PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. II)

[donno]

if he will be a top 1 to 3 pick, he will get P175000/month in his first year, then P250000/month in his second year, and then P375000 in his third year.

isn't the max salary set at Php 350,000.00/month?

[durden_tyler]

isn't the max salary set at Php 350,000.00/month?

i believe that was eons ago :D


Lutz is a part time starter for gilas depends on who they face. he has playing time. and if he didnt withdraw, the salary he'll get in pba will be a rookie contract and its 150k a month compare to the offer of gilas 250k a month.

As mentioned 175K is the starting salary and as per Tiago it has a mark-up each year so it compensates for it if he's targeting the Gilas offer of 250K (Assuming he's getting such)

Also, lost in all this is the fact that if he pulls out from the Draft, a player should re-apply again in the following year or next-- meaning after getting 250K from Gilas, he's going back to 175 when he enters (unless they change the salary scale for rookies)

Long-term, if you are thinking about finances the first priority really is the PBA since contracts secure your future.

[killmebusy]

i still don't get it...getting drafted in the pba shouldn't be a problem if the player really wants to play in the national team then he should be allowed as long as it doesn't interfere with the pba season. dba nga the reason they changed the format of the pba season is to accomodate the usual schedules of the major international tournaments? usa, spain, argentina, china, germany, serbia...you know, the world powerhouses...do not have a fixed national team that exclusively play together. ok maybe they did when they were younger but the gilas program has been existing for 3 years...that is more than enough time for them to gel and learn international play. so what's the fuss...why should a player either choose the pba or gilas? can't he play for the pba as a "day-job" then play for the national team when called upon? if the reason is that the pba board won't allow it then why not, eh they have been allowing it for the past 30 years na and even fixed the calendar to supposedly accomodate it.

[donno]

i believe that was eons ago :D

ah ok. i thought it is still the max salary of the PBA players. so inspite of the economic crisis, the PBA did manage to increase the player's salary. in contradiction, the NBA is forcing their players now to cut their present salaries as team owners are saying that they are losing money every year.

[durden_tyler]

i still don't get it...getting drafted in the pba shouldn't be a problem if the player really wants to play in the national team then he should be allowed as long as it doesn't interfere with the pba season. dba nga the reason they changed the format of the pba season is to accomodate the usual schedules of the major international tournaments? usa, spain, argentina, china, germany, serbia...you know, the world powerhouses...do not have a fixed national team that exclusively play together. ok maybe they did when they were younger but the gilas program has been existing for 3 years...that is more than enough time for them to gel and learn international play. so what's the fuss...why should a player either choose the pba or gilas? can't he play for the pba as a "day-job" then play for the national team when called upon? if the reason is that the pba board won't allow it then why not, eh they have been allowing it for the past 30 years na and even fixed the calendar to supposedly accomodate it.

It's possible of course. Question is will the owners allow their investments to be loaned? (Here we go again :D)

[durden_tyler]

ah ok. i thought it is still the max salary of the PBA players. so inspite of the economic crisis, the PBA did manage to increase the player's salary. in contradiction, the NBA is forcing their players now to cut their present salaries as team owners are saying that they are losing money every year.

The NBA owners and the commissioner are liars. But that is of course an entirely different story so we won't go there :D

[killmebusy]

ah ok. i thought it is still the max salary of the PBA players. so inspite of the economic crisis, the PBA did manage to increase the player's salary. in contradiction, the NBA is forcing their players now to cut their present salaries as team owners are saying that they are losing money every year.

i believe the max salary is now 500k...

[killmebusy]

It's possible of course. Question is will the owners allow their investments to be loaned? (Here we go again :D)

well, it is only in the Philippines that team owners do not allow players to play internationally. i couldn't imagine NBA teams and european soccer clubs not allowing their players to play in the fiba worlds or especially the world cup. it isn't like they will play every month or even every year...just in the major international tourneys like the asian games, fiba qualifiers, olympics and fiba worlds (if ever) what do you mean by here we go again?

[durden_tyler]

well, it is only in the Philippines that team owners do not allow players to play internationally. i couldn't imagine NBA teams and european soccer clubs not allowing their players to play in the fiba worlds or especially the world cup. it isn't like they will play every month or even every year...just in the major international tourneys like the asian games, fiba qualifiers, olympics and fiba worlds (if ever) what do you mean by here we go again?

The topic has been beaten to death black and blue twice-thrice over. Rinse. Repeat.

Anyway, just to go with your comparison. We can do what the NBA is doing-- release the players just in time for any major tourneys. The rest of the way, they play with their mother ball clubs. BUT as you might have noticed, that did not work for us the last few years (decades!) so SBP's plan was to have a team which they can train LONG-TERM. Thus, Gilas was born. Then again, we realized (SBP and Toroman) that it's not quite working. Thus, Gilas + Some was born.

So for the first time in years we'd have a hybrid team of a LONG-TERM POOL + LOANED PLAYERS (1 month practice!).

[killmebusy]

The topic has been beaten to death black and blue twice-thrice over. Rinse. Repeat.

Anyway, just to go with your comparison. We can do what the NBA is doing-- release the players just in time for any major tourneys. The rest of the way, they play with their mother ball clubs. BUT as you might have noticed, that did not work for us the last few years (decades!) so SBP's plan was to have a team which they can train LONG-TERM. Thus, Gilas was born. Then again, we realized (SBP and Toroman) that it's not quite working. Thus, Gilas + Some was born.

So for the first time in years we'd have a hybrid team of a LONG-TERM POOL + LOANED PLAYERS (1 month practice!).

appreciate the reply...thanks...you aren't like others who will simply say "back read" to new members like me. but hey i guess we are now OT.

on the the topic: regarding rumors, is it true that kenneth duremdes is attempting a comeback?

[durden_tyler]

appreciate the reply...thanks...you aren't like others who will simply say "back read" to new members like me. but hey i guess we are now OT.

on the the topic: regarding rumors, is it true that kenneth duremdes is attempting a comeback?

