LNB season 2008/2009

[rikhardur]

Federico Kammerichs leaves Murcia and Europe and comes back to Argentina, signing for Regatas Corrientes.

[alermac]

I was waiting for the season to start before posting the rosters (maybe because they are still in progress), but now i'll just have to :P

Kammerichs is the biggest signing of this offseason (his main reason for such a move is his wish to return to his province of Corrientes), but is not the only returnee: the other one is Germán Sciutto, a SF who was playing in LegaDue.

[rikhardur]

Just keep posting and then you can add a post containing the complete rosters, let's just keep this section constantly alive :)

I must say I was surprised to know that Kammerichs had decided to return to Argentina, do you know the reason (money?)?

[alermac]

Apparently, he and his wife decided they wanted to live in Corrientes again. Also, he is a good friend of coach Silvio Santander, who spent some months lobbying him for a comeback.

[alermac]

Another big comeback? a Buenos Aires paper says Boca Juniors is about to sign 40-year old Juan Espil, who last player for Manresa.

[rikhardur]

Another big comeback? a Buenos Aires paper says Boca Juniors is about to sign 40-year old Juan Espil, who last player for Manresa.
Wow I had completely lost track of him, I thought he had already retired. Great comeback indeed if it's confirmed.

[rikhardur]

LNB's new logo:


http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/logo%20nuevo%20lnb.jpg

http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/logo%20nuevo%20lnb2.jpg

[alermac]

I think the logo is better than the previous one, but still has no Argentinean colors... that kind of makes no sense.

Previous Logo:
http://www.clubosn.com.ar/Club/DEPORTES/Basquet/LOGO%20lnb-2006-7.gif

[alermac]

Now playing: Copa Argentina, LNB's official preseason tournament, which involves all 32 teams from LNB A (first division) and TNA (second division). Copa Argentina's Final Four will take place in Bahía Blanca, at the end of the month, while the league will start in early October.

[rikhardur]

I think the logo is better than the previous one, but still has no Argentinean colors... that kind of makes no sense.
I do agree. It should contain at least something that reminds of Argentina. But it's certainly better than the previous one :p

[rikhardur]

Libertad Sunchales signed G/F Jackie Manuel.

[alermac]

The number of releasing and hiring of imports is being extremely high:

-Olímpico cut PG Andre Dabney and C Ed Nelson.
-Quilmes cut PF Jaz Cowan and SF Duane John, replaced them with Marcus Fleming and Tiras Wade.
-Quimsa cut SF Ron Selleaze, replaced him with Erron Maxey.
-Lanús cut PG Carlos Cedeño and C Nathan Mielke.
-Regatas cut SG Carlos Riveros.

And this is only the preseason:rolleyes: This is probably the worst consequence of this season's new rule, which allows a maximum of 3 imports instead of 2. LNB teams have always been very demanding and little patient for its imports, and it can't really compete with many richer leagues, so the typical revolving door of imports that come and go is getting even bigger. Sometimes it just seems ridiculous, like they don't know what are they looking for of who do they sign.

[mvblair]

The number of releasing and hiring of imports is being extremely high:

-Olímpico cut PG Andre Dabney and C Ed Nelson. Wow, Ed Nelson was cut? Is he the center from University of Connecticut? I thought he was doing well overseas.
LNB teams have always been very demanding and little patient for its imports, and it can't really compete with many richer leagues, so the typical revolving door of imports that come and go is getting even bigger. Sometimes it just seems ridiculous, like they don't know what are they looking for of who do they sign. Do you think that LNB teams are bringing players in without knowing anything about them? Also, hasn't the big improvements of the league made imports less valuable?

[alermac]

Wow, Ed Nelson was cut? Is he the center from University of Connecticut? I thought he was doing well overseas.
Yes, he's the same guy. He also played in Finland, in Giessen (Germany's first division club) and Orense (Spain's second division club).

Anyway, being cut by an LNB team doesn't always reflect the guy's talent (or lack of). Tony Farmer once was released from Atenas, and a few weeks later he was averaging 10 ppg for the Golden State Warriors:rolleyes: And there have been some recent example of guys being quickly released, then jumping to another LNB team and playing at a stellar level for the rest of the season.

Do you think that LNB teams are bringing players in without knowing anything about them?
Not exactly "anything", but maybe their careers stats, the list of clubs they played for, and little else (there have been a few cases of clubs signing Americans, and not knowing whether the guy was black or white:eek: )... unless we're talking about a player with LNB experience: they are usually more valuable, not only because they can adapt but also because coaches know a bit more about their game, and can consult others about their character. If not, coaches and clubs mostly rely on what agents can offer them.

But then, every club, every coach and every management is different. There are better ones, too.

Also, hasn't the big improvements of the league made imports less valuable?
Definitely so. I guess the quality of the average national LNB player is pretty high compared to the imports LNB clubs can afford; or at least it's higher compared to what happens in other countries. It's really hard to find a guy who can average 20 points, or even 17; but then, why do coaches expect so much from them? why do they judge them so quickly?

[alermac]

Adding a little stat to the previous post: last season, the sumber of import player signings by LNB clubs was 74 (some players were on two teams during the season)

74 signings / 16 clubs = the average team signed 4 o 5 imports during the 44-game regular season. Since last season every team had 2 imports, that means the average import lasted less than 20 games with his team.

[alermac]

Libertad Sunchales signed G/F Jackie Manuel.
This happened just 10 days ago. He's been released today.

Also, there was a funny story involving Jaz Cowan in Quilmes. The club originally wanted Marcus Fleming, who already has 3 LNB seasons. He didn't come, so they signed Cowan. After the first few games, Quilmes had decided to release Cowan, and then agreed to sign Fleming. In the meantime, the soon-to-be-cut Cowan played the last preseason game so well that Quilmes coach decided to give him one more shot; so he stays, and Fleming doesn't come... yet.

The other two news are Olímpico signing PG/SG Charles Jones (5 LNB seasons, former Bull and Clipper), and Gimnasia getting young SG promise Nicolás de los Santos on loan from his Spanish club Granada.

[alermac]

Nathan Mielke (just released by Lanús) signed in Independiente. And Terrell Taylor (who played for Independiente last season, and was scheduled to return this season) just signed in Lanús. Wacky days.

The Copa Argentina Final 4 is set:

-Atenas, from Córdoba
http://www.atenas.com.ar/Gutierrez%2014%20Puntos.jpg
-Quimsa, from Santiago
-Boca Jrs., from Buenos Aires
-Peñarol, from Mar del Plata

Definitely, four of the top six teams LNB has to offer right now.

[alermac]

New signings:

-SF Anthony Johnson in Boca, temporarily replacing injured Carl Edwards.
-C Donzell Rush in El Nacional.
-SG Ryan Carroll in Regatas.

The Copa Argentina Final Four schedule:

9/26
7:30 PM Quimsa-Boca
10 PM Peñarol-Atenas

9/27
Both winners of day 1 against both losers.

9/28
The remaining games.

All 10 PM games will be televised.

