Semi-finals: Spain vs Greece

[rikhardur]

Last year's WC final resurrected. Will Spain prove their world champion character or will Greece show their warrior character?
Let the discussion and the voting begin! ;)

[softice]

One vote for Spain :)

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

If Greece will manage to play ONE AND SINGLE GAME as played in the last 3 minutes with Slovenia, can crush EASILY the Spanish team and their simple defence game. We just want a better shoot from 6,25 and a Papaloukas same with one of the laste mins with Slovenjia. Of course it's quite difficult, so I give 65% for Spain and 35% for Greece. Let's see... :D

[CG]

Spain is the clear favorite.better basketball and they had rest while Greek team will give 2 games less than 24 hours.Even if they were even that is catastrofic for every team (congratulations for the schedule of Spaniards by the way).They have 80-20 to win.We must be realistic.All the odds are against us.but

THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:D
and we will fight in the dark

[estanis]

If Greece will manage to play ONE AND SINGLE GAME as played in the last 3 minutes with Slovenia, can crush EASILY the Spanish team and their simple defence game.
....wow this stament is COMEDY at its best.:D

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

....wow this stament is COMEDY at its best.:D

Yeah I'm good comedian!!! :p
Btw I overeact. Yeah we cannot win EASILY the Spanish team, but if we play as we did in the last 3 mins with Slovenia we have many hopes. And I can't understand why there are still people who think that Spanish defence is better than the Greek defence...

[Toxicity]

Spanish team will win by 10+ points. There's only one Slovenia... :D

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Spanish team will win by 10+ points. There's only one Slovenia... :D

Yeah, as there was only one France and Australia... :D

[obe31]

Greece - Spain is the first match ? During the whole tournament Spain was playing at 9:30 and now they 'll play the first match ? Man that's ridiculous. Normally the winner of the last quarter should play last. Spanish mafia ?
:confused:
Who cares man...We have limped to the semis what more do you want from them? They are not in shape. Even when they were we lost last year easily. We can say many things about why and how we are going to beat Spain but if we are going to be objective (difficult after a game like the one today) Spain plays much much better than us. In the semis its Spain (we lost), Russia (we lost) Lithuania (we haven't played). Hm... We lost from all the teams that we have played in this tournament and are in the semifinals. lol!

[Juan Carlos Nadal]

Agreed that the timing of the first semi is to say the least unacceptable. I am not saying it was intentional, but it is far from fair.

[SergioRodriguez]

The time of the Spain-Greece game it's because TV rights.
La Sexta has tv rights of the Eurobasket in Spain and they also have the rights of La Liga.
They always air one game on Saturdays at 22:00 h, and tomorrow it isn't an exception. So if the Spanish-Greece was at 21:30 h. la Sexta wouldn't have aired it on live.
Football is the king here.

[Genjuro]

About the schedule:

- Spain has a better schedule day-wise because they qualifyed first in their group. Had Greece finished in the top-2, they would have enjoyed a rest day before the semis, just as Spain or Russia. So there's no reason for you guys to complain here.

- As for the hour of the semifinals, it's a f***ed situation for Greece, but it was not intended. The hour when Spain plays is decided by the Spanish TV (the local TV almost always has priority in these events). La Sexta has the rights of the Spanish football league, and there's a game tomorrow at half past nine or something like that, so they opted to schedule the Spanish game first and broadcast the other semifinal delayed at mid-night. Bad luck guys, but again, it was not on purpose.

[DrGonzo]

Giannakis said in the Greek press when asked about the game time, ''i dont care, lets play at 8 o clock in the morning''. Thats the spirit!!!! Bring it on Spaniards...

[elaj]

I voted for Spain because I believe they are better.

[estanis]

Giannakis said in the Greek press when asked about the game time, ''i dont care, lets play at 8 o clock in the morning''. Thats the spirit!!!! Bring it on Spaniards...

WOW is that is true that man is my hero:cool: .That is the way i like ,no crying no shit ..just big balls and lets play it.

[DeusEx]

i know that spain is the favorite here. And i voted for greece because i will be rooting for you guys tomorrow. I want greece to win -_-.

[T.W.Is.M.]

Is there such thing as a prediction when Greece plays?After what I saw tonight, I will not predict anything as far as Greece is concerned.I am convinced that this team is out of shape, they underachieve constantly from the beginning of this tournament, but they steal games when everything seems against them.
Spain plays way better in this tournament.They have one more day of rest.They r playing at home.They have beaten us easily twice in the last 2 matches.
So what?Do all these mean we r gonna lose?No way!There is no team with more confidence than Greece right now.These guys believed in themselves and their abilities from the beginning.They won't quit, but they will fight till the end, even if everybody think there is no chance.Spain may b superior in talent and athletic skill, but Greece is superior at heart, winning spirit and mentality.

[billotos]

i know that spain is the favorite here. And i voted for greece because i will be rooting for you guys tomorrow. I want greece to win -_-.


we will be easier to win fom lithuania..

now i think spain will win tomorrow but it wont be easy..

[panayio]

If all of you believe that we , the greek fans of basketball , will feel unhappy if our team loses tomorrow then you all are wrong. We love our team and we are proud of these guys . I don't care for tomorrow I want my team to play with passion . And if we pass Spain nothing can stop this team.....

[achinet]

Greece - Spain is the first match ? During the whole tournament Spain was playing at 9:30 and now they 'll play the first match ? Man that's ridiculous. Normally the winner of the last quarter should play last. Spanish mafia ?
:confused:

The games were previous taken. if you had been first, then you would be those that were rested. That is not mafia, that is logic.

[T.W.Is.M.]

One more thing, especially 4 the greeks around here:I believe it's wrong 2 say "I don't care what happens against Spain".Of course we care, of course we want our team 2 win.The team didn't travel 2 Spain 2 win a quarterfinal.Until we lose we r still the european champions, so we aim at victory in every match.Now the team is not in shape, the opponent is strong, so we r considered underdogs.Sure, we may lose and if that happens, we'll b sad about it.But what we will not do is turn against this team and b ungrateful 4 all the joy this team has given us in the last 3 years.
The tournament hasn't ended yet, it ends on Sunday and we still have 2 more games left.

[achinet]

Are you sure that tomorow is going to be a hard game for both teams. There are 2 games left and all are going to give the rest. Don't look back to thous last games between Spain and Grece, this is a new one.

[T.W.Is.M.]

The games were previous taken. if you had been first, then you would be those that were rested. That is not mafia, that is logic.

Like Lithuania 4 example?
The problem wasn't that Greece doesn't have a day off before the semi, but that we played tonight at 21.30(local) and tomorrow at 19.00(local).It would b more fair if the teams that face each other in each semifinal played their respective quarterfinals at the same day.

[achinet]

Like Lithuania 4 example?
The problem wasn't that Greece doesn't have a day off before the semi, but that we played tonight at 21.30(local) and tomorrow at 19.00(local).It would b more fair if the teams that face each other in each semifinal played their respective quarterfinals at the same day.

Thats true, but I only said that is not Spanish mafia, it was only drawing and tv rights.

[T.W.Is.M.]

Thats true, but I only said that is not Spanish mafia, it was only drawing and tv rights.

I don't call it spanish mafia, it's just a bit unfair 4 Greece and Lithuania.But that's no excuse 4 these two teams in case of a loss.

[sprewell]

Big match. Difficult to predict. But its obvious that Spain has the talent as well as the stress. 1. From their own crowd 2. From what they saw tonight :D :D 3. The "favorites":p .

On the other hand Greece has nothing to lose and you know what this means :rolleyes:

Sooo..lets see.Good luck ;) 1 vote for Greece.


P.S. An easy personal prediction.Spain will shoot 35-37 3points :p From them 9-10 will be in.

P.S. 4.The cousin of Pini :p ;) (Stressed taverniaris)

Gossip: Papadopoulos saw Twism hookshots on DVD. He is trying to master the technique to face Gasol :p The answer tomorrow...

[T.W.Is.M.]

Big match. Difficult to predict. But its obvious that Spain has the talent as well as the stress. 1. From their own crowd 2. From what they saw tonight :D :D 3. The "favorites":p .

On the other hand Greece has nothing to lose and you know what this means :rolleyes:

Sooo..lets see.Good luck ;) 1 vote for Greece.


P.S. An easy personal prediction.Spain will shoot 35-37 3points :p From them 9-10 will be in.

P.S. 4.The cousin of Pini :p ;) (Stressed taverniaris)

Gossip: Papadopoulos saw Twism hookshots on DVD. He is trying to master the technique to face Gasol :p The answer tomorrow...

1)Papadopoulos can't copy my hookshots!
2)A difficult personal prediction:Greece will shoot 20+ 3p shots with ~50%!
3)I'm curious 2 c how will Ispanoulis play against Spain(Ispanoulis=little Spanish):p
4)Imagine this:Spain leads by 20 5 minutes left.Greece makes a 8-0 run and 3 mins before the end the difference is cut to 12.I wouldn't like 2 b a Spaniard then...;)

[achinet]

Gossip: Papadopoulos saw Twism hookshots on DVD. He is trying to master the technique to face Gasol :p The answer tomorrow...

No, Papadopoulos is going to have a deliberate bad game, he will want to do a favor his future captain (Felipe Reyes :D ;) )

[sprewell]

Thats true, but I only said that is not Spanish mafia, it was only drawing and tv rights.