Backread :D

[Jay P. Mercado]

Can't recall if the PBA Board has amended its rules in terms of the salary cap. I doubt if it has been increased already, as this would have been extensively discussed already in this forum.

The salary cap remains to be at P350k max per month. For rookies, it remains to be P150k, with a 50% escalation on the 2nd year (P225k) and another 50% increase on the 3rd year (P337.5k). There's also an unwritten policy among the Board members that players can only be given 3-year contracts maximum. Hence, if a rookie wants to earn the P350k max, he can wait on his 4th season before getting this.

Nonetheless, I may also be wrong although it would be nice to see an article that tells us that the cap has been increased already...

[hijackthis]

I remember during the MBA days, The Manila Metrostars paid rommel adducul 700t a month

[hijackthis]

im not sure if he actually got paid :):)

[KevinDurant]

snowbadua snow badua
PBA BOARD to raise max salary of a DRAFT PICK on nxt Board meeting Aug 23. Current limit is 150K/month. What's the ideal? 200K? 215K?

Aug. 23? so I guess this is for next season. The battle for the young guns has begun. So, the PBA fanboys who used to annihilate the "gilas boys" are also the ones who want them to suit up for their fave PBA team.:eek:

[michie]

It's possible of course. Question is will the owners allow their investments to be loaned? (Here we go again :D)

agree... very rare do we see teams agree easily to have their players loaned. :D

[donno]

Aug. 23? so I guess this is for next season. The battle for the young guns has begun. So, the PBA fanboys who used to annihilate the "gilas boys" are also the ones who want them to suit up for their fave PBA team.:eek:

is this just a coinsidence or the PBA is making counter moves so the Gilas players will not back out in the PBA Draft?

[Jay P. Mercado]

Aug. 23? so I guess this is for next season. The battle for the young guns has begun. So, the PBA fanboys who used to annihilate the "gilas boys" are also the ones who want them to suit up for their fave PBA team.:eek:

Interesting development indeed...although I'm not really happy with this. Instead of helping out the national team maintain its program up to 2013, the PBA has waged a price war against the SBP with this proposed increase. I'm almost sure MVP and his two teams will vote against this increase but there's no way he will win this if what's needed is just the majority vote, and not absolute majority. The SMC bloc will have 3 votes, plus the 2 of Bert Lina so it's almost a guarantee that the increase will be approved.

Here's the funny part - there was no mention of the increase in the pay among veterans. The salary cap for the veteran players seems to have remained at 350k, which means that the league will only increase the salary of the rookies joining next season. You know where the motive of this move is focused then.

It's sad...personally I would still have wanted to see the nucleus retained with the national team. These would include Casio, Tiu, Barroca, Lassiter, Lutz, Aguilar, among others. Perhaps, Ballesteros and Ababou may have to be given up as they can't get the minutes from Toroman. But it's not a good sight to see the PBA actually going head-on against the SBP.

[KevinDurant]

Good thing the SBP has MVP as its backer. I think only the SMC group can match them money for money. I don't think other PBA ball clubs would want an increase as the economy is not that good. But if they want war, I am sure SBP would not back down. The program is at its critical point right now, and the SBP should act on this, so that the seeds they planted won't go into waste. Philippine basketball Association!

[nardy]

Can't recall if the PBA Board has amended its rules in terms of the salary cap. I doubt if it has been increased already, as this would have been extensively discussed already in this forum.

The salary cap remains to be at P350k max per month. For rookies, it remains to be P150k, with a 50% escalation on the 2nd year (P225k) and another 50% increase on the 3rd year (P337.5k). There's also an unwritten policy among the Board members that players can only be given 3-year contracts maximum. Hence, if a rookie wants to earn the P350k max, he can wait on his 4th season before getting this.

Nonetheless, I may also be wrong although it would be nice to see an article that tells us that the cap has been increased already...

Problem Jay is that even if there is a salary cap ..... what is the punitive action by the PBA if a team goes over. San Miguel teams has long been over the PBA Cap .... now include Talk N Text. Just look at the "very old" line-up of Ginebra which still includes Willie Miller at that time, how many of their players receive the 350 Max .... Miller, Caguiao, Menk, Helterbrand, Cortez, De Ocampo, Mamaril, Hatfield then am not sure about Tubid and Villanueva.

We have no 'luxury tax" that is imposed just like in the NBA. If they did, the PBA will surely have an abundance of funds by this time.

Even the conservative Alaska management in the past unknowingly revealed that there even exist side contracts on top of the uniform PBA contracts.

[acklium]

with drought from the past drafts
the teams are surely desperate enough to
give this kind of offers to the rookies

i had just notice that almost all of the players in the pba are above 25+
its very rare to see players who are young and competitive enough in the pba.

from bmeg ,ginebra,talk n text etch
almost all of the players are now old.
maybe its time now for a big reshuffle on their line up.

[codcradle]

Powerade to pick Tiu No. 1

MANILA, Philippines — Chris Tiu has yet to declare himself eligible for the draft but the swift and smart Gilas guard is already being eyed by Powerade as its No. 1 overall pick in the PBA Rookie Draft slated Aug. 28.

The PBA deadline for submission of requirements for the draft is Thursday but Tiu was reportedly still undecided.

But the other high caliber Gilas member rumored to join the draft, JV Casio, has reportedly decided on leaving the national team, a source at the PBA said Wednesday.

“His application papers are with his manager but we have not received it yet," the source who requested not to be identified, said.

Whether Tiu will turn pro or not, Powerade Tigers Gerard Francisco said the only thing definite for them is that they won’t give away their No. 1 pick.

“We’ll definitely keep it. It’s the first time for the franchise to pick first, so we’re excited about it,” Francisco said.

Aside from the top pick, Powerade also owns the No. 4 pick, which the team obtained via a trade with Rain or Shine. The Tigers shipped Larry Rodriguez to the Painters in exchange for Eddie Laure and a first round pick in this year’s Draft.

Francisco said the Tigers are still undecided on who to select for the fourth pick.

The 5-foot-11 Tiu, 26, is torn between turning pro or staying with the Smart-Gilas program, where he is under contract until Sept. 30.