[alermac]

Day 1:

Boca 80 - Quimsa 77 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/ca_qui_boc_cf_1.htm)

http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/anth.jpghttp://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/gaby%20y%20mik.jpg

Atenas 79 - Peñarol 75 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/ca_ate_pen_cf_2.htm)

http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/ate%20pe%C3%B1a%20kante.jpg

[alermac]

Day 2:

Atenas 92 - Quimsa 79 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/ca_ate_qui_cf_3.htm)

http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/ra.jpghttp://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/lololo.jpg

Peñarol 88 - Boca 80 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/ca_boc_pen_cf_4.htm)

http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012620-G.jpg
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/penca%20y%20tato.jpg

Libertad signed Ralph Holmes, a 29 year old 1,92 guard/forward who comes from the CBA league.

[alermac]

Atenas is the first champion of the season, by winning the Copa Argentina unbeaten.

Atenas 86 - Boca 73 Box (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/ca_boc_ate_cf_6.htm)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/atenas%20campeon%20copa.jpghttp://www.clarin.com/suplementos/especiales/2008/09/29/thumb/1691313-1.jpg

Quimsa 103 - Peñarol 98 Box (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/ca_pen_qui_cf_5.htm)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/ambos%20confer.jpghttp://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/maxe3.jpg

[alermac]

Opening game today: defending LNB champion Libertad face Copa Argentina champion Atenas, in the northern city of Formosa.

The zones are formed this way:

North Zone

Libertad (Sunchales, Santa Fe)
Atenas (Córdoba)
Quimsa (Santiago del Estero)
Olímpico (La Banda, Santiago del Estero)
Regatas (Corrientes)
Zanella-Ben Hur (Rafaela, Santa Fe)
Sionista (Paraná, Entre Ríos)
Obras (Buenos Aires City)

South Zone

Peñarol (Mar del Plata, Buenos Aires)
Quilmes (Mar del Plata, Buenos Aires)
El Nacional (Monte Hermoso, Buenos Aires)
Bahía Blanca-Estudiantes (Bahía Blanca, Buenos Aires)
Boca Juniors (Buenos Aires City)
Lanús (Greater Buenos Aires)
Independiente (Neuquén)
Gimnasia (Comodoro Rivadavia, Chubut)

[alermac]

Libertad 78 - Atenas 57 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_ate_1f_10.htm)

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2008/10/02/basquet/fotos/libertad.jpg

[alermac]

Friday's games:

Sionista 84 - Ben Hur 69 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_zan_1f_1x.htm)
Libertad 68 - Quimsa 73 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_qui_1f_2x.htm)
Regatas 58 - Obras 54 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_reg_obr_1f_3x.htm)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/kamme3.jpg
Olímpico 65 - Atenas 76 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_cic_ate_1f_4x.htm)
Boca 82 - Peñarol 78 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_pen_1f_5x.htm)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012645-00000696.jpg
Gimnasia 71 - Estudiantes 86 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_gim_bah_1f_6x.htm)
Quilmes 102 - Lanús 70 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_atl_1f_7x.htm)
El Nacional 66 - Independiente 68 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_el__ind_1f_8x.htm)

Sunday's games:

Sionista 84 - Obras 81 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_obr_1f_9.htm)
Regatas 71 - Ben Hur 72 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_reg_zan_1f_11x.htm)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/stanton%20vs%20bh.jpg
Olímpico 86 - Quimsa 81 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_cic_qui_1f_12.htm)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012655-00000708.jpg
Boca 100 - Lanús 74 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_atl_1f_13.htm)
Gimnasia 76 - Independiente 75 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_gim_ind_1f_14.htm)
El Nacional 57 - Estudiantes 79 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_el__bah_1f_16x.htm)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/dioni%20el%20nac2.jpg

[alermac]

Libertad cut SF Ralph Holmes, replaced him with Bryant Markson who comes from Israeli league.

[alermac]

Mar del Plata derby: Quilmes 75 - Peñarol 83
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/jack%20clasic.jpg

-Ralph Holmes, who was just cut by Libertad, now signed with El Nacional to replace injured Quincy Wadley.

-Olímpico cut Harry Good, who only played 1'40''.

-Federico Kammerichs of Regatas was elected as Player of the Week.

[rikhardur]

ARG - Kammerichs earns weekly honor in Argentina


CORRIENTES (Liga Nacional) - Federico Kammerichs of Argentina has been named Player of the Week in Argentina after solid performances in Regatas Corrientes' 1-1 start to the campaign.

The 2.03m forward had an impressive double-double in his team's 58-54 win over Obras Sanitarias.

Kammerichs poured in game-high 15 points and also hauled in 16 boards - twice as many as the Tyler Thomas Field of Obras Sanitarias, the contest's second-leading rebounder with eight.

In that game, Kammerichs and Co held Obras Sanitarias to just eight fourth-quarter points en route to victory.

In their second game, a 72-71 home setback against Zanella Ben Hur, Kammerichs 16 points and 11 rebounds.

Kammerichs was on the Argentina team this summer that won the bronze medal at the Olympics.

Peñarol defeated Quilmes 85-73 in the Mar del Plata derby that was staged this week at the Polideportivo Islas Malvinas.

In a very tight game, Peñarol had a 41-31 lead at half-time, only for Quilmes to fight back and trail 58-56 heading into the final quarter.

Sergio Hernandez’s Peñarol ended up pulling away at the end.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/28666/arti.html

[alermac]

Friday's games:

Ben Hur 63 - Libertad 68 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_zan_dep_1f_17.htm)
Quimsa 97 - Sionista 60 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_juv_1f_18.htm)
Obras 57 - Olímpico 79 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_cic_1f_19.htm)
Atenas 91 - Regatas 66 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_reg_1f_20.htm)
Peñarol 89 - Gimnasia 71 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_pen_gim_1f_21.htm)
Estudiantes 82 - Boca 74 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_bah_boc_1f_22.htm)
Lanús 84 - El Nacional 73 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_atl_el__1f_23.htm)
Independiente 79 - Quilmes 73

So far, the big surprise is Estudiantes. It was the last team to confirm its participation and sign its players, nobody expects them to play for much more than avoiding relegation, yet they begin with three wins, including one over Boca.

[alermac]

Lanús hired Sylbrin Robinson (PF, 2,00, 1980) to replace injured PF Wendell Gibson.

[alermac]

Sunday's games:

Ben Hur 80 - Olímpico 87 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_zan_cic_1f_25x.htm)
Quimsa 88 - Regatas 77 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_reg_1f_26x.htm)
Obras 77 - Libertad 81 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_dep_1f_27x.htm)
Atenas 96 - Sionista 77 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_dep_1f_27x.htm)
Peñarol 76 - El Nacional 71 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_pen_el__1f_29x.htm)
Estudiantes 89 - Quilmes 71 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_bah_qui_1f_30x.htm) (check Ed Nelson's boxscore...)
Lanús 76 - Gimnasia 69 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_atl_gim_1f_31x.htm)
Independiente 94 - Boca 78 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ind_boc_1f_32x.htm)

Ed Nelson named as weekend MVP.

[alermac]

Quimsa signed 33 year old PF DeMarco Johnson to replace C James Moore. But don't feel sorry for Moore; he replaced released C Donzell Rush at El Nacional, just a day later.

