Cesafi 2008

[amamangloy]

CeSAFI All-Stars 2008, September 13, 2008 @ the New Cebu Coliseum

Damnit! I missed the slam dunk competitions, no thanks to the organizers they scheduled it as the first event and preceding a long and boring 3 round 3 point shootout.

Anyways congratulations to Univ of Southern Philippines Foundation rookie Panther Elwin Durano for winning the slam dunk crown, I actually expected him to win that one.

In the 3 point shootout, UV's Vonn Lanete had 18 and SWU's Chris Litorja had 17 in the first round but USPF team captain Moncrief Rogado stole the show in the 2nd and 3ed rounds to emerge as this year's 3-point shootout titlist.

All Star Games:
Light Team(UV, USC, SWU)

Starters: UV's Greg Slaughter(C, 6-11), Junjun Lasala(F, 6-2) and Vonn Lanete(PG, 5-10), SWU's Alfred Belande(G/F 6-2) & Cleford Maguate(C/F, 6-4)

Rest of team: UV's Boniber Sendrijas(PF, 6-2), Ritchum Dennison(SG, 5-10), Chris Diputado(PG, 5-9), USC's Jun Cantonao(SG, 5-10), Sam Hermosa(SF, 6-0), Paul Joven(PG, 5-10), Giovanni Padillo(SG, 5-10), Emel Rowe(F/C, 6-4), & Cid Cortes(C/F, 6-0)

Dark Team(USJ-R, UC, USPF, DBTC)
Starters: USJ-R's Manny Gabas(C, 6-4), Armand Ponce(PG,5-9), & Luther Justiniani(SG, 6-2), UC's Junmar Fajardo(C, 6-9) & Edward Pao(PF, 6-3)

Rest of team: USJ-R's Jan Malinao(F/C, 6-3), Lyndon Gudez(SG, 5-11), Jabe Delfino(F, 6-3), & Kurt Amores(C, 6-4), UC's Janssen Abella(SG, 5-11), & Kevin Quilantang(G/F, 6-2), DBTC's Ricmar Perturbos(C/F, 6-3), Celso Colegado Jr.(PG, 5-6), & Rodolfo Enterina III(PG, 5-9), & USPF's Randy Avila(PG, 5-7)

Light Team wins All-Star Game 76-72.

Mythical Five All-Stars:
C 6-11 Greg Slaughter(UV)
PF 6-9 Junmar Fajardo(UC)
SF 6-4 John Emel Rowe(USC)
SG 6-2 Luther Justiniani(USJ-R)
PG 5-10 Vonn Harry Lanete(UV)

MVP: Greg Slaughter(UV)

Play of the game(3rd Quarter):

Emel Rowe drives off Jan Malinao in the middle, Dark team's defense collapses on him, hands a pass to Slaughter who makes a two-handed jam right in Fajardo's face, and one!(on succeeding play, Rowe made another lob pass--more like an alley-oop attempt, Greg Slaughter converts but would have been the play of the game if he was able to slam that hard)

any videos thadz?

[kontiki]

http://sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/09/14/sports/slaughter.powers.light.team.in.all.star.game.html
cesafi all star result link. good game for the two bigs gs and jf, hope they continue improving and have the goal of not just dominating the local scene but also the national basketball scene.... and hopefully be someday good enough to compete internationally

[vanguard]

With his size, it's so hard to match up with Greg Slaughter. He should be tested against taller and bigger opponents to improve him further.

[thadzonline]

Greg Slaughter had 31 points, 6 boards and a block as UV takes Game 1 of its best of 3 semifinal against USC, 88-76.

http://www.basketballcebu.com/18september2008.htm

[vanguard]

It's hard to think how USC can figure out Greg Slaughter and UV. GS is too huge and has improved a lot.

How about the news of UV recruiting a 6'10 player?

[dreamwalker]

Want to see GS play against SE (Sam Ekwe)...........:D

I want to see the level of his improvement.

Your thoughts, please thanks.

[sergio23]

really? a 6'10 player? is this guy a Fil-For or a Foreigner?

[thadzonline]

It's hard to think how USC can figure out Greg Slaughter and UV. GS is too huge and has improved a lot.

How about the news of UV recruiting a 6'10 player?

Greg mentioned that to me...Apparently the guy is from Mindanao which made me doubt it.

Either, they are bluffing knowing that USC is eagerly awaiting a 6'8 Fil-for from Europe or the guy is smaller than 6'10 just like Joel Ambohot is reportedly only 6'5 when he was earlier rumored to be 6'8..Besides, it's hard to believe that kind of size dont get noticed in Mindanao at this times

[pachador]

could the guy be one of eman samigue's three brothers? Eman's trainer mentioned that one of his younger brothers is at least 6'6" or 6'7". if i remember, Eman's trainer mentioned that Eman's 3 brothers are all 6'5" or taller.

or it could be a new fil-foreign giant with mindanao roots ?

or is it possible that some people are spreading rumors that Ambohot is only 6'5" when in fact he could be taller just to throw off basketball scouts?

By the way, Eman's 3 brothers are described here:
http://philippinebasketballreview.blogspot.com/2007/09/tall-eman-brothers.html
Two current University of Mindanao Wildcats are 6-4 Fernando Eman, 21 and 6-7 Christopher Eman, 20. A third brother, 6-6 Spencer Eman, 18 is ill with toxic goiter.


Greg mentioned that to me...Apparently the guy is from Mindanao which made me doubt it.

Either, they are bluffing knowing that USC is eagerly awaiting a 6'8 Fil-for from Europe or the guy is smaller than 6'10 just like Joel Ambohot is reportedly only 6'5 when he was earlier rumored to be 6'8..Besides, it's hard to believe that kind of size dont get noticed in Mindanao at this times

[thadzonline]

could the guy be one of eman samigue's three brothers? Eman's trainer mentioned that one of his younger brothers is at least 6'6" or 6'7". if i remember, Eman's trainer mentioned that Eman's 3 brothers are all 6'5" or taller.

or it could be a new fil-foreign giant with mindanao roots ?

or is it possible that some people are spreading rumors that Ambohot is only 6'5" when in fact he could be taller just to throw off basketball scouts?

By the way, Eman's 3 brothers are described here:
http://philippinebasketballreview.blogspot.com/2007/09/tall-eman-brothers.html
Two current University of Mindanao Wildcats are 6-4 Fernando Eman, 21 and 6-7 Christopher Eman, 20. A third brother, 6-6 Spencer Eman, 18 is ill with toxic goiter.

Hard to discount the fact that the one who mentioned to me that Ambohot is only 6'5 is unimpeachable, someone who would have no interest in the guy whatsoever. Besides, Papot Paredes who attended a Nike Elite camp with Ambohot can confirm that. Ryan Aznar also claims Ambohot already committed to SWU. Fil-foreign? I guess GS would have told me that but he merely said he is coming from Mindanao. USC's 6'8 prospect actually has Mindanao roots but will be coming at a later date than the UV's supposed find. Anyway, if it's true, we won't have to wait that long because UV's guy is supposed to be here next month.

[ricodgame]

Hey Thadz, is John Rowe = Emel Rowe..if He is, according to Manila Bulletin article, he i joining the PBL draft, so does this mean that he is not anymore going to play with USC? and Von Lanete is also joining the draft and it means he is not anymore playing for UV?

[thadzonline]

Hey Thadz, is John Rowe = Emel Rowe..if He is, according to Manila Bulletin article, he i joining the PBL draft, so does this mean that he is not anymore going to play with USC? and Von Lanete is also joining the draft and it means he is not anymore playing for UV?

His full name is John Emel Rowe and he has applied for the PBL Draft later this week. However, he will most likely miss the pre-draft camp as they are still in the CeSAFI semifinals. We'll see what happens because while he did make a big impact for the USC Warriors, his averages weren't really exceptional and him missing the pre-draft camp, one can hope PBL teams must have seen something special in him despite sub-par numbers.

[ricodgame]

His full name is John Emel Rowe and he has applied for the PBL Draft later this week. However, he will most likely miss the pre-draft camp as they are still in the CeSAFI semifinals. We'll see what happens because while he did make a big impact for the USC Warriors, his averages weren't really exceptional and him missing the pre-draft camp, one can hope PBL teams must have seen something special in him despite sub-par numbers.

so does this mean he will lose his eligibility in CESAFI?

[nardy]

Youth vs. experience
By Jonas Panerio
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 12:34:00 09/23/2008


Games today, September 23, 2008:
Cebu Coliseum
5:15 p.m. - CIT vs. UC (jrs.)
6:45 p.m. - USJ-R vs. UC (srs.)

The age-old conflict between youth and experience comes to the fore on Tuesday as the veteran University of San Jose-Recoletos (USJ-R) Jaguars take on the rookie-laden University of Cebu (UC) Webmasters in Game 1 of their best-of-three semifinal series of the Cesafi men's basketball tournament at the Cebu Coliseum.

The Jaguars of head coach Edito Salacot have been battle-tested all throughout the years and have kept the same core of players intact.

It has finally paid dividends as it has allowed them to dominate the rest of the field including UC, who they defeated, 97-69, in their lone elimination round encounter.

With eight seniors in their fold, pundits have dubbed USJ-R's title bid this season as its “last dance” and their last chance at redemption after falling short of the finals last season in their epic three-game semifinals series with the seven-time champions University of the Visayas (UV).

Leading the charge for the Jaguars will be their wily backcourt combination of court general Armand Ponce and playmaker Luther Justiniani. Complimenting their perimeter pop will be the inside presence of Manny Gabas, Jan Malinao, Jabe Delfino, Kurt Amores and Randy Pogoy.

USJ-R, though, will have to bring their A-game on defense as they try to contain the massive 6-foot-9 center of UC, Junmar Fajardo.

Aside from Fajardo, UC will also lean heavily on their two talented rookies, Edward Pao and Kevin Quilantang. Snipers Jannsen Abella, Kelvin Juliane and Laurence Agas will also be called upon to provide perimeter coverage.

Meanwhile, the UC Baby Webmasters will also start their trek back to the finals when they face the Cebu Institute of Technology (CIT) in Game 1 of their semifinals series.

UC is looking to reclaim the throne that they lost to UV in last year's title showdown

[pachador]

anybody has a rough idea whats the weight of slaughter and Fajardo? .The news always refer to Fajardo as a massive center, but I thought he has skinny. Is Fajardo over 210 lbs at least?

[ankle breaker]

for me, basing on their respective built. slaughter weighs around 240-260 pounds while fajardo is close to 200-210 the max.

[ankle breaker]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/AJ_san_juan_usc.jpg
AJ San Juan
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/alfred_vitug_USC.jpg
Alfred Vitug
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/cidjovencortes_USC.jpg
Cid Joven "Yao" Cortes
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/earvindennisferraren_usc.jpg
Earvin Dennis "Magic" Ferraren
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/edwardbakker_USC.jpg
Edward "Eddie" Bakker
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/enricojohnllanto_USC.jpg
Enrico John "Rico MVP" Llanto
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/genenoelgallarde_USC.jpg
Gene Noel "Gino" Gallarde
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/giovannipadillo_USC.jpg
Giovannie "Gio" Padillo
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/jp_cruz_USC.jpg
JP Cruz
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/paulnormanjoven_USC.jpg
Paul Norman Joven
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/samjordanhermosa_USC.jpg
Sam Jordan Hermosa

[ankle breaker]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/arnd_django_SWU.jpg
Arrd Django
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/ceniza_SWU.jpg
Ceniza
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/eric_zanoria_SWU.jpg
Eric Zanoria
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/jalandoni_SWU.jpg
Jalandoni
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/leo_armecin_SWU.jpg
Leo Armecin
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/melvin_divinagracia_SWU.jpg
Melvin Divinagracia
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/richard_gianchand_SWU.jpg
Richard Gianchand

[ankle breaker]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/slaughter.jpg
Greg Slaughter
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/vonlanete_UV.jpg
Harry Von Lanete
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/emelrowe_eddiebakker_USC.jpg
Eddie Bakker and Emel Rowe
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/UVvsUSC.jpg
USC vs. UV
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/UVvsLyceum4.jpg
UV vs Lyceum4
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/UVvsLyceum3.jpg
UV vs Lyceum3
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/UVvsLyceum2.jpg
UV vs Lyceum2
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/UVvsLyceum.jpg
UV vs Lyceum

[the cool cat]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/slaughter.jpg
Greg Slaughter
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/vonlanete_UV.jpg
Harry Von Lanete
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/emelrowe_eddiebakker_USC.jpg
Eddie Bakker and Emel Rowe
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/UVvsUSC.jpg
USC vs. UV
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/UVvsLyceum4.jpg
UV vs Lyceum4
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/UVvsLyceum3.jpg
UV vs Lyceum3
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/UVvsLyceum2.jpg
UV vs Lyceum2
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/bol-anon1234/UVvsLyceum.jpg
UV vs Lyceum thanks for sharing the pics bro. more more more..

[ricodgame]

i heard that Llanto is the former MVP of CESAFI.. Why is he not applying for PBL draft?

[ricodgame]

What if they organized an CESAFI all stars VS NCAA All Stars or against UAAP all stars?

[thadzonline]

What if they organized an CESAFI all stars VS NCAA All Stars or against UAAP all stars?

look for a willing sponsor ricodgame who's willing to bankroll the expenses and we'll make that happen:D

[ward]

look for a willing sponsor ricodgame who's willing to bankroll the expenses and we'll make that happen:D


I think this is really a good idea! Not only will it showcase the caliber of the league but also the talent of the individual players...

[UnitedAmeircanTikiTiki]

There are rumors from a cebu forum that UV recruits new 6'10 fil-american niger....!!!

http://www.istorya.net/forums/basketball/48159-cesafi-basketball-90.html

[ward]

There are rumors from a cebu forum that UV recruits new 6'10 fil-american niger....!!!

http://www.istorya.net/forums/basketball/48159-cesafi-basketball-90.html


Looks like UV is doing a San Beda,from what I have heard, the new recruit has no Filipino lineage...:eek:

[ricodgame]

There are rumors from a cebu forum that UV recruits new 6'10 fil-american niger....!!!

http://www.istorya.net/forums/basketball/48159-cesafi-basketball-90.html

only thadz can confirm this one..

anyways, thadz regarding the UAAP vs NCAA vs CESAFI.. u think ABS CBN sports will sponsor this one? but CESAFI is unknown to some Filipino hoop fans here in manila.. anyways, it is much better first if CESAFI games will be broadcast here in manila, so that metro manileños will know how good and improve your league there in south.. another thing is, if CESAFI teams will win or at least beat ADU, DLSU, SBC or CSJL in PCCL maybe they will be get nod by some fans here..

[C2Hamm]

There are rumors from a cebu forum that UV recruits new 6'10 fil-american niger....!!!

http://www.istorya.net/forums/basketball/48159-cesafi-basketball-90.html
erm... i dont think the last word you posted is appropriate..... no offense dude.

[UnitedAmeircanTikiTiki]

^^ ooops i just copied those words from the link...
I think niger means nigerian not the niger word..

[nardy]

^^ ooops i just copied those words from the link...
I think niger means nigerian not the niger word..


Sorry dude but if you said already fil-american ..... he cannot be from nigeria. The word n_g_r is a racist word so be careful next time you copy or cut and paste.

[thadzonline]

only thadz can confirm this one..

anyways, thadz regarding the UAAP vs NCAA vs CESAFI.. u think ABS CBN sports will sponsor this one? but CESAFI is unknown to some Filipino hoop fans here in manila.. anyways, it is much better first if CESAFI games will be broadcast here in manila, so that metro manileños will know how good and improve your league there in south.. another thing is, if CESAFI teams will win or at least beat ADU, DLSU, SBC or CSJL in PCCL maybe they will be get nod by some fans here..
we wait until his supposed scheduled arrival next month...the info surrounding the rumors are quite inaccurate and do not match at times..Greg Slaughter says he has Filipino blood, and african-american descent...another source says he is pure foreigner..yet another source says he is smaller than 6'10..But one thing I'll tell you for sure, somebody is arriving for sure very early in 2009, but the guy's not playing for UV

[ricodgame]

we wait until his supposed scheduled arrival next month...the info surrounding the rumors are quite inaccurate and do not match at times..Greg Slaughter says he has Filipino blood, and african-american descent...another source says he is pure foreigner..yet another source says he is smaller than 6'10..But one thing I'll tell you for sure, somebody is arriving for sure very early in 2009, but the guy's not playing for UV


the project bravo guy?

[C2Hamm]

the project bravo guy?
didnt Thadz have a post about the project bravo guy? i think Thadz was not that impressed as his first analysis.

Thadz - maybe you can share to us the video project bravo you and some players from USC watched and chatted about.

(chatted about, did that make any sense?)

[pachador]

so this means that 2 new giants are arriving in cebu? :eek: :eek: one for UV(Fil-africano) and one for USC (Fil-europeano)?
:eek: :eek: :eek:

I thought we had reached the end of a supply of giants with slaughter, aguilar, fajardo, eman, Chiu, deGuzman, Rabeh, etc but apparently our filipino genes have now reached a critical mass of intermixing with tall foreigners that it looks like we now have a steady flow of giants in the pipeline for the forseeable future which means the continued hybridization(mestizo) of filipino population is now in high gear .For example wanna-be priest 6'8" nigerian import Sam ekwe is now rumored to be a lover boy :D :D

[scoli]

Sorry dude but if you said already fil-american ..... he cannot be from nigeria. The word n_g_r is a racist word so be careful next time you copy or cut and paste.

I don't know if this is sounds bad to you? Pinochio call themselves as a Pinochio and some Pinochio making fun of the Negritos in the mountain and other Pinochio call moros from the south. Correction is need it, if I'm wrong.

[nardy]

I don't know if this is sounds bad to you? Pinochio call themselves as a Pinochio and some Pinochio making fun of the Negritos in the mountain and other Pinochio call moros from the south. Correction is need it, if I'm wrong.

some people might perceive it as a mere joke but a greater majority look at it as a form of racism. Racism in sports should not be condoned. Just recently Soccer's FIFA fined the Croatia Football Federation $27,700 Thursday after fans directed racist chants at an England player during a World Cup qualifier. FIFA said in a statement it would use “all of the means at its disposal to eliminate this form of discrimination.”

[scoli]

I'm looking a Pinochio driver for my tartanilla from Colon street ( UV ) to Banilad ( USC ) and down to P. del Rosario ( SWU ) and a little shopping in Mandawe to buy a bibingka and drop me off in Junquera.

[thadzonline]

didnt Thadz have a post about the project bravo guy? i think Thadz was not that impressed as his first analysis.

Thadz - maybe you can share to us the video project bravo you and some players from USC watched and chatted about.

(chatted about, did that make any sense?)

at the right time my friend..you can never go wrong with a 6'8" guy

[ricodgame]

anyways, I hope CESAFI will lend GS to our RP team..

[UnitedAmeircanTikiTiki]

I heard the Yen guiao wants GS in the NT.

[ricodgame]

I heard the Yen guiao wants GS in the NT.

yeah, and I hope CESAFI and UV will allow him to play for our NT without losing his eligibility in their league

[UnitedAmeircanTikiTiki]

^^ I think they will have a problem with that because CESAFI is influence by BAP... That'S why BAP MUST MUST BE TOTALLY DESTROYED!!!!

[nardy]

yeah, and I hope CESAFI and UV will allow him to play for our NT without losing his eligibility in their league

let's wait and see ..... remember, CESAFI had already broken away from SBP.

[thadzonline]

CeSAFI broken away from SBP? I don't think that was ever mentioned..What CeSAFI did was abide by the court order for the meantime which somehow favored the BAP and since there is a TRO to maintain the status quo, so does CeSAFi respects that. There's a world of difference when you say "CeSAFI has broken away from the SBP" compared to "The SBP omitted CeSAFi from its rosters"..Either of which has not yet happened...Problem is we are quick to ride on media sensationalization..or we even contribute to it...

[Alex07]

CeSAFI broken away from SBP? I don't think that was ever mentioned..What CeSAFI did was abide by the court order for the meantime which somehow favored the BAP and since there is a TRO to maintain the status quo, so does CeSAFi respects that. There's a world of difference when you say "CeSAFI has broken away from the SBP" compared to "The SBP omitted CeSAFi from its rosters"..Either of which has not yet happened...Problem is we are quick to ride on media sensationalization..or we even contribute to it...

I think that's right..we only contribute if we curse Barrios for not doing good :D But anyways i'm all for Philippine Basketball and I hope we get Slaughter as early as possible or even Junmar and the Aussie guy.

[thadzonline]

maybe you wanna take a look at this:

http://sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/09/26/sports/scouts.told.stay.away.html

seems like me and that Manila guy is in trouble..lol

[Dinamita]

what a selfish act!

let the players decide for their future...

If they will accept a better deal and play in UAAP then so be it!...


Its the players choice to stay or not... So let the scouts do their job!

[thadzonline]

what a selfish act!

let the players decide for their future...

If they will accept a better deal and play in UAAP then so be it!...


Its the players choice to stay or not... So let the scouts do their job!

But I think it should also be noted that scouts go through the proper channels...The writer failed to mention Estenzo was not informed and it was only a UC assistant coach who tagged along maybe without authorization..The article just gives us an example that media articles are not very accurate

[pachador]

well, without taking regional sides, the bottomline is which school makes the best offer. anyway, if the player is no good, the school will let go of the player too so it works both ways.



maybe you wanna take a look at this:

http://sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/09/26/sports/scouts.told.stay.away.html

[thadzonline]

well, without taking regional sides, the bottomline is which school makes the best offer. anyway, if the player is no good, the school will let go of the player too so it works both ways.

reason why it has now become very important for Cebu to have its own commercial league that will at least buffer the exodus of it collegiate players to Manila..

[rhk111]

at the right time my friend..you can never go wrong with a 6'8" guy

It seems you guys are getting obssessed with height only again. Get Don Yabut, Chris Suguitan, or Francis De Leon if you just want to see somebody taller than usual on the hardcourt.

[thadzonline]

It seems you guys are getting obssessed with height only again. Get Don Yabut, Chris Suguitan, or Francis De Leon if you just want to see somebody taller than usual on the hardcourt.

keyword: Potential..

read examples:

Greg Slaughter-from last year's tallest CeSAFI benchwarmer to this year's most probable CeSAFI MVP

Junmar Fajardo-tried out for USPF, didn't make the cut despite his size. UC took a chance and now has 1 of the 2 most dominant big men in the CeSAFI. will most likely be number 2 in the MVP race behind Slaughter and will definitely make the Mythical Five as well.

[ankle breaker]

surprise new comers will be edward pao, kevin quilantang and robinson mohammad of UC.

