid, Spain.

1. Composition of groups:
Group A: Australia, Korea, Russia, Qualifier A, Qualifier B and Qualifier C
Group B: China, Mali, New Zealand, USA, Qualifier D and Qualifier E

2. Preliminary Round:

9th August 2008:
Game 1 (9:00 hours):Qualifier C vs. Australia
Game 2 (11:15 hours): Mali vs. New Zealand
Game 3 (14:30 hours):Qualifier E vs. China
Game 4 (16:45 hours):Qualifier A vs. Korea
Game 5 (20:00 hours):USA vs. Qualifier D
Game 6 (22:15 hours):Russia vs. Qualifier B

11th August 2008:
Game 13 (9:00 hours):New Zealandvs. Qualifier E
Game 14 (11:15 hours): Qualifier D vs. Mali
Game 15 (14:30 hours):Korea vs. Russia
Game 16 (16:45 hours):Qualifier B vs. Qualifier C
Game 17 (20:00 hours):China vs. USA
Game 18 (22:15 hours):Australia vs. Qualifier A

13th August 2008:
Game 25 (9:00 hours):Qualifier C vs. Russia
Game 26 (11:15 hours): Qualifier E vs. Qualifier D
Game 27 (14:30 hours):Qualifier A vs. Qualifier B
Game 28 (16:45 hours):New Zealandvs. China
Game 29 (20:00 hours):Australia vs. Korea
Game 30 (22:15 hours):Mali vs. USA

15th August 2008:
Game 37 (9:00 hours):Qualifier D vs. New Zealand
Game 38 (11:15 hours): Qualifier B vs. Australia
Game 39 (14:30 hours):Russia vs. Qualifier A
Game 40 (16:45 hours):China vs. Mali
Game 41 (20:00 hours):USA vs. Qualifier E
Game 42 (22:15 hours):Korea vs. Qualifier C

17th August 2008:
Game 49 (9:00 hours):Qualifier E vs. Mali
Game 50 (11:15 hours): Australia vs. Russia
Game 51 (14:30 hours):Qualifier B vs. Korea
Game 52 (16:45 hours):Qualifier A vs. Qualifier C
Game 53 (20:00 hours):Qualifier D vs. China
Game 54 (22:15 hours):New Zealandvs. USA

3. Quarter-Finals:
The information below shows only who will be playing whom in accordance with the final standings after the Preliminary Round.

19th August 2008:
Game 61: B2 vs. A3
Game 62: A1 vs. B4
Game 63: A2 vs. B3
Game 64: B1 vs. A4

The exact game number and time for the four Quarter-Finals will be known at the latest on the evening of 17th August. The games of the Quarter-Finals will be played at 14:30, 16:45, 20:00 and 22:15 hours.

4. Semi-Finals:
21st August 2008:
Game 69: Winner 61 vs. Winner 62
Game 70: Winner 63 vs. Winner 64

The exact game number and time for the two Semi-Finals will be known at the latest on the evening of 19th August. The games of the Semi-Finals will be played at 20:00 and 22:15 hours.

5. Finals:

23rd August 2008:
Game 73 (19:30 hours): Loser 69 vs. Loser 70 (3 - 4)
Game 74 (22:00 hours): Winner 69 vs. Winner 70 (1 - 2)

OLYMPIC BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT FOR MEN (10th to 24th August 2008):

Already qualified for Beijing 2008 are the following nine teams: Angola (African Champion), Argentina (Americas runner-up), Australia (Oceanian Champion), China (host), Iran (Asian Champion), Lithuania (European Bronze medallist), Russia (European Champion), Spain (World Champion) and USA (Champion of the Americas).

The remaining three men's berths for the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games will be decided in the 12-team FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament for Men that will take place in Athens (Greece), from 14th to 20th July, and that will feature the following participants: Cameroon and Cape Verde (Africa), Puerto Rico, Brazil and Canada (Americas), Lebanon and Korea (Asia), Greece, Germany, Croatia, and Slovenia (Europe) and New Zealand (Oceania). The draw for the remaining three qualified teams will be held on 20th July 2008 in Athens, Greece.