Quimsa also made a big signing: 19-year old PG Diego Gerbaudo, on loan from Real Madrid and starting PG from the U-19 NT in 2007.

[alermac]

El Nacional got its first win of the season by upsetting Boca (3 consecutive losses) 85-63, at home.

http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012715-00000764.jpg

[alermac]

Friday's games:

Ben Hur 84 - Quimsa 76 Box (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_zan_qui_1f_33.htm)
Libertad 93 - Sionista 65 Box (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_juv_1f_34.htm)
Obras 59 - Atenas 75 Box (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_ate_1f_35.htm)
Olímpico 57 - Regatas 69 Box (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_cic_reg_1f_36.htm) (check out Kammerichs' numbers)
Peñarol 78 - Estudiantes 86 Box (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_pen_bah_1f_37.htm)
Gimnasia 80 - Boca 64 Box (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_gim_boc_1f_38.htm)
Lanús 101 - Independiente 103 Box (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_atl_ind_1f_39.htm)
El Nacional 81 - Quilmes 73 Box (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_el__qui_1f_40.htm)

[alermac]

Sunday's games

Ben Hur 52 - Atenas 74 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_zan_ate_1f_41.htm)
Libertad 86 - Regatas 55 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_reg_1f_42.htm)
Obras 80 - Quimsa 83 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_qui_1f_43.htm) (another big game by PG Jonatan Treise)
Olímpico 99 - Sionista 96 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_cic_juv_1f_44.htm)
Peñarol 107 - Independiente 96 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_pen_ind_1f_45.htm) (Román González is weekly MVP)
Gimnasia 81 - Quilmes 65 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_gim_qui_1f_46.htm)
Lanús 74 - Estudiantes 64 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_atl_bah_1f_47.htm) (the leaders' first loss)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/lanus775.jpg

After 6 games:

NORTH
11 Libertad
11 Atenas
10 Olímpico
10 Quimsa
8 Ben Hur
8 Regatas (disappointing start)
8 Sionista
6 Obras

SOUTH
11 Estudiantes (unexpected leader)
10 Peñarol
10 Independiente
9 Gimnasia
9 Lanús
8 El Nacional
8 Boca (another underperforming candidate)
7 Quilmes

[Khalid80]

Yo Alermac!
Thanks for all the news concerning bball in Argentina!
I know this isn't the place to ask this but have u heard of an Argentinian coach by the name of "Facundo Petracci" ?. There is some news that he might be coaching one of our teams in Lebanon.

Thanks

[alermac]

It's fine. Petracci has coached mostly teams from second, third and regional divisions in Argentina. His debut was in Estudiantes de Bahía Blanca in the top league in 2000, but it was his only season. He also coached in Chile, and he's 35 years old.

[alermac]

-Quimsa released DeMarco Johnson after just two games. He eas in real bad condition.

-Quilmes replaced Tiras Wade with Carlos Dixon, who comes from Korean league.

-Ben Hur cut both its imports, James Life and Cedric McGinnis.

-Regatas beat Libertad 65-47

[Khalid80]

It's fine. Petracci has coached mostly teams from second, third and regional divisions in Argentina. His debut was in Estudiantes de Bahía Blanca in the top league in 2000, but it was his only season. He also coached in Chile, and he's 35 years old.

Thanks bro!
So how is the Argentinian League this season?
Which is the team that is the favorite to win the Championship this season? (Sorry for my ignorance but I don't know much about the Argentinian bball league and players other than those that are playing in the NBA (Ginobli, Scola, Nocioni, Delfino, Oberto, and Herman) ).
How come there's not alot of Argentinians that are posting here? (Is it because the language being used is English and not Spanish?)

[alermac]

Prior to the season there were six main favorites for the title: Libertad, Atenas, Quimsa, Boca Juniors, Peñarol and Regatas. So far, Libertad and Atenas are the only ones meeting the expectations, but there's a long way to go.

Friday's games:

Quimsa 94 - Ben Hur 65 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_zan_1f_49.htm)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012763-00000800.jpg

Sionista 56 - Libertad 78 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_dep_1f_50.htm)
Atenas 88 - Obras 76 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_obr_1f_51.htm)
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2008/10/25/basquet/fotos/pagina36_foto1.jpg
Atenas' Leo Gutiérrez & Obras' Tyler Field

Regatas 82 - Olímpico 69 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_reg_cic_1f_52.htm)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012764-00000806.jpg
Regatas' Alejandro Montecchia

Boca 81 - Gimnasia 73 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_gim_1f_54.htm)
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2008/10/25/basquet/fotos/pagina37_foto1.jpg
Boca's SF Edwards

Independiente 80 - Lanús 78 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ind_atl_1f_55.htm)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012762-00000798.jpg

Quilmes 82 - El Nacional 69 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_el__1f_56.htm)

[alermac]

Sunday:

Quimsa 72 - Obras 74 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_obr_1f_57cx.htm) (Obras' first win, a stunning game by Tyler Field)
Sionista 81 - Olímpico 78 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_cic_1f_58jz.htm)
Atenas 86 - Ben Hur 65 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_zan_1f_59by.htm)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/figue%20vs%20bh.jpg
Estudiantes 88 - Lanús 76 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_bah_atl_1f_61rv.htm) (another big game from Ed Nelson)
Boca 96 - El Nacional 90 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_el__1f_62gt.htm)
Independiente 84 - Peñarol 97 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ind_pen_1f_63hh.htm)
Quilmes 87 - Gimnasia 74 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_gim_1f_64lq.htm)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/gil%20vs%20gi.jpg

[alermac]

Tyler Field (Obras) was picked as Player of the Week
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/field562.jpg

Last night, Peñarol beat Estudiantes 79-78
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012778-00000827.jpg

[alermac]

Friday & Sunday:

Quimsa 56 - Atenas 69 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_ate_1f_65V.htm), Atenas 76 - Quimsa 59 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_qui_1f_73.htm) (Atenas is playing ridiculous defense these days, just check their opponents' scoring)

Sionista 72 - Regatas 76 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_reg_1f_66V.htm), Regatas 66 - Sionista 55 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_reg_juv_1f_75.htm)

Ben Hur 82 - Obras 83 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_zan_obr_1f_68V.htm), Obras 78 - Ben Hur 57 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_zan_1f_76.htm)

Estudiantes 90 - Independiente 72 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_bah_ind_1f_69V.htm), Independiente 97 - Estudiantes 63 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ind_bah_1f_77.htm) (Ed Nelson keeps posting big numbers)

Gimnasia 76 - El Nacional 85 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_gim_el__1f_71V.htm)

Quilmes 85 - Boca 78 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_boc_1f_79.htm)

Peñarol 82 - Lanús 74 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_pen_atl_1f_72V.htm), Lanús 72 - Peñarol 81 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_atl_pen_1f_80.htm) (Peñarol now leads the South)

Libertad suspended its games vs Olímpico due to its participation in the South American Championship, just won by Uruguay's Biguá.

