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pachador
06-05-2007, 08:56 PM
Boom !!! :eek:
June 06, 2007
University of Visayas ‘steals’ Fil-Am giant
By Marian C. Baring
Sun.Star Staff Reporter
EVEN before the season starts, Filipino-American cager Gregory Fuentes-Slaughter is already wreaking havoc after the University of Cebu (UC) and University of the Visayas (UV) got locked in a tug-of-war in an attempt to tap his services for their respective varsities.
UC, which was the first to discover the 6-foot-11 talent from Virginia, USA, has already paraded Slaughter around their school.
They also let him practice with the UC Webmasters and introduced him to the university’s owner, Augusto Go.
UC’s mind was made up, Slaughter’s was not.
Apparently, at the same time, UV was also pursuing Slaughter.
After all the troubles they went to, UC has conceded, as it could not match the offer presented by UV to Slaughter.
“It is very upsetting because we thought that he will play with us. But UC never prevents its players from seeking greener pastures. UV made a monetary offer which UC could not counter. We could give him a good education, an ample practice allowance, but that’s about it,” said UC head coach Rhoel Gomez.
In principle, Slaughter has not yet enrolled in any school and is still weighing his options before making a decision.
According to Gomez, however, UV has won this round.
“I have spoken with Slaughter’s uncle and he told me that they will no longer look for other schools, including those in Manila, because they are satisfied with UV’s offer,” Gomez said.
UV head coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug admitted to have already recruited Slaughter, and said they made him an offer he could not refuse.
“We (Cabahug, Didi and Eddie Gullas) assured him that we will take care of him after his playing years are over. If he wants to pursue his ambition to go professional, we will help him achieve that,” Cabahug said.
Cabahug was mum about the monetary side of the offer and did not confirm nor deny rumors that Slaughter was offered a P25,000 monthly allowance.
“It is not about the money. It is more on the privileges that even their relatives could enjoy. You see, Sir Eddie wants the players to be able to help their families while playing,” said Cabahug.
Cabahug said that not only do their players get to study at the university for free, but the players’ relatives could also go to school for free as well.
Cabahug said that it has been UV’s attractive compensation that draws the players to them.
“History tells you that it is the players who come to us. That is why we have a huge pool of good players,” said Cabahug, who steered UV to six straight championships.
Cabahug said while he is confident that they will still dominate this year’s Cesafi, his recruitment of Slaughter is to boost the team’s chances for the National Inter-Collegiate league, which UV has still not won.
Cabahug also added if Slaughter decides to play for UV, then it will be the first time that a Filipino-American plays for them.
sergio23
06-05-2007, 11:13 PM
Boom !!! :eek:
June 06, 2007
University of Visayas ‘steals’ Fil-Am giant
By Marian C. Baring
Sun.Star Staff Reporter
EVEN before the season starts, Filipino-American cager Gregory Fuentes-Slaughter is already wreaking havoc after the University of Cebu (UC) and University of the Visayas (UV) got locked in a tug-of-war in an attempt to tap his services for their respective varsities.
UC, which was the first to discover the 6-foot-11 talent from Virginia, USA, has already paraded Slaughter around their school.
They also let him practice with the UC Webmasters and introduced him to the university’s owner, Augusto Go.
UC’s mind was made up, Slaughter’s was not.
Apparently, at the same time, UV was also pursuing Slaughter.
After all the troubles they went to, UC has conceded, as it could not match the offer presented by UV to Slaughter.
“It is very upsetting because we thought that he will play with us. But UC never prevents its players from seeking greener pastures. UV made a monetary offer which UC could not counter. We could give him a good education, an ample practice allowance, but that’s about it,” said UC head coach Rhoel Gomez.
In principle, Slaughter has not yet enrolled in any school and is still weighing his options before making a decision.
According to Gomez, however, UV has won this round.
“I have spoken with Slaughter’s uncle and he told me that they will no longer look for other schools, including those in Manila, because they are satisfied with UV’s offer,” Gomez said.
UV head coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug admitted to have already recruited Slaughter, and said they made him an offer he could not refuse.
“We (Cabahug, Didi and Eddie Gullas) assured him that we will take care of him after his playing years are over. If he wants to pursue his ambition to go professional, we will help him achieve that,” Cabahug said.
Cabahug was mum about the monetary side of the offer and did not confirm nor deny rumors that Slaughter was offered a P25,000 monthly allowance.
“It is not about the money. It is more on the privileges that even their relatives could enjoy. You see, Sir Eddie wants the players to be able to help their families while playing,” said Cabahug.
Cabahug said that not only do their players get to study at the university for free, but the players’ relatives could also go to school for free as well.
Cabahug said that it has been UV’s attractive compensation that draws the players to them.
“History tells you that it is the players who come to us. That is why we have a huge pool of good players,” said Cabahug, who steered UV to six straight championships.
Cabahug said while he is confident that they will still dominate this year’s Cesafi, his recruitment of Slaughter is to boost the team’s chances for the National Inter-Collegiate league, which UV has still not won.
Cabahug also added if Slaughter decides to play for UV, then it will be the first time that a Filipino-American plays for them.
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pachador
06-05-2007, 11:20 PM
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Burndvinyard
06-05-2007, 11:24 PM
ang dami na ninyong magagaling na players hindi lang sa A team pero pati na rin sa B team ninyo tapos gusto pa ninyo hugutin yan? ganyan din gawain ng lasalle e at ng FEU yata. pag-bigyan naman ninyo ibang university ng chance manalo sa champions league. nag-ko-koleksyon yata kayo ng mga centro a :)
this a healthier feud. :D how about building up this kid as a power forward and not a center? He could be the next hot thing in Philippine basketball!
princejunar
06-06-2007, 12:00 AM
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jramoyo
06-06-2007, 01:08 AM
he's better off playing in manila, no offense to the southern collegiate leagues...
watiwawa
06-06-2007, 01:31 AM
he's better off playing in manila, no offense to the southern collegiate leagues...
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kerouac82
06-06-2007, 01:35 AM
he's better off playing in manila, no offense to the southern collegiate leagues...
Ah, but UV's basketball program can give the Manila schools a run for their money. Remember, this was the same school that produced Elmer Cabahug, JR Quiñahan, Bonel Balingit and Neil Raneses.
On the other hand, if he ends up playing for UCebu, he might just be the spark the school needs to get recruitment interest, thus getting closer to levelling the field between Manila schools and those in the South. By the way, UCebu already has a 6'8"-6'9" center named Junmar Fajardo.
spreekanick
06-06-2007, 05:30 AM
i hope he wouldn't be a samige eman type of a player...sayang kasi kung ganun... :)
sergio23
06-06-2007, 06:16 AM
ang dami na ninyong magagaling na players hindi lang sa A team pero pati na rin sa B team ninyo tapos gusto pa ninyo hugutin yan? ganyan din gawain ng lasalle e at ng FEU yata. pag-bigyan naman ninyo ibang university ng chance manalo sa champions league. nag-ko-koleksyon yata kayo ng mga centro a :)
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kerouac82
06-06-2007, 06:45 AM
i hope he wouldn't be a samige eman type of a player...sayang kasi kung ganun... :)
Actually, Eman's a good player if and when he wants to be one. It all boils down to two things: 1) desire to play; and 2) playing time.
Much has been said about Samigue's tendency to slack off, so I won't discuss much. However, Henkel-Sista's coach hasn't been givin him enough playing time. For example, in last Saturday's ballgame against Harbour, he was fielded in for the first quarter, scoring nine points. In the second and third quarters, however, he was riding the bench, especially during Sista's run. He was only fielded in when Sista was out of the running in the fourth. There have been rumors that Sista management had been hiding Samigue to prevent other PBA teams from scouting him out and picking him in this year's draft. It is also an open secret that Wel-best (the owner of both the Welcoat PBA team and distributor of Sista products) is envisioning a team with both JR Reyes and Eman as their main men in the paint next year.
But enough of Samigue. Slaughter is an unknown commodity for now. You can't teach height. Reports have said that he's bulky, too, although most of it is fat. Nothing that good conditioning can't fix. He might be an EJ Feihl at worst and a taller Taulava at best. I'll be looking forward to seeing this guy play for the NT in 2011-2012, along with our up-and-coming big guys.
QuickFox
06-06-2007, 07:37 AM
He can be a back up C at early age... why not start playing for the NT now?
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rensquared
06-06-2007, 09:26 AM
Is coach chot reyes considering him to play for the NT? I hope so
SkyWalker
06-06-2007, 02:27 PM
we should also be wary that who knows, the author might have done some overhyping of this article. i mean, who knows, maybe this fil-am guy only stands 6'8-6'9 and the author made it look that he's tall. besides, sunstar did some terrible article bout the ABC groupings.:D
watiwawa
06-06-2007, 02:41 PM
we should also be wary that who knows, the author might have done some overhyping of this article. i mean, who knows, maybe this fil-am guy only stands 6'8-6'9 and the author made it look that he's tall. besides, sunstar did some terrible article bout the ABC groupings.:D
ya you're right......
DaveMap2007
06-06-2007, 05:23 PM
Excellent if he is bulky we need bruisers in INternational Game.......if he turns out a lanky center will he just one of the GUYS......
ramonmagdalo
06-07-2007, 02:38 AM
By the way? Where is Chiu? I watched hardball and bill Velasco mentioned that he is now a 6'10" Center playing for some College abroad... If that is so we'd be having tall and talented bigmen come 2012-- Chiu at 6'10, Aguilar at 6'10" and this slaughter at 7'0, and by then they may be taller... hmmm... I'd rather have Raymundo over Washington... but we still really lack tall shooters
onono1
06-07-2007, 03:23 AM
we should also be wary that who knows, the author might have done some overhyping of this article. i mean, who knows, maybe this fil-am guy only stands 6'8-6'9 and the author made it look that he's tall. besides, sunstar did some terrible article bout the ABC groupings.:D
Yah i agree with the wisdom and thoughts of the master jedi skywalker, there must be some kind of media hype about this fil-am slaughter to increase his value? Reports said he stands 6-11 we know in the united states they add about 2 inches on height, so gregory slaughter must be 6-9 tall. Not only that how good is he? Or is he agile and mobile for his height? Or that supposed to be 6-11 fil-am needs to develop 1st his skills and strength to play decent basketball we badly needed for a big man in international tournament. These are my questions that need to be answered heheheheh :p
RetiredJordanStopper
06-07-2007, 03:25 AM
By the way? Where is Chiu? I watched hardball and bill Velasco mentioned that he is now a 6'10" Center playing for some College abroad... If that is so we'd be having tall and talented bigmen come 2012-- Chiu at 6'10, Aguilar at 6'10" and this slaughter at 7'0, and by then they may be taller... hmmm... I'd rather have Raymundo over Washington... but we still really lack tall shooters
Chiu is not enrolled in any Div 1 schools in the US..he's planning to pursue a degree in medicine...but there are reports he's been working out with some of the pro teams here.
RetiredJordanStopper
06-07-2007, 03:28 AM
By the way? Where is Chiu? I watched hardball and bill Velasco mentioned that he is now a 6'10" Center playing for some College abroad... If that is so we'd be having tall and talented bigmen come 2012-- Chiu at 6'10, Aguilar at 6'10" and this slaughter at 7'0, and by then they may be taller... hmmm... I'd rather have Raymundo over Washington... but we still really lack tall shooters
don't forget lughead Eman Samigue..he's 6'10 and more fluid than Marlou...if only he can get his screws tightened.
kerouac82
06-07-2007, 03:32 AM
Chiu is not enrolled in any Div 1 schools in the US..he's planning to pursue a degree in medicine...but there are reports he's been working out with some of the pro teams here.
Barangay Ginebra, in particular.
Re: Slaughter's height, I think the SunStar report is more or less correct. The FIBA article is an unfortunate mistake, but I consider the SunStar a reliable source of information. He is a legit Fil-Am as one of the coaches of Cebu Institute of Technology is an uncle of his. As for the height, reports have placed him in the vicinity of 6'9" to 6'11, 6'10" being a conservative estimate.
I'm hoping, though, that Servinio would give us more info on the kid -- he knows more about the Cebu scene than all of us combined here.
pachador
06-07-2007, 04:04 AM
‘UV is my choice’ Fil-Am giant Gregory Slaughter really wants to be a Green Lancer
By Emmanuel B. Villaruel
Thursday, June 7, 2007 Freeman newspaper from Ponso @ pex
Fil-Am goliath Gregory Fuentes-Slaughter said it is really his desire to play for the multi-titled University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers and not for any other school here or in Manila.
This is Slaughter’s response to a report by another local daily insinuating that the 6-foot-11, 250-plus pound giant was ‘stolen’ by UV from the University of Cebu (UC).
Slaughter, whose mother Emma Fuentes is from Brgy. Basak, Cebu City, admitted having joined the practice of the UC Webmasters and even posed for photograph with UC owner Atty. Augusto W. Go, but clarified that he made no commitment with UC at that time.
“I haven’t made a decision nor made any commitment (with UC) at that time,” said Slaughter in an interview with The Freeman yesterday during only his second practice session with the Green Lancers at the UV Gym.
“I really want to play for UV because they’re the strongest team in Cebu. They won six straight championships in the local league (CESAFI) and that’s an amazing feat. Hopefully it will continue when I join the team,” added the 19-year-old skyscraper from Virginia, USA.
As of yesterday, Gregory has not yet struck a formal deal with UV, but said it’s a hundred percent sure he’s joining the Green Lancers’ fold.
“There are still a few things that need to be worked out, but it’s safe to say now that I’m going to play for UV,” confirmed Slaughter, whose bunch of NBA idols include Yao Ming, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett.
Slaughter said he still has a lot to improve on his skills, but he will try his best to be a worthy addition to the UV team.
“I still have to work things out, but one thing I can described of myself as a player is that I can play team game,” said Slaughter.
As if an ominous warning to UV’s CESAFI rivals, Slaughter dazzled a small throng of spectators who watched the UV practice with a variation of two-handed slam and reverse dunks.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Slaughter was accompanied by his uncle Benito Fuentes, who played for the UV Green Lancers in the 1981 season of the Cebu Amateur Athletic Association (CAAA), which is now the CESAFI.
“UV is really our choice. It’s only that I failed to contact coach Boy Cabahug immediately, said Fuentes, who revealed it was Jinging Rama who spotted his nephew and invited him to join the practice. “We only allowed Gregory to join the UC practice out of respect.”
Coach Boy Cabahug, for his part, is very proud that a Fil-Am cager will don the UV jersey for the first time.
“I’m happy that for the first time, UV has a Fil-Am player in its team. Our first step is to develop him as a complete player. Hopefully, he can help us in our bid to win the National Inter-Collegiate this year,” said Cabahug.
Cabahug denied rumors that UV will be shelling out a 25,000 monthly allowance for Slaughter, but admitted they tendered him an offer he could not refuse.
“It’s not all monetary offer. One thing for sure is that UV will be there to help him fulfill his goals after his playing years with us are over,” assured Cabahug.
ramonmagdalo
06-07-2007, 05:01 AM
Years back I was able to chat with Eman's coach back in his college days in Davao City, there are negative feedbacks though there is no doubt that this tall guy is quicker than Marlou... BUT he is not as driven as Marlou, he does not bulk up and may lack initiative... similar to Canlas, that 6'10" who was drafted in the PBA but never really got to see much action and is now back in the amateur ranks... still, it is not too late for Eman, if he could get that inspiration to succeed... but for now even if he'd play for welcoat, he'd be second or even third fiddler for the center position...
RetiredJordanStopper
06-07-2007, 05:44 AM
... BUT he is not as driven as Marlou, he does not bulk up and may lack initiative...
being compared to Marlou in the drive / desire department is the ultimate negative feedback an amateur bigman can get.
Remember, Marlou's drive is comparable to a goldfish in a fishbowl..and being short on the marlou's drive standard is like being the puss that infects the mucus.
onono1
06-07-2007, 05:47 AM
[QUOTE=pachador]‘UV is my choice’ Fil-Am giant Gregory Slaughter really wants to be a Green Lancer
By Emmanuel B. Villaruel
Thursday, June 7, 2007 Freeman newspaper from Ponso @ pex
Fil-Am goliath Gregory Fuentes-Slaughter said it is really his desire to play for the multi-titled University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers and not for any other school here or in Manila.
This is Slaughter’s response to a report by another local daily insinuating that the 6-foot-11, 250-plus pound giant was ‘stolen’ by UV from the University of Cebu (UC).
Slaughter, whose mother Emma Fuentes is from Brgy. Basak, Cebu City, admitted having joined the practice of the UC Webmasters and even posed for photograph with UC owner Atty. Augusto W. Go, but clarified that he made no commitment with UC at that time.
