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Cool_Enz
06-21-2007, 04:52 PM
A thread devoted to the locally bred Filipino-Foreign (Half Filipino/Half Foreigner or foreign descendants) basketball players like Robert Jaworski, Atoy Co, Lim Eng Beng, Willie Miller, Marc Pingris, Gabby Espinas etc…

Past and present, professional or amateur, popular or not…

From Charles Borck to Kurt Bachmann to Jason Castro…

Post all their names here (if possible, indicate also their foreign lineage e.g. Fil-Am, Fil-Chinese etc…)

:)

pachador
06-21-2007, 04:58 PM
this is a good thread because it will make those narrow-minded posters realize the fiction of 100% blood filipino. The truth is that the filipino is one of the most mongrelized or mixed-blood people on earth , and getting even more mixed as the years go by due to 4 reasons:
1.) massive immigration to other countries
2.) massive immigration of other nationalities to the philippines
3.) massive inter-racial marriages
4.) successive invasions and colonizations of the philippines resulting in further racial intermixing



A thread devoted to the locallly bred Filipino-Foreign (Half Filipino/Half Foreigner or foreign descendants) basketball players like Robert Jaworski, Atoy Co, Lim Eng Beng, Willie Miller, Marc Pingris, Gabby Espinas etc…

Past and present, professional or amateur, popular or not…

From Charles Borck to Kurt Bachmann to Jason Castro…

Post all their names here (if possible, indicate also their foreign lineage e.g. Fil-Am, Fil-Chinese etc…)

:)

pinoy pac fan
06-21-2007, 05:11 PM
this is a good thread because it will make those narrow-minded posters realize the fiction of 100% blood filipino. The truth is that the filipino is one of the most mongrelized or mixed-blood people on earth , and getting even more mixed as the years go by due to 4 reasons:
1.) massive immigration to other countries
2.) massive immigration of other nationalities to the philippines
3.) massive inter-racial marriages
4.) successive invasions and colonizations of the philippines resulting in further racial intermixing

A player simply being a mixed race filipino isnt what bothers me. Its their state of mind and their attitude. You can be the whitest player (Alex Compton) but with the way he acts and handles himself, he's a real Pinoy in my eyes. Compare that to some full blooded Filipinos who grew up in the states, and they think their more American than Americans. And Im not just talking basketball players now, just some Fil-Ams in general.

They are coconuts. Brown on the outside and white on the inside.

pachador
06-21-2007, 05:35 PM
you are absolutely correct. speaking about attitudes and behaviors of players that would be a separate thread. both fil-ams and home-growns have bad apples.


A player simply being a mixed race filipino isnt what bothers me. Its their state of mind and their attitude. You can be the whitest player (Alex Compton) but with the way he acts and handles himself, he's a real Pinoy in my eyes. Compare that to some full blooded Filipinos who grew up in the states, and they think their more American than Americans. And Im not just talking basketball players now, just some Fil-Ams in general.

They are coconuts. Brown on the outside and white on the inside.

Phantim3dx
06-21-2007, 06:47 PM
i like apples, they taste delicious. i wish i could be eating an apple right now. it goes good after eating 6 cheeseburgers.

thayil
06-22-2007, 02:01 AM
i like apples, they taste delicious. i wish i could be eating an apple right now. it goes good after eating 6 cheeseburgers.

HAHA! Astig!

bolabasket
06-22-2007, 06:28 AM
this is a good thread because it will make those narrow-minded posters realize the fiction of 100% blood filipino. The truth is that the filipino is one of the most mongrelized or mixed-blood people on earth , and getting even more mixed as the years go by due to 4 reasons:
1.) massive immigration to other countries
2.) massive immigration of other nationalities to the philippines
3.) massive inter-racial marriages
4.) successive invasions and colonizations of the philippines resulting in further racial intermixing

Agree.
1. RP has long been ally of the West (hence, the Americans)
2. RP is the only Christian Nation in Asia (hence, mixed with Spanish blood-mestizos)
3. RP women are very beautiful, loving, understanding, etc.. (hence, inter-marriage with other Nationals)

Phantim3dx
06-22-2007, 07:50 AM
pinays i dont think are the most beautiful..the wildest girls in bed you bet. pinay girls i think are such dreams for foreigners cuz they know how to "act like a lady on the streets, but are freaks in the sheets"....so true for all the fil-am and homegrown pinays ive dated and made into FUBU's

friedbrains
06-22-2007, 09:21 AM
pinays i dont think are the most beautiful..the wildest girls in bed you bet. pinay girls i think are such dreams for foreigners cuz they know how to "act like a lady on the streets, but are freaks in the sheets"....so true for all the fil-am and homegrown pinays ive dated and made into FUBU's

the problem with generalizations is that neanderthals might believe them to be true. pinay FUBU's? freaks in sheets???

kung wala kang masabing matino, h'wag ka na lang magsalita!!!

(if you have nothing nice to say, then shut the fuck up!!!!)

this thread is really way out of topic. but the problem with this thread is the fact that most pinoys above 6 feet have foreign blood. maybe the more appropriate question is who has got pure pinoy blood?

bonel balingit
raul dillo
alaska'a reynel hugnatan

these guys look like 100% noypi. (filipino)

but then again, i cannot be sure. by historical accident, pinoys are a melting pot.

DaveMap2007
06-22-2007, 10:31 AM
Robert Sonny Jaworksi.........Polish blood

demonyito
06-22-2007, 12:06 PM
i wonder if nelson asaytono is partly japanese? as-say-tono wakaru?
and look at his face..

also Yves dignadice, abe king(american indian), those lasalites lago brothers, viaplana, jason webb, ej feihl, jeffrey sanders of TIP, benjie johnson paras, graham lim, go teng kok, phil rodman, ronnie natahnielz(tamil tiger)..marami pare

i refuse to include samboy, he is exceptional. lets call him samboy na lang:)

onono1
06-22-2007, 02:08 PM
pinays i dont think are the most beautiful..the wildest girls in bed you bet. pinay girls i think are such dreams for foreigners cuz they know how to "act like a lady on the streets, but are freaks in the sheets"....so true for all the fil-am and homegrown pinays ive dated and made into FUBU's


Hey mister phantimdengxiaoping your "FUBU" escapades are quite interesting..ball, beer and banging around you are mixing :p

Cool_Enz
06-22-2007, 04:50 PM
Many homegrown Filipino-Foreign players are often referred to as Amerasians, and many of them originated from the Zambales and Pampanga areas.. They may look different from the traditional Malayan Filipino look but they are still as Pinoy as bagoong and tuyo... :)

Here's a short list (W/ African-American blood)
Willie Miller
Nino Canaleta
Omanzie Rodriquez
Michael (Topex) Robinson
Jason Castro
Gabby Espinas
Arnold Booker
Jeffrey Sanders

:)

Fil-Aus Boy
06-22-2007, 08:50 PM
i wonder if nelson asaytono is partly japanese? as-say-tono wakaru?
and look at his face..

also Yves dignadice, abe king(american indian), those lasalites lago brothers, viaplana, jason webb, ej feihl, jeffrey sanders of TIP, benjie johnson paras, graham lim, go teng kok, phil rodman, ronnie natahnielz(tamil tiger)..marami pare

i refuse to include samboy, he is exceptional. lets call him samboy na lang:)

Phil Rodman.....?

dreamwalker
06-22-2007, 11:18 PM
Phil Rodman.....?

what about ASI TAU LAMANG ?:D

pachador
06-22-2007, 11:41 PM
During spanish times, French and British immigrants settled in Negros island and put up sugar haciendas and intermarried with the native women. I believe one of the descendants is Fritz Gaston who played in the PBA.