[alermac]

Yesterday:

Lanús 69 - Boca 87 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_atl_boc_1f_95N.htm)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/legaria%20de%20endelli.jpg
Ronald Ramón & Raymundo Legaria

Libertad 75 - Olímpico 69 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_cic_1f_67o.htm)

[alermac]

Friday:

Ben Hur 77 - Sionista 81 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_zan_juv_1f_81.htm)
Quimsa 74 - Libertad 64 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_dep_1f_82.htm)
Obras 63 - Regatas 79 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_reg_1f_83.htm)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/puma%20en%20lanus.jpghttp://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2008/11/08/basquet/fotos/1718513-1.jpg
Regatas' Montecchia and Kammerichs

Atenas 63 - Olímpico 49 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_cic_1f_84.htm)
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2008/11/08/basquet/fotos/1718504-1.jpg
Atenas' Leo Gutiérrez

Peñarol 95 - Quilmes 102
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/dixon%20el%20popular.jpg

Estudiantes 78 - Gimnasia 85 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_bah_gim_1f_86.htm)
Independiente 72 - El Nacional 75 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ind_el__1f_88.htm)

[alermac]

Sunday

Ben Hur 80 - Regatas 79 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_zan_reg_1f_89.htm) (good debut by Durelle Brown)
Quimsa 91 - Olímpico 71 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_cic_1f_90.htm)
Obras 79 - Sionista 67 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_juv_1f_91.htm) (Big game by Tyler Field)
Atenas 64 - Libertad 59 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_dep_1f_92.htm)
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2008/11/10/basquet/fotos/1719623-1.jpg
Atenas' Andre Laws

Estudiantes 81 - El Nacional 84 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_bah_el__1f_94.htm)
Lanús 89 - Quilmes 75 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_atl_qui_1f_87.htm)
Independiente 64 - Gimnasia 69 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ind_gim_1f_96.htm)
Peñarol 72 - Boca 61
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2008/11/10/basquet/fotos/1719632-1.jpg
Peñarol's Román González

[alermac]

Tuesday's pending games:

Olímpico 84 - Libertad 79 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_cic_dep_1f_74.htm)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012865-00000902.jpg

Boca 75 - Quilmes 82 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_qui_1f_70.htm) (Juan Espil long-delayed comeback to LNB)
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/11/12/fotos/1720971-1.jpg

Boca finally decided to cut C Alejandro Alloati instead of SG Marcos Casini, who originally was Espil's replacement.

[alermac]

Wednesday:

Gimnasia 80 - Peñarol 73 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_gim_pen_1f_101.htm)

Lanús signed C Alejandro Alloatti to replace injured Andrés Rodríguez.

[alermac]

Friday:

Libertad 87 - Ben Hur 65 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_zan_1f_97.htm)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012885-00000910.jpg

Sionista 100 - Quimsa 90 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_qui_1f_98.htm)
Olímpico 76 - Obras 68 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_cic_obr_1f_99.htm)
Regatas 77 - Atenas 82 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_reg_ate_1f_100.htm) (that's 12 wins in a row!)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/bebe%20y%20leo.bmp
Gutiérrez & López

Boca 77 - Estudiantes 79 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_bah_1f_102.htm) (Espil's 20 points show he's really back)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/ed%20nel33.jpg
Ed Nelson

El Nacional 90 - Lanús 84 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_el__atl_1f_103.htm)
Quilmes 75 - Independiente 68 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_ind_1f_104.htm)

Peñarol got penalized with a 4 point discount, and Quilmes 3, due to fan clashes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6rKmGbNKn4) in last week's Mar del Plata derby. That puts Quilmes out of contention for the Super 8 Tournament, while Peñarol has little chance of qualifying, with one game to go.

NORTH:

25 Atenas
21 Libertad
20 Quimsa
20 Regatas
19 Olímpico
18 Sionista
17 Obras
16 Ben Hur

SOUTH:

21 Estudiantes
20 El Nacional
19 Gimnasia
19 Independiente
18 Peñarol
18 Boca
17 Quilmes
17 Lanús

[alermac]

After sunday's games, Super 8 tournament has its 8 teams:

Atenas, Libetad, Regatas, (North's top 3) Estudiantes, El Nacional, Gimnasia (south's top 3), Quimsa (the best fourth-placed team) and Obras (the host team)

-James Jackson signed for Regatas. The weird thing is he had arrived to replace Jimmy Boston in Gimnasia a few days ago, but suddenly Boston had a couple of big games and management decided to keep him.

[alermac]

Estudiantes signed Tarrie Monroe, American 30-year old PF and 2,02 tall, as its third import.

[alermac]

Beginning of 2nd Phase: all teams lose half their points, now it's a 30-game round robin of all 16 teams.

Wednesday:

Estudiantes 74 - Independiente 87
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012914-00000938.jpg
Independiente's Cedric Moodie

Friday:

Independiente 90 - Estudiantes 80 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ind_bah_2f_128.htm) (it looks as if there only were 5 good players on the court)
Libertad 86 - Olímpico 69 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_cic_2f_113.htm)
Boca 79 - Quilmes 74 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_qui_2f_114.htm)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/ray%20y%20salles.jpg
Legaria marked by Salles

Quimsa 76 - Atenas 91 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_ate_2f_115.htm) (14 wins in a row! LNB record is 17)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012922-00000947.jpg
Mázzaro marked by Laws

Peñarol 68 - Lanús 65 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_pen_atl_2f_116.htm) (Gibson is back after the injury from opening game)
Sionista 78 - Regatas 67 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_reg_2f_117.htm)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012925-00000949.jpg
Kammerichs, Spillers. Robinson, Patton

Ben Hur 86 - Obras 69 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_zan_obr_2f_119.htm)
Gimnasia 92 - El Nacional 75

[alermac]

Sunday's games:

Atenas 61 - Quimsa 54 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_qui_2f_123.htm) (15 consecutive wins, another defensive display)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012931-00000958.jpg
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/laws%20vs%20gabo.jpg

Lanús 60 - Peñarol 68 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_atl_pen_2f_124.htm)
http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/rei%20y%20gib.jpg

Quilmes 98 - Boca 82 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_boc_2f_122.htm)
Olímpico 74 - Libertad 59 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_cic_dep_2f_121.htm)
Regatas 68 - Sionista 65 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_reg_juv_2f_125.htm)
El Nacional 91 - Gimnasia 93 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_el__gim_2f_126.htm)
Obras 87 - Ben Hur 69 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_zan_1f_76.htm)

Standings:

17,5 Atenas
14,5 Independiente
14,5 Gimnasia
14,5 Libertad
14 Peñarol
14 Regatas
13,5 Olímpico
13 Estudiantes
12,5 Quilmes
12,5 Sionista
12,5 Boca
12,5 El Nacional
12,5 Quimsa
12 Obras
11,5 Ben Hur
11 Lanús

[Jokinen]

Quimsa needs to do something about their imports... to have three import players to get just 9 pts among all three it just makes no sense...