1. Composition of groups:
Group A: Argentina, Australia, Iran, Lithuania, Russia, Qualifier A
Group B: Angola, China, Spain, USA, Qualifier B and Qualifier C

2. Preliminary Round:

10th August 2008:
Game 7 (9:00 hours):Russia vs. Iran
Game 8 (11:15 hours): Qualifier B vs. Angola
Game 9 (14:30 hours):Spain vs. Qualifier C
Game 10 (16:45 hours):Lithuania vs. Argentina
Game 11 (20:00 hours):Australia vs. Qualifier A
Game 12 (22:15 hours):USA vs. China

12th August 2008:
Game 19 (9:00 hours):Iran vs. Lithuania
Game 20 (11:15 hours): Qualifier A vs. Russia
Game 21 (14:30 hours):Qualifier C vs. Qualifier B
Game 22 (16:45 hours):China vs. Spain
Game 23 (20:00 hours):Angola vs. USA
Game 24 (22:15 hours):Argentina vs. Australia

14th August 2008:
Game 31 (9:00 hours):Qualifier B vs. Spain
Game 32 (11:15 hours): Australia vs. Iran
Game 33 (14:30 hours):Angola vs. China
Game 34 (16:45 hours):Lithuania vs. Russia
Game 35 (20:00 hours):USA vs. Qualifier C
Game 36 (22:15 hours):Argentina vs. Qualifier A

16th August 2008:
Game 43 (9:00 hours):Qualifier C vs. Angola
Game 44 (11:15 hours): Russia vs. Australia
Game 45 (14:30 hours):Qualifier A vs. Lithuania
Game 46 (16:45 hours): Iran vs. Argentina
Game 47 (20:00 hours):China vs. Qualifier B
Game 48 (22:15 hours):Spain vs. USA

18th August 2008:
Game 55 (9:00 hours):Iran vs. Qualifier A
Game 56 (11:15 hours): Australia vs. Lithuania
Game 57 (14:30 hours):Qualifier C vs. China
Game 58 (16:45 hours): Angola vs. Spain
Game 59 (20:00 hours):USA vs. Qualifier B
Game 60 (22:15 hours):Argentina vs. Russia

3. Quarter-Finals:
The information below shows only who will be playing whom in accordance with the final standings after the Preliminary Round.

20th August 2008:
Game 65: B2 vs. A3
Game 66: A1 vs. B4
Game 67: A2 vs. B3
Game 68: B1 vs. A4

The exact game number and time for the four Quarter-Finals will be known at the latest on the evening of 18th August. The games of the Quarter-Finals will be played at 14:30, 16:45, 20:00 and 22:15 hours.

4. Semi-Finals:

22nd August 2008:
Game 71: Winner 65 vs. Winner 66
Game 72: Winner 67 vs. Winner 68

The exact game number and time for the two Semi-Finals will be known at the latest on the evening of 20th August. The games of the Semi-Finals will be played at 20:00 hours and 22:15 hours.

5. Finals:

24th August 2008:
Game 75 (12:00 hours): Loser 71 vs. Loser 72 (3 - 4)
Game 76 (14:30 hours): Winner 71 vs. Winner 72 (1 - 2)
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/25185/arti.html

[Kings]

FIBA schedule a big mistake!!!
Beijing Olympic Organizing Committee schedule: Here (http://www.tickets.beijing2008.cn/browse?game_type=olympic&major_category=8200&minor_category=60&date_start=2008-08-06&date_end=2008-08-24&venues=&searchFormSubmit=Search)

[re5pectas]

FIBA schedule a big mistake!!!
Beijing Olympic Organizing Committee schedule: Here (http://www.tickets.beijing2008.cn/browse?game_type=olympic&major_category=8200&minor_category=60&date_start=2008-08-06&date_end=2008-08-24&venues=&searchFormSubmit=Search)
Kings, you gave chinese link, then I take english, it goes to wrong place :)
What do you mean by "mistake" ?

[Kings]

Click Here (http://www.tickets.beijing2008.cn/browse?game_type=olympic&major_category=8200&minor_category=60&date_start=2008-08-06&date_end=2008-08-24&venues=&searchFormSubmit=Search)

[re5pectas]

Click Here (http://www.tickets.beijing2008.cn/browse?game_type=olympic&major_category=8200&minor_category=60&date_start=2008-08-06&date_end=2008-08-24&venues=&searchFormSubmit=Search)
It's in chineese!!! :)
tell in words :)

[Kings]

http://www.tickets.beijing2008.cn/?lang=en-cn

[Phantim3dx]

dont bother guys all the tickets are sold.... i tried getting them on the first day and they ran out by noon whent he 3rd phase of tickets went on sale

[interxavierxxx]

does anybody know the cost for a ticket per person in the Beijing Olympics Basketball Tournament?