Other French immigrants were actually sailors who settled down in the philippines. one of this sailor's descendants is 6 foot Oca Cabrera who played for Mapua in the late 1980s. a governor of Laguna before was a of mixed french-filipino descent. He is Governor Cailles who was a flamboyant revolutionary general for Aguinaldo who liked to wear bright blue uniforms and sunglasses when going to war. I remember we had a french-filipino family as a neighbor in cagayan de oro whose last name is Fournier. I also had a gf in quezon city during the 1990s whose father was french but she liked to lift barbell weights too much at the gym hehe. Marc Pingris at 6'3" is french-pangasinense diba?

There were also German immigrants including German jews who fled from hitler through Russia then they ended up in the Philippines. some settled in manila, others in cebu. i have met some of their descendants. There is a german ancestry player father and son who both played for La Salle, 6'4" Kurt Bachmann and his son another 6'4" Bachmann.

During the 1900s till the 1930s, the american govt gave homestead farms to hundreds of american soldiers in Momungan , Lanao (now called BAroy or Baloi). These soldiers married the visayan native women in the area. one of these american soldiers is my great-grandfather. During the same period, thousands of japanese immigrants settled in davao and intermarried with the women. There are also thousands of Indonesian settlers in Davao and cotabato who fled from indonesia in the 1960s to 1970s, and all over mindanao, you see 'turko' filipinos who are descendants from syrian and lebanese settlers in the 19th century. one of the descendants with last name of 'Saab' was my chick back then. there were also lebanese settlers in luzon as well .

By the way, according to a pex poster, there is a 6'8" kid at agro high school in davao. and his last name is Almagordo. anybody can confirm this?

Today, there are also thousands of european retirees in palawan, cebu, bohol, mindanao and other bisayan islands married to native women and their kids will be part of the future of philippine basketball. for example , Rico Maieoffer of La Salle is from Palawan i believe.
and in the news last week, there are now 92,000 korean immigrants in the philippines(source of filipino shin-dong-pa and filipino hur-jae =) and there are also 60,000 plus bombays according to same news.

pachador
06-22-2007, 11:45 PM
some mixed blood Filipino-Arab or Filipino-Muslim basketball players in the Philippines :

Rabeh Al Hussaini 6'7" Ateneo university of Manila

Carlo Sharma 6'6" Red Bull PBA team

Mike Hrabak(? not sure) 6'6" Red Bull PBA team

Gerry Samlani 6'5" ex-PBA UTEX team 1980s

Nur JamJam Alfad 6'3" Henkel team in PBL(division 2 commercial league)

Mustapa Khader 6'7" ex-player from Cotabato area 1970s

Yousif Aljamal 6'4" Magnolia PBL team

There is a new player for La salle university whose father is an Arab from Bahrain. his name is Bader Malabes. I don't know his height.

pachador
06-22-2007, 11:48 PM
Some filipino players of German descent :

Kurt Bachmann Jr. - 6'4" - he played in the 1950s in the Philippine team that won 3rd place bronze medal in FIBA-World . He had a German father, reportedly impressed Kareem Abdul Jabbar in an exhibition match between the US and the Philippines in 1954. Jabbar, who was known as Lew Alcindor then, reportedly borrowed Bachmann's hook shot.

Richard Bachmann - 6'4" - son of Kurt Bachmann - he played for La Salle University then later on in a PBA team in the 1980s. now assistant coach for Alaska PBA team.

Johnny Worrel - member of Philippine basketball team that placed 5th in 1936 Berlin Olympics

Charles Borck - 6'1" - member of Philippine basketball team that placed 5th in 1936 Berlin Olympics

Joachim Thoss - 6'7" - player for Alaska PBA team

Freddie Webb -5'11" - member of Philippine basketball team in the 1972 Munich Olympics where they won 3 games and lost 6 games.

Fil-Aus Boy
06-23-2007, 12:04 AM
Don't forget Mukesh Advani...(Indian descent) Ginebra all the way, baby.... and Michael Singh of Ateneo (during Eric Reyes time)

pachador
06-23-2007, 12:16 AM
I think Danny Pribhdas who played in the PBA was also of Indian descent.


Don't forget Mukesh Advani...(Indian descent) Ginebra all the way, baby.... and Michael Singh of Ateneo (during Eric Reyes time)

pachador
06-23-2007, 12:24 AM
There is also Fil-Nigerian Jobe Nkemakolam at 6'4". is he with Ateneo university right now?
are there other mixed Fil-nigerians or Fil-Africans? (not including Ekwe because he is 100% nigerian...)

ahh, there's Aaron Black, son of Norman Black, african-american, exPBA import player. he is still a kid, mga 10 yrs old ba yun?

Fil-Aus Boy
06-23-2007, 12:49 AM
I don't know man... i haven't been back for a long while... Ritchie Ticzon is my classmate before.. Dang! I'm revealing my age now...

demonyito
06-23-2007, 01:05 AM
Some filipino players of German descent :

Kurt Bachmann Jr. - 6'4" - he played in the 1950s in the Philippine team that won 3rd place bronze medal in FIBA-World . He had a German father, reportedly impressed Kareem Abdul Jabbar in an exhibition match between the US and the Philippines in 1954. Jabbar, who was known as Lew Alcindor then, reportedly borrowed Bachmann's hook shot.

Richard Bachmann - 6'4" - son of Kurt Bachmann - he played for La Salle University then later on in a PBA team in the 1980s. now assistant coach for Alaska PBA team.



i believe you mr. pachman. in fact richard bachman was the only 6'5 filipino who truly moves like an nba center with those ambidextrous hooks.

and speaking of that Jabbar connection, what it has to do with Roberto Jabar(aside from the missing "R")? although i did not see Roberto does those hook shots ..only slamma jamma but probably you can enlighten us too about the underrated Roberto Jabar

reamily
06-23-2007, 02:21 AM
pare ang rivalry di fil-am at pure pinoys kundi homegrowns versus foreign bred players kaya nagkakapulitika ang basketbol sa pilipinas dahil dito

pachador
06-23-2007, 03:14 AM
Roberto Jabar played for cagayan de oro Amigos in the MBA back in the 1990s . He was known to have a high vertical leap and he like to hansak or pansak the ball(slamdunk). his playing style is the bisaya style of robo-robo lots of slashing and rugged play. Lastimosa who is also from Cagayan de oro was also robo-robo rugged player. in fact, back then in cagayan de oro, we did not like to take outside shots because it was only for the girls. we had to make bale-bale twisting acrobatic shots in the painted area because it was the macho thing to do. looking back on it , i know now it was bad fundamental basketball. :( .......



i believe you mr. pachman. in fact richard bachman was the only 6'5 filipino who truly moves like an nba center with those ambidextrous hooks.

and speaking of that Jabbar connection, what it has to do with Roberto Jabar(aside from the missing "R")? although i did not see Roberto does those hook shots ..only slamma jamma but probably you can enlighten us too about the underrated Roberto Jabar

ctongco
06-23-2007, 04:16 AM
Roberto Jabar played for cagayan de oro Amigos in the MBA back in the 1990s . He was known to have a high vertical leap and he like to hansak or pansak the ball(slamdunk). his playing style is the bisaya style of robo-robo lots of slashing and rugged play. Lastimosa who is also from Cagayan de oro was also robo-robo rugged player. in fact, back then in cagayan de oro, we did not like to take outside shots because it was only for the girls. we had to make bale-bale twisting acrobatic shots in the painted area because it was the macho thing to do. looking back on it , i know now it was bad fundamental basketball. :( .......