[alermac]

Super 8 quarterfinals:

Obras 72 - El Nacional 71 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_el__s8_2.htm)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012946-00000972.jpg

Gimnasia 69 - Libertad 61 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_gim_s8_1.htm)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012945-00000971.jpg

[alermac]

Thursday's quarterfinals:

Atenas 77 - Quimsa 66 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_qui_s8_3.htm)
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/11/28/fotos/1731337-1.jpg

Regatas 70 - Estudiantes 59 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_bah_reg_s8_4.htm)
http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012954-00000977.jpg

[alermac]

Semifinals:

Regatas 72 - Gimnasia 65 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_gim_reg_s8_5.htm)
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2008/11/28/basquet/thumb/regatas1.jpg

Obras 66 - Atenas 64 Stats (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_ate_s8_6.htm)
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2008/11/28/basquet/thumb/atenas1.jpg

[alermac]

Quimsa needs to do something about their imports... to have three import players to get just 9 pts among all three it just makes no sense...
Said and done: Quimsa hired SG Kenny Satterfield and C Nakiea Miller to replace SF Erron Maxey and PF Larry Smith

[alermac]

http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Noticias/00012969-00000992.jpg
Obras 62 - Regatas 68 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_reg_s8_7.htm)
http://www.clarin.com/suplementos/especiales/2008/12/01/fotos/1732914-5.jpg

Regatas was crowned as Super 8 Champions; Federico Kammerichs won the MVP; and, since Regatas was already qualified for Liga Sudamericana 2009, Obras got the spot.

[alermac]

Atenas got its 16th consecutive LNB win yesterday against Libertad, 75-65 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_dep_2f_143.htm)

http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/kante%20lib2.jpg
Djibril Kante

[alermac]

A few highlights of last weekend:

-Atenas got its 17th consecutive win, without PF Leo Gutiérrez and mostly without PG Bruno Lábaque, both injured.
-Shockingly, Gimnasia and Independiente are 2nd and 3rd.
-Even more shockingly, Boca Juniors fell to the last position on the standings. Coach Oscar Sánchez quit.

[alermac]

Atenas' run ended at 17. Overtime loss 88-82 at Peñarol, the other club that holds the consecutive wins record.
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2008/12/11/basquet/fotos/basquet.jpg

[Jokinen]

Atenas' run ended at 17. Overtime loss 88-82 at Peñarol, the other club that holds the consecutive wins record.
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2008/12/11/basquet/fotos/basquet.jpg


That was quite a good game, unfortunately (for me:D ) Atenas lost, but the bright side is that it would be hard for Atenas to loose a playoffs series since Atenas almost wins it without Leo Gutierrez, Labaque playing injured and with kante and Osella watching the game from the bench both fouled out.

[alermac]

It seems it finally is the end of the line for Ben Hur; due to lack of funding, some players have left the team (SG Patricio Rodríguez, PG Mariano Castets, PF Durelle Brown) and also the coach; they will complete this season but the future is really uncertain after this, for a club that won everything a few years ago.

[alermac]

Libertad rocked the market: signed Esteban Batista, the great Uruguayan NT center who played for Atlanta Hawks and Maccabi Tel Aviv.

Also: today will begin the All-Star game, with the Legends Game between retired stars of Argentina and Brazil.

[alermac]

Last news: Obras signed Dominican & former NBA Luis Felipe López, now 32 years old.

[alermac]

another great Latin American player joins the National League: Panamenian G/F J.R. Pinnock signed in Libertad, where he'll replace F/C Jason Osborne.

[alermac]

End of the regular season:

1) Atenas 63.5
2) Peñarol 63
3) Libertad 59.5
4) Gimnasia 58.5

5) Sionista 58.5
6) Olímpico 57.5
7) Estudiantes 57
8) Boca 56.5 (recovered greatly after a coach and import change)
9) Independiente 55.5 (fell much on these last weeks)
10) Regatas 55
11) Quimsa 53.5
12) Quilmes 52.5

13) Obras 52
14) El Nacional 51.5
15) Lanús 49
16) Ben Hur 41.5 (completely derailed)

Top 4 teams advance to quarterfinals. Bottom 4 teams must win a playoff to avoid relegation. Middle 8 teams play eighth-finals.

[alermac]

Playoffs!

(5) Sionista 79 - (12) Quilmes 57 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_qui_rec_353.htm)
(6) Olímpico 82 - (11) Quimsa 73 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_cic_qui_rec_354.htm)
(7) Estudiantes 97 - (10) Regatas 107 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_bah_reg_rec_355.htm) (double-doubles for both Kammerichs and Montecchia)
(8) Boca 90 - (9) Independiente 76 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_ind_rec_356.htm)

Relegation playoffs:

(13) Obras 89 - (16) Ben Hur 61 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_zan_perm_361.htm)

[mvblair]

(7) Estudiantes 97 - (10) Regatas 107 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_bah_reg_rec_355.htm) (double-doubles for both Kammerichs and Montecchia) Good, good, good. I've been a big fan of Montecchia for a long time. It's good to see him playing well in the Play-Offs.

Relegation playoffs:

(13) Obras 89 - (16) Ben Hur 61 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_zan_perm_361.htm) Alermac, does this mean there is a chance that Ben Hur will be relegated to the second division?

[alermac]

Games 2:

Sionista 92 - Quilmes 81 (2-0) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_qui_rec_357.htm) (Cantero nearly gets the second triple-double ever)
Olímpico 72 - Quimsa 65 (2-0) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_cic_qui_rec_358.htm)
Estudiantes 88 - Regatas 104 (0-2) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_bah_reg_rec_359.htm) (another big game from Kammerichs, and now also Tintorelli)
Boca 68 - Independiente 94 (1-1) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_ind_rec_360.htm) (The three imports did it all for the winners)


Alermac, does this mean there is a chance that Ben Hur will be relegated to the second division?
Relegation:
Obras 80 - Ben Hur 69 (2-0) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_obr_zan_perm_363.htm)
Basically, this means Ben Hur will be relegated with one more loss. It's the story of another LNB club that succeeds and then falls apart in a few years.

Relegation game 1:
El Nacional 88 - Lanús 73 (1-0) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_el__atl_perm_362.htm)


PS: here (http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/acumulados/tablas_a0809.php?rubro=1&Submit=VER) you can check out the leaders of all stats categories.

[rikhardur]

ARG – Regatas storm into Quarter-Final showdown with Penarol

BUENOS AIRES (Liga Nacional) - Regatas de Corrientes completed a 3-0 sweep of Estudiantes de Bahia Blanca too book a place in Argentina’s Liga Nacional Quarter-Finals.

Juventud Sionista, Ciclista Olimpico and Boca Juniors are just one win away from joining them in the last eight.

Regatas, a side that competed in the FIBA Americas League and the Liga Sudamericana, beat Estudiantes 87-76 in Game 3 of their Reclassification Series.

Sebastian Acosta poured in 18 points, Ramzee Stanton 16 and Argentina international Federico Kammerichs 13 for Regatas.

Next up is a showdown with Penarol, who finished second during the regular season and earned a direct ticket to the Quarter-Finals.

Sionista lost their Game 3 to Quilmes Mar del Plata 89-73 but still lead the Reclassification Series 2-1.

Jazwin Cowan led the way for Quilmes with 22 points.