On the other hand, four of their teammates – Mark Barroca, Mac Baracael, Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz – have already submitted their documents for Draft applications although they can still pull out of list if they decide to stay with the national team.

Smart-Gilas will compete in the FIBA-Asia Championship in Wuhan, China starting Sept. 15, the qualifying tournament for the 2012 London Olympics.

Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas president and Smart-Gilas benefactor Manny V. Pangilinan recently said that he will continue to support the national team program through 2013, the year when the FIBA-Asia qualifier for the 2014 World Championship will be held.

Negotiations for contract extension between the six Gilas players and Smart Sports executive Pato Gregorio and Smart-Gilas team manager Frankie Lim are expected to commence soon.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/331074/powerade-pick-tiu-no-1

[killmebusy]

Powerade to pick Tiu No. 1

MANILA, Philippines — Chris Tiu has yet to declare himself eligible for the draft but the swift and smart Gilas guard is already being eyed by Powerade as its No. 1 overall pick in the PBA Rookie Draft slated Aug. 28.

The PBA deadline for submission of requirements for the draft is Thursday but Tiu was reportedly still undecided.

But the other high caliber Gilas member rumored to join the draft, JV Casio, has reportedly decided on leaving the national team, a source at the PBA said Wednesday.

“His application papers are with his manager but we have not received it yet," the source who requested not to be identified, said.

Whether Tiu will turn pro or not, Powerade Tigers Gerard Francisco said the only thing definite for them is that they won’t give away their No. 1 pick.

“We’ll definitely keep it. It’s the first time for the franchise to pick first, so we’re excited about it,” Francisco said.

Aside from the top pick, Powerade also owns the No. 4 pick, which the team obtained via a trade with Rain or Shine. The Tigers shipped Larry Rodriguez to the Painters in exchange for Eddie Laure and a first round pick in this year’s Draft.

Francisco said the Tigers are still undecided on who to select for the fourth pick.

The 5-foot-11 Tiu, 26, is torn between turning pro or staying with the Smart-Gilas program, where he is under contract until Sept. 30.

On the other hand, four of their teammates – Mark Barroca, Mac Baracael, Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz – have already submitted their documents for Draft applications although they can still pull out of list if they decide to stay with the national team.

Smart-Gilas will compete in the FIBA-Asia Championship in Wuhan, China starting Sept. 15, the qualifying tournament for the 2012 London Olympics.

Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas president and Smart-Gilas benefactor Manny V. Pangilinan recently said that he will continue to support the national team program through 2013, the year when the FIBA-Asia qualifier for the 2014 World Championship will be held.

Negotiations for contract extension between the six Gilas players and Smart Sports executive Pato Gregorio and Smart-Gilas team manager Frankie Lim are expected to commence soon.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/331074/powerade-pick-tiu-no-1

well, we all know that skills-wise tiu is nowhere near the caliber of a top pick but the pba is not just about talent, it actually is more on marketing and with tiu powerade will grab a lot more fans. they still have the 4th pick though wherein they could still choose ballesteros to bolster their more pressing frontcourt need. it seems that the gilas boys are all set to join the pba...

[durden_tyler]

well, we all know that skills-wise tiu is nowhere near the caliber of a top pick but the pba is not just about talent, it actually is more on marketing and with tiu powerade will grab a lot more fans. they still have the 4th pick though wherein they could still choose ballesteros to bolster their more pressing frontcourt need. it seems that the gilas boys are all set to join the pba...

Contrary, a lot of them are undecided still. At least that's what they are trying to say. (Deadline is today for the application so we won't have to wait too long)

[acklium]

Contrary, a lot of them are undecided still. At least that's what they are trying to say. (Deadline is today for the application so we won't have to wait too long)

according to me
4 gilas mainstay are already pro-bound
1 is toro's boylet

3 are still undecided

dropping of the main guy
for 3 former nt mainstay ( would be an overkill disaster)

[durden_tyler]

according to me
4 gilas mainstay are already pro-bound
1 is toro's boylet

3 are still undecided

dropping of the main guy
for 3 former nt mainstay ( would be an overkill disaster)

Source? Or is this another one of your whims? :D

Anyway, i thought the deadline was today but apparently it's Friday so this means we'd have a full day of wild speculations regarding the PBA draft and Gilas. Good times. :D

[acklium]

Source? Or is this another one of your whims? :D

Anyway, i thought the deadline was today but apparently it's Friday so this means we'd have a full day of wild speculations regarding the PBA draft and Gilas. Good times. :D

70% possibility
source : secret
if half of this happen then buy me a beer :rolleyes:

[durden_tyler]

70% possibility
source : secret
if half of this happen then buy me a beer :rolleyes:

Define half and we have a deal :cool:

[acklium]

Define half and we have a deal :cool:

4 to pba

but if ever japeth is release ill be a pba fanboy starting that day:mad:

[KevinDurant]

Anyway, i thought the deadline was today but apparently it's Friday so this means we'd have a full day of wild speculations regarding the PBA draft and Gilas. Good times.

almost all the Gilas players have applied BUT they can use that as LEVERAGE. They can still back out though.

[Big Ticket]

almost all the Gilas players have applied BUT they can use that as LEVERAGE. They can still back out though.

i really don't expect all of them to stay in the draft....max of 3 lang (ababou, ballesteros and either baracael or barroca)...casio, lutz and lassiter will be back in gilas...

[Buenafine]

From Charles: Official statement of Chris Tiu: After much prayer and consultation with family and friends, I have decided not to take part in the PBA draft this year. My dream has always been to represent our flag and country by competing in the various international tournaments. Should management wish to invite me, it would be my privilege to continue on with the Gilas national team program. Thank you for the support.



He might not be THAT skilled but he is one of the smartest basketball players in the Philippines. Think Steve Nash. He runs the plays and makes sure there's stability in the offense.

[lovejones]

He might not be THAT skilled but he is one of the smartest basketball players in the Philippines. Think Steve Nash. He runs the plays and makes sure there's stability in the offense.