“I haven’t made a decision nor made any commitment (with UC) at that time,” said Slaughter in an interview with The Freeman yesterday during only his second practice session with the Green Lancers at the UV Gym.
“I really want to play for UV because they’re the strongest team in Cebu. They won six straight championships in the local league (CESAFI) and that’s an amazing feat. Hopefully it will continue when I join the team,” added the 19-year-old skyscraper from Virginia, USA.
As of yesterday, Gregory has not yet struck a formal deal with UV, but said it’s a hundred percent sure he’s joining the Green Lancers’ fold.
“There are still a few things that need to be worked out, but it’s safe to say now that I’m going to play for UV,” confirmed Slaughter, whose bunch of NBA idols include Yao Ming, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett.
Slaughter said he still has a lot to improve on his skills, but he will try his best to be a worthy addition to the UV team.
“I still have to work things out, but one thing I can described of myself as a player is that I can play team game,” said Slaughter.
As if an ominous warning to UV’s CESAFI rivals, Slaughter dazzled a small throng of spectators who watched the UV practice with a variation of two-handed slam and reverse dunks.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
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Well, well, well i remember the time when andy seigle made his 1st philippine media appearance. He showed the viewers with his thundering dunks no less :D and quinito henson 1st reported that seigle stands 6-10.. Hopefully this time fil-am slaughter is stronger, quicker and better player than I thought.
ramonmagdalo
06-07-2007, 06:22 AM
being compared to Marlou in the drive / desire department is the ultimate negative feedback an amateur bigman can get.
Remember, Marlou's drive is comparable to a goldfish in a fishbowl..and being short on the marlou's drive standard is like being the puss that infects the mucus.
I know... but give this guy some credit :) I was at Araneta in 1998 when the Centennial Team battled the chinese national team. I guess I was one of those eager youngsters who lined up a good two (2) hours before the game... and guess who I saw inside practicing by his lonesome? Marlou Aquino!! Sometimes I hate his "bahala-na attitude" yet when it comes to Flag and country, the skyscrapper gave his best... and that cannot be said of Eman Samigue who has not even reached stardom but has hardly made progress with his body. i refer to Danny Ildefonso who bulked up when he knew what he was going to face when he gets to the professional ranks... I just hope that Eman understands his present capacity and does something to gain not only the skills but also the conditioning that would bring him to heights. Kung hindi, sayang ang lahat...
pachador
06-07-2007, 06:39 AM
UV Lancers acquire 6-foot-11 Fil-Am
Cebu Daily News
06/07/2007
CEBU, Philippines--Already near unbeatable with their formidable roster of current local collegiate stars, the mighty University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers, the six-time defending champions, hope to become totally invincible in the upcoming season of the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (CESAFI) basketball tournament with the addition of 6-foot-11 Fil-American behemoth Gregory Fuentes-Slaughter into their fold.
The giant from the state of Virginia, USA formally committed to UV yesterday at their practice session as he announced that he will enroll at the school today.
Slaughter was endorsed by his uncle, Benito Fuentes, a former Green Lancer in the 80s.
Former PBA great and UV head coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug, said that they really weren't trying to outbid their chief rival, the University of Cebu for Slaughter's services. They merely sat down with the 19-year old pivot and laid their cards out on the table and then, let him make the decision.
“Gistoryahan ra namo siya about the privileges that we are offering. We spoke about the allowance which was dili sad dako, pero dili sad gamay. It's enough especially for someone nga dili taga-diri. It's was up to him na to decide,” said Cabahug. “All we can say is that history speaks for itself. Our track record speaks for itself. If he wants to have a better future, off and especially on the basketball court, then UV is the place,” added Cabahug.
Cabahug also said that while he was impressed with the young center's raw abilities, there was still much to improve on. “He can shoot, he can drive to the basket and he can post up. There are a lot of things that he can do but there are also a lot of things that he needs to improve on,” said Cabahug.
Slaughter’s addition to the Green Lancers will give a roster chockfull of agile big men more ceiling and firepower. They are exp ected to dominate opposing frontlines in the upcoming Cesafi season which opens in July. These include the comebacking Ariel Mepana, who is back after missing all of last season due to an ACL injury, 6-foot-7 Rino Berame, Ed Arda, Mike Luga and rookie Gilbert Lao.
UV already boasts of the league's tallest line-up with an average height of 6'3”.
Correspondent Jonas Panerio
ramonmagdalo
06-07-2007, 06:50 AM
[QUOTE=pachador]‘UV is my choice’ Fil-Am giant Gregory Slaughter really wants to be a Green Lancer
By Emmanuel B. Villaruel
Thursday, June 7, 2007 Freeman newspaper from Ponso @ pex
Fil-Am goliath Gregory Fuentes-Slaughter said it is really his desire to play for the multi-titled University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers and not for any other school here or in Manila.
This is Slaughter’s response to a report by another local daily insinuating that the 6-foot-11, 250-plus pound giant was ‘stolen’ by UV from the University of Cebu (UC).
Slaughter, whose mother Emma Fuentes is from Brgy. Basak, Cebu City, admitted having joined the practice of the UC Webmasters and even posed for photograph with UC owner Atty. Augusto W. Go, but clarified that he made no commitment with UC at that time.
“I haven’t made a decision nor made any commitment (with UC) at that time,” said Slaughter in an interview with The Freeman yesterday during only his second practice session with the Green Lancers at the UV Gym.
“I really want to play for UV because they’re the strongest team in Cebu. They won six straight championships in the local league (CESAFI) and that’s an amazing feat. Hopefully it will continue when I join the team,” added the 19-year-old skyscraper from Virginia, USA.
As of yesterday, Gregory has not yet struck a formal deal with UV, but said it’s a hundred percent sure he’s joining the Green Lancers’ fold.
“There are still a few things that need to be worked out, but it’s safe to say now that I’m going to play for UV,” confirmed Slaughter, whose bunch of NBA idols include Yao Ming, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett.
Slaughter said he still has a lot to improve on his skills, but he will try his best to be a worthy addition to the UV team.
“I still have to work things out, but one thing I can described of myself as a player is that I can play team game,” said Slaughter.
As if an ominous warning to UV’s CESAFI rivals, Slaughter dazzled a small throng of spectators who watched the UV practice with a variation of two-handed slam and reverse dunks.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
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Well, well, well i remember the time when andy seigle made his 1st philippine media appearance. He showed the viewers with his thundering dunks no less :D and quinito henson 1st reported that seigle stands 6-10.. Hopefully this time fil-am slaughter is stronger, quicker and better player than I thought.
:D yup! everybody remembers Andy Seigle being reported as a 6'10" Center with sleek moves and powerful jams... hahaha
onono1
06-07-2007, 07:04 AM
What about this fil-am gregory slaughter is he black or white? Would it be better if this 6-11 fil-am behemoth play in manila. Do u think it would benefit him more if he find himself playing in lets say ateneo, ust or even san beda perhaps..
ramonmagdalo
06-07-2007, 07:14 AM
What about this fil-am gregory slaughter is he black or white? Would it be better if this 6-11 fil-am behemoth play in manila. Do u think it would benefit him more if he find himself playing in lets say ateneo, ust or even san beda perhaps..
I guess so... I'm from the south yet I'd love to see these big guys develop through tough collegiate basketball training... Although its the imperial manila but it has what it takes to take them to the next level
RetiredJordanStopper
06-07-2007, 08:40 AM
from PEX
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x308/benjielyn/Gregory.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/itgarado/Greg_Pix2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/itgarado/Greg_Pix1.jpg
note that his head almost touch the 7'0 foot clearance bar..he's legit
ramonmagdalo
06-07-2007, 08:44 AM
from PEX
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x308/benjielyn/Gregory.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/itgarado/Greg_Pix2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/itgarado/Greg_Pix1.jpg
note that his head almost touch the 7'0 foot clearance bar..he's legit
And he looks like a Filipino!
Yet much work to be done... his built is what we call "tubigon"... more visits to the weights room
onono1
06-07-2007, 09:39 AM
from PEX
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x308/benjielyn/Gregory.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/itgarado/Greg_Pix2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/itgarado/Greg_Pix1.jpg
note that his head almost touch the 7'0 foot clearance bar..he's legit
Thanks for the images guys. Hmmmmnnn now it can be told he's white. Lets hope this supposed to be fil-am 6-11 slaughter won't be another alex crisano or james walkvist, tall fil-foreigners but ineffective.
kerouac82
06-07-2007, 09:40 AM
Goodness, he's... big. With proper conditioning, he'll get leaner and he has at least a year of vertical growth left. I also hope that he develops a good outside stroke as well, or at least a decent free-throw shot. I can't wait for 2012 and him joining Japeth, Samigue, K-Dub, and Gabe in the Nationals.
onono1
06-07-2007, 10:02 AM
If only greg slaughter's american father is black there is a possibility he will inherit his dad's athletic skills, the typical black american's athleticism, agility and quickness and of course the power.
RetiredJordanStopper
06-07-2007, 10:22 AM
well, if SBP's program is in place, we could have a U20 Team formed right now with:
C - Greg "Sunshine" Slaughter 6'11, 19 y.o
PF - Gian Chiu 6'9 18 y.o
SF - Japeth Aguilar 6'9 19 y.o.
G - Joshua Webb 6'3 17 y.o.
PG - Michael Palarca 6'0 19 y.o.
monkeykong
06-07-2007, 02:39 PM
Don't worry guys, this is just the start of something big......
With or without championship in the coming Fiba-Asia 2007. New generation of tall filipinos are on its way. It is just a matter of time and we can compete with those big guys.
jramoyo
06-07-2007, 04:43 PM
shit! somebody should be training that guy quick...
ramonmagdalo
06-08-2007, 12:05 AM
well, if SBP's program is in place, we could have a U20 Team formed right now with:
C - Greg "Sunshine" Slaughter 6'11, 19 y.o
PF - Gian Chiu 6'9 18 y.o
SF - Japeth Aguilar 6'9 19 y.o.
G - Joshua Webb 6'3 17 y.o.
PG - Michael Palarca 6'0 19 y.o.
Joshua Webb and Michael Palarca-- where do they play? really good?
These guys would get even taller!
kerouac82
06-08-2007, 01:03 AM
Joshua Webb and Michael Palarca-- where do they play? really good?
These guys would get even taller!
Joshua Webb is playing for De La Salle-Zobel HS. My brother teaches English there and says he's really good. I doubt if he's 6'3", but he's at least 6'1" and has the Webb genes.
Michael Palarca will be playing for South Dakota State, a member of the NCAA Division I's Summit Conference. By the way, he's listed at 5'10", according to the SDSU fan website.
Dinamita
06-08-2007, 01:51 AM
damn he is BIG..
I hope he will turn out like SHAQ...:D
ramonmagdalo
06-08-2007, 02:43 AM
Joshua Webb is playing for De La Salle-Zobel HS. My brother teaches English there and says he's really good. I doubt if he's 6'3", but he's at least 6'1" and has the Webb genes.
Michael Palarca will be playing for South Dakota State, a member of the NCAA Division I's Summit Conference. By the way, he's listed at 5'10", according to the SDSU fan website.
Thanks for the info :)
DaveMap2007
06-08-2007, 12:57 PM
Well if Dino Berame their 6'7 bulky center which switch to Powerforward the University of Visayas will be a Match-up problem with 7'0 Slaughter at the Center............Is Jayford Rodriguez their High-Scoring Guard still has playing years remaining?......Other team will have a hard time with this.............................................. ....Slaughter looks like Hrabak I Hope he doesnt play like Hrabak thats a Big loss for us if he does.............................................. And At his Height in the US At least some Junior College/Community College could have offer him to play so his talent will be in question..........
watiwawa
06-08-2007, 02:35 PM
Well if Dino Berame their 6'7 bulky center which switch to Powerforward the University of Visayas will be a Match-up problem with 7'0 Slaughter at the Center............Is Jayford Rodriguez their High-Scoring Guard still has playing years remaining?......Other team will have a hard time with this.............................................. ....Slaughter looks like Hrabak I Hope he doesnt play like Hrabak thats a Big loss for us if he does.............................................. And At his Height in the US At least some Junior College/Community College could have offer him to play so his talent will be in question..........
hrabak is not a flop in his first year.... he's the nmber 1 overall pick of the 2001 draft that includes john arigo and mark caguioa...
i think injury slows him down....
yeah you're ryt if he's good he'll have us ncaa career.. but now in the us, 7'0 is now close to 6'9... other teams might pick smaller but more versatile players...
ramonmagdalo
06-09-2007, 01:47 AM
Well if Dino Berame their 6'7 bulky center which switch to Powerforward the University of Visayas will be a Match-up problem with 7'0 Slaughter at the Center............Is Jayford Rodriguez their High-Scoring Guard still has playing years remaining?......Other team will have a hard time with this.............................................. ....Slaughter looks like Hrabak I Hope he doesnt play like Hrabak thats a Big loss for us if he does.............................................. And At his Height in the US At least some Junior College/Community College could have offer him to play so his talent will be in question..........
I agree with you completely... if its patriotism its unusual... there are more than a hundred colleges and universities in the States, and countless other community schools... I fear he'd end up slow moving like EJ Feihl... Sana mali talaga ako!
princejunar
06-09-2007, 02:16 AM
Well if Dino Berame their 6'7 bulky center which switch to Powerforward the University of Visayas will be a Match-up problem with 7'0 Slaughter at the Center............Is Jayford Rodriguez their High-Scoring Guard still has playing years remaining?......Other team will have a hard time with this.............................................. ....Slaughter looks like Hrabak I Hope he doesnt play like Hrabak thats a Big loss for us if he does.............................................. And At his Height in the US At least some Junior College/Community College could have offer him to play so his talent will be in question..........
we're lucky if he plays like Hrabak, coz Hrabak is a perimeter shooter, we need a big guy who can shoot, not like Ej and Marlou, they specialty is to rebound and shoot only, they dont have a perimeter shot.:)
Sakamoto
06-09-2007, 12:03 PM
He is a legit 6'11 but we dont really know how he plays. There is a tendency that he might play like Andy Siegle or EJ Feihl( wag naman sana ) because base on what ive notice Flipinos whose height is 6'9 and above are really slow even though there was a cross breed of Caucasian. I haven't seen a Filipino whose height is 6'9 and above with a cross breed of black american.
onono1
06-09-2007, 01:37 PM
He is a legit 6'11 but we dont really know how he plays. There is a tendency that he might play like Andy Siegle or EJ Feihl( wag naman sana ) because base on what ive notice Flipinos whose height is 6'9 and above are really slow even though there was a cross breed of Caucasian. I haven't seen a Filipino whose height is 6'9 and above with a cross breed of black american.
I agree with you man, a fil-american whose father is white tend to be slow-footed and lacks agility. Thats what i was saying in this thread, if only 6-11 greg fuentes slaughter's father is black there is a tendency he might inherit the typical black-american's skills and athleticism as well as their quickness and agility.
onono1
06-09-2007, 01:57 PM
Hmmnnnn im just wondering with his height 6'11" tall, greg slaughter should be in US NCAA 2nd division school at least, or in a junior college where he could hone his basketball skills. It seems to me if gauging his appearance (its unfair of course) and his body shape, it is not remote he has the making of EJ FEIHL or JAMES WALKVIST but if he's fast learner or developer and naturally good he can be another ANDY SEIGLE or a better and stronger player hopefully.
francisu5
06-09-2007, 04:41 PM
The tallest FIL-AM with an african american heritage here in phil is Raffy Reavis. I thinks he's not included in the RP team coz he's injured or something Maybe he's about 6'6''-6'8''. I do hope we could get tall,athelic & strong fil-ams especially the one's with african american heritage.
Regarding Slaughter, im also wondering why he is here. Personally, I think basketball-wise its better for him to play in the states first.He'll be really trained there and he'll go against big men just like him. Look at what happens to big guys here especially the ones 6'8'' above. They've become slow and complacent coz they tower over everybody. I just hope Slaughter doesnt turn out to be a lemon.Anyways he's still young at has a lot of time to improve
DaveMap2007
06-09-2007, 05:11 PM
So many scouts in the US...during HS with his size AT LEAST a community college would have notice his talents....in reality i think his a mediocre typical white.....As for Japeth and Michael Palarca they were offered to play to NCAA schools just compare and a common sense his 6'11-7'0 NCAA college are in shortage of this size at least even Andy Seigle at 6'10 he was included on the New Orlean's reserve list.....Pray for me that im wrong........
DaveMap2007
06-09-2007, 06:23 PM
Virginia Commonwealth University pratice shirt??????.......i hope it was 6'10 Center Calvin Roland that came in his place..........or 6'5 guard jEsse pellet-rosa which has features of a fil-am(the face only hehehe)....but we have to make do of what we have
DaveMap2007
06-09-2007, 06:29 PM
JAmes Everley 6'6 Forward jersey no. 0 of VCU...........his the cousin of Jason richardson............Why is slaughter wearing that VCU shirt (maybe a avid fan)..?....By the way the tallest guy in the VCU roster is 6'10 Calvin Roland.......and Slaughter is 6'11......