The winner of that tie will face Gimnasia in the last eight.

Quimsa, the runners-up in the Liga Sudamericana, edged Ciclista 75-74 and now trail in that showdown 2-1.

Julio Mazzaro scored 21 points and Jermaine Walker 18 for Quimsa.

Libertad await the side that prevails in that tie.

Boca moved a step closer to facing regular-season winners Atenas in the last eight after winning their Game 3 against Independiente 81-72. Juan Espil paced Boca winners with 18 points.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/29718/arti.html

[alermac]

that FIBA article has one fact wrong: Regatas' quarterfinal opponent is not decided yet. The article assumes the winner of the 7th-10th series would face the 2nd seed (Peñarol) as in any normal league, but LNB reassigns the lower four seeds of the quarterfinals according to its regular season position.

That means, if Regatas (10th seed) winds up having the lowest seed of all four eight-finals winners, Regatas will become the 8th seed and face the 1st (Atenas). The other winners would be ranked 5th, 6th and 7th accordingly.

[alermac]

friday:

Quilmes 74 (1) - Sionista 77 (3) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_qui_juv_rec_369.htm)
Quimsa 72 (1) - Olímpico 75 (3)
Independiente 95 (2) - Boca 78 (2) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ind_boc_rec_372.htm)

Sionista will face Gimnasia; Olímpico will face Libertad, Regatas will face Atenas; the winner of Independiente/Boca will face Peñarol.

Ben Hur 62 (0) - Obras 65 (3) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_zan_obr_perm_373.htm)
And that is the end for the BH, dead last and relegated to TNA (if they don't disappear) after winning all over South America.

[alermac]

Game 5:

Boca 94 (3) - Independiente 87 (2) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_ind_rec_377.htm) / Overtime
Juan Espil turned into the hero with 31 pts and 7 assists. Boca qualified to quarterfinals and will face Peñarol.

[rikhardur]

ARG – Vintage Espil takes Boca into last eight in Argentina

BUENOS AIRES (Liga Nacional) – Former Argentina sharpshooter Juan Espil rolled back the years and fired Boca Juniors to victory in the deciding fifth game of their re-classification series with Independiente in the Liga Nacional.

Espil, 41, poured in 31 points in a 94-87 overtime triumph.

Boca’s reward is a quarter-final showdown with Penarol.

Carl Edwards contributed 22 points in the triumph.

In the other best-of-five play-off quarter-finals that tip off on April 3, regular-season winners Atenas face Regatas de Corrientes, Gimnasia y Esgrima de Comodoro take on Juventud Sionista and Libertad square off against Olímpico.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/29747/arti.html

[rikhardur]

ARG - Lanus stay in Argentina top flight

BUENOS AIRES (Liga Nacional) - Atletico Lanus avoided the drop from the Liga Nacional in Argentina after defeating El Nacional de Monte Hermoso 88-72.

The triumph gave Lanus a 3-1 win in the relegation series.

Lanus preserved their top-flight status and dropped El Nacional to the TNA after two years in the first division.

Lanus caught fire in the third quarter, drilling six three-balls for a 66-53 advantage.

The Buenos Aires outfit then held on over the last 10 minutes.

Fernando Funes scored 22 points for the winners with Diego Prego contributing 18 and Terry Taylor 16.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/29757/arti.html

[alermac]

Quarterfinals game 1:

(1) Atenas 91 - (10) Regatas 69
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2009/04/04/polideportivo/fotos/1807965-1.jpg

(2) Peñarol 98 - (8) Boca 91 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_pen_boc_cuar_381.htm)
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2009/04/04/polideportivo/fotos/1807985-1.jpg

(3) Libertad 63 - (6) Olímpico 52 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_cic_cuar_379.htm) Esteban Batista's double-double
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2009/04/04/polideportivo/fotos/1807986-1.jpg

(4) Gimnasia 72 - (5) Sionista 77 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_gim_juv_cuar_380.htm) Impressive win, even without PG Cantero

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2009/04/04/polideportivo/fotos/1807987-1.jpg

[alermac]

Sunday, Games 2:

Atenas 77 (2) - Regatas 67 (0) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_reg_cuar_382.htm)
Peñarol 104 (1) - Boca 111 (1) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_pen_boc_cuar_385.htm) Espil has definitely caught serious fire lately.
Libertad 78 (2) - Olímpico 75 (0) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_cic_cuar_383.htm)
Gimnasia 96 (1) - Sionista 70 (1) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_gim_juv_cuar_384.htm)

[alermac]

The All-LNB Team was named yesterday:

http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/images/upload/premios%20quinteto.jpg

1 PG Juan Pablo Cantero (Sionista)
13.4 pts - 4.4 as - 3.1 rebs - 1.1 stls - 85% 1P - 43% 3P - 52% 2P - 32 mins
2 SG David Jackson (Peñarol - MVP)
19 pts - 3.7 rebs - 1.7 as - 1.4 stls - 89% 1P - 50% 3P - 55% 2P - 34 mins
3 SF Juan Manuel Locatelli (Atenas)
10 pts - 2.8 rebs - 1.1 as - 70% 1P - 40% 3P - 57% 2P - 25 mins
4 PF Federico Kammerichs (Regatas)
13.1 pts - 10.7 rebs - 1.4 as - 1.4 blks - 53% 1P - 31% 3P - 57% 2P - 26 mins
5 C Román González (Peñarol - National MVP)
15.3 pts - 6.3 rebs - 1.7 as - 1 blk - 70% 1P - 29% 3P - 59% 2P - 27 mins

Other awards:
Rookie: 31-year-old Germán Sciutto (SG - Gimnasia)
6th Man: Juan Pablo Figueroa (PG - Atenas)
Most Improved: Juan Pablo Cantero


MVP of TNA (Second Division)
PF Alex Carcamo (San Martín Corrientes), from Belize
20.2 pts - 9.3 rebs - 1.8 as - 80% 1P - 59% 2P - 33 mins


You can check every LNB player's stats here (http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/acumulados/jugadores_a0809.php?eq=x&et=COMPLETO&Submit=Buscar&ri=TODOS) or here (http://www.a-d-c.com.ar/acumulados/porequipos_a0809.php)

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6th Man: Juan Pablo Figueroa (PG - Atenas)
That's even though Figueroa was on the starting lineup on 67% of his team's matches:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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ARG – Scoring machine Espil helps Boca level quarter-final tie with Penarol

BUENOS AIRES (Liga Nacional) - Evergreen Juan Espil is proving to be a match-winner for Boca Juniors in the Liga Nacional play-offs.

After leading Boca past Independiente in the re-classification series and into quarter-finals, the 41-year-old Espil lifted his club to a 111-104 triumph over Penarol in Game 2 of their last eight showdown.

Espil, a former Argentina national team guard, erupted for a game-high 29 points in the win that has leveled the series at 1-1.

He drilled four three-pointers and also made all nine of his free-throws. Derrick Alston and Carl Edwards poured in 26 and 25 points, respectively, for Boca.

Argentina national team center Roman Gonzalez had 22 points in defeat.

Gimnasia bounced back from their 77-72 defeat to Sionista by thrashing them in Game 2 96-70.

