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fowtyeben
04-17-2007, 07:56 AM
source: philippine daily inquirer
Nobody noticed, least of all the Fil-Am cager who was the subject of a scouting expedition to Manila recently.
The NBA scout, described as the number two man of the Toronto Raptors by player agent Bobby Rius who is now based in Las Vegas, quietly flew in from the United States some months ago to personally look over the cager who he had heard so much about.
"He wanted to see for himself if the cager is NBA material. His longtime dream is to discover the first Filipino NBA player," said Bobby who has been bringing imports to the Philippines for over 30 years now.
The NBA scout Bobby was talking about is no other than American Jim Kelly, who had a stint in the Philippines working as trainer for Great Taste. Later he was hired by RFM's Joey Concepcion to personally train and develop the 6-foot-9 Bonel Balingit.
Jim came home with a scouting report, his dream of discovering the first Filipino cager remaining unfulfilled.
Not that the Fil-Am cager didn't measure up to his expectations. In Jim's book, he was as good as bruited about, definitely NBA material.
That guy is Ginebra's the "Spark" Mark Caguioa didn't measure up to was the NBA ceiling.
"He was a bit too short, according to Jim," Bobby said. "If only he had been at least 6-3..."
Mark stands 6 feet flat. "It's not yet final regarding his case" he said.
show that "nba material" in international games mark!
onono1
04-17-2007, 12:03 PM
source: philippine daily inquirer
Nobody noticed, least of all the Fil-Am cager who was the subject of a scouting expedition to Manila recently.
The NBA scout, described as the number two man of the Toronto Raptors by player agent Bobby Rius who is now based in Las Vegas, quietly flew in from the United States some months ago to personally look over the cager who he had heard so much about.
"He wanted to see for himself if the cager is NBA material. His longtime dream is to discover the first Filipino NBA player," said Bobby who has been bringing imports to the Philippines for over 30 years now.
The NBA scout Bobby was talking about is no other than American Jim Kelly, who had a stint in the Philippines working as trainer for Great Taste. Later he was hired by RFM's Joey Concepcion to personally train and develop the 6-foot-9 Bonel Balingit.
Jim came home with a scouting report, his dream of discovering the first Filipino cager remaining unfulfilled.
Not that the Fil-Am cager didn't measure up to his expectations. In Jim's book, he was as good as bruited about, definitely NBA material.
That guy is Ginebra's the "Spark" Mark Caguioa didn't measure up to was the NBA ceiling.
"He was a bit too short, according to Jim," Bobby said. "If only he had been at least 6-3..."
Mark stands 6 feet flat. "It's not yet final regarding his case" he said.
show that "nba material" in international games mark!
Oh, height factor really hurts. I remember some years back, NBA scouts spotted a highly-skilled player from south korea whose name was Hur Jae. His case was different. He measured up to nba scouts' expectations. Hur Jae was very talented, quick, outstanding outside shooting and ball handling skills and tall for asian pt. guard standard at 6'2". He even outplayed and outmatched our premiere point guard Johnny Abarrientos during the 1994 Hiroshima Asian Games quarterfinals. In other words, hur jae got what he takes to make it in the NBA except his language, i guess. That's why he failed to make it.
donspark47
10-11-2009, 06:26 AM
Mark Caguioa will make his return in the coming PBA season after missing the entire season due to tendonitis.
The five-foot-11 Barangay Ginebra guard reported for practice two weeks ago and appeared in top form, retaining the quickness and shooting touch that made him one of the league’s premier players.
“So far so good,” Ginebra coach Jong Uichico said of Caguioa. “He is ready to go, unless his knee acts up.”
Caguioa, 29, sat out last season and spent six months in the United States to rehabilitate his knee.
Caguioa Back In Top Form – Uichico
He was supposed to rejoin the team during the late stage of the Fiesta Cup, but team management decided against fielding him back into action.
With Caguioa’s return, Ginebra is now loaded at the two-guard spot as he will share playing minutes with 2009 Most Valuable Player (MVP) and buddy Jayjay Helterbrand, Cyrus Baguio, and Ronald Tubid. Uichico doesn’t see it as a problem.
The Kings also upgraded their frontline with the recent additions of 6-foot-6 Enrico Villanueva, 6-foot-5 Rich Alvarez and 6-foot-6 Paulo Bugia, joining mainstays Willie Wilson, Billy Mamaril, and former MVP Eric Menk.
“Last season, we really lacked the size. We actually have the size but not quick players compared to the other teams. That’s one of our weak spots,” Uichico said.
The multi-titled mentor said that their new recruits are doing well in practice, trying to fit into the system and finding their right roles to be effective in their campaign to regain the all-Filipino crown they last won in 2006-07 Season.
Despite the addition of new players, Uichico still feels they are not in the same calibre as powerhouse teams like reigning Fiesta Cup champion San Miguel Beer and defending Philippine Cup champion Talk ’N Text.
"We’re just one of the regulars," Uichico said. “We may have improved particularly on our frontline rotation, malayo kami sa teams like San Miguel Beer and Talk ’N Text. Kumbaga humahabol lang kami sa kanila," he added.
donspark47
10-11-2009, 06:36 AM
Mark Anthony Y. Caguioa (born November 19, 1979 in San Juan, Metro Manila, Philippines) is a Filipino professional basketball player in the Philippine Basketball Association. He plays for the Barangay Ginebra Kings. Known by many as The Spark, he is also known, along with backcourt tandem Jayjay Helterbrand, as one-half of the so-called, The Fast and The Furious. He is one of the best players in league history that can easily score at will.