Off-topic: Are you from Cagayan de Oro? If so, where did you play ball there?

bolabasket
06-23-2007, 04:24 AM
Roberto Jabar played for cagayan de oro Amigos in the MBA back in the 1990s . He was known to have a high vertical leap and he like to hansak or pansak the ball(slamdunk). his playing style is the bisaya style of robo-robo lots of slashing and rugged play. Lastimosa who is also from Cagayan de oro was also robo-robo rugged player. in fact, back then in cagayan de oro, we did not like to take outside shots because it was only for the girls. we had to make bale-bale twisting acrobatic shots in the painted area because it was the macho thing to do. looking back on it , i know now it was bad fundamental basketball. :( .......

Roberto "Jun" Jabar, Jr. was a 6-2 slasher type of player from CDO and first gained national focus while playing for the defunct-Crispa in the PABL alongside Johnny Abarrientos, Victor Pablo and Kevin Ramas. He was drafted in the PBA and played a few years with then Pepsi as a legit scorer (unstoppable on fastbrakes), acrobatic shots and stingy defense (due to an exceptional large wingspan). When Fil-Ams began arriving in the PBA, he somewhat disappeared in the limelight but resurfaced later in the MBA playing for his home team CDO Nuggets together with ex-pros Peter Naron, Sonny Cabatu and Manny Victorino. When the MBA folded up, he played in some minor leagues in VISMIN area.

pachador
06-23-2007, 04:32 AM
yes, i grew up in cagayan de oro but i only studied there till 1st year high school but kept going back every summer lang usually. since then i have been living in los angeles..
other players from misamis oriental/cagayan de oro, northern and eastern mindanao area include donbel belano of ginebra, ex-PBA marlowe "jumping jack" Jacutin, 6'9" Balingit(Lanao), 6'5" Omolon, ex-PBA 6'5" Realubit(Gingoog city yata), 6'4" Zandro Limpot, 6'5" Guidaben(Camiguin island) . Also i think the marata brothers: Ric-Ric and Bong Marata( his nephew is Cyrus "Dunk you" Baguio is from iligan) , and many more..



Off-topic: Are you from Cagayan de Oro? If so, where did you play ball there?

bolabasket
06-23-2007, 04:35 AM
yes, i grew up in cagayan de oro but i only studied there till 1st year high school but kept going back every summer lang usually. since then i have been living in los angeles..
other players from misamis oriental/cagayan de oro, northern and eastern mindanao area include donbel belano of ginebra, ex-PBA marlowe "jumping jack" Jacutin, 6'9" Balingit(Lanao), 6'5" Omolon, ex-PBA 6'5" Realubit(Gingoog city yata), 6'4" Zandro Limpot, 6'5" Guidaben(Camiguin island) Ric-Ric and Bong Marata( his nephew is Cyrus "Dunk you" Baguio) , and many more..

also include Egay Echavez of Ozamiz City.

ctongco
06-23-2007, 04:38 AM
yes, i grew up in cagayan de oro but i only studied there till 1st year high school but kept going back every summer lang usually. since then i have been living in los angeles..
other players from misamis oriental/cagayan de oro, northern and eastern mindanao area include donbel belano of ginebra, ex-PBA marlowe "jumping jack" Jacutin, 6'9" Balingit(Lanao), 6'5" Omolon, ex-PBA 6'5" Realubit(Gingoog city yata), 6'4" Zandro Limpot, 6'5" Guidaben(Camiguin island) Ric-Ric and Bong Marata( his nephew is Cyrus "Dunk you" Baguio) , and many more..


High-flyers Cyrus Baguio and Aaron Aban are from this region.

bolabasket
06-23-2007, 04:54 AM
High-flyers Cyrus Baguio and Aaron Aban are from this region.

Yup I forgot about Aaron Aban...he improved a lot in Letran and PBL. He has also bulked his body in the PBA. He did not have a jumpshot before when he played in CDO.

A player to watch in the coming UAAP is 6'4 G/F JR Cawaling of FEU (terrific long range shooter and power dunker) who studied high school in CDO. He could be part of the RP Youth Team.

pachador
06-23-2007, 05:18 AM
there is a new high school giant from cagayan de oro. he is 6'7" yata Paredes last name.


Yup I forgot about Aaron Aban...he improved a lot in Letran and PBL. He has also bulked his body in the PBA. He did not have a jumpshot before when he played in CDO.

A player to watch in the coming UAAP is 6'4 G/F JR Cawaling of FEU (terrific long range shooter and power dunker) who studied high school in CDO. He could be part of the RP Youth Team.

Butata
06-23-2007, 05:26 AM
Going back to the topic....Oldtimers will surely remember that Rudy Hines and Johnny Revilla are also of African-American descent....Then there was Rudolf Kutch and half-Aussie Steve Watson :)

vladski
06-23-2007, 05:34 AM
By the way, according to a pex poster, there is a 6'8" kid at agro high school in davao. and his last name is Almagordo. anybody can confirm this?



Hmmm... I am from Davao City... which part of Davao this kid is playing???

I can ask my younger brother who is an active varsity baller in one of the Universities there.

Been a while since the last time i visited the place.

pachador
06-23-2007, 07:44 AM
heres the original post from pinoyexchange forum (with edits):

Originally Posted by WackoMatt at PEX:
13. Rabeh Al-Hussaini - 6'7 (Ateneo)
14. Dave Marcelo - 6'5 (San Beda)
15. Elvin Pascual - 6'5 (PCU jrs.)
16. Vince Fran - 6'5 (LSGH)
17. Justin Chua - 6'6 (Chang Kai Shek)
18. Philip Paredes - 6'7 (incoming San Beda HS sophomore)- from cagayan de oro
19. ? Almagordo - 6'8 (AGRO HS Davao) -young Davao giant - anyone confirm?
20. Jonas Paguia - 6-5 (FEU)
21. JR Cawaling 6-5 (FEU) - from cagayan de oro
22. Rico Maierhoffer 6-6 (DLSU) -from palawan

pinoy pac fan
06-23-2007, 12:02 PM
Kurt Bachmann Jr. - 6'4" - he played in the 1950s in the Philippine team that won 3rd place bronze medal in FIBA-World . He had a German father, reportedly impressed Kareem Abdul Jabbar in an exhibition match between the US and the Philippines in 1954. Jabbar, who was known as Lew Alcindor then, reportedly borrowed Bachmann's hook shot.

I know for certain that Lew Alcindor (Jabbar) developed a hookshot because

A. He was a big fan of the Minneapolis Lakers center George Mikan, the most dominant player at that time, who had a right handed and left handed sweeping hook shot.

B. He was so tall as a youngster that the Catholic priest in his elementary school taught him how to make a sweeping hookshot, being such a big kid, the priest knew once big Lew learned how to shoot like that, nobody's gonna have a chance of blocking his shot.

C. In the 1960s era of the US NCAA, dunking was strictly prohibited, and Lew Alcindor was "forced" to just make graceful mid range sky hooks instead of powering it in for a dunk shot..

