Serbian u20 2007

[jwfish6]

Has their been a preliminary squad posted yet? I think Serbia u20 will very likely win gold once again this year. The starting five could be deadly.

PG-Teodosic
SG-Tepic
SF-Aleksandrov
PF- Labovic
C- Stimac

Bench- Dragovic, Paunic, Djurkovic, Jereminov, Uros Nikolic..

[wardjdim]

Tempting.. :)

That's a nice generation to build on. It won't be that difficult. They just need some nice veterans to surround them and certainly not players like Jaric and Radmanovic trying to bully them in the locker room. :D

In the next WC and Olympics 2012, beware of the Serbs, if they make the correct moves now...

[jwfish6]

Yeah, veterans like Krstic and Pavlovic. This years serbian 1987 generation in my mind is even better than the teams that won gold in 2003, 2005, and 2006. Players like Teodosic and Stimac, who back on those teams did not contribute much, are now 2 of the most proven names on the list. Teodosic in FMP and Stimac in Lithuania have both really progressed.

I wonder if Serbia will send a team this year (maybe u19 u18 or u16) to Dallas this year for the Global Games. The dates conflict with the u20 tournament.

[jwfish6]

So the early roster has been posted..6 or 7 very solid players then alot of no-names, the aftermath of the serbia-montenegro split.

Nemanja Aleksandrov F 2.09
Marko Djurkovic C 2.05
Nikola Dragovic F 2.03
Luka Drca SG 1.95
Nikola Filipovic
Branko Jereminov G 1.87
Maksim Kovacevic G 1.90
Dragan Labovic F 2.07
Stefan Nikolic G 1.80
Ivan Paunic G 1.93
Svetozar Popovic
Nemanja Prolovic G 1.88
Vladimir Stimac C 2.08
Milos Teodosic G 1.96
Milenko Tepic G/F 2.00
Dusan Trajkovic

[Joško Poljak Fan]

Stefan Nikolić is at least 190cm tall.
and considering players like him are coming off bench (probably), I don't think Serbia would suffer significatly from "no names", they're just not hyped, like the rest are....

[Srle]

You forgot to write one more name. Dragan Tubak 217 cm,center. He is from Republika Srpska. It's very nice rooster. Uros Nikolic might be big suprise in this tournament. Very deep team.

[jwfish6]

Yes I like Nikolic alot lately. Tubak is interesting case.

http://savez.kosarka.co.yu/sr/NewsFull.aspx?pNewsID=538

Could you possibly translate the key upcoming dates such as when trainings begin and where as well as all things to do with the tournament. I am going to be there in Nova Gorica and need as much info as possible. Thanks.

[Buducnost PG]

You forgot to write one more name. Dragan Tubak 217 cm,center. He is from Republika Srpska. It's very nice rooster. Uros Nikolic might be big suprise in this tournament. Very deep team.

Tubak is born in 87 and still very raw. He played very decent this year with FMP2 in the 2nd Serbian league. I thought he is younger, but he has a long way to go.

[Buducnost PG]

Uros Nikolic had 2 very good games in the last weeks for Mega Ishrane. There is again enough talent and Serbia is the nummer 1 favourit for gold again. But Teodosic could also play for the senior team and perhaps he will not be with the U20 then.

[jwfish6]

If Teo played with the Sr. team hopefully they would call him up afterwards like they did Tepic last year, but then again he was only called as a backup and Teo might actually be counted on as a main player.

If they do call him up the u20 is in huge trouble at the point, but what are the chances of that happening with the FMP coach running the team. Atleast Teodosic wont get cut this year like he did last year. What a joke!

[jwfish6]

So it looks like the Serbian u19 team will be playing in Dallas at the Global Games. I guess Raduljica, Macvan, and Keselj will headline them. Hopefully Raduljica wont be busy with the NBA draft if he stays in.

[Buducnost PG]

Srbija - Crna Gora 76:89 (23:21, 13:12, 17:27, 23:29)

Beograd - Dvorana u Železniku. Igrano bez prisustva gledalaca. Sudije: Milovanović, Ignjatović (Srbija).
Srbija: Teodosić 11, Zivčević 2, S. Nikolić, Đurković 5, Labović 5, Kovačević 4, Jereminov, Tubak, U. Nikolić 3, Paunić 19, Dragović 18, Štimac 9.
Crna Gora: Martinić 2, Su. Šehović 11, Mijović 8, Popović 2, Milatović 4, Gajović, Zeković 11, Šturanović, Jovanović 8, Dašić 31, Savović 12, Se. Šehović.