Yeah...Osasuna-Barcelona tv rights®...:p ;)

[achinet]

Yeah...Osasuna-Barcelona tv rights®...:p ;)

Yes, and here are going to show Lithuania Russian in differed.:mad:

[sprewell]

Yes, and here are going to show Lithuania Russian in differed.:mad:

Tiki taka situations :D ;)

[Straight forward]

Greece has no chance. I'm saying this after the game with Slovenia. I thought maybe i will see something new, well i didn't. Only Slovenia can blame them selfs...Maybe Greece has some balls to fight, but it will not enough with Spain. I see the victory of Spain by 15p or more.

[sprewell]

I'm curious 2 c how will Ispanoulis play against Spain(Ispanoulis=little Spanish):p


I hope better than Rudy for his own good :mad: coz so far he is sooooooooooooooo tragic, pathetic, savorless, colorless, odorless and much more in less...:mad:

[sprewell]

Greece has no chance. I'm saying this after the game with Slovenia. I thought maybe i will see something new, well i didn't. Only Slovenia can blame them selfs...Maybe Greece has some balls to fight, but it will not enough with Spain. I see the victory of Spain by 15p or more.

it cant be coz 16 points for spain is +1 for Greece:p

Now seriously, we cant play worse so expect a big match. ;)

[macedonia]

just enjoy the game guys no matter who will win :)

[wardjdim]

Well, the time of the game proves how bad things in Europe still are with football. Unfortunately, one local league game is considered more important than the Eurobasket semifinals, money-wise, even with Spanish playing...


Returning to the game, the Greeks are the only team that has a chance to beat Spain in this tournament (not necessarily being the best team, but still, they have chances, while Lithuania and Russia simply don't) in a knock out game. Even at home, even while being tired, the Greeks proved against Slovenia that if they manage to stay close until the last 5', then they become the game favorites.

But this Spanish team is simply looking unbeatable. Although they don't have a guy like Papaloukas, who is arguably the best winner you will find, they have such a balance, such a chemistry. Greece can still beat them, with a perfect game both sides, but they will need to quit slow pace and try to play as they did last summer, against the U.S. Run, create, quit individual, strong, post game. Take advantage of Diamantidis and Papaloukas.

If they do so, then the game is 60-40 for Germany. If not, it's already over...

[toxmarius]

Returning to the game, the Greeks are the only team that has a chance to beat Spain in this tournament (not necessarily being the best team, but still, they have chances, while Lithuania and Russia simply don't) in a knock out game.



Strange remark :) Just becouse of a complete luck against slovenians you think that greece is better then those two teams at endings? Spain is much more experienced team and will not let anything like this happen in case of equal game.

Anyway i'll root to Greece, i think everyone will, as we always support teams which are less strong but with bigger heart and attitude to basketball.

[macedonia]

it's yannaki's fault...he has changed his strategy because of team's absences..
but today greece show us that has no probs playing the same old team strategy...

again yannakis seems to be a little anxious about ...
watch this http://fileriseurobasket.yooblog.gr/2007/09/13/65/ :confused:

[DeusEx]

Well, the time of the game proves how bad things in Europe still are with football. Unfortunately, one local league game is considered more important than the Eurobasket semifinals, money-wise, even with Spanish playing...


Returning to the game, the Greeks are the only team that has a chance to beat Spain in this tournament (not necessarily being the best team, but still, they have chances, while Lithuania and Russia simply don't) in a knock out game. Even at home, even while being tired, the Greeks proved against Slovenia that if they manage to stay close until the last 5', then they become the game favorites.

But this Spanish team is simply looking unbeatable. Although they don't have a guy like Papaloukas, who is arguably the best winner you will find, they have such a balance, such a chemistry. Greece can still beat them, with a perfect game both sides, but they will need to quit slow pace and try to play as they did last summer, against the U.S. Run, create, quit individual, strong, post game. Take advantage of Diamantidis and Papaloukas.

If they do so, then the game is 60-40 for Germany. If not, it's already over...

so why do liths have no chance again ? they did it in 2003... Im not saying they will win, but i want to know why you think they wont.

[kestas]

if we play as we did in the last 3 mins with Slovenia we have many hopes.

unfortunately, it's plausible you'll be down by 25 with 3 minutes remaining, so you'll have to play twice as good as against Slovenia.
But you can certainly do it, just don't let them run away by more thant 30 by the end - then you would probably lose by 5 ;)
seriously, what's up with this Greek team.. we know hystory only remembers results, but I suspect we all expected much better game from Greece in this tournament.. although crunch-time play is going pretty well.. anyways, you can hardly expect much better from Spain, they're favourites, but who knows..

[Samuel]

I also wish Greece to play like in the last minutes against Slovenia, no matter if that means more chances for them to win. First of all I like basketball, and the first 30 minutes of yesterday's game were so boooooring...

[Afraid]

Well, the time of the game proves how bad things in Europe still are with football. Unfortunately, one local league game is considered more important than the Eurobasket semifinals, money-wise, even with Spanish playing...


Returning to the game, the Greeks are the only team that has a chance to beat Spain in this tournament (not necessarily being the best team, but still, they have chances, while Lithuania and Russia simply don't) in a knock out game. Even at home, even while being tired, the Greeks proved against Slovenia that if they manage to stay close until the last 5', then they become the game favorites.

But this Spanish team is simply looking unbeatable. Although they don't have a guy like Papaloukas, who is arguably the best winner you will find, they have such a balance, such a chemistry. Greece can still beat them, with a perfect game both sides, but they will need to quit slow pace and try to play as they did last summer, against the U.S. Run, create, quit individual, strong, post game. Take advantage of Diamantidis and Papaloukas.

If they do so, then the game is 60-40 for Germany. If not, it's already over...
One game-one chance

[KONSTANTINE]

what its wrong with yannakis.he has the best guards in the tournament and instead of running they play slow game with passes to papadopulos,and in 23sec shots.
with that defence,this team should play in 15 sec in offence(more shots:cool: )
i hope he wakes up against spain

[wardjdim]

so why do liths have no chance again ? they did it in 2003... Im not saying they will win, but i want to know why you think they wont.
Because they can't stop the Spanish rotation. And because their defense is obviously worse than the Spanish one. And because Calderon can stop Saras, but Saras can't stop Calderon.

On the other hand, when the game is in the line, you are also favorites against Spain (most of the teams are). The issue is that I can't see the game reaching crunch-time with Lithuania, but I see it being possible for Greece and that's why they have chances.

[Afraid]

Because they can't stop the Spanish rotation. And because their defense is obviously worse than the Spanish one. And because Calderon can stop Saras, but Saras can't stop Calderon.

On the other hand, when the game is in the line, you are also favorites against Spain (most of the teams are). The issue is that I can't see the game reaching crunch-time with Lithuania, but I see it being possible for Greece and that's why they have chances.
if you dont see, i do. you have very good eyesight if you can see this after last game between Hellas and Espana.

Siskauskas or Kaukenas can stop Calderon, and Saras can be stopped, but he also can explode, and then nobody can stop him. And i think this is objective. Anyway Greece didnt lost semis yet, and Lithuania didnt won, so final is not clear, it might be we wont need to play against Espana at all

[DrGonzo]

Greece has no chance. I'm saying this after the game with Slovenia. Only Slovenia can blame them selfs...Maybe Greece has some balls to fight,
Maybe? Maybe Greece has some balls to fight?Give me a percentage( % ) , a number translating that ''maybe'', man! Also, give a number for ''some balls'' 2,3,4, 15,67,8946 balls??? How many is enough for you man???!!!After all, bball is also a game of numbers and mathematics, no?
Greece has a chance. Its a semifinal, in case you dont remember, for pits sake!Be careful now. I am not saying that we will definately win this, but hey, we got more than a chance...Why this attitude man?
Greek NT is notorius for turning around games which seem to be lost. Semis with France in Belgrade 2005, Australia in Mundobasket 2006, hell, now i come to think of it, Lithuania in Mundobasket (you guys lost in extra time if memory serves), against Groatia, against Slovenia, i mean come on...

[estanis]

....oh my god i cant wait:
we will crush them again after just 1 week ?
we will go over this 76 - 58 ?
too many question to handle!!!!

[Afraid]

Maybe? Maybe Greece has some balls to fight?Give me a percentage( % ) , a number translating that ''maybe'', man! Also, give a number for ''some balls'' 2,3,4, 15,67,8946 balls??? How many is enough for you man???!!!After all, bball is also a game of numbers and mathematics, no?
Greece has a chance. Its a semifinal, in case you dont remember, for pits sake!Be careful now. I am not saying that we will definately win this, but hey, we got more than a chance...Why this attitude man?
Greek NT is notorius for turning around games which seem to be lost. Semis with France in Belgrade 2005, Australia in Mundobasket 2006, hell, now i come to think of it, Lithuania in Mundobasket (you guys lost in extra time if memory serves), against Groatia, against Slovenia, i mean come on...
if everything is normal with Hellas's player they should have 24 balls :D and tonight we should see fight 24 balls vs 24 balls if everything is good with Espana's team also :D

[CG]

some more problems for greek team.except that they must give 2 games in less than a day after an exhausted match and the known quality of spain,Diamantidis is putting ice in his leg which according to ERA SPORT this is a sign of exhaustion (as a matter of fact they say he is in the limits of being injured cause of this) while Zisis is ill with fever.dont forget that yesterday Papaloukas,Zisis and Papadopoulos was poisoning.Especially Papadopoulos didnt take part in training...



