View Full Version : Šarūnas Jasikevičius Signings and Rumours thread Vol. I
Jimmy
08-12-2007, 08:49 AM
Saras will sign in Oly in a week for 7-10 M$ per 1 year.
Source:
http://www.one.co.il/cat/articles/article.aspx?id=96980&bz=22
KokkinosVasilias
08-12-2007, 09:04 AM
Saras will sign in Oly in a week for 7-10 M$ per 1 year.
Source:
http://www.one.co.il/cat/articles/article.aspx?id=96980&bz=22
7-10 M$ per 1 year?!?!
could an Israeli user translate the most important parts of that article?
fulcizombie
08-12-2007, 09:15 AM
Saras will sign in Oly in a week for 7-10 M$ per 1 year.
Source:
http://www.one.co.il/cat/articles/article.aspx?id=96980&bz=22
Oh come on, this is a bit funny.Yes, Oly is offering saras a lot of money but not 7-10 (and that's a very wide range) million $ per year:D
KokkinosVasilias
08-12-2007, 09:19 AM
Oh come on, this is a bit funny.Yes, Oly is offering saras a lot of money but not 7-10 (and that's a very wide range) million $ per year:D
yeah, i am sure he meant 7-10 for 3 years...
but what about the 7 days he wrote...
Buducnost PG
08-12-2007, 09:22 AM
yeah, i am sure he meant 7-10 for 3 years...
but what about the 7 days he wrote...
Perhaps Saras is waiting to find a club in the NBA in the next 7 day, if not he will sign for Oly.
kecal
08-12-2007, 09:42 AM
He has to negotiate it with "Warriors" first. Buy-out is needed...
Roy M
08-12-2007, 09:53 AM
Saras will sign in Oly in a week for 7-10 M$ per 1 year.
Source:
http://www.one.co.il/cat/articles/article.aspx?id=96980&bz=22
Yeeee... "One" knows about Basketball as we know about snow in the middle of August in Tel-Aviv.
fulcizombie
08-12-2007, 10:00 AM
Yeeee... "One" knows about Basketball as we know about snow in the middle of August in Tel-Aviv.
It will really hurt you personally if Saras signs to Oly won't it??(judging by your post history)
Roy M
08-12-2007, 10:05 AM
It will really hurt you personally if Saras signs to Oly won't it??(judging by your post history)
It's just in your dreams. I read the "scoop", and when I saw who wrote it, I passed away.
fulcizombie
08-12-2007, 10:07 AM
It's just in your dreams. I read the "scoop", and when I saw who wrote it, I passed away.
You didn't answer my question.Will it affect your life so much??You seem so determined about this.:D
Roy M
08-12-2007, 10:26 AM
You didn't answer my question.Will it affect your life so much??You seem so determined about this.:D
You are my Psycho? Why do u try to put words in my keyboard?
I just said that The writer of the "scoop" knows only in "what is going on football players bedroom."
Manu Ginobili
08-12-2007, 10:54 AM
You didn't answer my question.Will it affect your life so much??You seem so determined about this.:D
I guess it had a vast effect, if he says he already "passed away" when he saw it :p
To be serious, I don't how reliable is this article. Most of this specific journalist articles turns out to be just a fancy or a complete invention. Anyway, If it was true, I guess it wouldn't come up here in Israel before it will be revealed in Greece.
fulcizombie
08-12-2007, 11:35 AM
I guess it had a vast effect, if he says he already "passed away" when he saw it :p
To be serious, I don't how reliable is this article. Most of this specific journalist articles turns out to be just a fancy or a complete invention. Anyway, If it was true, I guess it wouldn't come up here in Israel before it will be revealed in Greece.
Actually you are wrong there.Many stories concerning Oly have been revealed in Israel media first , due to Gershon.I can't remember specifics but this was ordinary last summer.
Of course this doesn't mean that this article is true and i was asking(teasing) Roy M because he seems so obsessed whenever Saras' name is mentioned .
T.W.Is.M.
08-12-2007, 12:08 PM
Just one question 2 Roy_M because he seems sure that Jasikevicius wll remain in the NBA while some of us doubt it:Where do u think he will play and why do u believe in it?Please name a few teams.Just saying "he will not return 2 europe" is vague.
fulcizombie
08-12-2007, 12:55 PM
Apparently the journalist that wrote that piece (and i wish an Israel member would make a translation of the article) is a very close friend to Gershon and despite being a football journalist he is the guy that Gershon gives most of his interviews to.
Is this true or false??
Roy M
08-12-2007, 01:33 PM
Apparently the journalist that wrote that piece (and i wish an Israel member would make a translation of the article) is a very close friend to Gershon and despite being a football journalist he is the guy that Gershon gives most of his interviews to.
Is this true or false??
That's right, but in the article was written, that Gershon dosn't involved
in the contact between Saras and Oly.
Turkish Airlines Euroleague
08-12-2007, 02:45 PM
In my opinion, Saras will finally move to Olympiakos. There is no other way for Saras. NBA doors are closed for him, and he better accept the super offer of Olympiakos.
cheezdoodle
08-12-2007, 03:01 PM
that same site is now saying that Maccabi Tel Aviv is getting involved with Saras as well. They are quoting Moni Fanan saying that "not only Olimpiacos is interested in Saras." He also said that Barcelona is interested.
PjMcMarius
08-12-2007, 03:04 PM
According to Diario Sport, Barcelona will sign Pepe Sánchez for 1 season + 1.
thats all, i think if barca still had hope to sign saras, they dont sign this one. saras must show his skills in europe again, because nba arent to much mature for players like saras. I can just imagine, how looks saras n macas duo. specifically against lithuanian teams :D sad memorials from past season, then saras, macas scored 30+ points against zalgiris :( :rolleyes: there is theirs patriotism :cool: damn. whats about maccabi chances to take back saras to its roster, i think the possible is less like the portugal will be eurobasket 2007 winner... old good times (and maccabi) changes (holly crap, sorry for gramatic mistakes)
PjMcMarius
08-12-2007, 03:09 PM
that same site is now saying that Maccabi Tel Aviv is getting involved with Saras as well. They are quoting Moni Fanan saying that "not only Olimpiacos is interested in Saras." He also said that Barcelona is interested.
Its something like joke from me, but saras in one interview had also said, that he had one big dream: to play in one team with his younger brother Vytenis Jasikevicius. Maybe its the key to take saras :D but all rights to him have Zalgiris Kaunas
Bullock
08-12-2007, 03:50 PM
Its something like joke from me, but saras in one interview had also said, that he had one big dream: to play in one team with his younger brother Vytenis Jasikevicius. Maybe its the key to take saras :D but all rights to him have Zalgiris Kaunas
vytenis jasikevicius is a clown. saras hasn't playd in zalgiris all his life and i guess it would never happen. remember zalgiris-olimpija after the match
Joško Poljak Fan
08-12-2007, 04:07 PM
vytenis jasikevicius is a clown. saras hasn't playd in zalgiris all his life and i guess it would never happen. remember zalgiris-olimpija after the match
I guess you're talking about the season Šaras played in Ljubljana, what exactly happened after the game?
guyOFK
08-12-2007, 05:04 PM
Apparently the journalist that wrote that piece (and i wish an Israel member would make a translation of the article) is a very close friend to Gershon and despite being a football journalist he is the guy that Gershon gives most of his interviews to.
Is this true or false??
Well it said that Saras got an offer from OLY somthing like 7 to 10 M $ a year and gershon is not negotiating with him but the team owner socratis cocalis (sorry if I'm wrong). Sars said that Maccabi is in his heart but OlY's offer is the most seriuse and he is sad if he's NBA dream would not come true. he should reply soon to that offer and the article saying that he suppouse to sign in a week. allso mentioned that maccabi is in the race too.
hope I helped a liitle bit.
Bullock
08-12-2007, 06:08 PM
I guess you're talking about the season Šaras played in Ljubljana, what exactly happened after the game?
When Olimpija has won in Kaunas, Šaras after the match stand in the middle of arena and showed this sign http://www.geocities.com/tadas1969/spyga.gif to all zalgiris fans
fulcizombie
08-12-2007, 06:53 PM
Well it said that Saras got an offer from OLY somthing like 7 to 10 M $ a year and gershon is not negotiating with him but the team owner socratis cocalis (sorry if I'm wrong). Sars said that Maccabi is in his heart but OlY's offer is the most seriuse and he is sad if he's NBA dream would not come true. he should reply soon to that offer and the article saying that he suppouse to sign in a week. allso mentioned that maccabi is in the race too.
hope I helped a liitle bit.
Thank you very much and ,honestly, this article seems like a bigger joke to me after i saw what you wrote.Not only is the salary wrong (7-10 million $ per year,yeah right) but there's no way that Kokkalis has anything to do with this offer or with Oly's basketball division.He just has the title of "president" (as an honorable mention) and nothing more.
When Olimpija has won in Kaunas, Šaras after the match stand in the middle of arena and showed this sign http://www.geocities.com/tadas1969/spyga.gif to all zalgiris fans
Huh?..:rolleyes:
Saras has declined Olympiakos offer,reports ''Lietuvos Rytas'' newspaper.
PjMcMarius
08-13-2007, 10:15 AM
vytenis jasikevicius is a clown. saras hasn't playd in zalgiris all his life and i guess it would never happen. remember zalgiris-olimpija after the match
ei cook, read again my post, i said that saras went to zalgiris, i just said that vytenis coud be a key to sign saras for european grands :cool: but is something like joke. do anyone knows, who means in lithunian Lietuvos Rytas?? Its something like Lithuanian Bricks. :) and "Lietuvos Rytas" is daily newspaper in lithuania, also a team :)
Yellow69
08-13-2007, 12:16 PM
Saras has declined Olympiakos offer,reports ''Lietuvos Rytas'' newspaper.
Any other news? Does he want to continue in the NBA or he wants to play for maccabi?
Any other news? Does he want to continue in the NBA or he wants to play for maccabi?
It says that Saras will stay in NBA
Straight forward
08-13-2007, 01:27 PM
Any other news? Does he want to continue in the NBA or he wants to play for maccabi?
another bullshit, imo. the thing is that Saras would like to stay in NBA for another season, but in different team (not in Worriors). But the point is that Saras can do nothing by him self. He only can wait for the moment when worriors will ex-change him. If this is true so we have to wait for the fresh news about his new club. otherwise, he's still waits and has no idea where he'll play next season. If there will be no ex-change from Worriors, i'm pretty sure Saras will come back in Europe cause there are few european teams ready to redeem Saras contract from Worriors.
Picek
08-13-2007, 01:44 PM
If there will be no ex-change from Worriors, i'm pretty sure Saras will come back in Europe cause there are few european teams ready to redeem Saras contract from Worriors.what ever he does I hope he'll do it soon..
'cause this is getting worse then Santa Barbara :rolleyes:
reignman
08-13-2007, 01:49 PM
that same site is now saying that Maccabi Tel Aviv is getting involved with Saras as well. They are quoting Moni Fanan saying that "not only Olimpiacos is interested in Saras." He also said that Barcelona is interested.
exactly what they were saying when macas was about to sign to Oly last year.
It says that Saras will stay in NBA
the natural reaction that i had after reading this was LAUGH real hard.
there is no team or spot for saras in the nba. live with it. trying to find the next arvydas sabonis is real hard. soz mate but saras future belongs to europe and it is red.
Saras wants to play in NBA,he always hints at it in his interviews and becomes reluctant when asked about possibility returning to Europe.Dream on Olympiakos fans
T.W.Is.M.
08-13-2007, 02:33 PM
exactly what they were saying when macas was about to sign to Oly last year.
the natural reaction that i had after reading this was LAUGH real hard.
there is no team or spot for saras in the nba. live with it. trying to find the next arvydas sabonis is real hard. soz mate but saras future belongs to europe and it is red.
actually I don't have anything 2 answer 2 what u wrote.I just wanted 2 say that I wanted 2 steal your avatar(I saw it in a greek forum) and use it here but u were faster and registered here!:D :D :D
KokkinosVasilias
08-13-2007, 06:46 PM
any news about Saras?
its been a while since the last time we heard something about him :D :p
Straight forward
08-13-2007, 07:03 PM
what ever he does I hope he'll do it soon..
'cause this is getting worse then Santa Barbara :rolleyes:
"Santa Baraba" wasn't so bad! :D
reignman
08-13-2007, 07:11 PM
Saras wants to play in NBA,he always hints at it in his interviews and becomes reluctant when asked about possibility returning to Europe.Dream on Olympiakos fans
ahahahahahaha
yeah sure! if he pays to play he might stay in the NBA. word.
although all the teams rosters are full... even cleveland gets troy hudson :(
i guess i'll keep dreaming ... until the time i'll be at the airport screaming his name :)
until then i remember Arvydas Macijauskas saying "my 1st priority is to stay in the NBA , i am looking for a team to go as a trade."
deja vu ?
Straight forward
08-13-2007, 07:51 PM
ahahahahahaha
yeah sure! if he pays to play he might stay in the NBA. word.
although all the teams rosters are full... even cleveland gets troy hudson :(
i guess i'll keep dreaming ... until the time i'll be at the airport screaming his name :)
until then i remember Arvydas Macijauskas saying "my 1st priority is to stay in the NBA , i am looking for a team to go as a trade."
deja vu ?
What a hell? why are you talking crap if there was at least 4 posts about Saras interview and what he said there? and change that outstretched avatar for god sake, this fake looks disgustingly! :p
KokkinosVasilias
08-13-2007, 07:58 PM
and change that outstretched avatar for god sake, this fake looks disgustingly! :p
why should he change it?
thats a picture from the near future :D
Straight forward
08-13-2007, 08:30 PM
why should he change it?
thats a picture from the near future :D
heh! actually i would like Saras playing for Oly. But that pic looks bad, believe me :)
Joško Poljak Fan
08-13-2007, 08:39 PM
i can't help myself completely agreeing with Picek... whatever will Šaras do, just make him do that quick
here you go:
created a new thread, hopefully it'll help people from not reading all those deja-vu messages on the signing and rumours thread.