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Although born and raised in the Philippines, Caguioa spent his adolescent days in the United States and played collegiate ball at the Glendale Community College in California. He was named into the First Team All-Western State Conference honors in the 1999-2000 season.
PBA career
In 2001, as a virtual unknown in the Philippine basketball scene, he was drafted by the Barangay Ginebra Kings as the third overall pick. Expectations were not high as Caguioa started as a role player and reliever to superstar but aging Vergel Meneses. However, after showing strong performances and leading the Kings to the 2001 All-Filipino finals, he became very popular. With his killer cross-overs, slashing drives to the basket, and penchant for making clutch plays, Caguioa earned the respect and admiration of the Filipino basketball fans. His exciting brand of play earned him the monicker "The Spark." At the end of the season, Caguioa was the third Ginebra player since Dondon Ampalayo in 1986 and Marlou Aquino in 1996 to win the Rookie of the Year award.
In the 2002 and 2003 seasons, Caguioa had good performances but the Kings were unable to get past the quarterfinals.
In the 2004-2005 season, Caguioa along with his comebacking partner Jayjay Helterbrand, formed a strong backcourt tandem, which ABC Sports later dubbed as the "The Fast and The Furious." Their tandem enabled Ginebra to win back-to-back championships. Caguioa also set his then career high during the season, scoring 43 points (he later eclipsed this by scoring 45 points) in Game 4 of the Philippine Cup Finals against the Talk 'N Text Phone Pals.
Caguioa had several chances to win the MVP plum but got the short end most of the time. Like for example, he was among the leading players in the 2004 Fiesta Conference and was also a strong candidate for the the Philippine Cup Best Player, but lost in the media voting twice to fellow Barangay Ginebra Kings teammate Eric Menk. His "bad boy" image was apparently disliked by the media. During the 2004 PBA All-Star Game, his output of 36 points would have won him the All-Star MVP, but the PBA South All-Stars led by Asi Taulava and Jimmy Alapag stole the show.
In the 2006 Philippine Cup, Caguioa was still showing brilliance in his game earning him the Player of the Week honors thrice. He also led the league scoring at 24 points per game, and broke his previous career high by scoring 45 points despite a losing effort to Red Bull in the quarterfinals. He became the first guard ever to finished a single season as the league's leading scorer since Allan Caidic in 1995.
In the 2007 Philippine Cup, Caguioa averaged 24.7 per game in the 23 games he played. He also led the league in statistical points for the Best Player of the Conference Award. Caguioa piloted Ginebra to their seventh championship in franchise history by besting the San Miguel Beermen in a best-of-seven showdown by ending it in Game 6. During their series against Talk 'N Text in the semifinals, Caguioa scored 34, 31, 26, 35, and 31 points respectively. Mark Caguioa won the 2007 PBA Best Player of the Conference.
Caguioa again helped his team during the 2008 PBA Fiesta Conference by grabbing their eight championship. He also led the league in scoring.
There were also speculations that the Sydney Kings of the NBL in Australia was really impressed with his performance, and they offered him a contract to play for their team. But unfortunately, the NBL terminated the license of the Sydney Kings after the club’s ownership failed to remedy outstanding player payments outlined in a default notice issued to the club.
In the 2008-09 season, Caguioa failed to suit up for Kings due to his therapy in the United States for tendonitis on both knees.
Awards and Records
* 1999 Eagle Rock Most Valuable Player of the Year
* 2000 Glendale Community College Mythical First Team
* 2001 PBA Rookie of the Year
* 2001 PBA Mr. Quality Minutes
* 2005 PBA Mythical Second Team
* 2005 PBA Statistical Leader
* 2006 PBA Mythical Second Team
* 2006 PBA Scoring Champion
* 2007 PBA Best Player of the Conference (All Filipino Cup)
* 2007 Philippine National Team Member
* 2007 PSA Major Awardee (Professional Basketball Ranks)
* 2007 FIBA Asia Club Championship Mythical Ten Selection
* 2007 William Jones Cup Mythical Five Selection
* 2007 Member, PBA 5,000-point Club
* 3x PBA Scoring Champion
* 2008 Achieved 30th career 30-plus point game
* 2008 Statistical Leader in PBA Fiesta Cup's Best Player of the
Conference
* 2008 PBA Mythical First Team
* 2004 Fiesta Conference
* 2004-2005 Philippine Cup
* 2006-2007 Philippine Cup
* 2008 Fiesta Conference champion.
National team
Caguioa was named in the RP Training Pool for future international competitions. He has participated in several exhibition games against the Iranian National Team and the NBL team Sydney Kings in mid-2005, where he impressed the latter team's coach by scoring 27 points in the said game. [1] [2] He has also played in the 2005 FIBA-Asia Champions Cup held in the Philippines, in which they finished 5th in the event. He averaged 19.8 points per game and 3.4 rebound per game in the said tournament.
However, Caguioa was eventually left out of the team. It was due to national mentor Chot Reyes' claim that Caguioa has failed to appear in several practice sessions.
In 2007, he finally joined the RP Team that won the Southeast Asia Basketball Association Championship with a perfect record and finished 9th place with a record of 5-2 in the FIBA Asia Championship.
