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DanMajerle

05-11-2007, 08:53 AM

Would be nice to have a thread that gives an overview over the preliminary rosters for Eurobasket 2007 in Spain.

I'll start with Germany, where HC Dirk Bauermann announced the preliminary roster yesterday:

PG- Pascal Roller (Angelico Biella)
PG- Mithat Demirel (Galatasaray Istanbul)
PG- Steffen Hamann (brose baskets Bamberg)
PG- Misan Nikagbatse (Premiata Montenagaro)
SG- Nino Garris (Deutsche Bank Skyliners Frankfurt)
SG- Demond Greene (Alba Berlin)
SF- Johannes Herber (Alba Berlin)
SF- Robert Garrett (brose baskets Bamberg)
SF- Ademola Okulaja (Etosa Alicante)
PF- Guido Grünheid (Rhein Energie Köln)
PF- Jan Jagla (Turk Telekom Ankara)
PF- Sven Schultze (Armani Milano)
PF- Dirk Nowitzki (Dallas Mavericks)
C- Patrick Femerling (Caja San Fernando Sevilla)
C- Dirk Mädrich (Sigbasket Strasbourg)
C- Christopher McNaughton (Bucknell University)
C- Robert Maras (Giessen 46ers)

Straight forward

05-11-2007, 09:32 AM

Lithuania- preliminary NT:

PG- Sarunas Jasikevicius
PG/SG- Rimantas Kaukenas
SG- Arvydas Macijauskas
SG- Donatas Slanina
SF- Ramunas Siskauskas
SF- Linas Kleiza
SF- Simas Jasaitis
PF- Darius Songaila
PF- D. Lavrinovic
PF- K. Lavrinovic
C- R. Javtokas
C- Z. Ilgauskas

other leading applicants, imho: Reinaldas Seibutis, Paulius Jankunas, Jonas Maciulis.

damelo

05-11-2007, 11:28 AM

For France, there's no roster defined yet, but we will have:
3PGs(Parker, Janneau, Bokolo, Pellin, Gomis or Mokongo are in the choice I think)
1SG(Diarra, Ferchaud, Morandais?)
3SFs(Gelabale, M.Pietrus, Kirksay, Diawara, and others I think...)
2PFs(F Pietrus, Diaw)
3Cs(Weiss, Turiaff, Petro, Julian(even if he said he wouldn't come), Masingue?)

The sure guys are Parker, Diaw, F Pietrus, and Weiss I think.

elaj

05-11-2007, 02:03 PM

Slovenia NT isn't defined yet but still in my opinion those players come as an option:

PG - Goran Dragič (Polaris World Murcia, Spain)
PG - Aleksander Ćapin (Whirlpool Varese, Italy) **
PG/SG - Jaka Lakovič (Barcelona, Spain)
PG - Beno Udrih (San Antonio Spurs, USA)
SG - Sani Bečirovič (Panathinaikos, Greece) ***
SG - Samo Udrih (CB Granada, Spain)
SG - Aleksander Vujačič (Los Angeles Lakers, USA) *
SG/PG - Nebojša Joksimovič (Hemofarm, Serbia) *
SG/SF - Domen Lorbek (Union Olimpija, Slovenia)
SF - Goran Jagodnik (WTK Anwil Wloclawek, Poland)
SF - Marko Maravič (BC Kyiv, Ukraine)
SF - Boštjan Nachbar (New Jersey Nets, USA) ***
PF - Željko Zagorac (Ural Great Perm, Russia)
PF - Erazem Lorbek (Lottomatica Roma, Italy)
PF - Miha Zupan (Union Olimpija, Slovenia)
PF - Marko Tušek (Unicaja Malaga, Spain)
PF - Matjaž Smodiš (CSKA Moscow, Russia) *
PF/C - Goran Jurak (Climamio Bologna, Italy)
PF/C - Uroš Slokar (Toronto Raptors, USA)
C - Radoslav Nesterovič (Toronto Raptors, USA)
C - Hasan Rizvič (Bosna ASA, BiH) **
C - Smiljan Pavič (Helios Domžale, Slovenia)
C - Primož Brezec (Charlotte Bobcats, USA) ***

Coach: Aleš Pipan (WTK Anwil Wloclawek)

** Naturalized, Ćapin has Serbian passport but already played for our NT on European Championship in Serbia while Rizvič has BiH passport but said he is willing to play for our NT (he already played in youth U20 selection).

* Smodiš is always injured when it comes to playing for the National Team selection and Vujačič always declines the invitation for National Team camp in the summer so I won't be surprised if he does it again. Joksimovič was very unhappy after he was cut as last from the World Cup selection, he said something about not responsing to the coach's call next time.

*** Boštjan Nachbar (SF, New Jersey Nets, USA) - I heard he is thinking of resting in the summer. In my opinion a big blow for our NT if that happens. He is in great shape and our SF looks bad.

*** Primož Brezec (C, Charlotte Bobcats, USA) - He will rest in the summer and prepare for the next season. I hope he changes his mind.

*** Sani Bečirovič (SG, Panathinaikos, Greece) - I heard he is thinking of resting in the summer.

Sašo Ožbolt (SG/PG, Union Olimpija, Slovenia) - He is having a serious injury and is still recovering from it.

Marko Milič (PF/SF, Real Madrid, Spain) - will rest this summer after more then 10 years playing for NT. He had (is having) a foot injury during the season and needed 12 weeks to recover (is still recovering).

That's about it. I hope those who think about resting in the summer won't do that (Nachbar, Bečirovič), I also hope Smodiš returns to national team.;)

T.W.Is.M.

05-11-2007, 06:20 PM

No initial list of call-ups for Greece yet(the greek playoffs have just started so it's too early, but the candidates should be:
PG Thodoris Papaloukas (CSKA Moscow)
PG Dimitris Diamantidis (Panathinaikos)
PG/SG Nikos Zisis (Benetton Treviso)
SG Nikos Chatzivrettas (Panathinaikos)
SG Vassilis Spanoulis (Houston Rockets)
SG Kostas Vassiliadis (Unicaja Malaga)
SG Alexis Kyritsis (Maroussi)
SG/SF Michalis Pelekanos (Panellinios)
SF Michalis Kakiouzis (Barcelona) (c)
SF Stratos Perperoglou (Panionios)
SF/PF Panagiotis Vasilopoulos (Olympiacos)
PF Antonis Fotsis (Dynamo Moscow)
PF Kostas Tsartsaris (Panathinaikos)
PF/C Dimos Dikoudis (Panathinaikos)
PF/C Loukas Mavrokefalidis (Pamesa Valencia)
C Lazaros Papadopoulos (Dynamo Moscow)
C Sofoklis Schortsianitis (Olympiacos)
C Giannis Bouroussis (Olympiacos)

critter out on a walk

05-11-2007, 07:14 PM

TURKEY:

PG:
Kerem Tunceri (Real Madrid)
Ender Arslan (Panionios)
Engin Atsür (NC State University)
Hakan Demirel (Fenerbahce)
Baris Ermis (Turk Telekom)

SG:
Ibrahim Kutluay (Fenerbahce)
Serkan Erdogan (Tau Ceramica)
Cenk Akyol (Efes Pilsen)
Caner Oner (Alpella)

SF:
Hidayet Turkoglu (Orlando Magic)
Ersan Ilyasova (Milwaukee Bucks)
Cevher Ozer (Besiktas)
Serhat Cetin (Karsiyaka)

PF:
Kerem Gonlum (Efes Pilsen)
Kaya Peker (Tau Ceramica)
Mehmet Okur (Utah Jazz)
Semih Erden (Fenerbahce)
Bora Hun Pacun (Efes Pilsen)

C:
Huseyin Besok (Prokom Trefl)
Fatih Solak (Galatasaray)
Omer Asik (Alpella)
Ermal Kuqo (Efes Pilsen)

LuDux

05-12-2007, 08:20 AM

Sometime during this week official site of Lithuanian basketball federation added preliminary NT roster. Only difference from old is absence of Slanina. Probably mistake.
Rest of roster not mentioned previously:
Darius Šilinskis, Michailas Anisimovas, Povilas Čiukinas, Antanas Kavaliauskas, Marijonas Petravičius, Paulius Jankūnas, Andrius Šležas, Jonas Mačiulis, Artūras Jomantas, Mindaugas Lukauskis, Steponas Babrauskas, Renaldas Seibutis, Martynas Pocius, Darius Pakamanis, Tomas Delininkaitis, Vytenis Jasikevičius, Mantas Kalnietis, Marius Prekevičius, Rolandas Alijevas.

Srle

05-13-2007, 03:11 AM

These are my favorites for Serbian National Team.
PG:Marko Marinovic,Aleksandar Rasic,Milos Teodosic,
SG:Branko Cvetkovic,Milos Vujanic,Vasic Nikola
SF:Predrag Stojakovic,Aleksandar Pavlovic
PF:Zoran Erceg,Tadija Dragicevic,Nikola Pekovic
C: Darko Milicic, Kosta Perovic
Big blow will be absence of Krstic. Also I am not sure about Stojakovic status. And not sure what Pekovic is going to chose.Serbia or Montenegro.
Sakota might be goner which is good. But I am not happy to have Slavnic for new couch. There are rumors about him becoming new couch of Serbia. I would like to see Djurovic and Aleksanadar Djordjevic as assistent. Djordjevic will be national couch in the future. Maybe even this summer.

PRSURF

05-13-2007, 04:33 AM

Radmanovic will play

Srle

05-13-2007, 05:40 PM

I dont think so.

Buducnost PG

05-13-2007, 06:11 PM

Serbia

PG:
Vule Avdalovic (Pamesa Valenica)
Marko Marinovic (Girona)
Bojan Popovic (Dynamo Moskau)
Milos Vujanic (Panathinaikos)
Aleksander Rasic (Efes)
Milos Teodosic (FMP)
Marko Jaric (Minnesota)
SG
Igor Rakocevic (Tau)
Branko Cvetkovic (FMP)
Uros Tripkovic (Partizan)
Nikola Vasic (Alicante)

SF

Predrag Stojakovic (New Orleans)
Aleksander Pavlovic (Clevland)
Milan Gurovic (Zvezda)

PF
Zoran Erceg (FMP)
Ognjen Askrabic (Roma)

C

Darko Milicic (Orlando)
Kosta Perovic (partizan)
Nikola Pekovic (Partizan)
Mile Ilic (New Jersey)

TB-Fan

05-13-2007, 07:05 PM

PRSURF

05-14-2007, 01:19 AM

I dont think so.

SRB - Radmanovic delivers ultimatum before EuroBasket
BELGRADE (EuroBasket 2007) - A member of Serbia's NBA contingent, Vladimir Radmanovic, is causing a stir in Belgrade after declaring himself "ready” for national team duty but only if his demands on playing time are met.

"I'm always ready to play for Serbia,” he said in an interview with the Voice of America, "but, before my final decision, I would like to have a meeting with the head coach of our national team, Dragan Sakota, to see what his expectations are.

"Sincerely, I hope he will remain as our head coach. (But) I want to see if I can accept his thoughts or not.

"I don't want people to misunderstand me at this point, but if I play for Serbia - I want to play, not to be on the bench.

"I have much better ways to spend my summer, to work on my game and to be prepared for next season.

"I'm ready to accept an agreement if they give me important role in the team.

"Otherwise, nothing will happen. I really hope that some compromise can be reached.”

Bizarrely, shortly after making his thoughts known, Radmanovic slipped on some ice while walking in Utah and separated his shoulder.

That injury has knocked him out of action for a couple of months.

Radmanovic played for Yugoslavia, as the country was then known, when they won the FIBA World Championship in 2002 and had been a regular in the squad until last year.

In his interview, Radmanovic was asked about his thoughts on the EuroBasket in Spain.

"I haven’t thought about it, yet,” he said. "It's simply, I haven’t thought about it as no one has called me to discuss that issue.

"I don't know if they’re going to call me, as no from our basketball federation called me for Japan.

"For the list of the called players, I was informed by radio."

Sakota’s young squad that did not include Radmanovic reached the last 16 before falling to eventual gold medalists Spain.

It has been a difficult few months for Serbian national team players.

New Jersey's center Nenad Krstic saw his season come to a premature end when he suffered a serious knee injury while playing for the Nets.

New Orleans Hornets forward Predrag Stojakovic has also had knee surgery, which will sideline him until April.

From Darko Nikolic, Belgrade
FIBA

YOU SEE!! :rolleyes:

rikhardur

05-14-2007, 07:57 AM

Well he makes it depend on minutes on court, so there are still doubts that he'll play.
http://forums.interbasket.net/showthread.php?t=2824&highlight=radmanovic

qiangdade

05-14-2007, 10:13 AM

Genjuro

05-15-2007, 05:27 PM

Spain:

PG:
- José Manuel Calderón*
- Sergio Rodríguez*
- Carlos Cabezas*
- Raül López
- Ricky Rubio

SG:
- Juan Carlos Navarro*
- Rudy Fernández*
- Berni Rodríguez*
- Fernando San Emeterio

SF:
- Carlos Jiménez*
- Alex Mumbru*
- Sergi Vidal

PF/C:
- Pau Gasol*
- Jorge Garbajosa*
- Felipe Reyes*
- Marc Gasol*
- Fran Vázquez
- Jordi Trías
- Iker Iturbe

*These guys were already in the World Championships. We shouldn't expect many changes, and actually the list could end up being identical if Garbajosa recovers on time for the Eurobasket.

PG: Calderón is a lock. Sergio very likely. Cabezas is possible. López is playing at a great level; still he somehow duplicates Sergio Rodríguez's role, and his injury history is concerning. Rubio as the third PG would make the most sense given that he provides something completely different from Calderón and Rodríguez, but he's too young and won't go. Also there's the likely possibility that only two PGs are called, particularly since the coach might want 5 inside players now that Garbajosa is injured. In that case it would be Calderón plus Sergio (the most likely) or Raül López.

SG: Navarro and Rudy Fernández are locks for the NT. Berni Rodríguez is likely, has played a very good season, he's a nice teammate and useful off the bench. San Emeterio has to be considered after his excellent campaign with Akasvayu Girona, but I think Pepu will opt to keep the group. Again, the coach might also opt for calling only two SGs.

SF: Jiménez and Mumbru are almost locks for the NT. Unless the coach wants to go small in the roster and sacrifizes Mumbru, there's little room for speculation here.

PF/C: Pau Gasol, Felipe Reyes and Marc Gasol are locks. Garbajosa will be too if he recovers on time. If he's healthy, still another inside player could be called just in case, with Vázquez or Trías as the most likely choices. If Garbajosa doesn't come back, Iturbe emerges as another possibility, as he has experience with the NT and he's a very solid three-point shooter from the PF position, somehow replicating Garbajosa's role. However, Pepu might prefer to revamp the team's style and just go with the best players at this point, again Trías and Vázquez.

Billy

05-16-2007, 05:13 PM

PG Olivie Ilunga - 08 Stockholm HR
PG Mats Levin - Ignis Castelletto Ticino
PG Rudy Mbemba - Skyliners Frankfurt
PG Kenny Grant - Nantes
SG Mikael Lindquist - 08 Stockholm HR
SG Jim Nyström - Rhöndorf
SG Serkan Inan - Alpella
SG Henrik Carlsson - Sundsvall Dragons
SF Jonas Jerebko - Plannja
SF Olouma Nnamaka - Carrife Ferrara
F Jonathan Skjöldebrandt - Södertälje Kings
F Christian Maråker - CAI Zaragosa
F Brice Massamba - Warren Walker Prep
F Martin Ringström - Vichy
F Fredrik Jönzén - CB Huelva
F John Rosendahl - Plannja
F/C Joakim Blom - 08 Stockholm HR
F/C Joakim Kjellbom - Sundsvall Dragons

A brief look at the team tells me that we (as usual) lacks size underneath the basket. As John Pettersson-Rosendahl has declined an invite it is even more evident although I think his departure can be dealt with.
Maciej Lampe (F,C) would have been very usefull for Sweden, as would Damir Markota (F).
Im surprised to see that Tomas Massamba (g) has not been called up as he is a useful defender and a decent spot up shooter (besides being black and thereby, in my opinion, bringing Markoishvili one step closer to a KKK meeting) although we have quite a bit of depth in the back court.
Dimitris Charitopoulos (F) would have been a very nice addition with his height, size and tenacity.
Also, as this is a first gathering I would have liked to see Jeffery Taylor Jr (SG) and Sean Smith (F) as well as Jonathan Robinson (F, C)and Andreas Schreiber (C) called upon -just to get a first feel for what it will be like in the future.

Finally, I hope Jonathan Skjöldebrandt receives an invite and decides to represent Israel -its afterall the country who helped develope him to the player he is today.
I aslo have a strong suspicion that among the players who will be cut are Henrik Carlsson (his qualities can be replaced) and Serkan Inan (although his height at the SG position can be a nice change from what Mikael Lindqvist and Jim Nyström can offer.
Perhaps Jonas Jerebko will be cut as well (Sweden has a fair amount of players who can play the SF) but outside of Oluoma Nnamaka there is none with height enough to cover tall SGs. That will be an interesting decison on Flevarakis part.
I think Brice Massamba, although promising, is too inexperienced to make it as well.