....oh my god i cant wait:
we will crush them again after just 1 week ?
we will go over this 76 - 58 ?
too many question to handle!!!!


and if you crush them so what;with the nice schedule you put and the problems of the greek NT do you think you will do such a significant thing;

[DrGonzo]

if everything is normal with Hellas's player they should have 24 balls :D and tonight we should see fight 24 balls vs 24 balls if everything is good with Espana's team also :D
Tell that to Str8 forward ;)

[Afraid]

Tell that to Str8 forward ;)
he know :D

Guys, stop predicting, and start thinking who has additional balls to win this game :D

[Straight forward]

Maybe? Maybe Greece has some balls to fight?Give me a percentage( % ) , a number translating that ''maybe'', man! Also, give a number for ''some balls'' 2,3,4, 15,67,8946 balls??? How many is enough for you man???!!!After all, bball is also a game of numbers and mathematics, no?
Greece has a chance. Its a semifinal, in case you dont remember, for pits sake!Be careful now. I am not saying that we will definately win this, but hey, we got more than a chance...Why this attitude man?
Greek NT is notorius for turning around games which seem to be lost. Semis with France in Belgrade 2005, Australia in Mundobasket 2006, hell, now i come to think of it, Lithuania in Mundobasket (you guys lost in extra time if memory serves), against Groatia, against Slovenia, i mean come on...

This is only prediction. But you are the one who is too much confident about your Team after 7 games.., and i'm not underestimate your team. I could say, yes there is a chance, but if i would say so- there wouldn't be any point to rank other games cause the differences between them is less obvious. But i got your idea, bball is unpredictable, you still have some hope. maybe this will be the black day for Spain. But if they'll play just like they usually do...

[Genjuro]

Like Lithuania 4 example?
The problem wasn't that Greece doesn't have a day off before the semi, but that we played tonight at 21.30(local) and tomorrow at 19.00(local).It would b more fair if the teams that face each other in each semifinal played their respective quarterfinals at the same day.
Lithuania can complain. Their group was set from the begining so the first two teams wouldn't have a rest day from quarterfinals to semifinals. But Greece was favoured by the Spanish-oriented schedule because both teams shared group in the qualifying round.

By the way, I personally think Lithuania has more options to beat Spain than Greece. They obviously have a much better offensive game to overcome the Spanish defense, while not even the Greek excellent defense can completely dry the Spanish production. I mean, there's no way Spain scores under 70 points regardless how the game is played. I do believe more in an offensive outburst by Lithuania (perhaps with some kind of relative Spanish collapse involved while handling the pressure) rather than in a dramatic change of style by Greece.

[greek-legacy]

The Greek Holy National Basketball Team is capable of winning this tournament withought playing a single good match.What this shows?

That we are the best, we are really strong.Greece played so far 40%.Tonight needs 80% of its capabilities.The 100% was against the U.S.Something to the Spanish..Your team is really good,but you will never approach the character of the Greek team,because they are the best of the best.IT IS A HOLY TEAM!

[obe31]

The Greek Holy National Basketball Team is capable of winning this tournament withought playing a single good match.What this shows?

That we are the best, we are really strong.Greece played so far 40%.Tonight needs 80% of its capabilities.The 100% was against the U.S.Something to the Spanish..Your team is really good,but you will never approach the character of the Greek team,because they are the best of the best.IT IS A HOLY TEAM!
Stop taking drugs that are out of date they get on your head. What are you anyway, a monk in Agio Oros?

[softice]

The Greek Holy National Basketball Team is capable of winning this tournament withought playing a single good match.What this shows?

That we are the best, we are really strong.Greece played so far 40%.Tonight needs 80% of its capabilities.The 100% was against the U.S.Something to the Spanish..Your team is really good,but you will never approach the character of the Greek team,because they are the best of the best.IT IS A HOLY TEAM!

If you want to find something HOLY go to a church and stop writing nonsense here please

[obe31]

If you want to find something HOLY go to a church and stop writing nonsense here please
Thank you! I thought it was just me getting upset with this holy crap!

[FRANKY 13]

Spain is the clear favorite in a game that against all odds, promises to
the basketball fans around the globe amazing action and suspense. Let's see
if it will keep its promises and send us fans to basketball heaven. After all that is the reason why we all love this game. Against all odds the game can provide us some great basketball action because if Spain is a wonderful basketball team full of talent that is not afraid of anyone, enjoying all its superstars and the homecourt advantage, Greece is a different story in this EC.

The team had already challenged all natural laws and overcome the biggest obstacles before this tournament already. But this time things were even worse: They were missing two of their key elements (do I even need to mention them?). A group that relies on its exemplar team play rather than its (top) quality individuals had to face a huge substantial loss: The one of the player who arguably is its best finisher, the offensive versatility of whom the team simply could not replace. Yes, Fotsis is not as good as Garbajosa. But he is the hell of a player too, and his fundamental importance for the team is now beyond any doubt. He is as important as Jorge is for the Spanish team, if not more. The loss of Sofo was far less vital, but still it does represent the lack of a huge possible bonus, mainly in offense.

Given the impossibility of the team to adjust to Fotsis' key loss in less than a week, which is totally understandable as most of the team's offensive systems included him, the Greek team seemed confused, slower than usual and unefficient in offense (the defense did never rely on Antonis and it was great anyway). And this probably will cost them. It already cost them the good level of their offensive play. Even so however, this team did not disappoint its fans. It fought in order to fill the gaps and its heart proved to be enough so far.

Before this big European semifinal, I'd like to thank them for their commitment
and sense of responsability. Because the European champion has to defend his title no matter what until the end. That is what turns a very good team into a great one. I had already emphasized the fact that anything beyond the
quaterfinals would be a considerable success for the Greek team. I'd like to stick to that opinion. I'm sure we are going to witness a huge game tonight. I could be wrong, but again nobody in here wishes me to be I presume. (fair) Battle is one of the most beautiful aspects of the game after all.

ps. I purposely did not analyze the purely technical aspects of todays game as it seems obvious that Spain has almost all the advantages in this matter. Lets see if Greece's heart and psychological balance can multiply the very few ones they have and make out of this game a real semifinal. I believe in them.:cool:

[T.W.Is.M.]

This is only prediction. But you are the one who is too much confident about your Team after 7 games.., and i'm not underestimate your team. I could say, yes there is a chance, but if i would say so- there wouldn't be any point to rank other games cause the differences between them is less obvious. But i got your idea, bball is unpredictable, you still have some hope. maybe this will be the black day for Spain. But if they'll play just like they usually do...

then if any opponent plays as they usually do, they should smash us.wonder why they all usually fail 2 do it...
btw I remembered some of your posts about Papaloukas a few months ago in the EL threads.comparing them with what he did yesterday(and not only yesterday) I can understand your frustration about our victory...:cool:

[IceMan]

Holly Team or not I start to believe that the Greek team is on the payrole from tranquilizer drug industry..

For the game 2nite .. most of the scenarios are of the kind one would not want to think about, if Greek. Spain has shown so much quality and talent on the court that looks almost invincible..

Still I really long for this single great game from our team of great fighters event if we need pills to get through and recover..

I aggree with people saying that the team has not played a good tournament compared to Japan especially and sometimes watching some of the games has been painfull. Slovenja .. Oh my God .. I had stopped watching the game .. and only by chance I turned on the tele to check what was happening so that I managed not to lose the last crazy mins.. and lots of Greeks did that same or even missed the whole thing..

Still there was a time in the past that a Greek NT would lose games rightfully won.. now is vice versa.. this says a lot abt the ability and the character of this team!

I see them playing with passion and dedication for yet another summer playing all the games that can be played in each tournament and feels impossible to blame them in any way. But also feel they (and we watching them) deserve to have a game played without stress in an open court showing quality as with US last year.. Difficult as things look at the moment but hope it is this one :)

More because we love basketball and we love to see great games :)


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Timeo Danos et dona eis ferentes

[Afraid]

The Greek Holy National Basketball Team is capable of winning this tournament withought playing a single good match.What this shows?

That we are the best, we are really strong.Greece played so far 40%.Tonight needs 80% of its capabilities.The 100% was against the U.S.Something to the Spanish..Your team is really good,but you will never approach the character of the Greek team,because they are the best of the best.IT IS A HOLY TEAM!

what kind of sect is this?:rolleyes:
you were the one who screamed for respect to Hellas team (they are woth respect, sure), but youre not the one who like to show it for others?

[KONSTANTINE]

OMG!!
did you notice the last basket of papaloukas?.the ball got into and the time stopped in 6.66".
i'm starting to believe that this team is BLESSED but the question is by WHO!!!

"HELL-as " as the name indicates:eek:

[softice]

OMG!!
did you notice the last basket of papaloukas?.the ball got into and the time stopped in 6.66".
i'm starting to believe that this team is BLESSED but the question is by WHO!!!

"HELL-as " as the name indicates:eek:

Yeah when i heard "six and sixty six left" i knew that we won already :)

[Straight forward]

then if any opponent plays as they usually do, they should smash us.wonder why they all usually fail 2 do it...
btw I remembered some of your posts about Papaloukas a few months ago in the EL threads.comparing them with what he did yesterday(and not only yesterday) I can understand your frustration about our victory...:cool:

Didn't you forgot the game Spain- Greece in this Eurobasket? :p Were was your Papaloukas and unbeatable defence? Yes, it's semi-final, but all chances lay in Spain pocket.

[Picek]

OMG!!
did you notice the last basket of papaloukas?.the ball got into and the time stopped in 6.66".
i'm starting to believe that this team is BLESSED but the question is by WHO!!!

"HELL-as " as the name indicates:eek:lol :D nice

[tiro1]

Straight forward, dont be so scared. Maybe Spain can make it to the final.