Nicolas de los Santos led a balanced Gimnasia scoring attack with 16 points.

Atenas, the regular-season winners, are in command of their tie with Regatas de Corrientes after rolling to a 77-67 win in Game 2.

Andre Laws scored 15 points for the winning side.

Libertad Sunchales scraped a 78-75 triumph over Ciclista Olimpico and hold a 2-0 advantage in that series.

Danilo Pinnock's 23 points and Uruguay international Esteban Batista's 17 fired Libertad to victory.

Each Game 3 in the four quarter-finals will be played on Saturday.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/29802/arti.html

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Libertad is the first semifinalist:

Olímpico 76 (0) - Libertad 79 (3) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_cic_dep_cuar_387.htm) check Batista's 19 rebounds

[Jokinen]

Libertad is the first semifinalist:

Olímpico 76 (0) - Libertad 79 (3) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_cic_dep_cuar_387.htm) check Batista's 19 rebounds

This semifinals should be great, it doesn't matter against which team, either Boca or Peñarol will make this a great show

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Saturday's Game 3's:

Regatas 80 (1) - Atenas 74 (2) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_reg_ate_cuar_386.htm) Kammerichs with yet another double-double. Atenas curiously shot more threes than twos.

Sionista 86 (2) - Gimnasia 57 (1) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_gim_cuar_388.htm) No further comment necessary.


This semifinals should be great, it doesn't matter against which team, either Boca or Peñarol will make this a great show
I agree. Libertad is, in my opinion and even though Pelussi's injury, the best team right now since the arrivals of Batista and Pinnock. But Peñarol has been the best team for all the second phase, and Boca has found its groove right on time.

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Sionista 96 - Gimnasia 94 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_gim_cuar_392.htm) Sionista won series 3-1 and awaits for their semifinals rival.

Regatas 80 - Atenas 79 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_reg_ate_cuar_390.htm) Series tied 2-2

Boca 82 - Peñarol 86 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_pen_cuar_389.htm) Peñarol up 2-1

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Boca 84 - Peñarol 85 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_boc_pen_cuar_393.htm) Peñarol won series 3-1; Espil missed a layup, and a half-court three attempt by Aguirre almost gave Boca the win.

Peñarol will face Libertad on the semis.

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ARG – Libertad, Sionista await winners of other quarter-final clashes in Argentina

BUENOS AIRES (Liga Nacional) - Libertad swept Olimpico 3-0 and Sionista defeated Gimnasia 3-1 to reach the Liga Nacional play-off semi-finals.

Now the question is which teams will join them.

Regular-season champions Atenas are in a 2-2 dogfight with Regatas de Corrientes, a side that played in this year’s FIBA Americas League and Liga Sudamericana. Penarol, another outfit that played in the FIBA Americas League, lead their quarter-final showdown with Boja Juniors 2-1.

Argentina international Federico Kammerichs had 18 points and Roberto Lopez 17 for Regatas in their 80-79 Game 4 triumph over Atenas.

Penarol, coached by Argentina national team boss Sergio Hernandez, overcame a game-high 23 points from Juan Espil of Boca to prevail in Game 3, 86-82.

The Liga Nacional play-offs resume on Friday.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/29873/arti.html

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Atenas crushed Regatas 93-69 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_reg_cuar_394.htm) with a great second half. Djbril Kante played a great game, and Atenas now is the semifinalist.

[Jokinen]

Atenas crushed Regatas 93-69 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_reg_cuar_394.htm) with a great second half. Djbril Kante played a great game, and Atenas now is the semifinalist.


That was one of the best games i have ever attended to, the atmosphere was wild, the game was really even until late thrid quarter when Atenas just crushed Regatas, Juan Pablo Figueroa played probably his best game in his career while both imports kante and Andre Laws were also key for Atenas victory.

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Semifinals, game 1:

Atenas 80 - Sionista 69
Peñarol 88 - Libertad 50:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Jokinen]

Semifinals, game 1:


Peñarol 88 - Libertad 50:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

:eek: :eek: Oh that was unexpected!!

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:eek: :eek: Oh that was unexpected!!
It's hard to say anything when the game begins with a 18-2 run... it was 65-21 at one point.

[Jokinen]

It's hard to say anything when the game begins with a 18-2 run... it was 65-21 at one point.

44 pts!! :eek:, I couldn't watch the game since I was at Carlos Cerutti stadium watching Atenas - Sionista, but as i see the stats, what the hell happened???.

What a odd game...

Roman Gonzalez (Peñ) 21 pts
Esteban Batista (LIB) 3 pts??

a kid like Sebastian Vega (PEÑ) 15 pts 7 ast, 5 rbs
International Danilo Pinnok (LIB) 9 pts 4 rbs 3 to

I know it means nothing and probably Libertad will fight back but surprising stats

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Game 2:

Peñarol 72 - Libertad 62 (2-0) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_pen_dep_semi_398.htm)
Atenas 78 - Sionista 67 (2-0) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_juv_semi_397.htm)

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ARG – Atenas, Penarol heading towards showdown for Argentina title

BUENOS AIRES (Liga Nacional) - Former Argentina coach Ruben Magnano and current national team boss Sergio Hernandez are close to squaring off against each other in a Liga Nacional title showdown.

Ruben Magnano's Atenas beat Sionista 78-67 to claim a 2-0 lead in their play-off semi-final with Andre Laws, Juan Locatelli and Juan Figueroa each scoring 11 points.

Atenas are finding it much easier against Sionista than when they went up against Regatas Corrientes, who took Magnano's team to a Game 5 decider in their first-round tie.

Magnano was the Argentina coach on the sidelines during their gold-medal win at the 2004 Olympics in Athens.

Hernandez is at the helm of Penarol and his men hold a 2-0 advantage over Libertad following a 72-62 Game 2 triumph over Libertad.

Argentina center Roman Gonzalez and Fernando Malara each poured in 16 points for Penarol while Libertad got 20 points from Danilo Pinnock and 13 from Sebastian Ginobili.

Gonzalez also finished with 10 rebounds for Penarol.

Each Game 3 is due to be played on Wednesday evening.
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/p/newsid/29997/arti.html

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Third games:

Sionista 79 - Atenas 85 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_juv_ate_semi_399.htm) (Atenas won series 3-0 and is now a finalist)
Libertad 78 (1) - Peñarol 74 (2) (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_pen_semi_400.htm)

[Jokinen]

Well Atenas gets back to a final after almost six long years, for all of you that might read this thread and don't know much about the Argentinian league, let me explain you that Atenas de Cordoba has been extremely dominant in our league since its creation. Atenas has played all 25 editions of the LNB and now is searching for its ninth Championship, this is going to be the 14 final and has reached semifinals in 22 of the 25 national leagues.

This are some of the best players of Atenas history:

Marcelo Milanesio, Hector Campana, Diego Osella, Fabricio Oberto, Walter Herrmann, Leo Gutierrez, Leandro Palladino, Roberto Gabini, Marias Lezcano, Bruno Labaque, Diego Lo grippo, Patricio Pratto, Andres Pellusi among others.