On a personal sidenote, I find it nice to see that 7/18 players representing the Swedish NT has atleast one parent with a foreign passport -although I hope one in the selection decides to play for another country.

By the way, does anyone (Germans maybe) know when Christoffer Anrins doping ban will be lifted and perhaps even where he is playing/practicing at the moment?

TB-Fan

05-16-2007, 05:46 PM

SG Serkan Inan - Alpella

http://www.tbl.org.tr/beko/oyuncu.asp?Kod=3255

doesn't look like a player with future. :cool:

Trifilli

05-16-2007, 06:20 PM

Dimitris Charitopoulos (F) would have been a very nice addition with his height, size and tenacity.

Charitopoulos already played for Greece in a youth competition in 2002, so I guess that he's no option for Sweden.

By the way, does anyone (Germans maybe) know when Christoffer Anrins doping ban will be lifted and perhaps even where he is playing/practicing at the moment?

Anrin was only banned for 6 months (March 2006) and then continued his career with the Scottish Rocks, a club with close connections to the Giessen 46ers (Giessen just signed Rocks coach Thorsten Leibenath as their new headcoach - Leibenath already worked for the 46ers before, met Anrin there and brought him to the Rocks). I think that Anrin also had some sort of injury over there though and didn't play that much therefore.

Buducnost PG

05-16-2007, 06:34 PM

Charitopoulos already played for Greece in a youth competition in 2002, so I guess that he's no option for Sweden.

If this was on a U16 EC then he still have the right to play for another country.

Trifilli

05-16-2007, 06:45 PM

If this was on a U16 EC then he still have the right to play for another country.

It was the U20 EC in 2002, where he won the Gold with Greece (role player), together with players like Nikos Zisis and Vassilis Spanoulis.

rikhardur

05-16-2007, 07:15 PM

No Portuguese preliminary roster yet, but this is the definitive team I think should go:

Guards: Miguel Minhava, Filipe da Silva, Diogo Carreira
Fowards: Nuno Marçal, João Gomes, Sérgio Ramos, Paulo Cunha, João Santos
Centres: Élvis Évora, Jorge Coelho, Francisco Jordão, Miguel Miranda

PHILIPeurobasket

05-16-2007, 07:54 PM

Polish NT and his wide roster:

Wiktor Grudziński, Andrzej Pluta (Anwil Włocławek)
Dawid Witos (AZS Koszalin)
Mateusz Jarmakowicz (Benetton Treviso)
Bartosz Diduszko, Radosław Hyży, Marcin Stefański (Śląsk Wrocław)
Tomasz Kęsicki (Bipop - C Reggio Emilia)
Kordian Korytek (BK Prostejov)
Michał Ignerski (Caja San Fernando)
Krzysztof Szubarga (Sportino Inowrocław)
Maciej Lampe (Khimki Moskwa)
Łukasz Koszarek, Krzysztof Roszyk (BOT Turów Zgorzelec)
Szymon Szewczyk (Legea Scafati)
Robert Skibniewski (Polpak Świecie)
Kamil Pietras (Postojna)
Flipi Dylewicz, Jeff Nordgaard, Adam Wójcik (Prokom Trefl Sopot)
Marcin Gortat (Rheinenergie Kolonia)
Paweł Kikowski (Kotwica Kołobrzeg)
Cezary Trybański (Tulsa 66ers)
Bartosz Sarzało (Unia Tarnów)
Michał Chyliński (Unicaja Malaga)

Coach: Andrej Urlep

Billy

05-16-2007, 07:58 PM

It was the U20 EC in 2002, where he won the Gold with Greece (role player), together with players like Nikos Zisis and Vassilis Spanoulis.

I did not know that, all I remember is that he took some part in a youth NT camp in Sweden when he was younger.

Given that, with the loss of Markota to Croatia, Lampe to Poland, Charitopoulos to Greece and that PG who blew out his knee to Turkey, Sweden has lost 4/5ths of the countrys potential future starting 5 to other countries.

I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

It does not taste well.

I have seen a thread about different countries potential youth talents but with this track record I will abstain from writing down the youth talent in Sweden -atleast until after this summer when they have represented Sweden and the likelihood of them representing the country in the future is far greater.

And we have a big one, maybe (probably?) one of the biggest in Europe.

Anrin was only banned for 6 months (March 2006) and then continued his career with the Scottish Rocks, a club with close connections to the Giessen 46ers (Giessen just signed Rocks coach Thorsten Leibenath as their new headcoach - Leibenath already worked for the 46ers before, met Anrin there and brought him to the Rocks). I think that Anrin also had some sort of injury over there though and didn't play that much therefore.

Thanks for the info, do you have any idea what kind of injury it was and if he is cleared to play in the BBL again (more harsh punishments in the BBL?).
What would you say are the odds of seeing him suiting up for Giessen again?

Too bad he is so one dimensional, he was a pretty gifted player before going to Providence.

Buducnost PG

05-16-2007, 08:01 PM

Given that, with the loss of Markota to Croatia, Lampe to Poland, Charitopoulos to Greece and that PG who blew out his knee to Turkey, Sweden has lost 4/5ths of the countrys potential future starting 5 to other countries.

Why do you say that Sweden has lost these players? Do you realy expected that Markota or Lampe would play for Sweden? Markota (then Omerhodzic) went to Croatia with 14 again and learn the main stuff there. He is also not born in Sweden.

Billy

05-16-2007, 08:16 PM

Why do you say that Sweden has lost these players? Do you realy expected that Markota or Lampe would play for Sweden? Markota (then Omerhodzic) went to Croatia with 14 again and learn the main stuff there. He is also not born in Sweden.

I would have liked them to play for the country that taught them to play basketball.

Lampe had, as far as I know, never taken part in an organized practice in his entire friggin life before commiting to the Polish youth NT.

Never.

They both, along with that PG who was supposed to play for Turkey, played for the same local youth team in Stockholm.
I wonder what the odds are of local neighbourhood team in Sweden -ever- to amass that much talent again.

And yes, I definitely think that a NT should be a reflection of a countrys ability to develope talent. Not claim them by some ancestral roots whatever that may be.

He is also not born in Sweden.

Point being?

rikhardur

05-16-2007, 10:52 PM

The Portuguese preliminary roster has been revealed (in brackets the number of caps):

G - Filipe da Silva - CAB Madeira (48)
G - Miguel Minhava - Benfica (17)
G - João Figueiredo - Lusitânia (0)
G - Mário Fernandes - Balneario de Archena (0)
G - Paulo Simão - Belenenses (99)
F - Paulo Cunha - FC Porto (45)
F - Sérgio Ramos - Palma Aqua Mágica (78)
F - Carlos Andrade - Benfica (32)
F - João Gomes - Barreirense (8)
F - João Santos - Valladolid (53)
F - Nuno Marçal - FC Porto (65)
C - Francisco Jordão - Petro de Luanda (58)
C - Miguel Miranda - Ovarense (37)
C - Élvis Évora - Ovarense (78)
C - Jorge Coelho - FC Porto (39)
C - Nuno Cortez - Ovarense (5)

Coach: Valentyn Melnychuk

Trifilli

05-17-2007, 08:15 AM

I did not know that, all I remember is that he took some part in a youth NT camp in Sweden when he was younger.

Do you know when he played in Sweden (because I actually didn't know until you told me in another thread)? From what I know he was born in Alexandria (northern Greece) and played there for the local team Alexandria Imathias from 1996 - 2001. Then he played one season for GS Siatistas (northern Greece as well), until he joined Aris in 2002. So I guess that he must've played in Sweden before 1996, I wouldn't really call that a loss for Sweden, as he must've left Sweden again as 12/13 year old the latest, I wouldn't be surprised if most people over there didn't even knew about this kid any more. Greece didn't call him up until he was 19 and already playing for Aris, so there would've been enough time for Sweden to call him up before - my guess is that he was just too young when he left Sweden and nobody remembered him (like I said, I don't know when he left Sweden). Or did he take part in a swedish youth Camp at a later time?

Thanks for the info, do you have any idea what kind of injury it was and if he is cleared to play in the BBL again (more harsh punishments in the BBL?).
What would you say are the odds of seeing him suiting up for Giessen again?

Too bad he is so one dimensional, he was a pretty gifted player before going to Providence.

I think it was some kind of knee injury, but don't quote me on that. He's cleared to play in the BBL since one year already (the BBL doping ban was a 6 months ban) and depending on his physical status (injury?) the chance that he might come back to Giessen should be there (despite the fact that he never was more than a role player there), given that his coach at the Scottish Rocks - Thorsten Leibenath - now coaches the 46ers.

Billy

05-17-2007, 10:43 AM

Do you know when he played in Sweden (because I actually didn't know until you told me in another thread)? From what I know he was born in Alexandria (northern Greece) and played there for the local team Alexandria Imathias from 1996 - 2001. Then he played one season for GS Siatistas (northern Greece as well), until he joined Aris in 2002.

He was actually on the Malbas active roster the last season they had a license to partake (barely) in the Swedish Basketball league and that was the season of 2003-2004. I could be wrong here but Im 99% certain I am not.

He could have been on loan though, I remember he disappeared from it after Christmas of that season.
There is a strong case for some sort of co-operation betweeen Aris and MalBas of sorts as Costas Baltatzis (sp?) held (holds?) a position in MalBas.

So I guess that he must've played in Sweden before 1996, I wouldn't really call that a loss for Sweden, as he must've left Sweden again as 12/13 year old the latest, I wouldn't be surprised if most people over there didn't even knew about this kid any more. Greece didn't call him up until he was 19 and already playing for Aris, so there would've been enough time for Sweden to call him up before - my guess is that he was just too young when he left Sweden and nobody remembered him (like I said, I don't know when he left Sweden). Or did he take part in a swedish youth Camp at a later time?

He was called upon for the tryouts of the all regional team (first step towards a youth NT) the year he turned 15 so that must have been in -98 and he was definitely playing in Sweden for MalBas at that time (they only call players living in that region).

The fact that he has, if I am not completely out with the fairies, been traveling like a madman between Sweden/Malmö and Greece makes no sense unless he still has family in Sweden. Is one of his parents Swedish or what was the reason he lived in Sweden otherwise (I know it was not for the climate:rolleyes:)?

I think it was some kind of knee injury, but don't quote me on that. He's cleared to play in the BBL since one year already (the BBL doping ban was a 6 months ban) and depending on his physical status (injury?) the chance that he might come back to Giessen should be there (despite the fact that he never was more than a role player there), given that his coach at the Scottish Rocks - Thorsten Leibenath - now coaches the 46ers.

Thanks for the info, with risk of going even further OT, I´d like to link to the thread I have started at the German page (http://forums.interbasket.net/showthread.php?p=57188#post57188).

reason for editing: fixed a quotation and added the part with Costas Baltatzis

Trifilli

05-17-2007, 12:15 PM

He was actually on the Malbas active roster the last season they had a license to partake (barely) in the Swedish Basketball league and that was the season of 2003-2004. I could be wrong here but Im 99% certain I am not.

He could have been on loan though, I remember he disappeared from it after Christmas of that season.
There is a strong case for some sort of co-operation betweeen Aris and MalBas of sorts as Costas Baltatzis (sp?) held (holds?) a position in MalBas.

Well, he definately was on Aris pro team roster during the 2003-2004 season (as in 2002-2003, 2004-2005 and 2005-2006) and also played some games for them. He didn't play much during that season, but I also found him as DNP on statsheets a few times, so that doesn't leave much time where he could've been loaned to Malbas, maybe the first few games, I don't know.

He was called upon for the tryouts of the all regional team (first step towards a youth NT) the year he turned 15 so that must have been in -98 and he was definitely playing in Sweden for MalBas at that time (they only call players living in that region).

The fact that he has, if I am not completely out with the fairies, been traveling like a madman between Sweden/Malmö and Greece makes no sense unless he still has family in Sweden. Is one of his parents Swedish or what was the reason he lived in Sweden otherwise (I know it was not for the climate:rolleyes:)?

I don't have an idea what connection he has to Sweden, until you mentioned it I had no idea that there even was one. Sadly I couldn't find out anything more about this. All I know is that he was born in Alexandria/Greece and is said to have played for Alexandrias local team from 1996 to 2001 (when he is said to have moved to the local team from Siatista for one year, before joining Aris). Maybe he has family connections to Sweden and also spent some time there (summer holidays are pretty long in Greece and he might've played in Sweden during that time?)? I really have no other explanation than that, otherwise my information is wrong.
All I know for a fact is that he played for Aris since 2002 (until this seasonm when he moved to PAOK) and won the U20 EC Gold with Greece in the very same year.

Srle

05-17-2007, 08:03 PM

Radmanovic wont be invited. I hope so.

ziv

05-18-2007, 02:47 PM

Finally, I hope Jonathan Skjöldebrandt receives an invite and decides to represent Israel -its afterall the country who helped develope him to the player he is today.
not too likely he'll be invited soon to the NT, though i would at least be glad if coach sheref considers him (and watch some of his tapes). anyway, i don't see him playing for the NT this summer and if he has a chance to do so for the swedish NT i'd say go for it. (btw i owe you some words about colman's season...)
i'm just curious if it's anywhere mentioned that joakim noah would at least be invited or does you know that you don't stand a chance against france or the usa so you don't even talk about it in sweeden...
israel NT squad (26 players) published by coach sherf earlier this week (positions are fluid):
guards:
yotam halperin - maccabi tel aviv
tal burstein - maccabi tel aviv *
meir tapiro - hapoel jerusalem
dror hajaj - hapoel jerusalem
amit ben david - nahariya
raviv limonad - nahariya
erez katz - bnei hasharon
moran rot - ramat gan
jeron roberts - ael limosol **
afik nissim - strasbourg
roei berkovic - dan hague ***
forwards:
sharon sasson - maccabi tel aviv
jamie arnold - maccabi tel aviv **
lior elyahu - maccabi tel aviv
matan naor - hapoel jerusalem
guy pnini - hapoel jerusalem
moshe mizrahi - bnei hasharon
or eytan - ashkelon
itzik ohanon - ramat gan
omri casspi - galil elyon
gur shelef - antwerp
centers:
erez markovic - hapoel jerusalem
ido kozikaro - nahariya
mushon yakusi - ashkelon
amit tamir - ael larissa
yaniv green - maccabi tel aviv
* - it was published that he asked for a summer off the NT (last year he suffered an injury)
** - naturlised, only one out of the the 2 will play for the NT. atm it seems like it won't be arnold who might be back in the acb next season.
*** - was recently suspended for 11 monthes for drugs charges.

Buducnost PG

05-18-2007, 02:58 PM

afik nissim - strasbourg

He is israelian? I always thought he is from an country like algeria, lebanon and so on. I thought this because of his name.

Billy

05-18-2007, 04:43 PM

not too likely he'll be invited soon to the NT, though i would at least be glad if coach sheref considers him (and watch some of his tapes). anyway, i don't see him playing for the NT this summer and if he has a chance to do so for the swedish NT i'd say go for it. (btw i owe you some words about colman's season...)
i'm just curious if it's anywhere mentioned that joakim noah would at least be invited or does you know that you don't stand a chance against france or the usa so you don't even talk about it in sweeden...

Representatives from the Swedish federation has actually talked to Noah, the first time before his freshman season at Florida but I dont know how frequent the conversations has been or what was talked about. I do know for a fact that he has never been invited to partake in NT pratices and I dont see any point in doing so as he does not really have any connection to Sweden outside of his mother having a Swedish citizenship (he does not really speak Swedish and only spends about a week and a half a year in the country (during midsummer)nor has he ever played organized basketball here).

Point being: If he wants to represent Sweden he can call the Federation but I would not like the Federation to pursue it at all.

I guess it is a similar case with Skjöldebrandt, if he made the initial contact with the Federation I guess it is all nice and dandy but I would not like to see Fed people trying to convince him.

You represent your country out of love and conviction -not out of a need for fame, a better CV or because someone did not stop leaving messages on your voicemail.

As for Skjöldebrandts chances of being selected: quite slim, Flevarakis could never leave out Ringström or Nnamaka and Maråker should also be alot better unless he has regressed substantially.

Regarding Colman: gimme heads up when you have a chance.

rikhardur

05-18-2007, 06:32 PM

Afaik Noah is willing to play for France, but who knows.

Buducnost PG

05-21-2007, 05:33 PM

It looks like Radmanovic will be with the serbian NT this summer. From the talent he would definetly help, especially at PF if Krstic will be out. But he is a troublemaker. We´ll se what will happen.

rikhardur

05-21-2007, 06:55 PM

Buducnost PG

05-21-2007, 07:55 PM

Bostjan Nachbar (207-G/F-80, agency: Interperformances) announced he would not play for the Slovenian National team in European Championship. "I just need a break. Seven years in a row I've played already and next year is a big year, my contract year. I want to use this summer to get ready for next season instead of coming into training camp tired and beat up. "Fans are already calling and making a big deal out of it. It's not nice when you're home and you open a newspaper and they're saying you're selfish and don't care about your own country. It's not nice,« said Bostjan Nachbar.

From eurobasket. Thats a bad information for Slovenian NT. But if he played 7 years in a row he deservs a rest, if he will be with the NT in the next years again.