[edit] Controversy
* A mini-controversy happened in 2005 when he spoke a Filipino vulgar word during a live interview of a game between Caguioa's team against the Sta. Lucia Realtors. He didn't receive any form of punishment from the PBA for his comments.
* Caguioa once had a rivalry with then-Sta. Lucia player Alex Cabagnot, who now plays for the Coca-Cola Tigers. It was mainly because Cabagnot broke Caguioa's scoring records at Eagle Rock High School. They had several episodes of commentaries regarding each other in interviews, and were seen trash talking in camera during their first two encounters. The rivalry apparently cooled off as Cabagnot failed to live up to everyone's expectations. [3]
* Aside from being left out of the national team, Caguioa was also sanctioned by the league for his failure to appear in the 2006 PBA All-Star Game held in Cagayan de Oro City. Through his agent Danny Espiritu, he said he was suffering from an injury and had to beg off from coming.
* Prior to the start of the 2006 Philippine Cup, Caguioa vowed to run naked (or half-naked) along the streets of Shaw Boulevard if the Kings failed to defend the title during a pre-tournament interview with ABC Sports. His team eventually lost the title, but he reneged on his earlier promise.
* On May 17, 2006, Caguioa was ejected during Ginebra's 99-88 defeat against the Coca-Cola Tigers for two technical fouls. The first technical happened after he vehemently complained a call against then-Tigers guard John Arigo. The second offense was for throwing the ball into the stands after a foul was called on him. The league also suspended Caguioa during their loss against Air21 on May 20.
* He was fined by former PBA Commissioner Noli Eala for failing to attend the 2006 PBA Annual Awards, where he was included in the Mythical Second team.
* Several major newspapers in the Philippines wrote articles claiming that Caguioa is hated by the media in relation to his non-inclusion of individual awards in the past.
chris25_moon
10-11-2009, 06:56 AM
I like this thread, Idol Welcome back!:)
donspark47
10-11-2009, 07:01 AM
I like this thread, Idol Welcome back!:)
thanks dude!:D
donspark47
10-11-2009, 07:03 AM
May rumor sa Ginebra management na ittrade daw si Mark C. mula mismo sa manager niya..But according to Spark's interview di totoo ang trade between Mark to Ren2 and Mark to Belasco..Saka if ever itrade siya sa ibang team di na lang siya magla2ro at magre2tire na lang kc ka2iba daw tayo magmahal and he could not imagine his self wearing other jersey...Porke ba may injury siya,nagkaroon ng issue ng trade?..
other questions to Mark Caguioa:
Q. Nagkatampuhan o nagkagalit na ba kayo ni Jayjay?
A. Never pa kami nagkagalit ni JayJay kasi magkapatid ang turingan namin.
Q. If ever JayJay is a girl liligawan mo ba siya?
A. (he laughs,hehehe) Ahmmm...No, mas ok siguro kung bestfrend na lang..Grabe pati ba si JayJay...hahahaha
Q. Wala ka bang balak maglaro sa NBA?
A. May nagscout sakin maglaro sa NBA but I refused it dahil mahal ko ang Ginebra fans at i'm happy nasa Ginebra ako. Kung magtraining pwede pa to improve my skill.
Q. Mas kamukha mo si Jomari Yllana?
A. Ha..cno yun? hehehe.. di ba matangos ang ilong nun..siguro si Allan K lang kamukha ko... pati... si Pido...
Q. Sino ang pinakagwapong Mark sa PBA Mark Macapagal,Mark Isip, Pingris, Andaya,Escalona,etc.?
A. Siyempre ako! hahahaha...
Q. Sinong magaling magbantay sayo? James Yap, Miller, Cardona, Yeo, Ren2,Cortez?
A. Aahh.. Si Ronald Tubid kc magaling talaga siya mang-asar pero sanay na ako.. Naaawa me sa mga binabantayan niya,talagang mapipikon sila. Buti naging mabait na si Tubid sakin...hehehe
Q. Si Mercado daw ang next Mark Caguioa,anong masasabi mo?
A. Napanood ko na siya maglaro,ehmmmm,,you know masasabi may hawig kami sa paglalalro at style kaso nasa Ginebra ako at siya sa PBL..(sinabi din na Danny Spiritu baka idol ni Mercado si Mark kaya hawig sila sa paglalaro.) Oo nga...(he's agree)hehehe
Q. May plan ka na ba magpakasal?
A. ahmmmm...Wala pa sa isip yan,matagal pa bago ako ikasal baka wala na akong fans that time...hahaha
Q. Kung papipiliin ka kung sino ang gusto mo makasama sa RP team sino ang kukunin mo?
A. All Ginebra players.
Q.If kukunin ka ni Jawo sa kanyang team para maglaro, papayag ka ba?
A. It's hard decision you know gaya ng sinabi ko iba pag nsa Ginebra ka..
Q. Ikaw dw ang susunod sa yapak ni Jaworski?
A. Ohhh..di naman kasi si Jawo the living legend siya at madami na siyang achievements... i'll continue what he started..the never say die attitude.. I remember nung 1st time ko maglaro sa PBA ang daming fans kaya dapat iba lahat para sulit ang bayad nila and parang forgot ko na maglaro ng basketball sa dami nila...hehehe.. iba tlga ang feeling.:eek:
not exactly a fan of him (actually I hate this guy) , one of those players who's on the same mold as Allen Iverson (Me first, over dribbles, relies on flashiness than skill, vilume shooter notorious for going 1/20 in a game etx...) luckily these kind of players are slowly being phased out or already and endangered species not only in the PBA but elsewhere (NBA, Euro etc)...........
donspark47
10-12-2009, 03:11 AM
not exactly a fan of him (actually I hate this guy) , one of those players who's on the same mold as Allen Iverson (Me first, over dribbles, relies on flashiness than skill, vilume shooter notorious for going 1/20 in a game etx...) luckily these kind of players are slowly being phased out or already and endangered species not only in the PBA but elsewhere (NBA, Euro etc)...........
