Šarūnas Jasikevičius Signings and Rumours thread Vol. I

[Jan van Grabski]

FROSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT......AGHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh.... ........

:D :D :D

is that virtual orgasm ? :rolleyes:


If Saras will eventually be able to escape from NBA i am sure he would be willing to choose a team which has bigger chances to win a trophy in EL. Meaning PAO in this case. Obradovic and Saras together, God , i dont see that happening. and i am not even sure that PAO style suits Saras at all. these rumours about Saras talking with PAO looks to me like some sort of gibberish

[CG]

so this agreement must be kept secret...
hmmmm.....


anyone knows the e-mail of Warriors general manager?
mouahahahaha!!!!


ssssss quiet pleaseeeee
anyone who has the email of GM of warriors please not give it to Kokkinosvasilias.:D


is that virtual orgasm ? :rolleyes:


If Saras will eventually be able to escape from NBA i am sure he would be willing to choose a team which has bigger chances to win a trophy in EL. Meaning PAO in this case. Obradovic and Saras together, God , i dont see that happening. and i am not even sure that PAO style suits Saras at all. these rumours about Saras talking with PAO looks to me like some sort of gibberish


is how it looked like?xm i must change my styl then:)

[KokkinosVasilias]

ssssss quiet pleaseeeee
anyone who has the email of GM of warriors please not give it to Kokkinosvasilias.:D




is how it looked like?xm i must change my styl then:)

actually this whole thing "keep it secret" doesnt make sense becasue accordjing to the reports PAO has offered to pay a part of the buy-out, so the Warriors know about Saras-Pao agreement,

so that lead us again to why Prasini doesnt say anything at all today!!!

[CG]

actually this whole thing "keep it secret" doesnt make sense becasue accordjing to the reports PAO has offered to pay a part of the buy-out, so the Warriors know about Saras-Pao agreement,

so that lead us again to why Prasini doesnt say anything at all today!!!


yea but this has worth only if the buy out of PAO is truth..otherwise ....

[reignman]

altough ... i wonder why pao name isnt mentioned in lietuva? ... most liths says its 50-50 nba or oly :(
i want to see what will happen.
but i wont curse if he comes to pao. for real :) i want to see how aggelopouloi will react.
good luck both teams ;)

[T.W.Is.M.]

BRING THE WAR OF THE OTHER THREADS HERE.I AM WAITING..:D
where are the OLY friends:( only the usual people Kokkinosvasilias and Twism.Shit..i am bored with them.Frost come back:p
FROSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT......AGHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh.... ........

:D :D :D

OK, I'm bringing the war here!Even if u sign Saras, we'll still smash u!!!!:D
We'll beat u by 36 points in your home court!!!Jasikevicius will not b able 2 score against Air Kafkis!!!:p
I want the e-mail of the GM of the Golden State Warriors too!I'd like 2 inform him about dirty games and tricks that r being played in his team's back by the vicious and evil greek clubs!:D

[reignman]

OK, I'm bringing the war here!Even if u sign Saras, we'll still smash u!!!!:D
We'll beat u by 36 points in your home court!!!Jasikevicius will not b able 2 score against Air Kafkis!!!:p
I want the e-mail of the GM of the Golden State Warriors too!I'd like 2 inform him about dirty games and tricks that r being played in his team's back by the vicious and evil greek clubs!:D

stop getting hironical... and try to remind the times they got gkalis and dominique.... ;)

[Marble]

Ok,we're all anxious about this transfer..We just have to wait a few more days. Greek media today said that Saras spoke with Obradovic a few days ago in Madrid and Zots convinced him to join PAO. They also said that by Wednesday he will be released from the Warriors and able to sign with PAO. Saras himself now refuses to speak to greek journalists! Personally I'm not at all convinced yet, that it is a sealed deal. We've heard so much about him this summer..

[Straight forward]

Why the check Saras would go to PAO? Maybe Pao keeping such guys like Siskauskas and Diamantidis for free now decided to grab their pocket? :D

[T.W.Is.M.]

stop getting hironical... and try to remind the times they got gkalis and dominique.... ;)

u probably mean the athlete Dominique Wilkins...
well, I hope they don't get Saras, but if they do I want 2 read an announcement about "the athlete Sarunas Jasikevicius"

[KokkinosVasilias]

Why the check Saras would go to PAO?


i)money

ii)european champions, national champions

iii)good coach, he will be sure the team will play well


why PAO would sign Saras?

i)so that Oly wont sign him

ii)show-off, just to show that they can have any player they wish

iii)to make their fans go crazy

iv)for the fun of making the biggest signing

[Straight forward]

Hmm...I dunno. Maybe because of the money, maybe because after NBA PAO is the best choice to continue your team as they are the European Champion, maybe because he will have the chance to work with the best coach of Europe...

Yeah. You are right...Why the (c)heck Saras would go to PAO :rolleyes:

Oh come on! I didn't said "PAO is a peace of crap" :) I was saying- there's Diamantidis, there's no Siska and Robertas anymore. Oly has Macijauskas ( i think Saras a bit afraid to be a shadow of this dude :)) and Piny. And by the way, Siska was purely paid by Pao and the same goes for Diamantidis. Maybe Pao realised that they have to spend some money to get best players, after Siskauskas loss?

[KokkinosVasilias]

and one more reason thats important when it comes to OLY-PAO and especially Giannakopoulos bros


retaliation for Teodosic signing

[T.W.Is.M.]

and one more reason thats important when it comes to OLY-PAO and especially Giannakopoulos bros


retaliation for Teodosic signing

Teodosic was our retaliation 4 the Perperoglou case.
Therefore, we have 2 retaliate if PAO signs Jasikevicius!:p

[KokkinosVasilias]

Teodosic was our retaliation 4 the Perperoglou case.
Therefore, we have 2 retaliate if PAO signs Jasikevicius!:p


do you have someone in mind?

lets see... a great player that PAO wants really bad... preferably a big man... european... hmmm.... lets say randomly a nationality, lets say a croatian... maybe someone that someone from our team knows him well, lets say someone who was playing for Gershon... cant think of anyone really...:D

[CG]

i)money

ii)european champions, national champions

iii)good coach, he will be sure the team will play well


why PAO would sign Saras?

i)so that Oly wont sign him

ii)show-off, just to show that they can have any player they wish

iii)to make their fans go crazy

iv)for the fun of making the biggest signing



man are you sure you are not PAO fan?:D
even i dont give such kind of answers.:D



do you have someone in mind?

lets see... a great player that PAO wants really bad... preferably a big man... european... hmmm.... lets say randomly a nationality, lets say a croatian... maybe someone that someone from our team knows him well, lets say someone who was playing for Gershon... cant think of anyone really...:D


please dont say it to Israel fans :)


Oh come on! I didn't said "PAO is a peace of crap" :) I was saying- there's Diamantidis, there's no Siska and Robertas anymore. Oly has Macijauskas ( i think Saras a bit afraid to be a shadow of this dude :)) and Piny. And by the way, Siska was purely paid by Pao and the same goes for Diamantidis. Maybe Pao realised that they have to spend some money to get best players, after Siskauskas loss?

DD 1.7million
Spanoulis 1.7 million

last year also we had

Siska 1.2 mil
Javtokas 1.2
Delk 1.5
and some more players..most of the athletes are well payed in PAO.Yes we werent the first in the No1 high payed player in Europe.But PAO tries to be first in everything.Something tells me that the next signing will bring PAO also to the first place and there..

[T.W.Is.M.]

do you have someone in mind?

lets see... a great player that PAO wants really bad... preferably a big man... european... hmmm.... lets say randomly a nationality, lets say a croatian... maybe someone that someone from our team knows him well, lets say someone who was playing for Gershon... cant think of anyone really...:D

I got it!!!Zizic!!!:D :D :D

[KokkinosVasilias]

man are you sure you are not PAO fan?:D
even i dont give such kind of answers.:D


omg!!!
i never thought of that!! thats shocking! :D





please dont say it to Israel fans :)


i didnt say anything about any Israeli player :p

[CG]

i didnt say anything about any Israeli player :p



no you but Twism meant a croatian,tall guy with tremendous moves inside the basket.;) How was his name Vi..no Vu..Vui..i cant remember.
but you must hurry up.Cause we will take him next year:D



I got it!!!Zizic!!!:D :D :D


no Zizic he was bornt along as Saroulis as PAO fan. :D
you meant Vi...no Vu..no Vui.. :D

[KokkinosVasilias]

you meant Vi...no Vu..no Vui.. :D

Vujanic?
he's not croatian, he's Serb :D

[T.W.Is.M.]

no you but Twism meant a croatian,tall guy with tremendous moves inside the basket.;) How was his name Vi..no Vu..Vui..i cant remember.
but you must hurry up.Cause we will take him next year:D

no problem.we can wait 4 him until next year too!:D besides if we don't get Saras this year, we'll get him next year:p




no Zizic he was bornt along as Saroulis as PAO fan. :D
you meant Vi...no Vu..no Vui.. :D

Vukcevic???:D :D

[KokkinosVasilias]

you meant Vi...no Vu..no Vui.. :D

Liadelis?!

[ArkadiosV2]

Oh come on! I didn't said "PAO is a peace of crap" :) I was saying- there's Diamantidis, there's no Siska and Robertas anymore. Oly has Macijauskas ( i think Saras a bit afraid to be a shadow of this dude :)) and Piny. And by the way, Siska was purely paid by Pao and the same goes for Diamantidis. Maybe Pao realised that they have to spend some money to get best players, after Siskauskas loss?

It is poorly and not purely. Siska went from 400k euros of Benetton to 1.2M Euros of Pana in one summer, i wouldn't call it a bad deal. As i wrote months before, he must have a genius agent who convinced CSKA to pay 1M Euros to Pana for buy-off and more than 2M Euros to him.

As for Diamantides he went from like 550K Euros to 1.7M Euros mid season. Not bad for a Greek player.

As for Jasikevicius, i don't think he is worth 7M Euros for two seasons, especially if he doesn't shake off his injuries, but who cares? It's not as if the fans are paying, the president is. Good for him.

[CG]

Vujanic?




Vukcevic???:D :D


Liadelis?!

no man i meant Vurtzumis:D

[EverGreen]

Saras has already made his feelings known for Olympiakos...:D

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/676/florosaw1.jpg


His disgust is obvious!!!!:D

Anyway, the Yannkopoulos bros are not building a team to defend it's local and European crown's but a team which will challenge for for NBA title in the near future!!!:cool:

As an old PAO fans chant once went when we had signed Byron Scott and Dino Radja...

"Pavlo Thee kanonise,
taxidia sto feggari,
i gi den mas horai pia,
ke ehoume saltari!!!"

God Pavlos start organising,
trips to the moon.
the earth is too small for us
and we've gone crazy"

:)

"oe-oe-oe, oe-oe-oe,
O Saras einai PRASINOS re Olimpiake!!!" :)

(trans: Olimpiakos fan, Saras is green, ")

[reignman]

dream on lizzards :P

[T.W.Is.M.]

Last night when he was questioned by greek journalists, he mentioned the name of another team!That is probably another candidate!That was Panionios!!!:D
So Lianos could surprise both Giannakopoulos and Aggelopoulos and complete the biggest signing of this summer!:D
Let's go Panthers!:D

[Marble]

Hello. Eurobasket.lt (http://eurobasket.lt)has a fresh new article about Saras and PAO.Unfortunately I don't speak Lithuanian..Can anyone of our lithuanian friends here translate the text?Thanks!

[LuDux]

Hello. Eurobasket.lt (http://eurobasket.lt)has a fresh new article about Saras and PAO.Unfortunately I don't speak Lithuanian..Can anyone of our lithuanian friends here translate the text?Thanks!

It's about rumours in Greek press

[YYY]

The headline of article says "Saras has agreed with Panathinaikos?". Basically they just quote greek press, nothing special.

[FRANKY 13]

It s incredible though how each newspaper quotes an other one and then a rumour becomes official:D

[reignman]

i really want to see all these little vazelia crying when the time of the signature comes... :):):)

[c_fish]

i really want to see all these little vazelia crying when the time of the signature comes... :):):)

Thats just what we need,another troll :rolleyes: . Well I suppose all us Pao fans will cry our eyes out if we dont sign a 3rd starting 5 PG that the press has rumoured about the last week. If he doesn't sign for Oly,where he has been signing for the last 2 months and you get stuck with your back-up PG as a starter, what will you do? Put on your cement Nike's and go for a swim in Votsalakia?

[ziv]

i wish he'd sign for barna - we need to spread the talent some more around teams (coming from a maccabi fan...). barcelona is a team saras expressed his wish to play for again, he loves the city and stated many times he'd probably end up living there after his retirment.
the team can realy use him and though i was surprised how well lakovic played the pg position (always, and still i think of him as a second guard - he's not a pure point guard...).