SkyWalker
06-10-2007, 02:52 AM
from PEX
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x308/benjielyn/Gregory.jpg
note that his head almost touch the 7'0 foot clearance bar..he's legit
hey man, this is interesting. in this picture, he's seen wearing a VCU training uniform. FYI guys, VCU is a US NCAA div1 school, primarily in the same conference as Gabe Norwood's George Mason. But i checked on VCU's roster and he wasnt there. My theory is perhaps he may have been on the VCU training team or B team. And it will tell us how much training he has got from that school.
last march, VCU beat and eliminated Duke in the first round of the US NCAA tournament. cheers:)
SkyWalker
06-10-2007, 02:55 AM
Virginia Commonwealth University pratice shirt??????.......i hope it was 6'10 Center Calvin Roland that came in his place..........or 6'5 guard jEsse pellet-rosa which has features of a fil-am(the face only hehehe)....but we have to make do of what we have
yeah i was also wondering how and why in the hell he's wearing that. the guy is from virginia and perhaps played on VCU's training team or B team. :)
viperbravo
06-10-2007, 03:01 AM
Maybe this is guy belongs to the training team...he is only 19 years old, right?
onono1
06-10-2007, 03:17 AM
Maybe this is guy belongs to the training team...he is only 19 years old, right?
Maybe yes, maybe not. Reports said this 6-11 fil-am young fellow needs further development (5 years?!) because he's slow and lumbering (ala EJ Feihl?) on the floor. Blame it perhaps on his genes :p Being white cross-breed is slow and dont have power or muscle to dominate the game. ;) So if coach chot reyes is planning to take him in for our national squad, better think twice. Not ripe at this early........
watiwawa
06-10-2007, 04:18 AM
5 years training is enough... 2012 olympics is next....
DaveMap2007
06-10-2007, 05:40 PM
5 years training is enough... 2012 olympics is next....
EJ Feihl has been training for 15 years............:D
cool_ash_23
06-11-2007, 01:14 AM
VCU shirt? maybe Visayas Cebu University!:D Maybe he's not decided yet on which school he wants to join. University of Visayas or University of Cebu. hehehe!
Joking aside...:)
FilWelsh
06-11-2007, 01:23 AM
Bring in conditioning coach Kirk Collier of San Miguel Corp teams in PBA, this young Slaughter and Samigue Eman should undergo under his conditioning regime. . . few years ago, i recall if I'm not wrong he transformed Bonel Balingit's game. . . San Miguel should sponsor a program to develop this two beanpole and promising players. . .
Ronnie Aguilar
Ronnie Aguilar
Player Profile
Class:
Freshman
Hometown:
Los Angeles, Calif.
High School:
John Marshall
Height / Weight:
7-0 / 250
Position:
Center
Experience:
RS
2005-06: Redshirted in his first season with the Colorado State men's basketball team.
HIGH SCHOOL: Played basketball, volleyball and football at John Marshall High School in Los Angeles... Was named team MVP and was a two-time team captain for basketball... Earned three letters in volleyball and one in football as a wide receiver... Holds school records for blocked shots, points and rebounds and was an all-league and all-state performer... Led Barrister to the league championship in 2004.
PERSONAL: Born June 24, 1987 in Los Angeles, Calif... Son of Lilian Romero and Gabriel Agular... Has two brothers, Kivin and Jason, and one sister, Jasmine... Full name: Ronnie Aguilar.
LAYER ON AGUILAR
"He was slowed by in injury over the summer but has great potential. Ronnie can score on the block and has room to improve for a great future at Colorado State."
- I think he could help our bid in 2012
our starting five would be
C-Ronnie Aguilar 7'0"
PF- Japeth Agulilar 6'8"
SF- Gian Chiu 6'8"
SG- Kelly Williams 6'5"
PG- Gabe Norwood 6'5"
bench
Greg Slaughter- 6'10"
etc.
our U-21 team right now would be pretty good too.
C- Ronie Aguilar(Colorado State) 7'0"
PF-Japeth Aguilar(Western Kentucky) 6'8"
SF- Gian Chiu 6'7"
SG- Rey Parks(booby parks' son)
PG- Michael Palarca( signed with Div. 1 school) 5'10"
bench
Greg Slaughter(Universtiy of Cebu) 6'10"
14 year-old fil-new zealander whom julius nwosu said was good.
etc.
comments would be much appreciated
kerouac82
06-15-2007, 08:03 AM
Gian's too slow to play the 3 and has no outside shot to speak of. Japeth will be a better fit at that spot with his range and hops. WKU coach Darrin Horn has been making him shoot a hundred 3's during practice. BTW, he's 6'9" according to his family.
Gian's standing 208 cm (6'10") now, and will grow more. I hope he develops more hops and a more decent midrange shot in college.
Ronnie Aguilar, if he is indeed Pinoy, will be of great help. He might not be able to bang bodies that much (I'm banking on the Slaughter kid for this), but his shotblocking abilities will be of use to the NT cause.
Julius Nwosu was referring to a certain Joe Hooks, a former PBA import who claimed he had Pinoy blood. I don't think he'll be considered by Coach Chot due to the age factor.
apiSigbinz
06-15-2007, 09:36 AM
i'v seen this guy in one of UV's practice games... he has good perimeter shooting, has a decent vertical leap, strong and is mobile for a big man. in short, he has potential... he could play like Asi if given the right training...
Burndvinyard
06-15-2007, 09:58 AM
i'v seen this guy in one of UV's practice games... he has good perimeter shooting, has a decent vertical leap, strong and is mobile for a big man. in short, he has potential... he could play like Asi if given the right training...
i thought i read your post somewhere that you're here in manila. how come?:rolleyes:
apiSigbinz
06-15-2007, 10:02 AM
i thought i read your post somewhere that you're here in manila. how come?:rolleyes:
before you ask me that can you show me first that post? i'm pretty sure its not me.. i'm a certified CebuPacs..... :D
DaveMap2007
06-15-2007, 10:46 AM
Ronnie Aguilar
Ronnie Aguilar
Player Profile
Class:
Freshman
Hometown:
Los Angeles, Calif.
High School:
John Marshall
Height / Weight:
7-0 / 250
Position:
Center
Experience:
RS
2005-06: Redshirted in his first season with the Colorado State men's basketball team.
HIGH SCHOOL: Played basketball, volleyball and football at John Marshall High School in Los Angeles... Was named team MVP and was a two-time team captain for basketball... Earned three letters in volleyball and one in football as a wide receiver... Holds school records for blocked shots, points and rebounds and was an all-league and all-state performer... Led Barrister to the league championship in 2004.
PERSONAL: Born June 24, 1987 in Los Angeles, Calif... Son of Lilian Romero and Gabriel Agular... Has two brothers, Kivin and Jason, and one sister, Jasmine... Full name: Ronnie Aguilar.
LAYER ON AGUILAR
"He was slowed by in injury over the summer but has great potential. Ronnie can score on the block and has room to improve for a great future at Colorado State."
- I think he could help our bid in 2012
our starting five would be
C-Ronnie Aguilar 7'0"
PF- Japeth Agulilar 6'8"
SF- Gian Chiu 6'8"
SG- Kelly Williams 6'5"
PG- Gabe Norwood 6'5"
bench
Greg Slaughter- 6'10"
etc.
our U-21 team right now would be pretty good too.
C- Ronie Aguilar(Colorado State) 7'0"
PF-Japeth Aguilar(Western Kentucky) 6'8"
SF- Gian Chiu 6'7"
SG- Rey Parks(booby parks' son)
PG- Michael Palarca( signed with Div. 1 school) 5'10"
bench
Greg Slaughter(Universtiy of Cebu) 6'10"
14 year-old fil-new zealander whom julius nwosu said was good.
etc.
comments would be much appreciated
Ronnie Aguilar is not a filipino!!
Maybe his teammate at John Marshall who studied first in Holy Angel in Manila before going to the US
Wednesday, June 13, 2007
Taking in Slaughter
TWO teams from the Philippine Basketball League (PBL) and four squads from the Mindanao Visayas Basketball Association (MVBA) are set to test each other when the 2007 Talk ’N Text MVBA invitational tournament unfolds on June 24-28 at the Cebu Coliseum.
Existing MVBA squads, led by multi-titled M. Lhuillier Kwarta Padala, Arthro Kontra Arthritis, Holcim Pryce Pharma and Iligan Archangels, will test their skills against Burger Kings, Dazz Detergent of the PBL.
Pinoy Votes: Sun.Star Election 2007 Coverage
And with his lack in ceiling and a legitimate center, Jewelers coach Raul “Yayoy” Alcoseba is inviting 6-foot-11 Fil-Am sensation Greg Slaughter to join his team.
Answer
But University of the Visayas Green Lancer coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug had a different opinion.
According to Cabahug, Slaughter is not yet ready for a commercial tournament, since he is still 19 years old and needs to polish his skills a bit for the tough game in the commercial level.
“Games in the commercial tournaments are different from the collegiate ball game. Yes, we know that he has a huge potential, but he is not yet ready with the physical games in the commercial,” explained Cabahug.
New name
Slaughter, who made headlines recently, has not only caught the attention of the Cebu basketball leagues but in the nation’s capital as well.
“Maybe he doesn’t know this but he’s already a big name in Manila,” said BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio during the press conference.
After losing to Arthro during the MVBA Visayas Division championship, Alcoseba is now retooling his lineup and will possibly hire good and legitimate centers. (RCM)
i thought i read your post somewhere that you're here in manila. how come?:rolleyes:
:cool: Agree with api Did you Have sigbinz over there in Manila?
Dinamita
06-15-2007, 07:51 PM
Virginia Commonwealth University pratice shirt??????.......i hope it was 6'10 Center Calvin Roland that came in his place..........or 6'5 guard jEsse pellet-rosa which has features of a fil-am(the face only hehehe)....but we have to make do of what we have
from Greg's Friendster Profile...
#
More About Gregory
* College/University:
Virginia Commonwealth University, Attended 2006 - present, Class of 2010, Bachelor's Degree, Accounting
* Hobbies and Interests:
basketball
* Favorite Movies:
city of god, shawshank redemption
* Favorite Music:
Smashing pumpkins, justin timberlake, lil wayne, nirvana, T.I. just to name a few
* Favorite TV Shows:
NBA
* Zodiac Sign:
Taurus
Looks like he did practice with the VCU... probably a walk in?... Cant keep with the team and got boot out so he decided to play here in the phils?..I asked him where he played HS basketball but he never replied....
dreamwalker
06-16-2007, 12:15 AM
Bring in conditioning coach Kirk Collier of San Miguel Corp teams in PBA, this young Slaughter and Samigue Eman should undergo under his conditioning regime. . . few years ago, i recall if I'm not wrong he transformed Bonel Balingit's game. . . San Miguel should sponsor a program to develop this two beanpole and promising players. . .
Good idea, make the PBA in cooperation with the other stakeholders help out, this might be the next big thing for the NT or better still give a valuable incentive to basketball agents to look for ball players with Filipino roots abroad.
Bianca
06-16-2007, 04:15 AM
gregory slaughter
joel23
06-16-2007, 04:45 AM
Wednesday, June 13, 2007
Taking in Slaughter
TWO teams from the Philippine Basketball League (PBL) and four squads from the Mindanao Visayas Basketball Association (MVBA) are set to test each other when the 2007 Talk ’N Text MVBA invitational tournament unfolds on June 24-28 at the Cebu Coliseum.
Existing MVBA squads, led by multi-titled M. Lhuillier Kwarta Padala, Arthro Kontra Arthritis, Holcim Pryce Pharma and Iligan Archangels, will test their skills against Burger Kings, Dazz Detergent of the PBL.
Pinoy Votes: Sun.Star Election 2007 Coverage
And with his lack in ceiling and a legitimate center, Jewelers coach Raul “Yayoy” Alcoseba is inviting 6-foot-11 Fil-Am sensation Greg Slaughter to join his team.
Answer
But University of the Visayas Green Lancer coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug had a different opinion.
According to Cabahug, Slaughter is not yet ready for a commercial tournament, since he is still 19 years old and needs to polish his skills a bit for the tough game in the commercial level.
“Games in the commercial tournaments are different from the collegiate ball game. Yes, we know that he has a huge potential, but he is not yet ready with the physical games in the commercial,” explained Cabahug.
New name
Slaughter, who made headlines recently, has not only caught the attention of the Cebu basketball leagues but in the nation’s capital as well.
“Maybe he doesn’t know this but he’s already a big name in Manila,” said BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio during the press conference.
After losing to Arthro during the MVBA Visayas Division championship, Alcoseba is now retooling his lineup and will possibly hire good and legitimate centers. (RCM)
Dapat nga sana idiretso na kaagad sa PBA kasi hindi siya matuto sa commercial league... Dapat Alisin ni Commisioner Noli Eala ang age limit... Hindi naman kailangan ng age limit ay 21 or 23... sa China, Euro at NBA hindi na sila nag agelimit kaya nadedevelop mga youngsters... Saka dapat after 2nd year college degree can play in the PBA...
really? my bad... thought he was japeth's brother... i'm deeply sorry for misinforming and giving people hope on that 7 footer... i do think that our Youth team never looked brighter! with Rey Parks, Gian Chiu, Japeth Aguilar, Michael Palarca, Greg Slaughter, etc...
Grayson
06-16-2007, 06:53 PM
Greg Slaughter was not booted from the VCU team since he never played for or practiced with the VCU team. There were no walk-ons or even try-outs at VCU last year.
Question please. My friend told me that there is a height limit for non-Philippine citizen players (imports), is this true? Also, To be considered a Fil-Am and so eligible to play anywhere in the Philippines does one have to be a citizen or just show a Philippine parent or grandparent.
elgemeister
06-16-2007, 07:13 PM
Greg Slaughter was not booted from the VCU team since he never played for or practiced with the VCU team. There were no walk-ons or even try-outs at VCU last year.
Question please. My friend told me that there is a height limit for non-Philippine citizen players (imports), is this true? Also, To be considered a Fil-Am and so eligible to play anywhere in the Philippines does one have to be a citizen or just show a Philippine parent or grandparent.
It is true that Non-Filipino Citizen players or Imports have height limit but that depends on the conference season in the PBA (Philippine Basketball Association). As a matter of fact, the Imports playing in the current PBA Fiesta Conference has a height limit of no more than 6'6".
Also, to be considered as an eligible Fil-Am to play in the Philippines, one should be able to provide documents of his Filipino lineage. Let's take for example Gabe Norwood's case, his Grandmother and Grandfather was born and was citizens of the Philippines. I suggest you read the threads about Gabe Norwood in this forum and you will find answers about eligibility issues. Hope this will help...
Cheers! ;)
Dinamita
06-16-2007, 10:05 PM
Greg Slaughter was not booted from the VCU team since he never played for or practiced with the VCU team. There were no walk-ons or even try-outs at VCU last year.
Question please. My friend told me that there is a height limit for non-Philippine citizen players (imports), is this true? Also, To be considered a Fil-Am and so eligible to play anywhere in the Philippines does one have to be a citizen or just show a Philippine parent or grandparent.
FYI..
Greg Slaughter Finally answered my questions... this is exactly what I asked and what he answered...
My message to him:
hi, I just wanna ask if where did you play highschool basketball? I played HS basketball in Centreville...a town in Fairfax county.. northern Va... I heard u will be playing in Univ of Visayas... Thats good... Goodluck... I hope you will represent RP natioanal team too...BTW, how come you didnt try to play in any DIVISION ONE Schools here in US?... VCU? GMU? VA TECH? UV? those are good schools in VA...
His Reply:
I went to high school in massaponax... then went to vcu they were saying i was gonna play for them but then they got a new coach from florida and he just loaded the team with people he knew from florida all the players wanted me to play and i was ready but then they never had a tryout so there was no way i could get on the team.. i know a guy named mark narvacan he went to school with me in vcu we balled alot he was pretty decent i think he played for centerville also.
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I know mark narvacan and I asked him about it... He told me everything is true... so this kid is really a Division 1 caliber... too bad the coach doesnt want youngin playin in his team...
Bianca
06-17-2007, 12:20 AM
FYI..
Greg Slaughter Finally answered my questions... this is exactly what I asked and what he answered...
My message to him:
hi, I just wanna ask if where did you play highschool basketball? I played HS basketball in Centreville...a town in Fairfax county.. northern Va... I heard u will be playing in Univ of Visayas... Thats good... Goodluck... I hope you will represent RP natioanal team too...BTW, how come you didnt try to play in any DIVISION ONE Schools here in US?... VCU? GMU? VA TECH? UV? those are good schools in VA...