KokkinosVasilias
08-13-2007, 08:41 PM
heh! actually i would like Saras playing for Oly. But that pic looks bad, believe me :)
wait untill October and you will see an original pic :D
rikhardur
08-13-2007, 08:56 PM
About time a thread dedicated to the Jasikevičius' Saga :p
And hey it's just Vol I :D
Straight forward
08-13-2007, 09:04 PM
wait untill October and you will see an original pic :D
he he! this on looks much better! :D :p
KokkinosVasilias
08-13-2007, 09:20 PM
he he! this on looks much better! :D :p
?! if you are reffering to my avatar, its not a fake photo!
KokkinosVasilias
08-13-2007, 09:21 PM
About time a thread dedicated to the Jasikevičius' Saga :p
And hey it's just Vol I :D
ΗΑΗAHAHAHA!!!
one of the best threads ever!!!!!!!! :D
Straight forward
08-13-2007, 09:23 PM
?! if you are reffering to my avatar, its not a fake photo!
no, i'm about "Pini, Saras, Macas" pic :)
KokkinosVasilias
08-13-2007, 09:27 PM
no, i'm about "Pini, Saras, Macas" pic :)
thats also not fake :p
Straight forward
08-13-2007, 09:36 PM
thats also not fake :p
I'll tell you what is not fake! Saras is playing for Lith NT and that's the thing that you should be concerned about in the first line since Greece thinking about GOLD in Eurobakset :D :p
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2157/large11869497820e4j9622ca3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-08-13
KokkinosVasilias
08-13-2007, 09:37 PM
are there any teams in the NBA that are really interested in Saras?
and if so why the heck havent got him already?!
KokkinosVasilias
08-13-2007, 09:40 PM
I'll tell you what is not fake! Saras is playing for Lith NT and that's the thing that you should be concerned about in the first line since Greece thinking about GOLD in Eurobakset :D :p
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2157/large11869497820e4j9622ca3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-08-13
let me inform you that i am a big fan of the Lithuanian style of bball :)
and i hope for a Greece-Lithuania final, and in matter of fact i would watch that game as a neutral fan of bball :)
Straight forward
08-13-2007, 09:50 PM
let me inform you that i am a big fan of the Lithuanian style of bball :)
and i hope for a Greece-Lithuania final, and in matter of fact i would watch that game as a neutral fan of bball :)
That would be perfect for me! I give my vote for Greece and Slovenia in Eurobasket after Lithuania, cause i like those teams and their fans. Not to much time to wait, specially for Acropolis Tournament :D :cool:
KokkinosVasilias
08-13-2007, 09:54 PM
That would be perfect for me! I give my vote for Greece and Slovenia in Eurobasket after Lithuania, cause i like those teams and their fans. Not to much time to wait, specially for Acropolis Tournament :D :cool:
by the way, i like your signature, perhaps i should use it also :D
KokkinosVasilias
08-14-2007, 08:21 AM
http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=97001
its only a matter of time until the Warriors release him and Oly signs him :D
reignman
08-14-2007, 12:07 PM
heh! actually i would like Saras playing for Oly. But that pic looks bad, believe me
beauty is in the eyes of the beholder..
Victorious
08-14-2007, 01:04 PM
Olympiakos very close to Saras. The reds offer a two year contract with 3.4 million € a year, which means that he'll be the best paid player in Europe.
link:
http://www.sport24.gr/html/ent/646/ent.191646.asp
reignman
08-14-2007, 03:34 PM
the currency is € not $ ;)
Moonspellheim
08-14-2007, 09:42 PM
Come on Saras.I can't wait to see him in the red jersey.
On the other hand,I can't even imagine what will happen if Saras turns us down...
fulcizombie
08-14-2007, 11:19 PM
Come on Saras.I can't wait to see him in the red jersey.
On the other hand,I can't even imagine what will happen if Saras turns us down...
You have the best avatar in this forum.
Moonspellheim
08-14-2007, 11:33 PM
Thanx a lot man!!!Although i was hoping that someone posted a new rumor about Saras!
P.S:H.R Giger together with Celtic Frost ;)
reignman
08-15-2007, 07:43 AM
its truly weird.... that olympiakos isnt interested in any other player.. not a single name has come up... except saras ofcourse.
i mean if saras is going to turn olympiakos down... at about late august. then olympiakos stays without a starting point guard.
so i guess they have already come to an agreement.
KokkinosVasilias
08-15-2007, 07:48 AM
its truly weird.... that olympiakos isnt interested in any other player.. not a single name has come up... except saras ofcourse.
i mean if saras is going to turn olympiakos down... at about late august. then olympiakos stays without a starting point guard.
so i guess they have already come to an agreement.
the problem its not if Saras will agree, 3.5 m Euros is a looot of money
but what will the Warriors do, i hope there is not chance they will decide to keep him after all
i hope OLY will get Saras in order to have some difficulties in the forthcoming Greek championship:D its getting boring every year:p
i am only joking stop attacking me:D
its nice first of all for european basketball to have a player with his calibre in europe and nice for Greek championship.I hope OLY to sign him
Afraid
08-15-2007, 08:46 AM
i hope OLY will get Saras in order to have some difficulties in the forthcoming Greek championship:D its getting boring every year:p
i am only joking stop attacking me:D
its nice first of all for european basketball to have a player with his calibre in europe and nice for Greek championship.I hope OLY to sign him
many pople here says they want to look at saras in red jerseys. and when you say its getting boring every year you said abt greece championship or euroleague. coz i just understand that you want saras in red, but playing near to what? Siskauskas or Macijauskas? :D :D :D
Moonspellheim
08-15-2007, 08:55 AM
There is no way for Saras to go to Cska.If he returns to Europe then his destination is Olympiacos for sure.
If he turns us down in late August,then we are going to have a problem(klafta dhladh!)
many pople here says they want to look at saras in red jerseys. and when you say its getting boring every year you said abt greece championship or euroleague. coz i just understand that you want saras in red, but playing near to what? Siskauskas or Macijauskas? :D :D :D
i dont care if he will play next to Siska or Mace because surely wont play next to DD.So i dont care which jersey he is going to wear.I just want euroleague to become stronger.Its better to play next to above players than not play at all...
When i said its getting boring i said it about Greek Chmpionship of course and to tease my fellows OLY friends and nothing more.:p
KokkinosVasilias
08-16-2007, 12:32 PM
http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=97240
"Spain is my favourite country, i know the people, i like the culture, the championship is very good, and who can tell the future, i may return here to play someday, why not?"
KokkinosVasilias
08-16-2007, 12:42 PM
When i said its getting boring i said it about Greek Chmpionship of course and to tease my fellows OLY friends and nothing more.:p
if Oly signs Saras then the Greek Championship and the Euroleague will get really boring :D
http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=97012
T.W.Is.M.
08-16-2007, 01:43 PM
http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=97240
"Spain is my favourite country, i know the people, i like the culture, the championship is very good, and who can tell the future, i may return here to play someday, why not?"
Looking inside my magic crystal sphere I c him saying 2 the greek journalists on Sunday:"Greece is a beautiful country, I have friends here, there r big teams in the greek league and it would b interesting 2 come and play here someday".:D
edit:Lithuania arrives at Athens airport on Sunday at 13:45...
Afraid
08-16-2007, 03:08 PM
Looking inside my magic crystal sphere I c him saying 2 the greek journalists on Sunday:"Greece is a beautiful country, I have friends here, there r big teams in the greek league and it would b interesting 2 come and play here someday".:D
edit:Lithuania arrives at Athens airport on Sunday at 13:45...
ofcourse saras lies for all of you, his favourite country is Lithuania, no doubts, but theres no team with clearly red jersreys since rytas playing in red/black/golden/white colors :D :D :D or Zalgiris should get red jerseys?:D :D :D
fulcizombie
08-17-2007, 06:24 AM
According to "Protathlitis" (which is something like the official Olympiakos newspaper) , Jaiskevicious has signed his "contract" with Olympiakos and Olympiakos may announce this signing even today!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:
http://62.1.2.102/newspapers/2007/8/17/PROTA8LHTHS_b.jpg
Here's a translation:
(big letters): The great player is "red"
Impressive development last night ,since the player send his pre-arrangement papers(that's one step before contract) signed and Oly might announced the signing even today.This agreement was made with the "blessings" of Warriors.
According to the newspaper "Protathlitis", who is perfectly informed in Olympiakos' moves, Sarunas Jasikevicius agreed with the reds and signed yesterday the offer sheet they sent him.
His signing will be announced till the end of the week.
KokkinosVasilias
08-17-2007, 08:25 AM
All you who don't believe that Saras will play for Oly this year,
raise your hands :D
Muzonasxxx
08-17-2007, 08:53 AM
According to the newspaper "Protathlitis", who is perfectly informed in Olympiakos' moves, Sarunas Jasikevicius agreed with the reds and signed yesterday the offer sheet they sent him.
His signing will be announced till the end of the week.
how he can sign ,if he had a contract with GS Warriors?
fulcizombie
08-17-2007, 09:09 AM
how he can sign ,if he had a contract with GS Warriors?
Apparently the Warriors were aware of his negotiations with Oly and gave him the green light.More details will possibly surface in a few hours.
KokkinosVasilias
08-17-2007, 09:14 AM
Saras won't come back to Europe in the up-comming season.
Stop dreaming about something that won't happen...
Anyone else who also believes that? :D
rayo1985
08-17-2007, 11:42 AM
Thats not all what he can do ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkw9gekFF-g&mode=related&search=
cheezdoodle
08-17-2007, 03:13 PM
I spoke to a close to Saras today who told me that Olimpi indeed sent a contract but that the player is only thinking about the NBA right now. This is nowhere near being finished, despite what the papers in Greece might say.
T.W.Is.M.
08-17-2007, 03:23 PM
http://www.betsmart.gr/mainsite/modules/news/article.php?storyid=57105
"Olympiacos BC denied the existance of a pre-arrangement with Sarunas Jasikevicius by saying:"there is interest if the player leaves the NBA".However, everything shows that the Lithuanian superstar is rehearsing the red jersey.He confessed something like this himself in Spain where he is now with the Lithuanian NT.
Saras, while talking 2 his "circle" in Spain, revealed that he will b a player of Olympiacos unless something unexpected happens.He added 2 this, that only if a good last minute offer from the NBA comes(e.g.Miami Heat whose primary target is Mike Bibby), the transfer will not go through.Until his contract with the Warriors is terminated, everybody r watching their moves..."
Anyone else who also believes that? :D
:D :D :D
lets wait untill the move complete
but as we all know where is smoke there is a fire
i would like to see Kokkinosvasilias and other OLY friends reactions against Maccabi friends if Saras return to Europe for OLY:)
KokkinosVasilias
08-17-2007, 05:36 PM
i would like to see Kokkinosvasilias and other OLY friends reactions against Maccabi friends if Saras return to Europe for OLY:)
No reactions at least from my side,
but I would like to see Maccabi fans reactions :D
No reactions at least from my side,
but I would like to see Maccabi fans reactions :D
:D :D :D
yes but you saw at least PAO reactions..if you read today Prasini sport newspaper:D
KokkinosVasilias
08-17-2007, 06:02 PM
Prasini
heineken? :D
the only explanation for these comments is that they are drunk, they should quit drinking beer
heineken? :D
the only explanation for these comments is that they are drunk, they should quit drinking beer
:D :D :D will see will see
KokkinosVasilias
08-17-2007, 06:12 PM
:D :D :D will see will see
come on,
even if Oly signs his brother and his entire family to gather "500 Jasikevicius" as they (at Prasini) said there will be problems with the rules,
you cant have so many players in the roster :D
come on,
even if Oly signs his brother and his entire family to gather "500 Jasikevicius" as they (at Prasini) said there will be problems with the rules,
you cant have so many players in the roster :D
now that you are menthioned it, i hadnt think about it.Indeed their will be a problem :D with the rules.I think Prasini along with the other strange newspaper in red :rolleyes: must be drinking a lot of beers.
KokkinosVasilias
08-17-2007, 06:22 PM
now that you are menthioned it, i hadnt think about it.Indeed their will be a problem :D with the rules.I think Prasini along with the other strange newspaper in red :rolleyes: must be drinking a lot of beers.
if you want i will try to find an Oly season ticket for you, but i cant promise anything :p
if you want i will try to find an Oly season ticket for you, but i cant promise anything :p
thnks man but i want to see the champions and to joy this season like last year:D
mavs128
08-17-2007, 07:27 PM
Apparently the Warriors were aware of his negotiations with Oly and gave him the green light.More details will possibly surface in a few hours.
simply not possible. He's under contract with the warriors, he cannot agree to any contract with any team until he's released from that contract.
T.W.Is.M.
08-17-2007, 10:31 PM
simply not possible. He's under contract with the warriors, he cannot agree to any contract with any team until he's released from that contract.
Correct.And I think there is a penalty if an agreement happens before the player's release.Remember Macijauskas' words last year before his release:he said he might return 2 europe, Olympiacos is a good team and they may b interested if he were FA etc...
The only way 4 Saras and Olympiacos 2 have an agreement(if there is one) is a verbal one.
adebisi
08-18-2007, 07:30 AM
Maurizio Balducci denied Jasikevičius' pre-agreement with Oly to Respublika daily. ;)
KokkinosVasilias
08-18-2007, 11:30 AM
http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=97490
a translation of the last paragraph
"the story behind Saras becoming an Oly player is creepy!
i wont write it here, because i expect that Oly president will make it known even though that could create him a problem at the team!"
according to this reporter Oly president signed Saras with no proper ways...
he reveals that he heard that but he doesnt say what is the story...
i guess he's telling some bull$hit just to sell his article and claim that he knows many things that arent revealed
does anyone (greek fellow) knows his e-mail or how i could communicate with him?
T.W.Is.M.
08-18-2007, 12:03 PM
http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=97490
a translation of the last paragraph
"the story behind Saras becoming an Oly player is creepy!
i wont write it here, because i expect that Oly president will make it known even though that could create him a problem at the team!"
according to this reporter Oly president signed Saras with no proper ways...
he reveals that he heard that but he doesnt say what is the story...
i guess he's telling some bull$hit just to sell his article and claim that he knows many things that arent revealed
does anyone (greek fellow) knows his e-mail or how i could communicate with him?