MARK CAGUIOA
Awards and Records
* 1999 Eagle Rock Most Valuable Player of the Year
* 2000 Glendale Community College Mythical First Team
* 2001 PBA Rookie of the Year
* 2001 PBA Mr. Quality Minutes
* 2005 PBA Mythical Second Team
* 2005 PBA Statistical Leader
* 2006 PBA Mythical Second Team
* 2006 PBA Scoring Champion
* 2007 PBA Best Player of the Conference (All Filipino Cup)
* 2007 Philippine National Team Member
* 2007 PSA Major Awardee (Professional Basketball Ranks)
* 2007 FIBA Asia Club Championship Mythical Ten Selection
* 2007 William Jones Cup Mythical Five Selection
* 2007 Member, PBA 5,000-point Club
* 3x PBA Scoring Champion
* 2008 Achieved 30th career 30-plus point game
* 2008 Statistical Leader in PBA Fiesta Cup's Best Player of the
Conference
* 2008 PBA Mythical First Team
* 2004 Fiesta Conference
* 2004-2005 Philippine Cup
* 2006-2007 Philippine Cup
* 2008 Fiesta Conference champion.
TrueBluePinoy
10-12-2009, 03:28 AM
not exactly a fan of him (actually I hate this guy) , one of those players who's on the same mold as Allen Iverson (Me first, over dribbles, relies on flashiness than skill, vilume shooter notorious for going 1/20 in a game etx...) luckily these kind of players are slowly being phased out or already and endangered species not only in the PBA but elsewhere (NBA, Euro etc)...........
In other words, strictly for entertainment.
His style of play is a bad influence for national team aspirants.
randomguy
10-12-2009, 03:40 AM
In other words, strictly for entertainment.
His style of play is a bad influence for national team aspirants.
Dude's past his prime.
ricodgame
10-12-2009, 08:06 AM
Dude's past his prime.
But if he is only 29 then he is on his peak.. Like KObe - He is 31 I think, so he is still in his prime..
Lebron23
10-12-2009, 08:53 AM
Caguioa was one of our top scorers in the 2007 FIBA Asia Championship. He was also a member of the Jones Cup Mythical 5, and the Spark was also selected as a member of the 2007 FIBA Asia Club Championship Mythical Ten Selection.
He's the real MVP in the 2007 PBA Season cause he was the no.1 reason Ginebra won the All Filipino Cup title.
Miller won the MVP Award because Mark Caguioa played for the National Team in the Fiesta Conference.
Stop hating on Mark Caguioa because he's one of the most exciting players in PBA History.
Lebron23
10-12-2009, 09:11 AM
Unlike Allen Iverson the Spark has won 4 PBA Championships since 2001.
eindhow
10-12-2009, 10:38 AM
Mark Caguioa is the best scorer of the Philippines in his generation.. He proved that during his NT stint in 2007.. An NBA-type/patterned player.. But somewhat succeeded Internationally.. Too bad he's barely 6ft and almost 30 that time.. We could have seen a Fil in the NBA already.. hihi..;p
Haters will disagree with me.. Then tell me who can match what he does in the PBA??
Lebron23
10-12-2009, 10:47 AM
Mark Caguioa vs. Solomon Mercado - I love to see that matchup in the Philippine Cup.
its_eman8211
10-12-2009, 11:54 AM
MC still the best for me...
Haters are always there... Never learned their lessons.
BTW, MC had enough fans we dont need your clever idea.
peace.
not necesarily a hater of Mark Caguiao, I actually respect his basketball skills, but I'm not just a fan of his approach to the game, I use to coach basketball to young kids, and I emphasize on teamwork, so I hope you get my stand.....
Good player no doubt, but not a good model for those who are starting to play the game...
ramzaruglia
10-12-2009, 02:21 PM
No offense also, but MC's brand of play is really not for international basketball. I prefer Spanoulis over him.
STATE
10-12-2009, 03:52 PM
No offense also, but MC's brand of play is really not for international basketball. I prefer Spanoulis over him.
No offense also, have your Spanoulis go here and he will be owned by MC. :D
PINOY ka pa naman!
as the great philosopher Allen Iverson had said, A million fans love me, and a million fans hate me
Explosive scorer no doubt, but just can't cheer this guy...
Personally I prefer Cardona (sans his attitude)
BlindPass
10-13-2009, 12:56 AM
He's the only reason I'm watching the PBA oops!... now there's two, the other one is Gilas!
You really can't blame MC for playing the way he does. He grew up in the US and that's the reason he's your prototypical American guard. However, I doubt that anybody can stay match his individual skills as a basketball player. I do remember one guy from the NBA that if he was just around 6'3, he would surely make it to the NBA.