I hope we don't begrudge the other Gilas players who joined the draft because though he is one of the smartest basketball players in the Philippines, he is also one of the richest athletes in the Philippines

[capitantiago]

almost all the Gilas players have applied BUT they can use that as LEVERAGE. They can still back out though.

yeah. like what japeth did and he was labeled this and that.

[capitantiago]

I hope we don't begrudge the other Gilas players who joined the draft because though he is one of the smartest basketball players in the Philippines, he is also one of the richest athletes in the Philippines

tell that to the gilas fan boys who harbor deeply rooted grudge towards the PBA.

[Cryotek]

From Charles: Official statement of Chris Tiu: After much prayer and consultation with family and friends, I have decided not to take part in the PBA draft this year. My dream has always been to represent our flag and country by competing in the various international tournaments. Should management wish to invite me, it would be my privilege to continue on with the Gilas national team program. Thank you for the support.



My wild guess...he'll just wait for James Yap to retire in baskteball before he'll try his luck in the PBA!:D

Kidding aside, IMO, I think he'll be much more needed in the international scene than here, he's actually the backbone of the Smart Gilas experiment, nuff said!;)

[fthesaint]

Biggest worry now is Ranidel, Kelly and Jimmy's state of heath. What more with their state of mind including Chot's leading to the most important battle our national quintet is heading to. Whether they win or not surely the long and demanding season will eventually take it's toll in the expense of the national team. Poor Philippines. When will we ever learn.:(

[potz05]

i dont think Lutz will pull out his application, after all he wasnt given much playing time on gilas.

Seriously? Have you been watching lately? Luts has been an important part of Gilas as of late.. Wow

[fthesaint]

Seriously? Have you been watching lately? Luts has been an important part of Gilas as of late.. Wow

I do agree about Lutz. Aside from "GShock" and Aguilar's progress esp on the defensive end, Lutz was one of our more consistent and bright performers in the last Jones Cup. I still believe that him and Lassiter will be more productive if they play on their more natural og positions.

[Big Ticket]

I do agree about Lutz. Aside from "GShock" and Aguilar's progress esp on the defensive end, Lutz was one of our more consistent and bright performers in the last Jones Cup. I still believe that him and Lassiter will be more productive if they play on their more natural og positions.

that won't happen since glamour boy is sticking....

[fthesaint]

that won't happen since glamour boy is sticking....

:D I know that's why they should have trained him and fast tracked his development as a pg right from the very start because by continuously having him lord more minutes on the 2 spot, we've lost our supposed to be advantage in the guard positions...instead our supposed to be scorers have become defensive minded and have to adjust to pos 3 just to have some share of the playing time. Pls. don't get me wrong though as I trully admire The Capt. and I would love to have him in the team.

[KevinDurant]

.casio, lutz and lassiter will be back in gilas...

I hope they include Baracael. They are actually getting his full value coz he heals from an injury fast!:D

[killmebusy]

dude you can't really compare chris tiu to steve nash...well, you can if he improves his shooting, dribbling, elusiveness and clutch play.

the gilas boys should just enter the pba if they want real everyday competition...the gilas team has so far only participated in exhbition tourneys in 3 years. the one tourney they are preparing for, we arguably have no shot at winning. a 2 year extension means 2 more years of just practice and exhibition games...how much more can they learn? i mean, aren't they already too old for just training?

[reamily]

I salute Petron for making these far one step closer not only winning it all but at the same time spoil it all, they prove me wrong:D


Why is Japeth not retained? ah signed in Tnt:eek:

[alien space bats]

dude you can't really compare chris tiu to steve nash...well, you can if he improves his shooting, dribbling, elusiveness and clutch play.

the gilas boys should just enter the pba if they want real everyday competition...the gilas team has so far only participated in exhbition tourneys in 3 years. the one tourney they are preparing for, we arguably have no shot at winning. a 2 year extension means 2 more years of just practice and exhibition games...how much more can they learn? i mean, aren't they already too old for just training?

home run. now it's time to get those 6'2 and above guards /6'6 above forwards and piece them together into a tall national team. if we have the right talents, we dont need two years practice. 1 will do.

[sharky]

From Charles: Official statement of Chris Tiu: After much prayer and consultation with family and friends, I have decided not to take part in the PBA draft this year. My dream has always been to represent our flag and country by competing in the various international tournaments. Should management wish to invite me, it would be my privilege to continue on with the Gilas national team program. Thank you for the support.



He might not be THAT skilled but he is one of the smartest basketball players in the Philippines. Think Steve Nash. He runs the plays and makes sure there's stability in the offense.

ohhh God pleeeaasssseee don't put Steve Nash's name near Chris Tiu. Sorry Steve Nash for me is one of the best player ever who played basketball.:mad::mad::mad: he doesn't deserve to be compared to Chris Tiu .:p:p

[neo]

ohhh God pleeeaasssseee don't put Steve Nash's name near Chris Tiu. Sorry Steve Nash for me is one of the best player ever who played basketball.:mad::mad::mad: he doesn't deserve to be compared to Chris Tiu .:p:p

if tiu gets his hair long i think they are comparable already :D

[Buenafine]

And 1 moves don't rule the basketball world. :)

[kaiziken_pinas]

ohhh God pleeeaasssseee don't put Steve Nash's name near Chris Tiu. Sorry Steve Nash for me is one of the best player ever who played basketball.:mad::mad::mad: he doesn't deserve to be compared to Chris Tiu .:p:p

Steve Nash is comparably a lot more superior than Chris Tiu!:D

[durden_tyler]

i really don't expect all of them to stay in the draft....max of 3 lang (ababou, ballesteros and either baracael or barroca)...casio, lutz and lassiter will be back in gilas...

Does this mean all of them (Casio, Lutz, Lassiter) will be receiving 250 max salary? Do you think its wise for the SBP management to offer ALL OF them that contract? Do you believe they deserve it?

It goes for three years as well, do you think the players would prefer a shorter 2-year contract over the rookie scale 3-year contract in the PBA?

