RP National Team Possible Future Foreigner Acquisitions

[aklanarcher]

Ayon sa rules ng Fiba any team can naturalize one or two foreigners and field them to play for their national team, tama ba? Who do you think should the Philippines try to recruit and naturalize to play for the national team? Developing homegrown talent is nice but getting some naturalized foreigners like Lebanon and Jordan would make us achieve our Olympic basketball dream sooner. Just my two cents.

[RetiredJordanStopper]

this has been discussed many times over...u'r 2 years delayed dude.

[saints13]

how about Dennis Rodman.. :)
yun tatay nya nand2 sa pinas, may ibang asawa nga lang at bagong pamilya. :)
anyway, madami sa UAAP at NCAA, pili na lang tayo ng pinakaworthy :)

[SkyWalker]

plus the title of the thread is very deceiving.. i thought we really had a new player.

[saints13]

Ayon sa rules ng Fiba any team can naturalize one or two foreigners and field them to play for their national team, tama ba? Who do you think should the Philippines try to recruit and naturalize to play for the national team? Developing homegrown talent is nice but getting some naturalized foreigners like Lebanon and Jordan would make us achieve our Olympic basketball dream sooner. Just my two cents.

its the guys 1st post, what do you expect :) maybe he hasn't read the other forums..hindi ba talaga mabenta tong pinost nya? :(

[daxxss]

mas magandang may pinoy or pinoy blood. pano mapapatunayan magagaling mga pinoy kung lang dugong pinoy. antay nalang tayo madami pa dadating dyan.

[sergio23]

I think we should try to naturalize a center...mga atleast 6'10 Ben Wallace look alike and really play like him..maybe it can help our team in the rebounding area...

[aklanarcher]

this has been discussed many times over...u'r 2 years delayed dude.
OK I am sorry I didn't know. I am new here so please give me the benefit of the doubt.

[aklanarcher]

plus the title of the thread is very deceiving.. i thought we really had a new player.
Yes I am new here. Sorry for the title of the thread. I am glad some people posted because I wasn't expecting much. The thread I think has been a worn-out topic so people would be reluctant to post.

[demonyito]

no, this thread is ok. we need to talk about acquiring or naturalizing foreign players.
leave all that old habit of sticking to our local talent alone because of pride and patriotism.

everybody does mind you. we do it ...we dont do it..they dont care, they will do it and will keep on doin it.

but i tell you, we will need a replacement soon for the aging Taulava and Pennisi

[rensquared]

DOn't like the idea of naturalizing a player. If we do naturalize a player, lots of questions will arise.... Cases that will be somewhat similar to fil-shams and the home grown thing... If we intend to naturalize, we better start with alex compton. Heck, this guy speaks fluent tagalog and loves our culture. I think he is more of a pinoy than other fil ams because of the way he loves our country andculture itself....

[bolabasket]

Someone like Amare Stoudamire!

[Sakamoto]

A good idea but on the sad note it will not accept by the Filipino basketball genius and also by the players union. Sasabihin nila na inagawan na nga kami ng trabaho ng mga Fil - foreign players tapos magpapasok pa kayo ng mga Naturalized players. Actually, this already happened in the 1985 when 3 Naturalized players in the person of Chip Engelland(Asst.coach of SA spurs),Dennis Stille,Jeff Moore. They represented Philippines in the international competition like 1985 JonesCup and 1985 Fiba - Asia Championships. They won these competition and the sad thing here is they were not given due recognition. They were not even greeted at the airport during their arrival. According to some basketball genuis in the country, the acceptance is not as pure or whole compared to when Efren Reyes or Manny Pacquiao won a title because of a foreign reinforcement. The best solution for this problem is to look for a Fil-foreign players with a height of 7ft and this is more acceptable to the people.

[donlyn]

i think we dont need to naturalize a foreigner just to be competative. we need to do is to improve our own locals and find fil - foreigners to back our national team.

[ctongco]

Off-topic: Shouldn't this be with the Philippine National Team Discussion (http://forums.interbasket.net/showthread.php?t=3406)?

Back On-topic: Many Filipinos will oppose this idea if not done with the right preparations. Perhaps it would be accepted by Filipinos if it was gradually introduced and not make it just an overnight decision. One thing that will make it easier for Filipinos to accept naturalizing a foreigner would be if the foreigner is "filipino by heart", just like Alex Compton.

[aklanarcher]

Off-topic: Shouldn't this be with the Philippine National Team Discussion (http://forums.interbasket.net/showthread.php?t=3406)?

Back On-topic: Many Filipinos will oppose this idea if not done with the right preparations. Perhaps it would be accepted by Filipinos if it was gradually introduced and not make it just an overnight decision. One thing that will make it easier for Filipinos to accept naturalizing a foreigner would be if the foreigner is "filipino by heart", just like Alex Compton.
To the moderators: Please move my thread. Thanks.