This reporter often has radio shows in SuperSport FM where the listeners can send SMS with questions.Maybe u could send one asking him 2 tell u what he meant off-air...
fulcizombie
08-18-2007, 01:24 PM
http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=97490
a translation of the last paragraph
"the story behind Saras becoming an Oly player is creepy!
i wont write it here, because i expect that Oly president will make it known even though that could create him a problem at the team!"
according to this reporter Oly president signed Saras with no proper ways...
he reveals that he heard that but he doesnt say what is the story...
i guess he's telling some bull$hit just to sell his article and claim that he knows many things that arent revealed
does anyone (greek fellow) knows his e-mail or how i could communicate with him?
I don't think that this is what this piece means.I think it refers to yesterday's protathlitis' first page and it implies that people from Oly (the president Kokkalis) are trying to stop this signing from happening.That's why the the <<red>> appears inside <<>>.
KokkinosVasilias
08-18-2007, 01:36 PM
I don't think that this is what this piece means.I think it refers to yesterday's protathlitis' first page and it implies that people from Oly (the president Kokkalis) are trying to stop this signing from happening.That's why the the <<red>> appears inside <<>>.
you think that Kokkalis is trying to stop this signing?!
λες να ειναι τοσο πουστης?!?! γιατι να το κανει? για να μην παρουν τη δοξα οι Αγγελοπουλοι?
fulcizombie
08-18-2007, 01:54 PM
you think that Kokkalis is trying to stop this signing?!
λες να ειναι τοσο πουστης?!?! γιατι να το κανει? για να μην παρουν τη δοξα οι Αγγελοπουλοι?
Exactly!!:mad:
That piece seems to imply that protathlitis' first page was provocative and an attempt to actually stop the signing from happening.
T.W.Is.M.
08-18-2007, 02:07 PM
Any Olympiacos fan with at least an average IQ understands what Aggelopoulos bros r doing 4 the bball team and how much they r trying 2 help, what is the role of Kokkalis in the bball team(simply decorative) and what Kokkalis isn't doing 4 the department 4 which he is responsible.Even if Saras doesn't come, I think we all know that Aggelopoulos bros did their best 2 bring him.
@fulcizombie:I think that the word red was in quotation 4 the obvious reason:every player of Olympiacos is "red"(with the quotation), that's how journalists write it all the time.
fulcizombie
08-18-2007, 02:10 PM
Any Olympiacos fan with at least an average IQ understands what Aggelopoulos bros r doing 4 the bball team and how much they r trying 2 help, what is the role of Kokkalis in the bball team(simply decorative) and what Kokkalis isn't doing 4 the department 4 which he is responsible.Even if Saras doesn't come, I think we all know that Aggelopoulos bros did their best 2 bring him.
@fulcizombie:I think that the word red was in quotation 4 the obvious reason:every player of Olympiacos is "red"(with the quotation), that's how journalists write it all the time.
I think it implies that the player is not red yet.This is obvious, to me at least, from the entire piece.
T.W.Is.M.
08-18-2007, 02:11 PM
I don't think that this is what this piece means.I think it refers to yesterday's protathlitis' first page and it implies that people from Oly (the president Kokkalis) are trying to stop this signing from happening.That's why the the <<red>> appears inside <<>>.
The Israeli article that came out last week said that Kokkalis had taken over this issue personally and that he would bring the player 2 Piraeus.Considering that the person who wrote it is a friend of Gershon, so if he had any source, that would b an insider,do u think that Kokkalis tried 2 claim glory 4 the transfer and when he saw he couldn't, he tried 2 prevent it?
T.W.Is.M.
08-18-2007, 02:14 PM
I think it implies that the player is not red yet.This is obvious, to me at least, from the entire piece.
Maybe it's that too.Anyway, the player can't b "red" because he has a contract with the Golden State Warriors.Until that is terminated, he couldn't b member of any team, not even with a pre-arrangement.
KokkinosVasilias
08-18-2007, 02:21 PM
Maybe it's that too.Anyway, the player can't b "red" because he has a contract with the Golden State Warriors.Until that is terminated, he couldn't b member of any team, not even with a pre-arrangement.
Εxactly, but Protatlitis (who owns that newspaper?) said that Saras has agreed already although thats not possible...
english please... thx, Matiz
The Israeli article that came out last week said that Kokkalis had taken over this issue personally and that he would bring the player 2 Piraeus.Considering that the person who wrote it is a friend of Gershon, so if he had any source, that would b an insider,do u think that Kokkalis tried 2 claim glory 4 the transfer and when he saw he couldn't, he tried 2 prevent it?
i like this kind of scenario.its like a movie..:D
jaka13
08-18-2007, 04:56 PM
Εxactly, but Protatlitis (who owns that newspaper?) said that Saras has agreed already although thats not possible...
δεν θελει να του παρουν τη δοξα οι Αγγελοπουλοι
themos!!
Straight forward
08-19-2007, 01:09 PM
So it's seems Jasikevicius still waiting, as he said in interview for Lietuvos Rytas one week before. I don't realy understand the situation with Worriors, that club sucks as fu...! They dont want Saras but they dont exchange him and they're not cutting his contract. So, everything depends from those NBA bastards...
T.W.Is.M.
08-19-2007, 01:19 PM
So it's seems Jasikevicius still waiting, as he said in interview for Lietuvos Rytas one week before. I don't realy understand the situation with Worriors, that club sucks as fu...! They dont want Saras but they dont exchange him and they're not cutting his contract. So, everything depends from those NBA bastards...
I think it's a matter of buyout negotiations.Saras wants the maximum possible, the Warriors r trying 2 reduce that because it counts in the salary cap.The Warriors have another advantage, that the european teams want 2 finish their rosters earlier than the american ones,so the player is the one under time pressure(plus there is the EC and Jasikevicius would like 2 have signed before it starts).We just have 2 b patient.
Saras today at the Lithuanian NT arrival in Athens said nothing more than "I'm still a Warriors' player" and when asked where will he play next season, he said:"I don't know, we will c".Sounds like the same things Macas was saying last year:)
Marius123
08-19-2007, 05:22 PM
if Oly signs Saras then the Greek Championship and the Euroleague will get really boring :D
IMO, on the contrary - it'll just get really much more interesting.
So it's seems Jasikevicius still waiting, as he said in interview for Lietuvos Rytas one week before. I don't realy understand the situation with Worriors, that club sucks as fu...! They dont want Saras but they dont exchange him and they're not cutting his contract. So, everything depends from those NBA bastards...
it reminds me the case of Spanoulis..
by the way i liked Jaci image in the airport when he through away the OLY scarf that a red fan offered him:D he must be a PAO fan from his youth like SISKA being CSKA fan from his birth...:p
Straight forward
08-19-2007, 05:58 PM
it reminds me the case of Spanoulis..
by the way i liked Jaci image in the airport when he through away the OLY scarf that a red fan offered him:D he must be a PAO fan from his youth like SISKA being CSKA fan from his birth...:p
maby there are some pics or someth? :)
reignman
08-19-2007, 06:25 PM
ofcourse not. its just HIS imagination and the newspapers. not a single picture of him throwing it down. just taking it off. (i dont see it weird. since he is a player of the Warriors now.. and accepting to wear that oly scard could be "fatal" mistake)
http://www.sport24.gr/ast/cov/A1/A1_OSFP_SARAS_KASKOL_b.jpg
Z.A.L.I.A.
08-19-2007, 06:26 PM
by the way i liked Jaci image in the airport when he through away the OLY scarf that a red fan offered him:D
It's really impolite :( It seems that our "star" due to that fame became really shitty (as a person)
Straight forward
08-19-2007, 06:29 PM
ofcourse not. its just HIS imagination and the newspapers. not a single picture of him throwing it down. just taking it off. (i dont see it weird. since he is a player of the Warriors now.. and accepting to wear that oly scard could be "fatal" mistake)
http://www.sport24.gr/ast/cov/A1/A1_OSFP_SARAS_KASKOL_b.jpg
he! Oly fans are crazy :D maby there's some video, was it somthing like welcome of Macijauskas?
Straight forward
08-19-2007, 06:31 PM
It's really impolite :( It seems that our "star" due to that fame became really shitty (as a person)
a come on! :p
he! Oly fans are crazy :D maby there's some video, was it somthing like welcome of Macijauskas?
there indeed crazy.they celebrate players that are not belonging in their team:D
reignman
08-19-2007, 07:31 PM
he! Oly fans are crazy :D maby there's some video, was it somthing like welcome of Macijauskas?
No... not at all.. they were about 10 people there...
people wouldnt go there unless he signs with the team.
i ignore the green faced comments ;) :rolleyes:
T.W.Is.M.
08-19-2007, 09:16 PM
there indeed crazy.they celebrate players that are not belonging in their team:D
my friend, that's why we r the best fans in europe!we celebrate with other players too and we admire great players even when they don't play 4 our team:p
damn, I didn't know that there would b only 10 people,if I knew better I might have taken the small Lithuanian flag that I have in my room and go 2 the airport 2 welcome him:p :p
EverGreen
08-20-2007, 04:54 PM
I hope Oly can sign him. It will give me even greater satisfaction beating Oly with him in their ranks. He's the type of opponent which gives Diamantidis the rise for special moments. :D
guyOFK
08-20-2007, 05:50 PM
I hope Oly can sign him. It will give me even greater satisfaction beating Oly with him in their ranks. He's the type of opponent which gives Diamantidis the rise for special moments. :D
If I were u I won't be so happy to meet Sarunas. In each game he played vs PAO he was GREAT!!!! KIcking ass to diamantidis and others...
and for a remiander:
2003/2004:
1th game : 13pts 9 ass
2nd game : 30pts 4 ass
2004/2005:
semi finals: 13pts 8 ass
Ho! and the best thing is that the opponent won and thats the most important!
So.. hamm I dont know what exactly are u happy about... I call this kind of act "arrogance". And arrogance will leade u and dear diamantidis no where.
reignman
08-20-2007, 08:15 PM
the team mates were better because of sarunas. NOT sarunas because of them.
if it was like you said.. then why the next season , when sarunas left MTA , MTA lost in the final? and the year after didnt even get to the final 4? :/
FRANKY 13
08-20-2007, 08:26 PM
If I were u I won't be so happy to meet Sarunas. In each game he played vs PAO he was GREAT!!!! KIcking ass to diamantidis and others...
and for a remiander:
2003/2004:
1th game : 13pts 9 ass
2nd game : 30pts 4 ass
2004/2005:
semi finals: 13pts 8 ass
Ho! and the best thing is that the opponent won and thats the most important!
So.. hamm I dont know what exactly are u happy about... I call this kind of act "arrogance". And arrogance will leade u and dear diamantidis no where.
yeah, well what you cautiously neglected to mention is that the only game sarunas played against diamantidis was the semifinal in 2005.
there were he had 13 points and 8 assists but he objectivly performed an average game with a ranking of 15 while diamantidis with 16 pts, 6 rbs, 5 assists , 3 steals , 1 block and a ranking of 25 clearly dominated the matchup.
the only reason diamantidis lost was because of the teammates he had, and clearl not because sarunas kicked his ass:rolleyes:
reignman
08-20-2007, 08:38 PM
didnt just now sarunas kicked the asses of DD and V-$P@N ? :rolleyes:
Joško Poljak Fan
08-20-2007, 08:46 PM
didnt just now sarunas kicked the asses of DD and V-$P@N ? :rolleyes:
:cool:
cause he scored 14, DD scored just 10 and Spanoulis 9? lmao
Spanoulis sucked, DD was decent, but Šaras was far from good as well, so I think the only one that'll kick a$$ today are Butautas and Giannakis :rolleyes:
reignman
08-20-2007, 09:16 PM
.... the only thing i didnt want to comment was his scoring ability tonight. but his passing and the way he was chaning lithuanias game while he was on court. he is a master mind.
day after day he is going to be better and better. thats it.
ok chevro matiz? :P
Joško Poljak Fan
08-20-2007, 09:44 PM
ok chevro matiz? :P
well, I think you've missed some overeacted passes, missed some (for Šaras I use to know) undecisiveness about where to go with the ball and honestly he didn't seem that certain with the ball when Diama sticked onto him... so I guess we've seen some different stuff. 4 wide opened 3 pointers are nothing impressive to me. Well, good job by nailing them, but Tomić could do that as well, and I expect more from Šaras than I did from Tomić. No diss on Šaras he did have some nice passes, overeacted with a lot of them as well, had an overall good game, but still far from what he can do. saying he kicked someones arse today is a bit strange, concerning we were watching the same bball game.
If we say that, than I guess it's also possible to claim everybody were kicking everybodies arses, with the exception of Gustas that rightfully sat on bench for most of the time so others didn't have the time to kick his a$$ as often, and he should be declared MVP accordingly.
reignman
08-20-2007, 09:51 PM
but still far from what he can do
ditto .
with the exception of Gustas that rightfully sat on bench for most of the time
can you tell me why he picked gustas over kalnietis ?
also why he didnt use jasaitis at all?
goga78
08-20-2007, 10:38 PM
yeah, well what you cautiously neglected to mention is that the only game sarunas played against diamantidis was the semifinal in 2005.
there were he had 13 points and 8 assists but he objectivly performed an average game with a ranking of 15 while diamantidis with 16 pts, 6 rbs, 5 assists , 3 steals , 1 block and a ranking of 25 clearly dominated the matchup.
the only reason diamantidis lost was because of the teammates he had, and clearl not because sarunas kicked his ass:rolleyes:
Diamantidis was playing against Parker in that game. Jasikevicius and him were not directly matched up. Besides, Sarunas was guiding his team perfectly and thus became the MVP of the tournament. Other players put up the scoring on the table.
FRANKY 13
08-20-2007, 11:49 PM
Diamantidis was playing against Parker in that game. Jasikevicius and him were not directly matched up. Besides, Sarunas was guiding his team perfectly and thus became the MVP of the tournament. Other players put up the scoring on the table.
well of course they werent directly matched up, since if saras was guarding diamantidis, diamantidis would have finished the game with 30 points.