[thadzonline]

surprise new comers will be edward pao, kevin quilantang and robinson mohammad of UC.

those guys are already playing for UC..Mohammad is really no surprise and uilantang is struggling at the point..Edward Pao is probably the only rookie to make this season's Mythical 5

[Blackie]

The question i have is how many students have transferred out of UV and went on to play in Manila based schools? Students who were recruited and allowed to leave

[pachador]

I really think that the major reason why almost all our 6'8" and taller players never became outstanding players is because they were all skinny and weak and did not get proper fundamentals. a 6'9" skinny player only has a 4 inch advantage over a bull-strong 6'5" center. Four inches is not even half the length of my hand. in pickup games for example, it is easier guarding a weak skinny 6'2" guy than a 5'10" bull-strong guy. with the tall skinny guy, you just bulldoze or push him out of the shaded lane, and if he tries to drive to the basket and dunk , he can't do it because you'll be faster than him, and hack the ball out of his hands or double-team him. with a bull-strong guy, if you stick too close to him, you risk losing your teeth, injuring your chin, etc :D
fajardo and slaughter will even improve a lot more once they have a serious hardcorre barbell strength training.
click the link below to see the photo and observe the difference in height and body frame plus strength between Rabeh(Fil-Kuwaiti) , Jervy(Filipino) and Maierhoffer(Fil-Euro). no wonder Rabeh was so dominating. He reminds me of that Iranian center only shorter than the iranian. Rabeh's size is a stark reminder of why middle east countries are rapidly becoming a power in basketball. They have the genetics for it to begin with. Add a good coach(toroman) and a good program and you got super-Iran !
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/0926&272008/images/sports-pic03.jpg





keyword: Potential..

read examples:

Greg Slaughter-from last year's tallest CeSAFI benchwarmer to this year's most probable CeSAFI MVP

Junmar Fajardo-tried out for USPF, didn't make the cut despite his size. UC took a chance and now has 1 of the 2 most dominant big men in the CeSAFI. will most likely be number 2 in the MVP race behind Slaughter and will definitely make the Mythical Five as well.

[Blackie]

The big man has to be able to bench press at least 300 pounds.

[pachador]

among the young big men, i think thoss and eman are near or over that bench press 300 lb standard..


The big man has to be able to bench press at least 300 pounds.

[SkyWalker]

maybe you wanna take a look at this:

http://sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/09/26/sports/scouts.told.stay.away.html

seems like me and that Manila guy is in trouble..lol

By all means, whether the team mentioned in this article is in the UAAP or in the NCAA, they should get Junmar Fajardo out of the hands of CESAFI. Because I doubt it, AND I REALLY DOUBT IT, if UC and CESAFI will let Junmar play for the National Team in the developmental stage which will start anytime now when Mr. Toroman takes over the 2012 program.And remember CESAFI abandoned SBP. Though its kinda rude, this is the way it should be, Manila based schools such as Ateneo, FEU, DLSU can offer much more training. Remember ADMU bringing their whole team to the US for training. Just imagine if Junmar gets to train abroad. He'll be a more developed player.

[Dinamita]

lets just pray that these kids will make the right decision...

im hoping they will play in UAAP or NCAA...

[thadzonline]

By all means, whether the team mentioned in this article is in the UAAP or in the NCAA, they should get Junmar Fajardo out of the hands of CESAFI. Because I doubt it, AND I REALLY DOUBT IT, if UC and CESAFI will let Junmar play for the National Team in the developmental stage which will start anytime now when Mr. Toroman takes over the 2012 program.And remember CESAFI abandoned SBP. Though its kinda rude, this is the way it should be, Manila based schools such as Ateneo, FEU, DLSU can offer much more training. Remember ADMU bringing their whole team to the US for training. Just imagine if Junmar gets to train abroad. He'll be a more developed player.

consider not just skills training, but character as well..and I guess UC have made a very strong case for Junmar to stay..Don't get me wrong, but Junmar already said "NO" to the scout so I hope we all respect that

[SkyWalker]

consider not just skills training, but character as well..and I guess UC have made a very strong case for Junmar to stay..Don't get me wrong, but Junmar already said "NO" to the scout so I hope we all respect that

Well if that's the case, we will respect his decision. But the only thing we are hoping for, is that CESAFI and UC will let him play for the National team. Not just UC, but also UV for Greg Slaughter. SBP is now putting the pieces all together, I hope that the leadership of CESAFI will play their part. And I for one believe, that if both of them, JF and GS joins the RP developmental pool for 2012, UC, UV and CESAFI will also get the benefit and most of all the respect from other leagues.

[thadzonline]

Well if that's the case, we will respect his decision. But the only thing we are hoping for, is that CESAFI and UC will let him play for the National team. Not just UC, but also UV for Greg Slaughter. SBP is now putting the pieces all together, I hope that the leadership of CESAFI will play their part. And I for one believe, that if both of them, JF and GS joins the RP developmental pool for 2012, UC, UV and CESAFI will also get the benefit and most of all the respect from other leagues.

I suggest SBp create a pool in Cebu as part of the program..That way, even if they dont make it to the NT roster, they still get the opportunity without necessarily wasting a year of eligibility in the event they get cut

[rhk111]

I really feel both Junmar and Greg should move on. They've already proven themselves in Cebu, they need to go up the next level. It's like walking up the stairs, or a ladder. Once you've stepped off one step, you move on to the next.

The danger there, is that they get too complacent with how they play there in Cebu for years, then end up having a hard time adjusting to the next level. Adjusting to the next level takes time, something they may not have when they get older.

Otherwise, those two will just end up again like Sam Eman and Rino Berame.

[SkyWalker]

I suggest SBp create a pool in Cebu as part of the program..That way, even if they dont make it to the NT roster, they still get the opportunity without necessarily wasting a year of eligibility in the event they get cut

In my opinion, having a different pool in Cebu will be great. It will let SBP and the National Developmental pool to have a great look on the promising player mainly on the age-group. They will be able to single out the promising players, but the question is, what will be the action of CESAFI, if JF and GS was on the wish list of Toroman(if ever). Will they let them go to manila for training? Is the CESAFI tournament done as of this moment?

[thadzonline]

I really feel both Junmar and Greg should move on. They've already proven themselves in Cebu, they need to go up the next level. It's like walking up the stairs, or a ladder. Once you've stepped off one step, you move on to the next.

The danger there, is that they get too complacent with how they play there in Cebu for years, then end up having a hard time adjusting to the next level. Adjusting to the next level takes time, something they may not have when they get older.

Otherwise, those two will just end up again like Sam Eman and Rino Berame.

consider my friend that you only want them to move on in basketball. Junmar said no because he wants to get his associate's degree next year and then 2 more years to get his BS degree..Im sorry if he does not fit the way you want things for him, but please, respect what the kid wants. He deserves to make decisions for himself. As to Greg, Im sure he knows his options and actually takes time to talk to different folks about it. Dont force the issue, they deserve to decide for themselves. Let's not be to selfish and take that away from them as well

[thadzonline]

In my opinion, having a different pool in Cebu will be great. It will let SBP and the National Developmental pool to have a great look on the promising player mainly on the age-group. They will be able to single out the promising players, but the question is, what will be the action of CESAFI, if JF and GS was on the wish list of Toroman(if ever). Will they let them go to manila for training? Is the CESAFI tournament done as of this moment?

almost done, semifinals game 2 of best of 3 tomorrow..UC I doubt but GS for sure will be a source of pride for UV so they'll allow him

[SkyWalker]

consider my friend that you only want them to move on in basketball. Junmar said no because he wants to get his associate's degree next year and then 2 more years to get his BS degree..Im sorry if he does not fit the way you want things for him, but please, respect what the kid wants. He deserves to make decisions for himself. As to Greg, Im sure he knows his options and actually takes time to talk to different folks about it. Dont force the issue, they deserve to decide for themselves. Let's not be to selfish and take that away from them as well

Man, like rkh, we're all counting to these two guys, all we want is to have a very competitive National team, and we believe that this two players have what it takes to compete, thats the reason why we want them to take it to the next level. we know that this players are the jewel of Cebu/CESAFI. I hope you feel what im feeling, this two players can be greater if given the more advance training early on.

[thadzonline]

Man, like rkh, we're all counting to these two guys, all we want is to have a very competitive National team, and we believe that this two players have what it takes to compete, thats the reason why we want them to take it to the next level. we know that this players are the jewel of Cebu/CESAFI. I hope you feel what im feeling, this two players can be greater if given the more advance training early on.

yes, I understand what you feel..But what if they do a Gian who says he wants to get his medical degree first? Thats why Im saying, let's not take away their right to make their own decisions

[rhk111]

Well, just offering my opinion, and my advise. Ultimately, only time will tell if I'm right, or wrong.

If I'm wrong, then fine. But if I'm right, I would hate to see the opportunity to see such rare big men in Philippine basketball go to waste. Anyway, good luck to those two.

[nardy]

In my opinion, having a different pool in Cebu will be great. It will let SBP and the National Developmental pool to have a great look on the promising player mainly on the age-group. They will be able to single out the promising players, but the question is, what will be the action of CESAFI, if JF and GS was on the wish list of Toroman(if ever). Will they let them go to manila for training? Is the CESAFI tournament done as of this moment?

from what I remember in an article I read sometime ago, the SBP designated Ramon Fernandez to set-up a program and camp there in Cebu for promising players coming from the Visayas and Mindanao. So far there is no news what Mon Fernandez has done. This is in stark contrast with the programs now being done in Luzon by Coach Eric Altamirano with Alex Compton assisting him.

[nardy]

consider my friend that you only want them to move on in basketball. Junmar said no because he wants to get his associate's degree next year and then 2 more years to get his BS degree..Im sorry if he does not fit the way you want things for him, but please, respect what the kid wants. He deserves to make decisions for himself. As to Greg, Im sure he knows his options and actually takes time to talk to different folks about it. Dont force the issue, they deserve to decide for themselves. Let's not be to selfish and take that away from them as well

I do agree .... there is life after basketball. Making Education as a priority is something we should not debate on. This is somewhat the same scenario as
Gian Chiu who really wants to be a Doctor, even his High School coach in the US said we have to respect one's personal dream and ambition. Another thing, Jummar could be thinking of what happened to numerous basketball players who indeed become succesful in the PBA but after retiring had very difficult lives because they took for granted thier education.

[thadzonline]

Well, just offering my opinion, and my advise. Ultimately, only time will tell if I'm right, or wrong.

If I'm wrong, then fine. But if I'm right, I would hate to see the opportunity to see such rare big men in Philippine basketball go to waste. Anyway, good luck to those two.

whether you are right or wrong doesnt have anything to do with Junmar and what he wants to do with his life because in the final analysis, it is him who can say he did right or wrong..What's important is he takes responsibility for his choices and not necessarily feel bad because you thought he should have followed your advice..You dont have a right to tell him you supposedly offered the right advice..Life is what we make and see it so let him be..

[thadzonline]

http://www.basketballcebu.com/23september2008.htm

stats for Game 1 of UC versus USJ-R matchup

[thadzonline]

http://www.basketballcebu.com/apps/photos/album.jsp?albumID=141100

future of Cebu basketball?

[nardy]

In the SBP Newsletter they listed the initial group of players included in the SBP National Youth Program.

Would just like to know if anybody know these kids and how good are they.

Cebu Boys 16-17 years old
John Michael Abad
Elmer Cabahug
Alfred Codilla
John Philip Delos Santos
Marty John Pearce
RG Rios
Sam Jordan Hermosa
Robert Codilla
Jeff Ryan Alviva
Jaime Henri Babiera
Pelayo Cabanero III
Nilton John Olida
Eugene Viagedor
Leymund Babad
Chobby Dano
Kingston Virgil Ang

Cebu Boys 14-15 years old
Miko Marquez
Clint Munez
Rhafyy Octotbre
James Regalado
Joseph Roma
Jerry Seno
Chino Uy Jr.
Kareem Alocillo
John Vincent Sepe
Jasper Diaz
Jay Christian Dela Cruz
Quo Anthony Arong
James Niel Sumayong
Sean Emmanuel Nicdao
Edcor Pippoy Marata
Kim Jordan Nuneza
Rene Sta. Maria
Dominic Nazareno

Davao Boys 16-17 years old
Paul James De Mesa
Marius Martinez
Erickson Galagcas
Kurt Brian Alino
Gryann Mendoza
Gary Eben
Miguel Plata
John Michael Santia
Felix Carmelo Pepito
Ranel Marc Sencio
Jovel Dayap
Gendarme Adalid
Marc Serapio
Eric Matthew Cabillas
Kristofer Lacida
Narel Pinto
John David Orbeta
John Vic Rusiana
Jonathan Tonggal

Davao Boys 14-15 years old
Mark Regalado
Chuck Orbase
Ferdinand Velos
Larry Mandalay
Martin Delfinado
Baser Amer
Gil John Santos
Richard Ybalio
Van Adam Abatayo
Hermogenes Maning Jr.
Bryan Vic Serafin
Ryan Vic Serafin
Paolo Dailisan
Jess Linus Evangelio
Nico Clyde Te
Marlon Adrian Te
Ronald Bangoy
Rocky Mejos
Rapahel Nayve
Louie Ibarra
Mario Bonleon

[thadzonline]

In the SBP Newsletter they listed the initial group of players included in the SBP National Youth Program.

Would just like to know if anybody know these kids and how good are they.

Cebu Boys 16-17 years old
John Michael Abad
Elmer Cabahug
Alfred Codilla
John Philip Delos Santos
Marty John Pearce
RG Rios
Sam Jordan Hermosa
Robert Codilla
Jeff Ryan Alviva
Jaime Henri Babiera
Pelayo Cabanero III
Nilton John Olida
Eugene Viagedor
Leymund Babad
Chobby Dano
Kingston Virgil Ang

Cebu Boys 14-15 years old
Miko Marquez
Clint Munez
Rhafyy Octotbre
James Regalado
Joseph Roma
Jerry Seno
Chino Uy Jr.
Kareem Alocillo
John Vincent Sepe
Jasper Diaz
Jay Christian Dela Cruz
Quo Anthony Arong
James Niel Sumayong
Sean Emmanuel Nicdao
Edcor Pippoy Marata
Kim Jordan Nuneza
Rene Sta. Maria
Dominic Nazareno






the Cebu list is not updated, there's no way Sam jordan Hermosa can be 17 or younger..lol and so is Robert COdilla

John Michael Abad--curiously he's no longer in UV juniors, could be in training pool for UV seniors

Elmer Mykkiel Cabahug--in UV seniors, seeing limited playing time, 6'1 SG

Alfred Codilla--UC juniors, among the guys they rely on

Marty John Pearce--UC juniors, could be CeSAFI juniors MVP this year, 5'9 combo guard

RG Rios

Sam Jordan Hermosa--USC seniors, no way he is 17 and younger, 6'0 SF

Robert Codilla--2nd year USC Warrior, sooo thin averages 2.2 ppg in CeSAFi this season, 6'3 C

Jeff Ryan Alviva--limited minutes at UC seniors, a small PG, 5'8, has not scored a single point in CeSAFI 2008


Pelayo Cabanero III--averages less than a point for the worst team of CeSAFI 2008(CIT), 6'4 C

Nilton John Otida--USC Warriors' last cut for CeSAFI 2008, solid SG converted to a PG, 5'9..heart and soul of USC juniors a year ago

Leymund Babad--the only thing I notice is he's got such a big mouth and I really find his big mouth annoying in games when he does virtually nothing, a 6'0 obese SF

Clint Munez-USJ-R High senior so no way he is 15 or younger. could be joining USJ-R seniors next year..solid post guy for USJ-R juniors

Rhafyy Octotbre--UV juniors, are you sure he is 15 or younger, 6'2 or 6'3 C but just got injured

John Vincent Sepe--USC juniors, but looks like among the older guys, wing

Quo Anthony Arong--USPF juniors, plays on the block, could be around 6'0 or 6'1

Edcor Pippoy Marata--UV juniors, Ricric's nephew, good PG

[nardy]

thadzonline .... pardon me if it's outdated, I just got the names from the BAP-SBP Newsletter dated March 2008 which I found in http://www.sbp.com.ph. There were even pictures of the players selected.

From what I read on a separate news article the National Basketball Training Center was launched January 22, 2008 at the City Sports Club Cebu. Ramon Fernandez was appointed by SBP to head NBTC there in Cebu.

It is said the players who have been selected for the NBTC program, all 38 of them, coming from University of the Visayas, University of San Carlos, University of San Jose-Recoletos, Sacred Heart School-Jesuits, University of Cebu.

I remember there were talks that in the past, the BAP would make the age younger for the players that are included in the Youth Teams. This is also the same tactic that has long been accused against the Chinese players. I do hope this is not what Don Ramon plans to do.

But on a different note, SBP Executive Director and Serbian coach Rajko Toroman are going to Cebu today to check on the Cebuano players.

[pachador]

thadz

I read in the news that Toroman and Eala will be in cebu this weekend to check-out Slaughter, Fajardo, and other bisayan big men. any news ?
thanks

[alex15]

Marty John Pearce--UC juniors, could be CeSAFI juniors MVP this year, 5'9 combo guard

Marty Pearce is a black-american but grow up in Cebu...He is my teammate in POWERPLAY for 3 years, Coached by Villanil( don't know if this the correct spelling)....He is very quick and dribbles the ball very wall...

Mario Bonleon- watch out for this kid, he is just 14 yrs. old and is around 6'2
-6'4 being recruited by la salle and ateneo....

[thadzonline]

thadz

I read in the news that Toroman and Eala will be in cebu this weekend to check-out Slaughter, Fajardo, and other bisayan big men. any news ?
thanks

so I guess they were the guys mentioned in the article..I hope CeSAFI wont be too selfish for the national cause

[thadzonline]

Marty Pearce is a black-american but grow up in Cebu...He is my teammate in POWERPLAY for 3 years, Coached by Villanil( don't know if this the correct spelling)....He is very quick and dribbles the ball very wall...

Mario Bonleon- watch out for this kid, he is just 14 yrs. old and is around 6'2
-6'4 being recruited by la salle and ateneo....

yup thats coach Larry Villanil based in Lapulapu..I hope he also finds 13 year old 6'1" Jesus Grijaldo there at SACS..

btw, I heard there are actually 2 Mario Bonleons, 1 is 6'2 and the other 6'4..can you confirm this?

[alex15]

yup thats coach Larry Villanil based in Lapulapu..I hope he also finds 13 year old 6'1" Jesus Grijaldo there at SACS..

btw, I heard there are actually 2 Mario Bonleons, 1 is 6'2 and the other 6'4..can you confirm this?

I graduated their in SACS....The gym that we used to play is just beside our school....

That's not true, I only know one Mario Bonleon......

Hey Thadz! Is this Jesus Grijaldo is good?

[thadzonline]

I graduated their in SACS....The gym that we used to play is just beside our school....

That's not true, I only know one Mario Bonleon......

Hey Thadz! Is this Jesus Grijaldo is good?

he is 13 years old, very trainable age..he plays for SACS in the Hapee Online tournament..

So Mario Bonleon played for both Ateneo de Davao and Holy Cross in Davao?

[alex15]

he is 13 years old, very trainable age..he plays for SACS in the Hapee Online tournament..

So Mario Bonleon played for both Ateneo de Davao and Holy Cross in Davao?

I'm not sure...I'll ask him, I saw him last year playing for Holy Child of Davao...

[nardy]

It’s UV vs. USJ-R anew
By Gabby G. Malagar
Monday, September 29, 2008


Seven-time champion University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers earned an eighth straight trip to the championship round in the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (CESAFI) basketball tournament.

This time the Lancers will clash with the University of San Jose Recoletos (USJR) Jaguars, whom they toppled in three previous meetings for the crown.

The best-of-five championship series opens on Wednesday at the Cebu Coliseum.

The Lancers who struggled in the first period, demolished the University of San Carlos (USC) Warriors, 72-52, while the Jaguars outgunned the University of Cebu (UC) Webmasters, 85-80, in the other semifinal match-up.

UV and USJ-R met for the title for three consecutive years from 2002 to 2004.

Defending secondary champions UV Baby Lancers also returned to the finals after scoring a 90-87 victory over the University of Southern Philippines-Foundation (USPF) Baby Panthers.

The UV bantams will play against the Universitry of Cebu (UC) Junior Webmasters, who maintained their mastery over the Cebu Institute of Technology (CIT) Wildkittens.

Trailing at the start of the second period, 22-17 after a basket by Enrico Llanto, the Lancers erupted with an 18-2 run and took the lead for good, 35-24 at the halftime mark.

Only Michael Cantonao was able to score for the Warriors in the second period.

When the Lancers’ lead ballooned to 14 points, 40-26, the Warriors staged their own minor rally by retaliating with a 9-0 run to come within five points, 35-40 but things suddenly changed when Cantonao was whistled for an offensive foul against the Lancer’s Bonifer Sendrijas.

Ritchum Dennison sizzling from the floor to lead the Lancers with 22 points while behemoth Greg Slaughter and Edrian Lao very well complimented on offense as they dominated the post unmindful of Llanto’s presence.

Lao had 11 points for the Lancers while slaughter, Von Harry Lanete and Chris Victor Diputado all finished with 10 points each.

Only Harold Cincoflores and Harlow Villanil did not finish in double figures out of the eight Lancers who scored.

John Emel Rowe, who tried to keep the Warriors alive, had 11 points and was the only bright hope for their offense when the others were having an off night.

The monumental bust was San Jordan Hermosa, who was scoreless in the entire game, while the presence of Giovanni Padillo, Joven Cid Cortes and Llanto only had a little impact as the Warriors’ bid to forge a rubbematch proved futile.

“I am preparing well for our defense against the Jaguars, but it is a secret. The way the Jaguars defended Jun Mar Fajardo gave me an idea on how to utilize Slaughter at the post”, said UV coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug.

Meanwhile, the Webmasters gave the Jaguars a hard time, but experience and cohesiveness allowed USJ-R to pull away with a hard earned win.

The Webmasters had a chance to steal the game in the closing moments, but just when it mattered most, their shooting went sour.

Rookie Kurt Amores had a breakout game leading the Jaguars with 16 points while Luther Luke Justiniani and Lyndon Gudez added 15 points apiece but the most important factor was the double-double performance of Armand Ponce who had 11 points and 11 assists.

Fajardo, who fouled out at the start of the fourth period in Game 1, led the Webmasters with 30 points that drew the attention of Manila coaches in the likes PBL coach Junel Baculi and Letran assistant coach Mel Alas.

The scores:
First Game: Jrs.
UV (90) – Auditor 33, Fajardo 22, Cabañero 20, Arcenal 5, Ybañez 4, Brigoli 2, Marata 2, Felisario 2

USPF (87) – Ferraren 27, Demana 11, Cañete 10, Arong 9, Batucan 8, Vergas 8, Nudalo 7, Caguindangan 5, Climaco 2 Second Game: Jrs.