[joel23]

Have nice opening ceremonies! LETS GET IT ON!

BEWARE OF BIAS OFFICIATING. I REALLY KNOW THAT HOST CAN PAY FOR CONTROL THE OFFICIATING IN ALL SPORT EVENTS

[sinobball]

Have nice opening ceremonies! LETS GET IT ON!

BEWARE OF BIAS OFFICIATING. I REALLY KNOW THAT HOST CAN PAY FOR CONTROL THE OFFICIATING IN ALL SPORT EVENTS
Unlikely in such an event as Olympics. Diamond Ball Tournament should be an indication.

[joel23]

See, possible controlling their officiating. Also this games had decrease & increase sport events. The host does removed other US & Russian power sport events(the host doesn't have other sport events).

[bolabasket]

Can't understand this Oceania thing.
Two teams, one always qualifies, and another still has chances in qualifying tournament...

Australia 79 - New Zealand 67
Australia 93 - New Zealand 67
Australia 58 - New Zealand 67

yeah...some countries would love to be in that continent...:D

[seigle42]

hehe,,
anyway its over and successful objective by chinese cheaters, :D

[Shin_Dong_Pa]

hehe,,
anyway its over and successful objective by chinese cheaters, :D

unfortunately I have to agree

[BasketballObservor]

See this is what I mean...I have seen this happen countless times on countless message boards when discussing Chinese athletes with posters of other races and other nationalities. It is pointless to discuss Chinese athletes with posters of other races and even nationalities who are non-Chinese. They will never admit that we are even as good as them, much less better, (though only individually), because they will always be thinking, "Chinese people are weaker and less athletic than our people, XXXXXXXXXX.<------(insert other posters' nationality here). They think this because the majority of our people are weaker and less athletic than the rest of the posters' nationalities, but what other posters of other races and other nationalities don't get and don't understand is that we have exceptions to the rule and that they shouldn't stereotype or generalize all Chinese people to be the same way, and that they shoudn't scapegoat us to be bad in everything simply because the majority of us are a certain way. That is why other posters of other races and nationalities will always make excuses when they lose to us, because deep down inside, it is not that we think that we are superior to other people of other races or other nationalities because of our athletes, most Chinese people only want equality to people of other races and nationalities, it is actually they who think that they are superior to us. So, when our athletes win, it goes against their idea of a ranking of human beings where we're at the bottom, and the natural order of things, and they get angry and mad that we win over them, like we're not supposed to, and try to tear us down and take us down when we win.

This is because they don't believe in the virtue of equality; or more accurately, the checks and balances that cancel each other out to produce equality. Yes, the majority of our population is weaker, but we have athletic exceptions that balance it out and that cancel out the rest of our population to make us equal to people of other races and other nationalities, all the way up to the NBA level, and that teach people not to generalize or stereotype or assume that we are all a certain way, and to scapegoat us, but people of other races and nationalities do not acceptv those exceptions anymore, as breaking the stereotype, even though they did more as recently as several decades ago.

That's why I'm telling you, discussing Chinese athletes with posters of other races and other nationalities is pointless, it will always degenerate into a racist argument with them oppressing us, and us defending ourselves. They will never be fair, objective, and unbiased, and have a balanced viewpoint towards us, because even though our athletes win, they will always be trying to maintain some twisted sense of supremacy towards us. They will never even admit that we are equal with them, much less better than them, (though only as an individual athlete). Thse discussions will always degenerate into race flame wars, with Chinese people always on the defensive.