[papara]

Given that we qualify to the olympics and play againts top teams of the world then we really not to have naturalize players. But if we are just focusing on FIBA-ASIA then the current line up would be competitive. I guess we need change our thinking regarding naturalizing players. Other countries doing it already and in the future alot of them will get high profile players just to get there in the olympics. Time is not in our side as other countries are fast improving with regards to their basketball skills.

[Holy Hand Grenade]

What we should do is do away with import height limits in the PBA permanently. That way we can lure in a good player (preferably in the 4 or 5 slot) who will also have a steady paycheck in the PBA, since he knows that he'll always be eligible to play in the import-laden conferences. That will help convince him to stay in the Philippines.

[thayil]

What we should do is do away with import height limits in the PBA permanently. That way we can lure in a good player (preferably in the 4 or 5 slot) who will also have a steady paycheck in the PBA, since he knows that he'll always be eligible to play in the import-laden conferences. That will help convince him to stay in the Philippines.

Yah I totally agree with you!

how bout earl Baron?

[Holy Hand Grenade]

Not a bad idea. He was effective when he played for Red Bull. I think maybe 2 or 3 years ago, wasn't it?

He's still young (26 IIRC), 7'0" and 245lbs, and a legit NBA player.

[saints13]

hmm..si Yao Ming..or si Yi Jian Lian or si El-Khatib na lang kaya? :D para sulit, hihina yun kalaban tapos lalakas tayo, haha, or why not Pau Gasol, hehe. just kidding..I'm just talking bout my idols. :D anyway, if ever we'll acquire a foreign player in our NT, let's just be sure he's damn worth it, dahil according to FIBA rules, only one naturalized player is allowed per team.

[demonyito]

What we should do is do away with import height limits in the PBA permanently. That way we can lure in a good player (preferably in the 4 or 5 slot) who will also have a steady paycheck in the PBA, since he knows that he'll always be eligible to play in the import-laden conferences. That will help convince him to stay in the Philippines.

its not a huge problem to convince him(naturalized player or import) to stay. Philippines can offer him unique opportunities. first, he will be a celebrity-hero and will get along with the top class people. if he wants to be in the showbiz then Willy will be very happy to accommodate him for the boomtararat show.
or if he prefers simple life..he can move further to the south..ideally Palawan isles for world class living in nature

[saints13]

its not a huge problem to convince him(naturalized player or import) to stay. Philippines can offer him unique opportunities. first, he will be a celebrity-hero and will get along with the top class people. if he wants to be in the showbiz then Willy will be very happy to accommodate him for the boomtararat show.
or if he prefers simple life..he can move further to the south..ideally Palawan isles for world class living in nature

he will automatically have a rockstar status in this basketball-crazy nation with crazy-basketball fans..:D plus, he will be exposed to criticisms too. :D he gotta have that anti-nonsense-critic vaccine.. :D

[aklanarcher]

How about Mikki Moore? He would look good in an RP team uniform.

[nowitzki_21]

he will automatically have a rockstar status in this basketball-crazy nation with crazy-basketball fans..:D plus, he will be exposed to criticisms too. :D he gotta have that anti-nonsense-critic vaccine.. :D

or better give him the chance to tastes our country's well known hospitality courtesy of our pinay beauties that alone will convince him to stay here....:D

[aklanarcher]

or better give him the chance to tastes our country's well known hospitality courtesy of our pinay beauties that alone will convince him to stay here....:D
I agree. We have the best women and the best nightlife in Asia or Southeast Asia in my own opinion. Bring on the imports. :P

[demonyito]

^^^sounds pimping to me:D but true, we are very hospitable ;)

[kerouac82]

^^^sounds pimping to me:D but true, we are very hospitable ;)

GABRIELA will go after you for that. Kidding! :D

Seriously, though, we're just starting to reap the fruits of Filipinas' labor (pun not intended). You've heard of Rey Parks. This kid is going to be something special. There's also Norman Black's kid who's studying in Ateneo GS. There are others just waiting to be discovered.

[ctongco]

I agree. We have the best women and the best nightlife in Asia or Southeast Asia in my own opinion. Bring on the imports. :P


Not would that be unethical but that would be degrading to us Filipinos. If you really want height, start with the diet.

[saints13]

Not would that be unethical but that would be degrading to us Filipinos. If you really want height, start with the diet.

he's just joking :D but it really sounds unethical but somehow true :D

[aklanarcher]

Not would that be unethical but that would be degrading to us Filipinos. If you really want height, start with the diet.
Oh sorry. I am just saying. I agree with the diet thing.