[acklium]

that won't happen since glamour boy is sticking....

big ticket really loves chris tiu :D:D

[Silent Killer]

Twitter mode News:

TheDeanQuinito Quinito Henson
by micohalili
shopinas 2 sign franz pumaren as head coach, 3 yr deal, franz says hes starting frm scratch, no where 2 go but up

and a rumors
snowbadua snow badua
1 COACH is said to be leaving his team soon. This is going to stun their fans, if my sources are true. Hmmm....

[potz05]

Twitter mode News:

TheDeanQuinito Quinito Henson
by micohalili
shopinas 2 sign franz pumaren as head coach, 3 yr deal, franz says hes starting frm scratch, no where 2 go but up

Wow! BIG NEWS! :eek:

[reamily]

Wow! BIG NEWS! :eek:

lol he should sign Mike Mac and Joseph hahhahah:eek:

[potz05]

lol he should sign Mike Mac and Joseph hahhahah:eek:

Since Gilas boys are relatively high on the 1st round will he draft Paul Lee a potential franchise player? hmmm.. UE vs. DLSU.? Maybe not! Hahaha:D

[Silent Killer]

lol he should sign Mike Mac and Joseph hahhahah:eek:

his former la salle players? lolz :p

[potz05]

his former la salle players? lolz :p

Trade for JV Casio since others predict he's in the top 3 pick.

Trade for Rico Maierhofer (hope the spelling is correct) and Renren Ritualo

Get Willie Wilson and Junjun Cabatu.

And resurrect Manny Ramos' basketball career.

Eventually you'll get his DLSU minions.. :cool:

[donspark47]

my point of view!

Going to the PBA is a very practical decision in your basketball career...after all you served the PHI National Team then think your future as will...you get the maximum rookie pay and the next 2 years u get the maximum pay...u also have built a career in the league...

best example...

Danny Ildefonso - Romel Adducul - if you have a basketball IQ gets!:p:p:p

[durden_tyler]

Wow! BIG NEWS! :eek:

i think it's a big development as well. Also, i hope he brings the 48 minutes of Hell (full court press!) to the pros. i know, i know it works better in the amateurs (full of erratic players from 1-5!) but maybe it can work in the pros too! It makes for an exciting form of basketball on both ends!

[potz05]

Oh and I forgot Adonis Sta. Maria :D

[potz05]

my point of view!

Going to the PBA is a very practical decision in your basketball career...after all you served the PHI National Team then think your future as will...you get the maximum rookie pay and the next 2 years u get the maximum pay...u also have built a career in the league...

best example...

Danny Ildefonso - Romel Adducul - if you have a basketball IQ gets!:p:p:p

I think the D.I. example is good but not the Adducul part coz he logs himself up in the MBA than in the PBA so its a boo-boo thinking for Romel on that one.

[Silent Killer]

i think it's a big development as well. Also, i hope he brings the 48 minutes of Hell (full court press!) to the pros. i know, i know it works better in the amateurs (full of erratic players from 1-5!) but maybe it can work in the pros too! It makes for an exciting form of basketball on both ends!

in international hoops it does wonder(pumaren press) see: gilas, 2007 PHL team

[acklium]

I think the D.I. example is good but not the Adducul part coz he logs himself up in the MBA than in the PBA so its a boo-boo thinking for Romel on that one.

danny can play the wing

hes agile
he speed had increased
a mid range upto 3s
got a good basketball iq
haha XD i wish he was only 20 to 23

[Silent Killer]

danny can play the wing

hes agile
he speed had increased
a mid range upto 3s
got a good basketball iq
haha XD i wish he was only 20 to 23

a young danny i. :D

[acklium]

a young danny i. :D

i remember back in his younger days
mengkee bateer was really having a hard time against danny I

[potz05]

A young D.S. and D.I. with a young Eric Menk could've conquered Asia but then the QATAR!! Remember the QATAR! ahhaha.. and as well as they're not young anymore.:D

[Big Ticket]

big ticket really loves chris tiu :D:D

and we all love how you translate....

[neo]

i remember back in his younger days
mengkee bateer was really having a hard time against danny I

refresh my memory because as far as i remember, those two never played against each other except in the 2002 asian games where yao ming and bateer dominated taulava and co. en route to a 40-plus pts demolition of the pba-rp team.

[reamily]

but I really want to include Bader, James Maangahas and Peejay Barua in the lineup..


revenge daw:eek::D

[reamily]

and Danny Oh este Danny I never get it going in his NT stint because Danny I's outside game is already discovered by Danny during in his post injury years where he cannot rely to his usual explosiveness and strengthin the post

[Silent Killer]

and some injuries hurt danny i.

[potz05]

but I really want to include Bader, James Maangahas and Peejay Barua in the lineup..


revenge daw:eek::D

hahah.. revenge to whom? FEU-Petron? Ahahaha.. Okay Petron will try get Jonas back..

Going to trade for Mark Isip and Jeff Chan..

And get the long limp Don..... hmmm.. forget his surname? :confused:

[reamily]

Part of DLSU debacle (failure to entering the final 4 after time immemorial) is blaming of coach "bigote" to his veterans for not performing to his expectation directly hitting James Mangahas, Peejay Barua, Bader Malabricks, Ferdinand (lost cause since day 1)..

but you cannot blame them as he try to give his recruits from rp youth plus Arvie Bringas significant pt and add that Rico opted no to play his final year for La Salle..

[Silent Killer]

wondering.. :rolleyes: where in the world is james mangahas? :confused:

[reamily]

wondering.. :rolleyes: where in the world is james mangahas? :confused:

pharex together with Jr "Kobe" Tecson, Marlon Adolfo and Edwin Asoro

[acklium]

and we all love how you translate....

and i also love how you post with sarcasm :D

[potz05]

Part of DLSU debacle (failure to entering the final 4 after time immemorial) is blaming of coach "bigote" to his veterans for not performing to his expectation directly hitting James Mangahas, Peejay Barua, Bader Malabricks, Ferdinand (lost cause since day 1)..

but you cannot blame them as he try to give his recruits from rp youth plus Arvie Bringas significant pt and add that Rico opted no to play his final year for La Salle..