And as time went on he developed his own style. The one foot take-off, full arm extension, wrist flick at the top of his leap.. The Sky Hook. :cool:

RayV
06-23-2007, 02:28 PM
So far I have noticed there are tons of talents coming from the south especially big guys and high leapers... It looks like we oughta look deeper here rather than focusing too much in NCR... :D

Cool_Enz
06-23-2007, 03:36 PM
some mixed blood Filipino-Arab or Filipino-Muslim basketball players in the Philippines :

Rabeh Al Hussaini 6'7" Ateneo university of Manila

Carlo Sharma 6'6" Red Bull PBA team

Mike Hrabak(? not sure) 6'6" Red Bull PBA team

Gerry Samlani 6'5" ex-PBA UTEX team 1980s

Nur JamJam Alfad 6'3" Henkel team in PBL(division 2 commercial league)

Mustapa Khader 6'7" ex-player from Cotabato area 1970s

Yousif Aljamal 6'4" Magnolia PBL team

There is a new player for La salle university whose father is an Arab from Bahrain. his name is Bader Malabes. I don't know his height.

Omar Asmad - Played for Philippine Christian University (PCU) some years back. He's based in the Middle East now.

Saleh Yousif - Fil-Bahraini who briefly saw action for San Beda College.

Mujahid Omar Moses Ampatuan - Played for San Sebastian College in last year's NCAA. He's from Cotabato.

Ferdinand Ali-Ali - Played for Perpetual Help a few years back. I'm just not sure though if he's Muslim.
:)

Cool_Enz
06-25-2007, 11:45 AM
There is also Fil-Nigerian Jobe Nkemakolam at 6'4". are there other mixed Fil-nigerians or Fil-Africans? (not including Ekwe because he is 100% nigerian...)?

Another Filipino-Nigerian player is Sammy Ayodelle of the University of Baguio. He had a forgettable stint with Shark Energy Drink in the PBL.

Speaking of Sam Ekwe, I remember two other African imports who played varsity ball here before.

Smith Jallah - Who can forget the so-called Lion from Liberia who saw action for the PSBA Jaguars. Had a short stint with the Socsargen Marlins in the defunct MBA.

Omar Liban Ali - Tall Somalian player who played two years for the UE Warriors in the UAAP. :)

demonyito
06-25-2007, 11:47 AM
Nap Hatton(?) and Brixter Encarnacion of Baste

also Eric Abdulah of Mapua

Dinamita
06-25-2007, 05:36 PM
Another Filipino-Nigerian player is Sammy Ayodelle of the University of Baguio. He had a forgettable stint with Shark Energy Drink in the PBL.

Speaking of Sam Ekwe, I remember two other African imports who played varsity ball here before.

Smith Jallah - Who can forget the so-called Lion from Liberia who saw action for the PSBA Jaguars. Had a short stint with the Socsargen Marlins in the defunct MBA.

Omar Liban Ali - Tall Somalian player who played two years for the UE Warriors in the UAAP. :)

I think SAMMY played for SLU not UB... he's the only black guy in the league....he's more like AMERASIAN... he grew up in the philippines and speaks ilocano fluently...

pachador
06-26-2007, 01:33 AM
your probably right on this one as the hook shot connection between bachmann and alcindor came from a pinoy trivia page which could possibly be incorrect. looks like your info about Mikan came from an autobiography book.


I know for certain that Lew Alcindor (Jabbar) developed a hookshot because

A. He was a big fan of the Minneapolis Lakers center George Mikan, the most dominant player at that time, who had a right handed and left handed sweeping hook shot.

B. He was so tall as a youngster that the Catholic priest in his elementary school taught him how to make a sweeping hookshot, being such a big kid, the priest knew once big Lew learned how to shoot like that, nobody's gonna have a chance of blocking his shot.

C. In the 1960s era of the US NCAA, dunking was strictly prohibited, and Lew Alcindor was "forced" to just make graceful mid range sky hooks instead of powering it in for a dunk shot..

And as time went on he developed his own style. The one foot take-off, full arm extension, wrist flick at the top of his leap.. The Sky Hook. :cool:

kerouac82
06-26-2007, 01:37 AM
I think SAMMY played for SLU not UB... he's the only black guy in the league....he's more like AMERASIAN... he grew up in the philippines and speaks ilocano fluently...
I saw him playing for UB at the Champions' League qualifiers a few years back. UB is the perennial basketball powerhouse in Baguio, not SLU.

VII
06-26-2007, 02:38 AM
I know for certain that Lew Alcindor (Jabbar) developed a hookshot because

A. He was a big fan of the Minneapolis Lakers center George Mikan, the most dominant player at that time, who had a right handed and left handed sweeping hook shot.

B. He was so tall as a youngster that the Catholic priest in his elementary school taught him how to make a sweeping hookshot, being such a big kid, the priest knew once big Lew learned how to shoot like that, nobody's gonna have a chance of blocking his shot.

C. In the 1960s era of the US NCAA, dunking was strictly prohibited, and Lew Alcindor was "forced" to just make graceful mid range sky hooks instead of powering it in for a dunk shot..

And as time went on he developed his own style. The one foot take-off, full arm extension, wrist flick at the top of his leap.. The Sky Hook. :cool:

aaaahh they sky hook...an extinct skill...
last player i saw use it was the el presidente fernandez....
i wonder why no one uses it anymore...
i mean its really hard to stop when the player your trying to stop has mastered it...
i remember 3 years ago theres this white lanky tall guy that i played against couldnt force his way on post...but he doesnt need to coz once he gets into a position close enough for his hook...he nails it..
and i remember the only way we can stop him is foul him before the shot or send him to the free throw as he sucks on FT...just like what they used to do with shaq...
so if any tall there can use this and master it? its a graceful thing to watch...
provided that hes not doing it against your team..

Dinamita
06-26-2007, 03:25 AM
I saw him playing for UB at the Champions' League qualifiers a few years back. UB is the perennial basketball powerhouse in Baguio, not SLU.

Its a champions league.. He's probably a Reinforcement in that tournament...


But during Baguio Educational Athletic League in short BEAL he plays for SLU....

BEAL is like UAAP and NCAA...

Sammy is an ECE major at SLU....
He was a former classmate of my cousin... :)

If you go visit the UB gym and watch them practice... There's a lot of players who is not even part of their team... Lots of them plays in MANILA univ's.... some are PBL standouts..... if there's any team from other school who plays there for tune up... UB acquire players from SLU and BCF... coz some players cant attend the game because they have classes...

kerouac82
06-26-2007, 03:57 AM
Its a champions league.. He's probably a Reinforcement in that tournament...


But during Baguio Educational Athletic League in short BEAL he plays for SLU....

BEAL is like UAAP and NCAA...

Sammy is an ECE major at SLU....
He was a former classmate of my cousin... :)

If you go visit the UB gym and watch them practice... There's a lot of players who is not even part of their team... Lots of them plays in MANILA univ's.... some are PBL standouts..... if there's any team from other school who plays there for tune up... UB acquire players from SLU and BCF... coz some players cant attend the game because they have classes...

Thanks for the info. BTW, wasn't Ayodele a part of that RP-Lhuillier team along with Sam Eman?

donrivera21
06-26-2007, 05:53 AM
Thanks for the info. BTW, wasn't Ayodele a part of that RP-Lhuillier team along with Sam Eman?





yes.!! correct. together with kg canaleta, jerry cavan, ricky calimag, eder saldua.

bolabasket
06-26-2007, 05:55 AM
yes.!! correct. together with kg canaleta, jerry cavan, ricky calimag, eder saldua.
Sammy is playing with Hotel Fortuna Firefly. Here's the score of that MVBA-SBL game yesterday in Cebu.