[saints13]

how bout a millionaire basketball-patron donating Cherifer and Iron supplements for 4 to 6 years to the teenager kids in the Philippines :D
I really believe we'll have a lot of kids who will grow up to their potential heights :D

[pinoy pac fan]

he will automatically have a rockstar status in this basketball-crazy nation with crazy-basketball fans..:D plus, he will be exposed to criticisms too. :D he gotta have that anti-nonsense-critic vaccine.. :D

Naw, saints13. Im sure the majority of Filipino basketball fans (except the purist-old timer types) wouldnt mind having a naturalized player suiting up for us. As long as they make it perfectly clear that the guy is a full blooded foreigner who wants to become a naturalized pinoy, and not passing him off as a Fil-foreigner with distant Filipino roots. They just need to make it transparent and honest.

Every country has a 2 naturalized players limit, right? I'd personally like to have for our NT a long and lean defensive sweeper type of big man ala Marcus Camby. And a rebounding, hustle guy ala Anderson Varejao.

[aklanarcher]

[QUOTE=pinoy pac fan]Naw, saints13. Im sure the majority of Filipino basketball fans (except the purist-old timer types) wouldnt mind having a naturalized player suiting up for us. As long as they make it perfectly clear that the guy is a full blooded foreigner who wants to become a naturalized pinoy, and not passing him off as a Fil-foreigner with distant Filipino roots. They just need to make it transparent and honest.

Every country has a 2 naturalized players limit, right? I'd personally like to have for our NT a long and lean defensive sweeper type of big man ala Marcus Camby. And a rebounding, hustle guy ala Anderson Varejao.[/QUOTE

I agree. We need more post players and shotblockers. Our perimeter players are set. How about the Sean Williams kid or Stephan Lasme? Both are terrific shotblockers and both are long and lean.

[sergio23]

instead of limiting the height of our imports..y not accept a 6'11 imports so that pinoy 6'5 center knows how to defend them..or we can naturalize them bcoz obviously the reason y we are not winning against other asian team is bcoz of our Height...don't wait til the Indians defeated us...

[saints13]

instead of limiting the height of our imports..y not accept a 6'11 imports so that pinoy 6'5 center knows how to defend them..or we can naturalize them bcoz obviously the reason y we are not winning against other asian team is bcoz of our Height...don't wait til the Indians defeated us...

If a game will be dominated by a single player e baka wala na manood ng PBA niyan? haha

translation:
PBA might be boring for people to watch. :D

[saints13]

Every country has a 2 naturalized players limit, right? I'd personally like to have for our NT a long and lean defensive sweeper type of big man ala Marcus Camby. And a rebounding, hustle guy ala Anderson Varejao.

I prefer big men too..because we have a lot of surplus of talented guards, how bout a player ala-Pau Gasol and ala-Chris Bosh so that they will fit within the run-and-gun system of our NT. :D

[pinoy pac fan]

I prefer big men too..because we have a lot of surplus of talented guards, how bout a player ala-Pau Gasol and ala-Chris Bosh so that they will fit within the run-and-gun system of our NT. :D

That would be OK too. Inside-the-block sweeper, a weakside help defender.

Speaking of Chris Bosh. I know he's talented, but I never really liked the guy. Too cocky. Same with Kenyon Martin. Bosh always reminds me of welterweight boxer Corey Spinks. And a mongoose. :D

[saints13]

That would be OK too. Inside-the-block sweeper, a weakside help defender.

Speaking of Chris Bosh. I know he's talented, but I never really liked the guy. Too cocky. Same with Kenyon Martin. Bosh always reminds me of welterweight boxer Corey Spinks. And a mongoose. :D

ok, you don't like Bosh, how about Kirilenko or ala-Nowitzki :D
how I wish we could find someone like that who wants to be naturalized as Pinoy.. :D

[pinoy pac fan]

ok, you don't like Bosh, how about Kirilenko or ala-Nowitzki :D
how I wish we could find someone like that who wants to be naturalized as Pinoy.. :D


Puede?! :D

Quick, how much do they pay AK47 and Dirk? Then we multiply it by PhP46.00 and then.. um, si Kevin Willis na lang? Mahal e? :D


Trans: Nowitzki = sizzling t-bone steak
Kevin Willis = burger value meal

[aklanarcher]

I don't think Dirk and AK47 would be allowed to be included in the national team even if they were naturalized. FIBA only allows a player to suit for one national team.

[aklanarcher]

Would the 6'8" Ekwe be a good candidate to be naturalized? :p His shotblocking might come in handy.