I realy hope we will not get so many absences from the NT´s this year. I wanted to see a quality and interestinc EC.

elaj

05-21-2007, 08:22 PM

I just hate such "stars" who behave as Nachbar. Dirk Nowitzki should be a great example for every NBA player who declines NT invitation. Dirk is a leader of his team, plays huge minutes in every game, while Nachbar is just 6th man. I just don't get it how pro basketball player gets suddenly so tired when it comes to playing for his own country. :(

I wouldn't say anything if he would have an injury to heal, but this is just crap. I wouldn't also be against him when it comes to skipping the summer for NT when he will be like 30-32 years old, but he is 26 and probably at his peak of abilities.

"Fans are already calling and making a big deal out of it. It's not nice when you're home and you open a newspaper and they're saying you're selfish and don't care about your own country. It's not nice,« said Bostjan Nachbar.

Boki... truth always hurts. :mad:

Brezec, Nachbar... who is next?

spanishman

05-22-2007, 10:14 AM

Spanish National Team (probably squad)

1. RAÚL LÓPEZ (REAL MADRID), CALDERÓN (TORONTO RAPTORS), CABEZAS (UNICAJA), RUBIO (JOVENTUT) and RODRÍGUEZ (PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS)
2. NAVARRO (BARCELONA), RUDY FERNÁNDEZ (JOVENTUT) and BERNI RODRÍGUEZ (UNICAJA).
3. JIMÉNEZ (UNICAJA), SAN EMETERIO (AKASVAYU), MUMBRÚ (REAL MADRID), VIDAL (TAU CERÁMICA).
4. GARBAJOSA (TORONTO RAPTORS), REYES (REAL MADRID), FRAN VÁZQUEZ (BARCELONA) and TRIAS (BARCELONA).
5. PAU GASOL (MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES), MARC GASOL (AKASVAYU), MIRALLES (PAMESA) and HERNÁNDEZ SONSECA (REAL MADRID)

The best team in the world??????

boki

05-22-2007, 12:44 PM

Nachbar will rather be promoting NBA in Africa this summer than his country on Eurobasket. Here we go with Jagodnik as our starting SF. Watch out Poland :p

pablonis

05-22-2007, 01:47 PM

Spanish...
The best team in the world??????

We'll see about that ;)
________
Bessyonok (http://camslivesexy.com/cam/Bessyonok)

LuDux

05-22-2007, 01:56 PM

The best team in the world??????

Yes, best team in the world last year

adebisi

05-22-2007, 01:59 PM

Brezec, Nachbar... who is next?
Get used to it, we already did ;)

Levenspiel

05-22-2007, 03:30 PM

Brezec, Nachbar... who is next? Get used to it, we already did ;)
...and maybe that's better this way ;)

Neozyrus

05-23-2007, 01:07 AM

Yes, best team in the world last year

and this year, and next year... :D :D

turkishpower

05-23-2007, 10:15 AM

I don't think Nachbar is a special player that can carry Slovenia. Slovenia will be as good even without Brezec and Nachbar. But don't get it wrong. they are good up to some level :p

I personally hate players like Nachbar, Nocioni, Hermann, (maybe Welsch?) etc... A PF skilled players playing SF just because they are not strong enough to play inside. (including no special skills except making open perimeter shots.)

elaj

05-23-2007, 02:44 PM

I personally hate players like Nachbar, Nocioni, Hermann, (maybe Welsch?) etc... A PF skilled players playing SF just because they are not strong enough to play inside. (including no special skills except making open perimeter shots.)
Nachbar PF skilled? What are you talking about?

And yes, Nachbar in this form could be carrying our NT to better results considering we have NO quality players on SF.

turkishpower

05-23-2007, 03:35 PM

Nachbar PF skilled? What are you talking about?

And yes, Nachbar in this form could be carrying our NT to better results considering we have NO quality players on SF.

well, he is certainly not a good ballhandler like Hedo, Odom, Peja which all are 6-10. Where as I see him on the same level with Radmanoviç, Nocioni etc...

There is a huge difference between those two group of players. I hope you understand what I'm trying to tell. I'm not talking about who is better, I'm talking about who is "talented" in terms of ballhandling, shooting, and basic basketball fundemantals(playing smart)

Anyways, good luck to Slovenia. They are promising basketball country even though their population is not big in numbers.

Vilius

05-23-2007, 03:44 PM

turkishpower

05-23-2007, 03:46 PM

Basketnews.lt posted Darko Milicic quotation. I'll try to translate it.

"We will destroy all of them - Spain, Greece, Lithuania, Russia, France, Italy... They are good but we can defeate all of them. Spain is not unbeatable. I like playing against Pau Gasol - he is soft."

Obviously this was directed to the media otherwise it would be arrogant. What do you think about Serbia's chances?

lol Darko said all these? Who the hell is he? Does he think he is Dirk or something? Even Gasol is 10 times better than him. Serbia has no chances against Spain, Greece.

PHILIPeurobasket

05-24-2007, 06:53 PM

Here we go with Jagodnik as our starting SF. Watch out Poland :p

This will be very interesing :p

Polish NT roster on first camp:

Guards
Robert Skibniewski (Polpak Świecie), Łukasz Koszarek (BOT Turów Zgorzelec), Michał Chyliński (Unicaja Malaga), Krzysztof Szubarga (Sportino Inowrocław, I liga), Iwo Kitzinger (Polpharma Starogard Gd.), Andrzej Pluta (Anwil Włocławek)

Forwards
Paweł Kikowski (Kotwica Kołobrzeg), Robert Witka (BOT Turów Zgorzelec), Zbigniew Białek (Anwil Włocławek), Bartłomiej Wołoszyn (Anwil Włocławek), Marcin Stefański (ASCO Śląsk Wrocław), Michał Ignerski (Caja San Fernando Sewilla), Krzysztof Roszyk (BOT Turów Zgorzelec), Radosław Hyży (ASCO Śląsk Wrocław), Filip Dylewicz (Prokom Trefl Sopot), Adam Wójcik (Prokom Trefl Sopot)

Centers
Szymon Szewczyk (Legea Scafati), Cezary Trybański, Wiktor Grudziński (Anwil Włocławek), Maciej Lampe (Chimki Moskwa), Marcin Gortat (RheinEnergie Kolonia).

rikhardur

05-24-2007, 07:02 PM

Cezary Trybański
Is he without club?

PHILIPeurobasket

05-24-2007, 07:06 PM

Is he without club?

He play now for Tulsa in D-league. Here you can see stats http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/cezary_trybanski/index.html

rikhardur

05-24-2007, 07:16 PM

He play now for Tulsa in D-league. Here you can see stats http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/cezary_trybanski/index.html
Oh OK, I thought he had come back to Poland. Thanks anyway.

PHILIPeurobasket

05-24-2007, 07:23 PM

Oh OK, I thought he had come back to Poland. Thanks anyway.

No, I think that Trybanski have aspirations only for America ... In Poland some club want sign with him in last seasons, but he always so NO. When he go to USA, when he was in draft all Polish fans laugh that so poor player think about NBA, and maybe this is reason why Trybanski didnt want play in Poland :rolleyes: I dont know ...

rikhardur

05-24-2007, 07:26 PM

Well he certainly is wasting his time (and his career) there imo.

PHILIPeurobasket

05-24-2007, 07:41 PM

Well he certainly is wasting his time (and his career) there imo.

Yes you have right, but what we can do - this is his carrer. Some time ago I read on Polish site that he talk with Panionos Athens, but if I see now he stay in USA...

ziv

05-26-2007, 09:03 AM

poland has a great offensive front court - with lampe, szewczyk and gortat. all are quite big and very skilled on the offensive side. it should be difficult to stop them on one side. on the other hand they won't try to hard to stop the opponents on D. would be interesting to see the polish team as some players made great progress the past few years.

rikhardur

05-26-2007, 11:47 AM

Apparently Rakočević is a major doubt to play at Eurobasket. Because of physical problems, namely muscular ones, he still doesn't know if he'll play, he might opt to rest in order to effectively cure them.

PHILIPeurobasket

05-30-2007, 06:36 AM

Polish NT program:

20 June - 2 Luly: camp in Wloclawek;
3 - 15 July: Summer league in USA (California);
25 - 26 July: medical delve in Warsaw;
27 July - 10 August: camp in Slovenia;
11 - 15 August: tournament in Italy (Italy, Czech Rep., Latvia, Poland);
16 - 20 August: camp in Spala;
21 - 27 August: Tournament in Istambul (gr.A - Turkey, Croatia, Latvia, gr.B - China, Serbia, Poland) ;
29 - 31 August: NT in Warsaw;
3 - 16 September: tournament Spain 2007

Toxicity

05-30-2007, 01:15 PM

Italy NT Roster (likely):

PG: Bulleri, Di Bella (Pecile)
SG: Belinelli, Mordente, Basile
SF: Soragna, Gallinari, Mancinelli
PF: Bargnani, Galanda (Gigli)
C: Marconato, Rocca

Straight forward

05-31-2007, 01:11 PM

Italy NT Roster (likely):

PG: Bulleri, Di Bella (Pecile)
SG: Belinelli, Mordente, Basile
SF: Soragna, Gallinari, Mancinelli
PF: Bargnani, Galanda (Gigli)
C: Marconato, Rocca

Italy seems to be very dangerous team again. I still remember that horror in 2004 olimpics semifinal...

Picek

06-01-2007, 08:08 AM

Croatian NT roster
PG:
SG:
SF:
PF:
C:

only one thing is sure and that is coach Jasmin Repeša... and that's the only thing that matters..

spanishman

06-01-2007, 08:15 AM

Croatian NT roster
PG:
SG:
SF:
PF:
C:

only one thing is sure and that is coach Jasmin Repeša... and that's the only thing that matters..

THIS COULD BE A GOOD CROATIAN ROSTER IN SPAIN´07

Roko Leni UKIC (Barcelona)
Zoran PLANINIC (TAU)
Marko POPOVIC (Zalgiris)
Gordan GIRICEK (Utah)
Marko TOMAS (Real Madrid)
Branimir LONGIN (Sevilla)
Hrvoje PERIC (Split)
Dalibor BAGARIC (Girona)
Mario STOJIC (Mallorca)
Mario KASUN (Barcelona)
Damir MARKOTA (Milwaukee)
Nikola VUJCIC (Maccabi)

qiangdade

06-01-2007, 09:56 AM

THIS COULD BE A GOOD CROATIAN ROSTER IN SPAIN´07

Roko Leni UKIC (Barcelona)
Zoran PLANINIC (TAU)
Marko POPOVIC (Zalgiris)
Gordan GIRICEK (Utah)
Marko TOMAS (Real Madrid)
Branimir LONGIN (Sevilla)
Hrvoje PERIC (Split)
Dalibor BAGARIC (Girona)
Mario STOJIC (Mallorca)
Mario KASUN (Barcelona)
Damir MARKOTA (Milwaukee)
Nikola VUJCIC (Maccabi)

Yeah right... Leaving out players like zizic, nicevic, pasalic, rancic, kus (who had great seasons) just to aqueeze in longin and stojic (that play in spain) or 21 year-old peric... Oh, no, you are not biased, no...

Toxicity

06-01-2007, 01:11 PM

Italy seems to be very dangerous team again. I still remember that horror in 2004 olimpics semifinal...

I still remember it too... :D

elaj

06-01-2007, 01:22 PM

List of candidats for Slovenian NT (24):

Point Guards:
Beno Udrih (San Antonio Spurs)
Jaka Lakovič (Barcelona)
Aleksander Ćapin (Varese)
Goran Dragić (Tau Ceramica)

Shooting Guards:
Sani Bečirovič (Panathinaikos)
Nebojša Joksimovič (Hemofarm)
Samo Udrih (Granada)
Saša Vujačič (LA Lakers)

Small Forwards:
Saša Dončić (Helios Domžale)
Goran Jagodnik (Anwil Wloclawek)
Marko Maravič (BC Kiev)
Boštjan Nachbar (New Jersey Nets)
Domen Lorbek (Union Olimpija)

Power Forwards:
Dragiša Drobnjak (Turow Zgorzelec)
Uroš Slokar (Toronto Raptors)
Matjaž Smodiš (CSKA Moscow)
Marko Tušek (Unicaja Malaga)
Željko Zagorac (Ural Great Perm)
Miha Zupan (Union Olimpija)

Centers:
Rašo Nesterović (Toronto Raptors)
Smiljan Pavič (Helios Domžale)
Hasan Rizvić (Bosna ASA)
Goran Jurak (Climamio Bologna)
Erazem Lorbek (Lottomatica Roma)

Headcoach: Aleš Pipan (Anwil Wloclawek)
Assistent coaches: Aleksander Sekulič (Geoplin Slovan) and Gašper Okorn (Union Olimpija)

Basketball federation didn't yet talk with Nachbar and Vujačič about them playing for the NT so they were still included despite they will probably decline to join the NT.

Preparation program for EC in Spain of team Slovenia:

21.7. - 26.7. - Preparation camp Zreče (Slovenia)

28.7. - 2. 8. - Tournament in China (China, Angola, New Zealand, Venezuela and NBDL team)

6.8. - 10.8. - Preparation camp in Kranjska Gora (Slovenia)

10.8. - 12.8. - Tournament in France (Greece, Serbia and France)

15.8. - 20.8. - Preparation camp in Portorož (Slovenia)

20.8. - 22.8. - Tournament in Greece (Greece, Lithuania and Italy)

24.8. - 30.8. - Preparation camp in Maribor (Slovenia)

1.9. - Departure for EC in Spain (Alicante)

I see the tournament in China totally useless. Federation is throwing away the money in my opinion. :rolleyes: All the travelling will make our NT very fresh, damn morons. It's good we play two hardcore tournaments in France and Greece.

Zalgirinis

06-01-2007, 01:49 PM

Preparation program for EC in Spain of team Slovenia:

28.7. - 2. 8. - Tournament in China (China, Angola, New Zealand, Venezuela and NBDL team)

I see the tournament in China totally useless. Federation is throwing away the money in my opinion. :rolleyes: All the travelling will make our NT very fresh, damn morons. It's good we play two hardcore tournaments in France and Greece.

Oh yea someone likes the planes and jetlag. Luckily for you its the first tournament of preparation period and month before Eurobasket, so team might get back into rhythm. The perfect example would be Lithuanian NT, which before EC'01 went to Argentina for a tournament. We all know in what place Lithuania finished in 2001 having almost same team as in bronzen Sydney OG'00.

Basket_

06-01-2007, 01:57 PM

Preparation program for Lithuania national team:

July 9-19, 2007 - Training camp in Palanga (Lithuania)

July 21-27, 2007 - Training camp in Klaipėda (Lithuania)

July 27, 2007 - Friendly match with Sweden in Šiauliai (Lithuania)

July 28, 2007 - Friendly match with Sweden in Kaunas (Lithuania)

July 30 - August 3, 2007 - Training camp in Riga (Latvia)

August 4-6, 2007 - International tournament in Riga (Latvia). Participants: Latvia, Lithuania, New Zealand, Slovenia.

August 7-11, 2007 - Training camp in Druskininkai (Lithuania)

August 12, 2007 - Friendly match with Russia in Vilnius (Lithuania)

August 15-19, 2007 - Training camp in Valencia (Spain)

August 17-18, 2007 - Two friendly matches with Spain in Valencia.

August 20-24, 2007 - International Acropolis cup tournament in Athens (Greece). Participants: Greece, Italy, Lithuania, Slovenia.

August 26-30, 2007 - Training camp in Vilnius (Lithuania)

August 29, 2007 - Friendly game in Vilnius. Possible opponents: Latvia, Ukraine national teams or "Chimki", "Unics" clubs.

September 1, 2007 - Departure to EC in Palma de Mallorca (Spain).

Basket_

06-01-2007, 02:10 PM

Preparation program for EC in Spain of team Slovenia:

21.7. - 26.7. - Preparation camp Zreče (Slovenia)

28.7. - 2. 8. - Tournament in China (China, Angola, New Zealand, Venezuela and NBDL team)

6.8. - 10.8. - Preparation camp in Kranjska Gora (Slovenia)

10.8. - 12.8. - Tournament in France (Greece, Serbia and France)

15.8. - 20.8. - Preparation camp in Portorož (Slovenia)

20.8. - 22.8. - Tournament in Greece (Greece, Lithuania and Italy)

24.8. - 30.8. - Preparation camp in Maribor (Slovenia)

1.9. - Departure for EC in Spain (Alicante)
So Slovenia won't play in this tournament, which i posted in my post: "August 4-6, 2007 - International tournament in Riga (Latvia). Participants: Latvia, Lithuania, New Zealand, Slovenia."?

boki

06-01-2007, 02:48 PM

IMO these NT preparations should be cut to about 3 weeks (max 4). I don't think there would be much quality difference in the games. And in that case players wouldn't refuse to play for NTs in so many cases (especially in Slovenia).

Joško Poljak Fan

06-01-2007, 02:56 PM

Slovenia and some others have been invited to some chinese tournament last year as well, chinese federation is trying really hard to get some competitive tournaments in their country... from financial perspective as well, as far as I remember, so I don't think it'll really be a waste of money. Šešok knows better than that ;)

I'm missing Efes tournament :confused: it was the toughest preparation tournament over the last few years. At least the federation got some teams on the level this time, Lithuania, France, Greece, Serbia, Italy are much better choice than the opponents we were used to in he past.