[reignman]

saras answered in a reporters question : would you come to play for a greek team?
Saras : i will think of every offer.. i will see if the money are good , if the team is ok i will consider it done.


barca cant afford saras

[Roy M]

I think that never before we could find 15 pages of Theard about player, that has a contract, and every day all the media send him to a new team...

[CG]

dont worry the thread will be closed the end of this week;) :D

[Roy M]

dont worry the thread will be closed the end of this week;) :D


Yeh... we read that too, many times lately.

[reignman]

i made this for panathinaikos fans.. :P they might use it afterall :S

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/AnThRaX1D/av-770copy.jpg

[boki]

If Saras will indeed sign for PAO, don't you think it could lead to unhealthy competition within the team? I mean where will Obradovic find enough time for Saras, Chatzivretas, Spanoulis, Vujanic, Becirovic and Diamantidis?

[KokkinosVasilias]

i made this for panathinaikos fans.. :P they might use it afterall :S

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/AnThRaX1D/av-770copy.jpg


come on Giorgo, dont give up hope :D

[reignman]

come on Giorgo, dont give up hope :D


everybody else gave up.. why should i stand alone again? :(

[T.W.Is.M.]

everybody else gave up.. why should i stand alone again? :(

it depends on what do u mean by giving up, give up the thought that he will come 2 Olympiacos or admit that he will sign 4 PAO.if it's about the first, he looks too stubborn at the moment so I can't b optimistic.if it's about the second, it's a different case.a rumor is always a rumor.he has already been "transferred" 2 many clubs, he keeps rejecting and denying rumors, he remains under contract, but says he will leave his club.it reminds me of "conspiracy theories"!finally one of them may turn out 2 b true.when we find out which one(if any), perhaps we'll b caught by surprise...

[reignman]

it depends on what do u mean by giving up, give up the thought that he will come 2 Olympiacos or admit that he will sign 4 PAO.if it's about the first, he looks too stubborn at the moment so I can't b optimistic.if it's about the second, it's a different case.a rumor is always a rumor.he has already been "transferred" 2 many clubs, he keeps rejecting and denying rumors, he remains under contract, but says he will leave his club.it reminds me of "conspiracy theories"!finally one of them may turn out 2 b true.when we find out which one(if any), perhaps we'll b caught by surprise...


i am crossing my fingers bro :P

[c_fish]

If Saras will indeed sign for PAO, don't you think it could lead to unhealthy competition within the team? I mean where will Obradovic find enough time for Saras, Chatzivretas, Spanoulis, Vujanic, Becirovic and Diamantidis?
Saras 1-2, Chatzivretas 2-3, Spanoulis 1-2, Vujanic 1-2, Becirovic 2-3 and Diamantidis 1-2-3. All of them can fit in multiple positions in Pao's style of play.I predict the ones who can play 3 (especially Diama) spending important time on 3 unless Winston or Perperoglou adjust quickly and play very well.I trust Obradovic will manage to split playing time among them efficiently and save an unhealthy competition but... wouldn't it be better if the Bros had made (if it is true) such a proposition to Vujcic so the roster was more balanced?

[reignman]

i'd love to see a Woods vs Diamantidis matchup ! hah to funny :D

[T.W.Is.M.]

Saras 1-2, Chatzivretas 2-3, Spanoulis 1-2, Vujanic 1-2, Becirovic 2-3 and Diamantidis 1-2-3. All of them can fit in multiple positions in Pao's style of play.I predict the ones who can play 3 (especially Diama) spending important time on 3 unless Winston or Perperoglou adjust quickly and play very well.I trust Obradovic will manage to split playing time among them efficiently and save an unhealthy competition but... wouldn't it be better if the Bros had made (if it is true) such a proposition to Vujcic so the roster was more balanced?

good players fit everywhere.that's what u mean in other words, right?
and yes, with Vujcic your roster would b more equally full but more balanced that with Saras.

[T.W.Is.M.]

i'd love to see a Woods vs Diamantidis matchup ! hah to funny :D

I hope DD doesn't have a dog:p

[KokkinosVasilias]

I hope DD doesn't have a dog:p


Woods will be making bets on Diamantidis-Navaro dogfight!!! :D

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Pana's fan MUST wake up. They already said about Wednesday. We will see tommorow. Soon you will learn the big truth... XoXoXo! :D

[c_fish]

Pana's fan MUST wake up. They already said about Wednesday. We will see tommorow. Soon you will learn the big truth... XoXoXo! :D
Man quit talking big.An Oly fan was insisting about "a bomb which gonna blast tomorrow" and that was about 1 1/2 month ago :rolleyes: unless he was talking about Teodosic :D (I wouldn't call it a bomb though).Saras may stay to GS,sign to Pao,Oly or to someone else who'll just come out of the blue.So unless you want to be "missing" from this forum for a week if things turn out not as in Santa Crocus' will follow my advice

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Man quit talking big.An Oly fan was insisting about "a bomb which gonna blast tomorrow" and that was about 1 1/2 month ago :rolleyes: unless he was talking about Teodosic :D (I wouldn't call it a bomb though).Saras may stay to GS,sign to Pao,Oly or to someone else who'll just come out of the blue.So unless you want to be "missing" from this forum for a week if things turn out not as in Santa Crocus' will follow my advice

Well I never said he will sign with Oly, I've just said that her will NEVER sign with Pao. ;) :D

[EverGreen]

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2241/freesaraspz8.jpg


:D

Here's the link

http://www.nba.com/transactions/current_month_transactions.html

[Javiky]

Lol. Nice man but the transfer isn't sure yet. :D
the last news heard in Spain: "jasikevcius close to big deal with Panathinaikos" 2 seasons and 10 USD$ millions:eek: :eek:

real, or just a rumor?

[rikhardur]

@EverGreen: a becirovism let you down (Jasikevicius not Jasikevicious) :D

[EverGreen]

@EverGreen: a becirovism let you down (Jasikevicius not Jasikevicious) :D

You mean to say that I had you there for a sec? :)

[rikhardur]

You mean to say that I had you there for a sec? :)
You did :p

[ArkadiosV2]

the last news heard in Spain: "jasikevcius close to big deal with Panathinaikos" 2 seasons and 10 USD$ millions:eek: :eek:

real, or just a rumor?

It is real. The rumours here talk about 2 seasons contract worth 7M Euros, thats 10M USD for you but another detail... Pana is offering to pay part of his NBA compensation too!

[Markoishvili]

Whoever gets Saras will be largely disappointed with his play. His body is on a verge of breaking down.

[ArkadiosV2]

Whoever gets Saras will be largely disappointed with his play. His body is on a verge of breaking down.

Depends who gets him and how uses him...

For example he will be a luxury 6th man coming off the bench and play 20something minutes, something like Papaloukas in CSKA. He and Diamantides will rest each other well... if he chooses Pana that is...

[Markoishvili]

I agree with you that he could be more than useful as a contributor with around 20 mpg, but they are certainly not paying all that money for him being "Sideshow Bob". Jasikevicius will be expected to lead the team, to be the main guy. Im not sure if he is capable for that anymore.

[CYBL]

Originally Posted by Markoishvili
Whoever gets Saras will be largely disappointed with his play. His body is on a verge of breaking down.
Why is this supposed to happen?? i mean he is only 31..we have seen too many
players in their thirties being in the height of their career.. or at least at a decent level of competence especially in Europe..!
i am definite that saras addition to pao's roster will eliminate all rivals of whatever crown exist!!

The next 48 hours are crucial, so patience to all Pao fans (we have seen with Spanoulis case that patience is needed in such negotiations)..as for the rest, you'd better start crossing fingers!!

[Picek]

as for the rest, you'd better start crossing fingers!!my fingers are crossed..
hope Pao will sign him..
then we can welcome new Pao fans here..
it will be an exciting season :D

[sashikas]

my fingers are crossed..
hope Pao will sign him..
then we can welcome new Pao fans here..
it will be an exciting season :D
Will you be one of those new PAO fans? :D

[Civilis]

Šaras on his hug and kiss to Theo that we all saw on TV: :)

- The TV spectators have seen you explaining something to Theo Papaloukas and after that you kissed him. Can you tell us more?

At one point in the game he wanted to take away the ball. I thought he is going to provoke us because we began leading by quite some margin in the game. I have stuck him with my elbow and then said "sorry". He is a great player.

[Picek]

Will you be one of those new PAO fans? :DI wouldn't go that far :D

[Srle]

I hope Pao will sign him for Teodosic sake. Teodosic is a present and future for Olympiacos.

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

I hope Pao will sign him for Teodosic sake. Teodosic is a present and future for Olympiacos.

He is, even if Oly sign Saras. If Teo will be with Saras, he will learn more things with him in his side. ;)
Teo is already one of our favorite players along with Macas, Woods, Sofo and Vasilopoulos. :D

[KONSTANTINE]

very close to panathinaikos is jasikevicious.he came to athens yesterday
they say the only thing they wait is the release from warriors

http://www.sportime.gr/images//basket/NBA/jasikevicius.jpg

[KONSTANTINE]

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2241/freesaraspz8.jpg


:D

Here's the link

http://www.nba.com/transactions/current_month_transactions.html


you put up the name ?
i cant find jasikevicious

[Straight forward]

I hope this is true!!! Saras, Siska, Macas and Kaukenas will shine in EUROPE! :D

[Straight forward]

In which team Kaukenas' playing btw ?

Siena Montepaschi

[MikeMaccabiFan]

you put up the name ?
i cant find jasikevicious
It was in different font and had bechirovism inside too...

[jaka13]

I wouldn't go that far :D
Aah...Thank god you denied it...
I was ready for a heart attack!:D :D

[re5pectas]

Hmm, somehow, I would prefer Saras in Oly, I want Saras & Macas, not "Vs" :mad:
Anyway, it's better to have Saras in Europe, but not in f... NBA :cool:

[saras7]

ha ha jaka 13 i saw 10 years your back in basket i get use of another 4.saras is dead man can't play anymore(if he goes to pao)

[T.W.Is.M.]

Here is the latest rumor.Eurobasket MVP Andrei Kirilenko requested a trade from Utah.The Warriors r said 2 offer Al Harrington and Sarunas Jasikevicius.But as some of us have already pointed out, even if this happens, Saras carries with him a $4M contract which the Jazz have 2 pay.
4 the time being Jasikevicius is in Athens, officially in vacation.

[Straight forward]

Here is the latest rumor.Eurobasket MVP Andrei Kirilenko requested a trade from Utah.The Warriors r said 2 offer Al Harrington and Sarunas Jasikevicius.But as some of us have already pointed out, even if this happens, Saras carries with him a $4M contract which the Jazz have 2 pay.
4 the time being Jasikevicius is in Athens, officially in vacation.

The problem is that Saras still wants to prove something in NBA... god damn, what a mistake. NBA proved everything by them-selfs. Imo, it's obvious that Worriors are keeping Jasikevicius and waiting for good trade. Sarunas Marciulionis talked with Chris Mulin and he said that Worriors need Saras...

[FRANKY 13]

The problem is that Saras still wants to prove something in NBA... god damn, what a mistake. NBA proved everything by them-selfs. Imo, it's obvious that Worriors are keeping Jasikevicius and waiting for good trade. Sarunas Marciulionis talked with Chris Mulin and he said that Worriors need Saras...

Sarunas is history for the worriors. No way he stays there.
The thing is that perhaps he will find a team to be traded.

[Straight forward]

Sarunas is history for the worriors. No way he stays there.
The thing is that perhaps he will find a team to be traded.

That's what i'm talking about. He would be happy to land in Jazz (or other team).

[kestas]

4 the time being Jasikevicius is in Athens, officially in vacation.

hmm, when did he get there?

[insider]

Greeks can oficially start to celebrate :)

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/48122/20070920/warriors_request_waivers_on_jasikevicius/

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_23382.shtml

[guyOFK]

It is official in Israel allso. congrats to PAO, great player as we all know. I hope he is in good shape (no injuries) and I hope Obradovich won't mkae him look bad and will let him shine and play the beatifull basketball that he once played.

CSKA... watch out...

[EverGreen]

That's bullsh*t.

I announced it 2 days ago, what are these people on about? :D

[Straight forward]

well, good news! I hope Obradovic is ready for 3-5 turnovers per game? :D :D :D

[jaka13]

ha ha jaka 13 i saw 10 years your back in basket i get use of another 4.saras is dead man can't play anymore(if he goes to pao)
that's why your nick is saras7? (where has the antibazelos gone?:D )

[jaka13]

It is official in Israel allso. congrats to PAO, great player as we all know. I hope he is in good shape (no injuries) and I hope Obradovich won't mkae him look bad and will let him shine and play the beatifull basketball that he once played.

CSKA... watch out...
Say that again...