Isn't it Malabes?



wondering.. :rolleyes: where in the world is james mangahas? :confused:

ahaha.. I think I saw him in a game at SMC-Liga though not really sure.

[Silent Killer]

pharex together with Jr "Kobe" Tecson, Marlon Adolfo and Edwin Asoro

thanks.. honing further their skills at d-league.

[acklium]

refresh my memory because as far as i remember, those two never played against each other except in the 2002 asian games where yao ming and bateer dominated taulava and co. en route to a 40-plus pts demolition of the pba-rp team.

i think it was way back the 1998s or something
a tuneup or someort of friendly match between rp and china.

[acklium]

hes in bahrain national team
as a star player :rolleyes:

[Silent Killer]

Twitter mode News

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DANNY ESPIRITU:baka mag retire na si KERBY RAYMUNDO kung di maganda ang resulta ng check up niya sa US. Kasi ayaw niya ng on and off sa game
1 minute ago

bad news for B-meg and kerby raymundo fans if the results are not good.

[reamily]

hes in bahrain national team
as a star player :rolleyes:

do not over exaggerate he is a nt mainstay but far from a star player lol

[Nerraw0384]

Isn't it Malabes?




ahaha.. I think I saw him in a game at SMC-Liga though not really sure.

I think he is referring to how Bader shooting bricks on latter part of playing years with archers.

[potz05]

Twitter mode News

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DANNY ESPIRITU:baka mag retire na si KERBY RAYMUNDO kung di maganda ang resulta ng check up niya sa US. Kasi ayaw niya ng on and off sa game
1 minute ago

bad news for B-meg and kerby raymundo fans if the results are not good.

They should have traded him when almost a lot of fans like him to be dealt to another team.

[potz05]

I think he is referring to how Bader shooting bricks on latter part of playing years with archers.

Hahah.. sabi ko a e

Trans:

I thought so! :p Poor me.. slow at sarcasm fast at picking at other players.. :D:cool:

[durden_tyler]

Twitter mode News

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DANNY ESPIRITU:baka mag retire na si KERBY RAYMUNDO kung di maganda ang resulta ng check up niya sa US. Kasi ayaw niya ng on and off sa game
1 minute ago

bad news for B-meg and kerby raymundo fans if the results are not good.

i think it's good news FOR B-MEG. At least, di na aasa di ba? (Trans: better start finding the long-term replacement now.)

[reamily]

We will see Bader come fiba I hope he have a breakout game so that Archers can Say Animo Bader Animo Bahrain

[Nerraw0384]

Hahah.. sabi ko a e

Trans:

I thought so! :p Poor me.. slow at sarcasm fast at picking at other players.. :D:cool:

It's alright, pre. Sarcasm is good. LOL we have lots here @ IBN Pinas. :-)

[durden_tyler]

It's alright, pre. Sarcasm is good. LOL we have lots here @ IBN Pinas. :-)

No it's not.

[capitantiago]

Twitter mode News

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DANNY ESPIRITU:baka mag retire na si KERBY RAYMUNDO kung di maganda ang resulta ng check up niya sa US. Kasi ayaw niya ng on and off sa game
1 minute ago

bad news for B-meg and kerby raymundo fans if the results are not good.

that's good 'tude. he can be another assistant coach at BMEG and at Letran. :D

[Silent Killer]

that's good 'tude. he can be another assistant coach at BMEG and at Letran. :D

and at the same time probably a practive player for b-meg.

[potz05]

that's good 'tude. he can be another assistant coach at BMEG and at Letran. :D

He already has an experience on being a scout :D during an NCAA broadcast.. it was said that he was the one who made Raymund Almazan be recruited by Letran though Almazan is his cousin or something I'm not sure but they are related "daw."

[acklium]

do not over exaggerate he is a nt mainstay but far from a star player lol

angry?hahahahaha
truth is different from joke

[Silent Killer]

twitter mode (showbiz :D :p)

Fire Quinito
FireQuinito Fire Quinito
May nabasa akong hirit sa Facebook, dapat daw pati Daddy's Angel ni Jayvee Gayoso i-remake. Pero si @trish_roque pa rin yung bida #childstar
4 minutes ago

Fire Quinito
FireQuinito Fire Quinito
Ire-remake daw yung Last Two Minutes, sabi ni Mother Lily. Gusto nya bida, si James Yap - bit.ly/oGBwg3
4 minutes ago

Lolz.. :p

[reamily]

angry?hahahahaha
truth is different from joke

ay sorry pre i don't know the joke was on me:D

but seriously bader's role in bahrain nt is just like his role in la salle:D

[killmebusy]

almazan is actually kerby's nephew daw.

[Silent Killer]

snowbadua snow badua
AIR 21: Naghahanap pa kami ng bagong coach. Bababa kasi as ASSISTANT COACH si BONG RAMOS.
27 minutes ago

[donlyn]

twitter mode (showbiz :D :p)

Fire Quinito
FireQuinito Fire Quinito
May nabasa akong hirit sa Facebook, dapat daw pati Daddy's Angel ni Jayvee Gayoso i-remake. Pero si @trish_roque pa rin yung bida #childstar
4 minutes ago

Fire Quinito
FireQuinito Fire Quinito
Ire-remake daw yung Last Two Minutes, sabi ni Mother Lily. Gusto nya bida, si James Yap - bit.ly/oGBwg3
4 minutes ago

Lolz.. :p

So then it will be followed by Dunkin' Donato... hahaha

[potz05]

snowbadua snow badua
AIR 21: Naghahanap pa kami ng bagong coach. Bababa kasi as ASSISTANT COACH si BONG RAMOS.
27 minutes ago

Leo Austria? Leo Isaac? Who're the candidates?

[killmebusy]

Leo Austria? Leo Isaac? Who're the candidates?

not leo isaac! probably boyet fernandez...