His Reply:
I went to high school in massaponax... then went to vcu they were saying i was gonna play for them but then they got a new coach from florida and he just loaded the team with people he knew from florida all the players wanted me to play and i was ready but then they never had a tryout so there was no way i could get on the team.. i know a guy named mark narvacan he went to school with me in vcu we balled alot he was pretty decent i think he played for centerville also.
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I know mark narvacan and I asked him about it... He told me everything is true... so this kid is really a Division 1 caliber... too bad the coach doesnt want youngin playin in his team...
Is mark narvacan is also a player?in what university?
Dinamita
06-17-2007, 12:28 AM
he goes to vcu... I dont think he plays at VCU... he was a varsity back in Highschool... same school as mine... I graduated before him tho...:)
Bianca
06-17-2007, 08:59 AM
he goes to vcu... I dont think he plays at VCU... he was a varsity back in Highschool... same school as mine... I graduated before him tho...:)
Are you also from VCU?or you mean another school in high school?
pachador
06-19-2007, 06:09 AM
In visayas , we use the words matadero or matanzahan(from the spanish root word matanza) for slaugterhouse, and yes, matador for Bullfighter or slaughterhouse guy. Greg Slaughter will be a future poster boy for "Gran Matador" brandy . Hopefully , Ramon "El Presidente" Fernandez will find a worthy succesor in Gregorio "El Matador" Slaughter ,and here's a song in honor of Gregorio "El Matador" Slaughter. It has got a beat that jives with Cebu's Sinulog Mardi Gras festival. Click the link below to see the video of the song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPNX9BL5v1w
DARZ wrote:
my point here is let the kid feel the game in a very high level like playing him besides the best of RP basketball in an international tourney....and lets accept the fact that we need a tall but agile bigman who can ran the floor...as what i've heard here in cebu that he's fond of playing the 3 spot rather than 4-5....Just for experience sakeYou have a valid point bro, and I know we all want our best for Team Pilipinas. But I think sacrificing 1 roster spot just for "experience sake" of a player is very ill-advised at this point.
For example, if Asi or Mick get's injured (knock on wood) during the tourney, then we will have a major problem with our depth in the 5 position. If we indeed had "Matador" Slaughter as our twelfth man, (hey remember, you heard that nickname from me first!), Coach chot will be forced to adjust our style of play in mid-tournament beccause I believe Greg will be too raw to play in crucial games anyway.
And remember, every game in the FIBA-Asia is crucial.
Let "Matador" prove himself and develop in the amateur leagues first. If he needs to bang with the big boys, put him in the training pool so he can learn from Asi and the other guys, but not in the actual line-up.[/quote][/quote]
from: Pacland forum
thayil
06-19-2007, 06:52 AM
what i've heard here in cebu that he's fond of playing the 3 spot rather than 4-5....
wow 3? when Andy Seigle came here he said that back in New Orleans he plays 3 (small Forward) ? hmmmmm
I say amen to that pachador.
rasputin
06-22-2007, 03:20 AM
Maybe we should let Slaughter and other tall homegrown hopefuls play in the coming SEA games.:)
Wednesday, June 13, 2007
Taking in Slaughter
TWO teams from the Philippine Basketball League (PBL) and four squads from the Mindanao Visayas Basketball Association (MVBA) are set to test each other when the 2007 Talk ’N Text MVBA invitational tournament unfolds on June 24-28 at the Cebu Coliseum.
Existing MVBA squads, led by multi-titled M. Lhuillier Kwarta Padala, Arthro Kontra Arthritis, Holcim Pryce Pharma and Iligan Archangels, will test their skills against Burger Kings, Dazz Detergent of the PBL.
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And with his lack in ceiling and a legitimate center, Jewelers coach Raul “Yayoy” Alcoseba is inviting 6-foot-11 Fil-Am sensation Greg Slaughter to join his team.
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But University of the Visayas Green Lancer coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug had a different opinion.
According to Cabahug, Slaughter is not yet ready for a commercial tournament, since he is still 19 years old and needs to polish his skills a bit for the tough game in the commercial level.
“Games in the commercial tournaments are different from the collegiate ball game. Yes, we know that he has a huge potential, but he is not yet ready with the physical games in the commercial,” explained Cabahug.
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Slaughter, who made headlines recently, has not only caught the attention of the Cebu basketball leagues but in the nation’s capital as well.
“Maybe he doesn’t know this but he’s already a big name in Manila,” said BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio during the press conference.
After losing to Arthro during the MVBA Visayas Division championship, Alcoseba is now retooling his lineup and will possibly hire good and legitimate centers. (RCM)
It's been a long time since i visited this forum, to tell you frankly i'm kind of frustrated that our national team has been lagging behind compared to other asian countries but when i heard about gregory slaughter i decided to visit this forum again to get some info about this kid. i just hope he would turn out to be the one we filipinos had been waiting for such a long long time.
Maybe we should let Slaughter and other tall homegrown hopefuls play in the coming SEA games.:)
Good idea! Start them young so that they'll be used to play in international competition.:)
bolabasket
06-22-2007, 04:04 AM
Good idea! Start them young so that they'll be used to play in international competition.:)
Has anyone seen Slaughter play? Is he really good as advertized or maybe just a marketing gimmick so the stakes go high? Remember Mike Hrabak? He landed No. 2 in the PBA draft due to rumors...look at him now.
mark n.
06-22-2007, 05:31 AM
FYI..
Greg Slaughter Finally answered my questions... this is exactly what I asked and what he answered...
My message to him:
hi, I just wanna ask if where did you play highschool basketball? I played HS basketball in Centreville...a town in Fairfax county.. northern Va... I heard u will be playing in Univ of Visayas... Thats good... Goodluck... I hope you will represent RP natioanal team too...BTW, how come you didnt try to play in any DIVISION ONE Schools here in US?... VCU? GMU? VA TECH? UV? those are good schools in VA...
His Reply:
I went to high school in massaponax... then went to vcu they were saying i was gonna play for them but then they got a new coach from florida and he just loaded the team with people he knew from florida all the players wanted me to play and i was ready but then they never had a tryout so there was no way i could get on the team.. i know a guy named mark narvacan he went to school with me in vcu we balled alot he was pretty decent i think he played for centerville also.
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I know mark narvacan and I asked him about it... He told me everything is true... so this kid is really a Division 1 caliber... too bad the coach doesnt want youngin playin in his team...
this is mark narvacan
i dont think ive ever talked to you
no one ever asked me about greg
and i do still talk to him on the regular.
not trying to blow up your spot
i just wanna know who you are.
you can ask me any questions to prove to you that i am Mark.
heres the truth:
me and greg played intramurals at VCU
but we played together almost every night for pick up games.
we never played on the vcu team
he did play on the club basketball team though
which i (and most of the school) didnt pay attention to (mostly b/c i hate the style they play, and most people there would agree)
my opinion:
greg's a beast down low.
post moves are good, but still need to be polished.
and most of time, he does take his time in reading the defense.
so he's patient.
his intramural team never really played him much.
but in pick up games, he would straight up dominate.
he can hit the 10-15 foot jumper, i'd say, about 50-60% of the time
mostly b/c most people aren't tall enough to contest his shot.
some times, he easily penetrates from the perimeter because of his long legs and intimidating figure. (some people just let him go b/c theyre too scared LOL)
overall, i think he's gonna be fine...im glad he went to school to play ball in the PI to polish his game even more...he didnt really have a "real" coach back here in the states, so this is really good for him and i wish him best of luck.
this is mark narvacan
i dont think ive ever talked to you
no one ever asked me about greg
and i do still talk to him on the regular.
not trying to blow up your spot
i just wanna know who you are.
you can ask me any questions to prove to you that i am Mark.
heres the truth:
me and greg played intramurals at VCU
but we played together almost every night for pick up games.
we never played on the vcu team
he did play on the club basketball team though
which i (and most of the school) didnt pay attention to (mostly b/c i hate the style they play, and most people there would agree)
my opinion:
greg's a beast down low.
post moves are good, but still need to be polished.
and most of time, he does take his time in reading the defense.
so he's patient.
his intramural team never really played him much.
but in pick up games, he would straight up dominate.
he can hit the 10-15 foot jumper, i'd say, about 50-60% of the time
mostly b/c most people aren't tall enough to contest his shot.
some times, he easily penetrates from the perimeter because of his long legs and intimidating figure. (some people just let him go b/c theyre too scared LOL)
overall, i think he's gonna be fine...im glad he went to school to play ball in the PI to polish his game even more...he didnt really have a "real" coach back here in the states, so this is really good for him and i wish him best of luck.
Thanks for the info mark, If your info is accurate, then maybe greg is the one we Filipinos had been waiting for.:D
Has anyone seen Slaughter play? Is he really good as advertized or maybe just a marketing gimmick so the stakes go high? Remember Mike Hrabak? He landed No. 2 in the PBA draft due to rumors...look at him now.
We'll all know when the games starts in cebu.
joel23
06-24-2007, 03:15 PM
I hope Greg have a great attitude, always not going to night clubs or gimmick everytime... Mostly all Fil-Ams went to the nightclub are Ali Peek, Jay Washington, Erik Menk, Harvey Carey etc.. And then tomorrow they went to basketball practice,,,,, Damn conditioning!!!
bolabasket
06-25-2007, 12:53 AM
mr sandag
I hope Greg have a great attitude, always not going to night clubs or gimmick everytime... Mostly all Fil-Ams went to the nightclub are Ali Peek, Jay Washington, Erik Menk, Harvey Carey etc.. And then tomorrow they went to basketball practice,,,,, Damn conditioning!!!
Shit! No wonder coach reyes didn't choose them for the National Team.:mad:
bolabasket
06-25-2007, 09:27 AM
SBP mulls regional training centers
By Jasmine W. Payo, Inquirer
June 25, 2007
The Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas turns its attention to Visayas and Mindanao as the national program for the men, women and youth teams begins to roll out this month.
"A plan is in place to put up the first ever training center in the Visayas and Mindanao for potential men and women athletes," BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio said Sunday.
"We're introducing a national program for the age groups for the men and women basketball teams. We're identifying regional heads who will spearhead the development of the youth teams in the Visayas and Mindanao."
And this early, among the early projects eyed for the youth program is 19-year-old Gregory Fuentes-Slaughter, a 6-foot-11 Fil-American rookie from the University of the Visayas.
"He's young and will train under Mon Fernandez for the youth team; he's too young for the SEA [Southeast Asian] Games," said national coach Junel Baculi.
Fritz Gaston, the head coach of Ateneo's UAAP championship run in 1988, will be Baculi's counterpart in the SEAG women's competition.
Gregorio said Fernandez, the four-time PBA Most Valuable Player now based in Cebu, will be among the key personalities in the development of the national program in the southern region.
http://www.surfshop.net.ph/pba2/news.asp?dt=6%2F25%2F2007&ar=4
LOTRfan
06-26-2007, 09:59 PM
Hi, I stumbled upon this article and found it interesting. I went to the same high school as Greg and not trying to put him down or anything, i'm pretty shocked he is already being considered a God of basketball in a way on these forums. He never really started that many games at our high school games and he never played in the games for very long either. He did seem to have good work down-low but he rarley ever took shots. I don't believe he was recruited by any school within the United States either, not even D-III schools. Yet again, maybe I could be wrong but im pretty sure he wasnt recruited by anyone. Anyway, I haven't seen him play since we graduated from high school last year so i'm sure he has gotten a lot better if he is being recruited like this overseas. I wish him the best and hope he improves
ctongco
06-26-2007, 11:49 PM
Hi, I stumbled upon this article and found it interesting. I went to the same high school as Greg and not trying to put him down or anything, i'm pretty shocked he is already being considered a God of basketball in a way on these forums. He never really started that many games at our high school games and he never played in the games for very long either. He did seem to have good work down-low but he rarley ever took shots. I don't believe he was recruited by any school within the United States either, not even D-III schools. Yet again, maybe I could be wrong but im pretty sure he wasnt recruited by anyone. Anyway, I haven't seen him play since we graduated from high school last year so i'm sure he has gotten a lot better if he is being recruited like this overseas. I wish him the best and hope he improves
Not really a "Basketball god", but more of a potential for our National Team. It is rare for a Filipino to be as big as he is and with training, I hope he becomes good. It was clear that he is not that good (atleast for the moment) as no NCAA school ever got interested in him. I just hope he becomes an excellent player.
pachador
06-26-2007, 11:57 PM
the important thing is that his fine and gross motor skills are at least normal, and his running time is decent and so forth. basketball skills can be taught by repetition.
Not really a "Basketball god", but more of a potential for our National Team. It is rare for a Filipino to be as big as he is and with training, I hope he becomes good. It was clear that he is not that good (atleast for the moment) as no NCAA school ever got interested in him. I just hope he becomes an excellent player.
ctongco
06-27-2007, 12:02 AM
the important thing is that his fine and gross motor skills are at least normal, and his running time is decent and so forth. basketball skills can be taught by repetition.
Also, let's hope that he has good work ethic and is a hard worker.
bolabasket
06-27-2007, 01:22 AM
Also, let's hope that he has good work ethic and is a hard worker.
Would anyone in this forum know when UV plays for the first time (in a tournament) with Slaughter in its line-up? Hope someone covers the game and make initial comment.
onono1
06-27-2007, 02:40 AM
Not really a "Basketball god", but more of a potential for our National Team. It is rare for a Filipino to be as big as he is and with training, I hope he becomes good. It was clear that he is not that good (atleast for the moment) as no NCAA school ever got interested in him. I just hope he becomes an excellent player.
Exactly, its the Height Factor the reason Greg Slaughter attracts huge attention from media and basketball forums alike...Let him play first in a tournament to see if the guy has potential to make it big, and if his value will get higher...
bognut
06-27-2007, 02:53 AM
Exactly, its the Height Factor the reason Greg Slaughter attracts huge attention from media and basketball forums alike...Let him play first in a tournament to see if the guy has potential to make it big, and if his value will get higher...
if slaughter will do well in UV. then expect him to jump to UAAP or NCAA. :D
maybe lasalle ateneo or san beda.
onono1
06-27-2007, 03:03 AM
SBP mulls regional training centers
By Jasmine W. Payo, Inquirer
June 25, 2007
The Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas turns its attention to Visayas and Mindanao as the national program for the men, women and youth teams begins to roll out this month.
"A plan is in place to put up the first ever training center in the Visayas and Mindanao for potential men and women athletes," BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio said Sunday.
"We're introducing a national program for the age groups for the men and women basketball teams. We're identifying regional heads who will spearhead the development of the youth teams in the Visayas and Mindanao."
And this early, among the early projects eyed for the youth program is 19-year-old Gregory Fuentes-Slaughter, a 6-foot-11 Fil-American rookie from the University of the Visayas.
"He's young and will train under Mon Fernandez for the youth team; he's too young for the SEA [Southeast Asian] Games," said national coach Junel Baculi. Fritz Gaston, the head coach of Ateneo's UAAP championship run in 1988, will be Baculi's counterpart in the SEAG women's competition.
Gregorio said Fernandez, the four-time PBA Most Valuable Player now based in Cebu, will be among the key personalities in the development of the national program in the southern region.
http://www.surfshop.net.ph/pba2/news.asp?dt=6%2F25%2F2007&ar=4
Guys if you read comment like this from a basketball official "He's young and will train under Mon Fernandez for the youth team; he's too young for the SEA [Southeast Asian] Games," said national coach Junel Baculi.. The first thing in your mind is 6-11 (6 ft. 9?) slaughter's skills and ability to play ball is below-par. We have many young local players, as young as greg slaughter who had played in SEA GAMES before and thats because these cagers have at least the talent and capability to compete in a tournament like seagames. I hope this 6-11 fil-am is better than EJ Feihl at this moment he's training in cebu :rolleyes:
kerouac82
06-27-2007, 03:56 AM
Guys if you read comment like this from a basketball official "He's young and will train under Mon Fernandez for the youth team; he's too young for the SEA [Southeast Asian] Games," said national coach Junel Baculi.. The first thing in your mind is 6-11 (6 ft. 9?) slaughter's skills and ability to play ball is below-par. We have many young local players, as young as greg slaughter who had played in SEA GAMES before and thats because these cagers have at least the talent and capability to compete in a tournament like seagames. I hope this 6-11 fil-am is better than EJ Feihl at this moment he's training in cebu :rolleyes:
There you go again.
Greg Slaughter is 19 years old, for crying out loud! If you looked at the 2003 SEA Games lineup, most of the players were in the early 20's, like Rich Alvarez and Marc Pingris and Ranidel de Ocampo (James Yap was an exception) and have had at least a year of PBL experience. Slaughter is 19 years old and has not even started to play college ball, so please cut him (and the rest of the young ones) some slack!