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Hehe, let's wait for 48 hours more. It's so funny btw... :D

[FRANKY 13]

whats so funny:D

[T.W.Is.M.]

that's why your nick is saras7? (where has the antibazelos gone?:D )

because Saras will have 7 TOs per game if he signs 4 PAO:p

[jaka13]

Hehe, let's wait for 48 hours more. It's so funny btw... :D
exei gousto...can you imagine that oly signs saras?:D
What will saras7 would say then?:D

[jaka13]

because Saras will have 7 TOs per game if he signs 4 PAO:p
lol:p

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

whats so funny:D

One month before, Saras was RED and Olympiakos the favorite for the Euroleague. Now the world come upside down!!! :D

[Marble]

Hehe, let's wait for 48 hours more. It's so funny btw... :D
Actually, it may be 2 working days we have to wait for. Thursday may not count as an actual day and since Saturdays and Sundays are no working days, Monday will probably be the day..

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Actually, it may be 2 working days we have to wait for. Thursday may not count as an actual day and since Saturdays and Sundays are no working days, Monday will probably be the day..

Greek sites, are talking about Tuesday... ;)

[jaka13]

48 working hours. That means Friday and Monday. Tuesday is the day.

Euroleague don't tell me you are expecting him to sign somewhere else than PAO ?:D
he expects he'll sign with Panionios...:D

[T.W.Is.M.]

One month before, Saras was RED and Olympiakos the favorite for the Euroleague. Now the world come upside down!!! :D

U(and everybody else) haven't understood it, right?
Saras is signing 4 Olympiacos and going on loan 2 PAO!:D :D :D
So all reports(previous and current) r correct!
Besides, who needs Jasikevicius when we have Air Kafkis?:p

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

U(and everybody else) haven't understood it, right?
Saras is signing 4 Olympiacos and going on loan 2 PAO!:D :D :D
So all reports(previous and current) r correct!
Besides, who needs Jasikevicius when we have Air Kafkis?:p

Basically we have Air Woods... :D

[T.W.Is.M.]

Not right. I've heard that Panionios is gonna buy him and loan him to Olympiada Patras. He is going to be Olympiada's backup pg ! :D

Right, I forgot about Panionios.I shouldn't because he mentioned the name himself!I got an idea though.Giannakopoulos and Aggelopoulos should join forces(and money) and sign 50% of his rights each.The player can play alternately 4 one season in every team!:D

P.S.Why would Panionios sign him?They have Air Zoroski!!!:p

[Straight forward]

Jasikevicius, Macijauskas, Siskauskas, Diamantidis, Papaloukas, Spanoulis, Vujcic, Reyes, M. Popovic, Lakovic, Becirovic, Palaninic, Kaukenas, Gurovic and many more! This is gonna be great season of Euroleague!!! :cool:

[T.W.Is.M.]

Jasikevicius, Macijauskas, Siskauskas, Diamantidis, Papaloukas, Spanoulis, Vujcic, Reyes, M. Popovic, Lakovic, Becirovic, Palaninic, Kaukenas, Gurovic and many more! This is gonna be great season of Euroleague!!! :cool:

not so great with Jasikevicius, Diamantidis, Spanoulis, Becirovic, Batiste, Tsartsaris, Zizic and Tomasevic(plus Vujanic, Winston, Perperoglou and Dikoudis) all in one team(and which team...).looks like I've picked the right season 2 join the army...:cool:

[EverGreen]

On January 17, 2007, was signed by Golden State Warriors along with teammates Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington, and Josh Powell for Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, Jr., Ike Diogu, and Keith McLeod.[2]

On September 20, 2007 was released on a free-transfer by the Golden State Warriors and was signed as a free agent by European powerhouse and Triple Crown holders Panathinaikos BC of Athens.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0ar%C5%ABnas_Jasikevi%C4%8Dius

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3964/sarunasjasikeviciusyc6.jpg

Once it all official with PAO. I'll put something up that we can all laugh at :)

p.s The PAO president came out and said that it's over. It's a done deal.

[Straight forward]

not so great with Jasikevicius, Diamantidis, Spanoulis, Becirovic, Batiste, Tsartsaris, Zizic and Tomasevic(plus Vujanic, Winston, Perperoglou and Dikoudis) all in one team(and which team...).looks like I've picked the right season 2 join the army...:cool:

I heard Siska called a nice gang in Moscow, mostly it's 'Old school Benneton' with some addition like Teo, Smodis and Holden :rolleyes: And Garbajosa once said "Macijauskas can win it by himself ", but now he has Woods, Bourousis and strong upcoming PG? Real, Barsa, Maccabi, Zalgiris are stll here either :D

By the way, why are you going to the army? Don't do this, man!

[c_fish]

exei gousto...can you imagine that oly signs saras?:D
What will saras7 would say then?:D
There ya go:D



saras is dead man can't play anymore(if he goes to pao)

Everybody got their cement Nike's ready:p

[ArkadiosV2]

Obradovic' will understand his mistake to loan out Xanthopoulos to Panionios so he will offer them Jasikevicius in order to get him back. Then olympiakos will do the colpo grosso and exchange Air Kafkis for Jasikevicius, this way everyone will be happy and things will turn out as planned at the beginning.

twism... that sucks dude, in any case... good luck.

[Victorious]

This is bad. Lithuanian players are joining the teams of Greek National team players, then they learn their strengths and weaknesses and afterwards they beat them for bronze medal games. :D

[kestas]

Jasikevicius, Diamantidis, Spanoulis, Becirovic, Batiste, Tsartsaris, Zizic and Tomasevic(plus Vujanic, Winston, Perperoglou and Dikoudis) all in one team

this has no point, has it? tell me this has any sort of point besides somebody's (Pana's owners) satisfied personal ambitions. and is Obradovic the right coach for Saras? I imagine he'll be........ benched there :confused:

and btw, my belief in NBA has just reached the all time low. maybe people should start working towards a different name for the sport this league is practicing, coz it's deffinitely something different.

[KokkinosVasilias]

and is Obradovic the right coach for Saras? I imagine he'll be........ benched there :confused:


why Obradovic isnt the right coach for Saras?!

[Straight forward]

why Obradovic isnt the right coach for Saras?!

maybe because last year PAO played like a clock. Jasikevicius is creator, his game is risk and 3 TO's per game is nothing for him.

[kestas]

Come on guys ! If Spanoulis can play with Obradovic then Saras, a much more experienced player can also do that.

what does Spanoulis has to do with this?
Saras is used to having full controll, he wants to be a considerable part of decision making off the court and practically be the main decision maker on the court. imagine this: after a bad deffensive play infurriated Zelko yels out a play the team needs to do on offense, but Saras looks at him and... starts a different one. this is how he played in the Lithuanian NT and probably in Maccabi as well. is Obradovic this kind of a coach?
besides, with so many excellent PGs Pana do not need Saras. how will they ballance different styles of Diamantidis and Jasikevicius, it'd be very interesting to see..

[Straight forward]

what does Spanoulis has to do with this?
Saras is used to having full controll, he wants to be a considerable part of decision making off the court and practically be the main decision maker on the court. imagine this: after a bad deffensive play infurriated Zelko yels out a play the team needs to do on offense, but Saras looks at him and... starts a different one. this is how he played in the Lithuanian NT and probably in Maccabi as well. is Obradovic this kind of a coach?
besides, with so many excellent PGs Pana do not need Saras. how will they ballance different styles of Diamantidis and Jasikevicius, it'd be very interesting to see..

This will be very interesting. Though if they signed (?) contract that means Saras and Obradovic talked about these things, i have no doubt. I don't think Saras played the same way in Macabi with Gerson as he did in NT. But i have no doubt that there will be some fights and some games with Saras on the bench. Obradovic is crazy in the same way as Saras is. I did't realy thought that coach can slang his players in such way as Obradovic do in these days... :eek:

How could this guy be controlled in the court? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kc-0GIPPtg

[frost]

what does Spanoulis has to do with this?
Saras is used to having full controll, he wants to be a considerable part of decision making off the court and practically be the main decision maker on the court. imagine this: after a bad deffensive play infurriated Zelko yels out a play the team needs to do on offense, but Saras looks at him and... starts a different one. this is how he played in the Lithuanian NT and probably in Maccabi as well. is Obradovic this kind of a coach?
besides, with so many excellent PGs Pana do not need Saras. how will they ballance different styles of Diamantidis and Jasikevicius, it'd be very interesting to see..


i agree with u 100000%!!
saras is a fool for signing with pao..olympiakos was a much better solution for him, cause he plays the kind of basketball saras likes..plus if saras came to olympiakos would be the basic pointguard and he would have full control..

[saras7]

they change me the only good part of my username and they left only saras 7. congr to pao but blackney is two times faster than turnover machine.

[frost]

English...


English or provide a translation. rikhardur

[saras7]

English or provide a translation. rikhardur
don't worry i change it

[frost]

saras7 im olympiakos fan and im crazy for saras...now that he signs for pao i cry all the time..:(

[saras7]

saras7 im olympiakos fan and im crazy for saras...now that he signs for pao i cry all the time..:(
don't worry blackney is 2 times better and teodocis will be 3 times better of the turnover machine.

[kestas]

Pao is a level higher with Sarunas .:)


it's no secret any European team would rise one level (and some even more ;)) with Sarunas, but Pao were pretty much on the top level anyways ;) it's unfortunate they don't play in the official NBA Europe Live (shame on ULEB) this time..
in any case, I wish him luck and if indeed he signs for Pao, I will expect nothing less but the Eurolegue title repeat from them. If Oly signed him, I'd expect them to win it all this season, but with Saras, Macas and Siska in three different powerhouses at least there's almost surely gona be another Lithuanian Euroleague winner and most probably the F-4 MVP as well :)
k

[ArkadiosV2]

Boys, boys... relax. It seems that you are really pissed that that Saras didn't sign for oly but preferred Pana, i understand, but please, be more objective...

Do you think that Obradovic and Saras (who as straight forward said met during the Eurobasket in Madrid) don't have a plan? A common tactic and strategy in head? Or do you think that you have a higher basketball IQ than both of them?

I mean, you could... besides you two have a whole of 26 posts in a basketball forum (combined) ! But allow the rest of us to trust Obradovic and Saras.

My opinion is, as i wrote before, that Saras will be the 6th man for Pana, like Papaloukas is for CSKA, a luxury good who will come off the bench and stir thing up.

Everybody are talking about how Pana will have problems with DD and Saras on the court together, but i didn't hear anyone saying that CSKA will have problems with Papaloukas, Holden (who both need a ball of their own) and Zisis together on the court.

Bottom line... at the end of the season both Obradovic and Saras will be richer by some millions euros, i wouldn't worry about Obradovic hurting Saras' feelings with his yeling or Saras messing up Obradovic plans.

PS: By the way, Diamantidis had the most turnovers last season. So?

[frost]

don't worry blackney is 2 times better and teodocis will be 3 times better of the turnover machine.


i dont think so...saras is the best pg in europe..not a turnover machine as you say...teo is good but unexperienced and can be equal to saras nowhere near!!maybe in 2-3 years he will...

blackney is about 5 levels below saras..

[ArkadiosV2]

kestas, there is a rule that doesn't allow teams from the country that hosted the last Final Four competing in NBA Europe Live.

But don't worry, there will be a San Antonio-Pana game in October.
Couldn't ask for anything better really, NBA Champs Vs Euro Champs.

[frost]

Boys, boys... relax. It seems that you are really pissed that that Saras didn't sign for oly but preferred Pana, i understand, but please, be more objective...

Do you think that Obradovic and Saras (who as straight forward said met during the Eurobasket in Madrid) don't have a plan? A common tactic and strategy in head? Or do you think that you have a higher basketball IQ than both of them?

I mean, you could... besides you two have a whole of 26 posts in a basketball forum (combined) ! But allow the rest of us to trust Obradovic and Saras.

My opinion is, as i wrote before, that Saras will be the 6th man for Pana, like Papaloukas is for CSKA, a luxury good who will come off the bench and stir thing up.

Everybody are talking about how Pana will have problems with DD and Saras on the court together, but i didn't hear anyone saying that CSKA will have problems with Papaloukas, Holden (who both need a ball of their own) and Zisis together on the court.

Bottom line... at the end of the season both Obradovic and Saras will be richer by some millions euros, i wouldn't worry about Obradovic hurting Saras' feelings with his yeling or Saras messing up Obradovic plans.

PS: By the way, Diamantidis had the most turnovers last season. So?


u seem you dont know saras at all man...
saras wouldnt cross the atlantic to be the 6th man for pao!!he want to be the protagonist in every team he plays for!

[ArkadiosV2]

u seem you dont know saras at all man...
saras wouldnt cross the atlantic to be the 6th man for pao!!he want to be the protagonist in every team he plays for!

Hmmm... i hadn't realised that you are Saras' little brother and you KNOW everything about him.

Read the post carefully twat... it begins with 'My opinion is...'.
Like Clint said, opinions are like assholes, everyone got one! So allow me to have one please...