:cool:



p.s Lets see you take on the Russians first.

[T.W.Is.M.]

Didn't you forgot the game Spain- Greece in this Eurobasket? :p Were was your Papaloukas and unbeatable defence? Yes, it's semi-final, but all chances lay in Spain pocket.

That's why I said "usually".But again, don't b so afraid.Spain has many chances 2 win and qualify.Oh yes, I forgot that u also play against Russia.No problem though, u probably have already forgotten it too, because u keep posting about Greece.:p

[Mirza Delibasic]

Allways for outsider
C'mon HELLAS

[L8DBACK]

Yeah I'm good comedian!!! :p
Btw I overeact. Yeah we cannot win EASILY the Spanish team, but if we play as we did in the last 3 mins with Slovenia we have many hopes. And I can't understand why there are still people who think that Spanish defence is better than the Greek defence...

The difference is Spain has home court advantage. Your "IF" and "MANY HOPES" sounds like you know that Spain will win in the Semi-finals.:(

[Pinone]

The only true thing, my friends: One match+Two good teams=50-50 chances.

I really like greeks players, but I hate the style that giannakis make them play. So, for the good of the sport and the greek team I want Spain to win! :D :D :D

[Joyrider]

@StraightForward

After reading all of your posts in Greece- Slovenia and Greece - Spain(current) threads ...

Your whole attitude reminds me of a liitle child that's got his ass beaten and yelling:" My dad(Spain) will show you tonight!!!":D :D

[KONSTANTINE]

@StraightForward

After reading all of your posts in Greece- Slovenia and Greece - Spain(current) threads ...

Your whole attitude reminds me of a liitle child that's got his ass beaten and yelling:" My dad(Spain) will show you tonight!!!":D :D



THUMPS UP:D :D

[toxmarius]

That's why I said "usually".But again, don't b so afraid.Spain has many chances 2 win and qualify.Oh yes, I forgot that u also play against Russia.No problem though, u probably have already forgotten it too, because u keep posting about Greece.:p

No we didn't :) I noticed one thing, that whatever is thread about, lith and greece fans are activlly discussing, praising their teams and etc.. I think that it has something to do with liths and greece playing at the final ;)

[Straight forward]

@StraightForward

After reading all of your posts in Greece- Slovenia and Greece - Spain(current) threads ...

Your whole attitude reminds me of a liitle child that's got his ass beaten and yelling:" My dad(Spain) will show you tonight!!!":D :D

A come on! Even if it would be so, i'm the one who fights for the true and justice :D

[EverGreen]

For me, Greece won the Eurobasket yesterday.

I'm not really stressed about this game.

Spain are big, big favorites with a better team but Greece has the never say die attitude.

[HIGHLANDER]

Spain are a fine basketball team who have players in every department.
Greece should potencially be the team who gives them the best game..
Maybe tonight they can start there best form, all be it would have to be for the entire match, and a bit extra and a bit of luck..:cool:

[toxmarius]

A come on! Even if it would be so, i'm the one who fights for the true and justice :D

you have the point, Afterall it is discution board, not "lets praise other teams" thing, all opinions should be welcome..

[EverGreen]

Spain are a fine basketball team who have players in every department.
Greece should potencially be the team who gives them the best game..
Maybe tonight they can start there best form, all be it would have to be for the entire match, and a bit extra and a bit of luck..:cool:

My "shcootish meit" (glaswegian acsent : ), there is no such thing as luck or jinx. You either have the mentality and clarity of mind or you don't. :cool:

[Afraid]

now please, no offence greece fans, but tell me one thing, if you all (90 percents of posters in thread abt that game) believed in your teams victory against slovenia, and you were sure that team can play best when it needs, and that papaloukas will show for everyone, who the boss is when hell need to take his team trough quater-finals, and some of You believe that this team is holy, why you (I remember 3) TURNED YOUR TV's OFF AT THE END? and now you are saying that you STARTING to believe in this team? i think even i am better fan of greece than you are. "fans".

[softice]

now please, no offence greece fans, but tell me one thing, if you all (90 percents of posters in thread abt that game) believed in your teams victory against slovenia, and you were sure that team can play best when it needs, and that papaloukas will show for everyone, who the boss is when hell need to take his team trough quater-finals, and some of You believe that this team is holy, why you (I remember 3) TURNED YOUR TV's OFF AT THE END? and now you are saying that you STARTING to believe in this team? i think even i am better fan of greece than you are. "fans".

Wow. the next 3 days i will bring all Lithuania posts in forum to prove that some fans has different opinions from others and that means ........means what? what is your point again?

[Afraid]

Wow. the next 3 days i will bring all Lithuania posts in forum to prove that some fans has different opinions from others and that means ........means what? what is your point again?

You are acting real fans, and that you surely win tha game (except few poster who said that it will be hard game), but somewhy these great "fans" turned of tv during tha game. My point - can these ppl were called FANS??

[Afraid]

I personally didn't close my TV but I can understand one who did that. It would be very hard and heart-breaking to see our team loosing that game. All Greek fans believed that we were going to loose when we were +16 points behind. And that's why this comeback is incredible. No one believed it. :)

Here's your answer.

no ones believed it?? :D there is full thread of posters who believed it before the game, stopped believeng during the game, and started believe again, when the game was over :D

[Jan van Grabski]

You are acting real fans, and that you surely win tha game (except few poster who said that it will be hard game), but somewhy these great "fans" turned of tv during tha game. My point - can these ppl were called FANS??

lol. why not ? maybe they simply have heart problems and can't handle stressfull situations. :rolleyes: i dont actually see your point. Myself, i do that sometimes as well...i turn the TV off and then turn it on towards the end of the game, but even if i do that i still deep in my heart believe that our team can come back, that they will not give up.


p.s. i voted for greece. so dont prove me wrong :D

[Afraid]

lol. why not ? maybe they simply have heart problems and can't handle stressfull situations. :rolleyes: i dont actually see your point. Myself, i do that sometimes as well...i turn the TV off and then turn it on towards the end of the game, but even if i do that i still deep in my heart believe that our team can come back, that they will not give up.


p.s. i voted for greece. so dont prove me wrong :D

yes, but theres different when you believe in your team and still whatching tv, turning of tv is sth like facing the loss, and then you just turn on tv to know the final result? ah. whatever if all "fans" are like this..

you cant even finish whaching the game due to respect for your team... :(

[T.W.Is.M.]

No we didn't :) I noticed one thing, that whatever is thread about, lith and greece fans are activlly discussing, praising their teams and etc.. I think that it has something to do with liths and greece playing at the final ;)

I didn't refer 2 all Lithuanians, only 2 Straight_forward.He seems more active in the Spain-Greece thread than the Lithuania-Russia one!

[greek-legacy]

Today's game will be based on one key factor.
Players from bench will give the game.Not Gasol,not Navarro,not Garbajosa,not Calderon,not Diamantidis,Papadopoulos,Spanoulis.
Greece has made plans against Spain, so does Spain against Greece.These players will be very good closed.The game will be an until death game, and less key players will take the game.I hope that the heart of the Euro champs will talk once again but I admit that Spain is very strong and the only that can be compared to Greece.

P.S only one key player will shine.Papaloukas!

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Today's game will be based on one key factor.
Players from bench will give the game.Not Gasol,not Navarro,not Garbajosa,not Calderon,not Diamantidis,Papadopoulos,Spanoulis.
Greece has made plans against Spain, so does Spain against Greece.These players will be very good closed.The game will be an until death game, and less key players will take the game.I hope that the heart of the Euro champs will talk once again but I admit that Spain is very strong and the only that can be compared to Greece.

P.S only one key player will shine.Papaloukas!

Vasilopoulos MUST play as Power Forward up to Garbajosa or Reyes. He will "dissapear" them as he did yesterday in the last 3 mins with Smontis. ;)
And yeah, Papaloukas must play well tonight.

[KONSTANTINE]

Today's game will be based on one key factor.
Players from bench will give the game.Not Gasol,not Navarro,not Garbajosa,not Calderon,not Diamantidis,Papadopoulos,Spanoulis.
Greece has made plans against Spain, so does Spain against Greece.These players will be very good closed.The game will be an until death game, and less key players will take the game.I hope that the heart of the Euro champs will talk once again but I admit that Spain is very strong and the only that can be compared to Greece.

P.S only one key player will shine.Papaloukas!



stop writing crap..ok?
something else.the way you are witing it seems that ur making a prophesy and know what will happen:D

[Afraid]

Today's game will be based on one key factor.
Players from bench will give the game.Not Gasol,not Navarro,not Garbajosa,not Calderon,not Diamantidis,Papadopoulos,Spanoulis.
Greece has made plans against Spain, so does Spain against Greece.These players will be very good closed.The game will be an until death game, and less key players will take the game.I hope that the heart of the Euro champs will talk once again but I admit that Spain is very strong and the only that can be compared to Greece.

P.S only one key player will shine.Papaloukas!
when i will die?

[softice]

no ones believed it?? :D there is full thread of posters who believed it before the game, stopped believeng during the game, and started believe again, when the game was over :D

Look i don't want to defend peolpe who said about "HOLY crap" and other nonsense here but its quite simple to understand that:
Greece have lost 2 games, won 2 games by comeback and we didn't played good basketball till today.
Its absolutely logical to read different opinions after those games and those results. In this time Lithuania is unbeatable and its logical to read almost same opinions from our friends.
Comparing Greek posts and Lithuanian posts in this eurobasket to judge who is real fan and who is not doesn't make sense to me.