[Silent Killer]

More Twitter:

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MERALCO BOLTS has 7 expiring players. They have extended contracts of SOLOMON MERCADO & MARK ISIP. RENREN was waived. MARLOU back to BARAKO.
1 minute ago

[lovejones]

More Twitter:

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MERALCO BOLTS has 7 expiring players. They have extended contracts of SOLOMON MERCADO & MARK ISIP. RENREN was waived. MARLOU back to BARAKO.
1 minute ago

marlou back to barako? that's shopinas, right?

since the new head coach of the shopinas is franz pumaren, expect marlou to learn how to press.

hahahahaha

[reamily]

lol franz will be tested instantly Imagine Marlou with his long reach leading the press or maybe leading the cheerers for shopinas

[durden_tyler]

lol franz will be tested instantly Imagine Marlou with his long reach leading the press or maybe leading the cheerers for shopinas

What's Marlou's average gonna look like? 2 MPG? Baka humingi pa yan extra bayad kung per full court press per game!

[reamily]

Coach pagod na ako:cool::eek:

trans: I'm excited for Marlou

[Silent Killer]

it will be one exhausted game after another for aquino:D :p

[Silent Killer]

lolz since ritualo is waived, we might here that shopinas sign ritualo :D ;)

[neo]

i think it was way back the 1998s or something
a tuneup or someort of friendly match between rp and china.

in 1998, danny i. was a rookie and was not part of the pba-centennial rp team that played china in araneta and in the thailand asian games (although i think he did play as a reinforcement for the rp team in the 1998 seaba)

in 2002, we all know what happened :D

mmm...i hope ritiualo gets his second wind whatever team that would be...:)

[Big Ticket]

lolz since ritualo is waived, we might here that shopinas sign ritualo :D ;)

big possibility....and probably junjun cabatu too...

[ricodgame]

and some injuries hurt danny i.

how much i loved the 2002 team, but it also the culprit who ruined the career of Danny "the demolition man" Ildefonso. He was so bulky and strong, but they asked him to lose weight be agile(they want him to play 3 I guess). After the 2002, we don't have the same Danny I. :(


hahah.. revenge to whom? FEU-Petron? Ahahaha.. Okay Petron will try get Jonas back..

Going to trade for Mark Isip and Jeff Chan..

And get the long limp Don..... hmmm.. forget his surname? :confused: They can sign Catli and Jones. :D

or how about the Ateneo Talk and Text :cool:


but I really want to include Bader, James Maangahas and Peejay Barua in the lineup..


revenge daw:eek::D

they can trade #5 pick for Cardona
2nd round pick for Cortez and Wilson
Get RenRen from Meralco
Don Allado and Rico from Bmeg
Yeo from Petron
Tang from ROS
Sharma from Barako Bull/Air 21
Bring back Adonis
Sign James Mangahas

C - Allado, Sharma
PF- Rico, Adonis
SF - Wilson, Mangahas
SG - Cardona, Ritualo, Yeo
PG - Cortez, Tang

Coach: Franz "Bigote" Pumaren
Shopinas:D

[capitantiago]

Coach pagod na ako:cool::eek:

trans: I'm excited for Marlou

hahaha i'm excited, too! :D
they should pay marlou based on his productions. hahaha
then bonuses if he has double doubles, triple doubles, career highs. :cool:

[Skyline]

Hope to see Ron Matias @ Shopinas...

[potz05]

not leo isaac! probably boyet fernandez...

Why? I like how he maps out his plays during crunch time. Hahaha Here him use tactics in his Arellano Chiefs. Some terms are really laughable but kinda effective. :D:cool:

[potz05]

They can sign Catli and Jones. :D

or how about the Ateneo Talk and Text :cool:

YOWN! I remember the surname at last DON YABUT!!! right right? get that big man!!! :eek::D




they can trade #5 pick for Cardona
2nd round pick for Cortez and Wilson
Get RenRen from Meralco
Don Allado and Rico from Bmeg
Yeo from Petron
Tang from ROS
Sharma from Barako Bull/Air 21
Bring back Adonis
Sign James Mangahas

C - Allado, Sharma
PF- Rico, Adonis
SF - Wilson, Mangahas
SG - Cardona, Ritualo, Yeo
PG - Cortez, Tang

Coach: Franz "Bigote" Pumaren
Shopinas:D

OH Man! You forgot the King of "TAP RING" without the ball really making it to the basket (ala Joey Boy) Manny Ramos!!! Hahaha..

Nasan na kayo to?

Trans:

Where is this guy? :confused::p

[nardy]

from Twitter:

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I heard @charlestiu (http://twitter.com/charlestiu) is being considered to be one of POWERADE TIGERS' ASSISTANT COACHES next season. ,-) That's from a very reliable source
33 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/snowbadua/status/105797192140333056)

Hmmm .... now that they could not get Chris so they'll settle instead for Charles :rolleyes:

it looks a lot of movements in the PBA

[killmebusy]

Why? I like how he maps out his plays during crunch time. Hahaha Here him use tactics in his Arellano Chiefs. Some terms are really laughable but kinda effective. :D:cool:

well, he hasn't won anything anywhere...pbl, pba-dl, ncaa, ncraa...i don't remember him winning a title as a coach. plus arellano is supposed to be a contender this year with celada, acidre, lapuz...but they are at the bottom just 2 games ahead of lowly perpetual. he hasn't even taken them to the final 4 even with a strong lineup...especially when gio ciriacruz played there and had an mvp caliber year. speaking of, i wonder why ciriacruz isn't being looked at by pba teams...maybe another conference in the pba-dl.