UC (89) – Taboada 20, Pogoy 19, Pearce 16, Ampoon 13, De Lara 9, Palileo 6, Labolabo 2, Solon 2

CIT (83) – Tallo 20, Getalla 19, Brigoli 15, Almario 12, Nalos 7, Taghoy 6, Sanchez 4

Third Game: Srs.
USJR (85) — Amores 16, Justiniani 15, Gudez 15, Ponce 11, Delfino 10, Pogoy 6, Gabas 4, Malinao 2, Villaver 2, Bibera 2, Pateño 2

UC (80) – Fajardo 30, Abella 16, Ramos 11, Quilantang 11, Pao 8, Luceño 4, Mohamad 3

Fourth Game: Srs.
UV (72) – Dennison 22, Lao 11, Diputado 10, Lanete 10, Slaughter 10, Cincoflores 4, Villanil 3

USC (52) – Rowe 11, Bautista 8, Cantonao 8, Padillo 7, Cortes 4, Bakker 4, Joven 4, Llanto 4

[Dinamita]

wow.. 10 pts for slaughter?.. infront of the scouts?..

i wonder why?!..

:confused:

good job for FAJARDO for impressing the scouts.. :D
tho they lost the game...

[thadzonline]

wow.. 10 pts for slaughter?.. in front of the scouts?..

i wonder why?!..

:confused:

good job for FAJARDO for impressing the scouts.. :D
tho they lost the game...

Emel Rowe solidly defended SLaughter on the block while USC also used some double teaming off UV's 2-guard and paid dearly for it as Ritchum Dennison and UV's shooters hit their mark when the Warriors failed to recover on time off the double on GS

[Dinamita]

looks like he needs more work...

he cant even get pass to a 6'4 guy guarding him?..:confused:

[ramonmagdalo]

I'm not sure...I'll ask him, I saw him last year playing for Holy Child of Davao...

He does play for Holy Child of Davao... at 6'2, he handles the ball very well and has a good outside range

[ricodgame]

looks like he needs more work...

he cant even get pass to a 6'4 guy guarding him?..:confused:


yes you are right.. he is 6'11 he should at least score 20+ against 6'4

[UnitedAmeircanTikiTiki]

wow.. 10 pts for slaughter?.. infront of the scouts?..

i wonder why?!..

:confused:

good job for FAJARDO for impressing the scouts.. :D
tho they lost the game...


I think he did not have to score that game because he was passing it more to his teammates off the the double team.. And hey the more important thing there is that they won the game by 20 points..

I think winning is more important than scoring 30 in a losing effort..

[nardy]

I think he did not have to score that game because he was passing it more to his teammates off the the double team.. And hey the more important thing there is that they won the game by 20 points..

I think winning is more important than scoring 30 in a losing effort..


You are very correct there, I would always go for a guy whose contribution is to make his co-players look better and have his team win, more than a player who had big stat numbers but is unable to lead his team to victory.

It's like a Greg Oden or Kevin Durant kind of decision.

[pachador]

per thadz, he was double-teamed by the 6'4" guy and another defender.

its pretty hard forcing the shot when you are double-teamed. often-times, its better to pass it to the open teammate which is what slaughter did in that game.

[UnitedAmeircanTikiTiki]

per thadz, he was double-teamed by the 6'4" guy and another defender.

its pretty hard forcing the shot when you are double-teamed. often-times, its better to pass it to the open teammate which is what slaughter did in that game.

that's the reason they won the game by 20 points..

[rhk111]

First of all, that's just one game. You should look at Slaughter's average, not just output for one game.

Another is that there may not have been any need for him to score that many points, because the team was doing very well, anyway.

I think you can determine how well a player really plays, by the way he plays in important games. A good example: "The Rabeh-lation" scored 31 points, in a CHAMPIONSHIP game, helping his team win the game. It is a game wherein the players are as motivated as they can be; The coaches bring out their best plays and strategies. If a player can score 31 points off that, in a league like the UAAP, then that tells how good he really is.

[thadzonline]

per thadz, he was double-teamed by the 6'4" guy and another defender.

its pretty hard forcing the shot when you are double-teamed. often-times, its better to pass it to the open teammate which is what slaughter did in that game.
Game 2 UV vs USC semifinals:

*Greg Slaughter 10 Points, 8 rebs, 1 ast, 1 blk, 1 foul, 2/7 FG's, 4/6 FT's
*Emel Rowe 11 pts, 12 rebs, 6 TO's, no fouls, 1/3 3PFG's, 4/7 2PFG's
*UV's 4 guards(Diputado, Lanete, Cincoflores, Dennison) had at least 3 steals each
*Only Rowe scored in double figures for USC
*Ritchum Dennison topscored for UV with 22

in the other semis matchup, Junmar Fajardo had 30 points, 16 boards, 2 assists and 2 blocks in a losing effort, 11/23 FG's, 8/14 FT's

[vanguard]

Impressive showing by Junmar Fajardo. UC can become a solid contender in the years to come. And let those scouts keep on coming. UC will keep a strong hold on Fajardo.

[nardy]

Canete tows USPF
By Jonas Panerio
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 15:28:00 10/01/2008

Not minding the circumstances under which it was playing, the University of Southern Philippines Foundation (USPF) Baby Panthers played a ferocious game and came away with a come-from-behind 81-74 win over the Cebu Institute of Technology (CIT) Wildkittens in Game 1 of the Cesafi best-of-three series for third place in the juniors division on Tuesday at the Cebu Coliseum.

USPF consistently led in the first half but suddenly lost steam in the second half.

Fortunately, the Baby Panthers had Peter Canete to turn to as the burly forward scored 11 of the team's final 13 points to salvage the victory.

With Canete clicking from behind the three-point arc, the Baby Panthers raced off to a 37-30 halftime lead, which was punctuated by three consecutive three-pointers.

However, the Wildkittens clawed back to life as Jeffrey Taghoy, Bridrik Brigoli and Kenneth Getalla helped the team take the lead, 51-43, before the Baby Panthers had a brief surge of their own to peg the score at 51-53, entering the final canto.

There, the two squads traded baskets and the lead went back and forth until Canete came around to deal CIT the death blow.

Taghoy paced CIT with 19 points while Brigoli had 16 points. CIT's explosive freshman Mark Jayven Tallo was held to just 11 points. Game 2 is set on Saturday.

BOX SCORES:

USPF (81) - Canete 23, Feraren 15, Arong 13, Batucan 12, Vergas 6, Caguindangan 3, Silao 2, Labares 2, Climaco 2, Nudalo 2, Lambujon 2.

CIT (74) - Taghoy 19, Birgoli 16, Tallo 11, Getalla 10, Nalos 10, Onting 4, Almario 4.

[nardy]

UV, UC centers lead Cesafi MVP race
by Correspondent Jonas Panerio
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 15:26:00 10/01/2008


The towering behemoths of the University of Cebu (UC) and the University of the Visayas (UV) are locked in a heated battle for this year's Most Valuable Player (MVP) award as Junmar Fajardo and Greg Slaughter top the league in statistical points (SPs) gained heading into the finals this week.

Although UC's 6-foot-9 center Fajardo tops the pack with 472.5 SPs, Slaughter might be tipped to win it all since aside from accumulating 467 SPs, he has also led his team to the final round, where the Lancers are gunning for an unprecedented eighth straight title.

Fajardo's Webmasters on the other hand, has been relegated to playing for third place against the University of San Carlos (USC) Warriors.

Also making it into the top five are Armand Ponce and Luther Justiniani of this year's other finalists, the University of San Jose-Recoletos (USJ-R) Jaguars, and Edward Pao, of the UC.

[nardy]

Thursday, October 02, 2008
UV hunts for 8th title

The UV Green Lancers are out to underscore their dominance in the collegiate basketball when it battles a new finals challenger, the University of San Jose Recoletos Jaguars, in Game 1 of the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (Cesafi) in their best-of-five finals series tonight at the Cebu Coliseum.

If the USJ-R Jaguars think they have the Green Lancers all figured out, they should think again as UV head coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug assured his massive supporters that he still has enough tricks up his sleeves to defend their title.

“I will be unleashing my secret weapon come the finals,” Cabahug said slyly after sweeping their semifinals over the University of San Carlos last Sunday.

Cabahug hinted, without giving away the secret, that he will still be banking on his reliable backcourt veterans Von Lañete, Ritchum Dennison and Chris Diputado and with the help of center Greg Slaughter.

Although it seems like a routine being in their eighth finals appearance, Cabahug said that they are in no way, buckling down.

“We are defending this title as ferociously as we have in the past,” Cabahug said.

The burden of finally evicting UV out of the top spot now rests on the shoulders of the veteran-laden USJ-R and head coach Edito Salacot, who is on his first finals in the collegiate division.

Salacot’s squad is also considered one of the toughest contenders for the crown, having a battle-toughened crew, who are ripe for the picking.

“If there is a year that USJ-R should win, it is this year because we have enough experience and this is our last chance because most of us will be graduating and we want to leave the school with something to remember us by,” said Jan Malinao, who is one of the eight players graduating this school year.

Leading USJ-R’s charge will be an equally strong backcourt of Armand Ponce and Luther Justiniani with streak shooter Lyndon Gudez, Manny Gabas, Jan Malinao, Randy Pogoy, Jabe Delfino and Kurt Amores. (MCB)

[nardy]

Thursday, October 02, 2008
USC North faces SHS-J for Milo title

THE University of San Carlos-North and Sacred Heart School-Jesuits arranged a championship showdown of the Milo Basketball Efficiency and Scientific Training (Best) tournament after winning their respective semifinals yesterday at the Capitol Parish Gym.

Defending champion SHS-J earned the first finals berth after disposing the University of Southern Philippines Foundation Baby Panthers, 63-48.

On the other hand, USC took a longer route as they had to pass through the eye of the needle before escaping the University of Cebu Baby Webmasters, 66-64, in extra time in the other semis match-up.

Because of their loss, UC lost the chance of erasing the stigma of their finals debacle last year, where they lost the title to SHS-J, not because they were inferior team, but because they were found to have fielded in an ineligible player.

The UC vs. USC game was a fierce battle that saw the lead changing sides before a 57-all deadlock forced overtime.

In the extra period, it was USC’s Mike Rita who sealed the deal as he scored on a layup, boosted by three charities, to set the stage for their victory.

Sherwin Co led the way for USC with 17 points, while Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. stalwart Gerald Ampoon scored 19 for UC.

It was actually a double-double for USC NC, as its younger counterparts in the SBP also made it to the final round after defeating sister team USC South Campus, 47-39, to face Don Bosco College in the finals.

DBC defeated SHS-J, 44-42 in the other semifinal encounter in the SBP.

Meanwhile, Milo Best will feature a raffle promo as a sidelight to celebrate its 30th year anniversary, where they will be giving out television sets.

The raffle is open to anyone who will watch the final games. To qualify for the promo, those who will watch the games are advised to fill fill-up the other side of Milo Actigen-E labels with their complete names, address, contact numbers and signatures and drop these in boxes that will be at the venue. (MCB)

[nardy]

Lancers slam Jaguars in opener
By Gabby G. Malagar
Friday, October 3, 2008


Six-foot-11 skyscraper Gregory Slaughter proved to be tough and indestructible as he powered seven-time champion University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers to an 86-74 victory over the University of San Jose-Recoletos (USJ-R) Jaguars in Game 1 of their best-of-five finals for the seniors division title of the 8th Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation, Inc. (CESAFI) basketball season witnessed by a jampacked crowd last night at the Cebu Coliseum.

Games tomorrow
(Cebu Coliseum)

Game 2
1 pm CIT vs. USPF (For third, Jrs.)

2:30 pm UC vs. UV (Finals, Jrs.)

4 pm USC vs. UC (For third, Srs.)

6:30 pm USJ-R vs. UV (Finals, Srs.)

In the juniors division, however, the UV Baby Lancers lost to the University of Cebu (UC) Junior Webmasters, 87-91, in a very exciting game decided only in the final three minutes of the contest.

The Lancers, who are gunning for an unprecedented eight CESAFI crown, needed only a decisive third quarter breakaway to rip the game apart with a 23-point lead twice, the last was at 76-53, early in the fourth period. The Jaguars could no longer come close from there onwards.

Slaughter threw all his defenders into foul trouble to the frustration on the Jaguars. Actually, coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug did not field Slaughter as starting unit and they nearly paid for it as the Jaguars jumped off to a sizzling 16-6 start.

But Slaughter, who paced the Lancers with 23 points, did not stay long at the bench and came in at the 6:43 mark of the first quarter.

Slaughter quickly responded with six straight points to hand back the lead to the Lancers, 18-16. With Slaughter dominating the post, the rest of his teammates gained too much confidence and contributed well in the offense.

Von Harry Lanete, playing his last season for the Lancers, had a silent 14 points including crucial buzzer-beating baskets. His leadership also played a big role in their victory.

A very disappointed Jaguars were accounted for 18 turnovers that were the major cause of their collapse. Their reliables Luther Luke Justiniani and Manny Gabas as well as rookie Kurt Amores were monumental busts.

Justiniani missed all his eight attempts from the field and his four points came from the free throw line. Lyndon Gudez and Jabe Delfino were the only bright spots for the Jaguars as they scored 22 and 17 points, respectively.

Earlier, Gerald Ampoon led the Junior Webmasters with 20 points including a crucial lay-up as they drew first blood in their own race-to-three championship series.

Arvie Cabañero had 28 points for the Baby Lancers, while Glennson Ybañez had 18 points and Aldwyn Felisario chipped in 16 in a losing cause.

The scores
First game

UC (91) - Ampoon 20, Pogoy 17, Pearce 14, Tindoy 10, Taboada 9, De Lara 7, Luzon 5, Palielo 4, Solon 2, Labolabo 2UV (87) - Cabañero 28, Ybañez 18, Felisario 16, Fajardo 8, Auditor 6, Brigoli 4, Llenes 2, Bonjie 2, Arcenal 2 Halftime: 53-43

Second game:
UV (86) - Slaughter 23, Lanete 14, Diputado 14, Cincoflores 8, Lasala 7, Dennison 7, Sendrijas 6, Lao 3, Villanil 3

USJ-R (74) - Gudez 22, Delfino 17, Ponce 13, Malinao 9, Gabas 5, Justiniani 4, Amores 2, De la Peña 2

Halftime: 41-37

[brad]

yes you are right.. he is 6'11 he should at least score 20+ against 6'4
Sports
Lancers slam Jaguars in opener
By Gabby G. Malagar
Friday, October 3, 2008


Six-foot-11 skyscraper Gregory Slaughter proved to be tough and indestructible as he powered seven-time champion University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers to an 86-74 victory over the University of San Jose-Recoletos (USJ-R) Jaguars in Game 1 of their best-of-five finals for the seniors division title of the 8th Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation, Inc. (CESAFI) basketball season witnessed by a jampacked crowd last night at the Cebu Coliseum.

Games tomorrow
(Cebu Coliseum)

Game 2
1 pm CIT vs. USPF (For third, Jrs.)

2:30 pm UC vs. UV (Finals, Jrs.)

4 pm USC vs. UC (For third, Srs.)

6:30 pm USJ-R vs. UV (Finals, Srs.)

In the juniors division, however, the UV Baby Lancers lost to the University of Cebu (UC) Junior Webmasters, 87-91, in a very exciting game decided only in the final three minutes of the contest.

The Lancers, who are gunning for an unprecedented eight CESAFI crown, needed only a decisive third quarter breakaway to rip the game apart with a 23-point lead twice, the last was at 76-53, early in the fourth period. The Jaguars could no longer come close from there onwards.

Slaughter threw all his defenders into foul trouble to the frustration on the Jaguars. Actually, coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug did not field Slaughter as starting unit and they nearly paid for it as the Jaguars jumped off to a sizzling 16-6 start.

But Slaughter, who paced the Lancers with 23 points, did not stay long at the bench and came in at the 6:43 mark of the first quarter.

Slaughter quickly responded with six straight points to hand back the lead to the Lancers, 18-16. With Slaughter dominating the post, the rest of his teammates gained too much confidence and contributed well in the offense.

Von Harry Lanete, playing his last season for the Lancers, had a silent 14 points including crucial buzzer-beating baskets. His leadership also played a big role in their victory.

A very disappointed Jaguars were accounted for 18 turnovers that were the major cause of their collapse. Their reliables Luther Luke Justiniani and Manny Gabas as well as rookie Kurt Amores were monumental busts.

Justiniani missed all his eight attempts from the field and his four points came from the free throw line. Lyndon Gudez and Jabe Delfino were the only bright spots for the Jaguars as they scored 22 and 17 points, respectively.

Earlier, Gerald Ampoon led the Junior Webmasters with 20 points including a crucial lay-up as they drew first blood in their own race-to-three championship series.

Arvie Cabañero had 28 points for the Baby Lancers, while Glennson Ybañez had 18 points and Aldwyn Felisario chipped in 16 in a losing cause.

The scores
First game

UC (91) - Ampoon 20, Pogoy 17, Pearce 14, Tindoy 10, Taboada 9, De Lara 7, Luzon 5, Palielo 4, Solon 2, Labolabo 2UV (87) - Cabañero 28, Ybañez 18, Felisario 16, Fajardo 8, Auditor 6, Brigoli 4, Llenes 2, Bonjie 2, Arcenal 2 Halftime: 53-43

Second game:
UV (86) - Slaughter 23, Lanete 14, Diputado 14, Cincoflores 8, Lasala 7, Dennison 7, Sendrijas 6, Lao 3, Villanil 3

USJ-R (74) - Gudez 22, Delfino 17, Ponce 13, Malinao 9, Gabas 5, Justiniani 4, Amores 2, De la Peña 2

Halftime: 41-37

Points doesnt matter its the matter of winning

[rtarheelgirl]

im smellin another green victory here...

[nardy]

UV closes in on eighth CESAFI title
By Gabby G. Malagar
Sunday, October 5, 2008


Moments after he was honored as the league's MVP, 6-foot-11 man mountain Gregory Slaughter delivered another monstrous performance, charting a game-high 29 points as seven-time champion University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers scored a repeat 71-61 win over the University of San Jose-Recoletos (USJ-R) Jaguars to take a commanding 2-0 lead in their best-of-five finals series in the 8th Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation, Inc. (CESAFI) basketball season last night at the Cebu Coliseum.

The Lancers, thus, moved just one win away from completing an unprecented eight straight CESAFI title. They can achieve that historic feat via sweep in tomorrow's Game 3 that will be covered by Solar Sports and will be aired on Tuesday beggining at 5 pm.

Slaughter automatically made it to elite Mythical Five cast alongside teammate Von Harry Lanete, Jun Mar Fajardo of UC and Armand Ponce and Luther Luke Justiniani of USJ-R.

Earlier, the Baby Lancers also nailed a 10-point victory, 91-81, against the University of Cebu (UC) Junior Webmasters to even their own race-to-3 series for the juniors division crown at one game apiece. UC's John Marty Pearce was named MVP in the secondary level and was joined in the Mythical Five by teammate Roger Pogoy, Mark Jayven Tallo of CIT and Arvie Cabañero and John Michael Auditor of UV.

The Jaguars actually gave the Lancers a hard time as they dominated the game for more than three quarters. They could have played differently, but their star player Luther Luke Justiani was again a picture of disappointment for the Josenians. He was again held off to only four points in a horrendous 0-of-13 shooting from the field. He missed all his eight attempts from the 3-point land.

Obviously, Slaughter's presence have changed everything including the attempts made by the Jaguars.

Surprisingly Slaughter came up with moves he never showed before, including an acrobatic shot in the third period, where he arched his back just to make the shot. He also made another slam dunk which brought the house down but also got him a technical foul for hanging on too long.

Leading by 12 points with just a few seconds gone by in the third period on a triple by Ranulfo Malinao, the Lancers slowly but surely crept back to seize the driver's seat, 52-51, on a undergoal stab by Slaughter to start the fourth period.

The Jaguars quickly countered with five straight points from Jerome Villaver to regain a 56-52 lead with still 8:27 to play, but that proved to be their last hurrah.

The Lancers also replied with a 5-0 blast to grab the lead for good, 57-56, on a basket by Bonifer Sendrijas heading into the final seven-minute mark of the contest. Sendrijas was the only other double-digit scorer for UV with 12 points.

Von Lañete, who was a virtual non-entity in the first three periods, stepped up when it mattered most as he and another veteran, Bonifer Sendrijas inititated a 10-0 rally, for UV to take the lead for good, 62-56.

In this stretch, which happened in a matter of two minutes, Lañete scored two triples—his only points for the game—to boost UV’s win.

John Malinao and Lyndon Gudez were the top scorers for the Jaguars with 13 and 11 points, respectively.

Earlier, the battle for third became just as intense as the fight for the title as the winner will get a chance to play in the Champions League. The UC Webmasters stayed alive in the race for third after pulling off an 87-78 victory in overtime victory over the Univesity of San Carlos (USC) Warriors. Leymund Babad and Edward Pao led UC with 14 points each, while Jansen Abella added 13.

In the secondary division, University of Southern Philippines-Foundation (USPF) Baby Panthers swept CIT Wildkittens, 84-82, to clinch the third place trophy.

[brad]

Sunday, October 05, 2008
UV's Slaughter named Cesafi MVP

GREGORY Slaughter is finally reaping the rewards of all his hard work. After being buried in the shadows of the University of the Visayas Green Lancers’ star players during as a freshman last year, Slaughter finally broke out of the shadows and took his place in the limelight as he won his second Most Valuable Player award in the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc.(Cesafi)

Slaughter, the 6-foot-11 prized center of UV, was awarded the season MVP yesterday, to add to the other MVP trophy he got during the All-Stars game.

Slaughter was also named into the Mythical 5 along with teammate Von Lañete, USJ-R’s Luther Justiniani, Armand Ponce and another star center, Junmar Fajardo of University of Cebu.

Team effort

However Slaughter said he grabbed the MVP honors not because of his individual effort, but because of the entire Green Lancers.

Winning the MVP hasn’t sunk in due to his focus on winning Game 2 of the Cesafi finals, but the Filipino-American, humbly credited his teammates, who helped him get the honor.

“The team has absolutely everything to do with this because Fajardo has better statistics than I have but making it to the finals gave me the edge. But we wouldn’t have reached the finals if not because of the combined efforts of the team,” Slaughter said.

The Mythical 5 was determined after collating all of the statistical points (SP) of all players since the start of the season until the semifinals.

Fajardo came out with the dominant SP. Officials, however, voted Slaughter for his huge contribution in steering UV to its eighth straight finals appearance. (MCB)

[thadzonline]

CeSAFI 2008 Finals Stats for Games 1 and 2:

http://www.basketballcebu.com/2october2008.htm
http://www.basketballcebu.com/4october2008.htm
__________________

:)

[brad]

CeSAFI 2008 Finals Stats for Games 1 and 2:

http://www.basketballcebu.com/2october2008.htm
http://www.basketballcebu.com/4october2008.htm
__________________

:)
Thadz any update for the game 3 finals cesafi?