[saras7]

if saras come to oly he would be behind kaykis and apostolidis bec this is his level.for the posts that you say before if you think that making a lot of posts means that you know basket then you have right.one more question do you think that i trully believe tha blackney is better than saras just for fun i said it,that is very easy to understand

[ArkadiosV2]

if saras come to oly he would be behind kaykis and apostolidis bec this is his level.for the posts that you say before if you think that making a lot of posts means that you know basket then you have right.one more question do you think that i trully believe tha blackney is better than saras just for fun i said that and is very easy to understand this

Ok, subject closed for me. I didn't say anything about Olympiakos, i commented on your posts about Saras fitting Pana. Happy? Good. Let's move on.

[ArkadiosV2]

Jasikevivious along with Wilkins are the best transfers in PAO's history (DD and Bodiroga were not that "famous" before their signing to Pao)


Byron Scott had three NBA rings when he joined Pana. And he lead Pana to win the title after... errrrr i've lost the count... years. I think the last one was in 1983.

[ArkadiosV2]

By the way, his agent said that he is going to the US tomorrow as he has many good offers from other NBA clubs. But i doubt that NBA clubs will pay part of his compensation, as Pana is willing to do. (additional 2 million euros)

[saras7]

Ok, subject closed for me. I didn't say anything about Olympiakos, i commented on your posts about Saras fitting Pana. Happy? Good. Let's move on.
i don't speak of fiting saras to pao frost do that

[Z.A.L.I.A.]

I don't know whether anyone wrote that or not but it is official: Saras does not belong to GSW! both sides agreed with the terms towards determination of the conctract. So now there is no need to anyone to pay any amount of money to GSW for Saras. Now he is free agent!

source:
http://krepsinis.net/news.php?news_id=73284

[T.W.Is.M.]

I heard Siska called a nice gang in Moscow, mostly it's 'Old school Benneton' with some addition like Teo, Smodis and Holden :rolleyes: And Garbajosa once said "Macijauskas can win it by himself ", but now he has Woods, Bourousis and strong upcoming PG? Real, Barsa, Maccabi, Zalgiris are stll here either :D

By the way, why are you going to the army? Don't do this, man!

1)the army is an obligation here, not a choice
2)CSKA is the only hope left now:D
But if u look at both PAO and CSKA transfers, it looks like PAO has strengthened a bit more(yet they lack in balance).
3)Garbajosa can say anything he wants,until he wins a EC I won't take him seriously!:p Yes Macijauskas can do great things, but his team is great in 4 positions and has a hole in PG(comparing 2 other positions).And all that stuff about the PG we'll bring looks crap 2 me.There r no real candidates that can do sth special(or play better than Penn who we had last year).The only hope is that Sofo starts eating our opponents before the matches:D
4)Real has Papadopoulos as starting C!
Barcelona has Acker, right?Let's c when he will return from his first trip 2 the US...;)
Maccabi is good, yes...wait a sec...Parker has gone 2 the Raptors, Baston too, Jasikevicius is...forget it:cool:
Zalgiris?I'd like 2 c them this season.I hope they have many young talented Lithuanians.Can they play as innovative and efficient bball as in 1999?

[Straight forward]

1)the army is an obligation here, not a choice
2)CSKA is the only hope left now:D
But if u look at both PAO and CSKA transfers, it looks like PAO has strengthened a bit more(yet they lack in balance).
3)Garbajosa can say anything he wants,until he wins a EC I won't take him seriously!:p Yes Macijauskas can do great things, but his team is great in 4 positions and has a hole in PG(comparing 2 other positions).And all that stuff about the PG we'll bring looks crap 2 me.There r no real candidates that can do sth special(or play better than Penn who we had last year).The only hope is that Sofo starts eating our opponents before the matches:D
4)Real has Papadopoulos as starting C!
Barcelona has Acker, right?Let's c when he will return from his first trip 2 the US...;)
Maccabi is good, yes...wait a sec...Parker has gone 2 the Raptors, Baston too, Jasikevicius is...forget it:cool:
Zalgiris?I'd like 2 c them this season.I hope they have many young talented Lithuanians.Can they play as innovative and efficient bball as in 1999?

1) Is there no chances to overpass this? In Lithuania you have to learn in university or other school and no-one will take you to the army, for example. Anyway, good luck.
2) If PAO will sign Saras, they are favorites nr.1. for sure.
3) I was ready to become a huge fan of Oly...maybe you shoud borrow Janavicius from Zalgiris? :D With strong PG OLY can go very far, imho.
4) We have to wait and we'll see.

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

1) Is there no chances to overpass this? In Lithuania you have to learn in university or other school and no-one will take you to the army, for example. Anyway, good luck.
2) If PAO will sign Saras, they are favorites nr.1. for sure.
3) I was ready to become a huge fan of Oly...maybe you shoud borrow Janavicius from Zalgiris? :D With strong PG OLY can go very far, imho.
4) We have to wait and we'll see.

1) No unless you know the right person... ;)

2) Yeah that's obvious, but imho Papaloukas - Zisis - Holden are better than Saras - 3D - Vujanic. So for me, the nr. 1 favorite is CSKA.

3) Olympiakos already has the best young playmaker of Europe ( Teodosic ), and there are many rumors about a playmaker. ( propably Udrih ). It's not in a high level as Pana's, CSKA's and Tau's but still, in a basketball game, there is not only the point guard who plays. ;)

4) Nah, Spanish teams are all weak except Real. Barca and Tau will be a miracle if they reach the final4. Or maybe from ref help, especially for Real...

[Sky7]

Saras told Israeli web site Sport5 that he gonna play in Pana :rolleyes:

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Saras told Israeli web site Sport5 that he gonna play in Pana :rolleyes:

What a surprise... :D

[Straight forward]

I hope this is realy going to the end...krepsinis.net wrote that OLY is saying-Saras' agent is blackmailer and that Oly had the agreement with Jasikevicius already with 7million euro for two years. And then Saras' agent announced about some problems with Worriors buyout, Oly agreed to wait, and later the agent announce that Saras is not interested for OLY and thinking about PAO. Pao offered 4,4 mill euro per season and buyout from worriors...good job by agent...:p Oly didn't offered more, and said that they don't want to have business with blackmailer and that Saras isn't worth such money...:D

So... "money money money...the roots of all evil" :p

more over, there are still chances that Saras will play in NBA...ugh

[Jan van Grabski]

Pao offered 4,4 mill euro per season


schizophrenia, la la lalala :rolleyes:

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

If you want my opinion, only ONE player deserves 4,4 milions per year and he's Diamantidis. No one else, from Europe at least... ;)

Maybe the healthy Sofo... :D

[jaka13]

I don't know whether anyone wrote that or not but it is official: Saras does not belong to GSW! both sides agreed with the terms towards determination of the conctract. So now there is no need to anyone to pay any amount of money to GSW for Saras. Now he is free agent!

source:
http://krepsinis.net/news.php?news_id=73284
how did you learned it that fast?:D

[Straight forward]

I have to admit that Saras has tricky agent. He knows how to play the game.

[rikhardur]

I don't know if this can be demonstrated or if it was already, but I believe playing in Eurobasket might have brought back his appetite for European basketball, since he was very determinated to still have a shot at succeeding in the NBA.
Well, glad he'll be returning and hopefully playing a lot for the sake of basketball.

[EverGreen]

I hope this is realy going to the end...krepsinis.net wrote that OLY is saying-Saras' agent is blackmailer and that Oly had the agreement with Jasikevicius already with 7million euro for two years. And then Saras' agent announced about some problems with Worriors buyout, Oly agreed to wait, and later the agent announce that Saras is not interested for OLY and thinking about PAO. Pao offered 4,4 mill euro per season and buyout from worriors...good job by agent...:p Oly didn't offered more, and said that they don't want to have business with blackmailer and that Saras isn't worth such money...:D

So... "money money money...the roots of all evil" :p

more over, there are still chances that Saras will play in NBA...ugh

All that stuff is rubbish because it's coming out now. If Oly was so offended by the blackmailing, then they should have reported it when they gave up on the player.

I find it hard to beleive he is offered 4,2 mil euros per year. Maybe in $$$ not euros. The $2 mil compo to break his contract with GS doesn't stand anymore and PAO will pay Saras what he was earning in the NBA plus a little extra to keep him sweet.

Anyway, the thing people must understand. Especially non-Greeks is that the PAO president, doesn't really care about money that much. He's massively wealth and owns one of Europe biggest pharmaceutical companies.

Do I care how much Saras will be paid? No! I'm not paying him! I'm just gonna go purchase my 250 euro season ticket and go buy a DD shirt and I'm done :D

Anyway, Saras won't be on any bench. He is coming to lead the team to more glory. He is the big personality of the team since DD is a low-profile and humble guy.

[elaj]

They say Šarunas Jasikevičius accepted Panathinaikos offer. 8.000.000$ for 2 seasons.

http://www.sport5.co.il/Articles/Article.409.25586.html

[damelo]

Sad that I can't read it...

[Z.A.L.I.A.]

how did you learned it that fast?:D

what do U mean? I just saw some posts about buy-out problems related with saras and just wrote that. Coz these post confused me a bit.

[Z.A.L.I.A.]

check posts #347-#349 :)

So I was really too late,sorry, but as far as I can see some guys were also out off space with their posts :)

[Vasileios Spanoulis]

Spanoulis got about $7.3 million US from PAO plus Spurs got about $1 million cash so easy to see PAO giving this money to Saras.

And YES now we shall be the 3rd team EVER to be REPEAT TRIPLE CROWN CHAMPIONS!!!

Pana forever!

Kill Bill + Octopus + Sani + Saras +Vujanic + Batiste = The Green DYNASTY!

Alvertis and Tomasevic may go down greatest winners ever!

This is our rotation:

PG Saras/Vujanic/Tatarounis
SG V-Span/Becirovic/Winston
SF 3D/Hatzivrettas/Perperoglou
PF Tarstsaris/Demos/Alvertis
C Batiste/Zizic/Tomasevic

I can't believe it, what an offseason. We are really going for what maybe 3-Peat Triple Crown? First ever? With best player 3D?

Let me be first to coin our new slogan:

The Hellraisers of Hellas

[ArkadiosV2]

4.4M Euros for two seasons is correct.

7M Europe contract + 2M Euros compensation from Warriors which Pana will cover.

elaj 8M USD is a very humble number, the contract alone is worth 10M.

Evergreen, exactly, who cares who gets how much and who pays? I had a season ticket last season, this season i decided not to get one because at some point it was like torture, going to see Pana playing with Egaleo and players being bored to get off the bench, let alone play. But now with Saras, im considering it. Maybe another transfer? That would definetly work.

Euroleague, Sofo is definetly worth more now that healthy, just calculate all the diet programs, medicals and personal trainers Oly is paying now. :)

[jaka13]

Spanoulis got about $7.3 million US from PAO plus Spurs got about $1 million cash so easy to see PAO giving this money to Saras.

And YES now we shall be 2nd team EVER to be REPEAT TRIPLE CROWN CHAMPIONS!!!
Pana forever!

Kill Bill + Octopus + Sani + Saras +Vujanic + Batiste = The Green DYNASTY!

Alvertis and Tomasevic may go down greatest winners ever!

This is our rotation:

PG Saras/Vujanic/Tatarounis
SG V-Span/Becirovic/Winston
SF 3D/Hatzivrettas/Perperoglou
PF Tarstsaris/Demos/Alvertis
C Batiste/Zizic/Tomasevic

I can't believe it, what an offseason. We are really going for what maybe 3-Peat Triple Crown? First ever? With best player 3D?

Let me be first to coin our new slogan:

The Hellraisers of Hellas

Hasn't Maccabi done that in the 2003-2005 period ,or am i mistaken?

[T.W.Is.M.]

Hasn't Maccabi done that in the 2003-2005 period ,or am i mistaken?

Maccabi won the triple crown 2 years in a row, 2004 and 2005.

[jaka13]

Maccabi won the triple crown 2 years in a row, 2004 and 2005.
that's what i meant.;)

[KokkinosVasilias]

how about KK Split in 88-90?

[Picek]

how about KK Split in 88-90?
that was long time ago so that doesn't count :D

[Vasileios Spanoulis]

My bad.

Triple Crown Winners

Jugoplastika Split (As Pop 84 Split)
1990, 1991

Maccabi Tel-Aviv
2004, 2005

[mitsos13]

I had a season ticket last season, this season i decided not to get one because at some point it was like torture, going to see Pana playing with Egaleo and players being bored to get off the bench, let alone play. But now with Saras, im considering it. Maybe another transfer? That would definetly work.
What a pathetic attitude...

[ArkadiosV2]

An interesting prespective on the reasons why Jasikevicius chose Panathinaikos over Olympiakos

1. Pini Gershon. After the glory days in Maccabi TA along came the crisis in their relationship. They haven't talked for years and Pini didn't even bother to involve himself in the transfer.

2. Arvydas Macijauskas. The two of them were never really friends but it got worse after Macijauskas decision to withdraw from the Lithuanian NT. Saras took it personally and cut every contact with Arvydas.