[reignman]

vasilopoulos can defend perfectly power forwards that tend to play far from the basket. like smodis , garbajosa etc... he will fail if he defend players like reyes :s

[Afraid]

Look i don't want to defend peolpe who said about "HOLY crap" and other nonsense here but its quite simple to understand that:
Greece have lost 2 games, won 2 games by comeback and we didn't played good basketball till today.
Its absolutely logical to read different opinions after those games and those results. In this time Lithuania is unbeatable and its logical to read almost same opinions from our friends.
Comparing Greek posts and Lithuanian posts in this eurobasket to judge who is real fan and who is not doesn't make sense to me.
does it make sense to you saying how deep you believe in your team, and then turn of tv? i didnt say that lithuanians are real fans, and compered them to myself, not with all of them. its make sanse to me, and its sad to hear that it doesnt make any sense to you.

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

vasilopoulos can defend perfectly power forwards that tend to play far from the basket. like smodis , garbajosa etc... he will fail if he defend players like reyes :s

Yeah but Reyes can play as power forward too especially when Gasol is in the court. He must learn to play defence against all the types of power forwards. ;)

[fasoulaki]

We(The Greeks) have nothing to loose tonight, because it is impossible for us to win and therefor we will take the victory.

Sounds locigal, right? :D

[T.W.Is.M.]

Why doesn't anyone say that we will smash them???Where is our traditional greek exaggeration and over-confidence?This is our sign of good luck!Since nobody says that, I will!
We will smash them tonight!!!:D :D :D

[fasoulaki]

Why doesn't anyone say that we will smash them???Where is our traditional greek exaggeration and over-confidence?This is our sign of good luck!Since nobody says that, I will!
We will smash them tonight!!!:D :D :D

Or to quote our beloved friend Darko "We will destroy them all at eurobasket" :D

[softice]

does it make sense to you saying how deep you believe in your team, and then turn of tv? i didnt say that lithuanians are real fans, and compered them to myself, not with all of them. its make sanse to me, and its sad to hear that it doesnt make any sense to you.

So a real fan is a person who thinks that his team will win always and for ever till the end of days?
Ok then, i am not a real fan.

*And i never closed my TV. As i said i don't want to defend other people's posts and actions.
My prediction for today Spain-Greece 1 (+16)

[Turkish Airlines Euroleague]

Why doesn't anyone say that we will smash them???Where is our traditional greek exaggeration and over-confidence?This is our sign of good luck!Since nobody says that, I will!
We will smash them tonight!!!:D :D :D

Check the second post of this thread!!! :D

[Captain CAAAVEMAAAAANNN!!]

I fancy Greece’s chances here. See, they have been accused of stealing games from teams that couldn’t handle the pressure as the clock ticked down. Well, today they face a team that really has something to lose. Spain have been considered one of the best teams in the world -if not the best- for a while. Reigning World Champions, they have been crowned with the European title even before the tournament started. The words “invincible” and “best ever” have been heard already. They play at home, the crowd expects them to bring them a trophy Spain has actually never won before.

Well, I would be pressured.

On the other hand, Greece, they are pure confidence right now. Yannakis said before their quarterfinal: “Slovenia is dangerous because they have won close games and winning close games builds confidence.” Well, now it’s the Greeks that are pumped up, they were out of the tourney some hours ago, but now they are in the hunt again, and they have nothing to lose. In the first phase, they still had to prove they were better but accidentaly lost the WC final due to the circumstances.:rolleyes: But after being crushed again, now they acknowledge they are inferior and that plays in their advantage, couse it takes the load off their shoulders and puts it on the Spaniards’. They are the clear underdogs... home court dissadvantage... the excuse of having rested less than the other team... Yes, they have absolutely no pressure. And they come confidence-full after yesterday’s game. So expect them to shoot better, to hustle more and to overachieve in general.

Motivation, self-confidence, anxiety... they say basketball is a game of emotions and I’d say the Greeks are in a good position in that sense right now.

I mean, I don’t know if this Greek team will ever be able to beat this Spanish squad, but if that’s going to happen some day, I bet for today.

[Afraid]

So a real fan is a person who thinks that his team will win always and for ever till the end of days?
Ok then, i am not a real fan.

*And i never closed my TV. As i said i don't want to defend other people's posts and actions.
My prediction for today Spain-Greece 1 (+16)
no, real fan is the one who is with his team and believes in his team till the end of the days. but none of them would have turned tv of, if with 6 minutes left in the game and his team would have advantage +16. the one that was not with the team when it lost, is not worth to be when it won.

[Juan Carlos Nadal]

I don't think one could define what a real fan is. Fans are individuals and may all react in different ways in certain situations. Regardless of whether you believe in your team or not, some people do not have the mental strength to go through the torture of the last minutes (either due to suspense or an upcoming loss). And besides that, being a fan does not mean that one should be blind to the reality. If you are down by 16 with 5 mins to go, logic says you gonna loose...

[Jan van Grabski]

no, real fan is the one who is with his team and believes in his team till the end of the days. but none of them would have turned tv of, if with 6 minutes left in the game and his team would have advantage +16. the one that was not with the team when it lost, is not worth to be when it won.


let me quess, you are <20 years ? because it seems you see the world only in two colors, white and black. i think that real fan should see green as well.:rolleyes: and i believe you are a bit off topic.

[DeusEx]

good luck to greeks... wait not luck i just hope u play like yesterday end of game xD

[Kleber]

Calderon is on fire again.......Greece is playing well so far but Spain is on another level.:(

[KONSTANTINE]

yannakis for gods sake wake up.get this idiot(papadopoulos) out.

[Lietuvis]

Anyone have an online website to watch this game as I cannot find it on tv here?

[Straight forward]

any links of the game on line?

[DanMajerle]

DSF will be broadcasting the second half and Lithuania-Russia game.

[Minotavros]

Like always the Spaniards have an extra push by the refs.

[Captain CAAAVEMAAAAANNN!!]

Like always the Spaniardshave an extra push by the refs.
:rolleyes:

[softice]

1st half, blue team plays basketball white team hit 8 meters shots

[KONSTANTINE]

1st half, blue team plays basketball white team hit 8 meters shots

they are good at three shots and have referees help.NOTHING ELSE
WE HAVE THEM
GO!
KEEP PAPADOPOULOS OUT AND WE' LL WIN

[DeusEx]

great job greeks, show those spaniards. i think greeks are playing great considering all the circumstances. Spanish are over confident to win so lets hope that will be their poison.

Btw it seems refs are helping spain which is pissing me off. im ashamed they from eastern europe. Sorry greeks. t.t

[Javiky]

Like always the Spaniards have an extra push by the refs.
hahaha
funny man. you know what travelling is it? refs don´t know, and blue man (dikoudis in spain, Ntikudis in greece) make a lot.don´t complain for faults, papaloukas is the only in trouble but it have to be more greeks

[Mocho]

A question...what is "playing basketball" for the greeks?like boxing or similar?

[Mocho]

they are good at three shots and have referees help.NOTHING ELSE
WE HAVE THEM
GO!
KEEP PAPADOPOULOS OUT AND WE' LL WIN

Referees help?????????i hope so...but not in the first half

[Petran]

Spain is an amazing team.. They don't need help by the refs.

3 fouls for teo - why?

And their players should stop think that they are a dream team... They are showing off like Calderon is Majic Johnson!

[KlaipedaLT]

Any links to this game online? Sopcast and TVants don't work. :confused:

[Joyrider]

Great game by the Greeks!!!:) :) :)


From Spain, best players so far those little 'grey' guys...:mad: :mad: :mad:

[saras7]

give the cup to spain this referees is incerdible

[KONSTANTINE]

referees 70-30 to spanish.some scandalous whistles

[Trifilli]

It was obvious that Spain could not keep up the crazy shooting percentage for these shots from way beyond the arc. 41-39 is not that bad at halftime, we just need to watch out that Spain doesn't start rolling in the beginning of the 2nd half, they love to do that.
We have 2 major problems so far: Calderon and Gasol. Other than that the D is not too bad (although the rotation is once again too slow) and we're shooting decent on the offensive end as well, although we miss a lot of layups under the rim, also easy ones. Papadopoulos is the best example for that and he was one of the main reasons for the spanish run. It works better so far to play with Dikoudis and Tsartsaris.
Papaloukas 3 fouls could turn out to be a problem, 2 of them were at least questionable, and I hope that he can stay out of foul trouble in the 2nd half.

[DeusEx]

didnt u see who was it, i think navaro or garbajosa who faked a foul. The commentator said he should be given an oscar for it. Stronger team has to act to get false fouls called on the other team ? lawl

[Javiky]

Anyone have an online website to watch this game as I cannot find it on tv here?


any links of the game on line?


balonsexta.com

[reignman]

1st half blue team plays with -1 in every quarter (yes i mean either the "cast away" papadopoulos or the Novel Writer (kakiouzis) .
on the other hand the white team got +3 players and i mean the refs. they SUCK big time. i mean its vomiting.

[Minotavros]

If Giannakis was acting like Pepu Hernandez Greece would have gotten 5-6 technicals. Pepu Hernandez is allowed to do what he want's

[wardjdim]

Very interesting first half.

Greece sees clearly this time. They are mature, they don't go down easily and are really patient offensively. For the first time since the game versus USA last summer, Spanoulis plays well, without rushing, finally doing what the team needs him to. Finish, weigh his shot before taking it and creating for his teammates.