[rtarheelgirl]

any update on the 3rd game?

[ankle breaker]

UV has history of sweeping the finals when against the jaguars. looks like history will repeat itself UV will be crowned as champs this year via sweep at the expense of the jaguars.

[thadzonline]

Jaguars rout UV 86-53 in Game 3 limiting Greg Slaughter and Ritchum Dennison to 2 points between them

[thadzonline]

Finals game 3 stats:

http://www.basketballcebu.com/6october2008.htm

Justiniani, who scored a total of only 11 points in the 1st 2 games submits a game high 25 points along with a rebound, 3 assists and 4 steals

Greg Slaughter, averaging 26 points in UV's 2 wins, scores a measly 2 points with 8 boards, 1 assist and 1 block in 1/6 FG(17%)

UV's Dennison, usually UV's outside sniper and recipient of many kickout passes off the double on GS at the post missed all 3 shots and was scoreless

[ricodgame]

hey thadz, where is rowe now? u think he can crack into any pbl team rosters? i mean you used to hyped this guy.. But with mediocre stats in CESAFI (7.5ppg, 5.1rpg, 1.3apg, 0.7spg, 0.1bpg) you think can he be useful in future teams in the PBA, PBL or even LIGA?

[ankle breaker]

maybe emel can answer us. he's a member of interbasket too. his stats may not look good in papers but there are other things that can't be seen where he's very reliable: leadership and poise. USC played most of the elims and semis without MVP enrico llanto because of injury. yet rowe took the stride in acting as the leader even if he's a rookie in the team and his team mates responded pretty well.

[thadzonline]

hey thadz, where is rowe now? u think he can crack into any pbl team rosters? i mean you used to hyped this guy.. But with mediocre stats in CESAFI (7.5ppg, 5.1rpg, 1.3apg, 0.7spg, 0.1bpg) you think can he be useful in future teams in the PBA, PBL or even LIGA?


His numbers in the CeSAFI this season is not that great. But he numbers usually does not show it. Remember that he came in late and had little time to fully gel with the team, this I believe somehow affected his stats. Also, he is being forced to play off-position. Being the tallest guy at USC(6'4"), the wingman is forced to play down low, which is he is least effective. I felt too, that he applied for the PBL Draft too soon despite being hinted by several coaches that it's not time yet. He did not get picked and as of the last time we talked, he wasn't signed yet. I don't know where he is going now that his initial foray into the PBL didn't yield the best results. Will he be trying out in Liga? I know he is a practice player of the Niños, but I also know the Niños are a loaded team even on the reserve list, so he'll have to work for his spot. Will he stay at USC? I also do not know, but I felt it would have helped him. I do not want to see such talent go to waste because he really had good potential to make it big in the PBA. He has to understand there is a right timing for getting to where he wants to be

[brad]

His numbers in the CeSAFI this season is not that great. But he numbers usually does not show it. Remember that he came in late and had little time to fully gel with the team, this I believe somehow affected his stats. Also, he is being forced to play off-position. Being the tallest guy at USC(6'4"), the wingman is forced to play down low, which is he is least effective. I felt too, that he applied for the PBL Draft too soon despite being hinted by several coaches that it's not time yet. He did not get picked and as of the last time we talked, he wasn't signed yet. I don't know where he is going now that his initial foray into the PBL didn't yield the best results. Will he be trying out in Liga? I know he is a practice player of the Niños, but I also know the Niños are a loaded team even on the reserve list, so he'll have to work for his spot. Will he stay at USC? I also do not know, but I felt it would have helped him. I do not want to see such talent go to waste because he really had good potential to make it big in the PBA. He has to understand there is a right timing for getting to where he wants to be
Any update game4?thadz

[thadzonline]

UV wins 8th straight CeSAFI title on October 8th, in loving memory of Lucky Pitogo(wore jersey #8)..Pitogo was shot dead by robbers early this year..Greg Slaughter named MVP..

USJ-R will play in PCCL Zone 3 PCCL qualifying in Cebu.

Earlier, USC thwarts UC to claim CeSAFI 3rd place and a spot in Zone 4 qualifying in CDO

[ankle breaker]

what's the score thadz?

[thadzonline]

what's the score thadz?
74-68 I guess...not really a convincing win....

With UV up 65-69, 1:25 to go, Greg Slaughter was called for an unsportmanlike foul committed on Manny Gabas, then he appeared to step on or kick Manny Gabas on the face...no call...In the scuffle, USJ-R's Jan Malinao and UV's Junjun Lasala were called for technical fouls for second motion..Lasala and Malinao technicals cancel out..Gabas was given 2 free throws(note: not technical free throws)..Gabas made the front end and missed the second, rebound to UV...

Greg Slaughter should have been thrown out at that point, if I called the game. 1 technical foul for the unsportmanlike foul + 1 technical foul for second motion for what appeared to be a kick to Gabas' face. USJ-R's designated shooter should have been given 4 technical gift shots and ball possession for the Jaguars. That could have evened out the game or maybe gave the Jaguars the lead.

I hate it because it appeared the referres influenced the outcome of the game

[ankle breaker]

maybe they don't want game 5 anymore. hehehehe

[skadiBOY]

who won? any updates

[ankle breaker]

who won? any updates
thadz just said that UV won their 8th crown on October 8 in memory of murdered #8 player of UV lucky pitogo.

[amamangloy]

Mega Dynasty!

[brad]

Sports
UV bags eighth CESAFI title
By Gabby G. Malagar
Thursday, October 9, 2008
The University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers pulled off a hard-earned yet rewarding 73-68 victory in Game 4 over the University of San Jose-Recoletos (USJ-R) Jaguars to win their eight Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation, Inc. (CESAFI) seniors basketball title last night at the Cebu Coliseum. The Lancers finished the series, 3-1.
The winning moment was earlier duplicated by the Baby Lancers who defeated the University of Cebu (UC) Webmasters, 72-66, to forge a deciding Game 5 on Saturday to determine the secondary champion.
While it was Gregory Slaughter who asserted his dominance at the shaded lane by grabbing 19 rebounds, the big revelation was rookie pointguard Harold Cincoflores who scored six crucial points in the fourth quarter to keep the Lancers’ head above waters, 64-59, with still plenty of time to spare.
The Lancers actually struggled most of the way and had to work doubly hard in the final canto period just after the Jaguars tasted their last lead, 56-54, on Ranulfo Malinao’s basket.
Slaughter, chosen the Finals MVP, and Cincoflores both finished with 16 points for the Lancers. Slaughter also suffered physical defense against the Jaguars and nearly lost his temper when he was whistled for a technical when he kicked Mannie Gabas on the face.
“It was really meant for us. We are lucky this year being associated with number 8,” said CESAFI’s winnningest coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug.
Cabahug recounted that they started the day with a prayer on their fallen comrade Lucky Pitogo, who owned jersey No.8. Pitogo was shot dead by unknown killers last April 18 in his hometown in Consolacion. “We won our 8th CESAFI crown on October 8, 2008,” Cabahug added while thanking the support of the alumni and the Gullas family.
The missing link for the Jaguars was Luther Justiniani, who had another shooting woes finishing with only nine points. It was Lyndon Gudez who topscored for the Jaguars with 21 markers.
Earlier, Arvie Cabañero scored 21 points to lead the Baby Lancers while John auditor and Glennson Ybañez had 18 and 11 points, respectively.
The University of San Carlos Wariors, meanwhile, beat the UC Webmasters via a 70-69 cliffhanger to clinch the third place trophy. The tandem of Sam Hermosa and Givanni Padillo paced the Warriors with 27 points combined.
The scores
First game
(Srs. for 3rd place)
USC (70) - Hermosa 14, Padillo 13, Rowe 8, Gallarde 8, Bautista 7, Bakker 6, Cantonao 5, Cortes 4, Joven 3, Bercede 2
UC (69) - Abella 21, Fajardo 13, Pao 11, Agas 8, Babad 5, Flanco 4, Quilantang 4, Alviva 2, Cueva 1 Halftime: 24-30
Second game:
(Jrs. championship)
UV (72) - Cabañero 21, Auditor 18, Ybañez 11, Fajardo 6, Llenes 5, Perolino 4, Felisario 3, Bonje 2
UC (66) - Pogoy 17, Pearce 12, De Lara 10, Ampoon 8, Codilla 6, Tindoy 4, Palileo 2, Castro 2, Solon 2 Halftime: 37-31
Third game
(Srs. championship)
UV (73) - Slaughter 16, Cincoflores 16, Dennison 14, Diputado 11, Lanete 8, Sendrijas 5, Lasala 2, Lao 1
USJ-R (68) - Gudez 21, Malinao 11, Justiniani 9, Ponce 9, Gabas 7, Delfino 7, Villaver 4
Halftime: 34-37

[Blackie]

What can you say about Emel Rowe? Sounds like the same story but with different player ( Slaughter-UV, but with Slaughter I think he has found his home ). USC, probably put a lot of time and effort in recruiting and bringing Rowe on board, especially after the apparent and wrongly predicted demise of UV after the 2007 season. With Rowe USC had hoped to bring UV down.

Lo and behold, it turns out Rowe has a different objective in mind, a one and done mentality. This is the Philippines my friend, no way.You accept USC offer and then play by your own rules, burn all your bridges behind you, and then expect immediate success. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

If you want to succeed here you need to establish a loyalty and listen to your senior advisers. This means going back to USC and give them their championship or make your best damn effort. Do this, plus getting your haircut :D and your future in the basketball scene is an open door.

Don't go back to USC you close that door and might as well forget basketball in the Philippines. Well of course yayoy out of the goodness of his heart :rolleyes: may give you a job. I heard he is looking for someone to hold the clip board for him next conference.


People are often ignorant of the fact that beneath the serene surface of this beautiful place called the Philippines a dragon lies awaiting us.

[rensquared]

who won? any updates

Hey bro, where did you get that sig? I like it! hahahaah:D

[thadzonline]

What can you say about Emel Rowe? Sounds like the same story but with different player ( Slaughter-UV, but with Slaughter I think he has found his home ). USC, probably put a lot of time and effort in recruiting and bringing Rowe on board, especially after the apparent and wrongly predicted demise of UV after the 2007 season. With Rowe USC had hoped to bring UV down.

Lo and behold, it turns out Rowe has a different objective in mind, a one and done mentality. This is the Philippines my friend, no way.You accept USC offer and then play by your own rules, burn all your bridges behind you, and then expect immediate success. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

If you want to succeed here you need to establish a loyalty and listen to your senior advisers. This means going back to USC and give them their championship or make your best damn effort. Do this, plus getting your haircut :D and your future in the basketball scene is an open door.

Don't go back to USC you close that door and might as well forget basketball in the Philippines. Well of course yayoy out of the goodness of his heart :rolleyes: may give you a job. I heard he is looking for someone to hold the clip board for him next conference.


People are often ignorant of the fact that beneath the serene surface of this beautiful place called the Philippines a dragon lies awaiting us.

It is pretty unfair for Emel Rowe to be blamed for USC not winning the championship. The last time I checked, basketball is still a team game. USC wasn't meant to be CeSAFI champs this year. Emel Rowe staying at USC next year is a welcome thing to USC, but that is his decision to make. It will help USC, it might also help Emel. So no ill feelings. We hope the best for him and his future. We are grateful enough that he did play for USC this season. If he weren't around, I don't know if USC could even make the Final Four(with due respect to his teammates and USC coaches).

[rtarheelgirl]

there was actually a replay of the finals earlier in BTV... wow they should do that again next year and LIVE

[thadzonline]

CeSAFI Finals Game 4 stats:

http://www.basketballcebu.com/8october2008.htm

[C2Hamm]

wow.. 3/11 3pt shooting... thats a lot.

[artful[D]odger]

What can you say about Emel Rowe? Sounds like the same story but with different player ( Slaughter-UV, but with Slaughter I think he has found his home ). USC, probably put a lot of time and effort in recruiting and bringing Rowe on board, especially after the apparent and wrongly predicted demise of UV after the 2007 season. With Rowe USC had hoped to bring UV down.

Lo and behold, it turns out Rowe has a different objective in mind haha it turnsout .. u say it like its a suprise - everyone knew i was leaving after this sem (but u didnt coz ur a nobody), a one and done mentality. This is the Philippines my friend, no way.You accept USC offer and then play by your own rules, burn all your bridges behind you[i built those bridges .. i left home to check out there program.. i jumped on the forums[YES THADZ U OFFERED THE SCHOLARSHIP] and learnt about the league.. i picked them, then was offered to go to u.v and becuase i gave usc my word first i went to usc, and then expect immediate success [please i been in tha paper alot in cebu a nevr once said we were going to win i knew it was going to be hard especially with our lne up BUT HEY IF IT WAS EASY WIN A CHAMPIONSIP THEN UD HAVE ONE WOULDNT U BLACKIE]. Don't bite the hand that feeds you[they didnt feed me man.. witht he allowance they gave it wouldnt even make the cab fares to practice and home(which i pay for) for the month.]

If you want to succeed here you need to establish a loyalty and listen to your senior advisers. This means going back to USC and give them their championship or make your best damn effort [wow do u think I as an individual .is tHe key to usc sucess ?? do u think that i alone need to be there so that usc can win a championship ?? wow hang on.. lets get rid of the other 14 guys we JUST need emel to GIVE THEM THIER CHAMPIONSHIp (no one gives u a champioship -and if ur questioning my work ethic u my friend are a fool ] . Do this, plus getting your haircut :D and your future in the basketball scene is an open door

Don't go back to USC you close that door and might as well forget basketball in the Philippines. Well of course yayoy out of the goodness of his heart :rolleyes:[u dont know yayoy then] may give you a job. I heard he is looking for someone to hold the clip board for him next conference.


People are often ignorant of the fact that beneath the serene surface of this beautiful place called the Philippines a dragon lies awaiting us.

wow blackie usually i dont bite but after ur eloquent slap in the face ive decided to impart my side of the story - first of all who are u ? it obvious u dont know me or the story at all coz u start off saying that .. "usc PROBABBLY put time and effort in " < cmon man the only effort made by the SCHOOL is the measly (compared to allthe schools in and cebu - and lets not compare it to what schools hand over in manila) allowance and the one staff member they assignd to me for enrolment.. the coachs hooked me up with an allowance with lhuillier but tha initial figure grew smaller and smaller .. until i eventually recieved nothing . now lets talk about the efforts of the coachs and the alumni.. alumni - thadz -told me about the school and the scholarship .. he helps me ith any question i have about the league or anyone i need to know about . i ask him for advice and he gives a politically crrect answer = fair enouogh..
lets not forget sir saso = hes the man.. he rallies behind the team an hejlps with our fundraisng and general awareness around campus of whats happening with the team.O and the parents of the playrs .. the parents help were ever they can - and the players became my family ( because i left mine behind in australia (and u question my commitment :S)

the coachs / teammates.. they helped keep me grounded - they helped me to relearn how to play d (even though i struggle but if u look at the other scools big men and there numbers against me ud see there numbers go down.. specially in the later part of the season - if u didnt notice that then stop reading this post or any other.. clearly ur an idiot)..i turned up pretty cocky butrealised it wasnt gonna cut it.. so i dropped the attitde and workd.. ii worked so i hard i got pnuemonia.. lost 6kilos and nearly died.

what else to i need to say to the over opininated loser who attacks ppl from behind his computer screen..um your a loser !- everyone knows the reason why we didnt make it the championsip coz we lost bogs mid season, the team is still young and were just to short [especially at my spot AT THE 5]

now please reply to this ..i knw it will so hardfor u to give ur opinion frombehind ur computr screen but please give it u all u can and make ur best damn effort -haha terrible

[super_defender]

Lets give Emel Rowe some respect. There are a number of factors why he failed to meet most of the guys' expectations. Can we remember the first time GS went to play for UV??? He wasn't the superstar he is today during his rookie year. GS had to adapt to the team's system. I think that the same could be said of Rowe. Plus, conditions in Australia and in the Philippines are very different, there is the language barrier, weather, culture, time zone, etc...Everybody expected Rowe to adapt to all these things at an instant.

It is also true that Rowe defends well. If you guys have noticed, Rowe has successfully been able to defend either GS & JF since he could limit them to less than 15 points which is way below their averages! It is quite unfair to blame Emel for USC's failed bid. I think that he has so much potential in him, I am usually right about a guy whom I think has potential (ex.GS). If only we give him the chance to prove himself. Maybe, just maybe he can play again for USC next season wherein he can "hopefully" team up with Mr. Bravo.

Emel, I know you've got what it takes to excel in Philippine Basketball, all you need to do is to take that leadership role and discipline yourself! If you do this, then I know you can make these unbelievers shut up!

[thadzonline]

USC's road to the PCCL starts November 14-16 in Cagayan de Oro. Entered in Zone 4 is FEU, Ateneo de Zamboanga, most likely Univ. of Mindanao as Davao's rep, CDO champs Xavier U, and host Cagayan de Oro College-Phinma Scorpions. 2 teams from this zone make it to the Sweet 16. USC has a good chance here. Toughest competitors should be UM and FEU

[RetiredJordanStopper]

wait a minute..artful dodger is emel rowe??

[super_defender]

Will Emel be playing?

[ankle breaker]

wait a minute..artful dodger is emel rowe??
i won't say anything....:rolleyes: :D

[ankle breaker]

It is pretty unfair for Emel Rowe to be blamed for USC not winning the championship. The last time I checked, basketball is still a team game. USC wasn't meant to be CeSAFI champs this year. Emel Rowe staying at USC next year is a welcome thing to USC, but that is his decision to make. It will help USC, it might also help Emel. So no ill feelings. We hope the best for him and his future. We are grateful enough that he did play for USC this season. If he weren't around, I don't know if USC could even make the Final Four(with due respect to his teammates and USC coaches).
reaching the semis is a big plus for USC considering that they played most of their games in the elims without main man 2-time CESAFI MVP rico llanto. rowe provided the leadership needed by the team that's why some of the guys stepped up fill in the void left by llanto. they win 3rd place though not bad to a 2 year runner up to slide down a notch below.

[vanguard]

Emel Rowe did great for USC this season, especially filling in the leadership and experience void left by Niño Ramirez. With Enrico Llanto no longer playing for USC next season and the possibility of Rowe not suiting up for the school, USC might have to wait a little longer before finally winning it's first ever CESAFI title.

It's going to be back to square one, too bad for a team who went as close as a win away of ending UV's reign in the CESAFI last season.

[scoli]

It is sad to read Artful (D)odger comments in regards to Blackie's post. You are not smart enough to go back to USC. You said, you grow up in Australia, you should be able to analyzed the sentence. Sorry! Obviously, you wasn't born with a crown on your head. If you think so, you don't need to take a basketball scholarship from the Philippines. Sounds you are a bully kid and arrogant. :o :o :o :o

[scoli]

odger']wow blackie usually i dont bite but after ur eloquent slap in the face ive decided to impart my side of the story - first of all who are u ? it obvious u dont know me or the story at all coz u start off saying that .. "usc PROBABBLY put time and effort in " < cmon man the only effort made by the SCHOOL is the measly (compared to allthe schools in and cebu - and lets not compare it to what schools hand over in manila) allowance and the one staff member they assignd to me for enrolment.. the coachs hooked me up with an allowance with lhuillier but tha initial figure grew smaller and smaller .. until i eventually recieved nothing . now lets talk about the efforts of the coachs and the alumni.. alumni - thadz -told me about the school and the scholarship .. he helps me ith any question i have about the league or anyone i need to know about . i ask him for advice and he gives a politically crrect answer = fair enouogh..
lets not forget sir saso = hes the man.. he rallies behind the team an hejlps with our fundraisng and general awareness around campus of whats happening with the team.O and the parents of the playrs .. the parents help were ever they can - and the players became my family ( because i left mine behind in australia (and u question my commitment :S)

the coachs / teammates.. they helped keep me grounded - they helped me to relearn how to play d (even though i struggle but if u look at the other scools big men and there numbers against me ud see there numbers go down.. specially in the later part of the season - if u didnt notice that then stop reading this post or any other.. clearly ur an idiot)..i turned up pretty cocky butrealised it wasnt gonna cut it.. so i dropped the attitde and workd.. ii worked so i hard i got pnuemonia.. lost 6kilos and nearly died.

what else to i need to say to the over opininated loser who attacks ppl from behind his computer screen..um your a loser !- everyone knows the reason why we didnt make it the championsip coz we lost bogs mid season, the team is still young and were just to short [especially at my spot AT THE 5]

now please reply to this ..i knw it will so hardfor u to give ur opinion frombehind ur computr screen but please give it u all u can and make ur best damn effort -haha terrible

:o :o :o :o :o

[pachador]

Guys,

give Emel some slack. he is just a kid. Remember when you were a teenager or early 20s and you made mistakes or goof-ups? ;)

[the big boss]

the problem with some filipinos is that when they expect big things from someone and become dissapointed later,they tend to bring down that man. cmon we really dont know the side of the story.coz we don't live the life of emel rowe.we really don't know how much hardship he undertakes.he is not a one man team.
thats why i leave varsity, coz people expects more from you even though ur injured they still want to see you make something out of nothing.too bad such haters are not lucky enough to experience playing basketball in system.it takes a team to have a championship.

[prince75]

Its hard to give an opinion if you didnt know the real story. Got to listen to both sides to have a fair and balance statement.

Maybe its all because of the hype that has been given to emel rowe and that expectations were high. In fairness to him, no matter how good you are, but this is a team game, cant win it all alone. Most expected them to be in the championship but they didnt make it, cant blame it in one person though.

[vanguard]

No offense meant but USC's support to it's players is not that good.

[thadzonline]

No offense meant but USC's support to it's players is not that good.

this is true especially if compared to UV and SWU..and we still keep fighting to see better days. I just wish they just let players stay in a dormitory at least

[C2Hamm]

people are expecting too much. he's a new guy. he did what he can. maybe it ended up short of what is expected but he didn't do anything to get blamed. sure its ok to tell someone or say to someone that you got disappointed on the outcome of the tournament but to blame him on a team game? Lebron couldnt win a championship on his own and i dont hear anybody blaming him.

[thadzonline]

Its hard to give an opinion if you didnt know the real story. Got to listen to both sides to have a fair and balance statement.

Maybe its all because of the hype that has been given to emel rowe and that expectations were high. In fairness to him, no matter how good you are, but this is a team game, cant win it all alone. Most expected them to be in the championship but they didnt make it, cant blame it in one person though.