:rolleyes:
reignman
08-21-2007, 12:01 AM
@franki13 not.
Further complicating matters is the fact that Sarunas Jasikevicius has already been signed in Greece 14 times over if you’re to believe the local media there. His representatives insisted to us that “he [Sarunas] is just thinking about the NBA right now,” but they obviously wouldn’t want to hurt their stance at the negotiation table in regards to his buyout from Golden State (they still owe him 4 million dollars), if they didn’t really need to. What we do know is that Olimpiacos passed on the opportunity to sign Dee Brown for a cool million dollars because of the belief that they will land “Saras” later on in the summer.
Hoopshype.com-draft express.com
snowman30
08-21-2007, 04:55 AM
Saras medium performance is diamantidis best.
the team mates were better because of sarunas. NOT sarunas because of them.
if it was like you said.. then why the next season , when sarunas left MTA , MTA lost in the final? and the year after didnt even get to the final 4? :/
yes but the reach the final man..this isnt great?
the year after they didnt go to F4 cause of the departure of Parker especially and Baston.IMO Parker was the best and more signifivant player of the team.He change everything.His departure drop MTA one level down.
its interesting how some OLY friends call future "probably" signings of them ,great stars and players even if they have bad or mediocre night while some others players of them when they are leaving their team (with numbers...) becoming from best to the worst of europe :D
Xm by the way i dont remember them of telling the same some months ago..
Straight forward
08-21-2007, 11:03 AM
But, imho, backing to all those debates about Jasikevicius and Papaloukas, the myth that Papaloukas at the moment is way better than Saras is blasted! :p offcourse, it's only one game and both players had mediocre game, but Saras showed that he's still good in all preparation games. Papaloukas isnt better PG, specially speacking about assists.
But, imho, backing to all those debates about Jasikevicius and Papaloukas, the myth that Papaloukas at the moment is way better than Saras is blasted! :p offcourse, it's only one game and both players had mediocre game, but Saras showed that he's still good in all preparation games. Papaloukas isnt better PG, specially speacking about assists.
PAP is better PG than Jaci and that because him along with DD have taken all or almost all personal awards and team medals and honors from NBA and Europe stars and coaches that are in europe the last 3 years at least.While JACI and many Lith friends stay in the image of him when was playing in MTA.
With no offence since i think of you as a good poster you (LITHS) dont based your opinion in facts but in history or predictions.
I never said that PAP is so much better than JACI but is better untill JACI proves me wrong.
THE EC IS LITHS change to prove it along as JACI.and be sure i will be here to give you congratulations and admit it.
I like Lith fans cause the have passion in their speech and love so much their teams like Greek fans.But sometimes you are overreacted (as we are-Greeks) and there is the danger of being blind is some things that not explanations and many conversations to the subject is needed.
Roy M
08-21-2007, 09:30 PM
It will be difficult to translate this:
http://www.sport5.co.il/Articles/Article.403.24375.html
but the main idea is that Saras gave a spacial interview to 102FM ("Radio Tel-Aviv") that will broadcast today (Thursday, 18:00 here, 17:00 Europe, 15:00GMT).
He said clearly that he wants to play only in the NBA and he'll find it nice to play in Boston.
"All the reports from Greece and Israel are nonsense, bullshit. I want to play only in the NBA, and as long as he belong to Golden-State, I will be in the first train of the team in October. I spoke with Gershon, but nothing about joing his team. I have at least 10 teams that want me in the NBA, but yet I got a trade, couse of the team refusal."
Straight forward
08-21-2007, 09:52 PM
It will be difficult to translate this:
http://www.sport5.co.il/Articles/Article.403.24375.html
but the main idea is that Saras gave a spacial interview to 102FM ("Radio Tel-Aviv") that will broadcast today (Thursday, 18:00 here, 17:00 Europe, 15:00GMT).
He said clearly that he wants to play only in the NBA and he'll find it nice to play in Boston.
"All the reports from Greece and Israel are nonsense, bullshit. I want to play only in the NBA, and as long as he belong to Golden-State, I will be in the first train of the team in October. I spoke with Gershon, but nothing about joing his team. I have at least 10 teams that want me in the NBA, but yet I got a trade, couse of the team refusal."
the main idea is the same as we wrote two weeks ago. but it seems some guys dont want to hear us :) he said that he wont even think about europe till he belongs to worriors...
Roy M
08-21-2007, 09:57 PM
the main idea is the same as we wrote two weeks ago. but it seems some guys dont want to hear us :) he said that he wont even think about europe till he belongs to worriors...
That's the problem... Some guys here insist that Saras is an Oly' player allready....
V@Roxe##13
08-21-2007, 10:01 PM
Saras medium performance is diamantidis best.
Yes,if you speak just for offence,then maybe you are right.But BB is not only offence!
As for Papa,i will tell it for last team. Don't say things aboout him,when you have watched only friendlies. It is time for you to learn that he plays better as the things get more difficult.
reignman
08-21-2007, 11:21 PM
It will be difficult to translate this:
http://www.sport5.co.il/Articles/Article.403.24375.html
but the main idea is that Saras gave a spacial interview to 102FM ("Radio Tel-Aviv") that will broadcast today (Thursday, 18:00 here, 17:00 Europe, 15:00GMT).
He said clearly that he wants to play only in the NBA and he'll find it nice to play in Boston.
"All the reports from Greece and Israel are nonsense, bullshit. I want to play only in the NBA, and as long as he belong to Golden-State, I will be in the first train of the team in October. I spoke with Gershon, but nothing about joing his team. I have at least 10 teams that want me in the NBA, but yet I got a trade, couse of the team refusal."
the only bad think is that he is stubborn .. if he likes playing 10minutes per game and get 400.000$ per season then he can be my guest ^^
Andros
08-22-2007, 08:31 AM
I was on holiday and today I read what you guys believe.
I wrote from June that Saras will join Olympiakos and he will.
Saras activated his last year with GSW knowing that the team does not want him and they will waive him in order to get a compesetion.
What Saras told papers last night is correct because papers wrote for so many days that he has agreed with Oly and GSW now do not give him the compesetion he was expecting to get.
(If he said I have agreed with Oly is a direct violation of NBA rules and he would be in serious
trouble)
So he says I stay I do not know Oly to get his $$$ and then sign with Oly it is so simple as that.
At the end Saras want to leave and GSW does not want him so it will happen
just keep patient.
And if you tell me regarding Pargo yes Oly offered but his managers very good relations with Oly and this way he got some more $$$ from NOH.
Oly signed two US (Woods/Roberts) a month ago because Saras will come so simple.
The possibilities that Saras would come to OLY are big.look the facts:
1.strangelly OLY signs 2 american players which one of them (WOODS) signed 2 years contract.The strange is not the duration of the contract but the thing that they want him only for Euroleague as they said...Ofcourse its unlogical this action.Why a team and a good player signs such a contract when he is so young and in fact he is in his best age for basketball?Does he want to play only 26 games per season?
2.official OLY wants crazy JACI and are offering enormus cash.So much money noone can resist.Especially if the player definetely wont take even the 2/3 of them.But ofcourse he can be a man which wants to complete his dream and not make a fortune..
3.the most significant for me reason.noone has thought that 1 month now OLY doesnt make ANY move for a backup PG if the case of JACI falls.Does this action means that they are not organised?Does this mean that they are sure for him?Does this means that JACI awaits his release to complete his move to OLY as MACE did last year?I mean even in Pargo case there was one more player as backup solution but now nothing...just put your brains to work..afterall JACI is forbitten to agree with a team right now.He is in danger of being banned or something else.
I am not saying he will be playing for OLY.As a matter of fact i dont care.But whenever you see smoke there is a fire...So many "lucky" events are not so innocent.
As i told i would like to see OLY and Maccabi friends when JACI signs a contract with his next team:D
Straight forward
08-22-2007, 10:37 AM
Sure Saras will choose Oly if he'll be back in Europe. But, as i understand, if Worriors will exchange him to Boston (let say) what is still possible then forgwt Jasikevicius for one year at least.
by the way, there was some talkee-talkee in Lith media that Saras asked Javtokas and Siska about the life in Greece. So there's no doubt he's thinking about all variation and understands that Europe is the most realistic direction. I'm surprised why is he trying to prove something in NBA while it's obviously that NBA barely needs the guy who's strength is "playing for the team" or "team play" (how the hell i should call the basketball which is played in Europe exactly?) and he's a bit to weak physically for NBA defence. He's still dreaming that there is such team in NBA...
rchos7
08-22-2007, 11:17 AM
i saw saras last night in a bar restaurant in athens.he was together with jasaitis,songaila and kleiza and they were drinking lots of beer(hen i say lot i mean lot)!they were there till really late at night.a friend of me went to their table and told him that as an oly fan he is really excited with the idea of him wearing the red jersey.he just replied thank you very much.nothing more nothing less.
in a greek newspaper yesterday a journalist wrote that he heard saras talking with a raptors manager (don't remember his name now) saying him that he is trying to find a way to leave warriors and coming back to europe.
Straight forward
08-22-2007, 11:29 AM
i saw saras last night in a bar restaurant in athens.he was together with jasaitis,songaila and kleiza and they were drinking lots of beer(hen i say lot i mean lot)!they were there till really late at night.a friend of me went to their table and told him that as an oly fan he is really excited with the idea of him wearing the red jersey.he just replied thank you very much.nothing more nothing less.
in a greek newspaper yesterday a journalist wrote that he heard saras talking with a raptors manager (don't remember his name now) saying him that he is trying to find a way to leave warriors and coming back to europe.
well, Jasaitis is the monster of parties :) i didnt know that Kleiza drinks! Jasikevicius simply useing the advantage that his wife is far away :D and Songaila has good body for drinking beer :rolleyes:
KokkinosVasilias
08-22-2007, 11:56 AM
That's the problem... Some guys here insist that Saras is an Oly' player allready....
WΗΑΤ?!?!?!?! now you are telling me that?!?!
why the heck i bought that season ticket from that guy who told me he had season tickets but they are expensive because Oly signed Saras!!
damn i shouldnt move around drunk and having money on me :D
well, Jasaitis is the monster of parties :) i didnt know that Kleiza drinks! Jasikevicius simply useing the advantage that his wife is far away :D and Songaila has good body for drinking beer :rolleyes:
kleiza is a pretty heavy drinker when he does so... my friend saw him totally wasted in klaipeda night club the very first day of nt camp in klaipeda
T.W.Is.M.
08-22-2007, 02:04 PM
Sine we r back in the discussion "Saras will/will not come" I'd like 2 list a few facts trying not 2 judge or jump 2 conclusion.Sorry if some of them have been already mentioned.It's just an attempt 2 summarize things.
Saras is a target of Olympiacos, it has been confirmed by every source.Rumor has it that he was the team's primary target since June.
Saras' priority is 2 stay in the NBA, but not in the Warriors.He wants 2 b in a team where he will play.
If an agreement between an NBA player and a team is revealed and proven before the player is a free agent, the player is severely punished.
Olympiacos wasn't the only european team interested, they r the only one left though.They r the only team that seems 2 wait 4 him as long as possible.
If Olympiacos doesn't sign Jasikevicius, they will acquire an American PG.
Olympiacos has signed 2 Americans(max allowed in Greece), the second one(the one that signed later) with a 2 year contract.In the announcement of the deal there was no mentioning that he will play only in the EL, as the greek media was reporting back then.
Since the story about Jasikevicius being "close" 2 Piraeus came out, there hasn't been printed a single new name as a potential target of Oly.
If Oly signs an American PG, Qyntel Woods doesn't play in the greek league and the team has 5 foreigners in the league(limit is 6).However, this summer Andrija Zizic was released because there was no foreign spot 4 him and signed 2 PAO!
The Warriors don't want Jasikevicius and his $4M contract in their roster.
Any team that gets him via trade has 2 pay him $4M this season, which will count in the salary cap.
Saras said he wants 2 play 4 the Celtics.However, the latest rumors from Boston don't include him in the team's targets.The Celtics have 3 PGs, Rajon Rondo(starter), Eddie House and rookie Gabe Pruitt.
No other team than the Celtics has been heard of being interested any more.Teams like Miami and Cleveland who have been rumored as possible destinations have salaries over or close 2 the luxury tax limit.
If Saras is released, the Warriors will include in their salaries only his buyout instead of his $4M contract.They r about $4M under the luxury tax threshold, so any amount that will b saved by a possible release can b used.The team wants 2 keep free agent Mickael Pietrus who already has a qualifying offer of $3,47M.By releasing Jasikevicius(or any other unwanted player) they can sign Pietrus 4 more than $4M(a salary that he can find in another team)without paying a luxury tax.
Boston is already over the luxury tax threshold.That means, 4 any player they sign from now on, they have 2 pay the league an amount equal 2 his wage as luxury tax.They also want 2 sign Reggie Miller, whose salary will b paid twice as explained above.
Sorry 4 being tiring(if anyone managed 2 read my whole essay:D ), the conclusions r yours...
adebisi
08-22-2007, 02:16 PM
kleiza is a pretty heavy drinker when he does so... my friend saw him totally wasted in klaipeda night club the very first day of nt camp in klaipeda
Yeah :) I saw him totaly drunk with his one of the best friends - Mindaugas Katelynas in Pramogų Bankas, Vilnius :D
Also, I am working at the Le Meridien in Vilnius, in which Lith NT was living. After victory vs Russia most of the players were celebrating and drinking quite a lot :rolleyes: as far as i understood - alcohol is not a tabu in this NT :D
Hepcat
08-22-2007, 02:37 PM
alcohol is not a tabu in this NT....
I wish it were. Alcohol is invariably detrimental to both short-term playing skills and career longevity.
:(
KokkinosVasilias
08-22-2007, 07:36 PM
http://www.superbasket.gr/?c=136&a=6056
http://www.superbasket.gr/tpllib/img.php?im=cat_136/6056.jpg&w=237&h=165
Oly's vice president was at the OAKA for the game Lith-Italy,
he arrived at the stadium after the Greece-Slovenia was over
T.W.Is.M.