3. Panathinaikos approached Saras much earlier than Acropolis tournament and told him that they are willing to wait for his decision for as long as it takes.

4. Saras' agent. Panathinaikos presidents promised him some very good deals in the future with the rest of his clients.

And here is a photo of Saras is throwing down an Olympiakos scarf on the ground in disgust.

http://www.superbasket.gr/data/images/news/categories/cat_136/jasikevitsius-aero1.jpg

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

An interesting prespective on the reasons why Jasikevicius chose Panathinaikos over Olympiakos

1. Pini Gershon. After the glory days in Maccabi TA along came the crisis in their relationship. They haven't talked for years and Pini didn't even bother to involve himself in the transfer.

2. Arvydas Macijauskas. The two of them were never really friends but it got worse after Macijauskas decision to withdraw from the Lithuanian NT. Saras took it personally and cut every contact with Arvydas.

3. Panathinaikos approached Saras much earlier than Acropolis tournament and told him that they are willing to wait for his decision for as long as it takes.

4. Saras' agent. Panathinaikos presidents promised him some very good deals in the future with the rest of his clients.

And here is a photo of Saras is throwing down an Olympiakos scarf on the ground in disgust.

http://www.superbasket.gr/data/images/news/categories/cat_136/jasikevitsius-aero1.jpg

Lol, if you took your info from supersport.gr, then you better edit this post. All these are b***shits... :D ;)

[Javiky]

My bad.

Triple Crown Winners

Jugoplastika Split (As Pop 84 Split)
1990, 1991

Maccabi Tel-Aviv
2004, 2005
triple crown= win home league, euroleague and home cup?

in that case, Barcelona 2002/2003

[T.W.Is.M.]

triple crown= win home league, euroleague and home cup?

in that case, Barcelona 2002/2003

they r talking about 2 consecutive triple crowns.
apart from Barcelona in 2003, Olympiacos in 1997, CSKA in 2006(I think) and Panathinaikos in 2007 did it once.

[ArkadiosV2]

Lol, if you took your info from supersport.gr, then you better edit this post. All these are b***shits... :D ;)

Yes Sir, i will edit my post right away! Heil Euroleague!
I have to say, your arguments can brake bones.
I mean who wouldn't win a debate using arguments such as:


'Stop with these b**lshits plz'
'you better edit this post. All these are b***shits'
'Haha, you think you're comedian or something ?'
'You know your opinion is wrong cause you based it in a wrong logic'
'Don't believe anything he says'
Lol!!! These are b...ts.

Or should i post some of your earlier posts like:


The only teams which are really behind Saras "door" is Barcelona and Oly. All the other teams, were just some bullshits from reporters. And as I know Savic said that Barcelona doesn't has the money...


Yeah and he will never sign to Pao. :D

Refering to Saras...


Oly has the best roster in Europe at the moment, but the worst coach in Europe. Let's see what Gershon will manage to do with this roster... :confused:


No the problem with Bell for Bucks aren't the money, but the years of the contract. Bell wants 5 years contract with Bucks, but Bucks give him only 2 years contract. That's why I give 60% for Oly to sign him and 40% for Bucks.


Btw about Saras and Bell in the same team


Well wrong impression. I think that both Bell and Saras will come to Pireaus. Let's wait...

Refering to the transfers of Bell and Saras to Olympiakos. By the way... congratulations for the two great transfers...

Can you actually make a post longer than 3 lines and without using the words 'opinion', 'bullshit', 'you are wrong' and :D ;) smileys in a sentence?

If you can, then congratulations, you pass the IQ limit of 70, so you won't be in the 'Retard' category.

[reignman]

Yes Sir, i will edit my post right away! Heil Euroleague!
I have to say, your arguments can brake bones.
I mean who wouldn't win a debate using arguments such as:



Or should i post some of your earlier posts like:





Refering to Saras...









Refering to the transfers of Bell and Saras to Olympiakos. By the way... congratulations for the two great transfers...

Can you actually make a post longer than 3 lines and without using the words 'opinion', 'bullshit', 'you are wrong' and :D ;) smileys in a sentence?

If you can, then congratulations, you pass the IQ limit of 70, so you won't be in the 'Retard' category.

in my opinion all these are 'bullshit' .... ;) you are wrong :D

[Javiky]

they r talking about 2 consecutive triple crowns.
apart from Barcelona in 2003, Olympiacos in 1997, CSKA in 2006(I think) and Panathinaikos in 2007 did it once.
ok
may be alvertis (I suppose he is the captain) could raise the 3 cups this year

[CG]

not so great with Jasikevicius, Diamantidis, Spanoulis, Becirovic, Batiste, Tsartsaris, Zizic and Tomasevic(plus Vujanic, Winston, Perperoglou and Dikoudis) all in one team(and which team...).looks like I've picked the right season 2 join the army...:cool:



Back to my favorite thread after some days of vacations:D

MAN ARE YOU GOING TO LEAVE THE BEST SEASON OF ALL TIME.NO PLEASEEE:p stay a while.
Anyway good luck and be sure the time is passing so quickly there.Rule?Sleep much :)

So it seems that Saras schedule another trip for vacations to Greece on Thursday.It seems again that in the little vacations he had :D this week he liked so much Athens that he will be back 2 times in a week:)As i heard from friends of mine belonging to organised fans (but not hooligans) they also schedule to welcome his arrival in the airport..




2. Arvydas Macijauskas. The two of them were never really friends but it got worse after Macijauskas decision to withdraw from the Lithuanian NT. Saras took it personally and cut every contact with Arvydas.

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thats why he didnt ask Mace for anything about PAO and Greece.Even when OLY was interesting in him Mace was saying IF he ask me i would say to him how good club OLY is...

[LuDux]

2. Arvydas Macijauskas. The two of them were never really friends but it got worse after Macijauskas decision to withdraw from the Lithuanian NT. Saras took it personally and cut every contact with Arvydas.


Very unlikely. Saras himself didn't play in NT twice without injuries.





So it seems that Saras schedule another trip for vacations to Greece on Thursday.It seems again that in the little vacations he had :D this week he liked so much Athens that he will be back 2 times in a week:)


His agent denied that Saras was in Athens after Acropolis

[EverGreen]

I think that our good friend and forum member "Euroleague" is Kogalidis who writes in basketblog.gr :D

Just read the guys articles, they are pure gems of journalism. I'm suprised he hasn't won a Pulitzer award yet :D

About Spanoulis:

http://basketblog.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2734&Itemid=26

Spanoulis is most likely to stay in the NBA. Pao is more interested in Zisis. Spanoulis has never been further from Panathinaikos

http://basketblog.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2885&Itemid=45

How could anyone be serious about actually paying 5.000.000 euros for a player and buying his rights from an NBA team.

About Jasikevicus:


http://basketblog.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5843&Itemid=26

Saras is Red!!!


About Perperoglou:

http://basketblog.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3929&Itemid=26

Perperoglou is Red!!

About Pao tranfers overall:

http://basketblog.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3746&Itemid=26

Panathinaikos will not sign any Greek players!


Just magic :D

p.s by the way...Kogalidis is the journalist Siriggos describes (not mentions) in his last article about writing the announcement against him with Papadopoulos. A journalist friend told me.


Στην περίφημη ανακοίνωση-επαναστατικό μανιφέστο των παικτών, που συνέταξε και ανάρτησε σε διαδικτυακό τόπο δημοσιογράφος ο οποίος εδώ και πολλά χρόνια πλέει με «σημαία ευκαιρίας» στον χώρο του μπάσκετ, οι παίκτες της Εθνικής υποστήριζαν μεταξύ άλλων ότι ως εκπρόσωπος Τύπου της ομάδας δεν είχα δικαίωμα να τους κρίνω δημοσίως.

http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=102243


Pavlos Giannakopoulos (left): "How funny is it going to be signing Jasikevicius and then looking at the Olympaikos fans facial expressions?"

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8867/paoolympiacos020907b16bdv5.jpg

[Picek]

Pavlos Giannakopoulos (left): "How funny is it going to be signing Jasikevicius and then looking at the Olympaikos fans facial expressions?"

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8867/paoolympiacos020907b16bdv5.jpg
it won't be funny if that signing doesn't bring him triple crown..
paying that kind of money and not winning everything will make him look like the biggest idiot around ;)

[Straight forward]

An interesting prespective on the reasons why Jasikevicius chose Panathinaikos over Olympiakos

1. Pini Gershon. After the glory days in Maccabi TA along came the crisis in their relationship. They haven't talked for years and Pini didn't even bother to involve himself in the transfer.


2. Arvydas Macijauskas. The two of them were never really friends but it got worse after Macijauskas decision to withdraw from the Lithuanian NT. Saras took it personally and cut every contact with Arvydas.

3. Panathinaikos approached Saras much earlier than Acropolis tournament and told him that they are willing to wait for his decision for as long as it takes.

4. Saras' agent. Panathinaikos presidents promised him some very good deals in the future with the rest of his clients.

And here is a photo of Saras is throwing down an Olympiakos scarf on the ground in disgust.

http://www.superbasket.gr/data/images/news/categories/cat_136/jasikevitsius-aero1.jpg

1. Pini talked with Saras once. And i think Saras was close for OLy, for sure. Actually, the main reason why Saras gone to PAO (?), imho, was money and stronger club in paper (PAO).


2. It's hard to say. There are different opinions in Lithuania. But Sars and Macas had a friendly meet in USA when Macas was in Hornets. And they had no conflicts in NT, atleast big ones for sure. So, imho, everything is fine. There's no way Saras could be offended by Macas' abstention for NT team.

[T.W.Is.M.]

4 me it's all about the manager.He was the one who took him away from Olympiacos and brought him 2 PAO.What seems strange though is this:Saras insisted on trying once more in the NBA, so he was looking 4 a chance 2 prove himself.A similar challenge 2 this in europe would b Olympiacos who is trying 2 climb 2 the top again.He would have the chance 2 prove himself again as a leader and as a player who can still make the big difference.Instead he prefers 2 sign 4 the european champion, a team that was able 2 win the EL again even without him.2 me this decision looks like avoiding risk.So how can a player who searches 4 a challenge in USA avoid this type of challenge in europe?

[Yuval Kodenstein]

Is Obradovich intending to release one of his guards after the arrival of Saras? Maybe Vujanic or Becirovic? One of the two for sure will play only in the Euroleague.

[elaj]

Is Obradovich intending to release one of his guards after the arrival of Saras? Maybe Vujanic or Becirovic? One of the two for sure will play only in the Euroleague.
Fenerbahce showed some interest in signing Sani Bečirovič a month ago, but Panathinaikos rejected their offer.

[EverGreen]

it won't be funny if that signing doesn't bring him triple crown..
paying that kind of money and not winning everything will make him look like the biggest idiot around ;)

You wish cro boy.

By the way...we lost to AEK yesterday..you can organise a party at your house now.

[EverGreen]

Is Obradovich intending to release one of his guards after the arrival of Saras? Maybe Vujanic or Becirovic? One of the two for sure will play only in the Euroleague.

It's rumoured that Vujanic will only play in the EL.

[Yuval Kodenstein]

Fenerbahce showed some interest in signing Sani Bečirovič a month ago, but Panathinaikos rejected their offer.

This was before Saras signed. Now things are probably different.

[elaj]

This was before Saras signed. Now things are probably different.
Yeah, that's why I posted. Now Panathinaikos might be interested in accepting the offer for Bečirovič.

[EverGreen]

Yeah, that's why I posted. Now Panathinaikos might be interested in accepting the offer for Bečirovič.

There is no way Becirovic will be sold. Let's not start something that doesnt exist. If we sell Becirocic, who will Obradovic shout at? :D

[Yuval Kodenstein]

There is no way Becirovic will be sold. Let's not start something that doesnt exist. If we sell Becirocic, who will Obradovic shout at? :D

Believe me that he will shout enough on Saras. He will enjoy his skills very much but at the same time shout at him a lot. Saras is not the player that will do exactly as the coach says, but still he is the best PG in Europe.
In a game against Zalgiris in Tel-Aviv, Saras didn't do exactly what Gershon told him in the last attack of the first half, and he sat on the bench all the second half even though his father came from Lithuania especially to see this game. When Gershon was asked after the game "how could you do it to Saras while his father came from Lithuania to see him play?" he answered that his (Gershon's) mother saw the game too...

[CG]

After 6 pages!!!!:confused: of conversations about Saras that i lost in 5 days that i was away i feel that i have something to say.

1.No one,but noone guarantees success even if you will sign Jordan.There are many other parameters like injuries,fatigue,adaptability of the players to the team and to the role coach wants them,their women!!!:D ,night life of Athens:D ,their desire for practising and training(unlike SOFO),their dislikes with their teammates and many many more.Also there is another factor,the team CSKA which should be consider and i remind you statements of Kirilenko about playing in Russian league this year, even if 63million dollars to throw away is something at least funny...So even if PAO completes the roster with the best squad ever he had or maybe the best names in a team that ever played in Europe that means nothing.The good teams are proven on the court.Just they have big capabilities of playing fantastic basketball this year.
To finish from this i want to remind you also Real Madrid and Inter in football....