BTW, EJ Feihl was a solid player in high school and college, even developing a decent jump hook. It was in the pros that he began to suck.
Grayson
06-27-2007, 05:19 AM
Hi, I stumbled upon this article and found it interesting. I went to the same high school as Greg and not trying to put him down or anything, i'm pretty shocked he is already being considered a God of basketball in a way on these forums. He never really started that many games at our high school games and he never played in the games for very long either. He did seem to have good work down-low but he rarley ever took shots. I don't believe he was recruited by any school within the United States either, not even D-III schools. Yet again, maybe I could be wrong but im pretty sure he wasnt recruited by anyone. Anyway, I haven't seen him play since we graduated from high school last year so i'm sure he has gotten a lot better if he is being recruited like this overseas. I wish him the best and hope he improves
I predict that Gregory Slaughter will blossom in the PI. The training and coaching in Cebu at The University Of The Visayes will be, by very far, the best he has ever experienced. I think his defensive game is already very strong and it will get much stronger as his ability to improve in stategy, stamina and tactics is realized. In a nutshell, Mr Slaughter is now an awsome strong figure on the court and he can play well, but the room that he has to improve is vast. I believe it is only a matter of time and effort now. As for D-III schools in the USA, he would have been accepted with open arms at any of them.
rhk111
06-27-2007, 05:38 AM
I think 19 is a good age for a really talented basketball player to blossom. Some players are able to dominate right away, even on their first years in college.
A good example of this, would be Jervy Cruz of UST, & Junmar Fajardo of UC. Jervy on his rookie year in the UAAP was able to establish his presence right away, while the 17-year old Junmar is already able to keep in step w/ veteran Centers in the Cebu leagues like Rino Berame.
As for Slaughter, I don have a bit of a concern why Cabahug & Baculi seems to be a bit shy in showing off how he plays in an actual game. It just seems to me that they are trying to delay as much as possible his debut in an actual Philippine game.
This for me sorts of points to the fact that Slaughter might not really be that talented, or still too raw at this stage in his basketball career.
I could be wrong, I hope I am, but we'll see whether he's really that good, or that bad once he starts playing competitively.
kerouac82
06-27-2007, 06:05 AM
I think 19 is a good age for a really talented basketball player to blossom. Some players are able to dominate right away, even on their first years in college.
A good example of this, would be Jervy Cruz of UST, & Junmar Fajardo of UC. Jervy on his rookie year in the UAAP was able to establish his presence right away, while the 17-year old Junmar is already able to keep in step w/ veteran Centers in the Cebu leagues like Rino Berame.
As for Slaughter, I don have a bit of a concern why Cabahug & Baculi seems to be a bit shy in showing off how he plays in an actual game. It just seems to me that they are trying to delay as much as possible his debut in an actual Philippine game.
This for me sorts of points to the fact that Slaughter might not really be that talented, or still too raw at this stage in his basketball career.
I could be wrong, I hope I am, but we'll see whether he's really that good, or that bad once he starts playing competitively.
Question: Is Berame still eligible to play for UV this year? If he is, I wonder how Cabahug will fit Slaughter into his rotation. My guess is that Berame will be doing spot duty at the 4 spot whenever Slaughter is inside.
onono1
06-27-2007, 06:11 AM
There you go again.
Greg Slaughter is 19 years old, for crying out loud! If you looked at the 2003 SEA Games lineup, most of the players were in the early 20's, like Rich Alvarez and Marc Pingris and Ranidel de Ocampo (James Yap was an exception) and have had at least a year of PBL experience. Slaughter is 19 years old and has not even started to play college ball, so please cut him (and the rest of the young ones) some slack!
BTW, EJ Feihl was a solid player in high school and college, even developing a decent jump hook. It was in the pros that he began to suck.
Oh my, you sound hurt jonar and i dont want to be mean.. I was referring to players like marlou aquino, dennis espino, jun limpot, etc.. who played in SEAGAMES during their college days too...Some greg slaughter apologists would not admit but like the gian chiu brouhaha, it is media-hype that catapults them into forum limelight like this, claiming "this towering fil-am is really good, has the talent, he's quick and mobile for his height, etc" But the big thing is, he only got size :D It needs to polish his skills, strength, conditioning and so on for how many years to come. EJ FEIHL was a solid basketball player during his high school and college days??? Tell that to the marines sir :D :D
kerouac82
06-27-2007, 06:54 AM
Oh my, you sound hurt jonar and i dont want to be mean.. I was referring to players like marlou aquino, dennis espino, jun limpot, etc.. who played in SEAGAMES during their college days too...Some greg slaughter apologists would not admit but like the gian chiu brouhaha, it is media-hype that catapults them into forum limelight like this, claiming "this towering fil-am is really good, has the talent, he's quick and mobile for his height, etc" But the big thing is, he only got size :D It needs to polish his skills, strength, conditioning and so on for how many years to come. EJ FEIHL was a solid basketball player during his high school and college days??? Tell that to the marines sir :D :D
Hurt? Not at all. I just noticed that you tend to diss players whom you haven't seen in action. Have you been to Desert Christian or Oberlin College? Have you talked to Gian's coach like I suggested a few posts back? I suggest that you do. Maybe he saw something in Gian that you missed out on. Ditto with Elmer Cabahug and Slaughter.
All I was saying is you should cut these guys some slack. They're still young. And yes, they need polishing. No argument on that. And I myself am not even saying that they're SEA Games material -- they are too young and as a rule of thumb, SEA Games slots are given to those who have played and proven themselves in the PBL.
Marlou Aquino, if I remember correctly, wasn't exactly 19 years old when he played in the SEA Games. EJ Feihl wasn't outstanding either. Just "solid". And there is a world of difference between "outstanding" and "solid". He didn't run the floor well, but had a decent jump hook and drop-step in HS. AdU had a solid frontline then anchored not just on Marlou Aquino, but on Giovanni Pineda and EJ Feihl as well, although it was Duremdes who led the Falcons to the finals against UST.
Jun Limpot... Well, that's another story. He was a center-size guy who played some small forward and had dribbling skills, and players like that don't come around everyday. Perhaps Slaughter can develop into that kind of player, perhaps not. But let's give him (and the others) time. These guys won't be called to action until 2009 or 2011 anyway.
rhk111
06-27-2007, 07:07 AM
Hi, I stumbled upon this article and found it interesting. I went to the same high school as Greg and not trying to put him down or anything, i'm pretty shocked he is already being considered a God of basketball in a way on these forums. He never really started that many games at our high school games and he never played in the games for very long either. He did seem to have good work down-low but he rarley ever took shots. I don't believe he was recruited by any school within the United States either, not even D-III schools. Yet again, maybe I could be wrong but im pretty sure he wasnt recruited by anyone. Anyway, I haven't seen him play since we graduated from high school last year so i'm sure he has gotten a lot better if he is being recruited like this overseas. I wish him the best and hope he improves
Am beginning to think this is really the case. First, there were questions as to why a 6'11" player did not receive multiple offers from Div. 1, 2 & 3 schools in the US.
Second, the coaching staff's reluctance to show him off in an actual, public game. A consistent phrase we hear from Cabahug & Baculi is that, "..... he's too young ....", "..... he's not yet ready .....". I think this translates to: "He's really not that good yet, we're hoping he will be".
If that is the case, then I some doubts he will eventually develop into a respectable Center at the PBA-level. I think he's likely going to end up as just another EJ Feihl.
Question: Is Berame still eligible to play for UV this year? If he is, I wonder how Cabahug will fit Slaughter into his rotation. My guess is that Berame will be doing spot duty at the 4 spot whenever Slaughter is inside.
Sorry, I don't know at this point. Will try to look around.
EJ Feihl or not, if Slaughter & Berame gets to play alongside each other, they should be able to dominate the collegiate league there in Cebu.
kerouac82
06-27-2007, 07:12 AM
I think 19 is a good age for a really talented basketball player to blossom. Some players are able to dominate right away, even on their first years in college.
A good example of this, would be Jervy Cruz of UST, & Junmar Fajardo of UC. Jervy on his rookie year in the UAAP was able to establish his presence right away, while the 17-year old Junmar is already able to keep in step w/ veteran Centers in the Cebu leagues like Rino Berame.
Jervy Cruz, strictly speaking, was not a rookie last year. He was in his third year of college then. He had to sit out a year due to UAAP rules concerning transferees.
I've heard of this Junmar Fajardo kid. Haven't seen him play yet, but from what I've read in the papers lately, this kid can score although he's a bit thin for his 6'9" height.
BTW, I plan to catch a couple of CESAFI games when I go on vacation in Cebu in a few months. No, I'm not Cebuano, but I've been raring to see what the Berame and Fajardo buzz is all about. And maybe catch some off-summer sun in a Mactan beach too. :D
Edited to add:
My bad. Fajardo won't be playing this season... :(
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/06/07/sports/cesafi.nothing.wrong.with.uv.s.actions.html
demonyito
06-27-2007, 07:47 AM
well ive been hearing a lot of them too. since the days of the Gamboas to De Ocampos and now the Fajardos, the Chius&more tall Fil-Chinese prospects..
to this day im still waiting if they gonna be as good as advertise, in playing international basketball. i dont want to lose hope but its a fact that pure breed pinoy centers hardly held their own againts big boys in Asia alone. and im wondering what will happen when the playing days of Asi Taulava is over.....who will fill the big hole?
rhk111
06-27-2007, 08:00 AM
Here are a couple of old news items I found w/ news about this Fajardo kid:
- Metro Gaisano Dumps Arthro, 103-91 (Feb. 14, 2007 - Sunstar Daily Web Article) (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/02/14/sports/metro.gaisano.dumps.arthro.103.91.html)
- UC Debunks UV Myth (Feb. 20, 2007 - Sunstar Daily Web Article) (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/02/20/sports/uc.debunks.uv.myth.html)
Onizuka01
06-27-2007, 09:38 AM
I've heard of this Junmar Fajardo kid. Haven't seen him play yet, but from what I've read in the papers lately, this kid can score although he's a bit thin for his 6'9" height.
BTW, I plan to catch a couple of CESAFI games when I go on vacation in Cebu in a few months. No, I'm not Cebuano, but I've been raring to see what the Berame and Fajardo buzz is all about. And maybe catch some off-summer sun in a Mactan beach too. :D
Edited to add:
My bad. Fajardo won't be playing this season... :(
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/06/07/sports/cesafi.nothing.wrong.with.uv.s.actions.html
Berame is on his senior year for UV now.. while Junmar Fajardo for his rookie year in UC.. i saw junmar plays months ago, though he's thin that time, he bang bodies with the veterans 6'7 Berame of UV w/c UC won.. too bad though Junmar plays center for UC, i really think UC should train him more on small forward spot since junmar is a bit agile, yet he need to add some more weights and more training though he's still very young at 17 now standing 6'8. Hope they do make him SF/PF.
And now im looking forward watching CESAFI as they open their season this year.. i havent seen Greg Slaughter play yet,but i'll check on that as soon as i can .. possibly post videos of their games at youtube..
BTW, i'm also from UC, same school of junmar.
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/03/10/sports/uc.barges.into.quarterfinals..html
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/03/12/sports/uc.usj.r.in.partner.s.cup.semis.html
kerouac82
06-27-2007, 10:06 AM
Berame is on his senior year for UV now.. while Junmar Fajardo for his rookie year in UC.. i saw junmar plays months ago, though he's thin that time, he bang bodies with the veterans 6'7 Berame of UV w/c UC won.. too bad though Junmar plays center for UC, i really think UC should train him more on small forward spot since junmar is a bit agile, yet he need to add some more weights and more training though he's still very young at 17 now standing 6'8. Hope they do make him SF/PF.
And now im looking forward watching CESAFI as they open their season this year.. i havent seen Greg Slaughter play yet,but i'll check on that as soon as i can .. possibly post videos of their games at youtube..
BTW, i'm also from UC, same school of junmar.
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/03/10/sports/uc.barges.into.quarterfinals..html
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/03/12/sports/uc.usj.r.in.partner.s.cup.semis.html
Is it true that UC was keen on getting Slaughter because Fajardo is injured?
rhk111
06-27-2007, 10:45 AM
Berame is on his senior year for UV now.. while Junmar Fajardo for his rookie year in UC.. i saw junmar plays months ago, though he's thin that time, he bang bodies with the veterans 6'7 Berame of UV w/c UC won.. too bad though Junmar plays center for UC, i really think UC should train him more on small forward spot since junmar is a bit agile, yet he need to add some more weights and more training though he's still very young at 17 now standing 6'8. Hope they do make him SF/PF.
And now im looking forward watching CESAFI as they open their season this year.. i havent seen Greg Slaughter play yet,but i'll check on that as soon as i can .. possibly post videos of their games at youtube..
BTW, i'm also from UC, same school of junmar.
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/03/10/sports/uc.barges.into.quarterfinals..html
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/03/12/sports/uc.usj.r.in.partner.s.cup.semis.html
Anytime you have a rookie making a big impact right away on whatever team he plays for, is definitely worth keeping tabs on.
Too bad he's injured, though. I hope its a minor injury only, & not something that will affect his career in basketball one way or the other.
regierr
06-27-2007, 02:06 PM
Second, the coaching staff's reluctance to show him off in an actual, public game. A consistent phrase we hear from Cabahug & Baculi is that, "..... he's too young ....", "..... he's not yet ready .....". I think this translates to: "He's really not that good yet, we're hoping he will be".
they're prolly just afraid that greg might get injured before they could use him.
his talent to me is questionable...hopefully he doesn't turn out to be like feihl or bonel.
Dinamita
06-27-2007, 08:19 PM
Just an observation...
How come all the PURE PINOYS that stands 6'7 and higher are hella skinny?..
We should do something about this...
Look at YANCY, FAJARDO, CANLAS, EMAN, JAPETH etc... they are all skinny...
It would be great if they have a body like BALINGIT and BOLADO I hope they wouldnt end up like them tho, a BUST.....:D
Ang dami na sana nating ipapalit kay ASI... kung hindi lang payat ang mga ito...
BTW, heres a video of SONNY THOSS lifting weights...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxqmv_qY1ZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3BJJYdlERU
rhk111
06-28-2007, 12:40 AM
his talent to me is questionable...hopefully he doesn't turn out to be like feihl or bonel.
I actually think highly of Bonel. He actually started to become a force to be reckoned with in the PBA, once averaging around 15 ppg & 9 pppg, before an injury sidelined him. I think he even made it to the Mythical Five that season.
After that injury, he was never the same again.
rhk111
06-28-2007, 12:41 AM
Jervy Cruz, strictly speaking, was not a rookie last year. He was in his third year of college then. He had to sit out a year due to UAAP rules concerning transferees.
A bit older, then, that would make him 19 or 20, around Slaughter's age.
kerouac82
06-28-2007, 12:49 AM
A bit older, then, that would make him 19 or 20, around Slaughter's age.
Add to that the fact that he was a part of the RP Youth team a few years back. That's a big factor. It shows that Jervy had already been identified as a potential player and was trained towards that end before he went to UST. Slaughter came here without the benefit of having gone through full-time training (except at the HS level, where he was practically a benchwarmer) and playing enough competitive basketball.
At any rate, I hope that 1) Jervy develops his dribble and grows a couple of inches more as his lack of height won't make him an outstanding player in the pros despite his strength and athleticism; and 2) Slaughter slims down/turns all that baby fat into muscle and that Don Ramon teaches him well.
rhk111
06-28-2007, 03:01 AM
It really depends on the player. As I said, the 17 year old Junmar came up well enough to challenge the likes of Berame on his rookie season. Same thing w/ Benjie Paras way back in his first year in UP, he immediately made an impact on his rookie year in the UAAP. He was easily around 17-18 years old at the time he made an impact w/ the Maroons.
As for Slaughter, it is a bit late for him at 19 years old to start learning how to start learning better basketball, but I guess its better than late than never.
As for him being benched, I think there's a good reason why his previous coaches benched him, & that is because they probably didn't see him contributing a lot on the floor when he's actively playing. If he had been useful, he likely would've seen more playing time. There are dozens & dozens of NCAA schools in all three divisions, & the fact that he didn't get multiple offers from any of them is a bit of a concern.
Anyway, hopefully we'll see by August how he really turns out to be.
I actually think highly of Bonel. He actually started to become a force to be reckoned with in the PBA, once averaging around 15 ppg & 9 pppg, before an injury sidelined him. I think he even made it to the Mythical Five that season.
After that injury, he was never the same again.
Agree, balingit actually surpassed EJ Fhiel. Balingit was beginning to improved when he was injured. That injury affected him psychologically and he was never the same again.:(
onono1
06-28-2007, 05:31 AM
Hurt? Not at all. I just noticed that you tend to diss players whom you haven't seen in action. Have you been to Desert Christian or Oberlin College? Have you talked to Gian's coach like I suggested a few posts back? I suggest that you do. Maybe he saw something in Gian that you missed out on. Ditto with Elmer Cabahug and Slaughter.