HOTEL FORTUNA FIREFLY (90) – Saladaga 18, Kalaw 16, Cruz 15, Mangahas 13, Go 11, Marata 8, Hardin 3, Santa Cruz 2, Ayodele 2, Matias 2, Cabili 0, Guiyab 0.

HOLCIM PRYCE-MISOR (88) – Concha 21, Briones 20, Tagupa 15, Gonzales 10, Abadia 8, Nailon 4, Ababon 3, Sevilla 3, Navales 4, Apepe 0, Numeran 0, Jabagat 0.

Period Scores: 32-17, 42-44, 72-71, 90-88.

saints13
06-26-2007, 05:55 AM
what about KG Canaleta? what's his lineage aside from being Filipino by blood?

pinoy pac fan
06-26-2007, 08:34 AM
aaaahh they sky hook...an extinct skill...
last player i saw use it was the el presidente fernandez....
i wonder why no one uses it anymore...
i mean its really hard to stop when the player your trying to stop has mastered it...
i remember 3 years ago theres this white lanky tall guy that i played against couldnt force his way on post...but he doesnt need to coz once he gets into a position close enough for his hook...he nails it..
and i remember the only way we can stop him is foul him before the shot or send him to the free throw as he sucks on FT...just like what they used to do with shaq...
so if any tall there can use this and master it? its a graceful thing to watch...
provided that hes not doing it against your team..

Actually, Ramon Fernandez never had the sky hook in his arsenal. No disrespect to his talent though, coz I havent seen anybody get the exact mechanics, rythym and follow-through of the Jabbar skyhook. Not in the PBA, not in thr NBA, not anywhere.

Fernandez had a one footed jump hook, a two footed jump hook, and a graceful running hook shot. But he didnt have the skyhook. A skyhook feels like a f*cking windmill came to life, posted you up on the block, and shot the ball on top of you.

Actually, its not that hard to learn to shoot a skyhook, but mastering it takes regular practice, as much time as you would use to improve your jumpshots. Ive studied this shot because its so beautiful and graceful, and you dont need to always be under the basket to be an effective offensive post player. The shot's sweet spot is from point blank range to 8 feet away from the basket, for me at least. Nowadays, nobody wants to learn a shot that they think makes you look like a p*ssy.

VII
06-27-2007, 01:52 AM
Actually, Ramon Fernandez never had the sky hook in his arsenal. No disrespect to his talent though, coz I havent seen anybody get the exact mechanics, rythym and follow-through of the Jabbar skyhook. Not in the PBA, not in thr NBA, not anywhere.

Fernandez had a one footed jump hook, a two footed jump hook, and a graceful running hook shot. But he didnt have the skyhook. A skyhook feels like a f*cking windmill came to life, posted you up on the block, and shot the ball on top of you.

Actually, its not that hard to learn to shoot a skyhook, but mastering it takes regular practice, as much time as you would use to improve your jumpshots. Ive studied this shot because its so beautiful and graceful, and you dont need to always be under the basket to be an effective offensive post player. The shot's sweet spot is from point blank range to 8 feet away from the basket, for me at least. Nowadays, nobody wants to learn a shot that they think makes you look like a p*ssy.

you know that theory that white men prefer to win than look good?
and black men prefer to look good than to win?
(quote from white men can't jump)
i wonder if theres any for asian..
i supposed we do since we follow nba like a religion..

since jordan, iverson, and AND1 started showing up on our tv...
old school moves died...
cross over dribbles, fancy footwork and elevation became the number one focus of the game where ever you go...on pick up games, i hate playing against street baller...they think theyre jason williams..so i always make it my personal mission to shut him down to make a point that street ball does not have a place in hardwood court...and i dont know if they realise it but they look idiotic with those dribbles and couldnt even make an open jump shot...

anyway i think old school move is dead...skyhook is dead...running jumper is dead...well not really but only a handful use it now...

donlyn
06-27-2007, 03:03 AM
Actually, Ramon Fernandez never had the sky hook in his arsenal. No disrespect to his talent though, coz I havent seen anybody get the exact mechanics, rythym and follow-through of the Jabbar skyhook. Not in the PBA, not in thr NBA, not anywhere.

Fernandez had a one footed jump hook, a two footed jump hook, and a graceful running hook shot. But he didnt have the skyhook. A skyhook feels like a f*cking windmill came to life, posted you up on the block, and shot the ball on top of you.
Actually, its not that hard to learn to shoot a skyhook, but mastering it takes regular practice, as much time as you would use to improve your jumpshots. Ive studied this shot because its so beautiful and graceful, and you dont need to always be under the basket to be an effective offensive post player. The shot's sweet spot is from point blank range to 8 feet away from the basket, for me at least. Nowadays, nobody wants to learn a shot that they think makes you look like a p*ssy.

It is called the legant shot... by PBA panel.:cool:

donlyn
06-27-2007, 03:04 AM
Actually, Ramon Fernandez never had the sky hook in his arsenal. No disrespect to his talent though, coz I havent seen anybody get the exact mechanics, rythym and follow-through of the Jabbar skyhook. Not in the PBA, not in thr NBA, not anywhere.

Fernandez had a one footed jump hook, a two footed jump hook, and a graceful running hook shot. But he didnt have the skyhook. A skyhook feels like a f*cking windmill came to life, posted you up on the block, and shot the ball on top of you.
Actually, its not that hard to learn to shoot a skyhook, but mastering it takes regular practice, as much time as you would use to improve your jumpshots. Ive studied this shot because its so beautiful and graceful, and you dont need to always be under the basket to be an effective offensive post player. The shot's sweet spot is from point blank range to 8 feet away from the basket, for me at least. Nowadays, nobody wants to learn a shot that they think makes you look like a p*ssy.

It is called the elegant shot... by PBA panel.:cool:

Cool_Enz
06-28-2007, 04:10 PM
Fortunato Co
Lim Eng Beng
Alvin Teng
Wilmer Ong
Richard Yee
Tyrone Tang
Joseph Yeo
Charles Tan
Ferdie Go
Reynold So
Junie Lopez
Kenneth Coyukang
:cool:

DaveMap2007
06-28-2007, 05:39 PM
Way back in the late 90's and early 2000's....St Francis of Assisi boast one of the tallest lineup in Philippine College except for the Old Adamson team (MArlou , EJ and Giovani Pineda).........It consist of 6'9 Yancy De Ocampo, 6'5 Ranidel De Ocampo, 6'7 Ervin Sotto and 6'10 Frederick Canlas 6'7 Lawrence Bonus 6'7 Jefrrey Milla.....but aside for these guys one didnt reach the PBA he was around 6'5-6'7 Kiram who use to play at Small Forward...Native of Zamboanga i think.........Presently at UPHR ( just kilometers a way from St Francis) have 6'4 Vladimer Joe ( Amerasian).......UPHR used to have a strong team during the Jojo manalo years....includes 6'6 Jun Carmona, 6'5 Arnel Manalac, 6'3 Bernard Tanpua and the 6'8 Francis Bacon (Demised)

bolabasket
06-29-2007, 04:47 AM
Fortunato Co
Lim Eng Beng
Alvin Teng
Wilmer Ong
Richard Yee
Tyrone Tang
Joseph Yeo
Charles Tan
Ferdie Go
Reynold So
Junie Lopez
Kenneth Coyukang
:cool:
you forgot the following:
Samboy Lim
Bethune Tanquincen
James Yap
Jun Tan
Gilbert Lao

rensquared
06-29-2007, 05:25 AM
Fortunato Co
Lim Eng Beng
Alvin Teng
Wilmer Ong
Richard Yee
Tyrone Tang
Joseph Yeo
Charles Tan
Ferdie Go
Reynold So
Junie Lopez
Kenneth Coyukang
:cool:

Is Benny Cheng included??

rensquared
06-29-2007, 05:30 AM
Fortunato Co
Lim Eng Beng
Alvin Teng
Wilmer Ong
Richard Yee
Tyrone Tang
Joseph Yeo
Charles Tan
Ferdie Go
Reynold So
Junie Lopez
Kenneth Coyukang
:cool:

wat about poch junio?