Serbia played without two important players Tepic and Aleksandrov. But Montenegro also missed Mijatovic, Kastratovic and Stjepovic. Savovic had only one training with the montenegrin team before and played quite well. Also Sehovic brothers arrived later and that on Saturday last week. Dasic was amazing with 31 points.

It would be interesting to see how the game would end, if both teams play with their best squad.

[jwfish6]

This is very ironic because I just spoke with Aleksandrov and he told me this. That is still a shocker but all the credit in the world to Montenegro. It looks like the key players will be Teodosic, Paunic, Dragovic and Tepic and Aleksandrov.

Unreal how Dasic had such a poorly talked about performance at the Europcamp and then erupted for 31 points.

They key note however I think is that Serbia doesn't play as well in exhibiton games (as they lost nearly every game to weak teams in the Global Games last summer) as they do when it is really time to play.

It is such a shame that Mijatovic is out because they could deffinetely qualify for Div-A.

[Buducnost PG]

This is very ironic because I just spoke with Aleksandrov and he told me this. That is still a shocker but all the credit in the world to Montenegro. It looks like the key players will be Teodosic, Paunic, Dragovic and Tepic and Aleksandrov.

Unreal how Dasic had such a poorly talked about performance at the Europcamp and then erupted for 31 points.

They key note however I think is that Serbia doesn't play as well in exhibiton games (as they lost nearly every game to weak teams in the Global Games last summer) as they do when it is really time to play.

It is such a shame that Mijatovic is out because they could deffinetely qualify for Div-A.

They wrote that his performacne was bad. That can happen. This was only a camp of 3 days. He has more talent then most of the players there. But the interesting think here ist that they put Claver above all and Claver also had not good days in the camp. Dasic has to play as a pure PF. He has to stop to shoot all these 3-pointers then he will be a very good player. And i am not count much on that what they wrote on nba.draft. They to often hyped the wrong european players to early.

The win is a suprise but this montenegrin team is talented. Mijatovic and Dasic are very good talents and for me is Mijatovic better then Tepic for example and Dasic by far better talent then Labovic. If Dragovic had chosed Montenegro, then the U20 of Montenegro would be sure better then the of Serbia.

Imagin

C Zekovic or Jovanovic
PF Dasic
SF Savovic
SG Dragovic
PG Mijatovic

And even without Mijatovic Montenegro will make it to Division A.

If everything went well we will see strong montenegrin team on the EC2011 in Lithuania which will have the quality to reach the Quarterfinal.

[jwfish6]

Dasic and Mijatovic might overpower Tepic and Labovic, but the difference is that Dasic and Mijatovic are basically the team for CG. However, Teodosic and Labovic are just 2 names of plenty in the 1987/1988 generation.

First, Dasic is 88 so if Montenegro had been formed earlier he would not even be playing. Serbia plays with Raduljica, Keselj, Marjanovic, Markovic and Macvan who could all make this team.

Mijatovic is deffinetely amazing, but with the recent emergence of Teodosic I am not sure who is better. But one thing is for sure, no matter how good Mijatovic is, he is not better than Teodosic and Tepic combined.

The split is a good thing i guess (for example Mijatovic and Teodosic can now each run their own teams).

Montenegro will be good, but for now we can hope Serbia wins Div. A and Montenrgo wins Div. B. That would be an amazing accomplishment for the SCG family.

[jwfish6]

Does Dasic have any NBA potential playing solely the PF?

[Srle]

Congratulations to Montenegro. This is not big deal for Serbia. We just started with preparation. With the new coach and some players who just finish the season . And two important players didnt play. I am pleased with Dragovic. After riding the bench all season, he played very well. I dont care if they loose all preparation games. The will be ready when championship starts.

[Srle]

Basketball camps are not good measure for players. We saw Podkolzin,Petro,Skita ans some other players who had good camps and they becaome busts or disapointments. They have to prove them selves in the games.

[Buducnost PG]

Dasic and Mijatovic might overpower Tepic and Labovic, but the difference is that Dasic and Mijatovic are basically the team for CG. However, Teodosic and Labovic are just 2 names of plenty in the 1987/1988 generation.