All I was saying is you should cut these guys some slack. They're still young. And yes, they need polishing. No argument on that. And I myself am not even saying that they're SEA Games material -- they are too young and as a rule of thumb, SEA Games slots are given to those who have played and proven themselves in the PBL.
Marlou Aquino, if I remember correctly, wasn't exactly 19 years old when he played in the SEA Games. EJ Feihl wasn't outstanding either. Just "solid". And there is a world of difference between "outstanding" and "solid". He didn't run the floor well, but had a decent jump hook and drop-step in HS. AdU had a solid frontline then anchored not just on Marlou Aquino, but on Giovanni Pineda and EJ Feihl as well, although it was Duremdes who led the Falcons to the finals against UST.
Jun Limpot... Well, that's another story. He was a center-size guy who played some small forward and had dribbling skills, and players like that don't come around everyday. Perhaps Slaughter can develop into that kind of player, perhaps not. But let's give him (and the others) time. These guys won't be called to action until 2009 or 2011 anyway.
Hey jonar im not quarreling with you here ok. I respect your opinion :) . But how could you explain it when US NCAA Division 1st and even those 2nd div schools did not see something on Gian Chiu what his coach saw on him :rolleyes: I think he's now in a Division III level honing his skills...About marlou aquino's age when he played in seagames, you forgot he was part of natl cage squad at 1991 Sea Games here in Manila at the age of 19. I watched it live in the big dome. Even at the young age, you could see if a player has the natural basketball talent based on the way he played and moved...
thayil
06-28-2007, 05:38 AM
is there any link or updated pictures of him playing or practicing in UV?
kerouac82
06-28-2007, 08:42 AM
Hey jonar im not quarreling with you here ok. I respect your opinion :) . But how could you explain it when US NCAA Division 1st and even those 2nd div schools did not see something on Gian Chiu what his coach saw on him :rolleyes: I think he's now in a Division III level honing his skills...About marlou aquino's age when he played in seagames, you forgot he was part of natl cage squad at 1991 Sea Games here in Manila at the age of 19. I watched it live in the big dome. Even at the young age, you could see if a player has the natural basketball talent based on the way he played and moved...
If I recall correctly, Marlou was Jun Limpot's back-up then. He first showed his real stuff in 1993 and in 1995 with Bal David and Mike Orquillas, even making the Asian Games squad in 1994. I guess players of Marlou's mold don't come everyday. He was a certified star with Ginebra, "jolens" shot notwithstanding. The problem is that he got soft once he went to Sta Lucia and started playing just for the money.
Now, about Gian and playing for a D-III school (BTW, it's Oberlin College), you can always ask Gian about it. Or even the coach, who's a member here. As far as I know, Gian's high school was in a small league, and he was not a member of any AAU team, which could contribute to his being under the radar. And I believe he went to Oberlin on his own volition. D-III schools are more known for academics than for sports; perhaps he felt he would've balanced the two better in a D-III school. But still, you'd do better asking him or his coach about his choice. Wherever he goes, I'm sure we'll still continue following his game. Whatever Slaughter does, I'm sure we'll still keep on rooting for him. Same for the two Aguilars in Division I.
Peace. :D
demonyito
06-28-2007, 09:27 AM
Hey jonar im not quarreling with you here ok. I respect your opinion :) . But how could you explain it when US NCAA Division 1st and even those 2nd div schools did not see something on Gian Chiu what his coach saw on him :rolleyes: I think he's now in a Division III level honing his skills...About marlou aquino's age when he played in seagames, you forgot he was part of natl cage squad at 1991 Sea Games here in Manila at the age of 19. I watched it live in the big dome. Even at the young age, you could see if a player has the natural basketball talent based on the way he played and moved...
yeps..you dont have to wait 'til you reach the age of 19 to show or to fully develop your talent. its there, its your genes that tells and can be seen as soon as you pick up the ball.
Marlou Aquino is the exact representation of how our big men move, plays and the limited mobility...no more no less, we really need an inter-breeding program if we could:(
bolabasket
06-28-2007, 09:38 AM
you dont have to wait 'til you reach the age of 19 to show or to fully develop your talent. its there, its your genes that tells and can be seen as soon as you pick up the ball.
Marlou Aquino is the exact representation of how our big men move, plays and the limited mobility...no more no less, we really need an inter-breeding program if we could:(
Marlou Aquino excelled during his prime because there were not enough big men who could compete against him as listed below:
EJ Feihl (7-0) - too slow, can't jump, no offense
Dong Polistico (6-7) - too slow, hot-headed, not enough playing time
Bonel Balingit (6-9) - too heavy, injury-prone, good offense though
Andy Seigle (6-9) - still adapting to PBA-style, too much hype, foul-prone
etc...
onono1
06-28-2007, 02:07 PM
Marlou Aquino excelled during his prime because there were not enough big men who could compete against him as listed below:
EJ Feihl (7-0) - too slow, can't jump, no offense
Dong Polistico (6-7) - too slow, hot-headed, not enough playing time
Bonel Balingit (6-9) - too heavy, injury-prone, good offense though
Andy Seigle (6-9) - still adapting to PBA-style, too much hype, foul-prone
etc...
Hey man, you missed the tallest filipino ever;
Raul Dillo (7-2) - so very slow, robotic, don't know how to shoot and dribble, what a waste and tried to be a movie actor to no avail ;)
kerouac82
06-29-2007, 12:46 AM
Hey man, you missed the tallest filipino ever;
Raul Dillo (7-2) - so very slow, robotic, don't know how to shoot and dribble, what a waste and tried to be a movie actor to no avail ;)
Marlou never played against Dillo, as far as I know. This guy was supposed to play for UE and never even made the Warriors lineup. :rolleyes: I think he had gigantism, which made him immobile and poorly-coordinated.
Dinamita
06-29-2007, 03:40 AM
Malapit ng ipanganak ang SENTRO ng pilipinas...
Siguradong Isa na namang EJ FEIHL ito :D
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b48/firecracker21_/499508511l.jpg
onono1
06-29-2007, 04:12 AM
Malapit ng ipanganak ang SENTRO ng pilipinas...
Siguradong Isa na namang EJ FEIHL ito :D
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b48/firecracker21_/499508511l.jpg
Holy cow dynamite, a guy name mark d. is looking for you, it was you who claimed you have spoke to mark regarding greg slaughter right....Interestingly, mark d. has denied spoken to you or whoever in this thread :rolleyes:
viperbravo
06-29-2007, 04:17 AM
Holy cow dynamite, a guy name mark d. is looking for you, it was you who claimed you have spoke to mark regarding greg slaughter right....Interestingly, mark d. has denied spoken to you or whoever in this thread :rolleyes:
The woman is only 4'10 height, hehehehe :eek:
Dinamita
06-29-2007, 04:32 AM
Holy cow dynamite, a guy name mark d. is looking for you, it was you who claimed you have spoke to mark regarding greg slaughter right....Interestingly, mark d. has denied spoken to you or whoever in this thread :rolleyes:
I doubt it if that's really him meng...
Got no time to prove myself...
I did spoke to Greg and Mr narvacan not unless this marc narvacan I talked to is fake......:) :D
bolabasket
06-29-2007, 05:03 AM
Holy cow dynamite, a guy name mark d. is looking for you, it was you who claimed you have spoke to mark regarding greg slaughter right....Interestingly, mark d. has denied spoken to you or whoever in this thread :rolleyes:
how tall is that guy? if the girl is 4-11, the guy's probably around 6-3 or 6-4.
Dinamita
06-29-2007, 05:13 AM
girl is 5'2 guy is prolly 6'5 - 6'6:)
mark n.
06-29-2007, 05:46 AM
I doubt it if that's really him meng...
Got no time to prove myself...
I did spoke to Greg and Mr narvacan not unless this marc narvacan I talked to is fake......:) :D
lol
this is really me.
i think you talked to a fake person haha
i spell my name with a "k" not a "c" anyways.
but i heard you played for centreville?
awesome
which years?
i played from 2001-2005. mackmin and johnson were my coaches.
i didnt catch your name by the way.
mark n.
06-29-2007, 05:47 AM
Holy cow dynamite, a guy name mark d. is looking for you, it was you who claimed you have spoke to mark regarding greg slaughter right....Interestingly, mark d. has denied spoken to you or whoever in this thread :rolleyes:
lol its mark n. by the way
not mark d.
onono1
06-29-2007, 06:05 AM
lol its mark n. by the way
not mark d.
Oh oh, my mistake..mark narvakan not mark darvakan :p
JET007
06-29-2007, 06:56 AM
Malapit ng ipanganak ang SENTRO ng pilipinas...
Siguradong Isa na namang EJ FEIHL ito :D
HAHAHA!!!! ano ba yan! yung lalake parang senior citizen na at yung babae parang mga 20 years old lng!!!
HAHAHA!!!! ano ba yan! yung lalake parang senior citizen na at yung babae parang mga 20 years old lng!!!
Sinabi mo pa! hehehehe.........:D
Fil-Aus Boy
06-30-2007, 12:15 PM
I doubt it if that's really him meng...
Got no time to prove myself...
I did spoke to Greg and Mr narvacan not unless this marc narvacan I talked to is fake......:) :D
Who's the real slim shady... please stand up...
Fil-Aus Boy
06-30-2007, 12:16 PM
lol
this is really me.
i think you talked to a fake person haha
i spell my name with a "k" not a "c" anyways.
but i heard you played for centreville?
awesome
which years?
i played from 2001-2005. mackmin and johnson were my coaches.
i didnt catch your name by the way.
Who's the real slim shady... please stand up...
thayil
07-13-2007, 08:15 AM
ano na balita sa knya?
Translation: any update?
snipes12
07-13-2007, 09:54 AM
the next ej feihl ...
the next ej feihl ...
did you him play?:confused:
mabagal ba kumilos?
Translation: Does he move slow?
I hope you watch the game between RP and China a while ago, I watch that 6'11" 20 yrs. old chinese center. man he moves fast and he can shoot 3 pointers.
kerouac82
07-13-2007, 12:05 PM
I hope you watch the game between RP and China a while ago, I watch that 6'11" 20 yrs. old chinese center. man he moves fast and he can shoot 3 pointers.
Man, that Bo Wang guy just played crazy tonight. :D
saints13
07-13-2007, 12:32 PM
Man, that Bo Wang guy just played crazy tonight. :D
Buwang nga eh :D
DaveMap2007
07-13-2007, 12:54 PM
This tournament is just like the last sparring session in boxing before the fight....
Onizuka01
07-13-2007, 01:54 PM
mabagal ba kumilos?
Translation: Does he move slow?
i've seen him doing his drills.. he still needs a lot of improvement. i think he's better than Ej Feihl. he's been training a lot and doing great in UV camp.. hope he builds more muscle than water :D for me over all he's slow but not like Ej Feihl.
i've seen him doing his drills.. he still needs a lot of improvement. i think he's better than Ej Feihl. he's been training a lot and doing great in UV camp.. hope he builds more muscle than water :D for me over all he's slow but not like Ej Feihl.
how about marlou aquino? is he better then marlou aquino? if he is, i think he can play in the NT.:)
b3lowzro
07-14-2007, 03:09 PM
Man give this kid a break... Yes he's tall! Yes He's raw! Yes he's from USA and He's still a pinoy but please let him have his own identity, comparing him to a lot of big guys wouldn't do him good. i know he'll have his break in the Philippine basketball scene but dont over hype it; maybe you might just end up being disappointed.
Man give this kid a break... Yes he's tall! Yes He's raw! Yes he's from USA and He's still a pinoy but please let him have his own identity, comparing him to a lot of big guys wouldn't do him good. i know he'll have his break in the Philippine basketball scene but dont over hype it; maybe you might just end up being disappointed.
I guess you got a point there. It would be unfair to him to be compared to other filipino center. i guess i was really desperate to see that one day the philippines will have a great big guy playing the center position.:o
any updates on gregory slaughter?
bolabasket
07-21-2007, 02:54 AM
Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (CESAFI) is scheduled on 1st week of August 2007 so we'll just have to wait for our Cebuano forumers here for the report.
joel23
07-21-2007, 04:31 AM
i've seen him doing his drills.. he still needs a lot of improvement. i think he's better than Ej Feihl. he's been training a lot and doing great in UV camp.. hope he builds more muscle than water :D for me over all he's slow but not like Ej Feihl.
I hope he will better than Asi Taulava
watiwawa
07-21-2007, 06:13 AM
I hope he will better than Asi Taulava
then Rp is officially back in asia..
budz17
07-21-2007, 12:36 PM
then Rp is officially back in asia..
men were back in asia. everybody knows us. but we're not on top yet. it will take time, maybe 5 to 10 years, even longer. hopefully, we make it to olympics next year, i'm hoping for it.
b3lowzro
07-21-2007, 03:49 PM
then Rp is officially back in asia..
Everyone is saying that for the past 20 years... Lalo na in this forum where there are so much Filipino bragsters who thinks that the RP team is still the best in Asia.
updates on gregory please post.
Wuysang
08-01-2007, 04:33 PM
Everyone is saying that for the past 20 years... Lalo na in this forum where there are so much Filipino bragsters who thinks that the RP team is still the best in Asia.
i know the filipino people are basketball lover. for me i love sports not only basketball. it's true the philppines still the best in asia and southeast asia dominant anymore.
Servinio
08-01-2007, 05:45 PM
updates on gregory please post.
Gregory Slaughter will make his much awaited Philippine basketball debut this Saturday (August 4) when his University of the Visayas Lancers take on the University of Cebu Webmasters in the opening game of the Seventh Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (CeSAFI) at the New Cebu Coliseum.
pachador
08-01-2007, 10:52 PM
Anthony,
we await your analysis of Gregory's playing style, speed, skills and how he did in his first game in the philippines. thanks !
Gregory Slaughter will make his much awaited Philippine basketball debut this Saturday (August 4) when his University of the Visayas Lancers take on the University of Cebu Webmasters in the opening game of the Seventh Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (CeSAFI) at the New Cebu Coliseum.
rhk111
08-02-2007, 12:49 AM
Anthony, will Junmar Fajardo be playing this Saturday? There were earlier reports that he is out the whole season this year due to an injury.
pachador
08-02-2007, 12:51 AM
you are right he was injured.....hmmm... i wonder if he will 'magically' heal in time for the game?
Anthony, will Junmar Fajardo be playing this Saturday? There were earlier reports that he is out the whole season this year due to an injury.
crouchingtiger
08-02-2007, 11:32 AM
My worry is that Phil never had the experience of developing tall center, that position was never emphasized in RPs game. I hope the Phil authority can find some foreign trainer, european preferable, to train these tall jewels, they represent the future of Phil BB.
7 footers are also very scarce in US, if this guy is from the states, that means he was not given scholarship there....I assume he must be quite raw.......
crouchingtiger
08-02-2007, 11:39 AM
Fil players are very quick and agile until SF position, they have not produced any quality players with a height of > 6'10''.
You name the popular players Phil ever produced, Lim, Lastimosa, Co, Patrimonio etc all SG or at most SF.
joel23
08-02-2007, 12:14 PM
Fil players are very quick and agile until SF position, they have not produced any quality players with a height of > 6'10''.
You name the popular players Phil ever produced, Lim, Lastimosa, Co, Patrimonio etc all SG or at most SF.
Yeah they're great former Filipino superstars.
bolabasket
08-03-2007, 01:29 AM
With his height, Slaughter will be a towering presence. But I doubt he would dominate the game. There are lots of 6-5, 6-6s centers in CESAFI and they will gladly take this young kid to school.
My prediction -- Slaughter's just a younger Andy Seigle.
kerouac82
08-03-2007, 01:41 AM
With his height, Slaughter will be a towering presence. But I doubt he would dominate the game. There are lots of 6-5, 6-6s centers in CESAFI and they will gladly take this young kid to school.
My prediction -- Slaughter's just a younger Andy Seigle.
Facial resemblances aside, Slaughter might just be a better Andy Seigle. Also, the CESAFI is as competitive as the Manila leagues. They also have two tall centers in Rino Berame and Junmar Fajardo, who both stand at least 6'8". The training Slaughter will get from Fernandez will definitely help too, although I can't imagine Slaughter doing an "elegant shot". :p
rensquared
08-03-2007, 01:56 AM
My worry is that Phil never had the experience of developing tall center, that position was never emphasized in RPs game. I hope the Phil authority can find some foreign trainer, european preferable, to train these tall jewels, they represent the future of Phil BB.
7 footers are also very scarce in US, if this guy is from the states, that means he was not given scholarship there....I assume he must be quite raw.......