Cool_Enz
06-29-2007, 04:52 PM
Yup, just keep it coming guys...Of course many tsinoy basketball players saw action in the Tiong Lian tournaments, while our Filipino-Indian (or Bombay in local lingo) in the FIBL or Filipino-Indian Basketball League. :)

pachador
06-29-2007, 06:48 PM
whats the name of that tall center before in the NCAA they call Frankenstein? :eek:

bolabasket
06-30-2007, 12:58 AM
Yup, just keep it coming guys...Of course many tsinoy basketball players saw action in the Tiong Lian tournaments, while our Filipino-Indian (or Bombay in local lingo) in the FIBL or Filipino-Indian Basketball League. :)
China has 1 billion people and experts would say that India (currently with population of 900 million) will soon overtake China in 2020.... India might be overcrowded and migration to RP is inevitable due to our Fil-Indian brothers.... maybe we can find some 7-footers of fil-indian ancestry.

Cool_Enz
06-30-2007, 08:25 AM
Way back in the late 90's and early 2000's....St Francis of Assisi boast one of the tallest lineup in Philippine College except for the Old Adamson team (MArlou , EJ and Giovani Pineda).........It consist of 6'9 Yancy De Ocampo, 6'5 Ranidel De Ocampo, 6'7 Ervin Sotto and 6'10 Frederick Canlas 6'7 Lawrence Bonus 6'7 Jefrrey Milla.....but aside for these guys one didnt reach the PBA he was around 6'5-6'7 Kiram who use to play at Small Forward...Native of Zamboanga i think)

Yup, he's Nizar Kiram of Zamboanga who also had stints in the PBL.

Anyway, here are two more Muslim players...

Al-Fidzry Dais - A native of Tawi-Tawi who played for PCU during the time of Bernzon Franco and Lot Soriano. Has a brother also named Al who played with him in the Dolphins varsity.

Ralfy Ibrahim - Another player from Zamboanga. Was part of that powerhouse Perpetual Help line-up that included Jojo Manalo, Gilbert Malabanan, Chester Tolomia and Arnel Manalac in 1999-00. :cool:

Cool_Enz
06-30-2007, 08:29 AM
whats the name of that tall center before in the NCAA they call Frankenstein? :eek:

I believe you are referring to 6 ft. 7 Mark Andaya of Letran. He's now playing for the Air21 Express in the PBA. :D :)

DaveMap2007
07-04-2007, 09:36 AM
Yup, he's Nizar Kiram of Zamboanga who also had stints in the PBL.

Anyway, here are two more Muslim players...

Al-Fidzry Dais - A native of Tawi-Tawi who played for PCU during the time of Bernzon Franco and Lot Soriano. Has a brother also named Al who played with him in the Dolphins varsity.

Ralfy Ibrahim - Another player from Zamboanga. Was part of that powerhouse Perpetual Help line-up that included Jojo Manalo, Gilbert Malabanan, Chester Tolomia and Arnel Manalac in 1999-00. :cool:


I think is still an Ibrahim Aming of perpetual....back with Jojo Manalo, JOmer Rubi, Jun Carmona and the Late 6'8 FranCis BAcon:confused:

demonyito
07-05-2007, 10:24 PM
China has 1 billion people and experts would say that India (currently with population of 900 million) will soon overtake China in 2020.... India might be overcrowded and migration to RP is inevitable due to our Fil-Indian brothers.... maybe we can find some 7-footers of fil-indian ancestry.

may i add that Pakistanis are of Indian ancestry..biologically Indian but religion causes them to broke apart hundreds of years ago

saints13
07-06-2007, 02:01 PM
may i add that Pakistanis are of Indian ancestry..biologically Indian but religion causes them to broke apart hundreds of years ago

I think they belong to the DESI group of people..or maybe I forgot the term..

pachador
07-06-2007, 08:13 PM
bakit naman yun ang nick niya. does he really look like frankenstein? :confused:



I believe you are referring to 6 ft. 7 Mark Andaya of Letran. He's now playing for the Air21 Express in the PBA. :D :)

saints13
07-07-2007, 03:10 AM
bakit naman yun ang nick niya. does he really look like frankenstein? :confused:

diba yung gagong court announcer ng AND1 na naglalakad sa pagitan ng mga players ang tumawag ng Frankie the Frankenstein kay Andaya all throughout the 1st half, but somebody may have got a word on him and he stopped calling names in the 2nd half, damn streetball stuff too much trash to say.

translation:
Andaya was tagged during the AND1 tour in Manila.

Cool_Enz
07-16-2007, 06:25 PM
Homegrown players of French ancestry
Jean Marc Pingris (French father) - Purefoods player
Jacques Gottenbos (French father) - Played for San Beda College, and Montana and Blu Detergent in the PBL. Drafted by Talk N Text (6th Rd. 39th Overall) in 2002 but never got to play in the PBA.

Jean Henry Lhuillier of Cebuana Lhuillier and Michel Lhuillier of M. Lhuillier Kwarta Padala are also of French ancestry. :cool:

Servinio
07-17-2007, 03:27 AM
Homegrown players of French ancestry
Jacques Gottenbos (French father) - Played for San Beda College, and Montana and Blu Detergent in the PBL. Drafted by Talk N Text (6th Rd. 39th Overall) in 2002 but never got to play in the PBA.
Gottenbos' ancestry is Dutch.

Cool_Enz
07-18-2007, 05:58 PM
^ okay thanks for the correction Mr. Anthony.. If I remember it right, Gottenbos got involved in some drugs issue not to long ago, I'm just not sure.. :cool:

b3lowzro
07-18-2007, 06:08 PM
hey do we have fil-russians playing here or in the other parts of the world? Russians are very tall so they'd be useful for the NT right?
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Servinio
07-18-2007, 07:03 PM
hey do we have fil-russians playing here or in the other parts of the world? Russians are very tall so they'd be useful for the NT right?
THE closest we can get to that is Filipino-Yugoslavian player Ryan Milos Romeo Mihailovic Gamboa, a 6'4" center/forward who played professional ball for the MBA's RCPI Negros Slashers and Pasig-Rizal Pirates from 1999 to 2002. Gamboa played college ball at the Ateneo de Manila and later at the University of Saint La Salle in Bacolod City. His father is a Filipino while his mother is Yugoslavian.