08-22-2007, 08:52 PM
http://www.superbasket.gr/?c=136&a=6056
http://www.superbasket.gr/tpllib/img.php?im=cat_136/6056.jpg&w=237&h=165
Oly's vice president was at the OAKA for the game Lith-Italy,
he arrived at the stadium after the Greece-Slovenia was over
Saras is a player of the Warriors.Maybe Aggelopoulos wants 2 bring Gustas 2 Olympiacos!!!:D :D
reignman
08-22-2007, 09:38 PM
Gustas is a joke.
p.s
http://www.superbasket.gr/data/images/news/categories/cat_136/6055.jpg
T.W.Is.M.
08-28-2007, 08:57 PM
Pini Gershon said today at Olympiacos' first training session of the new season:
"If Saras doesn't come we have a ready solution and we r very close.We can wait 4 him until next year.If he doesn't come this season, he will definitely come next year".
Roy M
08-28-2007, 09:03 PM
Pini Gershon said today at Olympiacos' first training session of the new season:
"If Saras doesn't come we have a ready solution and we r very close.We can wait 4 him until next year.If he doesn't come this season, he will definitely come next year".
He can wait untill the dead end. Saras will be in Maccabi in 2008/9 season.
T.W.Is.M.
08-29-2007, 01:06 PM
He can wait untill the dead end. Saras will be in Maccabi in 2008/9 season.
And u still haven't answered my question about where will he play in 2007-08...it's the 3rd time I'm asking this...
Straight forward
08-29-2007, 01:57 PM
Macas and Saras...that wouldnt be easy season for Pini :D
fulcizombie
08-29-2007, 06:44 PM
He can wait untill the dead end. Saras will be in Maccabi in 2008/9 season.
...and then you woke up:D :D :D
Roy M
08-29-2007, 07:25 PM
And u still haven't answered my question about where will he play in 2007-08...it's the 3rd time I'm asking this...
I don't know, but not in Greece.
T.W.Is.M.
08-29-2007, 08:08 PM
I don't know, but not in Greece.
Thanks.But if u don't know, I wonder how u can b so sure.I mean, u don't even claim he will remain in the NBA!
Marius123
08-30-2007, 09:16 AM
An extensive interview with Šaras was published on 29 August 2007 (yesterday) in "Lietuvos Rytas" daily's annex "Krepšinis".
Nice read.
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Before a game, there are earphones plugged in the ears of Šarūnas Jasikevičius. He distances himself from outside sounds, from speech of the others and thinks of the upcoming game while listening to music. Recently, it's been Spanish music.
"Mana ... Juanas ... Estopa ... " - he mentions his favourite performers. When playing for "Barcelona", Šaras got to know Spain very well - the country, where the Eurobasket-2007 starts on Monday.
That was the country where he made his debut in the Lithuanian national team - exactly 10 years ago, being 21 years of age. From that team, which took the 6th place in 1997, he is the only survivor in the current roster.
Šaras, what associations does Spain evoke for you?
The years spent in Spain. I felt like home there. I know the country and its culture really well, speak the language, have many friends. Lithuania is my most beloved country, my motherland where I was born and grew up, while Spain is the favourite of all the other places.
Your favourite Spanish drink?
Depends on the situation - whether it's holiday or work time (smiles).
Dish?
Sea food.
Distraction?
Restaraunt with friends and a discotheque.
City?
Barcelona.
Person?
I have many friends in Spain. Very goods friends, for whom I long. I have very good relations with the Spanish NT - I've played against many of their guys and know them well. Overall, Barcelona is full of my friends.
Which one Spanish phrase must our fans know, when going to Spain?
Una cerveza (one beer).
In an advertisement of our NT sponsors, you act as a toreador in one scene. Do you like the corrida?
No. I think it's cruel. I'm appalled by anything which is directed against animals - their torturing, killing. Bullfight is a very nasty part of the Spanish culture.
Have you been there?
Yes. Both in traditional corrida, and in one where young toreadors learn by fighting smaller bulls. I like going to places where there are lots of people, good mood. But the idea itself - torture an animal, then slay it - is cruel. I am against it.
Together with Žydrūnas Ilgauskas, you have taken part in running from the bulls in the streets of Pamplona. Did you like it?
It was the week prior to Ilgauskas' wedding, when male friends make all kinds of fun. We ran right at the spearhead of the crowd to keep away from the bulls. I reached the stadium among the first - that means my pants were the most full ... (laughs) ... I can tell it really openly. Indeed, those bulls look impressive when they're close.
Do you like Mallorca? (Lithuania's games in the group stage will be played there)
I have a flat in Mallorca. Bought it as investment. I was there only once, when the construction works were going on. It's been equiped long ago, but I haven't seen that.
That will be a chance to get a look?
My parents will live there during the championship.
When the championship draw was made, did you wish to get into the "Mallorca group" ?
When the draw was made, I didn't know if I'd play for the NT. I didn't watch the draw. I was told only later that Lithuania will play in Mallorca. But it's OK for me to play in any place in Spain.
Your last time in the NT was in 2004, now you come back. How were the years in between?
For my career, those years were bad. Two NBA seasons passed, things didn't work out well. I got into teams where I wasn't used to my strenghts. No one really tried to do that. It was more important to give some 7-8 players minutes before me. Those years were bleak.
Did you long for things which you found in the NT?
Now, the NT is a bit different. All those guys, with whom I came to the NT, have left. The sole fact that I'm the oldest in our team tells a lot. There are younger ones, almost ten years younger. It's terrible! ... laughs ... But time goes on. Soon I'll end my career, others will come. I'm on good terms with other players, but the age difference is considerable and it is there.
Do you know that it's 10 years since your debut in the NT?
Yes. And it happened in Spain, if we consider only official tournaments.
How was your debut then, in Eurobasket-97?
At that time, I played for Maryland in NCAA and didn't realise yet how important the national team would be to me. I didn't take the NT very seriously. I was 21 years old, in America I lost a bit of contact with Europe and didn't even realise how much people in Lithuania support our NT.
I was really relaxed. Didn't know what to expect - will I play a lot, or only little. I remember wanting to play more. I thought the coach (J. Kazlauskas) was discriminating, giving minutes only to the "elders", "his own guys". Of course, the coach was more used to them, and I was too young. The main players then were Gintaras Einikis and Darius Lukminas. Sabonis had left after Atlanta-96. New coach Kazlauskas had come, together with new generation of players - including me.
Do you think you could have started your NT career earlier?
I think I could have gone to the Olympics in 1996 already, as the team always had problems at PG position. At least, they could have invited me to the training camp. Even in 1995, I think. But coaches always try to be with people to whom they're used. Vladas Garastas was inviting other players, while I thought - why am I not invited? I had won several youth tournaments, I was able at least to train with the NT. But the old guard was still there, and they didn't need brats like me to disturb them.
What games - won or lost - did etch the most in your memory?
The most terrible game that we lost was the quarterfinal of Eurobasket 99 in France. Žalgiris Kaunas provided its players just after victory in the Euroleague, Sabonis joined in a very good shape, and we looked wonderful. I don't know why, but the quarterfinal was a black day. I'll never forget that day. (Note: Lithuania lost to Spain 72-74, Jasikevičius scoring 22 points.) We were by far the strongest in that tournament. We smashed Italy, which later became champions, by 25 points! Terrible. This quarterfinal was the cruellest game ever.
On the other hand, all the best memories are related to olympic games and the gold of Eurobasket 2003 in Sweden.
Did you have a chance to hit that last-second three-pointer in the famous semi-final versus USA in Sydney-2000?
No. I always told that there were no chances. Of course, a "goof" can always fall in - like that one against Spain recently, from 26 metres. The game in Sydney was there to be taken by us. With a minute left, we controlled the situation, but we made some errors, unallowed if you want to win such games.
With witch NT coach the working experience was the best?
Maybe with Jonas Kazlauskas - because I had worked with him in national youth teams. He is the most universal of all the coaches. Antanas Sireika always used a small five, now Ramūnas Butautas uses two tall players, while Kazlauskas always tried to adapt. It's too early to speak about Butautas now. Concerning Sireika, we worked 2 years with him, and the gold in Sweden will never be erased - we will always remember it.
I like that all those three coaches have their paths. No one tries to copy anybody - they just have their directions and follow them. This is the most important for a coach. Furthermore, don't forget there isn't a single player for whom any coach would be ideal. We always think they're bad. Only after victories they become the best. It's the same like with the fans - before a coach wins something, he is...
It was a pleasure to work with all the coaches, they treated us well. All the years in the NT were great for me.
How did the Lithuanian fans change in 10 years?
I experienced that people got even crazier about the NT and basketball. When I started to play for the NT, I didn't realise it is observed in such a way. Now I know what goes on in Lithuania during NT tournaments. This greatly pumps us up and inspires. We want to give those people something.
Some weeks ago, you played in Vilnius Siemens arena for the first time. What's the feeling, playing in such an arena in Lithuania?
Great. Many people... The last time I experienced something like that was in Maccabi years.
The fact that you were applauded the most by the audience - does it mean anything to you?
I don't know. Didn't even notice that I was applauded the most. I've always liked playing for the NT, and my relations with the fans are good.
This year, the coaches and managers of the NT changed. Did a real revolution happen?
Not really. I don't know where one could look for a so-called "revolution". Yes, there were medical checks on players' health, we live in single rooms in better hotels - but other than that, I can't really see any differences.
What about a revolotion from the basketball point of view?
As I mentioned, now we use a taller five. The coach always wants to have two tall players on the court. To my opinion, we'll have problems in the offence as long as we don't find a good light 4 (PF). Someone like Saulius Štombergas or Mindaugas Žukauskas in the past, whose primary position was at 3 (SF).
It's time to find a man to play Štombergas' or Žukauskas' role among our players. Now, we cannot attack in a swift way, sometimes I think we're too slow overall. Before, we played a kind of basketball, where people would penetrate, then pass the ball back. Now, only me and Šiškauskas can penetrate in this way. Other players are of different style. This doesn't mean they're bad players, simply our basketball is now different. Most of all, I'm longing for a light PF, who would bring in more aggression - because I think we have too little aggression.
Since we don't have another PG of a high level in the NT, you spend a lot of time on court. Is it hard?
No. I ask the coach to let me play as much as possible. Sireika used to give me lots of minutes in preparatory games - because we all knew I'd have to spend massive minutes on court, come the tournament. I'd like to get my organism get to those loads.
I'm trying to manage that load now. Acropolis Tournament was ideal in this respect - three days of games in a row, just like in Eurobasket. This stage of preparation is very important to me - in the NBA, I weaned from the game somewhat, I wasn't getting big loads, so I need to reach good form.
Why can't Lithuania find new high-quality PGs for such a long time? Everyone is looking for a "new Šaras".
There is not PG school in Lithuania. I don't know how I managed to become a PG - I didn't have anyone to look up when growing up. All the guard-stars were number two's - Rimas Kurtinaitis, Šarūnas Marčiulionis, Valdemaras Chomičius. Even if they played point often, they were not really PGs. I hope nowadays our young players can look to some foreign PGs and learn. Actually, our basketball school has improved, and more attention is being given to PG position.
Have you watched the DVD "Lithuanian basketball" with the historical victories?
I used to take a watch when I played in Europe.
Do you get inspiration, when you remember victories?
Incredible inspiration. I never had a goal to earn a lot of money. The important thing for me is that people would remember me. This is what happens when you attain victories. We made some noise in the Olympics, we reached gold in Sweden. Those victories, attained with the Lithuanian NT, are the most important to me.
In Israel, there was a film created about you - "Šaras of the Nation" (sorry if the translation is not entirely correct - Marius123). Did it contain pieces where you would melt down and cry?
Yes. When mama came to me in Moscow and hugged me. I cried when watching that episode. (In that episode of the film, Š. Jasikevičius is telling what a fantastic handball player his mother used to be. During the Final-4 in Moscow, they are standing, holding each other in their arms. Šaras says: "This is my dear mom" - and kisses her into a cheek. When film-makers ask Rita Jasikevičienė to tell something about her son, she smiles and says: "A very good boy".)
Only in that episode?
No, really. Overall, I'm one of those whimperers. I can weep when watching movies, I melt down easily. There were more scenes in that movie when I was on the brink of tears. You know, watching a movie about yourself... It's all so beautiful.
Which is your real face: the one who is nervous and mad about referees and journalists, or the sincere smiling one when meeting your friends?
I'm an "up and down" person. Emotional. I'm not one of those who can restrain emotions. I try, but my character is not like this. It would be foolish to behave in another way, I'd be acting and not being myself.
What question do you hear from journalists the most often?
I don't know. However, the Lithuanian press is getting more and more yellow. They're looking for sensations, they can write about anything. Before, things were different. When I came to the NT, there was one or two "issue" in those 5-6 years - but it was not intentional, journalists simply misunderstood something. Now, they create everything in advance and publish it.
What's the most absurd rumour about you?
In Israel, they used to write all kind of nonsense about private life. About everything.
They were trying to find you a girlfriend, taking your photos in clubs?
Yes. Like the thing which is happening with Simas Jasaitis in Lithuania now. He'd just sit in a restaurant - an article comes about his rampage there. Where was that rampage? He might just have a free morning tomorrow and afford to take a couple of beers, or three or four beers. Now we have times when sensations are more important than relations with a person.
What gets you the most angry in basketball?
Lack of devotion to work.
Of others?
Of anyone. When you come to a training and don't give your all. There are days when you haven't slept well, are in a bad mood, had a quarrel with the wife or the like. I'm very angry when you lose and don't care about it. Yes, such situations arise. Casual relation to work is what get me the most mad.
If you didn't play basketball, what kind of fan would you be? Maybe you wouldn't watch basketball at all?
I would. I watch absolutely all the matches which are on TV. If they show a youth tournament - I watch it, if they show women's tournament - I watch it too. I'm not even speaking of the highest-level competitions. The way I'm watching depends on the circumstances. If it's among a company, where people react hotly - I'm more restrained. If I'm alone - I can curse quite strongly.
You curse the players?
Yes. Under my nose.