2.Also dont underestimate teams unknown in how they are going to play like Efes,Maccabi,OLY.Cause they have many americans and as we know this players can win against any opponent in the continent but they can also lose from any small team in their bad day.So noone knows again their teams and their potencial.The same goes to the host of the F4 Real which has good team and maybe the help of the black ones..And some other teams except Barca which with Acker,Basile and the rest of the company are like a bomb ready to blow:D

3.PAO has so many guards.According from the first friendly games i can see that Vujanic like Mace is much better this year with good and stable shooting
ability.So definetely will stay.After all along with Winston are the best players of PAO in the first friendly games.Beci also plays good and he is one of the best players of the team (and one of the favorites of Obradovic).DD and V-Span are out of question..so poor Hatzivrettas or Perperoglou with his luck of experience are going to left out from the euroleague at least.Perperoglou played nicely in the friendly games but is not enough in difficult stages of euroleague.In Greek championship most probably is to leave out of the team Tomasevic and remember my words on that.At least in the beginning in order to see who is playing bad for a future players change.

4.Its funny that some OLY fans which were saying how good player Saras is, to describe him now like someone who cant play 20 minutes:D or he is worthless.Yes i agree that the money are enormous but i dont care cause i am fan and want to see my team having the best players and playing good basketball.This is other people problem (bros Gianakopouloi).But its silly to say he wont help PAO :)Ofcourse are some fans of OLY which remain in the same beliefs and are fair.

5.Ofcourse Saras wont be 6th player of PAO.He will be starter and most probably will be V-Span as he was in most games of PAO 2years ago.So for me the team will go something like that

1.Saras
2.DD
3.Winston
4.Batiste
5.Tsartsaris or Zizic

6.Another thing for sure is that along with Saras and V-Span PAO will be definitely first in mistakes:D

7.Do You think that DD,LaKovic,Beci,Chatzivrettas and some more are crazy to stay in PAO seeing Obradovic yelling at them and like it :D please:)even when Javtokas left PAO for Dynamo praised Obradovic and said very nice words!!!(strangely i have to admit) to Saras..is it by luck?And did you see Obradovic yelling at Siska?All players have their way to be closed by another person and Obradovic knows it so well so many years in PAO

[Straight forward]

4 me it's all about the manager.He was the one who took him away from Olympiacos and brought him 2 PAO.What seems strange though is this:Saras insisted on trying once more in the NBA, so he was looking 4 a chance 2 prove himself.A similar challenge 2 this in europe would b Olympiacos who is trying 2 climb 2 the top again.He would have the chance 2 prove himself again as a leader and as a player who can still make the big difference.Instead he prefers 2 sign 4 the european champion, a team that was able 2 win the EL again even without him.2 me this decision looks like avoiding risk.So how can a player who searches 4 a challenge in USA avoid this type of challenge in europe?

Firs of all, it's realy nerve-(w)racking attitude from some guys that PAO is something realy special this year (it's not prsonaly for T.W.Is.M.). Yes, if Saras will sighned for PAO, they are favorites but not more. The same thing i was saying throught the all Eurobasket about SPAIN. respect such teams like CSKA, Barsa, Tau, Real, Maccabi. Specially CSKA where will play SISKAUSKAS, HOLDEN, SMODIS- one of the best players of this Eurobasket. Yes, Jasikevicius will have a big challenge, imho, even better that he would have in OLY. Now everybody will say "Pao must win, specially with Saras". You saw how Spain looked in the final after such pressure from everywhere. Imho, the main reason why Lithuania lost in semi-final was the same. Everyone is expecting great bball from Jasikevicius, so this is pretty huge challenge for him.

[EverGreen]

Believe me that he will shout enough on Saras. He will enjoy his skills very much but at the same time shout at him a lot. Saras is not the player that will do exactly as the coach says, but still he is the best PG in Europe.
In a game against Zalgiris in Tel-Aviv, Saras didn't do exactly what Gershon told him in the last attack of the first half, and he sat on the bench all the second half even though his father came from Lithuania especially to see this game. When Gershon was asked after the game "how could you do it to Saras while his father came from Lithuania to see him play?" he answered that his (Gershon's) mother saw the game too...

Obradovic doesnt shout at everyone.

He chooses who he shouts at. He'll never shout at Diamantidis, Alvertis, Hatzivrettas, Tomasevic, Tsartsaris, Dikoudis or Saras now no matter how bad they f@ck up.

On the other hand he waits in the corner for Vujanic, Becirovic, Spanoulis, Batiste etc.

Lakovic used to be his favorite at shouting at.

[Picek]

By the way...we lost to AEK yesterday..you can organise a party at your house now.
I'm saving that for later ;)
just like I celebrated lithuanian bronze :D
Pao is one of two big favorites to win the euroleague but so was Greece before the eurobasket.. :D

[Vasileios Spanoulis]

I don't think the players care about Obradovic and the shouting that much. Spanoulis said that he shouts at him all the time but that he loves him as a coach.

On the other hand he said Van Gundy yelled at him all the time and he doesn't like him.

It's because Obradovic was also making players improve but Van Gundy yelled only to tell you, "Welcome to my doghouse forever.

So it's more how the coach intends with the shouts than the just the shouts themselves.

As for the guard situation several media said 3D will play point forward. So I don't see why everyone keeps acting like now PAO has to dump all these guards.

Besides, Spanoulis can play either back court position equally well and he is probably the best 6th man in Europe if you use him in that role, plus of course he can start either position.

So since Spanoulis has the flexibility of playing point guard or shooting guard and starting either spot or being 6th man playing both spots, I don't think this is such an issue as people are saying.

The main issue will be can Diamantidis play point forward but I honestly see no reason why he cannot. He and Saras can share the ball handling and play making and when Saras is on the bench he can run it with the second team.

And he's about 1.96m (6-5) 95kg (210), his weight listing is very old, he's really about 95kg I would say.

His wingspan is what about 2.13m (7-0)?

He has HUGE hands. He can guard any perimeter player. So I don't see really much of this is actually a problem as people imply.

Hatzivrettas will have his minutes cut and Perperoglu probably won't play much, probably no Euroleague.

Kennedy Winston is a winner's type player and he should definitely be getting much playing time so this leaves no room for Perperoglu and small playing time for Hatzivrettas most likely.

[CG]

Obradovic style of game is with 3 short guys mainly.Remember Lakovic,V-Span,DD 2 years ago and what basketball PAO played.Dont remember the ending though:D
so its not about playing with SF but playing with 3 short players while if you want to add height you put WInston for example. its so simple

[ArkadiosV2]

EverGreen you are wrong.

I saw it with my own eyes on OAKA. Obradovic yelling at Alvertis and Alvertis standing 5cm from his face and yelling back.

Not to mention Dikoudis, especially at the end of the season, when he subbed him seconds after he put him in every game.

But that's Obradovic way, nothing personal i guess.

I think Tomasevic will stay out of Greek A1 for now, he can't afford playing 2 games/week for a whole seasons anyway. Just like last season, so he builts up his strength and stamina and then Obradovic will decide when the playoffs are close.

As for euroleague squad, if there are not any injuries, Perperoglou will be probably out.

Winston for me will be starting for sure, he will be the new Siskauskas for Pana.

[EverGreen]

I'm saving that for later ;)
just like I celebrated lithuanian bronze :D
Pao is one of two big favorites to win the euroleague but so was Greece before the eurobasket.. :D

You know what we call that in Greece?

Screwing with someone else's balls.

If I threw a party everytime Croatia and Cibona got screwed, I'd be throwing
a party every day and most probably be an alcohoolic by now :D

Anyway, if your sad existance makes you happy, who am I to try take that away from you. :cool:

[EverGreen]

EverGreen you are wrong.

I saw it with my own eyes on OAKA. Obradovic yelling at Alvertis and Alvertis standing 5cm from his face and yelling back.



That must have been a long time ago cos I really don't reme it recently. Last 4-5 years.

[Saniboy]

Hi Guys,,,some of you dont get it. Zots could make Ronaldinho,Federer and Raikonnen play together for the team,basketball that is, and everyone would have his own role and be satisfied!!!

Panathinaikos,at least under his command for last 8y, works under a certain code.''The team above every1'' and the climate in the team is such,that every player easily accepts that,or he wouldnt blend in....its an auto-pilot thing,no matter if you get 100k a year or 2mil.

Obradovic never stopped a talented player to do his own thing in the court,never stopped players that have the ability to do it...he always says to 3D that he should take more attempts in offense and Siska,like Dejan,Ibo,Jaka,Katas etc. always acted on their own on occations and Zots was behind them,supporting their talent.So,i have no doubt that Saras would be just like them.

The real party should be hosted by the frontline.Players like Zisic,Tsartsaris will look even better than they are from the help of the backcourt....i mean the top 5 European players in pick n roll are Spanoulis,Diamantidis,Sani,Saras and Papaloukas and the 4 of them are here. The rest of Eurostars guards like Holden,Cabezas etc..are way back on that matter.

The biggest reason Saras chose the the Greens instead of the Reds is FOR ME,that he actually thought about it...
If he signed for the Reds,assuming the $$ were equal(not really sure),Gerson would ask him to play for 35min and up,organizing a team of 10 new players from scratch and having to deal against the biggest rival in Greece and Europe,Panathinakos,who has a well oiled machine.And all that at the age of 31.If he was like 25,maybe he could see it as a challenge,but now its not funny.He better be a part of that well oiled machine,if he feels tired,or wotever ...he can play like 10,15,20 min max and the team wont feel a difference,and with that rythm,he can play at that high level for at least 3 years.In Oly,30 secs on the bench and Pini would yell in panic,"get in,get in",at least until they learn to play as a team with so many new players.

Ok,all that is just my specs,maybe he just thought,"Im not going to Oly and have Diamantidis,3D Octopus guard me all time,thats a nightmare''!!

Last year Panathinaikos lost only games after he clinched 1st group place.
This year,i think every team that loses less than 20 points should get some dinner coupons or sth.

[Straight forward]

Do you think the contract will be announced just after the midnight?

[CG]

ofcourse not:)bros Gianakopouloi want also to sleep:D they can wait untill tomorrow (i am not sure about that :p )

[ArkadiosV2]

Do you think the contract will be announced just after the midnight?

No. Tomorrow is the Greek A1 draw and there will a very big ceremony with many famous basketball people.

Zarko Paspalj, Wayne Cooper, Scott Pollard, Chris Webber, Panayiotis Fassoulas, Panayiotis Yannakis, Dusan Ivkovic, Alexander Djordjevic, Predrag Danilovic, Vlade Divac will all be there.

Plus it will be live on TV, so it will get a lot of attention from a lot of people, so my guess is that they will announce it tomorrow at the draw.

Although, i've read in some sites that a player must remain at the waivers list for a week before signing with another club, some other site say two working days.

As a matter of fact, Jasikevicius himself is coming to Athens on Thursday.

[Straight forward]

No. Tomorrow is the Greek A1 draw and there will a very big ceremony with many famous basketball people.

Zarko Paspalj, Wayne Cooper, Scott Pollard, Chris Webber, Panayiotis Fassoulas, Panayiotis Yannakis, Dusan Ivkovic, Alexander Djordjevic, Predrag Danilovic, Vlade Divac will all be there.

Plus it will be live on TV, so it will get a lot of attention from a lot of people, so my guess is that they will announce it tomorrow at the draw.

Although, i've read in some sites that a player must remain at the waivers list for a week before signing with another club, some other site say two working days.

As a matter of fact, Jasikevicius himself is coming to Athens on Thursday.

fanx! Lith media already reported about this event with a lot of serbian players. I was joking that there will be only one star Jasikevicius! :D

[CG]

As a matter of fact, Jasikevicius himself is coming to Athens on Thursday.


as i told you....;)

[T.W.Is.M.]

What are waivers?

It's a temporary status for players who are released by their team. A player released between August 15th and the end of the regular season stays on waivers for 48 hours. A player released at any other time stays on waivers for seven days. During the waiver period other teams may claim a waived player. If more than one team tries to claim the player, the team with the worst record gets him. If a player on waivers is claimed, the new team acquires his existing contract and pays the remainder of his salary. There is also a fee of $1,000, payable to the league office, for claiming a waived player.

source:http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#54

If I managed 2 understand it well, Jasikevicius' case is the first one:he was released between Aug.15 and the end of the regular season.Therefore, he should stay on waivers for 48 hours, that is until Saturday evening.No mention here about working days, so the scenario about clearing waivers tonight is probably false.So he could have signed 2 PAO since Saturday.Am I right?(Probably Kontorevithoulides bros want 2 announce him in the proper time, but anyway I hope I solve the mystery about waivers)

[CG]

What are waivers?