TB-Fan

06-01-2007, 03:40 PM

turkishpower

06-01-2007, 09:41 PM

22.08-26.08 Turkey will play Efes Pilsen World Cup 2007 in Izmir (Halkapinar sports hall 10 000). Other Teams which will play in this tournament: China, Serbia, Croatia, Latvia, Poland.

thats awesome news since I live in İzmir, yeahhh :)

sashikas

06-03-2007, 10:59 AM

The new coach of the Serbian national team Zoran Slavnić has named 32 candidates to the national team:

Kosta Perović, Novica Veličković, Uroš Tripković, Milenko Tepić, Luka Bogdanović, Nenad Mišanović, Petar Popović, Tadija Dragićević, Milan Gurović, Vuk Radivojević, Nemanja Aleksandrov, Dragan Labović, Zoran Erceg, Branko Cvetković, Miloš Teodosić, Vladan Vukosavljević, Predrag Šuput, Stefan Marković, Mile Ilić, Darko Miličić, Vladimir Radmanović, Marko Jarić, Aleksandar Pavlović, Ivan Radenović, Vuk Ivanović, Nikola Dragović, Aleksandar Rašić, Miloš Vujanić, Bojan Popović, Vule Avdalović, Igor Rakočević and Marko Marinović.

It is yet unknown, what country will Nikola Peković choose to represent - Serbia or Montenegro.

Joško Poljak Fan

06-03-2007, 11:48 AM

It is yet unknown, what country will Nikola Peković choose to represent - Serbia or Montenegro.
he decided for Montenegro few days ago...

woma

06-04-2007, 08:26 AM

thats awesome news since I live in İzmir, yeahhh :)
It would be even more awesome, if NTV would offer a serious coverage of this tournament :).

TB-Fan

06-04-2007, 10:31 AM

It would be even more awesome, if NTV would offer a serious coverage of this tournament :).

I think there is no doubt about this. I think NTV will braodcast all the matches of the turkish NT. And the full efes world cup.

rikhardur

06-04-2007, 06:56 PM

France preliminary roster:

G - Tony Parker (San Antonio Spurs)
G - Cédric Ferchaud (EB Pau-Orthez)
G - Aymeric Jeanneau (Adecco ASVEL)
G - Yohann Sangare (Adecco ASVEL)
F - Boris Diaw (Phoenix Suns)
F - Yakhouba Diawara (Denver Nuggets)
F - Sacha Giffa (Strasbourg)
F - Joseph Gomis (Grupo Capitol Valladolid)
F - Tariq Kirksay (SLUC Nancy)
F - Michel Morandais (Eldo Napoli)
F - Florent Piétrus (Unicaja Málaga)
C - Frédéric Weis (Lagun Aro Bilbao)
C - Ian Mahinmi (EB Pau-Orthez)
C - Ronny Turiaf (Los Angeles Lakers)

Reserves:

G - Yannick Bokolo (Le Mans SB)
F - Mamoutou Diarra (Élan Chalon sur Saone)
F - Mickaël Gelabale (Seattle Supersonics)
F - Mickaël Piétrus (Golden State Warriors)
C - Pape Badiane (Chorale Roanne)

elaj

06-05-2007, 07:07 PM

What the hell is wrong with Claude Bergeaud?

Where is Johan Petro? Mickael Pietrus and Mickael Gelabale picked as reserves... you gotta be kidding me. :rolleyes:

rikhardur

06-05-2007, 07:36 PM

What the hell is wrong with Claude Bergeaud?

Where is Johan Petro? Mickael Pietrus and Mickael Gelabale picked as reserves... you gotta be kidding me. :rolleyes:
I don't get it either, I think his preliminary selection surprised everyone. Perhaps our fellow French here can she a light over this. Gelabale is stunned:

Mickael Gelabale has accepted, with gritted teeth, Claude Bergeaud's decision not to include him in France's 14-man preliminary squad for EuroBasket 2007.

Gelabale, who just completed his rookie campaign in the NBA with the Seattle Supersonics, was named as a replacement along with Golden State Warriors shooting guard Mickael Pietrus.

The two played on the French team that won a bronze medal at EuroBasket 2005 in Belgrade and also the side that finished fifth at last year's FIBA World Championship in Japan.

"I was surprised and disappointed," Gelabale said to L'Equipe.

"Claude told me last Saturday. I am trying to understand but I admit that, having listened to what he said to me, it isn't easy."

Nevertheless, the 24-year-old is frustrated at being passed over for SLU Nancy's Tariq Kirksay.

Gelabale said: "He (Bergeaud) has always spoken about playing as a team and about youngsters, but then he takes a 30-year-old naturalised American (he is talking about Kirksay, who is actually 27)! I am now going to get ready for next season."

Bergeaud admitted he did struggle to make up his mind on Gelabale.

"This was the trickiest decision, because he has given an athletic dimension to this team," Bergeaud said.

"But we are lacking players who are capable of being creative.

"However, Tarik Kirksay comes into this category and corresponds to the mentality of our squad.

"Therefore, he comes in for Mickael Gelabale, and it was easier to give a chance to Yakhouba Diawara (Denver Nuggets), who can play in three positions and has great defensive qualities."

The decision not to include Johan Petro of Seattle was easy for Bergeaud.

"He wants to play a major role that I can't guarantee him," Bergeaud said.

"Because in my eyes, he is currently behind Fred Weis (Bilbao), who is above him in the context of the international game, and behind Ronny Turiaf in the pivot."

Bergeaud also questioned Petro's work ethic.

"Last year, he stood about and did not play the role of energiser which, on the other hand, we can give to Ian Mahinmi (Pau Orthez).
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_Fz,msRqQIW6XTelhMYVbr2.articleMode_on.html

I really don't know...

PHILIPeurobasket

06-11-2007, 07:37 AM

Marcin Stefanski (199-F-83) was catched on using steroids - metanabol. He would be suspended by the league and he would be banned from the Polish NT.

raph

06-11-2007, 10:56 PM

I don't get it either, I think his preliminary selection surprised everyone. Perhaps our fellow French here can she a light over this. Gelabale is stunned:

I really don't know...

Even in france, most people are quite surprised to see gelabale on reserve considering what he brought during last european & world events. Nevertheless, as he pointed it himself, by taking kirskay at mike's place and adding diawara in the rotation, considering as well that diaw can play at the wing at times, the play time left would be more than short for such a player.
Something that not everyone shares, but i guess his choice remains logical in that sense. He had also declared after the world championship that not all NBA players would be selected. More or less everyone expected that M piétrus & johan petro would not be taken considering their level of commitment & their playing level during world championship.

For my part, i am really wondering if this is a good opportunity to launch a few international newbies (ferchaud, kirksay (but i support him on trying him, this guy is really an awesome player and guy), sangaré or even diawara (considering he was not in any scheme during last tournaments)).

Knowing that france struggled (to say the least) during last world championship with its offense, even if defense was ok, it's still a good move to try to fix it. I got to acknowledge that a lot of people were disappointing by the way france was playing and its lack of efficiency under the basket and above all behind the 6.25.
Still i tend to think that a lot of issues were due to parker's injury and i wonder if while fixing part of our offense, bergeaud is not going to weaken our defense (pietrus + gelabale are both pretty decent in that department as all knows).

We shall see anyway, if he succeeds (meaning if he manages to get an olympic ticket (rest being meaningless i guess anyone will agree)) i guess i will bow to his bravery & skill. if not, well... :rolleyes:

kecal

06-14-2007, 10:24 AM

Are those other French guards besides Tony Parker any good? I haven't heard much about them:o

raph

06-14-2007, 01:39 PM

None of them is obvious behind parker, that's the main issue. We don't have any reliable scorer (above all behind the 6.25) among them and they are average defenders.
Maybe next generation will provide what we miss between m'baye, diot, pellin and 1/2 more but for now that's clearly one of the team's weaknesses.

Efes_Istanbul

06-17-2007, 08:22 AM

Turkey:

PG:
Kerem Tunceri (Real Madrid)
Ender Arslan (Paninios)
Tutku Acik (Türk Telekom)
Engin Atsür (NC State)
Hakan Demirel (Fenerbahce Ülker)

SG:
Serkan Erdogan (Tau Ceramica)
Ibrahim Kutluay (Fenerbahce Ülker)
Ömer Onan (Fenerbache Ülker)
Muratcan Güler (Türk Telekom)

SF:
Hidayet Türkoglu (Orlando Magic)
Ersan Ilyasova (Milwaukee Bucks)
Cevher Özer ( Besiktas)
Serhat Cetin (Karsiyaka)

PF:
Kaya Peker (Tau Ceramica)
Kerem Gönlüm (Efes Pilsen)
Semih Erden (Fenerbahce Ülker)

C:
Mehmet Okur (Utah Jazz)
Ermal Kurqo (Efes Pilsen)
Oguz Savas (Fenerbahce Ülker)
Ömer Asik (Alpella)

hello my friend , is it our certain roster ?
I see , NBA players join to team again.
I think , this roster our greatest team in turkish basketball history

üstadım selamlar bu bizim kesin kadro di mi ? :)
bakıyorum da NBA ciler takıma geri dönmüşler.
bence bu bizim tarihteki en baba kadromuz.

Picek

06-17-2007, 10:56 AM

there are some street talks about Giriček saying yes for playing on EC...
that would be great for us, not because of his abilities to score but because with him on the field we have a different dimension of play..
he came back from US few days ago and he will call a press conference in the next few days..
if he says yes then Vujčić would probably say yes as well..

Stojakovic

06-18-2007, 10:11 AM

T.W.Is.M.

06-18-2007, 06:34 PM

Sevgili Efes İstanbul,

Okur ve Hido geliyorlar ve benim gördüğüm kadarıyla da, inanılmaz istekliler.

Dear, Efes İstanbul,

Okur and Hido are joining the team and as far as I saw, they are quite ambitious!

I'm not sure that this is good 4 u!Especially Turkoglu's presence...U had a very good team last year without NBA stars and with one more year of experience u could do even better and b candidates 4 a medal.Now I find it very uncertain what your team can do;maybe u will do even better, but maybe(>50% imo) not...

Straight forward

06-19-2007, 01:17 PM

I'm not sure that this is good 4 u!Especially Turkoglu's presence...U had a very good team last year without NBA stars and with one more year of experience u could do even better and b candidates 4 a medal.Now I find it very uncertain what your team can do;maybe u will do even better, but maybe(>50% imo) not...

agree. Turkey had a good team i Japan. Not the one who could compete for awards, but the one who fights till the end, and looking to the future it may become realy strong team, so it's a huge question about NBA players patricipation. We all saw what happend in 2005 EC and in 2003 EC the either?

The same goes to Serbia. Jaric is on the team. they will surely be impressive by BIG NAMES but the history from 2003 shows that it doesnt mean- good basketball.

For now, when the rosters getting clear, my list of favourites would be:

1. Lithuania. Since Jasikevicius, Siskauskas, Kaukenas and seems Macijauskas is going to play and there's no doubt about front line power (Songaila, D. Lavrinovic, K. Lavrinovic, Kleiza, Javtokas). it will be surely the strongest OFFENSIVE team in paper. And since Lith won EC 03 mostly because of magnificent offensive play and since Spain surely beat Greece (defensive team, imho) in WC final, i favour OFFENSIVE and CREATIVE basketball.

2. Spain. Imho, they are very similar to Lithuania. They are more orientated on offence. They have very strong players in each possition (starting 5 is great). But imho, Lith will be stronger in guards line. The Spain has advantage- Gazol. But we showed that we can deal with him in EC 03.

3. Greece. Very equal roster. The same team last 5 years (?). Very solid team play. Advantage- good defence. Disadvantage- when they can't dictate mid.temp game orientated on defence they loosing their game and can not compete in intensitive shooting basketball.

The rest are pretty much unpredictable, i would say:
4. France, 5. Serbia, 6. Italy, 7.Germany, 8. Turkey, 9. Slovenia. 10.Croatia. 11. Russia.

No offence :rolleyes:

boki

06-19-2007, 03:30 PM

Smodis confirmed today, that he will join slovenian NT again and will play on Eurobasket in Spain. Last time Smodis played for Slovenia was EC 2001 in Turkey.

Stojakovic

06-19-2007, 09:50 PM

Russia are coming up very strong.

Is it for sure that Jasikevicius going to play for the nation?

If it is, then he will surely change the rankings.

Straight forward

06-19-2007, 10:01 PM

Russia are coming up very strong.

say what?

Is it for sure that Jasikevicius going to play for the nation?

If it is, then he will surely change the rankings.

For sure.

Buducnost PG

06-19-2007, 10:27 PM

Milicic, Jaric and Vujanic will play for sure for Serbia. Also Pavlovic will likely play and Radmanovic, too. Gurovic will not play. He went craying from the field tonight, when Red Star again lost to Partizan.:D

Very positive thing is that Jaric has start with the preperation with the team. He is one of the 1st. I hope we will see the Jaric from 2001 and 2002 in Spain.

Rakocevic will mostlikely miss Spain.

TB-Fan

06-21-2007, 09:47 AM

The official turkish roster for eurobasket 07 Spain:

Ömer Aşık - Alpella
Cenk Akyol - Efes Pilsen
Ermal Kurtoğlu - Efes Pilsen
Kerem Gönlüm - Efes Pilsen
Hakan Demirel - Fenerbahçe Ülker
İbrahim Kutluay - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Oğuz Savaş - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Ömer Onan - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Semih Erden - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Fatih Solak - Galatasaray Cafe Crown
Ersan İlyasova - Milwaukee Bucks
Engin Atsür - North Carolina State
Hidayet Türkoğlu - Orlando Magic
Ender Arslan - Panionios Forthnet
Kaya Peker - TAU Ceramica
Serkan Erdoğan - TAU Ceramica
Tutku Açık - Türk Telekom
Mehmet Okur - Utah Jazz

-----------------------------------------
NO Kerem Tunceri :( :( I'm really dissapointed and sad. Cenk Akyol ??? This guy hasn't deserved to be in this roster. I hope that he will stay at home.

rikhardur

06-21-2007, 10:02 AM

The official turkish roster for eurobasket 07 Spain:

Ömer Aşık - Alpella
Cenk Akyol - Efes Pilsen
Ermal Kurtoğlu - Efes Pilsen
Kerem Gönlüm - Efes Pilsen
Hakan Demirel - Fenerbahçe Ülker
İbrahim Kutluay - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Oğuz Savaş - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Ömer Onan - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Semih Erden - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Fatih Solak - Galatasaray Cafe Crown
Ersan İlyasova - Milwaukee Bucks
Engin Atsür - North Carolina State
Hidayet Türkoğlu - Orlando Magic
Ender Arslan - Panionios Forthnet
Kaya Peker - TAU Ceramica
Serkan Erdoğan - TAU Ceramica
Tutku Açık - Türk Telekom
Mehmet Okur - Utah Jazz
Quite a roster, let's see if the chemistry is there.

AssAsin

06-21-2007, 10:34 AM

NO Kerem Tunceri :( :( I'm really dissapointed and sad. Cenk Akyol ??? This guy hasn't deserved to be in this roster. I hope that he will stay at home.
I think Cenk Akyol,Hakan Demirel,Ömer Asık and Fatih Solak will stay at home;)

turkishpower

06-21-2007, 11:08 AM

Here are the the 12 players who are going to be playing in the eurobasket(just my 2 cents, 6 players will be cut)

The ones who are going to be cut from the 18-man squad
Ömer Aşık - Alpella
Hakan Demirel - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Oğuz Savaş - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Cenk Akyol - Efes Pilsen
Semih Erden - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Tutku Açık - Türk Telekom

The 12-man final squad might be:
Ermal Kurtoğlu - Efes Pilsen
Kerem Gönlüm - Efes Pilsen
İbrahim Kutluay - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Ömer Onan - Fenerbahçe Ülker
Fatih Solak - Galatasaray Cafe Crown
Ersan İlyasova - Milwaukee Bucks
Engin Atsür - North Carolina State
Hidayet Türkoğlu - Orlando Magic
Ender Arslan - Panionios Forthnet
Kaya Peker - TAU Ceramica
Serkan Erdoğan - TAU Ceramica
Mehmet Okur - Utah Jazz

Ender-Engin as the PG's
İbo-Serkan-Ömer Onan as the SG's
Hido-Ersan as the SF's
Kaya-Gönlüm as the PF's
Memo-Ermal-Fatih as the C's

Maybe Tutku might make it also but who are you going to cut from the roster to get Tutku in? :rolleyes:

sashikas

06-21-2007, 07:39 PM

Straight forward

06-21-2007, 07:48 PM

According to Sport-express daily, Smodiš will play for Slovenia in EC'07.

"I hope the success will lead us in Spain, and it will let us fight for places in Bejing Olympics. I wouldn't be back, if I wouldn't believe in capabilities of this team."