Cool_Enz
07-20-2007, 05:16 PM
^ Interesting, I didn't know that...:cool:

flipballa7
07-20-2007, 06:22 PM
How bout Godfrey Cosio? I thought he was fil-russian.

pachador
07-22-2007, 05:51 AM
when Russia fell to the bolshevik commies or Reds, the so-called 'white russians' fled to various parts of the world. a group of them fled to the philippines.

similarly, german jews also fled hitler in the 1930s , and a group of them ended up in manila and cebu .achtung !

b3lowzro
07-23-2007, 05:24 PM
when Russia fell to the bolshevik commies or Reds, the so-called 'white russians' fled to various parts of the world. a group of them fled to the philippines.

similarly, german jews also fled hitler in the 1930s , and a group of them ended up in manila and cebu .achtung !


Rensy Bajar i think has Jew lineage... Bejar and Bajar are Jews who immigrated here in the PH during the Spanish period. Their surnames sounds like spanish bcoz its a Hispanized sounding surnames which has Jew origins. Some other examples are from the Chinese and Indians like Tuazon, Cojuangco and Bagatsing
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rhk111
08-04-2007, 01:00 AM
There are persistent reports of San Beda College having "discovered" a 6'11" Fil-Am in the US, & have gotten him to play for the team in the next NCAA Season.

That's all I know at the moment, & it seems SBC is keeping him & other "import" prospects tightly under wraps. I guess we'll know for sure, once they unveil them soon.

Or until someone can come up w/ a reliable report on that guy .....

chokoi
08-04-2007, 03:53 PM
whats the name of that tall center before in the NCAA they call Frankenstein? :eek:
he is mark andaya a 6'7 monster on the court not because of the way he plays..but he looks like really franskenstein..:D i think the name frankenstein was given to him by the announcer of the and1 baller who played exhibition game with the pbl..i watch that game and that guy looks reaslly frankenstein way back then!suggestion he needs the help of dr. calayan or dra. belo..hehe :D

saints13
08-04-2007, 08:25 PM
he is mark andaya a 6'7 monster on the court not because of the way he plays..but he looks like really franskenstein..:D i think the name frankenstein was given to him by the announcer of the and1 baller who played exhibition game with the pbl..i watch that game and that guy looks reaslly frankenstein way back then!suggestion he needs the help of dr. calayan or dra. belo..hehe :D

gago yun court announcer ng AND1..haha..ang dungis nya, ang lakas ng loob nya mangtawag ng frankenstein..hehe. that frankie term was used every time Andaya was mentioned, when he shoots, he defends, he passes, he moves etc. but that was only in the 1st half, after that, somebody might have talked to the AND1 announcer to be more civilized, they are in an enclosed venue and don't consider it as a street..LOL..

translation:
that AND1 announcer doesnt care about people's feelings as long as his big mouth doesnt close..

btw, Andaya was asked in the PBA (a feature during half-time) he said, if given a chance to change his features and his nasal voice or whatever you may call it, he simply said "bigay ni Lord yun e, bakit nya papalitan".

translation:
if it was God-given, why replace it? :)

ankle breaker
09-10-2007, 03:52 PM
Homegrown players of French ancestry
Jean Marc Pingris (French father) - Purefoods player
Jacques Gottenbos (French father) - Played for San Beda College, and Montana and Blu Detergent in the PBL. Drafted by Talk N Text (6th Rd. 39th Overall) in 2002 but never got to play in the PBA.

Jean Henry Lhuillier of Cebuana Lhuillier and Michel Lhuillier of M. Lhuillier Kwarta Padala are also of French ancestry. :cool:
gottenbos has dutch ancestry but his father is not a dutch but a filipino who happens to be an RTC judge in their hometown.

kerouac82
09-11-2007, 12:57 AM
I think FEU's Jens Knuttel also has European roots. His last name sounds Dutch, as well as that of NU's Jonathan Jahnke.

ankle breaker
09-11-2007, 02:58 PM
I think FEU's Jens Knuttel also has European roots. His last name sounds Dutch, as well as that of NU's Jonathan Jahnke.
only knuttel looks european but jahnke is far from being a european basing on his physical appearance.:p

thadzonline
09-15-2007, 05:53 AM
yes, i grew up in cagayan de oro but i only studied there till 1st year high school but kept going back every summer lang usually. since then i have been living in los angeles..
other players from misamis oriental/cagayan de oro, northern and eastern mindanao area include donbel belano of ginebra, ex-PBA marlowe "jumping jack" Jacutin, 6'9" Balingit(Lanao), 6'5" Omolon, ex-PBA 6'5" Realubit(Gingoog city yata), 6'4" Zandro Limpot, 6'5" Guidaben(Camiguin island) . Also i think the marata brothers: Ric-Ric and Bong Marata( his nephew is Cyrus "Dunk you" Baguio is from iligan) , and many more..

I think Zaldy Realubit is from Bohol

bolabasket
09-17-2007, 01:45 AM
I think Zaldy Realubit is from Bohol
Realubit is from Nasipit, Agusan del Norte...:)

thadzonline
09-17-2007, 01:50 AM
Realubit is from Nasipit, Agusan del Norte...:)

really? maybe that tv commentator I heard that from was misinformed :D

hawke12
09-17-2007, 12:48 PM
How about Big-mouth Benjie Paras.. I heard he also has foreign blood in him...

ankle breaker
09-17-2007, 02:32 PM
How about Big-mouth Benjie Paras.. I heard he also has foreign blood in him...
half human, half tikbalang

b3lowzro
09-17-2007, 07:17 PM
I think FEU's Jens Knuttel also has European roots. His last name sounds Dutch, as well as that of NU's Jonathan Jahnke.

does Scott (a PG of Santo Tomas) have a foreign lineage? Looks like Dylan Ababou, Khasim Mirza and Chester Taylor has obvious physical appearances of a Fil-For players in UST's line up

pachador
09-18-2007, 12:25 AM
the filipino language is mestizo too with more than 5,000 spanish words and as the years go by we are getting more and more mixed or mestizo. siguro 20 to 50 years from now we will be even more mestizo or mixed

ankle breaker
09-18-2007, 09:09 PM
kirk long can be considered homegrown since he's based here since he was a kid.

DaveMap2007
09-19-2007, 09:59 AM
LPC has a nigerian player

thadzonline
09-19-2007, 02:46 PM
who is that 6-11 fil-am rumored to play for San Beda next season?

killercrossover
09-19-2007, 02:52 PM
who is that 6-11 fil-am rumored to play for San Beda next season?

that's an interesting news? maybe GS....:)

ankle breaker
09-19-2007, 03:10 PM
another GS in the making perhaps.

rhk111
09-20-2007, 12:43 AM
I think that 6'11" Fil-Am was supposed to be Greg Slaughter.

It could be some other guy, but it's kinda hard to hide a 6'11" Fil-Am these days. Besides, SBC had already unveiled their next import, the 6'7" Kevin Emeka, so if there was some other 6'11" Fil-Am out there, they likely would've revealed him already.

KobeWanKenobi
09-20-2007, 03:09 AM
RHK's correct that the player is Greg Slaughter. There are pros and cons though if SBC gets him.

The con is that he won't play for a year due to eligibility issues.

The pro is that he'll play under one of the best schools at developing talent.

thadzonline
09-20-2007, 03:50 AM
oh well then maybe UV beat SBC to the draw on Greg Slaughter

Cool_Enz
09-20-2007, 12:43 PM
I think Danny Pribhdas who played in the PBA was also of Indian descent.