It's a temporary status for players who are released by their team. A player released between August 15th and the end of the regular season stays on waivers for 48 hours. A player released at any other time stays on waivers for seven days. During the waiver period other teams may claim a waived player. If more than one team tries to claim the player, the team with the worst record gets him. If a player on waivers is claimed, the new team acquires his existing contract and pays the remainder of his salary. There is also a fee of $1,000, payable to the league office, for claiming a waived player.

source:http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#54

If I managed 2 understand it well, Jasikevicius' case is the first one:he was released between Aug.15 and the end of the regular season.Therefore, he should stay on waivers for 48 hours, that is until Saturday evening.No mention here about working days, so the scenario about clearing waivers tonight is probably false.So he could have signed 2 PAO since Saturday.Am I right?(Probably Kontorevithoulides bros want 2 announce him in the proper time, but anyway I hope I solve the mystery about waivers)


xm this means that maybe the OFFICIALY FAVORITE DAY Will beTHURSDAY or FRIDAY as well.Maybe the day (Thursday) he will come again for vacations to his lovely Athens:D

[ArkadiosV2]

If Saras makes one of the following statements in his presentation i'm going to puke...

1. It was my dream since i was 6 to play for Panathinaikos...
2. I used to watch Galis tapes when i was 12...
3. Panathinaikos is the best European Club...
4. Athens is my favourite city...
5. I feel Greece like my second home...
6. Greeks and Lithuanians are brother nations...
7. I am glad that i will meet my best friends Macas and Pini...

[insider]

If Saras makes one of the following statements in his presentation i'm going to puke...

1. It was my dream since i was 6 to play for Panathinaikos...
2. I used to watch Galis tapes when i was 12...
3. Panathinaikos is the best European Club...
4. Athens is my favourite city...
5. I feel Greece like my second home...
6. Greeks and Lithuanians are brother nations...
7. I am glad that i will meet my best friends Macas and Pini...

Only #7 is possible and close to reality, Saras was never talking BS, don;t worry you are not gonna to puke.

[Fedfan]

Gianakopoulos said on ERT that tomorrow,will come the news.Skountis asked him repeatedly if he had something to announce,but he said no tomorrow.:) Can't wait.

[Gytaz]

You mean the 3rd. Which is true.

Actually, I agree. I think of those 7 statements Šaras could only say this one.

[T.W.Is.M.]

If Saras makes one of the following statements in his presentation i'm going to puke...

1. It was my dream since i was 6 to play for Panathinaikos...
2. I used to watch Galis tapes when i was 12...
3. Panathinaikos is the best European Club...
4. Athens is my favourite city...
5. I feel Greece like my second home...
6. Greeks and Lithuanians are brother nations...
7. I am glad that i will meet my best friends Macas and Pini...

Give him a 100€ bill and he will say all of these:p
He will not only mention Galis, but Koronaios and Liveris Andritsos:D

[CG]

3rd option is something common for every player coming to PAO.the same said Zizic,Winston and the same will say future signings.As european champion anyone can say that.

[ArkadiosV2]

Jasikevicius is special, i will be very sick and angry if he says tht Pana is the best club in Europe, he should say that Pana is the ebst club in the world.

Number 7 is the only thing he will never say.

[EverGreen]

[QUOTE=ArkadiosV2]Jasikevicius is special, i will be very sick and angry if he says tht Pana is the best club in Europe, he should say that Pana is the ebst club in the world.

Number 7 is the only thing he will never say.[/QUOTE

Well truth is that we are the best (basketball) club in Europe and it's proven. Not a just a trading "puff". Goal now is to become the best in the universe. San Antonio we are coming!

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Jasikevicius is special, i will be very sick and angry if he says tht Pana is the best club in Europe, he should say that Pana is the ebst club in the world.

Number 7 is the only thing he will never say.

Well truth is that we are the best (basketball) club in Europe and it's proven. Not a just a trading "puff". Goal now is to become the best in the universe. San Antonio we are coming!

I hope you don't really believe this about World Champion etc. It's just a friendly match, at least for them. Explain me something. Let's say Pao will win Spurs. That's means you're the best team in the world ? Cause I bet, non of the stars of Spurs will play in this game. In the other hand, if Spurs roster will be full in this match, and you will win, then you will be right, and I will clap your team.

[EverGreen]

I hope you don't really believe this about World Champion etc. It's just a friendly match, at least for them. Explain me something. Let's say Pao will win Spurs. That's means you're the best team in the world ? Cause I bet, non of the stars of Spurs will play in this game. In the other hand, if Spurs roster will be full in this match, and you will win, then you will be right, and I will clap your team.

Obviously I want S.A to play with all their stars. I think they will too cos the Yanks are good at makingevents and they can easily dub it "Battle of the Champions" just to get a sell out although it really is an exhibition game.

[Fedfan]

I hope you don't really believe this about World Champion etc. It's just a friendly match, at least for them. Explain me something. Let's say Pao will win Spurs. That's means you're the best team in the world ? Cause I bet, non of the stars of Spurs will play in this game. In the other hand, if Spurs roster will be full in this match, and you will win, then you will be right, and I will clap your team.

Yeah,well also we won't be so much prepared too.:rolleyes:
These type of games should be played at the end of the season not at the beggining.

[fulcizombie]

Saras was just announced by Pao.(just like i first wrote here 11 days ago).

Huge defeat for Aggelopoulos' brothers who proved this summer that they can't compete with the top clubs of Europe when it comes to signing great players.Now another season of mediocrity awaits Oly.

Thank God i didn't buy a season ticket!;)

[Fedfan]

SARAS IS HERE!!!

:eek: :) :D

http://baskonia.ninaiz.com/blog/velimir/06042624404sarunas0720.jpg

[AssAsin]

how much Saras will earn per year???

[jaka13]

SARAS IS GREEN!
Let us sign the contract of the conquer of Euroleague!!:D :D

[rikhardur]

Looks like the signings and rumours around him ended today, what a saga :p

[kestas]

if Spurs roster will be full in this match, and you will win, then you will be right, and I will clap your team.

they will play down this game even before it starts. in case of a loss NBA will not hesitate to remind everyone Spurs were hardly 50% prepared for the season, while Pana played 100%. in any case NBA fans will go overboard out of joy that the supposedly best team of Europe has their worst second string PG as their main star. read: our leftovers are very good for Europe, while their stars can do nothing out there. Horay, NBA is still lightyears ahead of Euroleague!
furthermore, NBA has a safeguard: if Spurs lose they will pull Zalgiris results to the front page ;) Zalgiris lost to Sarthe Basket by 24 on sunday, so they surely can't be no threat, can they? and, I mean, who can tell the difference: Zalgiris or Panathinaikos. two clubs with stupid names and a bunch of stiffs, who would die out of exhaustion after the first month in the much superior world championships a.k.a. NBA.

[Fedfan]

how much Saras will earn per year???

2 years 7 million euro.Excluding the bonuses and the buy out.:cool:

The most expensive professional athlete in all greek history of all sports.

[Z.A.L.I.A.]

Saras (http://www.youtube.com/v/kkynmlGS8-Q)

[ROBINIS]

I'm not sure, if PAO fans have reason for big celebrations. I'm not sure, if Oly fans should cry. I'm not sure, if Saras made the best decision.
As i understand, Oly owners are new in basket, they have huge money and great ambitions, PAO owners are more experienced and eager to deflate enthusiasts from Oly. Saras had a role of "Holy Grail", who price was bubbled. And i honestly doubt if his decision was weigh. He was not suitable for any greek team. His optimal decision should be Barsa.

But anyway, congratulations to Mauricio B. :) Good job:)

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

I'm not sure, if PAO fans have reason for big celebrations. I'm not sure, if Oly fans should cry. I'm not sure, if Saras made the best decision.
As i understand, Oly owners are new in basket, they have huge money and great ambitions, PAO owners are more experienced and eager to deflate enthusiasts from Oly. Saras had a role of "Holy Grail", who price was bubbled. And i honestly doubt if his decision was weigh. He was not suitable for any greek team. His optimal decision should be Barsa.

But anyway, congratulations to Mauricio B. :) Good job:)

Finally, Saras moved officialy to Pao. I insist that the best Lithuanian player is in Oly's roster. Macas for president!!!! :D

[Picek]

I vote for this thread to be finally locked now.. :)

[CG]

Saras in PAO?what a surprise:D
i agree with Greenfan.It is interesting to see how newspapers will welcome his signing and it will be interesting to see what will he said in his arrival.The thread should be remain a little longer open.
Saras perfectly suits with PAO.This team has so many players that have "off ball" abilities and a good PG can help them a lot.Untill now DD was doing that but sometimes was being tired.Afterall he lost 1 game in 4 years..now can share this role with Saras.You will see it.
The only thing that will keep him away of being terrific this season playing along side with so many good players is the injury factor and nothing else.
I wouldnt want to be in the place of Aggelopouloi now and how their fans are feeling.Gianakopouloi bros proved that anyone they want they can bring it.

[kestas]

Gianakopouloi bros proved that anyone they want they can bring it.

but if it indeed was their decision and not Obradovic's, then it basically sucks. let's hope it all turns out for the best and it was indeed Obradovic who pushed for Saras. however, somehow it doen't look extremely well, this signing doesn't feel like a perfect fit (although who are we to judge so early).

btw, the thread should remain open, imho, at least till the end of this weak. e.g. i'm curious who in NBA expressed interest in Saras (coz there should have been interest, no doubt about that). now we know no one there managed to get him (they would probably be technically and morally unable to offer him the money he'll get from Pana), but it's still interesting.

edit: btw, I agree everyone would benefit more if he signed with a weaker team.

[Fedfan]

I'm not sure, if PAO fans have reason for big celebrations. I'm not sure, if Oly fans should cry. I'm not sure, if Saras made the best decision.
As i understand, Oly owners are new in basket, they have huge money and great ambitions, PAO owners are more experienced and eager to deflate enthusiasts from Oly. Saras had a role of "Holy Grail", who price was bubbled. And i honestly doubt if his decision was weigh. He was not suitable for any greek team. His optimal decision should be Barsa.

But anyway, congratulations to Mauricio B. :) Good job:)

Yes,but as they say the best defence is offence.;) Instead of letting your "enemy" the opportunity to get such a major weapon you go and get it yourself even if it's not sooo necessary + a big media win.And as they say,better laughs who laughs last.(after the teodocic inciddent)

Anyway,he'll play in A1 so that's what matters in the end for me.More great players.:) Maybe though I should go buy some Depon,and aspirins.:)

[Picek]

Gianakopouloi bros proved that anyone they want they can bring it.
then how come Šiškauskas left Pao?

[kestas]

then how come Šiškauskas left Pao?

yeah, Siskauskas now looks pretty cheap.
maybe they could still bring him back from CSKA? :D

[Fedfan]

then how come Šiškauskas left Pao?

Well..they can bring them,but not necesarily keep them. ;p

[CG]

but if it indeed was their decision and not Obradovic's, then it basically sucks. let's hope it all turns out for the best and it was indeed Obradovic who pushed for Saras. however, somehow it doen't look extremely well, this signing doesn't feel like a perfect fit (although who are we to judge so early).

btw, the thread should remain open, imho, at least till the end of this weak. e.g. i'm curious who in NBA expressed interest in Saras (coz there should have been interest, no doubt about that). now we know no one there managed to get him (they would probably be technically and morally unable to offer him the money he'll get from Pana), but it's still interesting.

edit: btw, I agree everyone would benefit more if he signed with a weaker team.

some days ago there was an interview of Mr Obradovic saying that the congratulations of his team the last 10 years (almost) which is on the bench of PAO is belonging to the presidents and to him.He also said that they bought whoever i want.And every sign PAO did all those years was according his desire.Link.
http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=102564

as we all know Obradovic talked with him.and Saras is clever big man.Do you think he choose wrongly?Or Obradovic told him liesNot ofcourse.Dont judge things so quickly.Afteall all the players that left PAO was saying the best about the club,coach,technical stuff and especially bros.



then how come Šiškauskas left Pao?


Picek stop being picek:D grow at last cause you will be like TP in few years.

about Siska.Noone knows what happened.Siska said this year was his best in his life but couldnt resist to the money CSKA spend.But didnt allow bros to give them the similar money cause he left suddently without a word
other sayed that bros gave them 1.9 but i dont know if this is true.After his departure bros sayed that he couldnt do a thing and want it so much to go there.anyway the thing that bros sayed about buying everything theywant was just to tease OLY.but they love their team and they dont care about money.thats all.

[FRANKY 13]

Huge transfert. The Euroleague looks amazing as so many teams look better than last year.

It is going to be beautiful.:cool:

Ps. Too bad Fotsis isnt playing.

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Huge transfert. The Euroleague looks amazing as so many teams look better than last year.

It is going to be beautiful.:cool:

Ps. Too bad Fotsis isnt playing.