First, Dasic is 88 so if Montenegro had been formed earlier he would not even be playing. Serbia plays with Raduljica, Keselj, Marjanovic, Markovic and Macvan who could all make this team.

Mijatovic is deffinetely amazing, but with the recent emergence of Teodosic I am not sure who is better. But one thing is for sure, no matter how good Mijatovic is, he is not better than Teodosic and Tepic combined.

The split is a good thing i guess (for example Mijatovic and Teodosic can now each run their own teams).

Montenegro will be good, but for now we can hope Serbia wins Div. A and Montenrgo wins Div. B. That would be an amazing accomplishment for the SCG family.


The most important thing of the juniors is that you get good players for your 1st NT. And there i see Dasic and Mijatovic as big deals for Montenegro. I am not saying that the montenegrin U20 is better then the serbian. But even with a full squad of Serbia (Tepic+Aleksandrov) and even Radjulica or Keselj they would have problems to beat Montenegro with Mijatovic, Kastartovic and Stjepovic.

This win maybe a huge suprise for the most of the people. Because all of them think SCG was always loaded with serbians and montenegrins never played a huge role. But this is not right. Last year at the U20 the main players were from Montenegro for example.No matter that it was a preparation game, we see a montenegrin team (without their main backgourd Kastratovic+Mijatovic) beating the EC and that easily at the end. This is a big win for Montenegro and showed that they could make a good team in the future and not as the most people in Serbia think and say that they could only be of the level of San Marino and Andorra in all sports. Now Montenegro is better in handball for example then Serbia.

I am asking me how the feeling of Dragovic was after they lost to Montenegro.

I think we all know enough about Daisc and Mijatovic. But the team is more then these two. Keep a eye on Boris Savovic and Suad Sehovic. Savovic last year was cut from Nikolic together with Teodosic as 13th and 14th player from SCG squad.

Serbia will be the main favo to win the EC and they have a very good lineup. But players like Dasic, Mijatovic and Savovic could easily play in the first 12 of the serbian NT.

[Joško Poljak Fan]

It is such a shame that Mijatovic is out because they could deffinetely qualify for Div-A.
with or without Mijatović I think for Div-B teams Montenegrian bball school is just "another planet", they should qualify easily unless something really unpredictable happens.


Does Dasic have any NBA potential playing solely the PF?
Dašić has tons of potential, but NBA wise? not. Unless NBA starts valueing fundamentals and game awareness, it's a waste of talent to get the less athletical euro players play there... Dašić included.

[Srle]

Why should Dragovic feel bad? He represent Serbian people in Montenegro and Serbia. And he will play in Europen championship. Mijatovic was always role player for the SCG national team. To me he was always wild player with very bad in game decisions. Dasic was a main player for 88 generation and that generation was not6 that succesfull. I think Raduljica is much better NBA prospect. Based on his height, skill and position thaT he play. I think Dasic is undersized for PF in NBA. And he is not SF. This is very win for Montenegro. But for Serbia this loss is not big deal. Preparation jus began, new coach, two important player missing. Not a big deal at all.

[Buducnost PG]

Why should Dragovic feel bad? He represent Serbian people in Montenegro and Serbia. And he will play in Europen championship. Mijatovic was always role player for the SCG national team. To me he was always wild player with very bad in game decisions. Dasic was a main player for 88 generation and that generation was not6 that succesfull. I think Raduljica is much better NBA prospect. Based on his height, skill and position thaT he play. I think Dasic is undersized for PF in NBA. And he is not SF. This is very win for Montenegro. But for Serbia this loss is not big deal. Preparation jus began, new coach, two important player missing. Not a big deal at all.

Dragovic is not playing for Serbia because he sees him as serbian. He said that he is montenegrin, but will not play for Montenegro, because he had big problems when he left Buducnost. And Mijatovic was not a role player he was the starting PG of the team. He saved SCG against Italy in the 1/2 final. He was the best PG of SCG on U16. He was at the U18 team, but get injured during the tournament. I would definetly say that Teodosic is by far the better passer and more the odlschool PG. Mijatovic is a better shooter, much faster and a better defender. But he is to unselfish for now.

And Dasic is by far the better player at the moment compared to Radjulica. He had als more impact on the junior squads of SCG in the past then Radjulica. Dasic definetly has to start to play as fulltime PF. There he is at his best. And i would hope that nobody of them ever put a leg in the NBA. NBA has brought serbian basketabll there were it is now. I would prefer to see the players playing for big european teams and then perhaps with 26 go to the NBA.