Do you understand why the fans are sometimes angry about you, the players?
Fans are fans. They suffer too.
Tell the fans who dresses the best in the NT.
Me! (laughs)
R. Javtokas is also intrested in fashion. Do your tastes concur?
Javtokas is dressing OK, that's true.
Why is the nickname of Kaukėnas "Mažas" (Small one)?
He just looks so small, take a look at him (laughs). When he runs circles around people on the court, he looks tiny. You come closer to him and see - oh, he's quite tall.
Why do you call Songaila - "Sonko" ?
The French NT used to have a PG - Moustapha Sonko. We'd tell Songaila - "you'll be our Sonko".
How long will you continue to play basketball?
I don't know. It's the only thing I know how to do. Maybe there are other things where I'd be good, but I haven't tried anything else yet. All my life is basketball. I can't imagine the moment when my basketball career will come to an end. Can't imagine that.
Two years ago, when you decided to pass a Eurobasket, you told that you couldn't live without painkillers. Are your legs hurting still? Do you need medicaments?
No. After that Final-4 in Moscow, I had reached the limit. I didn't move and touch a basketball for three months - never before had that happened. I just took some light jogging, played some tennis from time to time. The summer was hard. Now I don't need medicaments.
You don't regret coming back to the NT?
No. Although, when after a game with Spain, when we need to travel all night, and I see how Robertas Javtokas, having played a game and not able to sleep all night, is suffering those 3 hours in economy class, not able to stretch his legs... Such episodes don't bring optimism. But, of course, I don't regret. I want to play for the NT very much, I want to win a ticket to the Olympics, I want to win something. I've been longing for the NT very much.
Before the golden Eurobasket-2003, you phoned your mom and told her you felt you could win it all.
I think I told her after 1 or 2 matches that we'll be champions. I saw how other teams were playing, I felt what game we can show and that we have a good chance of becoming champions.
What would you tell your mom now?
I'd tell we're very far from a good form. But that's only logical. Many of us came after missing some years in the NT, we have new coaches, new system.
Are you unquiet?
Yes. But you're always unquiet when you don't know how well you'll do. Things can turn out like in France - everything was smooth, then you lose one game and it's over. Therefore, such championships are always very hard.
I'm uneasy also, because we lack aggressiveness, we can't tear down opponents' defences - which was always our main characteristic before. We would penetrate, pass back to a free player, who would penetrate again, another pass - and someone eventually would have a free shot. We used to have very good fast offence, but now we're not doing that. But there's still time, and the tournament is long. The NT has plenty of high-caliber players, we just need to coordinate everything.
Would it be a big tragedy if Lithuanian misses Beijing olympics?
It'll be so hard to get into the olympic games that it's terrible. The new order is some kind of nonsense. If some country like Iran is already guaranteed a spot - it's terrible... While only 2 or 3 teams from Europe will get direct tickets after the Eurobasket. One has to show very goods results. Nothing we can do - we have to follow the rules and fight.
Marius123
08-30-2007, 09:17 AM
Well, it's not about his contract/signing situation, but might be appropriate for this thread, which has been active lately? If not, it could be just moved to the Lithuanian sub-forum somewhere.
Joško Poljak Fan
08-30-2007, 11:39 AM
Great interview Marius, one of the best posted here... and I think thread is quite appropriate as well.
kestas
08-30-2007, 12:21 PM
it's Šarūnas...
we can use Latin letters only, imho..
Marius123
08-30-2007, 02:12 PM
it's Šarūnas...
we can use Latin letters only, imho..
I know, I know... Šarūnas, Ramūnas and Žydrūnas... Many diacritics got omitted in the translation, but now I've tried to correct it. Although I'm almost sure some mistakes still managed to slip through in this long text.
KokkinosVasilias
09-01-2007, 09:26 PM
Warriors offered Saras 250,000 $ for a buy out,
and Oly gave him a deadline until Monday to accept or not their offer
T.W.Is.M.
09-01-2007, 09:49 PM
Warriors offered Saras 250,000 $ for a buy out,
and Oly gave him a deadline until Monday to accept or not their offer
I don't believe that there is such a deadline and I'll explain the reason.Olympiacos wants Saras more than any player.However, we all know that if he comes, he won't join the team before Sept.20.Why should we decrease our chances by pressing him 2 give an answer 2 weeks before his arrival?His manager can negotiate his buyout 4 another 2 weeks without causing any problem 2 our planning if he comes.U may say that we want 2 close a deal with our alternative.Then we should have given him another deadline, around Aug.25 so that the PG we would sign instead would b here in the first training of the team.
KokkinosVasilias
09-02-2007, 05:59 AM
I don't believe that there is such a deadline and I'll explain the reason.Olympiacos wants Saras more than any player.However, we all know that if he comes, he won't join the team before Sept.20.Why should we decrease our chances by pressing him 2 give an answer 2 weeks before his arrival?His manager can negotiate his buyout 4 another 2 weeks without causing any problem 2 our planning if he comes.U may say that we want 2 close a deal with our alternative.Then we should have given him another deadline, around Aug.25 so that the PG we would sign instead would b here in the first training of the team.
i agree,
the deadline seems to show to the Warriors that Oly doesnt care that much about Saras so they will have to give him a bigger buy out to get rid of him,
i am sure that on Monday they will decide to give another deadline and so on
Straight forward
09-02-2007, 01:10 PM
I think there are some chances that Saras will sign the contract with Oly tomorrow, cause his agent saying that it's time to take decision. I just dont like the fact that Oly disturbing Saras just before the Eurobasket.
fulcizombie
09-02-2007, 03:13 PM
I think there are some chances that Saras will sign the contract with Oly tomorrow, cause his agent saying that it's time to take decision. I just dont like the fact that Oly disturbing Saras just before the Eurobasket.
I wish someone was disturbing me by offering me 3.5 million euros per year!!:D :D
Muzonasxxx
09-02-2007, 04:23 PM
I wish someone was disturbing me by offering me 3.5 million euros per year!!:D :D
so win 3 time Euroleague,European Champioship,Bronze in Olympiada,hit over 25 points vs win over USA Team,be MVP Euroleague Final,Spain League Final MVP and maybe you get your 3.5 million offer :)
fulcizombie
09-02-2007, 04:28 PM
so win 3 time Euroleague,European Champioship,Bronze in Olympiada,hit over 25 points vs win over USA Team,be MVP Euroleague Final,Spain League Final MVP and maybe you get your 3.5 million offer :)
Wow, some great achievements for humanity right there!!!:p
Straight forward
09-03-2007, 09:13 AM
well, good news! Saras will take decision after Eurobasket :D and other funny news is that Pao is interested in Jasikevicius either...that's it- EUROBASKET IS STARTING!!!
KokkinosVasilias
09-03-2007, 09:45 AM
other funny news is that Pao is interested in Jasikevicius
a link?
Straight forward
09-03-2007, 09:47 AM
http://www.krepsinis.net/news.php?news_id=72875
anyways, it's says that Saras prefer Oly and Barsa from Europe...
snowman30
09-03-2007, 09:49 AM
Pao can't afford the money to cover the offer from Oly.Saras is Olympiacos main target..no one cam match oly's offer to saras(3.5 -3.7 million euros per year).
fulcizombie
09-03-2007, 11:38 AM
well, good news! Saras will take decision after Eurobasket :D and other funny news is that Pao is interested in Jasikevicius either...that's it- EUROBASKET IS STARTING!!!
Yeah i am sure Pao will give 3+ million euros(almost double of what the most expensive Pao player*Diamantidis* gets paid) to have him on the bench , or have Diamantidis (or Spanoulis) on the bench.
What a bunch of BS.
snowman30
09-05-2007, 11:23 AM
Mαrca reports that Sarunas agree with olympiacos for the next 3 years.The report is from Jesus Sanchez a well respected journalist specialized in nba.
Mαrca reports that Sarunas agree with olympiacos for the next 3 years.The report is from Jesus Sanchez a well respected journalist specialized in nba.
Israeli website name Ynet Report that he sign for 3 years for 8 milion dollars in Oly.
Roy M
09-05-2007, 02:21 PM
Israeli website name Ynet Report that he sign for 3 years for 8 milion dollars in Oly.
And www.nrg.co.il said, that he will not play ai Oly.
He will play in Real.
rayo1985
09-05-2007, 02:22 PM
:D SARUNAS in Olympiakos Pireus !!! :D
details: www.eurobasket.com
Roy M
09-05-2007, 02:38 PM
:D SARUNAS in Olympiakos Pireus !!! :D
details: www.eurobasket.com
They took this information from the "Marca". he will not be in Oly.
reignman
09-05-2007, 02:44 PM
They took this information from the "Marca". he will not be in Oly.
yes he will.
If not MACCABI then spain is the right place for him!
even if it will be barcelona or even real(big rival of maccabi in "those days"...just like we had Pana' and Cska in the last few years....;) ...)
but i hope he will end his career in MACCABI(FROM next season at least... it will be great closure for him and for us too...:) ;) )
Get Rich Or Die Playin
09-05-2007, 03:24 PM
Somebody please translate this article:
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/305/acb/es/desarrollo/1032312.html
Roy M
09-05-2007, 03:35 PM
yes he will.
If you'll fine even a single link about Saras and his releace from Golden-State, I'll give what ever you want.
It's not so easy to "go away", escape from a contract in the NBA. The Warriors have to buy his contract or pay him his contract and they still have a chance to trade him and don't loose money.
Turkish Airlines Euroleague
09-05-2007, 03:38 PM
If you'll fine even a single link about Saras and his releace from Golden-State, I'll give what ever you want.
It's not so easy to "go away", escape from a contract in the NBA. The Warriors have to buy his contract or pay him his contract and they still have a chance to trade him and don't loose money.
Saras will be transfered to Olympiakos. And this is final!!! Soon ( in few hours maybe ), Olympiakos KAE will announce his transfer.
fulcizombie
09-05-2007, 04:20 PM
Jasikevicious will sing in Real Madrid and Oly will stay from titles once again.:cool:
Morons......(Gershon and the Oly owners)
T.W.Is.M.
09-05-2007, 04:42 PM
If you'll fine even a single link about Saras and his releace from Golden-State, I'll give what ever you want.
It's not so easy to "go away", escape from a contract in the NBA. The Warriors have to buy his contract or pay him his contract and they still have a chance to trade him and don't loose money.
Indeed I can't find a link about him released, because he hasn't been released.Find me a realistic scenario with him being traded.I wonder who will pay him $4M.
edit:If there is one newspaper that should know better the news of Real Madrid, it's Marca.I think their purpose of writing that article was 2 say that Saras isn't going 2 Barcelona.But if Real is close 2 Saras, wouldn't Marca at least hint something?
Turkish Airlines Euroleague
09-05-2007, 05:58 PM
Jasikevicious will sing in Real Madrid and Oly will stay from titles once again.:cool:
Morons......(Gershon and the Oly owners)
Haha, Real Madrid ? Is there any site talking about Real Madrid ? You must be joking us...
Roy M
09-05-2007, 06:08 PM
Haha, Real Madrid ? Is there any site talking about Real Madrid ? You must be joking us...
No, it's true. all the web sites in Israel wrote in the last hours that saras will play in Real.
reignman
09-05-2007, 06:13 PM
yeah for sure...
take away raul lopez , kerim tunceri , charles smith and louis bullock... then ofcourse you can add another start guard to those 4 guys.
I ONLY LAUGH AT THIS.
fulcizombie
09-05-2007, 06:14 PM
That's a huge defeat for Oly's owners and pretty embarrassing ,i might add.After being unable to sign a single Greek player of the NT, now they've lost Saras.
Now we'll have to deal with whoever stupid American they bring to our team.
Roy M
09-05-2007, 06:33 PM
yeah for sure...
take away raul lopez , kerim tunceri , charles smith and louis bullock... then ofcourse you can add another start guard to those 4 guys.
I ONLY LAUGH AT THIS.
Saras agreed terms with Real. as I tald you during August that he will not play in Greece.
The only hurdle there is the Worriors, that have a contrat with Saras and yet to releace him.
reignman
09-05-2007, 06:41 PM
same way he agreed terms with oly. ;)
fulcizombie
09-05-2007, 06:52 PM
Saras agreed terms with Real. as I tald you during August that he will not play in Greece.
The only hurdle there is the Worriors, that have a contrat with Saras and yet to releace him.
No what you were saying is that he won't return to Europe this year.
Anyway Oly will probably announce Bell in the next few hours/days.The season is over ,before it even begun , for Oly IMO with one "good" (not even great) PG (Blakney).
reignman
09-05-2007, 07:12 PM
the season is destroyed you mean....
pfffffffffffffffffffffffffff
fulcizombie
09-05-2007, 07:16 PM
the season is destroyed you mean....
pfffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Yes it is.We will not present a BB team ,we will present a circus act.
reignman
09-05-2007, 07:21 PM
damn....
although i still believe saras will come to oly ;)
aggelopoulos will give him everything. we almost destroyed all of our team construction for saras. Real simply CANT TAKE HIM from aggelopoulos brothers.
fulcizombie
09-05-2007, 07:32 PM
damn....
although i still believe saras will come to oly ;)
aggelopoulos will give him everything. we almost destroyed all of our team construction for saras. Real simply CANT TAKE HIM from aggelopoulos brothers.
This fairytale about Aggelopoulos' brothers has to end.They didn't manage to sign Fotsis cause he was "too expensive", they didn't manage to sign Zisis, the only truly great signing that they have done in 3 years is Masijaouskas (nevermind that he was injured).They are always a step behind the other wealthy European teams (Pao,CSSKA e.t.c)
c_fish
09-05-2007, 09:17 PM
damn....
although i still believe saras will come to oly ;)
aggelopoulos will give him everything. we almost destroyed all of our team construction for saras. Real simply CANT TAKE HIM from aggelopoulos brothers.
OK....but I'd start working on a Bell in a red jersey pic for my avatar if I were you:p
T.W.Is.M.
09-07-2007, 02:02 PM
Not so fast...