Btw, imho Fotsis was a bit selfish with Oly's transfer. There was a difference by 300.00 euros, and Fotsis made the bad choice. I prefer 1,4 mil. euros per year, but be in a team that have many possibilities to be in the next final4, instead of 1,7 mil. euros but stay in Moscow. I don't know. What do you think ? ;)

[FRANKY 13]

Btw, imho Fotsis was a bit selfish with Oly's transfer. There was a difference by 300.00 euros, and Fotsis made the bad choice. I prefer 1,4 mil. euros per year, but be in a team that have many possibilities to be in the next final4, instead of 1,7 mil. euros but stay in Moscow. I don't know. What do you think ? ;)

I totally agree with u.

It would have been great to have him playing for Olympiacos.

[ArkadiosV2]

Btw, imho Fotsis was a bit selfish with Oly's transfer. There was a difference by 300.00 euros, and Fotsis made the bad choice. I prefer 1,4 mil. euros per year, but be in a team that have many possibilities to be in the next final4, instead of 1,7 mil. euros but stay in Moscow. I don't know. What do you think ? ;)

Why get paid less and play in more games? Only an idiot would do that.

But i guess, you would sacrifise 300 000 Euros with closed eyes... so easy to sing when you are outside of the dance...

Moscow is the New York of North, who wouldn't like to live in Moscow?

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Why get paid less and play in more games? Only an idiot would do that.

But i guess, you would sacrifise 300 000 Euros with closed eyes... so easy to sing when you are outside of the dance...

Moscow is the New York of North, who wouldn't like to live in Moscow?

You think that 300.000 eyros, is a big amount of money for Aggelopoulos ? If you're basketball player, you like playing the game. For a basketball player, 300.000 eyros are a very small amount of money, to sacrifice for your reputation you may earn with your new team.

And in the end, Olympiakos is by far, best and historical team, that Dinamo is. Simply Fotsis, doesn't want to play in a stadium ( OAKA ) where all the fans of the other team, are bothered with his mother, or his wife, if you know what I mean...Fans education is the problem, not the 300.000 euros! ;)

[reignman]

maybe to play in a higher level?

so you mean... baston , parker etc.. that are paid crap in the NBA compared to the salaries they had in europe... they are stupid? they are playing much more games... and getting payed less...

ahmmmm

[ArkadiosV2]

maybe to play in a higher level?

so you mean... baston , parker etc.. that are paid crap in the NBA compared to the salaries they had in europe... they are stupid? they are playing much more games... and getting payed less...

ahmmmm

They are not idiots... not smart either though if you ask me.

Papaloukas for example is much smarter... he used the NBA clubs to increase his value and now gets paid more and plays less. He is not even starting in CSKA!

I guess Baston and Parker had something to prove as Americans and waned to make it in the NBA, but NBA is one thing and Greek A1 is another thing.

Fotsis wanted to prove something, he tried NBA, didn't quite make it, so i think he is mature enough now to choose what is best for him.

He has played in NBA, he played and won a Euroleague final at the age of 19, he won the Greek A1, he was the first Greek player to play for Real Madrid, so why would he come back to Greece for LESS money?

Dynamo Moscow official site interviewed him last season and he stated that he loves everything about Moscow, yes even the weather. And he said that Moscow has things he could never have in Athens. So tough luck...

And because we went OT again, i ll stop here.

Maybe we should make a 'Greeks Abroad' thread in the Greek Bball section?

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Maybe we should make a 'Greeks Abroad' thread in the Greek Bball section?

I agree...

[EverGreen]

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2571/prota8lhthsbbo1.jpg



Botton left hand corner....

"Amazing delelopment last night in the case of the Lithuanian as the player sent a signed pre-agreed contract to Olympiakos and his signing maybe announced today" (17-08-2007)

:D

[FRANKY 13]

Why get paid less and play in more games? Only an idiot would do that.

But i guess, you would sacrifise 300 000 Euros with closed eyes... so easy to sing when you are outside of the dance...

Moscow is the New York of North, who wouldn't like to live in Moscow?

I spent 5 years in Moscow and its a great city. Not that much for Mediterraneans though, you can trust me on that. Of course I'm generalizing a bit here, but the majority of the Greeks would prefer somewhere more shiny.

Anyway man, what's 300 thousand when u already have got 1.5 millions and live in your country? Teams pay more to foreign players in order to draw their attention, thats the whole point.

Somehow I don't think Dikoudis would exchange the million he is getting for 200 more thousand or something + Moscow. And that is just an exemple among others.

The argument about more games is kind of weak: It takes more games to join the elite and that's the way things are so far.

But at the end, I guess that like you said its easy to sing when you are out of the dance.:cool:

ps.Sorry I had missed the fact he loves Moscow so much. I should erase my post than as it clearly doesn't aply to Tony.

ps2. I agree about the Greeks abroad thread.

[ArnoldPettybone]

maybe to play in a higher level?

so you mean... baston , parker etc.. that are paid crap in the NBA compared to the salaries they had in europe... they are stupid? they are playing much more games... and getting payed less...

ahmmmm
Parker and baston NBA salaries are more then twice then the salaries they had in Europe.
Just to set the record straight.

[EverGreen]

Parker and baston NBA salaries are more then twice then the salaries they had in Europe.
Just to set the record straight.

They had in Maccabi you mean ;)

I they came to Europe now, they would definately have better salaries.

[ArnoldPettybone]

They had in Maccabi you mean ;)

I they came to Europe now, they would definately have better salaries.
So meant reignman as wall. he wrote "had".
anyways, parker and baston will be payd 4mil and roughly 1.9-1.7mil a year this upcoming season.
calling this salaries crap in comparison to salaries they would receive in Europe today is a joke.

[elaj]

So meant reignman as wall. he wrote "had".
anyways, parker and baston will be payd 4mil and roughly 1.9-1.7mil a year this upcoming season.
calling this salaries crap in comparison to salaries they would receive in Europe today is a joke.
Anthony Parker - $4,350,000 (2007/2008), $4,550,000 (2008/2009)
Maceo Baston - $1,830,000 (2007/2008), $1,970,000 (2008/2009)

hoopshype.com - Salaries (http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/toronto.htm)

Lets consider that both will have to pay taxes from this numbers, lets consider that NBA teams don't provide them with a place to live, a car, etc. Lets also consider that both are living and paying taxes to Canada which has higher tax % then USA. That says it all. In my opinion Baston and Paker could get much better contracts today on European basketball market, considering the situation and circumstances going on.

[ArkadiosV2]

Wow, Baston is seriously underpaid. Mike Batiste, who is at Baston's calibre gets paid $2.400.000/year NET. Plus the bonuses.

[T.W.Is.M.]

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2571/prota8lhthsbbo1.jpg



Botton left hand corner....

"Amazing delelopment last night in the case of the Lithuanian as the player sent a signed pre-agreed contract to Olympiakos and his signing maybe announced today" (17-08-2007)

:D

If u hadn't read it back then, it was rumored that this frontpage was invented by people inside the team(close 2 Kokkalis) in order 2 ruin the signing so that Aggelopoulos wouldn't take credit.Finally it paid off...
But Air Kafkis is coming and all of u should shiver in this thought...:D

[ArnoldPettybone]

In my opinion Baston and Paker could get much better contracts today on European basketball market, considering the situation and circumstances going on.
I don't recall when or where I claimed otherwise.

[fulcizombie]

X
Some people don't seem to have understood where they are posting.I hope the pao fans are proud that guys like this one support their team.

-Taken care of. JCN

[EverGreen]

If u hadn't read it back then, it was rumored that this frontpage was invented by people inside the team(close 2 Kokkalis) in order 2 ruin the signing so that Aggelopoulos wouldn't take credit.Finally it paid off...
But Air Kafkis is coming and all of u should shiver in this thought...:D

Yeah but it also backfired for Nassuti as well :D

*he is a Argentinian (River Plate) football player that Olympiakos was also "singning" but didnt.

[mitsos13]

Yeah, yeah, right.Whatever...I won't play the "friendly guy" thing against my enemies, as many others here do.And that's because i know how YOU would react today if you had signed Jasikevicius.

Now go take a pill to recover from the shock...;)

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

If u hadn't read it back then, it was rumored that this frontpage was invented by people inside the team(close 2 Kokkalis) in order 2 ruin the signing so that Aggelopoulos wouldn't take credit.Finally it paid off...
But Air Kafkis is coming and all of u should shiver in this thought...:D

Yeah that's right, I've heared this too... :(
Btw, Air Kafkis will be this season MVP, so be careful all of you... :D

[Vasileios Spanoulis]

Yeah, yeah, right.Whatever...I won't play the "friendly guy" thing against my enemies, as many others here do.And that's because i know how YOU would react today if you had signed Jasikevicius.

Now go take a pill to recover from the shock...;)

Great avatar!

[sashikas]

What jersey number will Šaras get? As far as I understand #13 is untouchable... :rolleyes:

[goga78]

Why get paid less and play in more games? Only an idiot would do that.

But i guess, you would sacrifise 300 000 Euros with closed eyes... so easy to sing when you are outside of the dance...

Moscow is the New York of North, who wouldn't like to live in Moscow?

Agree. In addition, Dynamo is a great team (as I could watch it yesterday in a game against the Skyliners), playing in the second best league in Europe, where Fotsis will be getting lots of playing time, which is important for his confidence that has a history of being shaky.

[Straight forward]

(Penis?) Gerson after all is most dislike coach in Europe. he said that Pao has atleast two PG players who are better that Saras. I don't comment this cause it's not important, but i'm sure that if Oly would have singn Saras Pini would say "Saras is the best PG in the world".

[ArkadiosV2]

(Penis?) Gerson after all is most dislike coach in Europe. he said that Pao has atleast two PG players who are better that Saras. I don't comment this cause it's not important, but i'm sure that if Oly would have singn Saras Pini would say "Saras is the best PG in the world".

Surprise surprise... did you expect any different from Pini?
Today he actually stated that Greer is AS GOOD AS Saras and costs much cheaper and is younger.
And they wonder why Saras rejected Olympiakos...

PS: goga78, AT LAST you agree on something with another forum user...

[goga78]

(Penis?) Gerson after all is most dislike coach in Europe. he said that Pao has atleast two PG players who are better that Saras. I don't comment this cause it's not important, but i'm sure that if Oly would have singn Saras Pini would say "Saras is the best PG in the world".

That's not true. You are just judging it from your point-of-view. Pini Gershon is very well liked among Euroleague workers, since he is an interesting person, who is being the best coach with media in the whole league. I'm telling this due to being somewhat of an insider.
Pini isn't as diplomatic as some other coaches are, but he isn't lying in your face, too.
In fact, and that despite Saras being one of my very favourite players, I must say that Gershon never overvalued his PGs. He has won titles (or reached the final) with four different PGs, but there was one player that was responsible for the success, and in Gershon's mind it was Anthony Parker. This is his quote from the press conference at 2006 Final Four in Prague.


Surprise surprise... did you expect any different from Pini?
Today he actually stated that Greer is AS GOOD AS Saras and costs much cheaper and is younger.
And they wonder why Saras rejected Olympiakos...

PS: goga78, AT LAST you agree on something with another forum user...

Arkadios, it isn't like I always have different opinions than other people. In fact, my opinion differs from that of some other people, while again other people tend to agree with me. I won't agree with US-bashing, for example, as we are having this topic in another thread.
I consider Saras to be one of the best European PGs and probably the best playmaker of all of them, but he has his deficits and is certainly not worth the money he is getting. PAO does have other high-caliber guards and at his present form he isn't standing out that much, if talking about productivity. Still, as I said, he is one of my favourite players due to his impact he has on his teams offensively.

[Straight forward]

That's not true. You are just judging it from your point-of-view. Pini Gershon is very well liked among Euroleague workers, since he is an interesting person, who is being the best coach with media in the whole league. I'm telling this due to being somewhat of an insider.
Pini isn't as diplomatic as some other coaches are, but he isn't lying in your face, too.
In fact, and that despite Saras being one of my very favourite players, I must say that Gershon never overvalued his PGs. He has won titles (or reached the final) with four different PGs, but there was one player that was responsible for the success, and in Gershon's mind it was Anthony Parker. This is his quote from the press conference at 2006 Final Four in Prague.


I meant that Gerson is unloved coach FOR ME. It's even unnecessarily to talk about Euroleague if we're talking about Saras. He proved him self in Lith NT many times, unlike Gerson. At least that fatty should respect Saras after those years in Maccabi and don't talk undiplomatic bullshit.

[ArkadiosV2]

A two hours meeting between Panathinaikos officials, Police Department and the Fire Department (?!?!) was held in Athens this morning to set secutiry measures for Saras' arrivals...

For anyone who wants to go... he will arrive at 18:10 from Frankfurt and will come out of the Commercial Exit (across IKEA)...

He will then board a van accompanied by secutiry officers and take off without any statements.