And yes this is a big win for Montenegro, but some people in Serbia see this lost game of Serbia as a shame for Serbia. And Serbia missed 2 important players. Right. What to say then about Montenegro? And they are also a total new team which played for the 1st time together.

[jwfish6]

Was the game played at FMP's arena? Is there any info on any other prepartion games for Serbia and where these stats were found?

Whered did Boris Savovic play this year? Did he just play a little in Hemofarm?

Who is better, him or Uros Nikolic?

[jwfish6]

Savovic last year was cut from Nikolic together with Teodosic as 13th and 14th player from SCG squad..

I think his name is getting confused with Jovanovic who was also cut right before the championships. Maybe I am wrong, but Jovanovic was with SCG in Dallas and got cut, and Savovic was nowhere to be found.

[Srle]

Yes it was played in Zeleznik arena without specatators. Boris Savovic played for Hemofarm. I think he was injured later.

[Srle]

Raduljica showed on last championship that he is very effective player. He is unselfish player. He is more team oriented player. I hope that will change. He had better perentage and shot selection than Dasic. Dasic often have very bad shot selection. He is a talented player. No question. Both Raduljica and Dasic had poor sesaons. But I think they will be much better next sesaon. Its important for Raduljica to have a good World Championship. He can carry that momentum into the new sesaon. I agree that Dasic is ahead of Raduljica at this moment. But in a long run I think Raduljica will be more succesfull. He has very good physical tools and skill to make NBA. And to be productive player in the league. But on the other hand they both can become busts. But I am optimistic beacuse both FMP and Buducnost are doing good job with young players.

[Buducnost PG]

Raduljica showed on last championship that he is very effective player. He is unselfish player. He is more team oriented player. I hope that will change. He had better perentage and shot selection than Dasic. Dasic often have very bad shot selection. He is a talented player. No question. Both Raduljica and Dasic had poor sesaons. But I think they will be much better next sesaon. Its important for Raduljica to have a good World Championship. He can carry that momentum into the new sesaon. I agree that Dasic is ahead of Raduljica at this moment. But in a long run I think Raduljica will be more succesfull. He has very good physical tools and skill to make NBA. And to be productive player in the league. But on the other hand they both can become busts. But I am optimistic beacuse both FMP and Buducnost are doing good job with young players.

Dasic had not a poor season. He had some very good games in the NLB against good teams. Radjulica was the one with the weak season. He couldn´t stay away from foultrouble the whole season against teams like Leskovac and Swisslion Vrsac.

Dasic had 8,2 ppg and 5,2rpg in 22 mineuts of play in NLB League. He overall hit 41,7% from the field, because he took to much 3-points. When he played more inside he had some very good games against good teams in the NLB.

And i am not saying that Radjulica is a weak player. But in the past Dasic was cleary the best serbo-montenegrin player of the 88 generation. And he is also better then Radjulica now. He only has to start to focus more to play as pure PF.

[Srle]

Again Dasic played more minutes,more games and had more freedom than Raduljica. In my opinon Raduljica was better player last season on European Championship. Dasic scored more points with much lower %. It was in the 40's. Which is very poor for PF. And he attempted more FG. We will compare them again next season. I expect Raduljica to step big time.

[Buducnost PG]

Again Dasic played more minutes,more games and had more freedom than Raduljica. In my opinon Raduljica was better player last season on European Championship. Dasic scored more points with much lower %. It was in the 40's. Which is very poor for PF. And he attempted more FG. We will compare them again next season. I expect Raduljica to step big time.

Dasic playe more minuets in a much better team this season and had at 1st to earn his playingtime. He did it through good games and then played more then Maras which was in front of him when the season starts. Radjulica was send to Borac from FMP and had a very bad season. And he was not able to play more minuets, because he get in foultrouble immediately.

I hope we will see Radjulica with FMP next season playing in the NLB and see what he can do.

[Srle]

It wasnt all beacuse of foul troubles. Bralovic and Dramacanin were often in front of Raduljica.

[jwfish6]

What is the deal with Keselj. NBADraft.net said he was the worst player in the whole Rbk camp. Even though they have some mysterious writers and are not as quality as draftexpress, those are some serious comments. Do you think he just had a bad camp?