Old news, but the quote is good ;)

I'm afraid that Slovenia with Smodiš or without him- has a very less chances in fighting for olimpic places. But i like Slovenia and i'll be for you in group D.

sashikas

06-21-2007, 07:58 PM

The coach of Latvian national team Karlis Muižnieks held a press conference today, where he announced the candidates' list for EC'07

Kristaps Valters ("Snaidero", Udine)
Sandis Buškevics ("ASK Riga")
Janis Blūms ("Lietuvos rytas" Vilnius)
Raimonds Vaikulis ("Ventspils")
Aigars Vītols ("Ventspils")
Armands Škele ("Barons" Riga)
Kristaps Janičenoks ("Telekom Baskets" Bonn)
Sandis Valters ("ASK Riga")
Ugis Vilums ("ASK Riga")
Akselis Vairogs ("Ventspils")
Gatis Jahovičs ("Anwil" Wloclawek)
Ernests Kalve ("46ers" Gessen)
Ivars Timermanis ("Ventspils")
Janis Porzingis ("TDShop.it" Livorno)
Pavels Veselovs ("Ventspils")
Uvis Helmanis ("Ventspils")
Maris Laksa ("Ventspils")
Kaspars Berzins ("ASK Riga")
Martins Skirmants ("Ventspils")
Kaspars Cipruss ("Ventspils")
Raitis Grafs ("Ventspils")
Andris Biedrinš ("Golden State Warriors")

interxavierxxx

06-22-2007, 03:58 AM

hey, what happened to Sarunas Jasikevicius? he's a very good player, he's the reason why Lithuania beat USA in the Olympics.

re5pectas

06-22-2007, 07:47 AM

hey, what happened to Sarunas Jasikevicius? he's a very good player, he's the reason why Lithuania beat USA in the Olympics.
:) nothing, he's being benched in NBA... but he plan to change club, if it's NBA - last chance, if Europe - he's a star again :)
He will play for Lith NT.

boki

06-22-2007, 10:52 AM

Slovenian coach Ales Pipan named 15 players and 4 reserves for Eurobasket 2007.

guards:
Sani Bečirovič Panathinaikos 194 cm 19. maj 1981
Aleksandar Ćapin Varese 186 cm 6. oktober 1982
Goran Dragić Tau Ceramica 190 cm 6. maj 1986
Jaka Klobučar Geoplin Slovan 198 cm 19. avgust 1987
Jaka Lakovič Barcelona 186 cm 9. julij 1978
Samo Udrih Granada 195 cm 2. avgust 1979

wings:
Goran Jagodnik Anwill 203 cm 23. maj 1974
Domen Lorbek Union Olimpija 198 cm 6. marec 1985
Emir Preldžić Geoplin Slovan 204 cm 6. september 1987

centers:
Erazem Lorbek Roma 210 cm 21. februar 1984
Rašo Nesterović Toronto Raptors 213 cm 30. maj 1976
Uroš Slokar Toronto Raptors 210 cm 14. maj 1983
Matjaž Smodiš CSKA Moskva 205 cm 13. december 1979
Gašper Vidmar Geoplin Slovan 209 cm 14. september 1987
Željko Zagorac Ural Great 204 cm 9. marec 1981

reserves:
Sandi Čebular Union Olimpija 196 cm 24. junij 1986
Smiljan Pavič Helios Domžale 210 cm 5. februar 1980
Hasan Rizvić Bosna 210 cm 18. januar 1984
Miha Zupan Union Olimpija 206 cm 13. september 1982

Players, who refused their partitipation because of various reasons are:
Beno Udrih, Aleksander Vujacic, Nebojsa Joksimovic, Marko Maravic, Bostjan Nachbar, Primoz Brezec, Marko Milic, Marko Tusek,...

turkishpower

06-22-2007, 10:58 AM

d@mn slovenia has no chance. everybody refusing to play. even with them they have no chance, but whatever :D

boki

06-22-2007, 11:21 AM

d@mn slovenia has no chance. everybody refusing to play. even with them they have no chance, but whatever :D

Yes, but look what happened to your NT last year. Without major players, no preasure but great games and final result in Japan. But still I don't think there is a way to get into 1/4 finals. We will fight with Poland for one victory in the group and if we win, we will go home after meeting 2nd from other group.

elaj

06-22-2007, 11:27 AM

rikhardur

06-22-2007, 11:39 AM

Straight forward

06-22-2007, 12:26 PM

d@mn slovenia has no chance. everybody refusing to play. even with them they have no chance, but whatever :D

personaly, i would say the some for Turkey ;) no offence

Straight forward

06-22-2007, 12:54 PM

In my opinion this selection has enough quality to compete with every team on Eurobasket.

Just check the probable starting lineup: Nesterovič, Smodiš, Jagodnik/Lorbek, Bečirovič, Lakovič. Four of them are major players and are able to play on the highest level. The only position which scares me is freaking SF. We really have no serious quality there. Anyway, I'm optimistic - in my opinion we can surprise everyone.

Those four players - Rasho, Bečirovič, Smodiš and Lakovič will have to lead this national team and I'm sure they are able to do that.

Imho, Slovenia staring lineup is pretty good and i wouldnt debase your team. It wouldnt be surprised if you would beat italy. it would be a surprise if you beat France, but it's not impossible. The main problem for you, will be short roster of quality players like Lakovic, Becirovic, Smodis. The same goes to Germany, Russia, Turkey (though Okur and Hedo are realy strong, but as a whole team- you're straggle strog bench).

TB-Fan

06-22-2007, 09:23 PM

Imho, Slovenia staring lineup is pretty good and i wouldnt debase your team. It wouldnt be surprised if you would beat italy. it would be a surprise if you beat France, but it's not impossible. The main problem for you, will be short roster of quality players like Lakovic, Becirovic, Smodis. The same goes to Germany, Russia, Turkey (though Okur and Hedo are realy strong, but as a whole team- you're straggle strog bench).

please wait until we play against your team. :) seems like you don't learn anything from last year. your front court is really poor in comparison to ours. and a Jasi who sat on the NBA bench a whole year is not the best PG anymore.

Levenspiel

06-22-2007, 09:37 PM

In my opinion this selection has enough quality to compete with every team on Eurobasket.

Just check the probable starting lineup: Nesterovič, Smodiš, Jagodnik/Lorbek, Bečirovič, Lakovič. Four of them are major players and are able to play on the highest level. The only position which scares me is freaking SF. We really have no serious quality there. Anyway, I'm optimistic - in my opinion we can surprise everyone.

Those four players - Rasho, Bečirovič, Smodiš and Lakovič will have to lead this national team and I'm sure they are able to do that.
I agree.

The European teams are really close. Anything may happen, and Slovenia has the capacity to surprise, especially given the relieved pressure on players' shoulders (I guess). Lakovic/Smodis duo can be fearsome.

Straight forward

06-22-2007, 09:42 PM

please wait until we play against your team. :) seems like you don't learn anything from last year. your front court is really poor in comparison to ours. and a Jasi who sat on the NBA bench a whole year is not the best PG anymore.

i yust can't wait, bro! ;) Front line? Can you tell me your 3 best front line players? by the way, in Japan we lost not because your front line were stronger, yust because we had one the only GUARD- Macas. And by the way, nobody knows who is JASKA at the moment, and i like this fact- isnt this fact mystifying ? :) and, guys, i dont like the fact that most people think "Lithuania waits for Saras who is the only one who can bring awards back again". Saras is one of the leaders, that's it. We have Siska, Kaukenas (who can easily play PG), Macas, Songaila- those guys isnt worse than Saras.

Anyway, sorry for talking much shit :) yust cant wait, and cant restrain thinking.

ArkadiosV2

06-22-2007, 11:19 PM

Slovenia beat Greece in the previous Eurobasket. Easily.

I believe they got a good squad. What about Nesterovic? Can't he help too?

T.W.Is.M.

06-22-2007, 11:26 PM

Slovenia beat Greece in the previous Eurobasket. Easily.

I believe they got a good squad. What about Nesterovic? Can't he help too?

That's not a special sign of potential.They do have it but the result against Greece doesn't prove anything imo.Greece has always more problems with the "eastern" teams(Serbia, Croatia, Russia, Slovenia and above all Lithuania) than against the "western" ones(Spain-forget last year's final, Italy, Germany and above all France).Slovenia has good players, but I think they need sth more 2 do the extra step.

elaj

06-23-2007, 08:44 AM

Slovenia beat Greece in the previous Eurobasket. Easily.

I believe they got a good squad. What about Nesterovic? Can't he help too?
Rasho will be there, don't worry. :)

turkishpower

06-24-2007, 09:11 PM

personaly, i would say the some for Turkey ;) no offence

lol no offense but I would say the same for Lithuania too :D :p

C-ka

06-25-2007, 09:08 PM

lol no offense but I would say the same for Lithuania too :D :p
but if you have any sense you do not really mind it.;) :D ...or do ya?:rolleyes:

Joško Poljak Fan

06-25-2007, 09:20 PM

but if you have any sense you do not really mind it.;) :D ...or do ya?:rolleyes:
he does mean it, ellaborating on your first 6 words you get the answer than...;)

Big Lebowski

06-26-2007, 09:07 AM

Unofficial Greek team (but many rumours say these will be the 17 players selected by Giannakis).

point-guards: Diamantidis (Panathinaikos), Papaloukas (CSKA Moscow), Zisis (CSKA Moscow*), Spanoulis (Houston Rockets), H.Harisis (Olympiacos)

shooting-guards: Hatzivrettas (Panathinaikos), Pelekanos (Panellinios)

small-forwards: Kakiouzis (Barcelona), Vasilopoulos (Olympiacos)

power-forwards: Tsartsaris, Ntikoudis (Panathinaikos), Fotsis (Dynamo Moscow), Printezis (Olympiacos*), Mavrokefalidis (Pamesa)

centers: Papadopoulos (Dynamo Moscow), Mpourousis, Shortsianitis (Olympiacos)

(*) Teams 2007/08

Some sources say that Perperoglou (Panionios) will be added to this group.

For the 12, don't be surprised to see Mpourousis instead of Ntikoudis.

raph

06-26-2007, 09:36 AM

Badiane will replace mahinmi (injured in SA and with a 2/3 month recovery planned) in the list concerning france's centers.

Basket_

06-26-2007, 11:30 AM

New Macedonian team coach Jovica Arsic announced candidates to play in national team. Macedonians will play in tournament against Swedian and Estonia for the last place in EC 07.

Vrbica Stefanov ("Montepaschi", Italy)
Vlado Ilievski ("VidiVici" Italy)
Dimitar Mirakovski (CSKA, Bulgaria)
Eftim Bogoev ("Strumica", Macedonia)
Jane Petrovski (MZT, Makedonia)
Toni Grncharov ("Strumica", Makedonia)
Darko Sokolov ("Strumica", Makedonia)
Aleksandr Kostoski ("Fersped Rabotnicki", Makedonia)
Riste Stefanov ("Lukoil Akademik" Bulgaria)
Ognen Stojanovski ("Fersped Rabotnicki", Makedonia)
Aleksandr Dimitrovski ("Feni Industri", Makedonia)
Marjan Gjurov ("Feni Industri", Makedonia)
Dime Tasovski ("Strumica", Makedonia)
Pero Blazevski ("Vardar", Makedonia)
Kiril Pavlovski ("Vardar", Makedonia)
Sinisa Avramovski (CSKA, Bulgaria)
Kiril Nikolovski (MZT, Makedonia)
Todor Gecevski ("Zadar", Croatia)
Dusan Bocevski ("Anwil", Poland)
Slobodancho Hadzivasilev ("Strumica", Makedonia)
Pero Antic ("Crvena Zvezda", Serbia)
Mladen Guroski ("Split", Croata)
Gjorgji Cekovski ("Cherkaski Mavpy", Ucraine)
Ryan Stack ("Olympiacos", Greece)
Predrag Samardziski (FMP, Serbia)
Dimitar Karadzovski ("Skallagrimur", Iceland)
Zlatko Gocevski ("Feni Industri", Makedonia)
Bojan Trajkovski ("Fersped Rabotnicki", Makedonia)
Mike Wilkinson ("Aris", Greece).

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spanishman

06-27-2007, 10:47 AM

Picek

06-27-2007, 10:56 AM

Incredible No Presence In List Of Raúl López (real Madrid) And Fran Vázquez (fc Barcelona).

Vasquez killed us in Beograd so I should be happy but the question is why? :confused:
he is not injured as far as I know.. so what's the problem?

spanishman

06-27-2007, 11:01 AM

Vasquez killed us in Beograd so I should be happy but the question is why? :confused:
he is not injured as far as I know.. so what's the problem?

THE PROBLEM MAYBE IS HIS APTITUDE.

Levenspiel

06-27-2007, 12:10 PM

Real's both guards were surprizingly not invited to the national teams. I'm quite content with the lack of Tunçeri as a Turk, and I guess Spanish fans won't miss Lopez too much either.

Straight forward

06-27-2007, 03:39 PM

so, Garbajosa will play?

Billy

06-27-2007, 04:57 PM

Sweden has anounced their roster for the friendlies against Denmark and Bulgaria:

Guards
Mats Levin, Ignis Castelletto Ticino, Italien
Olivie Ilunga, 08 Stockholm
Kenny Grant, Nantes, Frankrike
Rudy Mbemba, Skyliners Frankfurt, Tyskland
Jim Nyström, Rhöndorf, Tyskland
Mikael Lindquist, 08 Stockholm

Forwards
Oluoma Nnamaka, Carrife Ferrara, Italien
Serkan Inan, Alpella, Turkiet
Martin Ringström, Vichy, Frankrike
Emir Coco, Free agent
Jesper Andersson, Lafayette, USA

Centrar
Alexander Wikner/Nordberg ,Södertälje Kings
Joakim Blom, 08 Stockholm
Fredrik Jönzén, CB Huelva, Spanien
Joakim Kjellbom, Sundsvall Dragons

If we compare that to the previously released one we can see that Christian Maråker is missing and Skjöldebrant is absent as well. Jerebko has definitely turned down the mens team this year instead focusing on the U20 EC. The same probably goes for Massamba.

PG Olivie Ilunga - 08 Stockholm HR
PG Mats Levin - Ignis Castelletto Ticino
PG Rudy Mbemba - Skyliners Frankfurt
PG Kenny Grant - Nantes
SG Mikael Lindquist - 08 Stockholm HR
SG Jim Nyström - Rhöndorf
SG Serkan Inan - Alpella
SG Henrik Carlsson - Sundsvall Dragons
SF Jonas Jerebko - Plannja
SF Olouma Nnamaka - Carrife Ferrara
F Jonathan Skjöldebrandt - Södertälje Kings
F Christian Maråker - CAI Zaragosa
F Brice Massamba - Warren Walker Prep
F Martin Ringström - Vichy
F Fredrik Jönzén - CB Huelva
F John Rosendahl - Plannja
F/C Joakim Blom - 08 Stockholm HR
F/C Joakim Kjellbom - Sundsvall Dragons

Instead we see Emir Coco, Jesper Andersson and Alexander Wikner-Nordberg. Neither of those three will be selected.

I think its a mayor bummer that Maråker has declined an invite, suddenly we are not that deep at the 3 pos at all.

06-28-2007, 04:40 PM

after so many top stars that wont come to eurobasket i think we will see the worst tournament of all time.all big stars will be in holidays,
Germany will be again in top 3 places:)DIRK RULE:D

DanMajerle

06-28-2007, 04:48 PM

T. Parker, Gasol, Diamantidis, Papaloukas, Jasikevicius, Kirilenko, Navarro, Smodis, Okur etc.......
Definately not worse than Euro 2003, 2005 or WC 2006, rather better rosters this time.

06-28-2007, 04:53 PM

the list of the people that are missing is way too long..today i heard neither Rakosevic and Ilic will come for Serbia.Neither Vujcic.And the list is long.At least Greece and Spain are patriots.
I dont want to compare the tournaments of the past but if the list had for example 100 top players the 70 will not play.Disgrace for the NTs.i think only Mace and Pedja deserve not to play.

Joško Poljak Fan

06-28-2007, 05:00 PM

Ilić is a non-factor for Serbia absent or not absent...

Straight forward

06-28-2007, 05:09 PM

Not so bad:

Spain- fool squad
Greece- fool squad
Lithuania- preliminary almost fool squad
France- fool squad
Italy- fool squad
Turkey- fool squad
Serbia- strong squad in paper anyway

DanMajerle

06-28-2007, 05:14 PM

Players like Okur, Turkoglu, Bargnani, Smodis, Parker, Basile, Galanda, Siskauskas, Jasikevicius who missed the last tournaments take part this time and are mostly better players than the ones missing this time (Vujcic, Udrih, Nachbar, Rakocevic, Krstic, Stojakovic, Tunceri, Radmanovic, Vasquez, Milic).

V@Roxe##13

06-28-2007, 10:07 PM

C-ka

06-29-2007, 12:11 PM

Not so bad:

Spain- fool squad
Greece- fool squad
Lithuania- preliminary almost fool squad
France- fool squad
Italy- fool squad
Turkey- fool squad
Serbia- strong squad in paper anyway
yeah, "not so bad"... only a eurobasket full of fool squads.. :D :rolleyes:

ArkadiosV2

06-29-2007, 12:21 PM

It's gonna be a very dumb Eurobasket it seems, with all these fools around...