We will just have to follow the virtues of the "Chinese way"--let them make excuses for us winning over them, be humble, be patient with them despite the fact that their false comments breed anger within us, be the "big guy" in all of this and say nothing, allow ourselves to be humiliated no matter even if we won, suffer humiliation and use it to build up the spiritual strength to be tolerant of other people and their wrongs against us and their faults, despite the pain that others wrongs and wrong minimizations of us cause us, even when they lie about us not being athletic<----(what lies, we have exceptions, 100 Olympic medals proves that), have a thick skin, and suffer the pain and humiliation that only people living in a communist country would know and understand; communism--a harsh, cruel, ruthless, environment to suffer and bear if there ever was one, and yet, strangely enough, not unlike the conditions and oftentimes the circumstances that a Chinese person faces outside China because of racism and anti-China nationalism, especially now that China is rising, as well. And yet still manage to somehow keep our heads up, maintain our faith and hope, and the belief in our own equality and our own self-worth in the face of evil fire which can whither and waste away your own spirit if you are not careful, and yet still be a good person and nice to people. I believe that is as much a part of the "Chinese way" of propriety and ethics as much as communism is.

By the way, I do not think that it is Chinese posters who have the racist superiority complex over Filipino posters, though some of them, and wrongly so, might be guilty of it here. I also have played on American basketball courts many times, usually in racially mixed groups as you typically find on American basketball courts, and I have seen Filipino players make fun of Chinese players and other East Asians many, many, times unprovoked, but I have never, ever, ever, seen a Chinese or other East Asian player not once, not even once deliberately start it up with a Filipino player and make fun of him in a racist way, looking down on his race or basketball skills unprovoked. No, I beg to differ sir, it is you guys who have the superiority complex over us, not Chinese people who think that we are better than Filipinos, most Chinese people only want equality and think of themselves as equal to other races and nationalities. And I might add, Filipino basketball players unfortunately extend this "superiority complex" to all East Asians.

No, Chinese posters' mistake is defending themselves, and not developing the strength to turn the other cheek and bear it and suffer it like a real man, they actually respond to you guys, in some vain futile hope thinking that they can win, thinking that they can stop you from picking on them, putting them down, lying about them, saying false things about them, slandering them, and oppressing them. And as I said before, from what I have observed on countless message boards from YouTube to other sports basketball message boards, it is a pointless tactic, and one that never results in victory over their oppressors, because then it just starts up again later on in some other way, on a different message board, or in the same message board all over again later on.

Take our Yao Ming for example, a true gentle giant in the mode of "gentle giants", he takes a lot of crap, but in the end does not dish it back out, and remains, (and hopefully will remain so for the rest of his hopefully long playing career, a decent man with class and decency, though I'm not sure if adding Ron Artest to the Rockets is a good idea in order to have him maintain that, Ron Artest might have a bad influence on him), and yet he only gives performance back out on the court--20+ 10+, now that is a real Chinese man.

Let them say whatever they want, but in my opinion, as long as Chinese athletes keep winning, and hopefully they will keep on winning more and more, and in more sports besides just basketball, then our racist critics just raring underneath the surface to say that they are the superior ones after all, must be silent, because in the end, that's the only thing that matters at the end of the discussion, the actions and the results on the court.

[batgirl]

BasketballObservor


I apologize for the behavior of my countrymen who keep on bashing China.
I can assure you they are just the minority of Philippins poster, majority like me
are decent citizens who only care about basketball whether Philippins win or lose.

Just ignore this scu m and wanabees, they think God has given them exclusive
gift and talent.

[BasketballObservor]

Batgirl,

That's OK Batgirl, I understand. Apology accepted. I am just trying to stop and/or minimize the arguing that's all, by trying to make Chinese posters understand where other posters from other races and nationalities are coming from, and trying to show them that no matter what, even if other posters from other races and nationalities are wrong about Chinese athletes and teams, that it is pointless to argue with them, because it will never end because of the particular things they think about Chinese people inside themselves.

And I apologize to you and am sorry to you also for the bad behavior of other posters here to you, no matter who they are. No matter who you are, you do have the right to be heard and respected no matter what your opinion is, and in the end, we do not in the end know that you are not who you say you are anyway. All the people saying that you are not who you say that you are are just assuming things, and we do not know anyway. And it doesn't matter anyway, your opinions have just as much a right to be heard and respected without being attacked anyway and your identity questioned, and are just as valid as anyone else's--right or wrong.

I hope that the behavior of other posters here has not hurt you too much, and good luck with reading all of the other posts and with your own posts in the future. I hope that other people won't attack them as much and will consider them more, and listen to them more for as long as you decide to stay.

Cheers,
BasketballObservor

[john02]

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