You really can't blame MC for playing the way he does. He grew up in the US and that's the reason he's your prototypical American guard. However, I doubt that anybody can stay match his individual skills as a basketball player. I do remember one guy from the NBA that if he was just around 6'3, he would surely make it to the NBA.
the height is an issue, but its the limitation in skills that prevents mc in being invited to play in the nba. he's one of the best (if not the best) in the pba in one-on-one plays and transition attack but as great as he is in the pba, its not nba-level. there are much smaller guys who did not only play in the nba but played well. and iverson who is listed as 6'0 (but is probably even smaller than that) plays off-guard and plays really well.
the height is an issue, but its the limitation in skills that prevents mc in being invited to play in the nba. he's one of the best (if not the best) in the pba in one-on-one plays and transition attack but as great as he is in the pba, its not nba-level. there are much smaller guys who did not only play in the nba but played well. and iverson who is listed as 6'0 (but is probably even smaller than that) plays off-guard and plays really well.
Skills? There are many skills as far as basketball playing is concerned. You're probably referring to his passing skills. Like I said, he's your prototypical American guard. A great one-on-one player who who just wasn't able to learn team play early in his career. Iverson's inability to play the PG role is one reason for his downfall. Sure he's definitely the greatest 6'0 player to play the game, but as he grew older, he wasn't able to adjust. Iverson and MC are players who need the ball in their hands all the time to be effective Sadly, that type of play isn't effective in international competitions.
KevinDurant
10-13-2009, 02:16 PM
can't wait for the MC-Sol Mercado matchup..one year in the making!
ramzaruglia
10-13-2009, 02:35 PM
No offense also, have your Spanoulis go here and he will be owned by MC. :D
PINOY ka pa naman!
Sorry, but for real, I don't like ballhogs, fancy, and showy players. Spanoulis will be owned by MC47? Are you kidding me?:D
donspark47
10-14-2009, 01:48 AM
for me..still Mark Caguioa still the BEST player in the PBA...he is the heart and soul of Ginebra...so popular..talented...other fans hates MC bacause their players of their fave. team eaten of this one of a kind player of BGK...
You hate this because I like that...that's it..Ginebra fans love this one of a kind guy...why? so passionate to play basketball, loyal of his team and he love the fans (kabarangay) so much, he play hard of each game...he rather choose to retire early when this guy traded to other team..offers to other country double the money of his earnings but he choose to stay in ginebra... now tell me why Ginebra fans love this so much? "nasa kanya na lahat ng hinahanap mo":) MC welcome back... your loyal fans waiting for you so long...we watch your game comeback game this friday...:)
rycorpz
10-14-2009, 01:57 AM
Wow Wow he's back indeed well as far as talent he's one of the best here in the PBA ( nasa favorite players ko siya sa profile ko ) anyway as for international competition he was owned big time by Iran and Jordan guards and we were stunned and astonished to that mediocre joke performance it will take time for MC47 to get back to his old self again ( if he's averaging 30 pts a game definitely he's back )
donspark47
10-14-2009, 02:07 AM
caguioa was one of our top scorers in the 2007 fiba asia championship. He was also a member of the jones cup mythical 5, and the spark was also selected as a member of the 2007 fiba asia club championship mythical ten selection.
He's the real mvp in the 2007 pba season cause he was the no.1 reason ginebra won the all filipino cup title.
Miller won the mvp award because mark caguioa played for the national team in the fiesta conference.
Stop hating on mark caguioa because he's one of the most exciting players in pba history.
correct!:d
chris25_moon
10-14-2009, 04:33 AM
Barangay Ginebra and San Miguel Beer, two of the busiest teams in the off-season, clash this Wednesday with the Kings going to welcome prolific scorer Mark Caguioa back to their fold in the KFC-PBA Philippine Cup today at the Araneta Coliseum.
The Kings and the Beermen collide in the 7:30 p.m. after the 5 p.m. encounter between the Alaska Aces and the Barako Bull Energy Boosters.
Fresh from its Fiesta Cup title campaign where it downed Ginebra in a thrilling seven-game showdown, San Miguel further upgraded its already formidable roster with the acquisition of versatile forward Arwind Santos from Burger King and playmaker Dennis Miranda from Sta. Lucia Realty.
Santos and Miranda were acquired from Burger King and Sta. Lucia, respectively, in exchange for future rookie picks.
The ability of Santos to play the 2-3 positions has solidified SMB's guard-forward rotation that include Dondon Hontiveros, Lordy Tugade, and Danny Seigle. Both Tugade and Seigle did not see action in the last conference due to various injuries.
But the comeback of Caguioa, considered one of the PBA's top guards, is the most awaited. He missed almost the entire season last year due to tendonitis.
"We are a 'wait and see' team. How we will be able to adjust to each other, to the system and team chemistry remains to be seen," said Ginebra coach Jong Uichico, adding that keeping the players healthy is also a key factor.
A healthy Caguioa and Jayjay Helterbrand, who was also bothered by hamstring injury in the Fiesta Cup finals, should make Ginebra one of the teams to beat this conference.
Aside from Caguioa, the Kings will also unravel their new recruits in big men Enrico Villanueva and Rich Alvarez, as well as guard Celino Cruz.
Villanueva, Alvarez, and Cruz all came from a trade with Purefoods, in exchange for Rafi Reavis and Paul Artadi with Burger King acting as conduit.