LuDux

06-29-2007, 06:10 PM

Lithuania
Players invited for medical examination:
C Robertas Javtokas
CF Antanas Kavaliauskas
CF Darjusas Lavrinovicius
FC Ksistofas Lavrinovicius
PF Darius Songaila
PF Paulius Jankunas
SF Linas Kleiza
SF Jonas Maciulis
FG Simas Jasaitis
FG Ramunas Siskauskas
SG Renaldas Seibutis
SG Rimantas Kaukenas
SG Donatas Slanina
PG Giedrius Gustas
PG Sarunas Jasikevicius
(SG Arvydas Macijauskas)

pablonis

06-29-2007, 09:13 PM

Even with Macijauskas out, the roster looks like atleast a medal material. I just hope Gustas wont make it...
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Straight forward

06-29-2007, 09:19 PM

Even with Macijauskas out, the roster looks like atleast a medal material. I just hope Gustas wont make it...

wow, Gustas! I like his haircut and that's the most important thing :D

LuDux

06-29-2007, 09:26 PM

God forbid NT will have second PG!

ArkadiosV2

06-29-2007, 09:27 PM

I was hoping for Seibutins playing as a PG hehe

Straight forward

06-29-2007, 09:39 PM

God forbid NT will have second PG!

That's right. there is one and only pure PG after Jasikevicius :p

LuDux

06-29-2007, 09:42 PM

That's right. there is one and only pure PG after Jasikevicius :p

I see we both agree with Butautas decision:p

adovert

06-30-2007, 03:11 PM

Pepu Hernández Has Announced The List Of Selected Players To Play At Eurobasket 2007...

guards
Carlos Cabezas (unicaja Málaga)
Sergio Rodríguez (portland Trail Blazers)
José Manuel Calderón (toronto Raptors)
Juan Carlos Navarro (fc Barcelona)
Berni Rodríguez (unicaja Málaga)
forwards
Rudy Fernández (joventut Badalona)
álex Mumbrú (real Madrid)
Carlos Jiménez (unicaja Málaga)
Felipe Reyes (real Madrid)
Jorge Garbajosa (toronto Raptors)
centers
Pau Gasol (memphis Grizzlies)
Marc Gasol (akasvayu Girona)

reserves
Mario Fernández (gran Canaria)
Víctor Claver (pamesa Valencia)
Jordi Trias (fc Barcelona)

Incredible No Presence In List Of Raúl López (real Madrid) And Fran Vázquez (fc Barcelona).

In fact, the spanish list is an 11-players list that doesn't include Garbajosa. Garbajosa is an 'invited player' (not exactly reserve) like Mario Fernandez, Victor Claver and Jordi Trias. He will be in the team if he recovers of his injury but if he doesn't the 12th man can be one of the invited player or not (remember Marc Gasol was not between among the invited player before Fran Vazquez injury in last WC). IMHO, I think if Garbajosa can't play the EC (and this is a very possible case) the 12th man will be Fran Vazquez.

http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=40823

KWSN-Men

07-01-2007, 02:14 AM

I have seen a thread about different countries potential youth talents but with this track record I will abstain from writing down the youth talent in Sweden -atleast until after this summer when they have represented Sweden and the likelihood of them representing the country in the future is far greater.

And we have a big one, maybe (probably?) one of the biggest in Europe.

Big future? Can you please explain this? All the years I have been wathing basketball I don't remember one (1) Swedish basketball player I admired. And right now, nothing as well.

Maybe just wishful thinking on your part?

Billy

07-01-2007, 10:21 AM

Big future? Can you please explain this? All the years I have been wathing basketball I don't remember one (1) Swedish basketball player I admired. And right now, nothing as well.

Maybe just wishful thinking on your part?

Well, I actually wrote about it in this post (http://forums.interbasket.net/showpost.php?p=57790&postcount=54) on the 19th of May.

Besides, never heard of Maciej Lampe?

KWSN-Men

07-01-2007, 10:48 AM

Well, I actually wrote about it in this post (http://forums.interbasket.net/showpost.php?p=57790&postcount=54) on the 19th of May.

Besides, never heard of Maciej Lampe?

Wow, all those Swedish names make my head dizzy!:D

Any players that might actually play for Sweden?

You were debating about a Greek player (that is nothing special anyway) that lived for some years in Sweden where 'he learned to play basketball'. I should be nagging about Predrag Stojakovic, Marko Jaric and Milan Gurovic then, they spent their teens in Greece, they should be playing for Greece, right?

Plus, mentioning 15 year olds that might become good players is not a great future, sorry to inform you.

Oh and Maciej Lampe is Polish and nothing special as a player anyway.

Billy

07-01-2007, 11:19 AM

Wow, all those Swedish names make my head dizzy!:D

Baiting? Rascism? I dont understand this statement, care to clarify?

Any players that might actually play for Sweden?

I fail to understand this question. Are you trying to bait me?
All players posted in the prospect list has played for Sweden.

You were debating about a Greek player (that is nothing special anyway) that lived for some years in Sweden where 'he learned to play basketball'. I should be nagging about Predrag Stojakovic, Marko Jaric and Milan Gurovic then, they spent their teens in Greece, they should be playing for Greece, right?

You took that statement (about Charitoupoulos) out of context.

As for the players you mentioned above, if they received their basketball education in Greece and are Greek citizens, why not? Why did they choose to represent Serbia instead? Is that not a failure on Greeces part?

Plus, mentioning 15 year olds that might become good players is not a great future, sorry to inform you.

Well, that was what the thread was about, now was it not?

Oh and Maciej Lampe is Polish and nothing special as a player anyway.

For the first part of your sentence: Lampe is Polish and Swedish. He has played for Sweden before he choose to represent Poland. A huge failure on Swedens part.

As for the second part of your statement: that is your OPINION so dont try to portray it as a fact as I (and I believe quite a few others)belive its far from it, furthermore, I think your opinion speaks for itself.

a-Ha

07-01-2007, 06:02 PM

Picek

07-01-2007, 06:34 PM

Grafs is playing in "ASK", Bērziņš & Skirmants - in "Barons"
so, no Štelmahers afterall?

LuDux

07-01-2007, 06:39 PM

so, no Štelmahers afterall?

He retired from NT 1-2 seasons ago. Also his form this year was terrible

Picek

07-02-2007, 09:04 AM

He retired from NT 1-2 seasons ago. Also his form this year was terrible
I know he retired, he didn't play last year's qualies..
but there were some talks that he could maybe come back..

Joško Poljak Fan

07-02-2007, 09:41 AM

Gurović is in the team Serbia, said he'll play because of the nation.

Manu Ginobili

07-02-2007, 09:48 AM

What the hell??:confused: Gurovic will be Serbia's captain...

elaj

07-02-2007, 09:57 AM

This may turn into total success or total disaster for Serbia.

07-02-2007, 10:31 AM

This may turn into total success or total disaster for Serbia.

total failure if you ask me:D

V@Roxe##13

07-02-2007, 11:25 AM

total failure if you ask me:D
I have the same opinion.

Now for Greece,tomorrow Yannakis will announce the roster. I am sure about 14-15 players,but i doubt if Printezis,Vasileiadis,Perperoglou,Pelekanos and Vougioukas will be in the roster. Of course none of them is going to make it to the final roster,but who knows...

07-02-2007, 12:16 PM

I have the same opinion.

Now for Greece,tomorrow Yannakis will announce the roster. I am sure about 14-15 players,but i doubt if Printezis,Vasileiadis,Perperoglou,Pelekanos and Vougioukas will be in the roster. Of course none of them is going to make it to the final roster,but who knows...

these players are top young talents.if they found a decent euroleague team to play they will develope their game a lot and they are going to have many chances in the future for the Greek NT.They just have to be patient because more exprerience players there are in the NT roster now.

Picek

07-02-2007, 12:40 PM

This may turn into total success or total disaster for Serbia.
Bojan Popović and Milos Vujanić won't be participating on EC..
Slavnić decided that he doesn't need Popović :rolleyes:
and Vujanić asked to start with the preparations in august ..

rikhardur

07-02-2007, 07:20 PM

Gurović is in the team Serbia, said he'll play because of the nation.
Very bad decision... I predict the worse. I mean, he could return to the NT, but as captain? o_O Hopefully I and others here will be wrong.

rchos7

07-03-2007, 08:30 AM

today yiannakis will anounce the 18 players that will take part in the preparation for greece!

ArkadiosV2

07-03-2007, 09:11 AM

today yiannakis will anounce the 18 players that will take part in the preparation for greece!

What time? Will there be a press conference or will it be just announced through faxes or Greek Bball Federation site?

Toxicity

07-03-2007, 03:53 PM

Today Coach Recalcati has announced his 18-men roster (and 6 reserves) for the upcoming European Championships:

Candidates list:

Bargnani Andrea (1985, 7-0, PF/C, Toronto Raptors)
Basile Gianluca (1975, 6-3, SG, Winterthur Barcelona)
Belinelli Marco (1986, 6-6, SG, Golden State Warriors)
Bulleri Massimo (1977, 6-2, PG, Armani Jeans Milano)
Crosariol Andrea (1984, 7-0, C, Vidivici Bologna)
Di Bella Fabio (1978, PG, 6-2, Vidivici Bologna)
Galanda Giacomo (1975, 6-11, PF/C, Whirlpool Varese)
Gallinari Danilo (1988, 6-9, SF, Armani Jeans Milano)
Gigli Angelo (1983, 6-10, PF/C, Benetton Treviso)
Hackett Daniel (1987, 6-6, PG/SG, USC Trojans University)
Mancinelli Stefano (1983, 6-8, SF, Climamio Bologna)
Marconato Denis (1975, 6-11, C, Winterthur Barcelona)
Maresca Giuliano (1981, 6-4, PG/SG, Premiata Montegranaro)
Mordente Marco (1979, 6-4, SG/PG, Benetton Treviso)
Ress Tomas (1980, 6-10, PF/C, Climamio Bologna)
Rocca Mason (1977, 6-8, PF/C, Eldo Napoli)
Soragna Matteo (1975, 6-6, SF/SG, Benetton Treviso)
Vitali Luca (1986, 6-7, PG/SG, Premiata Montegranaro)

Reserves:
Blizzard Brett (1980, 6-3, SG/PG, Vidivici Bologna)
Cavaliero Daniele (1984, 6-2, PG, Climamio Bologna)
Fantoni Tommaso (1985, 6-8, SF/PF, Benetton Treviso)
Garri Luca (1982, 6-10, PF/C, Lottomatica Roma)
Giachetti Jacopo (1983, 6-3, PG, Lottomatica Roma)
Pecile Andrea (1980, 6-2, PG, Granada)
Righetti Alex (1977, 6-7, SF/SG, Lottomatica Roma)

ziv

07-03-2007, 04:32 PM

kinda sad that the siena, the champion, has no player in the NT. well, stonerook could have been invited. it sad both for the team (who had a nice youth team as i recall) and for the NT.

Toxicity

07-03-2007, 04:42 PM

kinda sad that the siena, the champion, has no player in the NT. well, stonerook could have been invited. it sad both for the team (who had a nice youth team as i recall) and for the NT.

Agree. Siena is full of foreigners... the few italians play few minutes, sad. They have 2 good prospects in Datome and Lechtaler but the coach (even if he came from the Siena youth team) doesn't allow them to play... i hope next year they'll both go on loan in smaller teams in italian 1st league.

Regarding Stonerook, i like him very much but the rule allows just one naturalized so the spot goes to Mason Rocca (hard worker, rebounder, great attitude, etc).

ArkadiosV2

07-03-2007, 05:16 PM

Greek NT selection will be announced tomorrow at noon as it was cancelled today.

Buducnost PG

07-03-2007, 06:34 PM

Agree. Siena is full of foreigners... the few italians play few minutes, sad. They have 2 good prospects in Datome and Lechtaler but the coach (even if he came from the Siena youth team) doesn't allow them to play... i hope next year they'll both go on loan in smaller teams in italian 1st league.

Regarding Stonerook, i like him very much but the rule allows just one naturalized so the spot goes to Mason Rocca (hard worker, rebounder, great attitude, etc).

Why Mason Rocca counts as naturalized player? He has italian roots or not? So that must mean that Kofous for example must be also naturalized player for Greece.

Or look at Turkey. They head at the EC2001 more then one naturaliezed player. Turkcan, Kuqo, Pars and Dal. Nobody of them was born in Turkey and nobody of them has turkish roots. It looks like the FIBA is allowing some teams more then the others.

ziv

07-03-2007, 07:31 PM

there's an age limit for the naturlization i think it's 18 but i'm not sure. if you got it before this limit you'd count as local.
anyway - the roots doesn't matter for fiba only for local naturelization rules (and it doesn't matter a bit in countries such as FYROM and BiH who appernatly got j.r. bremer naturlised too...).

Levenspiel

07-03-2007, 08:11 PM

Or look at Turkey. They head at the EC2001 more then one naturaliezed player. Turkcan, Kuqo, Pars and Dal. Nobody of them was born in Turkey and nobody of them has turkish roots. It looks like the FIBA is allowing some teams more then the others.
:confused:

Only Turkcan and Pars were on the roster. Neither Kuqo, nor Dal was.

jwfish6

07-04-2007, 02:24 AM

KokkinosVasilias

07-04-2007, 10:47 AM

the 18 of the Greece NT were announced

Diamantidis (PAO) G 1.96 80
Hatzivrettas (PAO) G 1.97 78
Dikoudis (PAO) F-C 2.06 78
Tsartsaris (PAO) F-C 2.09 79
Perperoglou (PAO) G-F 2.03 84
Vasilopoulos (Oly) F 2.03 84
Bourousis (Oly) C 2.11 83
Schortsianitis (Oly) C 2.06 85
Papamakarios (Oly) G 1.90 80
Papaloukas (CSKA?) G 2.00 77
Zisis (CSKA) G 1.97 83
Kakiouzis (Barcelona?) F 2.07 76
Papadopoulos (Real) C 2.10 80
Pelekanos (Real?) F 2.04 82
Glyniadakis (?) C 2.17 82
Vasileiadis (Malaga?) G-F 2.00 84
Fotsis (Dynamo) F 2.09 81
Spanoulis (Rockets?) G 1.93 83

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07-04-2007, 11:14 AM

ArkadiosV2

07-04-2007, 12:04 PM

I was surprised at Papamakarios and Vasiliadis calls. Their playing time this year was minimal.

Juan Carlos Nadal

07-04-2007, 12:16 PM

How about that Koufos kid? I had heard earlier in the year that he may be called in for the preliminary preselection. Or am I mistaken?

T.W.Is.M.

07-04-2007, 01:59 PM

Actually I'm surprised at Glyniadakis being called up and a little at Papamakarios, although he had a few good games at the playoffs and proved he deserved more time.Koufos was reported 2 b called 2 the U20 squad, not at the first team.

Picek

07-04-2007, 02:15 PM

Slavnic made the right move getting rid of Popovic and Vujanic. They are too average for this team. We have Jaric and Rasic who are both stars and Teodosic who is future star. Very impressive 18 man roster and he did what every other coach was afraid to do: keep the youth.yeah right :D
Jarić is a real star..
especially with the season he had..
Tepić had a horrible season in Partizan, Velickovic didn't play on euroleague level, Aleksandrov who missed almost two seasons etc. etc.
this team won't be a whole lot better then the team from last WC..
I predict they'll be even worse..
they are just lucky enough that there won't be a nigerian team on EC :D
seriously, this team will be lost..everything will be put in hands of Milan Gurović and Zvezda played poorly when everything was up to him...

Im still confused as to why Aleksandrov wont be on the u20 NT roster though..because U20 NT coach let him go to play for the senior team or should I say prepare with the senior team

Buducnost PG

07-04-2007, 03:09 PM

Slavnic made the right move getting rid of Popovic and Vujanic. They are too average for this team. We have Jaric and Rasic who are both stars and Teodosic who is future star. Very impressive 18 man roster and he did what every other coach was afraid to do: keep the youth.

He said 4 1987 players and 1 1988 players were :the best Serbia has to offer.

Im still confused as to why Aleksandrov wont be on the u20 NT roster though..

Yes very impressive.:rolleyes: To call up Markovic and Radivojevic and leave out Marinovic for example is a shame. Also Misanovic is a joke. Perovic will be also out and perhaps Tripkovic, too. Now the backup Center will be Misanovic.:D Pavlovic is still unsure.

And now tell me what is impressive on this roster and most of the players? The most of them are still not ready. For example Markovic and Aleksandrov. Velickovic is a fighter and a player who is giving everything on the court, but still very limited. Not NT potenial. And Radivojevic and Misanovic are weak, very weak.

Slavnic let some players out, because he said they are to old with 23. And leave also a player like Askrabic out, who is in his best age.

I am looking forward to see how he will leave out Rasic and Teodosic and put in Radivojevic.

damelo

07-04-2007, 03:43 PM

With the rosters announced or expected, do youy give any chance to France to progress in the hierarchy (which means at least 2nd place)?

For me, the team is better than the one in Japan (5th overall, 3rd European), but I think we will stille miss some balance in offense to beat a complete Spain or Greece. The danger will come from Lithuania with Saras and Z, and for sure from Germany. And not counting here with many good teams, that I think, are not talented enough to beat France, which defense is one of the best in the world. The main question is: Are Morandais and Ferchaud good enough at shootig to allow us to shoot more than 20% and get more space for Parker, Diaw, etc...?

ziv

07-04-2007, 07:22 PM

jwfish6

07-04-2007, 07:50 PM

pablonis

07-04-2007, 08:25 PM

With the rosters announced or expected, do youy give any chance to France to progress in the hierarchy (which means at least 2nd place)?