For those not familiar with the team, they expected it would be easier this year considering the scare UV went through last year. But USC lost Niño Ramirez, that in itself is a very big void to fill. USC also lost sweet-shooting forward Carlo Padayao(6'3 PF) and defensive ace Jam Ferraren(6'0 SF) who had to sit out as well as quality 6th man point guard Harvey Lazalita who completed eligibility. Mid-season, USC also lost 2-time CeSAFI MVP Bogs Llanto to injury. Even in the early part of the season, Llanto was already playing hurt.

They got Emel Rowe as an upgrade plus role-player Alfred Vitug and the rookie pair of Joven Cortes and Jabby Bautista who weren't with the team last CeSAFI season.

Although, I was hoping for breaks in the season, I pegged USC as 5th best on paper early in the season. 3rd place is good enough considering USC had to face defending champs and eventual repeat champs UV in the semifinals.

The USC guys worked hard and made a lot of sacrifices and it is unfair to blame any of them for failing to win a championship. If you question Rowe's character, take note that he kept his word with USC despite a very lucrative offer by UV. That in itself speaks much about his character. This despite the fact that he was almost not enrolled because his school documents had to be verified. He got sick with pneumonia and I even don't know yet if the school reimbursed those hospital bills.

It is never a practice at USC to hold on to a player if he wants to go. The coaches advice them, but at the end of the day, the individual makes his own decisions. So those who are not familiar with the USC program should just shut up. USC is not making a big deal of not winning the title, why should you be so concerned?

[RayV]

wait a minute..artful dodger is emel rowe??

WHOA!!! I think so too... wow, this is quite a development... :D

[artful[D]odger]

It is sad to read Artful (D)odger comments in regards to Blackie's post. You are not smart enough to go back to USC. You said, you grow up in Australia, you should be able to analyzed the sentence. Sorry! Obviously, you wasn't born with a crown on your head . If you think so, you don't need to take a basketball scholarship from the Philippines[ i knew that - everyone back home was telling me not to go, not to leave the league i was playing in to play COLLEGE in the phils but ive never played college ball and i wanted to experience it- its fun ]. Sounds you are a bully kid and arrogant. :o :o :o :o

wow.. i dont know wats worse - my rambling or ur attempt to attack me in english

haha im not smart enough to GO BACK TO USC but apparently i stupid for going in the first place ..hrmmmmm nice one scoli .. ur and idiot aswell

[ricodgame]

odger']wow.. i dont know wats worse - my rambling or ur attempt to attack me in english

haha im not smart enough to GO BACK TO USC but apparently i stupid for going in the first place ..hrmmmmm nice one scoli .. ur and idiot aswell

ei stop arguing with each other. We are all Filipinos, We should support and help each other..

Anyways, Mr. Emel Rowe,.. so are you going to play for USC in the PCCL Zonal? or are you now here in Manila attending try outs to any PBL squads? or are you going back to Australia and continue to hone your skills there and if ever you return back to australia, are you still willing and going to pursue your career here and Philippines?

[brad]

http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirers...ps-League-slot
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Lancers nail Champs League slot

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Close this Manila, Philippines—A season that began in tragedy ended in triumph for the University of the Visayas.

The UV Lancers overcame the University of San Jose-Recoletos Jaguars, 73-68, Wednesday night to seal their eighth straight title in the Cebu Schools Athletic Federation Inc. at the Cebu Coliseum.

The Lancers, drawing inspiration from late teammate Lucky Pitogo, who was shot fatally by unidentified assailants in April, won the best-of-five championship series, 3-1.

The victory also earned them a spot in the “Sweet 16” of the Smart-PLDT Philippine Collegiate Champions League.

Six-foot-11 center Greg Slaughter bucked the Jaguars’ physical play by finishing with 16 points and 19 rebounds in the title-clincher to capture the finals’ Most Valuable Player award.

UV moved on the brink of winning the title by routing USJR by an average of 11 points in the first two games.

The Jaguars roared back with a stirring 86-53 win to extend the series.

But UV rookie guard Harold Cincoflores sparkled in Game 4, where he scored 16, including six in the fourth quarter, to give the Lancers a 64-59 advantage from a 56-54 deficit.

The Lancers, who lost to Ateneo in the PCCL finals last year, join the UAAP champion Blue Eagles, NCAA winner San Beda, La Salle, Jose Rizal U, San Sebastian-Cavite and Manuel L. Quezon University in the Sweet 16 tournament that starts on Nov. 24 in Manila.

The Jaguars and Cesafi third placer University of San Carlos will join the zonal phase of the competition.

Also advancing to the zonals are Don Bosco Technical College-Mandaluyong and Lyceum of the Philippines-Batangas.

Don Bosco NCAA-South teams will battle UAAP fourth placer University of the East in Zone 2 while Lyceum-Batangas will face NCAA Final Four qualifier Mapua.

[ankle breaker]

WHOA!!! I think so too... wow, this is quite a development... :D
i already know it ever since he joined this forum. :)
and i would like to congratulate emel for being so nice and to the things that he'd done to my alma mater USC. nice job bro, your contributions will not be forgotten. it will be in the annals of USC that one time you helped the team in many aspects.

[rtarheelgirl]

No offense meant but USC's support to it's players is not that good.
yeah and i heard about the 'win or lose..' bein in the back of their shirts. No offense carolinians, but i THINK this is ateneo's... peace! :)

[thadzonline]

yeah and i heard about the 'win or lose..' bein in the back of their shirts. No offense carolinians, but i THINK this is ateneo's... peace! :)

they knew that..:p but when Mike Reyes told Eddie and the guys about it, the shirts were already printed so that's the story haha...there was a popular slogan before that underlined the resilience of the USC Warriors and became more popular in that scare they gave UV last year.."Never underestimate the heart of a true Warrior" in obvious reference to people counting them out as heavy underdogs to UV, last year USC was 1 game away from dethroning the Lancers

[thadzonline]

ei stop arguing with each other. We are all Filipinos, We should support and help each other..

Anyways, Mr. Emel Rowe,.. so are you going to play for USC in the PCCL Zonal? or are you now here in Manila attending try outs to any PBL squads? or are you going back to Australia and continue to hone your skills there and if ever you return back to australia, are you still willing and going to pursue your career here and Philippines?

Emel Rowe is currently trying out for a slot at Hapee. I'm wishing him the best. Since the PCCL only allows the same rosters that played in their mother leagues, expect Emel Rowe to still be playing for USC in the zone 4 qualifiers until the PCCL

[rtarheelgirl]

they knew that..:p but when Mike Reyes told Eddie and the guys about it, the shirts were already printed so that's the story haha...there was a popular slogan before that underlined the resilience of the USC Warriors and became more popular in that scare they gave UV last year.."Never underestimate the heart of a true Warrior" in obvious reference to people counting them out as heavy underdogs to UV, last year USC was 1 game away from dethroning the Lancers
oh because some of the ateneans were kinda angry because that's like a line in our school hym.. but anyway I'll tell this to them hahaha ;D

[artful[D]odger]

oh because some of the ateneans were kinda angry because that's like a line in our school hym.. but anyway I'll tell this to them hahaha ;D

if they saw the our gym and compared to moro ... im sure they wouldnt get angry (not to say theres anything wrong with the usc gym .. its jus compared to what u kids get .. its hard to get angry at us)
:P

[rtarheelgirl]

odger']if they saw the our gym and compared to moro ... im sure they wouldnt get angry (not to say theres anything wrong with the usc gym .. its jus compared to what u kids get .. its hard to get angry at us)
:P
we're just very loyal to our school that whoever uses the cheers we 'KINDA' get angry. but peace with the carolinians! =)

[artful[D]odger]

it better be peace.. :P if we do okay in cagayan we likely to face off against admu in the BIG DANCE of the pccl ... exciting :P

[rtarheelgirl]

odger']it better be peace.. :P if we do okay in cagayan we likely to face off against admu in the BIG DANCE of the pccl ... exciting :P
and we will win hahahaha! ;p peace again bro!

[thadzonline]

and we will win hahahaha! ;p peace again bro!

we'll see..uhmm..maybe..:p:D peace! USC will surely be underdogs in that matchup

[artful[D]odger]

and we will win hahahaha! ;p peace again bro!
haha i wonder if there will be as much hype when i match up on rabeh ... O THE SHOW DOWN THE COUNTRIES BEEN WAITING FOR HAHA.. not even close :P

[thadzonline]

odger']haha i wonder if there will be as much hype when i match up on rabeh ... O THE SHOW DOWN THE COUNTRIES BEEN WAITING FOR HAHA.. not even close :P

bwahahahaha..this is priceless!:D

[ankle breaker]

odger']haha i wonder if there will be as much hype when i match up on rabeh ... O THE SHOW DOWN THE COUNTRIES BEEN WAITING FOR HAHA.. not even close :P
im sure you are going to give rabeh a good game.

[ricodgame]

odger']it better be peace.. :P if we do okay in cagayan we likely to face off against admu in the BIG DANCE of the pccl ... exciting :P

so we are looking forward to see your game here in Manila.. i hope your team sweeps the zonal and hoping that you land a spot a with HAPEE too.

[rtarheelgirl]

odger']haha i wonder if there will be as much hype when i match up on rabeh ... O THE SHOW DOWN THE COUNTRIES BEEN WAITING FOR HAHA.. not even close :P
i think baclao and you is a better match up. =) you're both around 6'4-6'5. rebounders, blockers, defensive players and stuff.... and baclao's bisaya too:D

[ankle breaker]

i think baclao and you is a better match up. =) you're both around 6'4-6'5. rebounders, blockers, defensive players and stuff.... and baclao's bisaya too:D
emel doens't speak visayan that well and even if baclao is also a bisaya, they can't understand each other since baclao is an ilonggo while emel is a cebuano.

OT: i heard that emel's cousin joined the ms fitrum search in wowowee.

[the cool cat]

Pages: The ‘Tim Duncan’ of Cebu basketball speaks
By John Pages
Match Point

LAST Friday, I sat down for lunch with Greg Slaughter and asked him a plateful of questions. Here is the rest of my Q & A with the Cebu basketball phenomenon who stands nearly 7-foot-tall (...now I know why his jersey is No.7).

How does Cebu compare to your home in Virginia, U.S.A.? “I really like the people in Cebu. They’re more friendly. People here, especially families, help each other out. So I really like it here. In Virginia, we lived there for 10 years and I didn’t even know the people around my neighborhood. In the States, it’s more individualistic. Here, generally, people are more friendly.”

Are you American or Filipino? (Laughs.) “I’m both. I carry two passports. And, when I’m lining for immigration, I show both passports. So I’m both. I’m Fil-Am.”

Best friend in Cebu? (He points to the man seated beside him, Von Lanete, the star UV guard who’ll be joining the Harbour Centre PBL team.) “We get along very well. Ever since our first practice last year with UV, Von and I have become really good friends.”

How popular have you become? “Well, because of my height, everywhere I go people stare at me. But now, especially with the Cesafi All-Star and the Finals, people recognize me more. A few days ago, we were at the beach and someone approached to congratulate me for playing well. Here in the (Ayala) mall, people come up to me to shake hands.”

Girlfriend(s)? (Laughs out loud then points to Von.) “He’s got plenty. No comment on my part.” (Then Von points to Greg and speaks.) “He’s got a girlfriend... on and off.”

Your goal? “The PBA. Maybe also the RP team, if I’m called. But it’s got to be the PBA. Which team? The team that pays the highest! (Laughs.) But, seriously, I want to go pro.”

When? “I don’t know. Maybe next year. Maybe two years from now. It all depends if there are offers. I also want to take the next one or two years to continue improving myself. I want to be ready before I join the big league.”

What do you need to improve? “Everything! My left hook, my right hook... my footwork... my running... my perimeter shooting... everything. I’m also doing a lot to strengthen my legs. I’m doing a lot of gym work, especially squatting and, without any gym weights, doing the ‘invisible chair’ where I bend my knees to harden the leg muscles.”

Know how to speak Cebuano? “Gamay. (Laughs.) It’s easier to understand than it is to speak. So I understand the basic Cebuano words.”

Like? “It’s funny because the very first word I learned—and I still remember this until now—is ‘manananggal.’ It’s funny but
I just remember that word. Maybe I saw it first on some TV show.”

How does this season compare to last year? “Big difference. When I arrived last year, I got sick a lot. Maybe it was where I stayed... at our quarters. But since I moved to my uncle Fernando’s house (the younger brother of her mom, Emma) in Mambaling, I’ve really improved, health-wise. I’m also able to eat more. Also, last year, I had a hard time adjusting, especially when we practiced or played at the (Cebu) Coliseum. I got pneumonia, had colds... people would smoke inside the Coliseum or they’d roast peanuts... I’m allergic to the smoke from roasted peanuts. But now, I’m healthier.”

Your body weight? Shoe size? “I’m 240 pounds. When I arrived last year, I was around 235—so I gained some weight,
possibly added muscle. Shoe size? I’m a size 15... but my feet are starting to hurt and I’ll have to get size 16. It’s difficult buying that size here. I often ask my parents (who’ll be coming here for Christmas) to bring me some.”

What’s next? “Well, the next major event is the Champions League, which pits all the top college teams. Last year, we reached the finals and lost to Ateneo. This year, the event is in November... so that will be exciting. It was difficult last year because, coming from out-of-town, you’d have to wait several days in-between games. It’s a big advantage to the Manila teams because they live there. For us, from Cebu, it’s difficult. But it will be exciting to play Ateneo, La Salle, San Beda....”
Well, I wish those Manila teams good-luck. For as they face UV, they’ll be welcomed into Greg’s Slaughterhouse!

[elvie_920]

hi there! there im trying to open the name of my son VAN ADAM ABATAYO of davao city..i was so happy of the outcome of my son game yesterday MILO BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT in DAVAO CITY pasarelle division championship game WOW he got the MVP award..im here in singapore both vans parents are inclined to sports..im active volleyball player same with his dad active in basketball..he as 14yrs old and 6ft..i hope someday my son will be recognised as he joint last summer NIKE CAMP and NBTC ...HOPE SOMEBODY CAN HELP FIND A good school in MANILA where my son can enroll next school year as he really loves to go to manila..

elvie

[elvie_920]

he is 13 years old, very trainable age..he plays for SACS in the Hapee Online tournament..

So Mario Bonleon played for both Ateneo de Davao and Holy Cross in Davao?


Hi there my son Van Adam Abatayo 14yrs old 6ft is also embons Bonleon teammate they have a good rapor and tandem from Davao city Holy Child school,,Yesterday is a Big Victory for them winning the Milo Championship game very well played....Luckyly my son got the MVP award everything is in God's hand..

[thadzonline]

CeSAFI 2008 scoring leaders and trivia:

http://cesafibasketballnews.blogspot.com/2008/10/cesafi-basketball-2008-scoring-leaders.html

[ankle breaker]

CeSAFI 2008 scoring leaders and trivia:

http://cesafibasketballnews.blogspot.com/2008/10/cesafi-basketball-2008-scoring-leaders.html
thadz, this is good and the trivia is very intriguing. however, had zanoria was not suspended in the league he could be one of the scoring leaders IMO.

[ankle breaker]

Hi there my son Van Adam Abatayo 14yrs old 6ft is also embons Bonleon teammate they have a good rapor and tandem from Davao city Holy Child school,,Yesterday is a Big Victory for them winning the Milo Championship game very well played....Luckyly my son got the MVP award everything is in God's hand..
how is he or your family related to jared kane abatayo of UC? just let your son try with the Cebu schools first before venturing to Manila. CESAFI is the best league outside of Metro Manila.

[thadzonline]

thadz, this is good and the trivia is very intriguing. however, had zanoria was not suspended in the league he could be one of the scoring leaders IMO.

we'll have more of that as soon as I finish compiling all stats

[brad]

Sports
Yayoy: Tiukinhoy has no heart for sports
By Emmanuel B. Villaruel
Tuesday, October 28, 2008
“A self-centered individual who has no heart for sports.”
In a hardline rhetoric, this is how legendary basketball coach and league organizer Raul “Yayoy” D. Alcoseba described Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. commissioner Felix O. Tiukinhoy, Jr., whom he accused as the mastermind of the CESAFI Board’s decision prohibiting its member teams from taking part in the third season of the Visayas Amateur Athletic Association (VAAA).

“If he (Tiukinhoy) is a true-blue sportsman, he should support this kind of endeavor. He creates divisiveness. Instead of promoting unity (in Cebu basketball), he tried to divide us. He should not be in sports, he should be in politics,” said Alcoseba in a press conference at his City Hall office.

As league commissioner, Alcoseba said Tiukinhoy should not dictate what the Board will do or initiate what he is going to do.

“He is the one who is initiating all of these. He pressured the Board to make the decision. Who called a meeting? Who made a resolution? It could not have been done if it was not for him. He has no authority to do such because he is just a commissioner,” said Alcoseba.

Alcoseba said he couldn’t comprehend the logic nor fathom the rationale behind CESAFI’s decision considering that VAAA rolls out a lot of opportunities for aspiring collegiate players in the region being a developmental league.

“I want to make it clear that VAAA is here not to compete with CESAFI. We are even helping CESAFI in terms of exposure of its players as well as in its sports program,” said Alcoseba.

Tiukinhoy cited the conflict in scheduling as the main reason of CESAFI’s latest order. He said some of their member schools are gearing up for the qualifying round of the Philippine Collegiate Champions League next month. They are also in the process of forming a CESAFI selection for a tournament in Hong Kong this December and then prepare for the Partners Cup in February next year.

But Alcoseba countered the VAAA schedule has always been flexible.

“The Champions League only takes how many games? It will not disrupt the schedule of VAAA or the CESAFI. Besides, we are willing to adjust to the schedule of CESAFI just like what we did in the past two stagings of VAAA,” said Alcoseba.

Alcoseba said he just pity the players who kept on practicing with no tournament to showcase their wares.

“These players are enjoying a year-long athletic scholarship with their respective schools and the CESAFI is only for the first semester. I pity these players because they kept on practicing without having a tournament to join in,” said Alcoseba.

“Tiukinhoy has never been an athlete so he doesn’t feel what the athletes feel. He is a selfish, self-centered individual. He doesn’t think about sports. He thinks only of himself,” blurted out Cebu’s winningest coach. “He doesn’t have love for sport. What’s wrong with the league (VAAA) that they prevented their member teams from participating?”

Alcoseba said with or without the support of the CESAFI, the VAAA will push through as scheduled on November 8. He hopes though that the team owners will reconsider their decision.

“I must admit that without the CESAFI teams, the level of competition in VAAA would become lower,” said Alcoseba.

“I just hope the respective school heads will look at the bigger picture. Joining the VAAA is of their advantage because they will be spared from financial burden, their players are all insured and will have a chance to travel to other places. More importantly, their teams will be given the needed exposure preparatory for the next CESAFI season. These are on top of the P100,000 worth of sports equipment we are offering to the top performing school,” he added.

So far, only one CESAFI member school - the University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers - has signified its intent to see action in the VAAA cage wars. The University of San Carlos (USC) Warriors, the University of San Jose-Recoletos (USJ-R) Jaguars, and the Southwestern University (SWU) Cobras have also expressed their willingness to join, but they have yet to ask the blessings of their school heads.

[nardy]

that Tiukinhoy fellow seems to be like Sonny Barrios in a lot of ways. Isn't he also the one who influenced the CESAFI to withdraw it's recognition for the SBP.

by the way is that withdrawal of support still the stand of CESAFI. would that affect the CESAFI players invited by the SBP to join the November tryouts for Toroman's pool of players.

are there any news in Cebu if they would allow or restrict the players from joining?

[emiliano_santos2001]

cesafi will open this saturday, august 2. the first game will feature junmar fajardo's u.c. against the u.s.p panthers while greg slaughter's u.v. will go up against emel rowe u.s.c warriors on the second game. this is a nice opening games for cesafi.
greg slaughter vs junmar fajardo will be a great battle

[bolabasket]

greg slaughter vs junmar fajardo will be a great battle
What's this? 2nd season of CESAFI?

[nardy]

cesafi will open this saturday, august 2. the first game will feature junmar fajardo's u.c. against the u.s.p panthers while greg slaughter's u.v. will go up against emel rowe u.s.c warriors on the second game. this is a nice opening games for cesafi.


greg slaughter vs junmar fajardo will be a great battle


What's this? 2nd season of CESAFI?

the kid does not actually reads the thread and just posts whatever is in his thoughts. check his attached quote it's way back July 31. Most of his posts are short comments in other threads. Anyway let's let him be as along as he's harmless and not a nuisance.

[thadzonline]

Leading scorers per team in CeSAFI 2008:

UV-->Greg Slaughter(C, 6'11) with 18.5 ppg
http://uvgreenlancers.blogspot.com/2008/10/uv-green-lancer-greg-slaughter-2nd-in.html

USJ-R-->Lyndon Gudez(SG, 5'11) with 14.0 ppg
http://usj-rjaguars.blogspot.com/2008/10/usj-r-jaguars-lyndon-gudez-is-5th.html

USC-->Giovanni Padillo(SG, 5'10) with 11.9 ppg
http://uscwarriors.blogspot.com/2008/10/giovanni-padillo-leads-usc-warriors-in.html

UC-->Junemar Fajardo(C, 6'8) with 20.4 ppg
http://ucwebmasters.blogspot.com/2008/10/uc-webmaster-junmar-fajardo-is-scoring.html

SWU-->ALfred Belande(G/F, 6'2) with 18.1 ppg
http://swucobras.blogspot.com/2008/10/swu-cobras-alfred-belande-is-3rd.html

DBTC-->Celso Colegado Jr.(PG, 5'6) with 11.5 ppg
http://dbtcgreywolves.blogspot.com/2008/10/celso-colegado-jr-leads-dbtc-greywolves.html

USPF-->Moncrief Rogado(SG, 6'0) with 12.4 ppg
http://uspfpanthers.blogspot.com/2008/10/moncrief-rogado-leads-uspf-panthers-in.html

CIT-->Ronel Villarba(SG, 5'9) with 10.9 ppg
http://citwildcats.blogspot.com/2008/10/ronel-villarba-leads-cit-wildcats-in.html

all averages:
http://cesafibasketballnews.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-they-scored-in-cesafi-basketball.html

[nardy]

Leading scorers per team in CeSAFI 2008:

UV-->Greg Slaughter(C, 6'11) with 18.5 ppg
http://uvgreenlancers.blogspot.com/2008/10/uv-green-lancer-greg-slaughter-2nd-in.html

USJ-R-->Lyndon Gudez(SG, 5'11) with 14.0 ppg
http://usj-rjaguars.blogspot.com/2008/10/usj-r-jaguars-lyndon-gudez-is-5th.html

USC-->Giovanni Padillo(SG, 5'10) with 11.9 ppg
http://uscwarriors.blogspot.com/2008/10/giovanni-padillo-leads-usc-warriors-in.html

UC-->Junemar Fajardo(C, 6'8) with 20.4 ppg
http://ucwebmasters.blogspot.com/2008/10/uc-webmaster-junmar-fajardo-is-scoring.html

SWU-->ALfred Belande(G/F, 6'2) with 18.1 ppg
http://swucobras.blogspot.com/2008/10/swu-cobras-alfred-belande-is-3rd.html

DBTC-->Celso Colegado Jr.(PG, 5'6) with 11.5 ppg
http://dbtcgreywolves.blogspot.com/2008/10/celso-colegado-jr-leads-dbtc-greywolves.html

USPF-->Moncrief Rogado(SG, 6'0) with 12.4 ppg
http://uspfpanthers.blogspot.com/2008/10/moncrief-rogado-leads-uspf-panthers-in.html

CIT-->Ronel Villarba(SG, 5'9) with 10.9 ppg
http://citwildcats.blogspot.com/2008/10/ronel-villarba-leads-cit-wildcats-in.html

all averages:
http://cesafibasketballnews.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-they-scored-in-cesafi-basketball.html


Thadz .... do we have the Average minutes played per game and average number of errors/turnovers does Greg and Junmar had in the recent CESAFI. Am just making an analysis on the overall game of the two.