Uichico hopes that aside from Caguioa and Helterbrand, the three will be comfortable with other teammates including Cyrus Baguio, Ronald Tubid, Billy Mamaril, JC Intal, Eric Menk and Sunday Salvacion, Willy Wilson, and Doug Kramer. Waylon Galvez - Manila Bulletin
chris25_moon
10-14-2009, 04:35 AM
for me..still Mark Caguioa still the BEST player in the PBA...he is the heart and soul of Ginebra...so popular..talented...other fans hates MC bacause their players of their fave. team eaten of this one of a kind player of BGK...
You hate this because I like that...that's it..Ginebra fans love this one of a kind guy...why? so passionate to play basketball, loyal of his team and he love the fans (kabarangay) so much, he play hard of each game...he rather choose to retire early when this guy traded to other team..offers to other country double the money of his earnings but he choose to stay in ginebra... now tell me why Ginebra fans love this so much? "nasa kanya na lahat ng hinahanap mo":) MC welcome back... your loyal fans waiting for you so long...we watch your game comeback game this friday...:)
agree with you brow! Go Ginebra...
Ginebra...Ginebra...Ginebra...Ginebra...Ginebra... Ginebra...Ginebra...:D:D:D
I'd only be convinced that he's really good if he can play point and make his teammates better.
I'd only be convinced that he's really good if he can play point and make his teammates better.
Helterbrand already handles that job. MC doesn't need to play PG
Lebron23
10-14-2009, 02:19 PM
Mark Caguioa is back with a vengeance.
17 points, 7/12 FG's
Ginebra beat sister team SMB, 98-86.
its_eman8211
10-14-2009, 03:21 PM
MC Played well... 3rd quarter, he was smoking...
He is not over weight also. I hope i can see more of his scoring skills in the days to come.
MC Played well... 3rd quarter, he was smoking...
He is not over weight also. I hope i can see more of his scoring skills in the days to come.
her gf is smoooking hoot :cool:
its_eman8211
10-14-2009, 04:09 PM
her gf is smoooking hoot :cool:
you're right...
its_eman8211
10-14-2009, 04:10 PM
http://www.pba-online.net/boxscores.php?gameid=3
boxscore.... BGK vs SMB
than11
10-14-2009, 06:57 PM
awful 3pt shooting by both teams..
but I'm not complaining, BGK won..
MC's back!..definitely back..:D
Jeon_Addict
10-15-2009, 02:14 AM
My man is back... cant wait their match against Gilas! Just wondering who'll guard him!
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her gf is smoooking hoot :cool:
i mean HIS gf hehe...pretty much the main reason why i try to get at least a lower box in BGK's games (fronting the teams) :D
ababou, tiu, and casio would probably alternate against him
My man is back... cant wait their match against Gilas! Just wondering who'll guard him!
I think the National Team already devised a sort of team defense to tackle pure individual scorers, rather than the PBA style one-on-one defense.
donspark47
10-15-2009, 06:18 AM
Mark Caguioa marked his return from a one-year layoff with a 17-point showing Wednesday night, helping Barangay Ginebra get to a winning start in the 2009-2010 KFC PBA Philippine Cup.
With Caguioa pouring 15 in the second half, the Kings sustained the momentum of a decisive second-quarter romp on the way to a 98-86 win over the San Miguel Beermen before a good crowd at the Araneta Coliseum.
Eric Menk and Jayjay Helterbrand also made their presence felt as the Kings got past the team that beat them in a classic title duel in the most recent Fiesta Conference.
"We caught them off-guard. They relaxed a bit as they're probably still feeling championship high. On our part, we just don't want to get beaten again," said Ginebra coach Jong Uichico.
"It's just a first game. Everybody's feeling around, trying to get right chemistry. But it's nice to win. Hopefully, we can get to sustain it throughout the conference," Uichico added.
The Beermen started well but were outmaneuvered and outplayed by the Kings in the last three quarters of the game marred by two flagrant fouls committed by Danny Ildefonso and Denok Miranda on the cocky Ronald Tubid.
Caguioa returned from a long layoff with a flourish, going 7-of-12 from the field and also coming through with two free throws, two rebounds, one assist and one steal in 28 minutes of action.
Uichico said the prolific guard/forward is just about 80 percent back in shape.
"His rehab and strengthening are still going on. Hopefully, he regains his old form during the season," said Uichico of Caguioa who missed the 2008-09 campaign due to knee surgeries.
Menk paced the Kings with 18 points that went with nine rebounds while Helterbrand, the 2009 league MVP, shared 17 points, nine assists and seven rebounds.
Danny Ildefonso led all scorers with 19 points.
The Kings hit their strides in the second period, converting 57.9 percent of their shots to surge ahead, 49-43, at halftime.
They were off to a slow start, outplayed by the Beermen early on as they trailed at 21-29 in the opening period.
Ildefonso was productive coming off the bench, piling up 14 points on 7-of-10 field-goal shooting in the first 24 minutes of play. Menk had nine points and four rebounds also coming off the bench for the Kings. (SB) PBA.ph
patay-butiki
10-15-2009, 01:41 PM
mark the spark sparkles.... :D
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/224886/caguioa-lights-pba
http://www.fpacc.com/archive/images/m%20bulletin%20logo.jpg
http://www.mb.com.ph/sites/default/files/caguioa_1.jpg
Caguioa lights up PBA
By WAYLON GALVEZ
October 15, 2009, 5:40pm
Games on Friday (Araneta Coliseum)
2:30 p.m. — Smart-Gilas vs Burger King
5:00 p.m. — Coca-Cola vs Sta. Lucia
7:30 p.m. — Talk ’N Text vs Rain or Shine
Game on Saturday (Davao del Norte)
5:00 p.m. — San Miguel vs Alaska
Mark Caguioa, easily the most popular player in the league, made his much-anticipated return Wednesday and did not disappoint.