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Well, Peñarol beat Libertad 72-57 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_dep_pen_semi_402.htm) on the road, closed the series at 3-1 and will face Atenas on the Finals. The sudden absence of JR Pinnock, Libertad's SF who departed from the team after Game 3, proved too much to handle.

Also, Atenas confirmed they won't host the Finals at their usual stadium Carlos Cerutti, but at the Orfeo Superdome which is almost 3 times as big. Great news.

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With the Finals set to begin Wednesday, they are already being previewed as the most promising series in years, because of many interest points:

-Olympic medalists PF Leo Gutiérrez (http://deportac.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/gutierrez-vs-sionista.jpg) (Atenas) and C Román González (http://www.ebpi.com.ar/Fotos/LNB%202008-09/penarol/20090206_pen-benhur/DSC01793_roman600.jpg) (Peñarol) on the court; and fellow medalists Rubén Magnano and Sergio Hernández as coaches.

-Great imports such as SG David Jackson (http://www.lanacion.com.ar/anexos/fotos/76/965976.jpg), PF Byron Johnson (http://www.elpatagonico.net/upload/imgart/23081) (Peñarol) and C Djibril Kanté (http://www.infoligafotos.com.ar/08-09/3-2/ate-oli1.jpg) (Atenas).

-Other storied players with NT and European experience like PG Bruno Lábaque (http://www.infoligafotos.com.ar/08-09/25-2/ate-ind1.jpg) and C Diego Osella (http://www.infoligafotos.com.ar/08-09/4-2/ate-lib.jpg) (Atenas).

-Promising younger ones, like PG Juan Pablo Figueroa (http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Fotos/0065-00000623.jpg), SG Bruno Barovero (Atenas), PF Alejandro Diez (http://www.pickandroll.com.ar/Grafica/Fotos/0075-00000696.jpg), SF Sebastián Vega (http://www.marcadeportiva.com/img/notas/img_6753.jpg) and PG Facundo Campazzo (http://www.marcadeportiva.com/img/notas/th_img_6870.jpg) (Peñarol)

-The best two indoor stadiums in the Nation: the Orfeo (http://www.basquetplus.com/fotos/foto_2428.jpg) Superdome (http://www.lavoz.com.ar/anexos/imagen/09/133624.JPG) and the Polideportivo (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/2929569551_3154b0c0de.jpg?v=0) Islas Malvinas (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Polideportivo-partido-1.jpg/300px-Polideportivo-partido-1.jpg). Both hosted the U21 Worlds in 2005 (http://www.lavoz.com.ar/anexos/imagen/09/128620.JPG)

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game 1, played in front of a LNB-record crowd of 9500:

Atenas 69 - Peñarol 61 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_pen_final_403.htm), a very close game whose gap Atenas could only expand at the last seconds.

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/05/06/um/fotos/leogutierrez.jpg
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/05/06/um/fotos/romangonzalez.jpg

[Jokinen]

Ooohhhh lord!, i don't know how many games like this can my heart resist..., was a very physical game, a lot of defense and played in a beautiful stadium.

[alermac]

It's amazing how much has the press recognized Figueroa as the player of the game, thanks to his defensive work.

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I forgot to post games 2 (in Córdoba) and 3 (in Mar del Plata)

2: Atenas 75 - Peñarol 85 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_pen_final_404x.htm)
3: Peñarol 74 - Atenas 76 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_pen_ate_final_405.htm)

[Jokinen]

It's amazing how much has the press recognized Figueroa as the player of the game, thanks to his defensive work.

Jajaj yeah!, he finally is getting famous :D... his defense over David Jackson has been awesome so far.

[alermac]

Peñarol beat Atenas 77-68 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_pen_ate_final_406.htm) at home on Game 4. Series now tied 2-2, Game 5 to be played on Tuesday in Córdoba.

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/05/13/um/fotos/romanleokante.jpg
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/05/13/um/fotos/romankante.jpg
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/05/13/um/fotos/tatorodriguez.jpg
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/05/13/um/fotos/jacksonpeniarol.jpg

[Jokinen]

What a even series, It seems it's going to be 7 games

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Unbelievable Game 6: Atenas won 79-76 (http://online.a-d-c.com.ar/online/a_ate_pen_final_407.htm) in overtime (70-70), but Peñarol blew so many chances to win it...

In the last minute of regulation, with the game tied:
-Byron Johnson intercepted a pass an ran the break, but he missed the layup and the rebound slipped of Vega's hands.
-Jackson stole another ball, but Figueroa aborted the fastbreak by intercepting a HUGE pass.
-with 3 seconds to go, Vega missed two free throws.

And, with 18 seconds to go on overtime and the game tied at 76, Jackson missed a free throw. Then Laws scored a 2+1 with 4 seconds to go, and Rodríguez nearly scores the halfcourt shot to tie.

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/05/19/um/fotos/atenas_quinto.jpg

[Jokinen]

I think that game 5 was one of the most stressful moments in my life!!! :D, now I believe is the BIG chance for Atenas to close it at Mar del Plata as Peñarol will feel all the pressure now that Atenas is match point.

PS: Great pic of Andre Laws!!!

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http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2009/05/25/basquet/fotos/ln.jpg

Atenas won 91-83 in Mar del Plata and won the LNB Finals 4-2. The champions took a 19-4 early lead; Peñarol cut back to 26-28, but after that Atenas rtretched their lead to 18 points. Peñarol managed to reduce it to 83-88 with 1:30 to go, but a 3P by Andre Laws (elected Finals MVP) closed the game.

[Jokinen]

YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DALE CAMPEOOOONNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!! DALE CAMPEROOOONN!!!!!! DALE CAMPEOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!! DALE CAMPEON!!!!!!!!!!!

What a season!!!! Atenas wins its 9 title in 25 leagues played... Sixth LBN title for both Leo Gutierrez and Diego Osella and fifth for Bruno Labaque.

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A couple last notes on this season:

1) The playing style has definitely become defensive and rough. Only one player averaged above 20 ppg, and only twelve scored above 15 ppg (http://190.210.33.29/liga/tablas_a0809.php?rubro=1&Submit=VER). And the roughest team with the best defense wound up winning.

2) Atenas had incredibly balanced scoring all year long (no player averaged above 14 ppg) (http://190.210.33.29/liga/porequipos_a0809.php?eq=ATENAS&Submit=Buscar). Peñarol was the exact opposite, with Jackson and González carrying the offense.

3) La Unión of Formosa and Unión of Sunchales earned their promotions to LNB. La Unión returns after playing one LNB season three years ago, and Unión gives a second LNB team to the city of Sunchales, only 20.000 big. I don't think there has ever been such a situation anywhere in the world.


And the market news for next season are already many and important.
-Román González left Peñarol for Quimsa.
-Luis Cequeira left Regatas for Sionista.
-Alejandro Zilli left Libertad for Sionista.
-Gabriel Fernández left Boca for Obras.
-Bruno Lábaque will leave Atenas to play in a Buenos Aires club (possibly Obras), for family reasons.
-Regatas brought back two of their 2008 Liga Sudamericana champions: Agustín Carabajal and Juan Manuel Rivero.