[bolabasket]

whom do you think will have a chance of making it in the PBA?

[b3lowzro]

the kid does not actually reads the thread and just posts whatever is in his thoughts. check his attached quote it's way back July 31. Most of his posts are short comments in other threads. Anyway let's let him be as along as he's harmless and not a nuisance.

This happens all times, that's why im a bit frustrated with some forumers here.

On the Cesafi players, i bet Eala would use all legal options to persuade the CESAFI to lend their players.

[thadzonline]

Thadz .... do we have the Average minutes played per game and average number of errors/turnovers does Greg and Junmar had in the recent CESAFI. Am just making an analysis on the overall game of the two.

Unfortunately the CeSAFI did not take note of the minutes played, I'll update the forum on all other stats i.e. Rebounds(offensive, defensive, total), assists, steals, blocks, turnovers, FG %(2PFG, 3PFG, Total FG), FT %, statistical points and fouls. I just finished compiling it and should be made available soon

[thadzonline]

Only 3 players fielded in CeSAFI Basketball (http://cesafibasketballnews.blogspot.com/) 2008 did not commit a single turnover: CIT's Kent Galaura had no errors in 4 games while teammate Vinces Villamor had a clean sheet in just 1 appearance. USPF Panther Jestoni Casquejo was also spotless in brief appearances in 3 games.

4 of the CeSAFI Basketball 2008 top 10 scoring leaders are also in the top 10 in turnovers per game. UC's Junemar Fajardo finished 2nd in turnovers with a total of 37 errors in 10 games(3.7 topg). Fellow Webmaster Krist Edward Pao totaled 32 errors in 10 games(3.2 topg, 5th overall). USPF Panther Renato Gulane Jr. turned the leather 20 times in 7 games(2.9 topg, 8th overall) and UV Green Lancer and Triple MVP awardee Greg Slaughter had 39 errors in 14 games(2.8 topg, 9th overall).

3 USPF Panthers figured in the top 10 most error-prone players of CeSAFI Basketball 2008. Jeffrey Laurente led the league with a total of 30 errors in 8 games, an average of 3.8 turnovers an outing. Gulane is 8th most error-prone while Randy Avila had 25 miscues in 8 assignments(3.1 topg, 6th overall).the turnover story at:
http://cesafibasketballnews.blogspot.com/2008/10/cesafi-basketball-2008-turnovers.html

[nardy]

Unfortunately the CeSAFI did not take note of the minutes played,


Anyway from what you know did Greg and Junmar log a lot of minutes last season or did they have quality minutes when they produced these great stats. Just want to visualize if they are players who needs ample rest to be effective or can be workhorses and play the whole game.

[thadzonline]

Anyway from what you know did Greg and Junmar log a lot of minutes last season or did they have quality minutes when they produced these great stats. Just want to visualize if they are players who needs ample rest to be effective or can be workhorses and play the whole game.

They are workhorses. Probably logs an estimate 30-35 minutes per 40 minute game. In Game 4 of the finals, I think Greg Slaughter had a brief rest, not even a minute. In that game he scored 16 points and grabbed 19 boards. What's most amazing is I havent seen any of them suffer from cramps in the very humid and overflowing Cebu Coliseum

[thadzonline]

final individual statistics record for CeSAFI 2008:

http://www.basketballcebu.com/cesafi2008statleaders.htm

will soon add pts to TO ratio, ast to TO ratio, and player efficiency ratings

[UnitedAmeircanTikiTiki]

Cebu cagers to represent RP in HK event


Cebu Daily News
November 07, 2008

THE CEBU Schools Athletic Foundation Inc.'s (Cesafi) finest basketball players will get to represent the country after all.

This developed after Cesafi commissioner Felix Tiukinhoy, along with the coaches Elmer Cabahug and Edito Salacot, decided to field in their senior players in an effort to bag the title in the upcoming 17th Super Kung Sheung Cup International Basketball Invitation Championships 2008 set in Hong Kong next month.

The Cesafi earlier planned to stock the roster with players who will still be eligible to play in the 2009 season.

However, in their meeting yesterday, they decided to include the outgoing seniors of the 2008 season in the lineup as they hope to have a good showing against some of the best collegiate teams in Asia.

“Katong mga senior players ug maski katong ni-graduate na as of the 2008 season, mukuha gihapon ta ug selection didto kay we have to make sure that lig-on ang team na atong ipadala. We are going there to compete, dili ta turista ,” said Tiukinhoy.

The tournament is set to kick off on Dec. 16 and will last until the 21st.

Four players have already been assured of slots to the squad. Heading the list is the University of the Visayas' Greg Slaughter, who will be joined by fellow behemoth, 6-foot-9 June Mar Fajardo of the University of Cebu. The University of San Jose-Recoletos backcourt of Armand Ponce and Luther Justiniani have also been tabbed to lead the squad. All four are members of the 2008 Cesafi Mythical Five team.

15 players will be named to the team in the coming week but only 12 will be sent to Hong Kong. /Correspondent Jonas Panerio

http://services.inquirer.net/mobile/08/11/07/html_output/xmlhtml/20081107-170818-xml.html

[the cool cat]

Cebu cagers to represent RP in HK event


Cebu Daily News
November 07, 2008

THE CEBU Schools Athletic Foundation Inc.'s (Cesafi) finest basketball players will get to represent the country after all.

This developed after Cesafi commissioner Felix Tiukinhoy, along with the coaches Elmer Cabahug and Edito Salacot, decided to field in their senior players in an effort to bag the title in the upcoming 17th Super Kung Sheung Cup International Basketball Invitation Championships 2008 set in Hong Kong next month.

The Cesafi earlier planned to stock the roster with players who will still be eligible to play in the 2009 season.

However, in their meeting yesterday, they decided to include the outgoing seniors of the 2008 season in the lineup as they hope to have a good showing against some of the best collegiate teams in Asia.

“Katong mga senior players ug maski katong ni-graduate na as of the 2008 season, mukuha gihapon ta ug selection didto kay we have to make sure that lig-on ang team na atong ipadala. We are going there to compete, dili ta turista ,” said Tiukinhoy.

The tournament is set to kick off on Dec. 16 and will last until the 21st.

Four players have already been assured of slots to the squad. Heading the list is the University of the Visayas' Greg Slaughter, who will be joined by fellow behemoth, 6-foot-9 June Mar Fajardo of the University of Cebu. The University of San Jose-Recoletos backcourt of Armand Ponce and Luther Justiniani have also been tabbed to lead the squad. All four are members of the 2008 Cesafi Mythical Five team.

15 players will be named to the team in the coming week but only 12 will be sent to Hong Kong. /Correspondent Jonas Panerio

http://services.inquirer.net/mobile/08/11/07/html_output/xmlhtml/20081107-170818-xml.html wow.. this is good international exposure for this players. it would be the first time that GS and JF will team up. great...

[rhk111]

What are the credentials of the teams they will be competing against? That is the question.

[super_defender]

What are the credentials of the teams they will be competing against? That is the question.

Well according to the article above, they will face the "best collegiate teams in Asia."

[rhk111]

Well according to the article above, they will face the "best collegiate teams in Asia."

Really? Which teams are those, I wonder.

[manu_bol]

this was the same tournament which air 21 played a couple of years ago. if i'm not mistaken, they ended 2-3 (W-L).

[thadzonline]

rhk111 is right, The Super Kung Sheung Cup or whatever you call that tournament sounds more like an intercolor league in HK. Im not too excited and I can only hope it does makes the players better and not just be used as another political pawn in these squabbling among basketball leaders

[rhk111]

The problem with this tournament, is that the players risk the possibility of injury also. Good if its worth it, if the competition is really tough. But if they are just some minor patsy teams out there, they risk injury, but without getting anything worthwhile out of it in terms of experience.

Anyway, let's see first what kind of opposition is getting. If they are not that strong, then I wouldn't take it that seriously, even if it is an international competition.

[manu_bol]

i think the HK national team would be playing

hope this tournament would give the cesafi players (especially GS) a taste of how international basketball is played.

the more international tourneys played the better for RP basketball.

[manu_bol]

The problem with this tournament, is that the players risk the possibility of injury also. Good if its worth it, if the competition is really tough. But if they are just some minor patsy teams out there, they risk injury, but without getting anything worthwhile out of it in terms of experience.

Anyway, let's see first what kind of opposition is getting. If they are not that strong, then I wouldn't take it that seriously, even if it is an international competition.

previously, other teams gave our pro players from air 21 a hard time. amateur and young cesafi players will certainly have their hands full.

[nardy]

CCC-CSD Builders to face Cebu Niños in exhibition match
The Freeman
Monday, November 10, 2008

Newly-crowned Aloguinsan Mayor’s Cup Open champion Carmen Copper Corporation-Construction Services Department (CCC-CSD) Builders get a shot at bigtime basketball as they go up against the inaugural Liga Pilipinas national champion M. Lhuillier Kwarta Padala-Cebu Niños in a goodwill encounter on November 28 at the CCC Recreation Center in Lutopan, Toledo City.

CCC-CSD team consulant Romy Cal said the Niños of coach Raul “Yayoy” Alcoseba have already given their nod for the exhibition duel billed as “Reunion Match.”

Majority of the Builders particularly the troika of Jerry Jaca, Aldrin Ocañada and Raul Redulosa passed the standards of coach Alcoseba’s system and have had played for the Michel J. Lhuillier-owned ballclub for several years.

In order to put up a good fight, the Builders have hired the services of 6-foot-11 Gregory Slaughter of the University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers and star guard Armand ponce of the University of San-Jose Recoletos (USJ-R) Jaguars.

In the preliminary, the Security/Administration Division will play against the Mine Underground Division.

The Builders-Niños showdown is sponsored by the Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Parish Pastoral Council led by its president Mrs. Tessie Ledesma Cal.

If plans do not miscarry, coach Alcoseba plans to bring one of the best games in the Visayas Amateur Athletic Association (VAAA) to Lutopan.

- GGM

[ankle breaker]

i think the HK national team would be playing

hope this tournament would give the cesafi players (especially GS) a taste of how international basketball is played.

the more international tourneys played the better for RP basketball.

GS already tasted facing foreign teams though it was held in cebu. the AUBC tournament which was won by haoquaio university at the expense of UV.

[the cool cat]

Letran, UC lead Visayas winners


Manila Bulletin
By JONAS TERRADO

Letran and University of Cebu scored convincing wins at the start of the Visayas interzonal phase in the 2008 Philippine Collegiate Championship Sunday at the Ormoc Superdome in Ormoc City.

The Knights, who made in to the Final Four of the 84th NCAA season, crushed hometown squad, AMA Computer Learning Center, 96-65, while the Webmasters, fourth-placer in the CESAFI tournament, pummeled AMA, 101-60, behind the effort of 6-foot-7 big man Junmar Fajardo.

Both teams are currently facing each other as of presstime to determine which squad will take top spot in Group A.

The winner of the Letran-UC tiff will meet the second-ranked team in Group B while the top team of Group A will battle the loser of the other game.

Meanwhile, CESAFI runner-up University of San Jose Recoletos, bannered by star guard Luke Justiniani, defeated 10-time NOPSSCEA champion West Negros University, 88-77, in the tournament’s opening game last Sunday.

Despite the defeat, the Mustangs were able to bounce back yesterday when they crushed BIT-International College, 90-62, to end the elimination round with an even 1-1 record.

A win by the Jaguars against BIT-IC will earn them and West Negros a spot in today’s semifinals. Both are also playing as of presstime.

The two finalists in this phase will advance in the Sweet 16 of the event presented by SMART, PLDT, FilOil Flying V and KFC.

NCAA champion San Beda, NAASCU titlist San Sebastian College Recoletos de Cavite, De La Salle and Jose Rizal University are the remaining teams that have yet an opponent.

Mapua Institute of Technology and Arellano University are the top two teams in Zone 1 while University of the East and Lyceum of the Philippines bagged the spots in Zone 2.

[FastskinPRO]

Why do Fil-Ams coming back to study in the Philippines favor Cebu, Can the degrees these guys such as Slaughter, Rowe and other Fil-ams be taken aroad? Anywhere we have rosters with the heights of the players in Cebu?

[nardy]

Cesafi: Respect board decision
11/12/2008 - 08:44pm
http://www.sunstar.com.ph

THE Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (Cesafi) broke its silence in the controversy regarding its member schools violating the board’s decision not to allow its members to participate in the Visayas Amateur Athletic Association (VAAA) and as a consequence, the participation of a Cesafi team in the Hong Kong competition now hangs by a thread.

Although nothing is final yet pending the meeting of the school heads next week, Cesafi president Rolando Villa said that if worse comes to worse, they might be giving sanctions to the teams that force their way.

To show their seriousness in the matter, the Cesafi might hold the Hong Kong Trip hostage.

Villa, who has been silent the entire time the issue has been hounding the local dailies, said he wants to know the final and formal stand of the schools that allegedly confirmed their participation in the VAAA.

Cesafi asked its members not to join the VAAA, which they consider a competing league, and promised to give its members enough competitions to keep them busy with a post-season event, the Partners Cup, and the participation in a tournament in Hong Kong next month.

“We only learned about it in the papers and not really directly from the school officials themselves. We are now drafting a letter asking the school heads, especially Congressman (Eddie) Gullas of UV and Southwestern University asking them to respect the board’s decision and ask them what their final decisions on the matter will be,” said Villa.

Brunt

UV will suffer the brunt of Cesafi’s ire because apart from being banned from the Partners Cup, a Cesafi-sanctioned event, there is a possibility that they will no longer be representing Cesafi in the Hong Kong tilt.

“Their participation in Hong Kong depends on this because they might be excluded from the team,” said Villa.

After the invitation for Hong Kong was received, UV was the clear favorite to represent Cesafi having been the league’s champion in all eight seasons.

Although it is a combination of players from other Cesafi teams, the Hong Kong-bound squad is made up mostly of UV players and will be coached by UV’s Elmer Cabahug.

Gullas’ move

Cabahug said that it will now all come down to the decision of Gullas.

“Our fate whether we will represent Cebu in Hong Kong all depends on the schools owners now. Our joining VAAA is the decision of Sir Dodong and the school owners,” Cabahug said.

“I will make another comment until I get the response from the school heads,” Villa said.

“We just want to put an end to all these talks about which school is joining the VAAA because as far as we are concerned the school owners already made the decision,” said Villa.

Villa added that they will still be gathering all the school heads for another meeting to once more discuss the VAAA issue among the Cesafi members. (MCB)

[nardy]

Gullas urges CESAFI to scrap 'selfish and unpatriotic' ruling
By Emmanuel B. Villaruel
FREEMAN NEWS
Updated November 17, 2008 12:00 AM

CEBU - Unless the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation, Inc. (CESAFI) will scrap what he calls a "stupid, crazy and unpatriotic" rule, Cebu First District Representative and University of the Visayas (UV) President Eduardo "Eddiegul" R. Gullas won't allow their prized center Gregory Slaughter to form part of the national team.

Gullas said a portion of the CESAFI by-laws adopted on July 9, 2007 stipulates that "athletes who are members of the national team, national training pool and developmental pool receiving stipend/allowances from the Philippine Sports Commission (PSC) are disqualified from the CESAFI."

"It's a very selfish and unpatriotic rule. Very inimical to the national effort to put up a strong national team. It's so crazy and stupid," said Gullas. "Unless that provision is scrapped or repelled, I will not let Greg (Slaughter) join the national team."

Gullas said he is supportive to the desire of Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) led by its president Manny V. Pangilinan to form a highly competitive RP squad for future international competitions but not at the expense of UV.

"I would like to help in the national effort to put up a strong team but not at the expense of UV. Greg still has two more years with us and I'm afraid we will lose him only because of that crazy CESAFI ruling," blurted out Gullas.

Gullas said he will personally ask the CESAFI Board in their meeting tomorrow night to write off the said rule, which he perceives as a 'nemesis' to Philippine basketball.

"I am urging the CESAFI to scrap that rule. Every league should allow their best players to play for the flag and country. Besides, there's already a precedence in that kind of situation," said Gullas, referring to Jonathan Canceran of the University of Cebu (UC) Webmasters who was not barred from the CESAFI when he played for RP Youth team two years ago.

UV head coach Elmer "Boy" Cabahug, when sought for comment, echoed the sentiments of Gullas. "Once this matter will be resolved, we are more than willing to loan Slaughter to the national team. It's a big honor and pride for UV. For the meantime, we will have to clarify first if that rule is really in effect. We have to play it safe because we're the concerned school,"said the chief tactician of the eight-time CESAFI champion.

For his part, SBP executive director Noli Eala admonished the CESAFI upon learning that Slaughter backed out of the tryout for the national team because of the said ruling.

"I pity you Greg. This is extremely saddening and disappointing. This policy of CESAFI is clearly unpatriotic, outdated and counter productive," said Eala in a text message dissiminated to local sportscribes.

"The CESAFI schools follow this rule and then complain that provincial players are marginalized and not given the opportunity to join the national team. No one to blame but selfish CESAFI officials and their unreasonable policies. I will not stop until I make public opinion rise against this policy," added the former PBA commissioner.

But CESAFI commissioner Felix "Boy" O. Tiukinhoy, Jr. countered they do not have that kind of mandate.

"The CESAFI does not have such rule," said Tiukinhoy, even citing the case of Canceran. "If we have that kind of ruling, that only applies to players who suit up for commercial teams in Manila." "As far as we are concerned, it's an honor to have our CESAFI player be counted to play in the RP Team," he added.

Lately, the CESAFI has also been embroiled into a controversy after it passed a Board resolution barring its teams from participating in the Visayas Amateur Athletic Association (VAAA), a move that is strongly opposed by some CESAFI member schools.

[thadzonline]

Gullas urges CESAFI to scrap 'selfish and unpatriotic' ruling
By Emmanuel B. Villaruel
FREEMAN NEWS
Updated November 17, 2008 12:00 AM

CEBU - Unless the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation, Inc. (CESAFI) will scrap what he calls a "stupid, crazy and unpatriotic" rule, Cebu First District Representative and University of the Visayas (UV) President Eduardo "Eddiegul" R. Gullas won't allow their prized center Gregory Slaughter to form part of the national team.

Gullas said a portion of the CESAFI by-laws adopted on July 9, 2007 stipulates that "athletes who are members of the national team, national training pool and developmental pool receiving stipend/allowances from the Philippine Sports Commission (PSC) are disqualified from the CESAFI."

"It's a very selfish and unpatriotic rule. Very inimical to the national effort to put up a strong national team. It's so crazy and stupid," said Gullas. "Unless that provision is scrapped or repelled, I will not let Greg (Slaughter) join the national team."

Gullas said he is supportive to the desire of Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) led by its president Manny V. Pangilinan to form a highly competitive RP squad for future international competitions but not at the expense of UV.

"I would like to help in the national effort to put up a strong team but not at the expense of UV. Greg still has two more years with us and I'm afraid we will lose him only because of that crazy CESAFI ruling," blurted out Gullas.

Gullas said he will personally ask the CESAFI Board in their meeting tomorrow night to write off the said rule, which he perceives as a 'nemesis' to Philippine basketball.

"I am urging the CESAFI to scrap that rule. Every league should allow their best players to play for the flag and country. Besides, there's already a precedence in that kind of situation," said Gullas, referring to Jonathan Canceran of the University of Cebu (UC) Webmasters who was not barred from the CESAFI when he played for RP Youth team two years ago.

UV head coach Elmer "Boy" Cabahug, when sought for comment, echoed the sentiments of Gullas. "Once this matter will be resolved, we are more than willing to loan Slaughter to the national team. It's a big honor and pride for UV. For the meantime, we will have to clarify first if that rule is really in effect. We have to play it safe because we're the concerned school,"said the chief tactician of the eight-time CESAFI champion.

For his part, SBP executive director Noli Eala admonished the CESAFI upon learning that Slaughter backed out of the tryout for the national team because of the said ruling.

"I pity you Greg. This is extremely saddening and disappointing. This policy of CESAFI is clearly unpatriotic, outdated and counter productive," said Eala in a text message dissiminated to local sportscribes.

"The CESAFI schools follow this rule and then complain that provincial players are marginalized and not given the opportunity to join the national team. No one to blame but selfish CESAFI officials and their unreasonable policies. I will not stop until I make public opinion rise against this policy," added the former PBA commissioner.

But CESAFI commissioner Felix "Boy" O. Tiukinhoy, Jr. countered they do not have that kind of mandate.

"The CESAFI does not have such rule," said Tiukinhoy, even citing the case of Canceran. "If we have that kind of ruling, that only applies to players who suit up for commercial teams in Manila." "As far as we are concerned, it's an honor to have our CESAFI player be counted to play in the RP Team," he added.

Lately, the CESAFI has also been embroiled into a controversy after it passed a Board resolution barring its teams from participating in the Visayas Amateur Athletic Association (VAAA), a move that is strongly opposed by some CESAFI member schools.

That rule is taken out of context. Of course, if one is in the national team, you wouldn't expect him to also suit up for some other team at the same time. As I understand that rule, after national team service, the player can be reinstated just like Jonathan Canceran. Can't serve 2 masters at the same time.

[nardy]

That rule is taken out of context. Of course, if one is in the national team, you wouldn't expect him to also suit up for some other team at the same time. As I understand that rule, after national team service, the player can be reinstated just like Jonathan Canceran. Can't serve 2 masters at the same time.

Thadz have you seen said by-laws because if what Congressman Ed stated is what it is:


Gullas said a portion of the CESAFI by-laws adopted on July 9, 2007 stipulates that "athletes who are members of the national team, national training pool and developmental pool receiving stipend/allowances from the Philippine Sports Commission (PSC) are disqualified from the CESAFI."