Jasikevicius gave an interview in today's El Mundo Deportivo where he said:
"Everybody knows that if I decide 2 return in Europe my first choice would b Barcelona.For as long as I live I'll be a fan of Barca.Rumors send me to Real Madrid, but nobody wants to believe it.But the truth is I would never play for Real.What I want now is to continue my career in the USA.I want to find an NBA team where I can have an important role.I made a mistake when I signed for the Pacers, because I was playing more as a SG, which is something I hadn't done for a long time.But in the Warriors thing were hard as well, because the star of the team, Baron Davis, is a PG too.I want to find a team where I will play 20, not 40, minutes."
reignman
09-07-2007, 02:39 PM
if that was true twism he would say the exact same thing about oly to ;) but he didnt even mention it.
take the clue and use it wisely.
T.W.Is.M.
09-07-2007, 05:08 PM
if that was true twism he would say the exact same thing about oly to ;) but he didnt even mention it.
take the clue and use it wisely.
I don't understand what u mean in this phrase.
Actually that's what I do.In fact I take all the facts and clues in order 2 draw a conclusion.But here I only transmitted what I read with no personal element;)
reignman
09-07-2007, 06:00 PM
he said HE IS NOT GOING TO REAL MADRID. he made it clear that all the talkings were false. he didnt do the same with oly ;) in fact he didnt even mention it.
its like a former olympiakos player ... lets say Papaloukas talking to prwta8litis and saying : i will never come back to olympiakos. it wont happen ;)
saras is red to the bone :)
PHILIPeurobasket
09-07-2007, 06:38 PM
:D SARUNAS in Olympiakos Pireus !!! :D
details: www.eurobasket.com
I cannot believe :eek: Im really in shock !!! :eek: OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
Turkish Airlines Euroleague
09-07-2007, 07:02 PM
Real Madrid no, Barcelona no, NBA no, so what he is waiting for ? Maybe the end of the Eurobasket ?
T.W.Is.M.
09-07-2007, 08:30 PM
he said HE IS NOT GOING TO REAL MADRID. he made it clear that all the talkings were false. he didnt do the same with oly ;) in fact he didnt even mention it.
its like a former olympiakos player ... lets say Papaloukas talking to prwta8litis and saying : i will never come back to olympiakos. it wont happen ;)
saras is red to the bone :)
actually it's like Papaloukas saying:"I would never go 2 Panathinaikos".
I know what he did, that's what I'm saying too.when he talks 2 the spanish media, he talks about Barcelona(which probably can't afford him), at the same time he leaves the door open 4 Olympiacos and declares he wants 2 remain in the NBA.
since the greek media claim Oly is not willing 2 wait 4 him 4 long(because we don't wanna start the season with one player minus), but we still want him, why don't we sign another european PG with a monthly contract as a temporary backup 4 Blakney and when/if Saras is released, we sign him?
c_fish
09-08-2007, 10:33 PM
Sports-fm radio reporters claim spanish magazine ("Periodiko" sth :confused: not sure) reported PAO proposed to Yasikevicius, though the money offered were less than Oly's proposition.
Signing Saras would mean one of the non greek players wouldn't be eligible for greek championship.Could this be connected to Fener's rumored interest in Becirovic :confused:
reignman
09-09-2007, 05:44 AM
ahhaahhahaa
what ppl cant understand is that IF saras comes to europe he is an oly player ;) simple as that.
KokkinosVasilias
09-09-2007, 07:16 AM
http://www.sportdog.gr/new/article.aspx?id=43379
according to El Periodico PAO has offered 7 m Euros for 2...
http://www.sportdog.gr/new/article.aspx?id=43379
according to El Periodico PAO has offered 7 m Euros for 2...
yea right:D maybe Saras manager wants 500K Euros more from OLY and finds imaginative proposals:p
PAO roster has closed
EverGreen
09-09-2007, 12:05 PM
Original Spanish link to in regards to PAO's (rumoured) offer to Jaski- K.
http://www.elperiodico.com/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=46&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=439467&idseccio_PK=1011
I find this hard to swallow. It makes no sense...are they going to release Milos Vujanic to sign Saras?
Sorry, I don't buy it.
sbandda
09-09-2007, 08:31 PM
I think that you all forget that he's a married man, and his wife stated numerous times in the past that she doesn't want to go back to Europe, but stay in the US.
Taking this into consideration, I'll bet my pants that he'll be playing in the NBA next season (or at least sitting on the bench...)
KokkinosVasilias
09-10-2007, 06:05 AM
http://www.sportime.gr/basket_inside.asp?article_id=58822
Saras manager:
"Olympiakos offer is great but Saras wont play there simply because he doesnt want to, he has his own reasons which I dont know and I dont care to know"
My guess is he is going to sign to PAO :mad: :(
Red Inspiration
09-10-2007, 06:10 AM
http://www.sportime.gr/basket_inside.asp?article_id=58822
Saras manager:
"Olympiakos offer is great but Saras wont play there simply because he doesnt want to, he has his own reasons which I dont know and I dont care to know"
My guess is he is going to sign to PAO :mad: :(
My guess is he doesn't want to come to greece, not to pao instead of oly.
Probably spain...
Markoishvili
09-10-2007, 06:30 AM
Jasikevicius said recently in a interview that he will be playing for Barcelona if he does come back to Europe.
Red Inspiration
09-10-2007, 01:45 PM
Besides that PAO's roster is completed. He is not coming to Greece, man.
That's what i said too.
Also judging from siskauskas's first interview after he left PAO for ccska, i wonder what he said to saras, whan he probably asked about the greek league....:p
Not the best i guess... :rolleyes:
I bet he will sign to barca if he returns to europe.
Straight forward
09-10-2007, 02:31 PM
That's what i said too.
Also judging from siskauskas's first interview after he left PAO for ccska, i wonder what he said to saras, whan he probably asked about the greek league....:p
Not the best i guess... :rolleyes:
I bet he will sign to barca if he returns to europe.
I don't think so. There was only big CSKA money. But who knows, maybe he didnt enjoyed playing with Diamantidis. but i realy doubt about that.
EverGreen
09-10-2007, 03:26 PM
I don't think so. There was only big CSKA money. But who knows, maybe he didnt enjoyed playing with Diamantidis. but i realy doubt about that.
I think it boiled down to the fact that Ramas was to embarassed to ask for a 150% salary increase thus leaving PAO without hesitation. I'm sure that if he had asked PAO for a pay increase (from 1,1 mil euros) he would have at most got about 1,8-2 mil at max. and if that. There was no way he was to get more in fear of ruining the clubs pay stracture with Diamantidis on 1,7-1,9-2,1 over the next 3 years. He never would have got the 2,5 mil which is rumoured that he is being paid at CSKA.
He may have said some silly things but I don't really care about that. He honoured the PAO shirt while he wore it giving 110% each game. We won everything with him and he was a massive reason it all happend.
Turkish Airlines Euroleague
09-10-2007, 05:58 PM
That's what i said too.
Also judging from siskauskas's first interview after he left PAO for ccska, i wonder what he said to saras, whan he probably asked about the greek league....:p
Not the best i guess... :rolleyes:
I bet he will sign to barca if he returns to europe.
Lol that's funny. Greek league is one of the best league around along with Italian, Spanish and maybe Russian. I don't think Siska left Pana only because the Greek League sucks ( which is a lie ). Yeah propably, was CSKA's money.
I insist that Saras will sign his new contract with Olympiakos after the end of the Eurobasket. Let's be patient and we will see at the end, what will happen with this guy.
T.W.Is.M.
09-10-2007, 06:47 PM
Lol that's funny. Greek league is one of the best league around along with Italian, Spanish and maybe Russian. I don't think Siska left Pana only because the Greek League sucks ( which is a lie ). Yeah propably, was CSKA's money.
I insist that Saras will sign his new contract with Olympiakos after the end of the Eurobasket. Let's be patient and we will see at the end, what will happen with this guy.
http://www.betsmart.gr/mainsite/modules/news/article.php?storyid=59389
It's the second link posted here with the same statement by Saras' manager.He claims there is no chance he will play 4 Olympiacos.Same thing that the player did with Real Madrid a few days ago.
I have the impression that Bell will not agree 2 come 2 Greece.That leaves is with Teodosic and Blakney as PGs...
Do not underestimate the power of Air Kafkis!!!:D
Turkish Airlines Euroleague
09-10-2007, 07:12 PM
http://www.betsmart.gr/mainsite/modules/news/article.php?storyid=59389
It's the second link posted here with the same statement by Saras' manager.He claims there is no chance he will play 4 Olympiacos.Same thing that the player did with Real Madrid a few days ago.
I have the impression that Bell will not agree 2 come 2 Greece.That leaves is with Teodosic and Blakney as PGs...
Do not underestimate the power of Air Kafkis!!!:D
Well wrong impression. I think that both Bell and Saras will come to Pireaus. Let's wait...
reignman
09-10-2007, 07:56 PM
and then we will loan some of our players to our football team that needs a center back.
Turkish Airlines Euroleague
09-10-2007, 08:28 PM
and then we will loan some of our players to our football team that needs a center back.
Big Sofo is suitable for this position!!!! :p
T.W.Is.M.
09-10-2007, 08:48 PM
Well wrong impression. I think that both Bell and Saras will come to Pireaus. Let's wait...
Actually an ideal solution would b:
Get Teodosic since he is considered the next big prospect in Europe.
Keep the interest 4 Saras until he understands that there is no place in the NBA(early October?).
Sign Saras and immediately loan out Teodosic 4 the remainder of the season.If possible loan him 2 a team that will end its season before the start of the greek playoffs.Thus we may have a choice before the playoffs start 2 pick between Blakney and Teodosic(if he has progressed enough during the season).
Replace Blakney with Teodosic in the next summer.This way Teodosic will gain experience from the best and will have more chances of fulfilling his potential.
However, Jasikevicius has just closed the door 2 Olympiacos, so this is just a wish.
As 4 Bell, a player with so good NBA stats may come 2 Europe only if he is either a moving problem or european.Bell is none of these.10 years ago one could come if he was 35+(Eddie Johnson, Dominique, Tom Chambers).Bell is not in this category either.Therefore, I don't c a reason 4 him coming 2 Europe.But of course, we'll b here and c what happens.
Well wrong impression. I think that both Bell and Saras will come to Pireaus. Let's wait...
BOTH?:D :D man you must be joking.With Teodosic already?:rolleyes:
Actually an ideal solution would b:
Get Teodosic since he is considered the next big prospect in Europe.
Keep the interest 4 Saras until he understands that there is no place in the NBA(early October?).
Sign Saras and immediately loan out Teodosic 4 the remainder of the season.If possible loan him 2 a team that will end its season before the start of the greek playoffs.Thus we may have a choice before the playoffs start 2 pick between Blakney and Teodosic(if he has progressed enough during the season).
Replace Blakney with Teodosic in the next summer.This way Teodosic will gain experience from the best and will have more chances of fulfilling his potential.
However, Jasikevicius has just closed the door 2 Olympiacos, so this is just a wish.
As 4 Bell, a player with so good NBA stats may come 2 Europe only if he is either a moving problem or european.Bell is none of these.10 years ago one could come if he was 35+(Eddie Johnson, Dominique, Tom Chambers).Bell is not in this category either.Therefore, I don't c a reason 4 him coming 2 Europe.But of course, we'll b here and c what happens.
this year OLY will be full of surprises :) but in the end we all know what will happen :D i am joking dont throw things :D
sbandda
09-10-2007, 10:32 PM
Actually an ideal solution would b:
Get Teodosic since he is considered the next big prospect in Europe.
Keep the interest 4 Saras until he understands that there is no place in the NBA(early October?).
Sign Saras and immediately loan out Teodosic 4 the remainder of the season.If possible loan him 2 a team that will end its season before the start of the greek playoffs.Thus we may have a choice before the playoffs start 2 pick between Blakney and Teodosic(if he has progressed enough during the season).
Replace Blakney with Teodosic in the next summer.This way Teodosic will gain experience from the best and will have more chances of fulfilling his potential.
However, Jasikevicius has just closed the door 2 Olympiacos, so this is just a wish.
As 4 Bell, a player with so good NBA stats may come 2 Europe only if he is either a moving problem or european.Bell is none of these.10 years ago one could come if he was 35+(Eddie Johnson, Dominique, Tom Chambers).Bell is not in this category either.Therefore, I don't c a reason 4 him coming 2 Europe.But of course, we'll b here and c what happens.
Bell has vast Euroleague experience and he's unable to come to terms with the Bucks (both Financially and role definition). Olympiacos is offering him major $$$, so I can definitely see him playing there next season.
Buducnost PG
09-10-2007, 10:35 PM
Bell has vast Euroleague experience and he's unable to come to terms with the Bucks (both Financially and role definition). Olympiacos is offering him major $$$, so I can definitely see him playing there next season.
Bucks have put a lot of money in Mo Williams. So it looks like there is no place for Bell and also no big money. If Oly offers him around 2,5mio net per season there are good chances that he will join them. He would be a great addition to them and the european basketball.
Turkish Airlines Euroleague
09-11-2007, 12:38 PM
No the problem with Bell for Bucks aren't the money, but the years of the contract. Bell wants 5 years contract with Bucks, but Bucks give him only 2 years contract. That's why I give 60% for Oly to sign him and 40% for Bucks.
Btw about Saras and Bell in the same team. Well Seibutis was injured and he will stay 2 months out. So it's possible we will loan him to another Greek team ( like Maroussi for example ), so we will have an opened position for Saras. As far as Saras isn't reach in terms with another, NBA or no, team, Oly will surely be behind him. ;)
LuDux
09-14-2007, 05:50 PM
Don Nelson, the coach who helped vault the Warriors back into playoff prominence, said Thursday that he has reached an agreement in principle with the team on a reworked deal that will bring him back for at least one more season.
http://www.mercurynews.com/sportsheadlines/ci_6891441
Things should start moving now
billotos
09-14-2007, 11:04 PM
bell is not coming to greece because his wife doesn't want to come along. i don't think he will come. the bucks want him and offer him 9 mil for 3 years.
well well :D
do you want someone to know what is the present of bros Gianakopouloi for the 100 years to PAO?
do you want to know what will be the colour of Saras new sport uniform this season?
do you want to know who will be the next huge No1 overpayed player in Europe?