...The danger will come from Lithuania with Saras and Z...

Z's out, but he surely is not as big of a loss as Saras would be. Although having a very talented 221cm guy would be a major boost, he's still not irreplassible, as even without him our frontline will be among the two best ones - definetly the most versatile one.

As for your question - I've never doubted France's abilities and i do consider them as beeing one of the 4 teams together with Spain, Lithuania and Greece, having the most chanses of winning it all at the end. Though it's a mistake to put all your game mostly only on defence, especially when facing a complete offensive teams such as Lithuania is, and if France doesn't find real solutions, it may hurt their chances compared to rest 3 teams at the final stages.

Also, must say that overestimation of Germany is becoming ridiculous. Yes, Dirk is a big threat, but he's more than stopable (as it was prooven many times already) and beside Dirk, Germany is on the level of Latvia, only without here and then sometimes apearing crazy shooting abilities...
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Joško Poljak Fan

07-04-2007, 09:43 PM

Yes Radivojevic and Misanovic are both a joke. Neither should be there and either will Perovic now. But their are very solid guardsm in Jaric and Rasic. You cannot argue that. Yes Marinovic and Popovic are good, but its like neither of the 2 are that much better than the other 2, and if you had to pick 2 of the 4 I dont see how you couldn't go with Jaric and Rasic.
I think you are getting to biased based on player's NBA potential. Rašić might be few times better in terms of NBA potential than Marinović and Popović as far as I am concerned, but right now, it's flat out clear Marinović and Popović come in front of him and it is most definately easy to argue with that. Don't use NBA draft sites to evaluate national teams...

Their are also good shooters in Pavlovic, Cvetkovic and Tripkovic. Then their are solid post players Erceg and Milicic, all along with Gurovic's scoring. Noone is talking about Tepic's bad sason, Velickovic's limited ability, or Aleksandrov's rehab because these players are on the list, but are obviously not going to play an important role. If these are you 10, 11, and 12 players does it really matter? And by the way Tepic did not have that bad of a season.
Tepić probably wasn't in Vujošević's plans to burt out this season, but players you're talking about are 20-21-22 years old... it's not hard to incorporate 2-3 youngsters into a well oiled up rotation like some nations were/are doing. But Serbia looks like will bring only Jarić, Pavlović (?) and Gurović from the highest level, while the rest of the players should learn?! no diss to those 3, but I don't think they can carry the burdeon if they'll be surrounded with youngsters. This isn't U20, it's national teams at full strenght we're talking about.
I wouldn't mind to be wrong here, but I don't think that's likely to happen.

Mišanović? Varda can kill him even at watepolo, let alone bball...

ArkadiosV2

07-04-2007, 10:02 PM

as for greece.
bourosis was in serbia, sofo was big in japan. i guess once again only one of them will join the team. i'd go with bourosis (both i think he should and think he would). what do you think?

I'd say since there are not THAT strong opponents like USA in the WC where a 'nuclear weapon' like Sofo was needed to show up for 15 minutes and make the difference i'd go for a fully fit and ready anytime 12 men squad.
So Bouroussis for me, who could help with the rebounding problem Greece is having sometimes.

I also have serious doubts about Dikoudis' place.

rchos7

07-04-2007, 10:09 PM

I'd say since there are not THAT strong opponents like USA in the WC where a 'nuclear weapon' like Sofo was needed to show up for 15 minutes and make the difference i'd go for a fully fit and ready anytime 12 men squad.
So Bouroussis for me, who could help with the rebounding problem Greece is having sometimes.

I also have serious doubts about Dikoudis' place.

i agree 100% with arkadios!both for bourousis instead of sofo and for dikoudis.

jwfish6

07-05-2007, 04:52 AM

I think you are getting to biased based on player's NBA potential.

This isn't U20, it's national teams at full strenght we're talking about.
I wouldn't mind to be wrong here, but I don't think that's likely to happen.

Mišanović? Varda can kill him even at watepolo, let alone bball...

Thats probably true, its hard for a young American to look past "potential". No, this is not u20, but when you have the combination of veterans and leaders dropping out on their country and quiting their NT, and you have a youth generation who has been so productive, it seems like you have to give them a chance. They've won at every youth level, so in due time they will surely win at the next level.

jwfish6

07-05-2007, 04:59 AM

Mišanović? Varda can kill him even at watepolo, let alone bball...

I can think of about 10-15 better centers than him:

Varda, Lekic, Rakovic, Ilic, Golubovic, Vukosalvjevic, Raduljica, Stimac..

Hell, I would rather have the powerful Milan Macvan than Misanovic, surely he would be more productive. If nonetheless Macvan would have put up better numbers than 4 points a game for Red Star.

Why is Rakovic not with the NT?

Picek

07-05-2007, 05:58 AM

Why is Rakovic not with the NT?you mean the kid who was selected last at this years draft?
the boys didn't even play serious bball in his career.. why would he be there?

Picek

07-05-2007, 07:44 AM

Repeša cut Vladovic and Pasalic from the list and after three official cancellations (we are still waiting for Giricek) this is our current list of 19 players (including Giricek):

Roko Leni Ukic
Davor Kus
Zoran Planinic
Marko Popovic
Gordan Giricek
Marino Bazdaric
Marin Rozic
Branimir Longin
Mario Stojic
Damir Miljkovic
Damir Markota
Marko Tomas
Marko Banic
Luksa Andric
Nikola Prkacin
Stanko Barac
Mario Kasun
Jure Lalic
Ante Tomic

I'm almost 100% sure that Ukic, Kus, Planinic, Popovic, Tomas, Kasun will go to Spain, only injury (God forbid) can stop them from going to Spain.
so Repesa will have to find another six players to go along with them..
I'm quite sure Tomic won't be among them, he is on the list just to gather some experience but he is still to weak to be in Spain..
and I'm also sure Miljkovic won't be there...
if Giriček says yes afterall his place is also sure..
so 5 players to add to the list and 10 to choose from the list:
Marino Bazdaric
Marin Rozic
Branimir Longin
Mario Stojic
Damir Markota
Marko Banic
Luksa Andric
Nikola Prkacin
Stanko Barac
Jure Lalic

it will be interesting to see who will be the other 5 players (or six in case Giricek saying no)..

Joško Poljak Fan

07-05-2007, 08:04 AM

damelo

07-05-2007, 10:08 AM

Z's out.

Though it's a mistake to put all your game mostly only on defence, especially when facing a complete offensive teams such as Lithuania is, and if France doesn't find real solutions, it may hurt their chances compared to rest 3 teams at the final stages.

beside Dirk, Germany is on the level of Latvia, only without here and then sometimes apearing crazy shooting abilities...

Well, I didn't know Z is out, I thought he was to go with Saras...

Well, about France and defense, I guess it's not really a choice... The matter is we have very few regular shooters, and if Parker is getting pretty good at 5-6 metters, the others NBA guys are poor shooters, not good enough to extend the defense. They can come hot one day, but not every day. And if we are good about defense it's that we are the most athletic team in the world I think. French NT must be more athletic than the Spurs... And the Spurs are the best team in the world. We are too athletic.

For Germany, I agree totally with you. The fact is they have Dirk, so they can go to the podium, not win it all.

damelo

07-05-2007, 10:09 AM

DanMajerle

07-05-2007, 10:21 AM

Greece has Dikoudis, Tsatarsis, Fotsis, so they need a different kind of player and that Sofo. What would be the sense to have another player who can shoot,?

ziv

07-05-2007, 01:06 PM

Buducnost PG

07-05-2007, 08:42 PM

PG: Ukić, Popović
SG: Planinić, Kus, Baždarić/Stojić
SF: Giriček, Tomas
PF: Prkačin, Banić
C: Kasun, Andrić/Lalić

afterall this NT wouldn't be all that bad. Of course Vujćić would be missed a lot, PF/C's lack depth, but backcourt seems right on the level.

Kasun and Andric would have 5th fouls both after 15 minuets of play.:D Lalic is not a center. He is more a PF which loves to take 3-pointers. Barac is better then both Andric and Lalic. He woudl be the best solution in my opinion with Kasun at Center.

Roy M

07-05-2007, 08:50 PM

regarding croatia - it's not the strongest consideration but i'd like to see players who played in the acb last year being picked. i'm refering specificly to players such as stojic and bazdaric who had a good season (both of them). it's good from the players and the fans perspective though not necserly for the NT.

I want to see Jura Lalic. he looks great potential.

Israel, BTW, with a huge problem to "the last chance tournament".
Many players are injured and try to avoid from the team.
Burstein, Sashon, Eliyahu, Arnold, Ohanon, Katz and tapiro, all will miss the first trainings and doubt to the tournament.

Buducnost PG

07-05-2007, 08:59 PM

Thats probably true, its hard for a young American to look past "potential". No, this is not u20, but when you have the combination of veterans and leaders dropping out on their country and quiting their NT, and you have a youth generation who has been so productive, it seems like you have to give them a chance. They've won at every youth level, so in due time they will surely win at the next level.

That can happen, but must not. The problem of serbian basketball in the last time is that to many players get lost when they must transfer their game to the seniorlevel. And this players will have a hard time. Young players have to learn from older players in the NT. But in the Serbian NT they have to learn by themself. There is nobody who could help them. The guards could learn something from Jaric. From Gurovic they can only learn how to split on refs. It is a big shame that such an idiot is the captain of the team. And Milicic and Pavlovic are both young and still have to learn a lot. And the case with Pavlovic is still unsure as the with Tripkovic.

Big problem in serbian basketball is that the players go to diffrent european teams early and that we not have a core of some important players in a serbian team which play togehter for a long time. The players are not in contact as it was when Divac, Djordjevic and Bodiroga played. Divac, Paspalj, Danilovic and Djordjevic played all togther in Partizan and did also a lot of things outside the court togehter and everybody of them was ready to die for each other on the court.

Now our players are not playing, because they will not. Yes the NT is not so interesting as some years before. But Perovic will not play, because the Warriors said it to him. Erceg mostlikely will sign contract with Barcelona and i am sure they asked him to rest this summer and not get injured. If Serbia have a Club with a good budget then Erceg would sign for them as a lot of greeks players sign for PAO and Oly. And a serbian club would never ask a serbian player to stay away from the serbian NT.

Joško Poljak Fan

07-05-2007, 09:51 PM

Kasun and Andric would have 5th fouls both after 15 minuets of play.:D Lalic is not a center. He is more a PF which loves to take 3-pointers. Barac is better then both Andric and Lalic. He woudl be the best solution in my opinion with Kasun at Center.
well, Andrić does have his foul moments- true, but he does have some bright moments, and i kind of like his game... he is not on the level needed for NT though.
As for Barać I think he'd get broken on two halfs when facing a normal center. This isn't Široki. Same goes for Tomić.

That can happen, but must not. The problem of serbian basketball in the last time is that to many players get lost when they must transfer their game to the seniorlevel. And this players will have a hard time. Young players have to learn from older players in the NT. But in the Serbian NT they have to learn by themself. There is nobody who could help them. The guards could learn something from Jaric. From Gurovic they can only learn how to split on refs. It is a big shame that such an idiot is the captain of the team. And Milicic and Pavlovic are both young and still have to learn a lot. And the case with Pavlovic is still unsure as the with Tripkovic.
agreed, young players need veterans to learn from either in their clubs or in national team... that's easier than learning it all by themselves. And the jump from adriatic league level to a big european team is too big and most players do get lost there.

jwfish6

07-05-2007, 10:36 PM

That can happen, but must not. The problem of serbian basketball in the last time is that to many players get lost when they must transfer their game to the seniorlevel. And this players will have a hard time. Young players have to learn from older players in the NT. But in the Serbian NT they have to learn by themself. There is nobody who could help them. The guards could learn something from Jaric. From Gurovic they can only learn how to split on refs. It is a big shame that such an idiot is the captain of the team. And Milicic and Pavlovic are both young and still have to learn a lot. And the case with Pavlovic is still unsure as the with Tripkovic.

Big problem in serbian basketball is that the players go to diffrent european teams early and that we not have a core of some important players in a serbian team which play togehter for a long time. The players are not in contact as it was when Divac, Djordjevic and Bodiroga played. Divac, Paspalj, Danilovic and Djordjevic played all togther in Partizan and did also a lot of things outside the court togehter and everybody of them was ready to die for each other on the court.

Now our players are not playing, because they will not. Yes the NT is not so interesting as some years before. But Perovic will not play, because the Warriors said it to him. Erceg mostlikely will sign contract with Barcelona and i am sure they asked him to rest this summer and not get injured. If Serbia have a Club with a good budget then Erceg would sign for them as a lot of greeks players sign for PAO and Oly. And a serbian club would never ask a serbian player to stay away from the serbian NT.

Interesting. Erceg should play summer league with an NBA team and see what happens he could get signed. I also heard Tripkovic was probably out. That would cut the preliminary squad to 15.

Buducnost PG

07-05-2007, 11:20 PM

Slavnic said that Erceg will play and also that Pavlovic will play. He said that Erceg needs one week to get healthy. He also said that he will invite a new center to the squad as replacement for Kosta Perovic. It will be a player outside Serbia.

Srle

07-07-2007, 04:47 PM

So we can excpect Varda or Stanojevic.

Picek

07-07-2007, 05:01 PM

Pavlović confirmed his choice..
he'll definitely play for Serbia..
but from what i've read he still didn't confirm he will play for Serbia on this competition..

Toxicity

07-07-2007, 07:19 PM

For our lithuanian friends, in case you missed it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypvX5xD0klM

What a memories... :p

pablonis

07-07-2007, 08:10 PM

leave your memories to yourself if you cherish your life... :D
________
Vaporizer pipe (http://vaporizers.net/vapor-genie)

Picek

07-08-2007, 06:30 AM

Pavlović confirmed his choice..
he'll definitely play for Serbia..
but from what i've read he still didn't confirm he will play for Serbia on this competition..
according to some of Montenegrin newspapers Pavlović won't play for Serbia on the upcoming EC..

jwfish6

07-08-2007, 08:00 PM

If Pavlovic does not play then we are screwed. I almost dont even know what to think now. Atleast we'll get to see some entertaining kids.

re5pectas

07-09-2007, 08:38 AM

For our lithuanian friends, in case you missed it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypvX5xD0klM

What a memories... :p
as song says - that was the best days of your life... (or smth like this :D )
I didin't knew italian fans also can make mixes :D:D:D

jesquique

07-09-2007, 08:57 AM

So we can excpect Varda or Stanojevic.

VARDA is trying to heal his knee injury.
he won´t play till October at least.
i´d like that he continues in Real Madrid.
he tried to play in Washington but he hasn´t played with Serbia National Team although he made good seasons in Turkey.
what about his character?
do you know something else?
i thing he is one of the best 5 pivots in Europe, even better than Felipe Reyes ( i don´t like his skill, he is a medium player and a short pivot).
i am hoping he keeps fit again and show his skill to everybody.

I watched good matches of Stanojevic in Berlin, but ( at the same as VARDA) he has not played with Serbia in last 5 years.
i am telling you that because each time i watched OSTOJIC, TOMASEVIC and DROBJNAK playing with SERbia shirt, i felt shame and nostalgia abot DIVAC, SAVIC, PASPALJ,etc.
These last 3 pivot has been the worse serbian players of the history of your basket. they has been the reason why SPAIN has won the last matches.
although i am spanish, i admire SERBIA because you never needed foreigh players to improve artificially the level of your national league.
what about ALEXSANDAR RADOJEVIC, 2,21 M PIVOT WHO PLAYED IN UTAH JAZZ?
MARINOVIC has been the worse guard too. don´t you think?
now you are spending bad times, with poor players and great playerS who refuse to play.
I HOPE this ends soon and playing with your national shirt be a pride again.
it´s something similar to CROATIA, RUSIA AND SLOVENIA.
Greetings from Spain

Joško Poljak Fan

07-09-2007, 09:04 AM

have to dissagree on Russia!? when was the last time they suffered playing with 2nd overall team, like the balkan NT's do nowadays...

rikhardur

07-09-2007, 07:27 PM

Erceg Will Play For Serbia, Club Says

09.07.2007
By Darko Nikolic, PA Sport

Zoran Erceg's club side, FMP, have released a statement announcing the player does not need an operation to have his tonsils removed and will be able to play with Serbia's national team at the EuroBasket.

Erceg infuriated Serbia's basketball bosses when he said of the surgery: "If I don't do this now, my condition will get worse. I have to take a break of one month."

But a statement released by the club on Monday read: "Basketball club FMP announces that after talks within the club and additional medical tests, it is concluded that Zoran Erceg will participate at the trainings of the Serbian national team which will start on July 19.

"Specialist's tests have shown that Zoran Erceg has problems with a nose deviation and that, at this moment, there is no need for him to have surgery."

FMP have warned Erceg they will punish him if he doesn't show up at the national team training camp on time.

The club believe Erceg has received poor guidance by the management agency that looks after him.