It stated "disqualified from the CESAFI"

But then even if it is true that Canceran was allowed to return after playing two years ago for the youth team, the rule was only adopted last year. At least they should re-word it and be more specific as the portion "disqualified from the CESAFI" is so broad and does not say one can return after his tour of service for the National Team.

I remember Ogie Menor when he was part of the Youth Team while training with the said team he was also training and playing for San Beda. I also recall Samigue Eman had also the same arrangement with the University of Mindanao when he was part of the Lhuillier backed-RP Team. But it would be for the benefit of the National Team if the player does not have a divided attention.

[thadzonline]

^^I posted the excerpt of that rule at the Greg Slaughter thread, it's really open to a lot of interpretations but it did not categorically say disqualified from CeSAFI. It was stated in the present tense, so that could mean current NT players are supposedly not allowed to play in the ongoing CeSAFI tournament while they are serving the NT.

[nardy]

^^I posted the excerpt of that rule at the Greg Slaughter thread, it's really open to a lot of interpretations but it did not categorically say disqualified from CeSAFI. It was stated in the present tense, so that could mean current NT players are supposedly not allowed to play in the ongoing CeSAFI tournament while they are serving the NT.


yup i saw your post there but as I said we are again facing another problem as the National Pool of Rajko Toroman that's long term which would run more than 1 year. It would start by December this year upto 2011 or 2012.

[thadzonline]

yup i saw your post there but as I said we are again facing another problem as the National Pool of Rajko Toroman that's long term which would run more than 1 year. It would start by December this year upto 2011 or 2012.

That is the reason why if you remember or noticed in my previous posts, I have been pushing for a Cebu-based national pool :)

[nardy]

That is the reason why if you remember or noticed in my previous posts, I have been pushing for a Cebu-based national pool :)

that's a nice idea but with the set-up of Toroman wanting to closely monitor all the players to be chosen and have the players housed nearby to each other in one place that would make your idea hard to implement. That's also why the SBP is encouraging the foreign-based players to instead study here in the Philippines.

[thadzonline]

that's a nice idea but with the set-up of Toroman wanting to closely monitor all the players to be chosen and have the players housed nearby to each other in one place that would make your idea hard to implement. That's also why the SBP is encouraging the foreign-based players to instead study here in the Philippines.

This is possible in the long run, that is why it is important that Toroman should be able to transfer his basketball knowledge to as many coaches and in the largest scope as much as possible. This way we will be able to build on a system not only centered in Manila but also spread in the provinces

[nardy]

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10:21:39 PM Monday, November 17, 2008

UV Green Lancers to skip VAAA

EIGHT-time Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. champion University of the Visayas (UV) won’t defend its crown in the Visayas Amateur Athletic Association.

“We are no longer joining the VAAA. This was upon the recommendation of Didi (Gullas, UV sports director) and I approved it,” UV president and Cebu Rep. Eddie Gullas told Sun.Star Cebu.

The Cesafi board also voted last month to bar its members from joining VAAA, which it considers a rival league.

Earlier, UV head coach Elmer Cabahug said he wants his team to defend their VAAA trophy but added their team’s participation on the VAAA will depend on Gullas’ decision.

Meanwhile, after earlier saying that there are no rules in the league’s by-laws that prohibit players who have joined the RP team from competing in the Cesafi, commissioner Felix Tiukinhoy now admits there was a ground rule that was made by the athletic directors last year.

That ground rule prompted Gullas to advice their prized center, 6-foot-11 Greg Slaughter, from joining the tryouts for the RP team since it could mean the Filipino-American might not be able to play for the Cesafi season next year.

“That rule on disqualification suggests that once a player makes it to the national team and receives stipend from the

Philippine Sports Commission then they can no longer play for the Cesafi,” said Gullas.

However, Tiukinhoy said Cesafi is not stopping Slaughter from trying out for the RP team.

Honor

“It is only the ground rules during that season and not the by-laws. As far as Cesafi is concerned, it is not stopping Greg from trying out with the national team. In fact, we are encouraging it because it will be an honor to have a player in the RP team,” said Tiukinhoy.

University of Cebu athletic director Bernard Ricablanca said he along with the other athletic directors came up with a ground rule because during that year, several athletes were called by the RP team, but instead of letting them return to Cebu, national sports associations (NSAs) had them enrolled in Manila schools.

“That was when we came up with this ground rule. This is not in the by-laws, by the way, so it is flexible in a case to case basis. We change ground rules every year when the need arises,” Ricablanca said.

(MCB)

[ankle breaker]

if it's by far only one of the ground rules what is exactly the issue? CESAFI already ended and therefore negated that rule. aside from that, they can change the ground rules next year. there is always a way to resolve this issue if they really are willing to lend the services of their players to the national cause. there are so many good players in the CESAFI that's worth to be invited such as junmar fajardo, luther justiniani, kevin quilantang among others. let GS try for a slot in the RP team and serve the country if he's given a chance. if they are afraid GS will transfer to another school, let him sign an agreement that he will only play for UV in all his collegiate career if he wishes to sever his ties with UV, he can't play for another school but only in the PBL.

[nardy]

if it's by far only one of the ground rules what is exactly the issue? CESAFI already ended and therefore negated that rule. aside from that, they can change the ground rules next year. there is always a way to resolve this issue if they really are willing to lend the services of their players to the national cause. there are so many good players in the CESAFI that's worth to be invited such as junmar fajardo, luther justiniani, kevin quilantang among others. let GS try for a slot in the RP team and serve the country if he's given a chance. if they are afraid GS will transfer to another school, let him sign an agreement that he will only play for UV in all his collegiate career if he wishes to sever his ties with UV, he can't play for another school but only in the PBL.


to eliminate the fears of the CESAFI, the SBP should draft a MOA wherein the player's rights are secured by his mother school and he would not be allowed to transfer schools while the player is in the National Pool. But I recall in one of the first interviews of Noli Eala after they appointed Rajko Toroman, he already said about protecting the "player rights" of the mother school that's lending the player to the National Pool.

[nardy]

Cebu Sports UV won't join VAAA caging
Updated November 18, 2008 12:00 AM

CEBU - The third season of the Visayas Amateur Athletic Association (VAAA) men’s basketball tournament is left without a defending champion after the University of the Visayas (UV) Green Lancers decided to back out of the Visayas-wide league tentatively set to kick off on November 22 at the Cebu Coliseum.

“That is the recommendation of Sir Didi (Gullas) and I approved it for the reason that he’s the one in charge of the Green Lancers,” said UV president Eduardo “Eddiegul” R. Gullas without further elaborating the main reason of their sudden withdrawal.

Eddiegul was referring to his son Gerald Anthony “Didi” S. Gullas, the team manager of the UV Green Lancers who also serves as the school’s assistant vice president for finance and administration. “What the Green Lancers are today, it’s because of Didi. Whatever his decisions are, I will support it,” added Eddiegul.

Gullas explained that UV’s participation in the VAAA cage wars last year was based on valid grounds.

“We joined the VAAA last year out of spite for the CESAFI,” admitted Gullas. “When our player (Morsie Akad) suffered a knee injury during the Partner’s Cup, UV spent a substantial amount for his hospital bills but the CESAFI gave only a very small amount.”

Gullas added that when the VAAA was staged, the CESAFI season was already over and they found VAAA as an added exposure for their players.

“Lastly, Sir Didi listened to the clamor of the Cebuano basketball fans, who want to see the Green Lancers play against the other teams from the Visayas region. These are all the valid reasons why we can’t say no to VAAA last year,” said Gullas.

VAAA founder and legendary coach Raul “Yayoy” D. Alcoseba declined to comment on UV’s pulling the plug this time around on the league sanctioned by the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) and bankrolled by M. Lhuillier Kwarta Padala.

Alcoseba earlier acknowledged that the level of competition in VAAA will be greatly affected without the entry of CESAFI teams, but he remains hopeful that the Board will reconsider its decision.

Fortnight ago, the CESAFI Board passed a resolution prohibiting its member schools from seeing action in the VAAA.

Inspite of that, several CESAFI teams still signified their intent to compete in VAAA. But CESAFI president Rolando Villa of the University of Southern Philippines Foundation (USPF) issued a strong statement to all concerned parties to respect the Board’s decision or face serious consequences for their actions that are contrary to the league’s policy.


(EBV) (THE FREEMAN)

[ankle breaker]

If CESAFI teams will not join VAAA, it will be the turn of BIT-IC to reign supreme in that league. they have the tools to beat the remaining VAAA teams which is evident when they rule the visayas elims for zone 3 as well as their big win over WNU in zone 3 pccl qualifying tournament. once again, they will be lead by their prolific scorer in the name of wingman ferdinand "ferdie" lusdoc.

[nardy]

CESAFI rescinds controversial rule
by Emmanuel B. Villaruel
Updated November 19, 2008 12:00 AM

CEBU - Heeding the call of University of the Visayas (UV) president Eduardo “Eddiegul” R. Gullas, the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation, Inc. Board under the flagship of Rolando Villa has scrapped a provision in the CESAFI by-laws disqualifying players who are members of the national pool from the league.

“The [CESAFI] Board is making a resolution rescinding rule on prohibition of CESAFI players playing in the national pool,” said Villa in a text message to Gullas. Villa personally thanked Gullas for his “kind and dedicated interest to basketball.”

The other day, Gullas urged the CESAFI officials to repeal such ruling, which he deemed inimical to the efforts of Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) led by its president Manny V. Pangilinan to put up a strong national team for future international competitions.

While he is supportive of SBP’s desire, Gullas said he will not loan UV’s 6-foot-11 goliath Gregory Slaughter to the RP squad unless that particular CESAFI rule will be declared null and void.

Gullas was supposed to discuss the matter with Villa and the rest of the CESAFI Board members last night at the Cebu City Marriott Hotel, but the meeting was called off because the CESAFI swiftly addressed the issue affirmative to Gullas’ standpoint.

The CESAFI Board’s move is music to the ears of UV head coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug.

“Now that the issue regarding that CESAFI ruling has been resolved, we can push through our willingness to let Greg (Slaughter) play for the national team. It’s for the benefit not only of UV and the Cebuanos, but the entire nation as well,” said Cabahug, who propelled the UV Lancers to a record eight straight CESAFI championship.

Meanwhile, Cabahug said they will leave for Manila on November 25, three days ahead of their opening game against the University of the East (UE) Red Warriors in the Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) Final 16 Knockout Stage.

The PCCL opens on November 24, with the University of San Jose-Recoletos (USJ-R) Jaguars taking on the San Beda Red Lions. The other Cebu qualifier, the University of San Carlos (USC) Warriors, faces the toughest assignment against UAAP giant La Salle Green Archers on the 26th.

(THE FREEMAN)

[rhk111]

Is Xavier U a member of the VAAA? If not, they should be. Get that JP Erram play as much competitive games as possible.

[nardy]

Is Xavier U a member of the VAAA? If not, they should be. Get that JP Erram play as much competitive games as possible.

I do not think so because from what I know VAAA is for Visayas Teams while Xavier which is located in Cagayan de Oro is in Mindanao.

And from what I heard not many are keen in inviting Xavier U as thier games usually have fights or "rumbles" as their players are really notoriously "bad boys". I do not know if they are just misinterpreted.

[nardy]

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VAAA moves opening to Nov. 29
12:59:30 AM Friday, November 21, 2008

THE Visayas Athletic Amateur Association (VAAA) will hold its third season with or without the participation of the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (Cesafi) member schools.

However, VAAA officials, led by its founer Raul “Yayoy” Alcoseba, have decided to move the opening of the tournament on Nov. 29 instead of tomorrow.

The opening ceremony will also no longer be held at the Cebu Coliseum but will be in Ormoc City as two of its participants– the AMA Computer College and the Western Leyte College—are both based in Ormoc City.

This move stemmed from the sudden decision of defending champion University of the Visayas Green Lancers not to join the competition last Tuesday.

UV gave in to the demand of the Cesafi board who voted 6-1 in barring its teams from participating in the VAAA.

However, VAAA will be playing with two Cebu teams, the Asian College of Technology Cyber Knights and the Salazar Colleges of Science and Institute of Technology Skyblazers. (RCM)

[FilWelsh]

that's a nice idea but with the set-up of Toroman wanting to closely monitor all the players to be chosen and have the players housed nearby to each other in one place that would make your idea hard to implement. That's also why the SBP is encouraging the foreign-based players to instead study here in the Philippines.


housing or quartering the players together is a good idea but it's logistically difficult to enforce it. . . specifically some of the players are Cebu-based who are still studying. . . i doubt if these schools will allow Slaughter, Fajardo and company to be absent for lengthy periods, these players have academic as well as athletic obligations which requires their constant presence such class sessions and collegiate team practices. . . i still believe finishing a collegiate degree reigns over before any basketball endeavors. . . implementing quartering would disrupt studies thereby future of these young men not only Cebuano aspirants but Manila-based players as well. . . quartering however is appropriate to those aspirants who already finished their studies. . . Encouraging foreign-based players like Ray Parks Jr. to study here is a step backward. why study in RP when the prospects of better training and chance of playing of an NCAA Div I is on the brink of reality?

at the moment, Toroman must just focus his sights on the players who already graduated from university. . . and for their Cebu-based contemporaries just send a skills and conditioning coaches to further develop their games so as when they finished schooling there's an easy facilitation or transition to Toroman's team. . .

though i'm favor in utilizing a seven-footer naturalized player, enjoying this option is not appropriate on the team's early stages of development. . . i'm hoping when Aguilar, Slaughter and Fajardo would soon be available, they will be these developmental team's cornerstone in the frontline. . . with a naturalized player playing with them in early stages, he will surely take playing time opportunities away from these young locals (who really need much exposure by playing more minutes internationally, thereby gaining composure and confidence). . . i think this naturalized player will be better come in early 2011 (preparation for Olympic qualifiers), for the meantime if he's available he can help RP Yeng Guiao's team. . .

[nardy]

All's well that ends well
THE SCORE By Rafael B. Osumo Updated November 21, 2008 12:00 AM

CEBU - First CESAFI denied having the rule, then retracted and ultimately scrapped it. The errant ground rule drew the ire of Rep. Eddie Gullas who called it “stupid, crazy and unpatriotic.”

The rule disqualifies athletes who have been a member of the national team, training pool, etc. from playing for his or her CESAFI team. According to CESAFI, they formulate the ruling, with the athletic directors of member schools, after some Manila schools started “pirating” Cebuano players who would try out for the national team.

For a moment, Gullas took measure to protect UV’s 6-11 center Greg Slaughter to the extent of keeping him from the national team.

Now that CESAFI Board rescinded the rule, I guess all’s well that ends well.

Greg Slaughter got the invite to try out for the national team that Yeng Guiao assembled. The team has the talent but again lacks big men to patrol the shaded area. The center position has been the weakness of past national teams and this current team is no exception.

Slaughter’s bulk could help the team. The young Fil-Am has the size to fight for the rebounds and is a decent shot blocker. With proper training, the giant could be a better big man than the likes of Bonel Balingit, EJ Feihl or even Marlou Aquino.

An intriguing question though came up after discussion with a friend. He asked me if the “sudden” withdrawal of UV from VAAA has something to do with CESAFI’s decision in rescinding the errant rule.

For comments, please write rabai_o@yahoo.com. (THE FREEMAN)

[UnitedAmeircanTikiTiki]

^^^ I taught GS was only invited for Toroman's team?? So he also got an invite from Yeng Guiao????

[nardy]

^^^ I taught GS was only invited for Toroman's team?? So he also got and an invite from Yeng Guiao????

Since Japeth is injured and the option for a naturalized player seems to be out, it is good that they consider GS for the 2009 Team as it would gain him experience with the Asian Big boys and he would not be pushed so much as he would surely not be asked to carry the team as he would be a mere back-up. Despite being raw, with his size and heft, he would still be an asset.

[C2Hamm]

how i wish coach Toro and his coaching staff would go to the south, even if its just in Cebu, to teach the coaches down south(bohol, negros, cdo, cebu, etc) and to give a day or two of practice/tryoout to possible southern talent. right now even if we have some tall talents, they are NOT being considered due to a number of reasons like: lack of competition against other bigs, poor condition, and even not having the right training for a bigman. i hope this could be addressed so we wont rely on one or two players when we have a lot to tap.

[bolabasket]

how i wish coach Toro and his coaching staff would go to the south, even if its just in Cebu, to teach the coaches down south(bohol, negros, cdo, cebu, etc) and to give a day or two of practice/tryoout to possible southern talent. right now even if we have some tall talents, they are NOT being considered due to a number of reasons like: lack of competition against other bigs, poor condition, and even not having the right training for a bigman. i hope this could be addressed so we wont rely on one or two players when we have a lot to tap.
I also wish Toroman would go to Basilan....he'll find a 6-8 PG, 6-8 SG, 6-9 SF, 7-0 PF & 7-3 C...6 feet below the ground :D

[nardy]

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Cesafi to decide which basketball NSA to back
11/19/2008 - 22:51

THE Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (Cesafi) is in another crossroad as it now needs to make another decision whether to throw its support for the embattled national sports association body for basketball.

Cesafi, a stakeholder of the basketball NSA, has been thrown back and forth as the two factions of the Samahang Basketball ng Pilipinas and Basketball Association of the Philippines (BAP-SBP) both claim to be the rightful group.

When the issue went to court the first time and the court decided BAP was the rightful, Cesafi announced its loyalty, but when SBP filed an appeal, Cesafi decided to keep neutral until the court speaks.

Recently, the CA decision by Justice Josefina Salonga overturned an earlier decision by the Manila Regional Trial Court that recognized the group of former congressmen Prospero Pichay and Luis Villafuerte as the new president and chairman of the BAP-SBP and recognized the faction led by Manny Pangilinan and Governor Oscar Moreno.

Cesafi, one of the biggest stakeholders, is now taking things in stride.

“We cannot say that we are jumping ship right away. For the record, Cesafi has not recognized any organization yet but we support the basketball programs of both organizations,” said Cesafi commissioner Felix Tiukinhoy.

Cesafi has been recipients of the various programs of both organizations. It is sending a team to Hong Kong next month, which is a project of the Pichay faction, while three Cesafi teams will take part in the Philippine Collegiate Champions League, which is a program adopted by the Pangilinan wing.

“We will decide once the league receives a copy of the decision. Once we get it, the board will then sit and discuss about the step they will be taking next,” he added.

Meanwhile, during the first court ruling, the SBP filed an appeal, this time its BAP’s turn to ask for a reconsideration.

(MCB)

[FastskinPRO]

So much politics in basketball, Let the kids just play!
-For the love of the Game

[rhk111]

(Chuckle, shakes head). 'Dyan ako bilib sa CESAFI. Pinoproblema pa kung sinong basketball NSA ang susundin, habang napaka obvious naman kung aling NSA ang sinusuportahan ng FIBA.' (translation: I can't believe CESAFI still has a problem choosing which basketball NSA to support, when it is so obvious which body is supported by FIBA).

[nardy]

(Chuckle, shakes head). 'Dyan ako bilib sa CESAFI. Pinoproblema pa kung sinong basketball NSA ang susundin, habang napaka obvious naman kung aling NSA ang sinusuportahan ng FIBA.' (translation: I can't believe CESAFI still has a problem choosing which basketball NSA to support, when it is so obvious which body is supported by FIBA).

it just shows, they are really true supporters of the BAP. It could be personal friendships .... "utang na loob" (translation: owe of gratitude)

.... let's just hope they soon realize which group is really for the development of Philippine basketball.

[manu_bol]

it just shows, they are really true supporters of the BAP. It could be personal friendships .... "utang na loob" (translation: owe of gratitude)

.... let's just hope they soon realize which group is really for the development of Philippine basketball.
just like what sonny barrios did when he put on hold the announcement of the NT because he can't decide which NSA the PBA should follow. I feel he is also personally inclined to favor BAP.

[ankle breaker]

CESAFI named their selection to play in hongkong.
Here are the names that I heard part of the team:

1. Greg Slaughter - UV 6'11" C
2. Junmar Fajardo - UC 6'9" C
3. Eulogio Lasala Jr. - UV 6'3" F
4. Manny Gabas - USJR 6'5" FC
5. Ranulfo Malinao Jr. - USJR 6'4" FC
6. Lyndon Gudez - USJR 5'11" G
7. Moncrief Rogado - USPF 6'1" G
8. Luther Luke Justiniani - USJR 6'2" G
9. Ricmar Perturbos - DBC 6'5" F
10. Chris Diputado - UV 5'9" G
11. Jabe Kristewart Delfino - USJR 6'3" F
12. Armand Ponce - USJR 5'9" F
13. Eluid Poligrates - SWU 5'11" G
14. Von Lanete - UV 5'11" G
15. Mikee Cabahug - UV 6'2" G

I think the core of players are from UV and USJR. while rest are top players from their team. I was hoping they will get Emel Rowe of USC, Sherwin Abobo of CIT , Kevyn Quilantang or Robinson Mohammad of UC.

[nardy]

CESAFI named their selection to play in hongkong.
Here are the names that I heard part of the team:

1. Greg Slaughter - UV 6'11" C
2. Junmar Fajardo - UC 6'9" C
3. Eulogio Lasala Jr. - UV 6'3" F
4. Manny Gabas - USJR 6'5" FC
5. Ranulfo Malinao Jr. - USJR 6'4" FC
6. Lyndon Gudez - USJR 5'11" G
7. Moncrief Rogado - USPF 6'1" G
8. Luther Luke Justiniani - USJR 6'2" G
9. Ricmar Perturbos - DBC 6'5" F
10. Chris Diputado - UV 5'9" G
11. Jabe Kristewart Delfino - USJR 6'3" F
12. Armand Ponce - USJR 5'9" F
13. Eluid Poligrates - SWU 5'11" G
14. Von Lanete - UV 5'11" G
15. Mikee Cabahug - UV 6'2" G

I think the core of players are from UV and USJR. while rest are top players from their team. I was hoping they will get Emel Rowe of USC, Sherwin Abobo of CIT , Kevyn Quilantang or Robinson Mohammad of UC.

Emel is gonna stay in Manila for more tryouts, he's looking for a new team.

[ankle breaker]

Here's the final lineup of the CESAFI selection that will compete in Hongkong's 17th Super Kung Sheung Cup International Basketball Invitation Championships this coming December.