Papaloukas never committed this second foul they charged him for, but, still, his presence gives the Greece the leader they need for this crucial game.

Dikoudis and Tsartsaris are having a very good evening, finishing, without being afraid, without overrating the opponent and by being precise. No second thoughts here again.

Spain is a really talented team, no doubt about that. Calderon is absolutely the tool to dominance, with an astonishing first quarter. A dazzle in offense, a creative, athletic, dominant guy, just reaching his peak, approaching stardom.

Navarro entered the game, being a great teammate, a passer, a smart guy who becomes either a penetrator or a shooter. His shooting is really accurate again and he doesn't exaggerate.

Gasol has been amazing. Their most important reference, no doubt about that. And he plays great defense. When the shoots won't be falling in the 2nd half, it will be asked from him to carry them again and he seems able to do it, although the annoying Diamantidis and Hatzivretas on the ball help-defense made it a bit tough for him at some moments.


Overall, Greece has some serious chances here and it's an awesome game so far. Spain has been miraculous at times, but Greece doesn't act like in the previous games. They play mature ball (the only field of the game they are better than the Spanish) and create better ball security. The Spanish risk, but this doesn't mean that they produce more, because the Greeks play very good defense.



didnt u see who was it, i think navaro or garbajosa who faked a foul. The commentator said he should be given an oscar for it.
This was Rudy. And, yes. He deserved the award. :D

[GSI]

It's truly enjoyable to watch greek team now. Maybe for the first time in this Eurobasket. Go Hellas!

[KlaipedaLT]

When you get to balonsexta.com where do you go then?

[Joyrider]

And something else...

As for the Spanish players attitude(which has been mentioned before)...

I can't stand a player -NBA level-slapping a guys hand on a lay-up and acting just ridiculous not admiting his foul...On the other hand every touch is a foul...

[DeusEx]

if anyone can pull this off... its the spartans :)

[saras7]

diamantidis defense is unbelievable.what is the 3points% of spanish

[Remon]

What the spaniards are doing is a disgrace to the game. Floping and acting in every oportunity.

And to him who said that greeks act like basket is boxing, the spaniards are acting like its ballet.

Well, for sure I'll take boxing over ballet anytime.

[Javiky]

When you get to balonsexta.com where do you go then?
click on "visor de partidos en directo"
now you can watch comercials untill the 3rd quarter

[DeusEx]

i would love if the clocks stopped working now. so that the spanish team get a taste of their own medicine and see how other teams had to play thanks to htier great organizational skills. And then i hope greece wins. So the spanish can be upset. :p

[Mocho]

What the spaniards are doing is a disgrace to the game. Floping and acting in every oportunity.

And to him who said that greeks act like basket is boxing, the spaniards are acting like its ballet.

Well, for sure I'll take boxing over ballet anytime.

You can't make the defense with the hands...you have to touch the ball...i have learned like that...

[KlaipedaLT]

Wow thanks alot! Will I be able to watch the Lithuania - Russia game also through this link and will it be in Lithuanian language?

[Genjuro]

Seems like Vasilakopoulos has given precise orders to the referees to help Spain...

[Javiky]

diamantidis defense is unbelievable.what is the 3points% of spanish
7/14
Diamantidis make a nice job
is true who is called ·D?Dimitrios,Diamantidis, Defense?

[Mocho]

Boxing again...have you seen that??

[Javiky]

Wow thanks alot! Will I be able to watch the Lithuania - Russia game also through this link and will it be in Lithuanian language?
only spanish, is a spanish tv

[KlaipedaLT]

hahahaha...ratatatatatatatatatatatatatatta what does that mean?

[Wide]

im on wap whats the result

[Straight forward]

Now i'm starting to like Greece!!! :D Quality basketball. Spanoulis is gold for Greece

[GSI]

Greece 53-52

[GSI]

Now i'm starting to like Greece!!! :D Quality basketball. Spanoulis is gold for Greece

You are young, your mind changes every minute.

[Straight forward]

You are young, your mind changes every minute.

I like bball...

[Remon]

i like how the spanish director doesn't show some replays.

[Lietuvis]

Ooooh fight, fight fight!!!

Greece by 1 at 3rd qtr.

[Shin]

What a fault!! :eek: OMG!!

[Minotavros]

i like how the spanish director doesn't show some replays.

My thoughts as well.

[Mocho]

Wow what a foult :|

[FRANKY 13]

spanish players are such loosers:eek:

[Pinone]

Greece is gonna win, but today I'm not reading all this bullshit about the refs from the greek fans.:eek:

[isaaccp]

Wow what a foult :|

Indeed, the referees are really against Spain.

[Minotavros]

The Spanish players are DIVING!!!!!!!!!!!

[GSI]

Indeed, the referees are really against Spain.

Good joke. Please one more.

[softice]

Spaniards fall down @ parke, i think they are dead, stop the game, we have dead people here

[Mocho]

The Spanish players are DIVING!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahaha...is incredible...foult...another foult...and the greeks can say that the refs are against greeks...buah...incredible what i have to read here...

[Nikoo]

Nope...they are swimming:D
PS:whats up with me, I'm rooting for Greece?

[Straight forward]

he he! Great semi-final !!!! :D i enjoying this too much :)

[Minotavros]

Nice Job refs

[Kleber]

Shame on this ref's...like everyone can see spain only have three class players.

[softice]

Hahahahaha...is incredible...foult...another foult...and the greeks can say that the refs are against greeks...buah...incredible what i have to read here...

Quit with basketball please
You failed

[qiangdade]

Shame on the spaniards. The game is predecided. The oscar goes to the entire spanish team. I feel sorry for you

[Minotavros]

I know how the Croats feel now.

[Remon]

Another Oscar nomination for Calderon, for the "I got shot on the chest" dive.

[Pinone]

Fiba must choose american refs for eurobasket!

[THRYLOS]

Congrats to the homosexual game of the Spaniards.

[LuDux]

Fiba must choose american refs for eurobasket!

They tried in 1995

[Mocho]

Nice Job refs

.........yeah...nice job

[Shin]

Technical???? OMG!!!!! fucking reefs!

[Pinone]

All you, greek fans in this forum, are showing what is sportmanship and fair play, buah, I read insults and too much crap.
This is a shame

[KlaipedaLT]

Spanoulis is keeping the Greeks alive, now Papaloukas and Diamantidis need to show in this 4th quarter why they are two of the best players in Europe right now.

[Straight forward]

imho, everything pretty fine about refs. there's no way they are going for Spain abvious

[Minotavros]

Amazing a technical for Spain!!!!!!!!!!But when will the Pepu Hernadez get technicals???

He is allowed to swear all the time

[KlaipedaLT]

Greeks are coming back! What a game.

[Minotavros]

Finally a little justice

[Javiky]

how much pay greek federetion to refs? what is the pric of a semi?
this is a joke

[KlaipedaLT]

The refs can't be perfect all the time, blame yourselves and yourselves only if you lose this game.

[KlaipedaLT]

What an exciting game, where is everyone at?

[Nikoo]

Dumb mistake by Greece, Calderon with easy lay-up...:(

[iuliuscezar]

What a game... You can really feel the presure on both sides. As a spectator I have to admit that the spanish deserve the win at least for Gasol's efforts...But I do have to say that I absolutly adore this greek team. They fight like no other.

[Wide]

whats the result how much time

[KlaipedaLT]

76-73 Spain, 25 seconds left in the game.

[Nikoo]

Spain - 76
Greece - 73
0:26

[KlaipedaLT]

78-76 Spain, 18 seconds left. Garbajosa at the ft line.

[Nikoo]

Himenes nails two FT
Greece answers with 3ball

[Nikoo]

Garbo with 2made FT
TO by Papa.
Spanish player on the line
11sec

[softice]

After all it was a good game
Congrats to Spain but i ll cheer for Lithuania or Russia at big final.

[Kleber]

Please Lithuania just destroy this crybabies tomorow.

Maybe papadoupoulos should send that clown calderon to hospital!

[Nikoo]

Even Zeus cant win this game:(

[iuliuscezar]

It's all over... 6 points for Spain with 11 seconds ...

[Mocho]

Please Lithuania just destroy this crybabies tomorow.

Maybe papadoupoulos should send that clown calderon to hospital!

Where is your team?

[Pinone]

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, We Did Again With Greece:d

[Invincible]

That's it, Spain 82-77 Greece, I'm very disappointed as a Greek...The only thing that I liked is that we played like men against the World Champions...Congratulations Spain I hope you take the gold medal, I just hope we take the bronze :D

[Captain CAAAVEMAAAAANNN!!]

We fought hard against the Greeks, the refs and the pressure.

99% from the line, talking about winning attitude. Papaloukas just disapeared.

[Javiky]

nice game.
refs help............ukranian ref just whistle one fault for spain, and for greace more than 15, but is cause he help spanish

[Kleber]

Where is your team?

Your coach and players behaviour especialy that calderon prick is a shame for world basket...no one likes your team.

It is a disgrace that this team is world champion.

[saras7]

i hope russia or lithuania wins the spanish and the referees in the finals.

[qiangdade]

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, We Did Again With Greece:d

Instead of being ashamed for your team and players....

8 vs 5

Good luck at the oscars

[Mocho]

i thought we weren't allowed to use any other language than english here

Ok...i can traduce it...is an orgasm only compared with the another i have the last summer when Nocioni failed...

[Petran]

Yes, congratulations....

For Navaro for Garbahotha and every one else. For giving 3fouls to Teo. For faking blows. For Calderon's behavior.. Cu next year in Bejing...