[jwfish6]

Serbia NT U 19 - Montenegro NT U 20
94 100

Serbia: Keselj 18, B. Marjanovic 19

Interesting that the u19 team played better than the u20, but that means nothing. any way to get the official stats?

[vladski]

Basketball camps are not good measure for players. We saw Podkolzin,Petro,Skita ans some other players who had good camps and they becaome busts or disapointments. They have to prove them selves in the games.

Hi there Srle, can you please help??


Our National team - Philippines is currently camping in belgrade and reports came that we played against Montenegro NT U20. Could you possibly identify these players mentioned below as i have found out that it's a different names than the officially listed in eurobasket U20 National Team.

SMC-RP 99 – Taulava 16, Seigle 15, Caguioa 14, Hontiveros 13, Norwood 10, Helterbrand 10, De Ocampo 9, Pennisi 8, Alapag 4, Ritualo 0.

MONTENEGRO 85 – Savovic 20, Sehovic, Sead 15, Sehovic, Suad 9, Micovic 9, Bjelic 9, Milatovic 8, Gajovic 4, Sturanovic 4, Jovanovic 4, Martinic 3.


I would be greteful if you can give any info.


Thanks.

[joel23]

Who are:?
Savovic
Sehovic, Sead
Sehovic, Suad
Micovic
Bjelic
Milatovic
Gajovic
Sturanovic
Jovanovic
Martinic


Those who played against Philippine Team... It's true they're solid Serbia and Montenegro U-20 national team??? Who played at???

[jwfish6]

That is the Montenegro u20 National team, not the Serbia and Montenegro National team. The 2 countries split this past year and are now 2 completely different countries. Serbia is a country. Montenegro is a country. Despite being in its first year of existence, Montenegro is probably one of the better teams in Europe.

[joel23]

That is the Montenegro u20 National team, not the Serbia and Montenegro National team. The 2 countries split this past year and are now 2 completely different countries. Serbia is a country. Montenegro is a country. Despite being in its first year of existence, Montenegro is probably one of the better teams in Europe.
ah ok thanks

[jwfish6]

Serbia U 20 - Serbia U 19
91 / 87

U20: Paunic 7, Filipovic 0, Nikolic 9
U19: Keselj 23, Radulovic 3, Marjanovic 11


Buducnost PG, any stats?

[jwfish6]

Any info on Filip Barovic of Montenegro? I heard he was one of the best young prospects and Barcelona wants him?

[Joško Poljak Fan]

http://www.kosarka.hr/main.asp?P=Vijest&hn=naslovnica&J=HRV&VijestID=15709

Serbia U20 - Croatia U20 101-68

and a massive fight :rolleyes:

Marin Han, Ante Tomić and Filip Vukičević were ejected from Croatia, Dragan Labović, Vladimir Štimac and Nikola Dragović from Serbia...
hopefully this incident won't have some major consequences,we'll see how Fiba will react.

[Sasha]

Well...in 13th minute result was...44-13 for Serbia, so I guess the fight was inevitable

[Srle]

Fiba should not react at all. I guess our guys give them lessons in boxing too. This team is great. No Aleksandrov and Tepic yet.

[ArkadiosV2]

Any youtube links?

[jwfish6]

HELL YEAH serbia is fucking amazing man the only picture i saw was paunic about to beat some guys ass and the croat is trying to hold him off...there should be no punishment obviously croatia started it after being frustrated..any more details?

By the way, who would start something with Ivan Paunic? The guy is a flat out beast and would probably beat any of their asses.

[Srle]

Djurkovic is a dangerous kid.

[jwfish6]

Trener Vlada Vukoičić odredio je 12 igrača koji će učestvovati na Evropskom prvenstvu: Miloš Teodosić (FMP), Branko Jereminov (Kovin), Stefan Nikolić (Slovan, Ljubljana), Milenko Tepić (Partizan), Ivan Paunić (Vojvodina), Nikola Dragović (UCLA), Nenad Zivčević (Sloga), Dragan Labović (FMP), Vladimir Štimac (Žalgiris), Marko Djurković (Partizan), Uroš Nikolić (Mega ishrana) i Maksim Kovačević (Partizan).

Why would Aleksandrov be left off the list? That makes no sense. Even though he will be playing with the senior NT too, it is doubtful he will play many signifcant minutes? This was supposed to be the resurection of his career.