AND REALLY
who is the best player in the world:D
the one who will sign the next days for PAO
:D cheersssssss
frost
09-15-2007, 09:38 AM
well well :D
do you want someone to know what is the present of bros Gianakopouloi for the 100 years to PAO?
do you want to know what will be the colour of Saras new sport uniform this season?
do you want to know who will be the next huge No1 overpayed player in Europe?
AND REALLY
who is the best player in the world:D
the one who will sign the next days for PAO
:D cheersssssss
Do you really believe that saras will come to pao??you must be dreaming..First pao doesn't need him cause he has many elite pointguards(diamantidis,vougianic,betsirovic,spano ulis,xatzivretas..), second pao has already four foreign players(zizits,vougianic,tomasevic,betsirovic) so for saras to come,someone must leave or play only for euroleague(probably tomasevic..), 3rd can you tell me how is it possible to give to saras 3,5million per year while diamantidis takes only 1,9??this could destroy the balance in the team...and i think that if saras comes to greece he will choose olympiakos because of macas and gerson!Εσύ ακόμα ρε βαζελε πιστεύεις ότι θα πάρετε saras??ρε μλκ κολλημένε δεν υπάρχει περίπτωση,αυτά είναι μλκίες ελλήνων δημοσιογράφων..και καλά επειδή σασ πήραμε teodosic,να μασ πάρετε τον Σαρασ...
Do you really believe that saras will come to pao??you must be dreaming..First pao doesn't need him cause he has many elite pointguards(diamantidis,vougianic,betsirovic,spano ulis,xatzivretas..), second pao has already four foreign players(zizits,vougianic,tomasevic,betsirovic) so for saras to come,someone must leave or play only for euroleague(probably tomasevic..), 3rd can you tell me how is it possible to give to saras 3,5million per year while diamantidis takes only 1,9??this could destroy the balance in the team...and i think that if saras comes to greece he will choose olympiakos because of macas and gerson!Εσύ ακόμα ρε βαζελε πιστεύεις ότι θα πάρετε saras??ρε μλκ κολλημένε δεν υπάρχει περίπτωση,αυτά είναι μλκίες ελλήνων δημοσιογράφων..και καλά επειδή σασ πήραμε teodosic,να μασ πάρετε τον Σαρασ...
frost listen to me
1.elite PGs in an elite team is never enough:D If Saras will sign Chatzivretas will play less minutes.Its logical.Ah and Chatzivrettas and Beci are not PGs.
2.We all know that with 5 tall guys we dont need Tomasevic in Greek league:D we can beat Rethimno without him:p
3.is it possible to give 3.5;xaxa ask bro Gianakopouloi:D
4.your nice words to me proves you are crying now.chill out.its a beautiful day and a beautiful season is coming..as i have promised i wont fight again with anyone.especially people like you
5.i dont care if we sign him.we have terrific team with or without him.even if liths NT players confirm this along as journalists from Lithuania and Spain.But imagine this if we take him where you will be then;:D and how Aggelopouloi and OLY friends will feel;
look the level of other red friends and compare it with yours
kid learn to accept jokes and teases and not make only
ciao babino:D
frost
09-15-2007, 10:10 AM
frost listen to me
1.elite PGs in an elite team is never enough:D If Saras will sign Chatzivretas will play little minutes.Its logical.Ah and Chatzivrettas and Beci are not PGs.
2.We all know that with 5 tall guys we dont need Tomasevic in Greek league:D we can beat Rethimno without him:p
3.is it possible to give 3.5;xaxa ask bro Gianakopouloi:D
4.your nice words to me proves you are crying now.chill out.its a beautiful day and a beautiful season is coming..as i have promised i wont fight again with anyone.especially people like you
5.i dont care if we sign him.we have terrific team with or without him.even if liths NT players confirm this along as journalists from Lithuania and Spain.But imagine this if we take him where you will be then;:D and how Aggelopouloi and OLY friends will feel;
look the level of other red friends and compare it with yours
kid learn to accept jokes and teases and not make only
ciao babino:D
If pao signs saras then he wil become the best team in europe by far,and i will die!if pao doesn't sign saras he and cska will be the best...i havent heard anything about saras already agreement with pao, only greek newspapers are confirming it!and we all know tha greek newspapers are not reliable sources!there are no such knews from spain nor lithuania and not even one site says that saras will come to pao!!not even greek ones such as spor24,superbaskset or contra!do you remember what happened a month ago??a greek,spanish newspapers said that saras has already signed with olympiakos!and then?it was a lie..i think that this time is also a lie,and i think tha saras will play in the nba this season..Ahh and i live in greece so i know gianakopoulos and his love for the team!i didn't say that he cant afford 3.5million for saras!of course he can!but i think that if he gives diamantidis 1,9 per year and saras 3,5 million per year then he will destroy the balance in the team!!i mean why saras take so much more than diamantidis?
If pao signs saras then he wil become the best team in europe by far,and i will die!if pao doesn't sign saras he and cska will be the best...i havent heard anything about saras already agreement with pao, only greek newspapers are confirming it!and we all know tha greek newspapers are not reliable sources!there are no such knews from spain nor lithuania and not even one site says that saras will come to pao!!not even greek ones such as spor24,superbaskset or contra!do you remember what happened a month ago??a greek,spanish newspapers said that saras has already signed with olympiakos!and then?it was a lie..i think that this time is also a lie,and i think tha saras will play in the nba this season..Ahh and i live in greece so i know gianakopoulos and his love for the team!i didn't say that he cant afford 3.5million for saras!of course he can!but i think that if he gives diamantidis 1,9 per year and saras 3,5 million per year then he will destroy the balance in the team!!i mean why saras take so much more than diamantidis?
now we can talk,you speak better
so look here
http://www.sportdog.gr/new/article.aspx?id=43940
http://www.sportime.gr/basket_inside.asp?article_id=59028
http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=101453
also check today newspapers and sport radio stations news.
also check what Tentopoulos said from Spain after talking with some of the liths NT players
also question yourself about the trip of Manos Papadopoulos (manager of PAO) to Spain.
and that only untill this morning
i am not putting my hand into the fire but the indications are good.and i dont care if we sign him.just i want to tease OLY friends because its funny in a way so much time to wait for this player and PAO grab him
Ofcourse all these will happen if Warriors will let him.Untill then we will wait.but i know that Gianakopouloi had promised a ¨gift¨ early this summer
about Diamantidis now..he is so shy and good man that he would never said anything about Saras.Maybe a player like Skola would say but certaintly no DD.
frost
09-15-2007, 10:57 AM
now we can talk,you speak better
so look here
http://www.sportdog.gr/new/article.aspx?id=43940
http://www.sportime.gr/basket_inside.asp?article_id=59028
http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=101453
also check today newspapers and sport radio stations news.
also check what Tentopoulos said from Spain after talking with some of the liths NT players
also question yourself about the trip of Manos Papadopoulos (manager of PAO) to Spain.
and that only untill this morning
i am not putting my hand into the fire but the indications are good.and i dont care if we sign him.just i want to tease OLY friends because its funny in a way so much time to wait for this player and PAO grab him
Ofcourse all these will happen if Warriors will let him.Untill then we will wait.but i know that Gianakopouloi had promised a ¨gift¨ early this summer
about Diamantidis now..he is so shy and good man that he would never said anything about Saras.Maybe a player like Skola would say but certaintly no DD.
i know that every knews in greece keep saying that saras is really close to pao..i hope they are not telling the truth cause it would make me cry..if saras goes to pao, then pao will be the best team in europe by far,and one of the best teams in the whole history of european basketball..gianakopoulos will make pao's fan crazy for one more time...and olympiakos fans(including me) will start crying...but ive searched the net,and still couldn't find a european article about saras and pao..nor did i find a lithuanian one..and a guy in another forum who is crazy about saras and lives in lithuania, says that no newspapers or radiostation in lithuania say something about saras and pao..and he believes saras will stay at the nba..
jaka13
09-15-2007, 12:01 PM
i think that we don't really need him.
But a player like saras is always helpful in a elite team as panathinaikos is.
P.S.:reds and israelis may pray now...:D :D :D
reignman
09-15-2007, 02:25 PM
and its not gonna happen :D
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so simple :(
Turkish Airlines Euroleague
09-15-2007, 02:26 PM
Saras and 3D in the same team. This is madness ! This is Panathinaikos !
Lol. We haven't signed him yet however ! :D
Yeah and he will never sign to Pao. :D
alley oop
09-15-2007, 02:57 PM
It doesnt make sense for Saras to sign for Panathinaikos. Its not possible for a team to get the maximum of Diamantidis and Jasikevicius when they are both on court at the same time. Lots of talk is about Diamantidis playing as SF or Saras as a SG. What a waste.
Reporters bullshit in my opinion so they can claim the exclusivity. They have mentioned every team in Europe. Real, Barca,Olympiakos,Panathinaikos even CSKA and Maccabi were associated. That of course only if he leaves NBA. Great reporting!!! Well I can give you all 6 winning lottery numbers if I can have 49 guesses!!!!
I think the guy wants another crack at the NBA. If not Olympiakos is the best challenge for him.
Turkish Airlines Euroleague
09-15-2007, 03:31 PM
It doesnt make sense for Saras to sign for Panathinaikos. Its not possible for a team to get the maximum of Diamantidis and Jasikevicius when they are both on court at the same time. Lots of talk is about Diamantidis playing as SF or Saras as a SG. What a waste.
Reporters bullshit in my opinion so they can claim the exclusivity. They have mentioned every team in Europe. Real, Barca,Olympiakos,Panathinaikos even CSKA and Maccabi were associated. That of course only if he leaves NBA. Great reporting!!! Well I can give you all 6 winning lottery numbers if I can have 49 guesses!!!!
I think the guy wants another crack at the NBA. If not Olympiakos is the best challenge for him.
The only teams which are really behind Saras "door" is Barcelona and Oly. All the other teams, were just some bullshits from reporters. And as I know Savic said that Barcelona doesn't has the money for Saras, Oly will be his next Europian team, if he manage finally to return to Europe.
Saras and 3D in the same team. This is madness ! This is Panathinaikos !
Lol. We haven't signed him yet however ! :D
xaxaxa i think with this kind of posts and Greece performance i will watch again 300 the movie:D
by the way euroleague and greenfan avatars are all the money :D
i have another info, Era Sport journalist told today that Lithuania players admit that Saras want to play for PAO if he stay in Europe and noone else.
Xm maybe also this is false.So many false rumors in just one day :D possible
i hope for OLY friends and Aggelopouloi Saras will stay in NBA otherwise...
dont shoot..joke :D
frost
09-16-2007, 07:25 AM
im afraid guys that saras will join pao next week..gianakopoulos is giving him 10million dollars for two years and 2million in order to brake his contract with the warriors..as you see it is a lot of money....nobody can resist such an offer!Im sure that olympiakos pissed off gianakopoulos when he grabed teodosic from pao's hands at the last minute!im olympiakos fan and im really sad about the knews im listening..WHERE is olympiakos move??i keep hearing all summer about olympiakos taking pargo,saras,bell...and finally noone!!what is going to happen?we need a top class pointguard and not just someone..Im sorry for telling you this guys but im afraid that if pao signs saras...then pao will make the best team in europe's basketball history...
if this is true about 12 milion offer !!!!!!! bro Gianakopouloi must be crazy indeed.:D
will see maybe is another false rumor:p
check this
http://www.sport-fm.gr/news.jsp?newsID=101566
one of the best sport sites (general) in Greece (if not the best) writes about closing the transfer of Saras to PAO after the trip of Manos Papafopoulos and Obradovic to Spain:D
this year i will kill to have a season tichet
but fortunately to others i already have;)
c_fish
09-16-2007, 08:29 AM
I remember a few years back when a silent pact between Pao and Oly with none making offers to a player the other was interested :D .And this year;Pao steals Perperoglou,Oly steals Teodosic,Pao (seem to) steal Yasikevicius.
Imo if the sum of money mentioned (I've read about 7mil for 2 yrs) would be better if offered to sign a better C.Pao's backcourt seems to be exaggerated a bit
PS If the bros are giving so much money to player,then somebody could be having 2nd thoughts now about not telling them the offer he had:rolleyes:
and dont forget the rumor about Zoran Erceg;)
i think PAO saw Gershon plans of reaching 30 players in a roster and try the same.:)
if i see both DD and Saras while on the bench we have Spanoulis and Beci and the new Vujanic (along as MACE will have a good season i think.in the first friendly was the best player by far of PAO.It seems that his injury belong to the past) i dont care about exaggerated things.Lucky the Greeks who will see them on court.IF SARAS WILL SIGN OFCOURSE.
KokkinosVasilias
09-16-2007, 10:53 AM
Prasini (owner is Giannakopoulos' son, i think) yesterday had on front page the Saras agreement with PAO
did you see the front page today? isnt that bizzare? :confused:
Prasini (owner is Giannakopoulos' son, i think) yesterday had on front page the Saras agreement with PAO
did you see the front page today? isnt that bizzare? :confused:
no its not.i thought about it.
if you think Saras belonging to Warriors.Prasini represent the interest of PAO and bros.SO if this rumor will be extend there is a danger of this transfer to be cancelled.Someone told to Prasini not to write things for some days.Or to write general things about the case;) I guess who..
BRING THE WAR OF THE OTHER THREADS HERE.I AM WAITING..:D
where are the OLY friends:( only the usual people Kokkinosvasilias and Twism.Shit..i am bored with them.Frost come back:p
FROSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT......AGHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh.... ........
:D :D :D
KokkinosVasilias
09-16-2007, 12:01 PM
no its not.i thought about it.
if you think Saras belonging to Warriors.Prasini represent the interest of PAO and bros.SO if this rumor will be extend there is a danger of this transfer to be cancelled.Someone told to Prasini not to write things for some days.Or to write general things about the case;) I guess who..
so this agreement must be kept secret...
hmmmm.....
anyone knows the e-mail of Warriors general manager?
mouahahahaha!!!!
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