1. Greg Slaughter - 6'11" C of UV Green Lancers
2. Junmar Fajardo - 6'9" C of UC Webmasters
3. Eulogio Lasala Jr. - 6'2" SF of UV Green Lancers
4. Manny Gabas - 6'4" C of USJR Jaguars
5. Ranulfo Malinao Jr. - 6'3" PF/C of USJR Jaguars
6. Ricmar Perturbos - 6'5" SF of DBC Greywolves
7. Moncrief Rogado - 6'1" SG of USPF Panthers
8. Armand Ponce - USJR 5'9" PG of USJR Jaguars
9. Ritchum Dennison - UV 5'10" SG of UV Green Lancers
10. Jabe Kristewart Delfino - 6'3" PF of USJR Jaguars
11. Alfred Belande - 6'2" SF of SWU Cobras
12. Chris Diputado - 5'9" G of UV Green Lancers

Head Coach: Elmer "Boy" Cabahug of UV Green Lancers
Asst Coach: Edito "Eddie" Salacot of USJR Jaguars

average height: 6'2"

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Commissioner quits Cesafi post
Sunstar Cebu
Tuesday, November 27, 2007

CESAFI commish Tiukinhoy resigns
The Freeman
Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Cesafi commissioner Tiukinhoy resigns
Cebu Daily News
Last updated 02:38pm (Mla time) 11/27/2007

today a year ago? lol.....

[rhk111]

Can any of our foreign friends here give an insight into the kind of teams that will be competing in the "Hongkong's 17th Super Kung Sheung Cup International Basketball Invitation Championships"? Feifei and company, maybe? How good are the other teams?

[rhk111]

just like what sonny barrios did when he put on hold the announcement of the NT because he can't decide which NSA the PBA should follow. I feel he is also personally inclined to favor BAP.

I don't remember Sonny Barrios put on hold the announcement of the NT because the PBA couldn't decide which NSA to follow. Links, please.

[ankle breaker]

Can any of our foreign friends here give an insight into the kind of teams that will be competing in the "Hongkong's 17th Super Kung Sheung Cup International Basketball Invitation Championships"? Feifei and company, maybe? How good are the other teams?
Hongkong 17th Super Kung Sheung Cup International Basketball Invitation Championships will be on Dec. 16-21 at Hongkong Stadium.
I got the info in the links below.
http://www.basketball.org.hk/
http://www.basketball.org.hk/08sksc-ticketForm.pdf

[nikeboy]

thadz i guess JF is on his second year. he missed the whole of last season though because of an injury. He played in 2006.
JF IS NOW 3RD YEAR IN THE SEASON, HE MISSED THE CESAFI LAST YEAR B'COZ OF INJURY, WHEN SLAUGHTER PLAYED HIS FIRST APPEARANCE IN CESAFI, NEXT SEASON JF WILL BE IN 4TH YR, AND GS IS 3RD YR.

[nikeboy]

CESAFI named their selection to play in hongkong.
Here are the names that I heard part of the team:

1. Greg Slaughter - UV 6'11" C
2. Junmar Fajardo - UC 6'9" C
3. Eulogio Lasala Jr. - UV 6'3" F
4. Manny Gabas - USJR 6'5" FC
5. Ranulfo Malinao Jr. - USJR 6'4" FC
6. Lyndon Gudez - USJR 5'11" G
7. Moncrief Rogado - USPF 6'1" G
8. Luther Luke Justiniani - USJR 6'2" G
9. Ricmar Perturbos - DBC 6'5" F
10. Chris Diputado - UV 5'9" G
11. Jabe Kristewart Delfino - USJR 6'3" F
12. Armand Ponce - USJR 5'9" F
13. Eluid Poligrates - SWU 5'11" G
14. Von Lanete - UV 5'11" G
15. Mikee Cabahug - UV 6'2" G

I think the core of players are from UV and USJR. while rest are top players from their team. I was hoping they will get Emel Rowe of USC, Sherwin Abobo of CIT , Kevyn Quilantang or Robinson Mohammad of UC.

ROWE WAS INVITED TO TRY OUT BUT HE MISSED/REJECTED ALL THE CALLS OF ELMER CABAHUG. THEN, CINCOFLORES WAS SUPPOSEDLY JOINING THE TEAM BUT HE GOT A PROBLEM WITH HIS BIRTH , HES NOT ABLE TO GET A PASSPORT.

[FilWelsh]

Here's the final lineup of the CESAFI selection that will compete in Hongkong's 17th Super Kung Sheung Cup International Basketball Invitation Championships this coming December.

1. Greg Slaughter - 6'11" C of UV Green Lancers
2. Junmar Fajardo - 6'9" C of UC Webmasters
3. Eulogio Lasala Jr. - 6'2" SF of UV Green Lancers
4. Manny Gabas - 6'4" C of USJR Jaguars
5. Ranulfo Malinao Jr. - 6'3" PF/C of USJR Jaguars
6. Ricmar Perturbos - 6'5" SF of DBC Greywolves
7. Moncrief Rogado - 6'1" SG of USPF Panthers
8. Armand Ponce - USJR 5'9" PG of USJR Jaguars
9. Ritchum Dennison - UV 5'10" SG of UV Green Lancers
10. Jabe Kristewart Delfino - 6'3" PF of USJR Jaguars
11. Alfred Belande - 6'2" SF of SWU Cobras
12. Chris Diputado - 5'9" G of UV Green Lancers

Head Coach: Elmer "Boy" Cabahug of UV Green Lancers
Asst Coach: Edito "Eddie" Salacot of USJR Jaguars

average height: 6'2"

multi-talented Luther Justiniani who play like Hontiveros is missing? . . . aside from GS and JF, Justiniani is the only other Cebuano player worthy to be included in Toroman's team. . . forget Emel Rowe, he is a headache. . .

[nikeboy]

multi-talented Luther Justiniani who play like Hontiveros is missing? . . . aside from GS and JF, Justiniani is the only other Cebuano player worthy to be included in Toroman's team. . . forget Emel Rowe, he is a headache. . .
THE CESAFI HAS BEEN PRACTICING, the team was formed after try outs. howver there were three players who were earlier eyed to make the team but failed to make the cut for various reasons. first, LANETE, but not confirmed to released by harbor, he is currently playing in PBL, Cincoflores of U.v , failed toto make the team b'coz of discrepancies in hi birth one of the docs. required for passport, emel rowe of Usc. failed to attend th trials as Usc was in cagayan for PCCL, but he has given the chance but he nevr showed up at practice,,,,,

[pachador]

what is the age limit in cesafi ?
whats the age limit in the UAAP and NCAA of the philippines?

does the player have to sit out 1 year or so in the cesafi if he is a transferee from, let say, the U.S. ?

how many years does a transferee from the U.S. have to sit out before he can play in the Philippine NCAA or UAAP?

any other things i should know as far as requirements for fil-am transferees to either the UAAP, NCAA or CESAFI ?

thanks

[thadzonline]

what is the age limit in cesafi ?
whats the age limit in the UAAP and NCAA of the philippines?

does the player have to sit out 1 year or so in the cesafi if he is a transferee from, let say, the U.S. ?

how many years does a transferee from the U.S. have to sit out before he can play in the Philippine NCAA or UAAP?

any other things i should know as far as requirements for fil-am transferees to either the UAAP, NCAA or CESAFI ?

thanks

no residency requirements in CeSAFI except if transferring from 1 CeSAFI school to another, age limit is should not be 25 at start of tournament(sometime early August)

[pachador]

how about NCAA and UAAP, isnt the age limit 23?

how about the PBL, whats the requirements?

I know this fil-am who grew up in cebu and who is currently in the states, he is a good player about 5'11" to 6'2" (never asked him about his height). the problem is that he is already 22 yrs old.

what do you recommend? CESAFI then PBL ? or should he just join the PBL right away ?




no residency requirements in CeSAFI except if transferring from 1 CeSAFI school to another, age limit is should not be 25 at start of tournament(sometime early August)

[thadzonline]

how about NCAA and UAAP, isnt the age limit 23?

how about the PBL, whats the requirements?

I know this fil-am who grew up in cebu and who is currently in the states, he is a good player about 5'11" to 6'2" (never asked him about his height). the problem is that he is already 22 yrs old.

what do you recommend? CESAFI then PBL ? or should he just join the PBL right away ?

whatever team he joins first, he should stay at least 2 years(especially CeSAFI). If he joins PBL right away, he must make sure he has what it takes and have the necessary connects. If he is 6'2 max, he wont be an instant hot commodity so he has to show he's got what it takes. The NAASCU wouldnt be a bad choice as well.

[pachador]

he told me his friend is bringing him for tryouts at la lasalle, but isnt it that if he joins la salle, he would have to sit out for 1 year? or no ? plus NCAA has a max age limit of 23 right ? BTW, he did his high school in cebu.

is there anything to be gained other than be a practice player at la salle ? (because of the NCAA 23 yrs old age limit) unless he is just going to la salle for serious studies with basketball coming in second. your opinions?



whatever team he joins first, he should stay at least 2 years(especially CeSAFI). If he joins PBL right away, he must make sure he has what it takes and have the necessary connects. If he is 6'2 max, he wont be an instant hot commodity so he has to show he's got what it takes. The NAASCU wouldnt be a bad choice as well.

[nardy]

http://www.inboundpass.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/uaap_logo_big.jpg

As your guide here is the UAAP rules, but please note that the rules changes from time to time depending on who is the Host School.

UAAP Rules and Regulations

PLAYER’S ELIGIBILITY

General Requirements

All athletes in the Junior Division must be elementary graduates or its equivalent in the case of integrated schools.

All athletes in the Senior Division must be high school graduates or shall have been certified as duly qualified for promotion to college.

All athletes must be certified by the registrar of the Member University concerned as being officially enrolled therein during the current semester/term.

An incoming collegiate athlete is defined as a fresh high school graduate and/or a transferee who is eligible under the UAAP rules.

An incoming collegiate athlete who is a high school graduate from a UAAP Member University and enrolled in another Member University shall take a mandatory one year residency except when a prior clearance is issued by the Member University concerned for the voluntary release of such athlete.
Except as provided in these Rules, the residency requirement for students who have studied abroad in order to be eligible to play in the UAAP, shall be two (2) consecutive years having been duly enrolled in the Philippines and having satisfactorily met the academic requirements by passing the minimum number of units required. For transferees, the rules on transfer students shall apply. Further, the following cases are exempted:
Children of parents assigned abroad due to the nature of their jobs;
Children whose parents are OFW’s and stationed abroad.
Filipino students who had their 2nd high school graduation abroad, provided the 1st graduation was from a high school in the Philippines.

All athletes who took a PEP test or its equivalent qualifying examination or test for admission to high school or college shall be subject to a mandatory one (1) year residency requirement effective SY 2007 – 2008.

Any athlete who joins any draft pool in any professional league or professional sporting event, regardless of whether or not officially drafted or included in the line up, shall automatically be deemed ineligible to play.

Any athlete who joins any coaching staff of any professional league or professional sporting event in whatever capacity (e.g. Consultant, assistant coach, trainer, etc.) may be deemed ineligible to play in the UAAP as determined by the board.

On the other hand, an athlete who has been listed in the official line up or has played in the PBL shall, before being allowed to play in the UAAP be required to establish two (2) years residency in the UAAP. In such case his PBL playing years shall be counted as UAAP playing year.

OTHER REQUIREMENTS

For High School Students:

For purposes of age requirement, all High School athletes shall not be more than 19 years old as of July 31 of such particular UAAP season.

For purposes of enrollment, a high school athlete must take all the regular subjects corresponding to the year level enrolled in.

Eligibility shall be based on promotion provided that such athlete does not have two (2) or more back subjects when promoted to any level.

A High School athlete shall have a maximum of four (4) playing years within five (5) High School years reckoned from the academic year of elementary graduation.

For College Students:

For Purposes of age requirement, all college athletes shall not be more than 25 years old as of July 31 of such particular UAAP season.A college athlete must be enrolled in at least four (4) subjects with a total of a least twelve (12) units in a duly approved course leading to a four (4) or more year bachelor’s degree.

A college athlete must be enrolled in at least four (4) subjects with a total of a least twelve (12) units in a duly approved course leading to a four (4) or more year bachelor’s degree.

Should the curriculum require an athlete’s enrollment in a practicum or its equivalent, with less than twelve (12) units, the athlete may be allowed to play provided that all other eligibility requirements are compiled with. Such athlete shall submit a certification duly signed by the University Registrar of the member University concerned attesting to the fact such athlete is enrolled in a practicum or its equivalent with less than twelve (12) units. Such athlete may be allowed to play upon the approval of the board.

A college athlete who is taking two (2) or three (3) units only to complete the requirements for graduation may play provided all other eligibility requirements are complied with. Such athlete may be allowed to play upon approval of the board.

A college athlete must be duly enrolled in the term when the sporting event of which such athlete is eligible to play.

Summer residence and summer grades shall not be considered in determining the academic eligibility of an athlete.

An athlete who had just graduated from high school is eligible to play during his/her entire freshman year. Freshman year shall mean the first and second semesters (or three (3) trimesters) of one particular school year only.

For Graduate Students

College athletes who have graduated from a first bachelor’s degree and are taking a second bachelor’s degree in the same member University are eligible to play as long as they have not exceeded their UAAP playing time of five years and are within the seven years reckoned from the year of graduation from high school.

College athletes who take a second bachelor’s degree either from a UAAP or non-UAAP Member University in another school, shall establish a one (1) year residency and are eligible to play as long as they have not exceeded their UAAP playing time of five years and are within the seven years reckoned from the year of graduation from high school.

College athletes who are degree/diploma or certificate holders from abroad are not eligible.

College athletes who have graduated with a bachelor’s degree and are taking a graduate degree from the same Member University shall be allowed to play in the UAAP and are eligible to play as long as they have not exceeded their UAAP playing time of five years and are within the seven years reckoned from the year of graduation from high school.

ELIGIBILITY DOCUMENTS

PROCEDURE

Within the deadline set by the Eligibility Committee, each member University shall submit a list of participating athletes for each sporting event, together with all the necessary supporting papers, such as but not limited to the following:

Athletes’ Eligibility Summary together with photo gallery.

Athlete’s Information / Eligibility Report certified correct by the University

Registrar and duly noted by a board member of the member University concerned.

Athlete’s Academic Registration Data certified correct by the University Registrar and duly noted by a board member of the member University concerned.

The Eligibility Committee shall review the eligibility documents and other requirement and submit its findings and recommendations to the board for approval one (1) week before the start of competition. Athletes whose supporting papers are not submitted on time play at the risk of their games being forfeited if these papers are later found to be falsified, spurious, unacceptable, or deemed illegally or unlawfully acquired in which case, the member University and/or the athlete concerned shall be subject to such action as the board may determine.

DOCUMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED BY INCOMING ATHLETES

Birth Certificates (NSO and/or Embassy/Consular Office authenticated)

Form 138 (school card) for High School freshmen or Form 137 (Transcript of Record) for High School transfer students (Certified True Copy).

Form 138 or Transcript of Records for College (Certified True Copy).
ACR and/or Study Permit of foreign athletes whose citizenship is non-Filipino, as the case may be.

Such additional documentary and other requirements that the Eligibility Committee may require to be submitted.

QUALIFYING MARK

A College athlete must have passed the required number of subjects in the term immediately preceding the start of competitions for such sporting event.

When taking any number of subjects per semester/trimester, a College athlete must pass:

3 out of 4 subjects
3 out of 5 subjects
4 out of 6 subjects
4 out of 7 subjects
5 out of 8 subjects
6 out of 9 subjects
7 out of 10 subjects

This shall include subjects with two (2) or more units only, it being understood that a one (1) unit subject may be added to another one (1) unit subject in order to complete one (1) two (2) unit subject.
Grades of “Dropped��?, “Withdrawn��?, “Conditioned��?, “4��?, or its equivalent shall be deemed as non-passing marks. A grade of Incomplete (INC) or its equivalent may be considered as a passing mark if the same is completed and submitted to the Eligibility Committee in time for the board meeting on the eligibility of the sporting event involving the athlete concerned. The consideration of such mark as completed shall be subject to approval by the board.

The University Registrar of the member University concerned shall, within two (2) weeks from the opening of classes issue a signed certification in cases where a college athlete has enrolled in a subject that is subsequently dissolved. The certification shall be submitted to the Eligibility Committee for appropriate action.

An athlete who has officially dropped and/or has filed an official Leave of Absence (LOA) will be eligible provide he/she passed the required number of subjects in the semester previous to his official dropping or LOA.

ADDITION AND/OR REPLACEMENT OF ATHLETES

The eligibility Committee may only consider addition or replacement of athletes for eligibility not later than the scheduled meeting of the Committee to review and submit its findings and recommendations for Board approval pertaining to a particular sporting event.

In case an athlete is found ineligible during the Eligibility Committee meeting, such athlete may be replaced within seventy two (72) hours from knowledge of such fact, it being understood that Saturdays, Sundays or holidays are not included. Such replacement shall include the submission of all the required documentary requirements for eligibility purposes within the same period.

An athlete who replaces an ineligible athlete may play only upon the written favorable recommendation of the Eligibility Committee.

The Eligibility Committee shall submit the eligibility of such athlete for Board approval at the meeting or by way of a referendum vote as the ease may be.

No addition or replacement of athlete shall be allowed after the Board meeting on eligibility, except as may be allowed by the Board upon favorable recommendation of the Eligibility Committee.

WITHDRAWAL OF ATHLETES

An athlete may be withdrawn from the official line-up for whatever reason after the Eligibility Committee meeting and during the Board meeting on eligibility. In such ease, the withdrawal shall not be counted as a playing year.

ln case an athlete is withdrawn for whatever reason after the Board meeting on Eligibility, such withdrawals shall be counted as a playing year of the athlete concerned.

In all cases of withdrawal of an athlete from the official line up for whatever reason, no replacement shall be allowed.

PROTEST ON ELIGIBILITY

Protest on player’s eligibility shall be presented in writing to the Chairperson of the Eligibility Committee and any Board Member of the University being protested against, anytime from the start of competition up to the end of the first round.

The eligibility of an athlete may no longer be questioned twenty-four (24) hours before the start of the second round, except in cases where there has been negligence on the part of the Member University, as determined by the Board.

The Board reserves the right to impose such sanctions on team official proven to have been involved in any such irregularity, illegality or anomaly.

MISREPRESENTATION OF DOCUMENTS

Any athlete established to have submitted falsified records/documents in order to gain eligibility shall be banned from any UAAP competition. Such disqualification shall be communicated to the National Sports Association concerned.

RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT

Transfer Students

From UAAP Member University

An undergraduate transferee who is an athlete (regular or training team) from a UAAP member University must establish two (2) years - meaning 730 calendar days of continuous residency in such Member University.
The resident years of an athlete will be counted as two (2) playing years if he/she transfers to another Member University.

Athletes who transfer from a UAAP Member University to another UAAP Member University shall only be required to establish one-year residency instead of two (2) years if such athletes are voluntarily released with a written clearance by the concerned UAAP Member University.

From Non-UAAP Member University

No undergraduate or high school transferee from a non-UAAP Member University shall be allowed to play in the UAAP unless he/she has established one (l) year residency, it being understood that the one-year residency is equivalent to three hundred sixty live (365) calendar days of continuous residency in such university.

Except for those who re-enroll in the same university, athletes who stop schooling for two (2) or more years must establish one (1) year residency in a Member University before being allowed to play in the UAAP. ln such case, the year of residency shall not be counted as a playing year.
Athletes pursuing a second bachelor’s degree or its equivalent in another university shall establish a one (l) year residency before being allowed to play in the UAAP and subject to compliance with the UAAP eligibility requirements.

For UAAP eligibility purposes, a high school graduate who is enrolled in a vocational course after high school graduation is considered to have stopped schooling. lf a high school graduate enrolls in a vocational course in a UAAP Member University and transfers to another Member University’s degree program, he/she must establish a one (l) year residency before he/she will be allowed to play in the UAAP, regardless of whether he/she has spent less than two (2) years in the previous vocational course.

An athlete who is in the process of establishing residency requirements in the UAAP shall not play for another team in any league; otherwise, an additional one (1) year residency shall be required. Such athlete may play for his/her own university outside the UAAP.

An athlete proven to have played for another team in violation of Rule:(e) ahove shall he prohibited from playing for one (l) calendar year starting from the time he/she last played for such team. The player’s suspension of (l)year shall be counted in his/her playing years in the UAAP.

No residency requirement will be imposed to an athlete whose team has been disbanded by his/her UAAP Member University and who transfers to play for another UAAP Member University.

NUMBER OF PLAYING YEARS

A college athlete can have a maximum residency of seven (7) years in the UAAP, reckoned from the academic year that such athlete graduated from high school. Of these seven (7) years, only five (5) years shall be the actual playing years in the UAAP. These shall include playing years in the NCAA, CUSAA, SCUAA, NCRAA and other collegiate leagues.

PERMISSION TO PLAY OUTSIDE THE UAAP

No athlete and/or team of any UAAP Member University may play for any other entity for the duration of the UAAP tournament in which such athlete/team is/are participating except;

Exhibition Games
Barangay Level Tournament
DECS - CHED Organized competitions
National Team Selections
Tournament for ranking purposes provided he/she represents his/her UAAP Member University or him/herself
AFP
NSA organized tournament
Alumni organized tournaments.
Commercial Leagues except PBL

Provided, however, that such tournament is not in conflict with the UAAP schedules. In such case, priority shall always be given to the UAAP. A prior written request for participation in such tournament must be submitted to the Board for its approval.

In case a basketball athlete intends to join the PBL team after two (2) UAAP playing years, the approval of the Athletic Director or its equivalent of the concerned UAAP Member University shall be required.

CITIZENSHIP OF PLAYERS AND TEAM COMPOSITION

A maximum of two foreign athletes will be allowed per team with only one such foreign athlete playing at a time in a team competition.
Except as provided in these Rules, the residency requirement for students who have studied abroad in order to be eligible to play in the UAAP, shall be two (2) consecutive years having been duly enrolled in the Philippines where such students desire to play and having satisfactorily met the academic requirements by passing the minimum number of units required. ln the case of transferees, the rules on transfer students shall apply.Further, the following cases are exempted:

Children of parents assigned abroad due to the nature of their jobs;
Children of parents who are OFW’s; and
Filipino students who had their 2nd high school graduation abroad, provided the 1st graduation was from a high school in the Philippines

Effective UAAP Season 70 (SY 2007-2008) as APPROVED by the UAAP Board of Trustees at is Annual Board Meeting on 22 May 2007

[thadzonline]

JF IS NOW 3RD YEAR IN THE SEASON, HE MISSED THE CESAFI LAST YEAR B'COZ OF INJURY, WHEN SLAUGHTER PLAYED HIS FIRST APPEARANCE IN CESAFI, NEXT SEASON JF WILL BE IN 4TH YR, AND GS IS 3RD YR.

in school, Junmar should already be in his 3rd year but if we talk about CeSAFI eligibility, he will still be playing his 3rd year since the season he sat out because of injury in 2007 will not be counted among his playing years.