Don't forget Mukesh Advani...(Indian descent) Ginebra all the way, baby.... and Michael Singh of Ateneo (during Eric Reyes time) ..

Khasim Mirza - Gangly rookie player from UST.
Khomar Khansroff - Former Univ. of Makati player. Was the comic relief of the first-ever PBA Rookie Camp in 2003. :) :cool:

rhk111
09-20-2007, 01:10 PM
RHK's correct that the player is Greg Slaughter. There are pros and cons though if SBC gets him.

The con is that he won't play for a year due to eligibility issues.

The pro is that he'll play under one of the best schools at developing talent.

I'm a Bedan, but I have mixed feelings about GS playing for SBC.

SBC's frontline is LOADED w/ talent, what w/ Ekwe & Emeka playing together next year. Plus you have Dave Marcelo already there. Then Pascual is coming in next season to Team A.

Bottomline, is that GS might have a hard time getting ample playing time. I would prefer he goes out to a school who NEEDS his presence, & where he can get ample playing time.

ankle breaker
09-20-2007, 01:32 PM
Greg Slaughter will stay as a UV Green Lancer all throughout his college career.

dreamwalker
09-21-2007, 12:59 AM
Greg Slaughter will stay as a UV Green Lancer all throughout his college career.

I have nothing against the University of Visayas (UV) Lancers, but Greg Slaughter should do an Aguilar. If he wants basketball a career go to the US, learn and play with the best but if he wants a professional career other than basketball then stay. I am pretty sure the University of the Visayas can offer the best education he could wish for.

“Amor, Servitium, Humanitas” (Love and Service to Humanity). - UV seal:)

DaveMap2007
09-21-2007, 10:41 AM
I have nothing against the University of Visayas (UV) Lancers, but Greg Slaughter should do an Aguilar. If he wants basketball a career go to the US, learn and play with the best but if he wants a professional career other than basketball then stay. I am pretty sure the University of the Visayas can offer the best education he could wish for.

“Amor, Servitium, Humanitas” (Love and Service to Humanity). - UV seal:)

bRO, he tried once in VSU in Virginia.....but his talent didn't pass the quality test....and some coach changes...

Lebron23
09-21-2007, 11:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovar5rJFm7Y&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2xBsRHh9rs&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuzA4ddJoXU&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y49dgXScOs&mode=related&search=


KG Canaleta's Biogical father is actually an African American. That is one of the reason KG has one of the best vertical leap in the PBA today. He is also a 3 time PBA Slamdunk Champion.

http://www.journal.com.ph/photos/1177671564_nino.gif

http://www.air21express.com/images/canaleta.jpg

ankle breaker
09-21-2007, 01:42 PM
arnold booker and jeffrey sanders' father are truely african-americans too because they look like one.

thadzonline
09-25-2007, 03:48 AM
and topex robinson's dad too

ankle breaker
09-25-2007, 03:53 PM
what about marvin hayes and mark wilson of JRU, william johnston of saint benilde, are they son of americans too?

RayV
09-25-2007, 06:24 PM
http://www.journal.com.ph/photos/1177671564_nino.gif


Wow, look at his afro already touching the rim... :D
Nice pic Lebron...

If Marc Pingris' vertical is about 12 ft (good reason why he blocks shots so well)... he should also be able to do that... BTW, he's half-french...

ankle breaker
09-26-2007, 03:55 PM
send canaleta and pingris to the US for training.

Lebron23
09-27-2007, 03:21 AM
Wow, look at his afro already touching the rim... :D
Nice pic Lebron...

If Marc Pingris' vertical is about 12 ft (good reason why he blocks shots so well)... he should also be able to do that... BTW, he's half-french...

KG Canaleta is the greatest PBA Dunker of all time

DaveMap2007
09-27-2007, 04:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovar5rJFm7Y&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2xBsRHh9rs&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuzA4ddJoXU&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y49dgXScOs&mode=related&search=


KG Canaleta's Biogical father is actually an African American. That is one of the reason KG has one of the best vertical leap in the PBA today. He is also a 3 time PBA Slamdunk Champion.

http://www.journal.com.ph/photos/1177671564_nino.gif

http://www.air21express.com/images/canaleta.jpg

KG Canaleta started his college basketball with PCU-Dasmarinas on his freshman year then was pirated by UE and the rest is history

RayV
09-27-2007, 05:22 AM
^Heheh... that pic really caught me... the guy's talking on his phone while he's being dunked over by Canaleta... funny and sick at the same time... :D

ankle breaker
09-27-2007, 02:41 PM
KG Canaleta is the greatest PBA Dunker of all time
don't forget that there was bong alvarez and samboy lim before him. and they are the best dunkers of all time because they epitomized what a real pinoy basketball player looks like.

Cool_Enz
12-22-2011, 05:32 AM
Let's revive this thread as there are new homegrown Fil-Ams under this category.

I assume that San Sebastian's Calvin Abueva is an Amerasian. Seems that he has some African-American blood and he also hails from Pampanga where most homegrown Fil-Ams come from :)

jeree18
12-22-2011, 09:44 AM
Let's revive this thread as there are new homegrown Fil-Ams under this category.

I assume that San Sebastian's Calvin Abueva is an Amerasian. Seems that he has some African-American blood and he also hails from Pampanga where most homegrown Fil-Ams come from :)

jason castro,willie miller and gabby esinas to name a few..

FilipinoDad
12-22-2011, 12:13 PM
Greg Slaughter will stay as a UV Green Lancer all throughout his college career.

In addition, the Semerad twins will stay as SBC Red Lions all throughout their college careers.

:)

yogaflame
12-22-2011, 01:17 PM
Technically Ray Parks is home grown since elementary, he stayed here in the Philippines and develop his skills in basketball

nardy
12-23-2011, 03:28 AM
In addition, the Semerad twins will stay as SBC Red Lions all throughout their college careers.

:)

huh ????

Cool_Enz
12-23-2011, 06:41 AM
Abe King also falls under this category. King's father was a Native American Indian (Sioux) who was once stationed in Sangley Point in Cavite. :)

rocketstar47
12-25-2011, 07:35 AM
some mixed blood Filipino-Arab or Filipino-Muslim basketball players in the Philippines :

Rabeh Al Hussaini 6'7" Ateneo university of Manila

Carlo Sharma 6'6" Red Bull PBA team

Mike Hrabak(? not sure) 6'6" Red Bull PBA team

Gerry Samlani 6'5" ex-PBA UTEX team 1980s

Nur JamJam Alfad 6'3" Henkel team in PBL(division 2 commercial league)

Mustapa Khader 6'7" ex-player from Cotabato area 1970s

Yousif Aljamal 6'4" Magnolia PBL team

There is a new player for La salle university whose father is an Arab from Bahrain. his name is Bader Malabes. I don't know his height.



Bader MALABES recently played for Bahrain NT in the 2011 FIBA ASIA Championships

kerouac82
12-29-2011, 03:54 PM
arnold booker and jeffrey sanders' father are truely african-americans too because they look like one.

Arnold Booker is actually from the Pasig area. He went to Rizal High School which had the biggest HS population in the world back then. His batch valedictorian was a college classmate of mine and they would run into each other whenever games were played at the BEG.

The_Big_Cat
12-30-2011, 01:41 AM
Abe King also falls under this category. King's father was a Native American Indian (Sioux) who was once stationed in Sangley Point in Cavite. :)

When I had a chat with Sir Abe, he also mentioned that he was of Irish-American descent.