[watiwawa]

Would the 6'8" Ekwe be a good candidate to be naturalized? :p His shotblocking might come in handy.

i just hope japeth become a better pler than ekwe in terms of defense.. 'cause i think ekwe is not yet tested... he's just playing in ncaa... and when he plays in pbl.. he's not dominating

[aklanarcher]

What counts is that he is plays excellent defense. I want Ekwe as 11th or 12th man. A rebounder and shotblocker role would suit him and he has the size to be backup center. Just my two cents.

[jovani_pineda]

hmmm..i think there are some talented filipino-foreigners outside the phil. that is suitable to join the NT. maybe in the near future.

[demonyito]

What counts is that he is plays excellent defense. I want Ekwe as 11th or 12th man. A rebounder and shotblocker role would suit him and he has the size to be backup center. Just my two cents.
Ekwe is only good for NCAA. im not sure how he will perform internationally

[saints13]

Ekwe is only good for NCAA. im not sure how he will perform internationally

good observation though..but he's the closest available :D

[aklanarcher]

7 Footers Wanted in the Philippines. :D

[Onizuka01]

Ekwe is only good for NCAA. im not sure how he will perform internationally

and also he's too small for center spot, but if VERY WELL TRAINED to SF/ PF he'll be fine in the NT..

[aklanarcher]

and also he's too small for center spot, but if VERY WELL TRAINED to SF/ PF he'll be fine in the NT..
I agree. The Adonal Foyle of the Philippines. :p

[jaycarlos1]

[QUOTE=pinoy pac fan]Naw, saints13. Im sure the majority of Filipino basketball fans (except the purist-old timer types) wouldnt mind having a naturalized player suiting up for us. As long as they make it perfectly clear that the guy is a full blooded foreigner who wants to become a naturalized pinoy, and not passing him off as a Fil-foreigner with distant Filipino roots. They just need to make it transparent and honest.

Every country has a 2 naturalized players limit, right? I'd personally like to have for our NT a long and lean defensive sweeper type of big man ala Marcus Camby. And a rebounding, hustle guy ala Anderson Varejao.[/QUOTE

I agree. We need more post players and shotblockers. Our perimeter players are set. How about the Sean Williams kid or Stephan Lasme? Both are terrific shotblockers and both are long and lean.



Want a Shot blocker? Just wait bro for the coming of Japeth Aguilar.

"He's got things that are hard to teach - height and length and terrific athleticism,” Horn said. “He's a terrific shot blocker and rebounds well.”

http://www.asia-basket.com/PHI/PHI.asp

[real_hunk]

I am ok with naturalizing a player, as long as he has spent a # of good years here in the Phils. Somebody like Sam Ekwe, or those who have played as PBA imports multiple times already.

[aklanarcher]

I am ok with naturalizing a player, as long as he has spent a # of good years here in the Phils. Somebody like Sam Ekwe, or those who have played as PBA imports multiple times already.

Yup. But some haters would say that naturalizing a player would be unfair to other players wanting to make it to the national team. For me the RP team needs to use some of its options like naturalizing one foreign player since we are allowed to do so.

[Dinamita]

I hope coaches in the Philippines will let their players play the position that they want... From my observations... If you are 6'3 or 6'4 coaches will put you on 5....

and 6'6 guys and higher should start playing outside... It would be a good asset on our NT if we have 6'7 6'8 6'9 guys shooting 3 points or a very good perimeter shooter.... I dont see any succesful BANGIN players in the international scene.... Not unless this guy is 7'2 and higher like HA and YAO....

[snipes12]

bring in michael beasley and kevin love

[onono1]

Hey guys its time to wake up :p Forget those NBA players...Not so seriously speaking of acquiring or naturalizing a foreign big guy..how about this 7 footer american Bernard Jons who played as an import in Al Jaleppo ballclub of syria during the FIBA Champions club in tehran, iran, he's a shotblocking artist and jump high above the rim hahahaha. Eventually, Asi Taulava was blocked 5 times by jons.

[aklanarcher]

Hey guys its time to wake up :p Forget those NBA players...Not so seriously speaking of acquiring or naturalizing a foreign big guy..how about this 7 footer american Bernard Jons who played as an import in Al Jaleppo ballclub of syria during the FIBA Champions club in tehran, iran, he's a shotblocking artist and jump high above the rim hahahaha. Eventually, Asi Taulava was blocked 5 times by jons.
Really? Sounds like a good player to recruit. I hope he is willing to play here.

[demonyito]

and also he's too small for center spot, but if VERY WELL TRAINED to SF/ PF he'll be fine in the NT..
im not againts Ekwe but again, he will be too slow to play SF and weak for a PF if we will pit him againts the big boys of Asia. tama na sya sa NCAA

[meloy]

7 Footers Wanted in the Philippines. :D
NICE AVATAR....
sino yan?

[aklanarcher]

NICE AVATAR....
sino yan?
Garry Kasparov. A former world chess champion. I am both a basketball and chess enthusiast.