"The agency I'm talking about took Erceg to the USA recently, to pre-draft camps, and results of their work was, can I say, 'problematic'," said FMP president Nebojsa Chovic.

"He was taken there, instead of taking care of his health."
http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_5T-OsZhsGKM7DWv0U0v121.articleMode_on.html

Now that's a novelty, a club punishing a player if he doesn't join the NT :p

Toxicity

07-09-2007, 08:56 PM

http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_5T-OsZhsGKM7DWv0U0v121.articleMode_on.html

Now that's a novelty, a club punishing a player if he doesn't join the NT :p

Nice idea! A healthy player should always play for his national team, especially a youngster who has never played for the senior NT... but i wonder what kind of punishment they're thinking...

rikhardur

07-09-2007, 08:58 PM

but i wonder what kind of punishment they're thinking...
Perhaps a fine or something, I seriously doubt they'd go further, they need him after all.

Picek

07-10-2007, 06:58 AM

Perhaps a fine or something, I seriously doubt they'd go further, they need him after all.
the only reason why the club wants him to play for their NT is his price..
apparently FMP received quite a big offer for Erceg but ofcourse if he plays for Serbian NT on EC that offer could be even bigger..

Toxicity

07-10-2007, 12:40 PM

Tomas Ress won't join the Italian National at Bormio due to personal reasons (his wife is expecting a baby).

The substitute in the 18-men roster is Benetton Treviso's Tommaso Fantoni (6-8, PF/SF, 1985).

I doubt he'll make the final team but he has a lot of energy, athleticism, and may rise the training intensity. A good experience for him too..

T.W.Is.M.

07-10-2007, 03:02 PM

VARDA is trying to heal his knee injury.
he won´t play till October at least.
i´d like that he continues in Real Madrid.
he tried to play in Washington but he hasn´t played with Serbia National Team although he made good seasons in Turkey.
what about his character?
do you know something else?
i thing he is one of the best 5 pivots in Europe, even better than Felipe Reyes ( i don´t like his skill, he is a medium player and a short pivot).
i am hoping he keeps fit again and show his skill to everybody.

I watched good matches of Stanojevic in Berlin, but ( at the same as VARDA) he has not played with Serbia in last 5 years.
i am telling you that because each time i watched OSTOJIC, TOMASEVIC and DROBJNAK playing with SERbia shirt, i felt shame and nostalgia abot DIVAC, SAVIC, PASPALJ,etc.
These last 3 pivot has been the worse serbian players of the history of your basket. they has been the reason why SPAIN has won the last matches.
although i am spanish, i admire SERBIA because you never needed foreigh players to improve artificially the level of your national league.
what about ALEXSANDAR RADOJEVIC, 2,21 M PIVOT WHO PLAYED IN UTAH JAZZ?
MARINOVIC has been the worse guard too. don´t you think?
now you are spending bad times, with poor players and great playerS who refuse to play.
I HOPE this ends soon and playing with your national shirt be a pride again.
it´s something similar to CROATIA, RUSIA AND SLOVENIA.
Greetings from Spain

Although I'm not Serbian I have seen many Serbian players in Greece and I have an opinion about them.I don't think Varda is sth special.He used 2 play 4 Apollon in Greece 2 or 3 years ago without being exceptionally good(he was a good player 4 a lowly team like Apollon).I don't know though how much he has improved.Personally I consider Felipe Reyes better but u have seen both of them more lately and u might know better.
I also disagree about Tomasevic.His disadvantage is probably that he could b a great supplementary player and not a star as he was expected 2.This season he was very good with PAO even though he is 34.The problem was probably bad timing;he didn't play an active role when the big players like Divac and Savic were in the team.I agree with u though that he didn't help much the Serbian NT.
Drobnjak sucked with the NT;that's no news.But he came back quite improved this season and it makes me think that he may have a few good years ahead.Ostojic is indeed a mediocre player who has no comparison with Savic or Rebraca 4 example.
I can tellu also about Aleksandar Radojevic.He has a big advantage:his height.He also has a big disadvantage:he has no other skill than his height!Ostojic is clearly better!Even Savo Djikanovic (used 2 play 4 Hemofarm and spent last season with Olympia Larissa-7th in greek A1) is obviously better).
I also agree that traditional countries like Serbia, Croatia and Lithuania shouldn't play with 2nd & 3rd choices.They r really talented and ECs miss sth when these teams r not strong as in the past.

DanMajerle

07-13-2007, 08:48 PM

Dirk's getting that Gasol beard:D :

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k52/rjmavs/FOM.jpg

rikhardur

07-13-2007, 08:59 PM

Dirk's getting that Gasol beard:D :

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k52/rjmavs/FOM.jpg
Haha I'd say that it's more Nocionish :p
He doesn't look good with that beard, I think he should stick to the goatee or nothing at all.

DanMajerle

07-13-2007, 09:21 PM

Really?:D

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/cns187/64396933.jpg

Zalgirinis

07-14-2007, 09:03 AM

Really?:D

Ah, the classic :D

elaj

07-14-2007, 08:09 PM

Sani Bečirovič today announced that he will not play for Slovenia at Eurobasket 2007. He stated that pain in his knees hurts him too much and that he most likely wouldn't be able to play. He also said he has been taking painkillers and injections with painkillers whole season long and he can't even be without them during his private life. He said simply his knees need to rest during the summer.

I understand him... knee injuries are hell, believe me.

Joško Poljak Fan

07-14-2007, 09:25 PM

nikefalin

07-14-2007, 10:04 PM

I know how it looks not to be able to freaking walk without a pain in the knees, I can understand him, but i'm still dissapointed. :(

one less after Beno Udrih..who is going to be the PG ? Jaka only ? in this case i should simply say "srecno"

Joško Poljak Fan

07-14-2007, 11:38 PM

one less after Beno Udrih..who is going to be the PG ? Jaka only ? in this case i should simply say "srecno"
I hope Čapin won't be the case here.
If some other NT's manage to incorporate their youngsters into senior NT succesfully, it must be our turn now. Dragič (PG, 86'), Klobučar (SG 87') and Preldžič (SF 87') know how to play good defense and that's all I want... offense comes along.
Team won't be as loaded as in last few years, but i actually like that, hopefully it'll give some individuals more chances to shine than.
...and anyway Slovenian NT can't exactly reach lower places than it did before with much more talented version of NT- so this year at least there will be no dissapointment :p ... and that's something new if you're a slovenian fan...

Picek

07-15-2007, 11:19 AM

will Pipan call some of the "kids" from the U-20 team?

elaj

07-15-2007, 11:23 AM

will Pipan call some of the "kids" from the U-20 team?
He called Klobučar (SG/SF, 1987), Preldžić (SF, 1987) and Vidmar (PF/C, 1987)

T.W.Is.M.

07-15-2007, 03:11 PM

Bad news 4 Slovenia, it weakens even more their team after the rest of their losses.I wonder whether we r gonna have more absences until preparations of the NTs start.The worst thing is that most of the absences come from the former yugoslavian countries.Allo f them could come with young talented teams with potential that could reach high places, but now things have become difficult 4 them.

Turkish Airlines Euroleague

07-17-2007, 12:15 PM

Pau Gasol will play for Spanish National Team in Eurobasket 2007 ? :confused:

V@Roxe##13

07-17-2007, 12:41 PM

Pau Gasol will play for Spanish National Team in Eurobasket 2007 ? :confused:
Yes...

Toxicity

07-19-2007, 04:03 PM

Yesterday there was the official presentation of the Italian NT in Milan (today the preparation begins, in Bormio).

Some pics:

http://www.gazzetta.it/Hermes%20Foto/2007/07/18/0JLDV16A--346x212.jpg

http://213.215.221.46/%5Cdownload%5Cgalleriaimg%5CThumb_300x300%5CBELINE LLI033.jpg

http://213.215.221.46/%5Cdownload%5Cgalleriaimg%5CThumb_300x300%5CBARGNA NI0095.jpg

http://213.215.221.46/%5Cdownload%5Cgalleriaimg%5CThumb_300x300%5Cbargna ni1638.jpg

http://213.215.221.46/%5Cdownload%5Cgalleriaimg%5CThumb_300x300%5Cgallin ari9388.jpg

http://213.215.221.46/%5Cdownload%5Cgalleriaimg%5CThumb_300x300%5CITALIA 034.jpg

http://213.215.221.46/%5Cdownload%5Cgalleriaimg%5CThumb_300x300%5Cmancin elli9459.jpg

I can't wait... :cool:

jwfish6

07-19-2007, 06:12 PM

Bellineli did waste anytime did he...i like the looks of their sr. nt...datome should be their though..

pablonis

07-19-2007, 08:28 PM

Lithuania. Oficially the preparation started last weekend on 15th of July, but 6 players arrived a week earlier. some guys are still missing - Saras was supposed to join today but had some problems with american migration department or smth, thus he'll join at the begining of next week together with Kaukenas, Siskauskas and Kavaliauskas who were given longer holidays because of the long seasons they had.

some pictures: (c)Krepsinis.net

http://www.krepsinis.net/galleries/74/stadionas_kleiza_ir_broliai.jpg

http://www.krepsinis.net/galleries/74/maciulis_reakcija.jpg

http://www.krepsinis.net/galleries/74/rinktine_begioja.jpg

http://www.krepsinis.net/galleries/77/songaila_bega.jpg

http://www.krepsinis.net/galleries/75/jasaitis_ir_javtokas.jpg

with future stars
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jwfish6

07-19-2007, 09:01 PM

What are the early thoughts about the Serbian NT? The loss of Tripkovic sounds like a joke. I hear he has a groin injury but the line of " Tripkovic had an MRI scan on his groin injury which showed a severe enough problem to rule him out for a minimum of three weeks" cqn summarize this summer for Serbiq. Players who are lucky to even be called to the NT are declining. Is this a joke? Perovic? Erceg? Tripkovic? I ,ean these guys have already had a month of rest. You have guys like Tepic, Labovic and Teodosic who played just as many minutes this year as those guys and have already spent three weeks training with the u20 and they would die to play for their country. Tell me if Im wrong, but these 1987 born guys are of a different breed. They are like the old legendary generations who would represent their country no matter what. Whether people think guys like Labovic are worthy or whether Tepic had a bad year this season are not, serbia should win or lose with tho will do anything to fight for them. In fact, these guys dont even have a guarenteed spot so they arnt going in to camp to loaf through, they are doing everything in their power just to make the team;

A groin injury? teeth surgery? would that of ever of stopped divac from representing yugoslavia? what about malone or stockten from the jazz? those guys played 20 yrs and barely missed 1 game. do these guys think those guys never had a little groin pain or some tooth ake? those guys should be banned. screw them. keep krstic, milicic pavlovic and bring the 87 88 and the rest of the youth and lets win or lose with them.

so this is the final squad, no more call ups. i would think raduljica would have gotten called along with markovic, atleast for trainings

i like :

jaric, teodosic
rasic, cvetkovic, tepic
pavlovic, velikovic
erceg, aleksdrov, labovic
milicic, ilic

sounds like a step in the right direction

Toxicity

07-20-2007, 10:28 AM

Bellineli did waste anytime did he...i like the looks of their sr. nt...datome should be their though..

Belinelli was there for the presentation but he has some days to rest after the SL (like Mancinelli). He'll join the team on 07/26.

Datome is not ready right now, and we're covered at 3 spot with Soragna, Gallinari and Mancinelli... his time will come, 2 years from now.

ArkadiosV2

07-21-2007, 12:22 AM

Manolis Papamakarios out of Greek NT preparation, Alexis Kiritsis in.
Sofoklis Schortsianitis might be out too, in that case Loukas Mavrokefalides will be called instead.

rikhardur

07-21-2007, 12:31 PM

Sofoklis Schortsianitis might be out too
He must be real bad then :/

kololoco

07-23-2007, 11:04 AM

What are the early thoughts about the Serbian NT?

Hi, I'm new to the forum and this is my first real post:) First of all I agree with everything that you said. But personally I am glad that all these players decided to ski the competition because this will give the young talents to get important roles in this years competition without any obligation towards a result and become accomodated to playing senior championships and from Chine 2008 or if we don't qualify Euro 2009 become main players. Perovic and Tripkovic are solid players but by no means great prospects. The first is too slow and the second is one-dimensional. If Teodosic, Erceg, Labovic, Aleksandrov, Tepic get 10-15 or more minuts I will consider this a succes. With Markovic, Macvan, Marjanovic, Dragovic, Jeremic coming next and Jaric, Milicic and Krstic as the "old guard" meaning experience in competitions I think this generation has a chance to go all the way already from the 2009-2010 championships. I am no longer cirtain in the Spanish rule of Europe in the next 5-7 years. And this years team I think can go into the top 7 with a strong first line up of Teodosic, Jaric, Gurovic, Erceg and Milicic, but the lack of depth will hurt us. Anyways I am very optimistic about the future of Serbian basketball, but the now is still to young or not good enough. My predictions are: 1. Spain, 2. Greece, 3. Italy, 4. Lithuania, 5. France, 6. Turkey, 7. Serbia

elaj

07-25-2007, 10:37 AM

Reflex

07-25-2007, 06:45 PM

Yep.. The situatian with Slovenia is catastrofic..
Two teams in this tournament will not show great results cause of thier players atitude and inwiligness to play for there country. Slovenia lost most of its talent and I do not see any prospects to this team to reach more than 7-8 place. Another country is Serbia.. There were times I have hated You guys :D You kicked our asses after that we kicked Yours but I remember how it was dramatic to watch our matchups when I was a kid.. And I really do think that whose times will come back soon. In this tournament I will chare for serbia and crotia and maybe next year when You put Your players together we will have a good match for a crown of basketball. :)

Joško Poljak Fan

07-25-2007, 07:05 PM

Another player rejected to join the NT. Željko Zagorac of Slovenian NT won't travel to China with the team, also he won't participate on EC. He just informed Basketball Federation that his new club Russian Lokomotiv Rostav asked him not to join the NT. This is not sad anymore, this is getting hilarious. :D
Federation and coach NT are obvioulsy pretty angry about it, this has to stop...

It's not the first time that clubs are not allowing slovenian players to play at international competitions, our NT was weakened because of that in the past as well, while I don't see many of such cases in some other NT's. Quite the opposite in fact.

Federation reportedly is considering some counter-measurements vs. player or his club, I hope they find a way for that through Uleb or Fiba...

Picek

07-25-2007, 08:01 PM

Federation reportedly is considering some counter-measurements vs. player or his club, I hope they find a way for that through Uleb or Fiba...I'm quite sure that ULEB will never do anything about it..
and FIBA is too weak to do anything about it..
so there is no hope.. :mad:

Fortitudo

08-01-2007, 08:01 AM

kecal

08-02-2007, 02:53 PM

France lost Tony Parker (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47429/20070802/parker_sprains_left_ankle_returns_to_us_for_exam/) temporarily... Sprained ankle and rehabilitation in the USA... Won't play in the Basketball without Borders tournament.

Straight forward

08-10-2007, 10:57 AM

maby someone could post Czech rep. roster for Eurobasket? and maby a little review about the team? :rolleyes:

GEORGE_4

08-10-2007, 02:04 PM

maby someone could post Czech rep. roster for Eurobasket? and maby a little review about the team? :rolleyes:

G Whitfield Maurice 185/86 without club actually
G Beneš Pavel 190/86 CEZ Basket Nymburk
G Vrubl Štěpán 186/76 A PLUS Brno
G/SF Welsch Jiří 201/97 Unicaja Malaga
SF Bartoň Luboš 201 Joventud Badalona
SF Sokolovský Ladislav 200/93 CEZ Basket Nymburk
SF Prášil Jaroslav 200/90 NH Ostrava
SF/PF Kraus Lukáš 198/100 Kondori Liberec
SF Křemen Michal 200/96 CEZ Basket Nymburk
PF/C Benda Petr 203/98 CEZ Basket Nymburk
C Houška Jakub 207/100 BK Decin
C Pospíšil Zbyněk 205/100 NH Ostrava
PF Nečas Radek 206/103 CEZ Basket Nymburk
C Starosta Ondřej 215/125 Zaragoza

rikhardur

08-12-2007, 08:41 PM

Portugal NT coach Valentyn Melnychuk has made the first two cuts, guard José Costa and centre Nuno Cortez won't play in Eurobasket. The last decision left is whether Carlos Andrade or João Gomes will play (both are naturalised).

barzdyla/\kaunas

08-14-2007, 10:55 AM

D. Blatt said: Who have Jasikevicius and Siskauskas can win ewerything.
I believe him and i think that Lithuania's roster is perfect,and i hope that this mashine - monster:) will work:) :)

Straight forward

08-14-2007, 11:21 AM

D. Blatt said: Who have Jasikevicius and Siskauskas can win ewerything.
I believe him and i think that Lithuania's roster is perfect,and i hope that this mashine - monster:) will work:) :)

I think you should wrote down this to the "prediction about final" and to be paticular, D. Blatt said: "In my objektive opinion, any team that has Jasikevicius...and that other guy who played for me in Benneton, what he's name?...oh yeah Siskauskas! (everybody laughing :) )...so any team who has those guys has a good chances to win anywere!"

Those are sweet words for me from D. Blatt;)