[FRANKY 13]

nice game.
refs help............ukranian ref just whistle one fault for spain, and for greace more than 15, but is cause he help spanish


Learn how to spell.

Its Greece.

[DeusEx]

Your coach and players behaviour especialy that calderon prick is a shame for world basket...no one likes your team.

It is a disgrace that this team is world champion.

their team isnt a champion yet, they first have to go thru either lith or russia. And this game was insane. So much drama i loved it. Greeks one hell of a fuking valiant effort guys. Amazing.

[Javiky]

Your coach and players behaviour especialy that calderon prick is a shame for world basket...no one likes your team.

It is a disgrace that this team is world champion.
everybody hater winners, in the 80´s to Yugoslavia and Soviet Union, in 90´s USA, now is Spain turn

[elaj]

Great game! I really enjoyed it! :D

Congrats to Spanish players, they really fought like lions and deserved the victory. Greece also fought, but Spain was better. I have to say that I expected more influence on the game by reffs for Spanish side, but I have to admit that reffs had nothing to do with the loss of Greek national team. Great semifinal! ;)

Calderon gets my vote for being MVP so far... he is scoring in right moment.

[wardjdim]

After all it was a good game

Good?

What is "excellent" for you, then? Ok, Greece winning it, maybe, would make it ideal, but c'mon.

What a game. Tension, atmosphere, Papaloukas choking and struggling, Spanoulis with an amazing performance (words coming from a big Spanoulis hater, here), Gasol and Navarro flawless, many fights, technicals, intentional fouls, Rudy being theatrical, Calderon being a killer, Vasilopoulos stepping up, Giannakis making mistakes.

What a game and, at the end, I believe that Spain deserved the win slightly more than Greece did. Greece was the one who struggled all the fuss, while leading and with the Spanish being unable to produce offensively in the 3rd quarter and early in the 4th, being in position to only pass the ball to Gasol, not having a clear head. Then, Greece totally forgot Spanoulis and went in, without success, but what a defense Spain played in the last period as well.

What a thriller!! I love the game more today. ;)

EDIT: By the way, some of the brainless (and there are many) Greek posters should give themselves a break and congratulate the opponent. Spain didn't choke and didn't provocate (at least as much as you guys are proclaiming). Grow up!

[parso]

Congrats to our team ! I'm very proud of them ! They are surely one the greatest team we ever had ! :)


Congrats to Spain.

Go Lithuania ! :D

Congrats to Spain but most of all congrats to Greek posters for being so gratious... that was probably more than just a basketball game. It had everything that life has to offer. Although there was plenty of acting this was by far the best international game I can remember for years!

BTW go Russia:cool:

[Jan van Grabski]

I would like to thank Greek NT for a thriller that we just witnessed, i believed you can win...because the team which has nothing to loose and especially if that team is Greece is very dangerous. Gosh what a game.... they put the song "i will survive" at the end....quite symbolically.


P.s. and of course i hope that we will not be meeting tomorrow :D

[saras7]

nice game.
refs help............ukranian ref just whistle one fault for spain, and for greace more than 15, but is cause he help spanish
15 wrong decisions helping greek team?spanish people has a lot of humor.when i saw them i remember karagounis in dives very good

[DeusEx]

i wish lithuania could defend like greece. great defense, but attack could have been better. I guess it just wasnt meant to be. =/

[Mocho]

Your coach and players behaviour especialy that calderon prick is a shame for world basket...no one likes your team.

It is a disgrace that this team is world champion.

Seriously i think that anybody like the team who won...today is Spain...yesterday was USA...tomorrow who knows?...i'm sorry, because i like how have played today the greek team...but yeah we have won...and i think that was'n the refs help...

P.D. I like the portugal team...sorry about the last comment

[AssAsin]

Gasol made the difference today.I like Papadoupoulos but he was useless.Btw it was a good match congrats to both teams...

[rikhardur]

Didn't have the chance to watch the game, but congrats to Spain.
After seeing the final score and the individual scores, I must say that Greece surprised me. Less than 24 hours since the last game and still they put up with Spain. Greece NT is just not dead yet as it seemed before yesterday's game and this game.

[Javiky]

Learn how to spell.

Its Greece.
I am human, I am mistaken

[Kleber]

everybody hater winners, in the 80´s to Yugoslavia and Soviet Union, in 90´s USA, now is Spain turn

You will never be a winner because you will never had the respect of world basket with your behaviour,press,coach,players etc.

[CG]

congratulations to Spain
i am very proud for Greece.They were giving 2 matches in less 24 hours.5 players were ill.they were tired.they were playing in the opponent court.but they fight untill the end and lose from a Spain which tremendus lucky shots and high percentages on both 3points and FTs.I will not say anything against refs but i didnt like the attitude of Calderon even if i think of him as the best player in the EC.First defeat in a knock out game for Greece after 3 years.Last time was against Argentina in Olympic
and finally

they fight and fall like Spartians

tomorrow i will cheer for Lith or Russia

[KWSN-Men]

nice game.
refs help............ukranian ref just whistle one fault for spain, and for greace more than 15, but is cause he help spanish

It is very provocative for Spain to talk about the refs in all this tournament the refs are playing all their opponents 60-40.

If this game was payed in any other country and not in Spain, we would win.

ALL your team, from the players to the guy with the towels is complaining the whole game, when the refs are really on their side.

Every, I mean every contact from the Greeks was a foul.

I will cheer for your opponent, whoever it is, like in football, you are always talking and talking and talking and always losers.

[Toxicity]

Great semifinal! Both teams deserved to be in the final... congratulations.

Refs were decent (not perfect, obviously) and i don't think Greece can blame them for this lose...

Gasol, Calderon and Navarro are unbelievable (and so was Spanoulis)... what a game! :eek:

p.s.= LaSexta speakers are C R A Z Y...

[Genjuro]

Congratulations to Greece. They played a great game, finally bringing its best and gearing up their offense. I hope they can get the bronze medal and qualify directly for the Olympics (if Russia is the rival).

As for the referees, Greeks feel they got robbed, and so does Spanish, so I guess they did a balanced job despite some very questionable calls (on both sides). For example, when Calderón and Garbajosa cheated the refs with those dives, I think they made a couple of calls favouring Greece realizing they had been fooled.

By the way, if you think Spain loves to dive, check back when Ricky "the diver" Rubio joins the team. It's going to be a show.

[PHILIPeurobasket]

Great game, great basketball and great news that I will see Spain in final :) !!!!!!!!

[KONSTANTINE]

ok.i think refs played 60-40 to spain but spain won because he had great 3point shooting.how many did they hit?

[Javiky]

It is very provocative for Spain to talk about the refs in all this tournament the refs are playing all their opponents 60-40.

If this game was payed in any other country and not in Spain, we would win.

ALL your team, from the players to the guy with the towels is complaining the whole game, when the refs are really on their side.

Every, I mean every contact from the Greeks was a foul.

I will cheer for your opponent, whoever it is, like in football, you are always talking and talking and talking and always losers.
nice joke
today I saw for the 1st time on my life, a technical faul for nothing. the "last shoot" on 3rd quarter when Diamantidis "hit" navarro wasn´t fault, , a lot of like this. don complain your team lost. today you are losers, don´t forget it, any other time you will be the champ, but not today

[iuliuscezar]

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, We Did Again With Greece:d

You did what with Greece ? Be decent in your happiness and have some respect... Personally I would give 10 Calderon's for just 1 big-hearted Diamantidis.

P.S. : The greeks shouldn't forget that Spain had a joyride against Germany while Greece gave almost everything in a very intense quarter with Slovenia... Yoy guys have every reason to be proud of your team.

[Straight forward]

Concrats for both TEAMS! They were fighting like lions. Both sides wanted to win! Imho, Greece can't blame refs, cause in such emotional game there is no way to be 100% objective, it's simply impossible. Spain were a bit better, because of some individual advantage. Greece needed Papaloukas or Diamantidis at the end. Respect for Greece, they kicked my ass and i have to face it that Greece proved their quality and spirit. Congrats for great basketball!!!

[PHILIPeurobasket]

ok.i think refs played 60-40 to spain but spain won because he had great 3point shooting.how many did they hit?

11/22 (50.0%) :) and this was one key to victory ..

[Victorious]

Great game, great basketball and great news that I will see Spain in final :) !!!!!!!!

Last year you were thanking Greece that cause they had beaten the US.

[KONSTANTINE]

11/22 (50.0%) :) and this was one key to victory ..


50 percent.thats the key of the victory.

[Genjuro]

Last year you were thanking Greece that cause they had beaten the US.
I think 99% people in Europe was thanking Greece for beating USA last year.

[T.W.Is.M.]

Great game indeed.Finally Greece played bball!4 the first time we were good 4 more than 6 minutes:cool: But again this wasn't enough.And how could this b enough?5 players never beat 8 at their home court.Ispanoulis was great tonight(after all he was playing at home:p ), on the other side Gasol, Navarro and the MIG(Men In Grey) were also amazing.We should have avoided some TOs that brought Spain up by 6, if we had managed that, we could have escaped with the win.
I hope our players remain concentrated, we have another big game tomorrow 4 the bronze medal against a very good team(no matter which that will b).I am proud 4 our team because we made a big effort in a hostile enviroment, we proved we deserved 2 b there, congratulations 2 Spain 4 their victory and 4 the silver medal they will deservedly get.:D

[parso]

nice joke
today I saw for the 1st time on my life, a technical faul for nothing. the "last shoot" on 3rd quarter when Diamantidis "hit" navarro wasn´t fault, , a lot of like this. don complain your team lost. today you are losers, don´t forget it, any other time you will be the champ, but not today

Yeah Diamenditis did nearly rape navarro on that drive:D ... however the acting the Spanish players did was even better than the Greeks(who never foul anybody if you would believe their face expresions:eek: ) ... they are the best team and don't need all the cheats Navarro and co do all the time. Just play the game streaight up please!!!