Caguioa scored 17 points to lead Barangay Ginebra to a 98-86 thumping of sister team San Miguel Beer at the Araneta Coliseum.
“I’m just glad to be back, and running... and playing basketball again,” said the 29-year-old Caguioa who missed the entire season last year due to tendonitis.
Before he went to the United States for rehabilitation, Caguioa had a career average of 18.2 points and averaged 19.8 a game during the 2007-2008 season.
When he stepped into the court Wednesday, Caguioa played as if he never left.
The 6-1 Caguioa, leaner with spiked hair and thick goatie, made his first basket with nine minutes left in the first period.
He did the most damage in the third quarter where he poured 15 points to give the Kings a 75-65 lead entering the final period.
Caguioa admitted he felt like a rookie the first time he entered the court, but got comfortable as the game wore on.
“Like I said, once you step into that court parang everything goes away. It feels like I never left,” he said.
Despite Caguioa’s impressive numbers, Ginebra coach Jong Uichico said his top gunner is still not in tip-top shape.
“I think he’s 80 percent,” Uichico said. “Hopefully he can get to 100 percent as the season goes on. He has lost a step, he has lost a jump, but that’s because sometimes it’s psychological. Once Mark gains confidence like in this game... hopefully he can get to where he wants to be.”
He may have lost a step, but not the will power.
His third quarter explosion is a testament to Caguioa’s determination.
“I don’t want to go hard but I had to (against SMB). I can’t help myself,” he said.
Jayjay Helterbrand, the other half of Ginebra’s Fast and Furious tandem, added 17 points, seven rebounds and nine assists as the Kings underscored their readiness to contend for the title.
In the first game, Alaska Milk played just hard enough to defeat Barako Bull, 99-83.
Meantime, five more teams, including defending champion Talk ’N Text, will make their respective season debuts today at the Araneta Coliseum.
The Tropang Texters face the Rain or Shine Elasto Painters at 7:30 p.m., right after the 5 p.m. encounter between the Coca-Cola Tigers and the Sta. Lucia Realtors.
Smart-Gilas, a guest team in the Philippine Cup, battles Burger King at 2:30 p.m.
Talk ’N Text is aiming to become the first team to defend the all-Filipino Cup championship since Great Taste won back-to-back AFC titles in 1984 and 1985.
The game between SLR and Coke will feature the return of 2008 MVP Kelly Williams, who missed the second half of the season-ending Fiesta Cup due to blood disorder, and Dennis Espino facing his old team, the Realtors.
The Nationals, to be handled by Serbian Rajko Toroman, will take on the Whopper in the curtain raiser with attention centered on controversial player Japeth Aguilar, who made his PBA debut last Sunday with Burger King but was dealt to TNT in a three-team trade with Barako Bull as conduit.
tamagurl87
10-16-2009, 10:01 AM
kulilots pala buhok ni MC?
(trans: MC is curly...ahehehe)
im just not used to it...
hope he'll have his hair shaved
donspark47
10-19-2009, 03:37 AM
another win by BGK...:D
donspark47
10-19-2009, 03:43 AM
Next stop - Mark Caguioa vs Chris Tiu?
I hope Erick Menk will be suited up for the next game against Smart-Gilas... if Erick Menk played the next game..the game will be more excitement... without erick menk the frontline of Smart-Gilas will demolish the game...they have their advantage but winning is a 50-50.:rolleyes:
Jeon_Addict
03-30-2010, 05:45 PM
guys... please vote for Mark, I think he deserves to be in the starting lineup!
pba.ph vote him there... I think he's currently no. 3 for guards, only 2 guards will comprise the starting lineup he's lagging behind by 5k votes. :D
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Uto-uto PBA Fans
03-30-2010, 07:53 PM
guys... please vote for Mark, I think he deserves to be in the starting lineup!
pba.ph vote him there... I think he's currently no. 3 for guards, only 2 guards will comprise the starting lineup he's lagging behind by 5k votes. :D
OMG! Super shooter Mark Da Spark! Of course! Together with Super Dribol JayJay I love them both.
gergerbinx
03-31-2010, 03:15 AM
im not a hater.. but to be honest... there are a lot of guards in the league that are much more deserving than him... oh well... his in ginebra... they got numbers... let's just see if die hard fans can propel him to the starting line up.. just like what happened to AI in this year's all star break...
kitin_21
03-31-2010, 03:33 AM
guys... please vote for Mark, I think he deserves to be in the starting lineup!
pba.ph vote him there... I think he's currently no. 3 for guards, only 2 guards will comprise the starting lineup he's lagging behind by 5k votes. :D
ASA KA PA...
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Jeon_Addict
03-31-2010, 04:12 AM
Di ba all star game yun... E pang-all star laro niya e... :D Peace!