I agree with you with this one brotha.. The phil. never had a dominating center with a height of 6'10 and above.. So far, the most dominant we have is Asi Taulava... Othr than that, no body..
Philip Ceasar and Ramon Fernandez are great centers, but they are barely over 6'5 or 6'6.. not 6'10 and above..
Onizuka01
08-03-2007, 11:56 AM
Anthony,
we await your analysis of Gregory's playing style, speed, skills and how he did in his first game in the philippines. thanks !
I'll try to watch the opening game of CeSAFI. UV vs. UC, I wanna check on how Slaughter would play tomorrow and Junmar Fajardo, hope I, he will play. I don't know if he has recovered from injury.
rhk111
08-03-2007, 01:30 PM
Junmar Fajardo, if he's not injured, is worth keeping tabs on, along w/ Slaughter.
A 17-year old rookie this year, & he's already able to keep up w/ veterans like Berame in Cebu's collegiate & commercial leagues.
dreamwalker
08-03-2007, 05:33 PM
Everyone is saying that for the past 20 years... Lalo na in this forum where there are so much Filipino bragsters who thinks that the RP team is still the best in Asia.
True, RP is no longer numero uno.
YinkaDare
08-03-2007, 08:08 PM
I think Greg Slaughter should transfer to a well known University in UAAP or NCAA to give him an exposure and to develop him more..
The level of play in UAAP and NCAA is much better.
b3lowzro
08-04-2007, 04:19 AM
I think Greg Slaughter should transfer to a well known University in UAAP or NCAA to give him an exposure and to develop him more..
The level of play in UAAP and NCAA is much better.
well if he plays the UAAP or NCAA caliber type of player he could transfer; maybe sa DLSU :D they have a good program there but i guess he's willing to stay in the Visayas
kryptoniac
08-04-2007, 04:25 AM
i know the filipino people are basketball lover. for me i love sports not only basketball. it's true the philppines still the best in asia and southeast asia dominant anymore.
a lil correction, not "basketball lover" but "basketball fanatics". But yeah you're right, a lot of teams from other nations have improved considerably in basketball, that's one of those reasons we're having a hard time winning now, but I still believe the RP team will still bag a gold/first place in international events such as FIBA in the future.
ctongco
08-04-2007, 04:35 AM
My worry is that Phil never had the experience of developing tall center, that position was never emphasized in RPs game. I hope the Phil authority can find some foreign trainer, european preferable, to train these tall jewels, they represent the future of Phil BB.
7 footers are also very scarce in US, if this guy is from the states, that means he was not given scholarship there....I assume he must be quite raw.......
Maybe the basics can be taught by former Filipino centers. Eventually they should get an expert to train him. I do hope he becomes a great player. Team Pilipinas really needs a good frontline.
pachador
08-04-2007, 04:45 AM
yung chika ninyo ha about 6'11" Slaughter today !!! yung detailed talaga. ano weaknesses at strengths ni Slaughter. mabagal ba siya? lateral footwork ? rebounding, toughness? , defense? shotblocks? Thanks !!
b3lowzro
08-04-2007, 05:01 AM
yung chika ninyo ha about 6'11" Slaughter today !!! yung detailed talaga. ano weaknesses at strengths ni Slaughter. mabagal ba siya? lateral footwork ? rebounding, toughness? , defense? shotblocks? Thanks !!
trans: give me detailed updates on Greg S. is he slow, is he agile hows he doin? lateral footwork ? rebounding, toughness? , defense? shotblocks? Thanks
hari ng basketball
08-04-2007, 05:03 AM
English please (http://forums.interbasket.net/showthread.php?t=3801)
b3lowzro
08-04-2007, 05:04 AM
English please (http://forums.interbasket.net/showthread.php?t=3801)
yo bro please respect the forum rules. Speak in English
ctongco
08-04-2007, 05:09 AM
English please (http://forums.interbasket.net/showthread.php?t=3801)
Better give a translation for your post. There is this rule about English Translations. Here (http://forums.interbasket.net/showthread.php?t=3801).
Welcome to Interbasket.
DaveMap2007
08-04-2007, 09:00 AM
yung chika ninyo ha about 6'11" Slaughter today !!! yung detailed talaga. ano weaknesses at strengths ni Slaughter. mabagal ba siya? lateral footwork ? rebounding, toughness? , defense? shotblocks? Thanks !!
Chika ka dyan.....(its so gay)
DaveMap2007
08-04-2007, 09:01 AM
English please (http://forums.interbasket.net/showthread.php?t=3801)
whoah...its joel23 friend guys....
budz17
08-04-2007, 09:34 AM
guys, any update on gregory slaughter and the other big guys there down in cebu?
could you provide info on how well he moves, not in scoring only but in how mobile he is. can he rebound? does he intimidate his opponets? those kind of things.
rhk111
08-04-2007, 12:45 PM
Any scouting reports out there? The UV-UC game was supposed to have started at 3:30 pm, so it should've been long over by now.
Onizuka01
08-04-2007, 12:54 PM
Any scouting reports out there? The UV-UC game was supposed to have started at 3:30 pm, so it should've been long over by now.
I've missed watching the game.. waaaah.. I couldn't get out because of overtime work.. the game started 5 PM... and I'm out 7 PM :(
I should watch their game next time, hopefully during my free time.
watiwawa
08-04-2007, 02:28 PM
let's wait for the sunday newspaper...
budz17
08-04-2007, 02:29 PM
let's wait for the sunday newspaper...
any ideas on the local newspapers in cebu? do they have websites?
budz17
08-04-2007, 02:36 PM
I finally have a picture of this greg slaughter. his name is gregory fuentes slaughter. but I don't know how to put his picture here
Onizuka01
08-04-2007, 02:38 PM
any ideas on the local newspapers in cebu? do they have websites?
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/index.html ...u could use this as one source..
I've read the local news paper here (Cebu), just saw a picture of Slaughter dunking the ball. His first collegiate game today in CESAFI.
joel23
08-04-2007, 02:51 PM
I can't wait for Greg Slaughter playing
protossdomain
08-04-2007, 03:23 PM
I can't wait for Greg Slaughter playing
Almost joel! Almost! If you know what I mean. >_<
zupermann
08-04-2007, 03:42 PM
Have Asi train this guy, except free throws, lol
ctongco
08-04-2007, 04:47 PM
Have Asi train this guy, except free throws, lol
Have Asi play against this guy. That should toughen him up.
zupermann
08-04-2007, 04:58 PM
Have Asi play against this guy. That should toughen him up.
Yup, Just let Asi bang this guy!
saints13
08-04-2007, 07:51 PM
dami kopra sa Visayas, pagpraktisan niya magkopra, lalakas mga braso nya :D LOL
I hope we'll see this guy when Champion's Cup comes during the Univerisity games off-season :)
translation:
I wonder if he's worth the hype.. I hope so
Dinamita
08-04-2007, 08:06 PM
Slaughter mania’
By Marian C. Baring
Sun.Star Staff Reporter
THE Cebu Coliseum was filled until 9:30 p.m. all because everyone wanted to have a glimpse of Filipino-American 6-foot-11wonder, Gregory Slaughter, who played in his debut game with University of the Visayas Green Lancers in yesterday’s main offering of the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (Cesafi) opening.
UV, with its all-star powerhouse cast, defeated the University of Cebu Webmasters, 119-110, in an unusual backdoor win for
the defending champion UV.
“All these people are here to see who this Slaughter person is,” said Cesafi commissioner Felix Tiukinhoy.
The game started in what could be a drag, until the 4:28 mark in the first period, when Slaughter was fielded in and scored on a breakaway lay-up.
Such is the Slaughter-mania that that simple move sent the coliseum into pandemonium.
Slaughter was under the microscope, people shouted his name and every little chance that he was open for a shot the crowd tells the Lancers to give Slaughter the ball.
“I am just so overwhelmed at the attention that he is getting,” said Slaughter’s father William.
William said that he was surprised that even the taxi drivers know his son’s name.
Despite all the bustle about him, Slaughter, however, had a lackluster game as he was given little play time, and scored only two baskets. On both occasions, the crowd went crazy.
He, however, was a major force at the post as anyone attempting to drive for the basket, changes his mind and backs off.
“He was nervous before the game, but he was able to compose himself during the game. I think he did pretty well considering this is his first game in front of a very large crowd,” said William.
UV also proved that it is not a one-man team, as head coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug banked on his regulars to take control of the game.
This was not the case in the early goings of the game as UV found itself at the mercy of the UC Webmasters, who seemed undaunted by their opponents’ size.
UC, playing with passion and gusto and a tenacious defense to boot, dominated the early part of the game, and built up a 10-point lead, 69-59, at the start of the penultimate round behind the resiliency of Jonathan Canceran, Allain Abellanosa and rookie Rommel Luceño.
The third frame was the turning point of the game. UC started the quarter leading in double digits and ended it lagging behind by nine points.
The turnaround came as UV’s Harlou Villanil, Ariel Mepaña, Michael Luga and Chris Diputado initiated a 15-5 run, which turned the game around for good.
When the dust settled, Luga topscored for UV with 24 points, while Villanil, who used to play for UC, scattered 20 points in his first game as a Lancer.
2 points? he has a long way to go...:D :D :D
saints13
08-04-2007, 08:11 PM
Despite all the bustle about him, Slaughter, however, had a lackluster game as he was given little play time, and scored only two baskets. On both occasions, the crowd went crazy
2 points? he has a long way to go...:D :D :D
he had two baskets..on both ocasions..if I'm not mistaken bro, the article says 4 points? :)
Dinamita
08-04-2007, 08:15 PM
mah bad.... 4 points indeed...:D
thugpinoy
08-04-2007, 08:17 PM
Slaughter mania’
By Marian C. Baring
Sun.Star Staff Reporter
THE Cebu Coliseum was filled until 9:30 p.m. all because everyone wanted to have a glimpse of Filipino-American 6-foot-11wonder, Gregory Slaughter, who played in his debut game with University of the Visayas Green Lancers in yesterday’s main offering of the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (Cesafi) opening.
UV, with its all-star powerhouse cast, defeated the University of Cebu Webmasters, 119-110, in an unusual backdoor win for
the defending champion UV.
“All these people are here to see who this Slaughter person is,” said Cesafi commissioner Felix Tiukinhoy.
The game started in what could be a drag, until the 4:28 mark in the first period, when Slaughter was fielded in and scored on a breakaway lay-up.
Such is the Slaughter-mania that that simple move sent the coliseum into pandemonium.
Slaughter was under the microscope, people shouted his name and every little chance that he was open for a shot the crowd tells the Lancers to give Slaughter the ball.
“I am just so overwhelmed at the attention that he is getting,” said Slaughter’s father William.
William said that he was surprised that even the taxi drivers know his son’s name.
Despite all the bustle about him, Slaughter, however, had a lackluster game as he was given little play time, and scored only two baskets. On both occasions, the crowd went crazy.
He, however, was a major force at the post as anyone attempting to drive for the basket, changes his mind and backs off.
“He was nervous before the game, but he was able to compose himself during the game. I think he did pretty well considering this is his first game in front of a very large crowd,” said William.
UV also proved that it is not a one-man team, as head coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug banked on his regulars to take control of the game.
This was not the case in the early goings of the game as UV found itself at the mercy of the UC Webmasters, who seemed undaunted by their opponents’ size.
UC, playing with passion and gusto and a tenacious defense to boot, dominated the early part of the game, and built up a 10-point lead, 69-59, at the start of the penultimate round behind the resiliency of Jonathan Canceran, Allain Abellanosa and rookie Rommel Luceño.
The third frame was the turning point of the game. UC started the quarter leading in double digits and ended it lagging behind by nine points.
The turnaround came as UV’s Harlou Villanil, Ariel Mepaña, Michael Luga and Chris Diputado initiated a 15-5 run, which turned the game around for good.
When the dust settled, Luga topscored for UV with 24 points, while Villanil, who used to play for UC, scattered 20 points in his first game as a Lancer.
2 points? he has a long way to go...:D :D :D
yeah.. maybe he is just starting to develop his Basketball skills. ( advise of the father maybe ) but for sure a future PBA player.
he played for how many minutes??
Who is this Luga? is he a PBL player?
saints13
08-04-2007, 08:18 PM
yeah.. maybe he is just starting to develop his Basketball skills. ( advise of the father maybe ) but for sure a future PBA player.
he played for how many minutes??
Who is this Luga? is he a PBL player?
I hope he'll not be the next James Walkvist :)
zupermann
08-04-2007, 08:31 PM
:) hooray!:D
Servinio
08-04-2007, 08:56 PM
Who is this Luga? is he a PBL player?
Michael Luga is 6'3" and can play both forward spots, with a decent shot from 18 to 20 feet and enough athleticism to get rebounds. Ironically, this is only his rookie year in college ball because he opted to play in commercial leagues the last two years or so out of high school.
Last year, Luga played for Cebu Landmaster under Coach Jun Tan in the Mindanao Visayas Basketball Association. This year, he transferred to expansion team Arthro Kontra Arthritis under Coach Al Solis.
This is allowed by CeSAFI rules. The player will only be ineligible if he has played in the PBL prior to his first CeSAFI stint.
YinkaDare
08-04-2007, 09:25 PM
Michael Luga is 6'3" and can play both forward spots, with a decent shot from 18 to 20 feet and enough athleticism to get rebounds. Ironically, this is only his rookie year in college ball because he opted to play in commercial leagues the last two years or so out of high school.
Last year, Luga played for Cebu Landmaster under Coach Jun Tan in the Mindanao Visayas Basketball Association. This year, he transferred to expansion team Arthro Kontra Arthritis under Coach Al Solis.
This is allowed by CeSAFI rules. The player will only be ineligible if he has played in the PBL prior to his first CeSAFI stint.
Oh I Thought EarWax. just kidding
But Hey! your the next Quinito henson! Servinio! Your a Whiz!
Where did you get this info?
saints13
08-04-2007, 09:29 PM
Oh I Thought EarWax. just kidding
But Hey! your the next Quinito henson! Servinio! Your a Whiz!
Where did you get this info?
better yet the next Ernie Baron of RP Basketbal..LOLZ
YinkaDare
08-04-2007, 09:36 PM
better yet the next Ernie Baron of RP Basketbal..LOLZ
I agree...You have my respect man! He is my idol now!
rhk111
08-04-2007, 11:07 PM
Slaughter Mania (Web Link) (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/08/05/sports/.slaughter.mania..html)
2 baskets, or 4 points in Slaughter's first game on Philippine shores.
After years & years of waiting, I think at last, Philippine basketball has finally found it: EJ Feihl's replacement.
In a way, I have mixed feelings about seeing all the mania that Slaughter has generated.
First, a 6'11" player is quite a novelty, not only in Cebu, but I guess the whole Philippines. In my lifetime, & I guess for most Pinoys also, I have seen only ONE legitimate 6'11" player play out there on the court, & that is EJ Feihl.
Reading the accounts of "Slaughter Mania" at the Sun Star Cebu website, & you'd think it was Lebron James playing out there on the court, instead of a mediocre 7-foot Center.
And that, really is the problem: We just don't have height, which is a critical component in basketball at its higher levels. Tall players are just so rare that we end up celebrating such novelty when it finally comes around.
I take consolation in that we are not only the ones in this position. I saw a basketball movie recently (unfortunately I missed the title) about the greatest upset in US NCAA basketball history. In that movie, the townsfolk ended up idolizing their underdog team for the rest of their lives, even if they never got anywhere near the US NCAA championship again.
I guess sometimes, its just not about winning, its loving the game.
As for Slaughter, if ends up making "2 baskets" the next couple of games, the novelty will likely eventually wear off. His future? He MIGHT reach the PBA. After all, EJ Feihl did.
Project_Olympics
08-05-2007, 12:39 AM
can anyone post his pics here!!! TNX
protossdomain
08-05-2007, 12:41 AM
Slaughter Mania (Web Link) (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/08/05/sports/.slaughter.mania..html)
2 baskets, or 4 points in Slaughter's first game on Philippine shores.
After years & years of waiting, I think at last, Philippine basketball has finally found it: EJ Feihl's replacement.
In a way, I have mixed feelings about seeing all the mania that Slaughter has generated.
First, a 6'11" player is quite a novelty, not only in Cebu, but I guess the whole Philippines. In my lifetime, & I guess for most Pinoys also, I have seen only ONE legitimate 6'11" player play out there on the court, & that is EJ Feihl.
Reading the accounts of "Slaughter Mania" at the Sun Star Cebu website, & you'd think it was Lebron James playing out there on the court, instead of a mediocre 7-foot Center.
And that, really is the problem: We just don't have height, which is a critical component in basketball at its higher levels. Tall players are just so rare that we end up celebrating such novelty when it finally comes around.