[CG]

i hope that some people from now on will like a little more Greece and will show a little more respect.not because they are the best team but because this character that they show today and the last years is something you must admire.the same things is also for Spanoulis.respect for him

[Javiky]

Our team lost but you haven't the winner's attitude unfortunately :(the 1st replay call spanish losers, and I just remenber who are losers today.

[Mocho]

ok.i think refs played 60-40 to spain but spain won because he had great 3point shooting.how many did they hit?

I think that it's not that refs play 60-40...is that Spanish game search the foul in a lot of situations...see the porcentage of fouls the last year in Japan too...

[KWSN-Men]

nice joke
today I sew for the 1st time on my life, a technical faul for nothing. the "last shoot" on 3rd quarter when Diamantidis wasn´t fault, when greek hit Navarro, a lot of like this. don complain your team lost. today you are losers, don´t forget it

Two times European GOLD. When (and if ever) Spain one (1) we will talk again.

During ALL the game, the Spanish were diving and complaining, diving and complaining. Papaloukas got 3 early fouls, two of them were not fouls. Tsartsaris that was guarding all the game Gasol very good got two non existant fouls. And ofcourse, when they started losing their pace, they started the shit, like this clown Calderon.

I know Spain want this, but this is getting rediculous.

The opponents of Spain have to play alot better than them. The refs will be playing Spain for the win. It will not be so difficult though, when the spanish losers think they might lose, they will soil their pants.

Last but not least, congratulations are in order for the WORST organisation since I started watching 20 years ago. You can't even keep time, you are pathetic.

[PHILIPeurobasket]

50 percent.thats the key of the victory.

exactly ... and 2nd key - there wasnt any 2nd key :) both teams play on this same level...

http://www.eurobasket.com/AcPhotos_Players/1Gasol_Paul.jpg
YEAH !!!

[T.W.Is.M.]

the 1st replay call spanish losers, and I just remenber who are losers today.

we may lost in the court today, but some others act like losers outside the court...
the Spaniards would do anything 2 win that cup.if they had 2, they would lock their opponents in the locker room.but if u don't play better than your opponent, u won't convince anybody of your alleged superiority...

[KONSTANTINE]

ok guys.
spain deserved this victory.
they have great basketball tradition BUT they never won gold in eurobasket.
they went in semis and finals so many times and i think they deserve GOLD
even IF it was refs help its JUSTIFIABLE FROM HISTORY.

[Petran]

Good?


EDIT: By the way, some of the brainless (and there are many) Greek posters should give themselves a break and congratulate the opponent. Spain didn't choke and didn't provocate (at least as much as you guys are proclaiming). Grow up!

Try seeing the replays. See Navaro after being stopped by Diamantidis. See the spanish player falling after a contact with Tsartsaris and rolling in the ground. See Calderon putting his finger in front of his mouth...

Try seeing Fernandez when he gets the technical...

But you are right, we could have won...

[CG]

exactly ... and 2nd key - there wasnt any 2nd key :) both teams play on this same level...

http://www.eurobasket.com/AcPhotos_Players/1Gasol_Paul.jpg
YEAH !!!


it was.nearly 30FT!!!!with 98percentage...

[Joyrider]

And here are the awards of the Spanishbasket 07...

1st male actor:Calderon diving into the pool after a tremendous hit by Tsartsaris.

2nd male actor:Fernandez ,even those refs saw it...

"technical support and optical ef." award :the whole spanish literature for handling time. Next time every player should have a watch...

"MOST RIDICULOUS CELEBRATION AFTER A BASKET" award: Again Calderon for making the well known "Ssssssssssss" celebration in his.. own court... infront of his own fans!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: Maybe that was because he didn't felt like home with Greek fans;) ;) ;)

"THE BIG AbSENCE" award: Spanish fans.

P.S1. Please can someone tell me the FTs that each team made.I'm dying to find it on net but it's too early.
PS2. A good change in rules: Each spanish FT count's for 0,5???How about that. Good luck to Lithuania(I hope) or Russia tomorrow...you will need it..a lot...

[wardjdim]

Enough with attacking the refs...

50-50 it was tonight.

And yeah, Greece was great, but some BIG mistakes in the 4th qtr were not covered. If Greece was more careful then, the game would've been over. ;)

But, yeah, Greece was outstanding, phenomenal, breath-taking, big and strong. Multi-dimensional, exciting. Had they had this game (instead of being emotional and partly-arrogant) in last year's final game of the WC, they would've won, no doubt about that..

[Straight forward]

ok guys.
spain deserved this victory.
they have great basketball tradition BUT they never won gold in eurobasket.
they went in semis and finals so many times and i think they deserve GOLD
even IF it was refs help its JUSTIFIABLE FROM HISTORY.

what the hell? JUSTIFIABLE FROM HISTORY? :) this is something interesting. In 2003 Lithuania was way better, i don't know what happend in 2005, but if Spain will be champs 2007 it's only because they ar best at the moment ( i hope).

[Javiky]

Last but not least, congratulations are in order for the WORST organisation since I started watching 20 years ago.
I agree with you in that fact


the insult is the language of the frustration

[FRANKY 13]

I am human, I am mistaken

Right. Your sense of irony should be used in a more delicate way if u ask me.

The game was everything I had hoped and expected from a basketball semifinal between two Huge teams. Its intensity was breathtaking and the refs did a big effort to control it. They did succeed until a certain extent and
Genjuro's post covered me in that matter. Spanoulis was imperial today, and it is a shame that his efforts did not get rewarded. Diamantidis had a very mature game too with complete stats (6 pts, 9 rebs, 3 assists and 2 steals) and contributing greatly to the team's defense. Special mention to Vassilopoulos and of course everyone else who tried to make things right. Papaloukas was the only one who had a bad game, but he deserves a break after 2 years of "total winning".:cool:

On the other hand Gasol is arguably the most decisive player in the FIBA game. His game is efficient and so pleasant to watch. No offense to Calderon and Navarro who are huge players, but it is to my mind legitimate (although kind of exagerrated) to claim that Spain is better with Gasol surrounded by a B national team than everyone else without him. They had a great game today and missed only 1 FT out of 28...They just could not lose at home. It would have been different in Greece or Lithuania.

CONGRATULATION TO THE WINNERS AND GREECE. THEY BOTH DESERVE THEIR REPUTATION.

[PHILIPeurobasket]

it was.nearly 30FT!!!!with 98percentage...

yes you have right, this also was a key ;)

Turning point: With Spain trailing defending EuroBasket champions Greece 67-65, Jose Manuel Calderon buried a three-pointer to start a 9-1 run which he finished on a break-away lay-up for a 74-68 lead. The Greeks would pull to within two points but Jorge Garbajosa and Juan Carlos Navarro both made two foul shots in the final 18 seconds to secure an 82-77 victory for the reigning world champions and hosts Spain. The Spanish will play either Lithuania or Russia in Sunday's final while Greece take on the loser of that match for the bronze medal and an automatic berth in the 2008 Olympics.

Hero: It would be a crime to give this award to a single player, so equal winners are Navarro (23 points), Calderon (18 points) and Pau Gasol (22 points, six rebounds and three blocks).

Stats: Spain continually buried big three-pointers and shot 50% (11-of-22) from beyond the arc. Pepu Hernandez's team also made 27 of 28 foul shots while surviving 16 turnovers.

http://www.eurobasket2007.org/en/files/{8A96E0F4-FE4A-45E4-AE70-C75298CACEBA}large_h.jpg
I think that now crying like a little child ...

[Invincible]

Let's just forget about anything else and take a moment to see some things:

First of all, Spain is a great team and in my opinion they trully deserved to win tonight...I'm not gonna complain about the refs, they won fair and square (although there were some wrong whistles for BOTH sides)...

To be honest, I didn't think we would play well in this game (because I think we did), but instead I thought Spain would win by 10p+... I really liked how we played, it was a very close game until the last minute but then some turnovers from greece and some nice 3 pointers from Spain were the key factors that decided this game...

It's true that the refs had some bad calls, for example when Calderon dived because Tsartsaris touched him...I think we can all agree that this was not a foul...In the other hand, I think that when Rudy tried to get in and Papadopoulos was defending, Rudy did not overreact because of the "collision" between them, and in my opinion it shouldn't be a technical on Rudy...

I just wanted to point these things out and I'm happy that we played well tonight (at least we weren't "crushed", we can all agree in that). Anyway, congratulations to Spain for a deserved and fair win and good luck at the final where I hope you will face Lithuania :)

[Mocho]

Try seeing the replays. See Navaro after being stopped by Diamantidis. See the spanish player falling after a contact with Tsartsaris and rolling in the ground. See Calderon putting his finger in front of his mouth...

Try seeing Fernandez when he gets the technical...

But you are right, we could have won...

Why was the technical?please tell me...

And why it wasn't a foul when Navarro was hit in the air by Diamantidis body?

All contact in basketball is foul...and defense with hands too...always!

[Genjuro]

This is extremely funny.

If you have to believe both the Spanish and Greek fans, you would think basketball is now played with 8 guys per team. Everybody feels raped. I guess it's the Mediterranean character.