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LordOfLeyte
03-31-2010, 05:57 AM
I have to hand it to Caguioa, despite limited playing time for the past two conferences, he is still considered. Reminds me of McGrady.:D
saints13
03-31-2010, 07:02 AM
Caguioa reminds me of AI...
anyways, the last time I see him play on court, he can't gather himself...
nakakahabol yun kalaban kapag nsa loob si Caguioa, pinipilit nya makashoot e, nasisira rhythm ng buong team..nag-evolve na ang Ginebra, di na sila masyado dependent sa kamikaze play ni Caguioa...
translation:
Ginebra would be better of trading Ginebra, with the consistency of Tubid and the emergence of Intal, a ball-hogging Caguioa wouldn't be necessary
reamily
03-31-2010, 07:28 AM
Caguioa reminds me of AI...
anyways, the last time I see him play on court, he can't gather himself...
nakakahabol yun kalaban kapag nsa loob si Caguioa, pinipilit nya makashoot e, nasisira rhythm ng buong team..nag-evolve na ang Ginebra, di na sila masyado dependent sa kamikaze play ni Caguioa...
translation:
Ginebra would be better of trading Ginebra, with the consistency of Tubid and the emergence of Intal, a ball-hogging Caguioa wouldn't be necessary
I disagree to trade caguioa let caguioa accept that he is now one of veteran leaders of the team the one who give veteran smarts come playoffs I myself want him to retire in Ginebra jersey together with jayjay
I think he is waiting for someone to pass the baton "naudlot kasi yun trade eh":D trans: The trade did not push thru
capitantiago
03-31-2010, 10:01 AM
Caguioa reminds me of AI...
anyways, the last time I see him play on court, he can't gather himself...
nakakahabol yun kalaban kapag nsa loob si Caguioa, pinipilit nya makashoot e, nasisira rhythm ng buong team..nag-evolve na ang Ginebra, di na sila masyado dependent sa kamikaze play ni Caguioa...
translation:
Ginebra would be better of trading Ginebra, with the consistency of Tubid and the emergence of Intal, a ball-hogging Caguioa wouldn't be necessary
yeah. it is like voting iverson. lol
reamily
03-31-2010, 10:04 AM
yeah. it is like voting iverson. lol
Who is Tmac danny Seigle?:D:D:D
Big Ticket
04-01-2010, 12:11 AM
I have to hand it to Caguioa, despite limited playing time for the past two conferences, he is still considered. Reminds me of McGrady.:D
and guess who's #2 behind JJ in the voting for the guards in the north, its the great PAUL ARTADI!!!! are you kidding me? a lot of fans are really stupid!
reamily
04-01-2010, 12:35 AM
and guess who's #2 behind JJ in the voting for the guards in the north, its the great PAUL ARTADI!!!! are you kidding me? a lot of fans are really stupid!
it is if there are gilas fanboys there are these so called pba superstar kuno fanboys fans who thinks "mas magaling pa ang tingin ng fan sa player kaysa sa player mismo:D" trans: fans who emulate the likes of paul artadi as all star caliber players who I think will not be better than Rudy Lingganay in all aspects of the game:D
Big Ticket
04-01-2010, 12:54 AM
it is if there are gilas fanboys there are these so called pba superstar kuno fanboys fans who thinks "mas magaling pa ang tingin ng fan sa player kaysa sa player mismo:D" trans: fans who emulate the likes of paul artadi as all star caliber players who I think will not be better than Rudy Lingganay in all aspects of the game:D
well, if chris tiu gets to play in the PBA someday, im sure he will an all-star starter every year...even if he barely plays....he already has a huge fanbase....
elcian
04-01-2010, 01:16 AM
well, if chris tiu gets to play in the PBA someday, im sure he will an all-star starter every year...even if he barely plays....he already has a huge fanbase....
I don't think Chris Tiu won't not play though. He's not the most athletic player in the Philippines, but he has an extremely high basketball IQ and has an incredible feel for the game. He's tough and he's clutch too. He's a great great passer and just understands what to do all the time. He's cerebral in that sense. If he can learn to play the point full time, he could be an Olsen Racela type of player. Just for that alone, I'm sure he'd have a long PBA career. Even if will be over rated by a lot of people just because of his popularity :D
capitantiago
04-01-2010, 02:02 AM
Who is Tmac danny Seigle?:D:D:D
But D.S. has been Finals MVP 4 times while Half-Man, Half-Season has never been past the 1st round of the playoffs. lol
reamily
04-01-2010, 02:07 AM
But D.S. has been Finals MVP 4 times while Half-Man, Half-Season has never been past the 1st round of the playoffs. lol
uunga no that makes him the winner version of tmac :D
DeportGrahamLimMovement
04-01-2010, 02:10 AM
Caguioa a starter? Has PBA players' skills really deteriorated to this level?
Lebron23
05-30-2010, 07:20 PM
It's nice to see Mark Caguioa scoring a season high 28 points againts the Rain or Shine.
He's my favorite PBA player since 2001. MC has lost a step, but he is still one of the most productive players for the Barangay Ginebra Gin Kings.
Beastly
10-31-2011, 02:03 PM
Caguioa reminds me of AI...
anyways, the last time I see him play on court, he can't gather himself...
nakakahabol yun kalaban kapag nsa loob si Caguioa, pinipilit nya makashoot e, nasisira rhythm ng buong team..nag-evolve na ang Ginebra, di na sila masyado dependent sa kamikaze play ni Caguioa...
translation:
Ginebra would be better of trading Ginebra, with the consistency of Tubid and the emergence of Intal, a ball-hogging Caguioa wouldn't be necessary
1 year later: Tubid is inconsistent so is Intal and Caguioa is left alone.
MR. FAST
12-12-2011, 02:55 AM
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