I take consolation in that we are not only the ones in this position. I saw a basketball movie recently (unfortunately I missed the title) about the greatest upset in US NCAA basketball history. In that movie, the townsfolk ended up idolizing their underdog team for the rest of their lives, even if they never got anywhere near the US NCAA championship again.
I guess sometimes, its just not about winning, its loving the game.
As for Slaughter, if ends up making "2 baskets" the next couple of games, the novelty will likely eventually wear off. His future? He MIGHT reach the PBA. After all, EJ Feihl did.
Let us all hope you are wrong. >_<
budz17
08-05-2007, 01:23 AM
Slaughter Mania (Web Link) (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/08/05/sports/.slaughter.mania..html)
2 baskets, or 4 points in Slaughter's first game on Philippine shores.
After years & years of waiting, I think at last, Philippine basketball has finally found it: EJ Feihl's replacement.
In a way, I have mixed feelings about seeing all the mania that Slaughter has generated.
First, a 6'11" player is quite a novelty, not only in Cebu, but I guess the whole Philippines. In my lifetime, & I guess for most Pinoys also, I have seen only ONE legitimate 6'11" player play out there on the court, & that is EJ Feihl.
Reading the accounts of "Slaughter Mania" at the Sun Star Cebu website, & you'd think it was Lebron James playing out there on the court, instead of a mediocre 7-foot Center.
And that, really is the problem: We just don't have height, which is a critical component in basketball at its higher levels. Tall players are just so rare that we end up celebrating such novelty when it finally comes around.
I take consolation in that we are not only the ones in this position. I saw a basketball movie recently (unfortunately I missed the title) about the greatest upset in US NCAA basketball history. In that movie, the townsfolk ended up idolizing their underdog team for the rest of their lives, even if they never got anywhere near the US NCAA championship again.
I guess sometimes, its just not about winning, its loving the game.
As for Slaughter, if ends up making "2 baskets" the next couple of games, the novelty will likely eventually wear off. His future? He MIGHT reach the PBA. After all, EJ Feihl did.
its his first game!!! give him a chance. lets hope he improves. maybe after two seasons in cesafi and various leagues there in cebu, he learns enough. then maybe he can come here in manila so he can play with other big men, to toughen him up
b3lowzro
08-05-2007, 02:40 AM
give this kid a break guys... Nobody shines in their first games in leagues well except for LeBron james
DaveMap2007
08-05-2007, 09:41 AM
Another EJ Feihl........what a waste....:mad:
DaveMap2007
08-05-2007, 09:44 AM
Michael Luga is 6'3" and can play both forward spots, with a decent shot from 18 to 20 feet and enough athleticism to get rebounds. Ironically, this is only his rookie year in college ball because he opted to play in commercial leagues the last two years or so out of high school.
Last year, Luga played for Cebu Landmaster under Coach Jun Tan in the Mindanao Visayas Basketball Association. This year, he transferred to expansion team Arthro Kontra Arthritis under Coach Al Solis.
This is allowed by CeSAFI rules. The player will only be ineligible if he has played in the PBL prior to his first CeSAFI stint.
Luga reminds me of Bruce Dacia....
joel23
08-05-2007, 11:10 AM
Slaughter Mania (Web Link) (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/08/05/sports/.slaughter.mania..html)
2 baskets, or 4 points in Slaughter's first game on Philippine shores.
After years & years of waiting, I think at last, Philippine basketball has finally found it: EJ Feihl's replacement.
In a way, I have mixed feelings about seeing all the mania that Slaughter has generated.
First, a 6'11" player is quite a novelty, not only in Cebu, but I guess the whole Philippines. In my lifetime, & I guess for most Pinoys also, I have seen only ONE legitimate 6'11" player play out there on the court, & that is EJ Feihl.
Reading the accounts of "Slaughter Mania" at the Sun Star Cebu website, & you'd think it was Lebron James playing out there on the court, instead of a mediocre 7-foot Center.
And that, really is the problem: We just don't have height, which is a critical component in basketball at its higher levels. Tall players are just so rare that we end up celebrating such novelty when it finally comes around.
I take consolation in that we are not only the ones in this position. I saw a basketball movie recently (unfortunately I missed the title) about the greatest upset in US NCAA basketball history. In that movie, the townsfolk ended up idolizing their underdog team for the rest of their lives, even if they never got anywhere near the US NCAA championship again.
I guess sometimes, its just not about winning, its loving the game.
As for Slaughter, if ends up making "2 baskets" the next couple of games, the novelty will likely eventually wear off. His future? He MIGHT reach the PBA. After all, EJ Feihl did.
How about his rebounds, blocks etc...??? Let continue for his developing skills... He must more training many-many.... :D
why do you guys keeps on repeating luga? damn in eating!
warren99
08-05-2007, 11:37 AM
who is that michael luga?:D :D :D
Servinio
08-05-2007, 05:08 PM
can anyone post his pics here!!! TNX
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/anser1123/100_1539.jpg
Slaughter = 6'11"
Servinio = 5'9"
YinkaDare
08-05-2007, 06:15 PM
:D Man..you looked like a kid there...hehe..
Jim Antonio
08-05-2007, 10:44 PM
Greg looks more pinoy than most fil-ams, bisayang dako gyud! :)
I have a feeling he'll play much better as we go along. It was a wise decision for Boy Cabahug not to throw him into the fire, there's an eternity of basketball to explore for this kid.
Onizuka01
08-06-2007, 06:13 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/anser1123/100_1539.jpg
Slaughter = 6'11"
Servinio = 5'9"
Just a guess, I think u are a commentator of MVBA and CeSAFI, Mr. Servinio? Together with the former PBA commentator who is a Cebuano.. I hope my guess is right :D
protossdomain
08-06-2007, 06:26 AM
All along I thought he was black. :(
Fil-Aus Boy
08-06-2007, 09:06 AM
All along I thought he was black. :(
Who.....? Servinio or Slaughter....? :D
budz17
08-06-2007, 09:14 AM
All along I thought he was black. :(
yeah, me too, before I saw his picture.
Slaughter Mania (Web Link) (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/08/05/sports/.slaughter.mania..html)
2 baskets, or 4 points in Slaughter's first game on Philippine shores.
After years & years of waiting, I think at last, Philippine basketball has finally found it: EJ Feihl's replacement.
In a way, I have mixed feelings about seeing all the mania that Slaughter has generated.
First, a 6'11" player is quite a novelty, not only in Cebu, but I guess the whole Philippines. In my lifetime, & I guess for most Pinoys also, I have seen only ONE legitimate 6'11" player play out there on the court, & that is EJ Feihl.
Reading the accounts of "Slaughter Mania" at the Sun Star Cebu website, & you'd think it was Lebron James playing out there on the court, instead of a mediocre 7-foot Center.
And that, really is the problem: We just don't have height, which is a critical component in basketball at its higher levels. Tall players are just so rare that we end up celebrating such novelty when it finally comes around.
I take consolation in that we are not only the ones in this position. I saw a basketball movie recently (unfortunately I missed the title) about the greatest upset in US NCAA basketball history. In that movie, the townsfolk ended up idolizing their underdog team for the rest of their lives, even if they never got anywhere near the US NCAA championship again.
I guess sometimes, its just not about winning, its loving the game.
As for Slaughter, if ends up making "2 baskets" the next couple of games, the novelty will likely eventually wear off. His future? He MIGHT reach the PBA. After all, EJ Feihl did.
Maybe your right but i guess you did not able to watch the ballgame!how the crowd go crazy as he made the two handed slum dunk upon receiving the ball overhead pass and a simple escape basket from 2 opponents.
If you consider only the points of a certain player,it is baseless how about the rebounds,defense etc.and how could you make a bigger score when your playing time is limited.
saints13
08-06-2007, 12:12 PM
he doesn't look like what his name sounds..slaughter? :) sounds like a butcher..LOL he looks like the former Defense Minister of the PBA - Jerry Codiñera..btw, Mr. Servinio is all around the Philippines, is he a basketball journalist?.. :)
YinkaDare
08-06-2007, 04:55 PM
he needs a good coach and trainor to develop his talent, speed etc.:(
thugpinoy
08-06-2007, 05:00 PM
he doesn't look like what his name sounds..slaughter? :) sounds like a butcher..LOL he looks like the former Defense Minister of the PBA - Jerry Codiñera..btw, Mr. Servinio is all around the Philippines, is he a basketball journalist?.. :)
Yeah, upon seeing his pic, his face looks familiar.
chokoi
08-06-2007, 05:15 PM
he doesn't look like what his name sounds..slaughter? :) sounds like a butcher..LOL he looks like the former Defense Minister of the PBA - Jerry Codiñera..btw, Mr. Servinio is all around the Philippines, is he a basketball journalist?.. :)
i thought too slaughter is a black but when i saw him he looks like a pure pinoyi rather than a fil-am!really look like jerry codinera hopefully he will not become andy seigle or ej feihl..English please
YinkaDare
08-06-2007, 05:26 PM
i thought too slaughter is a black but when i saw him he looks like a pure pinoyi rather than a fil-am!really look like jerry codinera hopefully he will not become andy seigle or ej feihl..English please
Maybe sometime he will end up in showbiz like paras did.
Trans: Pang Showbiz ang fafa! hahahahha:D
Dinamita
08-06-2007, 09:14 PM
Maybe your right but i guess you did not able to watch the ballgame!how the crowd go crazy as he made the two handed slum dunk upon receiving the ball overhead pass and a simple escape basket from 2 opponents.
If you consider only the points of a certain player,it is baseless how about the rebounds,defense etc.and how could you make a bigger score when your playing time is limited.
I heard he didnt play the 2nd half?...
Lets just wait and see till the tournament ends....
Its just his 1st game anyway....
I hope he'll dominate in his next games...
Btw, incase your from cebu... maybe you could video him in his next game... :D :D :D
rhk111
08-07-2007, 12:17 AM
Maybe your right but i guess you did not able to watch the ballgame!how the crowd go crazy as he made the two handed slum dunk upon receiving the ball overhead pass and a simple escape basket from 2 opponents.
If you consider only the points of a certain player,it is baseless how about the rebounds,defense etc.and how could you make a bigger score when your playing time is limited.
If the player really is useful, the Coach would not hesitate to use him on a game. Coaches need to win, & because of that, they need quality players. If a player really has merit, I have no doubt a Coach would use him out there on the court.
But if 'kung sa practice pa lang, nakikita mo ng me problema,' you would have 2nd thoughts about fielding him in a game.
drick_009
08-07-2007, 12:22 AM
:) Let him in ! to the pba world!! Pasok nyo narin sa RP TEam!!:D :D :D :D
sergio23
08-07-2007, 12:34 AM
Just a guess, I think u are a commentator of MVBA and CeSAFI, Mr. Servinio? Together with the former PBA commentator who is a Cebuano.. I hope my guess is right :D
I hope hes Wang Zhi Zhi in the making...ehehe
kerouac82
08-07-2007, 01:09 AM
The Slaughter kid looks like a much fatter Andy Seigle.
If the player really is useful, the Coach would not hesitate to use him on a game. Coaches need to win, & because of that, they need quality players. If a player really has merit, I have no doubt a Coach would use him out there on the court.
But if 'kung sa practice pa lang, nakikita mo ng me problema,' you would have 2nd thoughts about fielding him in a game.
hopefully i can have some video in his actual game sometimes if possible but not a promised .
Yeah it is very obious that a coach wants his team to win,If i was the coach i would do the same thing,i will utilized the small player that are fast since the UC team has a small line up and they are fast and caliber 3pt shooter.How could a 7'0" player could do the same speed of running like Jimmy alapag or helterbrand,the coach utilizes the small player that he has so Luga was his big man and the rest are offguard and guard and its very clear what the coach did ,Anyway let us give him a break we will try to see on his next game probably tomorrow.
asapa11
08-07-2007, 02:52 AM
they should put this kid in the game 40 mins a night... give him the ball all the time... that way he could get used to the pressure... and he gets to feel the weight on his shoulders on how height comes with great responsibility... in basketball.
also we should get all the great centers/pf in the pba to train him! get caloy loyzaga, benji paras, jerry codinera, alvin patrimonio, abet guidaben, get bonel balingit, alex crisano, mick pennisi, asi taulava and cris bolado as a sparring partner for him, get him to wrestle these guys on the court. this guy could be our future!
get johnny abarientos to teach him how to play small against yao ming, ha seung jin and hamed hadadi!
ctongco
08-07-2007, 05:52 AM
they should put this kid in the game 40 mins a night... give him the ball all the time... that way he could get used to the pressure... and he gets to feel the weight on his shoulders on how height comes with great responsibility... in basketball.
also we should get all the great centers/pf in the pba to train him! get caloy loyzaga, benji paras, jerry codinera, alvin patrimonio, abet guidaben, get bonel balingit, alex crisano, mick pennisi, asi taulava and cris bolado as a sparring partner for him, get him to wrestle these guys on the court. this guy could be our future!
get johnny abarientos to teach him how to play small against yao ming, ha seung jin and hamed hadadi!
Maybe someone can sponsor him to attend BIG MAN Camps in the US. I think it is good for this guy to have the physical conditioning regimen of Sonny Thoss. Sonny had great improvement in the recent PBA conference, maybe Greg could also benefit from the training that Sonny had.
hari ng basketball
08-07-2007, 07:36 AM
Maybe sometime he will end up in showbiz like paras did.
Trans: Pang Showbiz ang fafa! hahahahha:D
do you mean slaughter will lost his hair too?:D
speaking of paras, do you watch some of his interview in t.v. specially his rpn9 show finishline, dammm man! he always critisize our fil-am specially those who are in the rp team!!!! he said that its all ryt to loose but with the real filipino... man, i cannot understand his mind, having born with diff. nationalty it's not their fault for not becoming full blooded pinoy...... just consider them an asset specially in basketball because of their height and skills......
comment plssssssssss..............
Gabe Norwood
08-07-2007, 07:37 AM
Maybe someone can sponsor him to attend BIG MAN Camps in the US. I think it is good for this guy to have the physical conditioning regimen of Sonny Thoss. Sonny had great improvement in the recent PBA conference, maybe Greg could also benefit from the training that Sonny had.
Yeah i think he is better than EJ since i havent seen EJ dunked the ball in all his PBA games.
thugpinoy
08-07-2007, 07:43 AM
do you mean slaughter will lost his hair too?:D
speaking of paras, do you watch some of his interview in t.v. specially his rpn9 show finishline, dammm man! he always critisize our fil-am specially those who are in the rp team!!!! he said that its all ryt to loose but with the real filipino... man, i cannot understand his mind, having born with diff. nationalty it's not their fault for not becoming full blooded pinoy...... just consider them an asset specially in basketball because of their height and skills......
comment plssssssssss..............
He's married to a Fil-Am before.. now having a relationship with a Fil-Am.. ;)
hari ng basketball
08-07-2007, 07:44 AM
I really like gabe's playing skills, he so versatile in his size but he's lack of shooting specially in the rainbow area prevent him to be a great player....
If he improve on that department, I think he can dominate in the asian level.
Imagine this a 6'6 point guard with a deadly 3 point shot combined with his long wingspan for defensive purposes......WOW, his the REAL DEAL!!!!!!!!!!
PILIPINAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RP TEAM!
gtrek
08-07-2007, 07:45 AM
go go philippines!!! (my first post here!)
kerouac82
08-07-2007, 08:52 AM
He's married to a Fil-Am before.. now having a relationship with a Fil-Am.. ;)
And let's not forget that his full name is Venancio Johnson Paras.
donlyn
08-07-2007, 09:18 AM
And let's not forget that his full name is Venancio Johnson Paras.
he is half breed also.
bolabasket
08-07-2007, 10:17 AM
Slaughter is promising...he just needs proper trainign and guidance...and AVOID SHOWBIZ!
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x287/GearX_2007/Slaughter.jpg
saints13
08-07-2007, 11:05 AM
Slaughter is promising...he just needs proper trainign and guidance...and AVOID SHOWBIZ!
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x287/GearX_2007/Slaughter.jpg
hahaha, is that possible? :D
even Jerry Codinera (his look-alike), Jun Limpot, Bong Alvarez and Alvin Patrimonio got their fair shares of cameo in Philippine Movies. :D
btw, Asi Taulava had a movie too, he was the BF of Tanya Garcia in the movie of Robin Padilla and Judy Ann Santos "Genie, Bakit Ngayon Ka Lang". :D
I think, with that height and goodlooks, plus the hype he'll create, definitely, he'll have his fair share of TV exposures if not movie exposures. :D
we might see "DUNKING DONATO PART 2" in the near future..LOL :D
joel23
08-07-2007, 11:44 AM
Yeah i think he is better than EJ since i havent seen EJ dunked the ball in all his PBA games.
EJ Feihl's dunked 2 times using one hand in his PBA career.
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