[durden_tyler]

from Twitter:

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I heard @charlestiu (http://twitter.com/charlestiu) is being considered to be one of POWERADE TIGERS' ASSISTANT COACHES next season. ,-) That's from a very reliable source
33 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/snowbadua/status/105797192140333056)

Hmmm .... now that they could not get Chris so they'll settle instead for Charles :rolleyes:

it looks a lot of movements in the PBA

Powerade taking a cue from the Gilas management moves? :D

[Silent Killer]

Twitter News

Kerby Raymundo: To all the fans, BMEG parin ako makikipagnegotiate. bahala na agent ko na si Danny Espiritu. Im doing good here :-) Therapy ako 3 times a week. My foot is better now nakakapaglaro nako ulit dito. Wait ko pa Doctor ko dumating out of town siya. No worries guys :-)

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KERBY RAYMUNDO:Retire? I still have 5 more years in my tank :-) Doing good here! Be back soon ready to play. I'm excited All filipino Cup:-)

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MARVIN ESPIRITU: Wala pang decision si JAPETH AGUILAR as to his future plans. Priority niya NAT'L TEAM. Pero he can play naman sa TNT and NT

[durden_tyler]

Twitter News
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MARVIN ESPIRITU: Wala pang decision si JAPETH AGUILAR as to his future plans. Priority niya NAT'L TEAM. Pero he can play naman sa TNT and NT

Whose decision? MVP or Japeth? :D

[The_Big_Cat]

Whose decision? MVP or Japeth? :D

Executive decision? :D

[Silent Killer]

TheDeanQuinito Quinito Henson
renren ritualo now unrestricted free agent, at least 2 teams interested-new shopinas coach franz might take in his former la salle star
16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

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CHARLIE DY: No turning back for JV CASIO. He wants to be in the PBA next season.
2 minutes ago Favorite Reply

[Silent Killer]

DennisPrincipe Dennis Principe
Ya, papunta na dun.Effort pa cguro,lalo na introvert players RT @realJManicad @DennisPrincipe parang bumabalik ang angas ng PBA nung '80s :)
16 minutes ago

angas? pba?

they don't bring their angas in international games. :rolleyes:

[Big Ticket]

from Twitter:

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I heard @charlestiu (http://twitter.com/charlestiu) is being considered to be one of POWERADE TIGERS' ASSISTANT COACHES next season. ,-) That's from a very reliable source
33 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/snowbadua/status/105797192140333056)

Hmmm .... now that they could not get Chris so they'll settle instead for Charles :rolleyes:

it looks a lot of movements in the PBA

that's just like the move petron made when they got bobby parks sr....

[acklium]

DennisPrincipe Dennis Principe
Ya, papunta na dun.Effort pa cguro,lalo na introvert players RT @realJManicad @DennisPrincipe parang bumabalik ang angas ng PBA nung '80s :)
16 minutes ago

angas? pba?

they don't bring their angas in international games. :rolleyes:

way back in the 80s and 90s
our nt players are know to be skillful and brute type of players

now we are tag as soft darn it!

[reamily]

Bo Perasol made Coke one of most unlikeable teams in the league adding Charles may add 100 reasons more :eek:

[durden_tyler]

Bo Perasol made Coke one of most unlikeable teams in the league adding Charles may add 100 reasons more :eek:

Who cares about the other 100 reasons. All they want is for Chris Tiu to like them :D

[donno]

some rumors that i found:

-Hontiveros might return to Petron next conference (this is already 90% sure)
-Ginebra may do a big trade come draft day
-Though, Powerade is saying that they will not trade their #1 pick, various sources are saying that they are exploring the said option. team is looking for a big man who can replace the aging Dennis Espino

[thecoolcat]

some rumors that i found:

-Hontiveros might return to Petron next conference (this is already 90% sure)
-Ginebra may do a big trade come draft day
-Though, Powerade is saying that they will not trade their #1 pick, various sources are saying that they are exploring the said option. team is looking for a big man who can replace the aging Dennis Espino Is this the reason of DH why he is not joining smart gilas in wuhan. Coz he is returning to SMB team which is the bitter rivals of MVP's group? :(

[michie]

some rumors that i found:

-Hontiveros might return to Petron next conference (this is already 90% sure)
-Ginebra may do a big trade come draft day
-Though, Powerade is saying that they will not trade their #1 pick, various sources are saying that they are exploring the said option. team is looking for a big man who can replace the aging Dennis Espino

The first one is probable since Petron doesn't have a legitimate 2 guard after the Governor's Cup. Both Alex and Denok play point guard.

[donno]

Is this the reason of DH why he is not joining smart gilas in wuhan. Coz he is returning to SMB team which is the bitter rivals of MVP's group? :(

part of.

[potz05]

The first one is probable since Petron doesn't have a legitimate 2 guard after the Governor's Cup. Both Alex and Denok play point guard.

Added factor was that he is already a free agent.

[AMDG2008]

Is this the reason of DH why he is not joining smart gilas in wuhan. Coz he is returning to SMB team which is the bitter rivals of MVP's group? :(

Your guess is as good as mine:D...knowing how it is with the SMC teams, this is very far from the truth:D

[durden_tyler]

Added factor was that he is already a free agent.

One of the reasons how SBP could have done better-- did they believe that players will just play without a contract? The best they could have done is offer a short-term contract just for Wuhan?

[reamily]

One of the reasons how SBP could have done better-- did they believe that players will just play without a contract? The best they could have done is offer a short-term contract just for Wuhan?

short term contracts are somehow irrelevant for dondon at this stage of his career as in his age(34) injuries has been and would be an issue to a guy who rely to his shooting, slashing and perimeter defense..\

so if SBP/MVP would not assure dondon long term contract this will happen eventually

[durden_tyler]

short term contracts are somehow irrelevant for dondon at this stage of his career as in his age(34) injuries has been and would be an issue to a guy who rely to his shooting, slashing and perimeter defense..\

so if SBP/MVP would not assure dondon long term contract this will happen eventually

You have a point. So, it was a dangerous proposition from the start (they should have known that August was when the contract expired).. Either they "extended" it a bit (agreements could have been done) or they are forced to offer him a longer contract (which of course, is what the "old guy" prefers now.)

[thecoolcat]

short term contracts are somehow irrelevant for dondon at this stage of his career as in his age(34) injuries has been and would be an issue to a guy who rely to his shooting, slashing and perimeter defense..\

so if SBP/MVP would not assure dondon long term contract this will happen eventually yeah right. you can't blame the guy if he is looking forward for his future and without a contract from MVP group, he don't wan't to jeopardized his basketball career. DH is already 34 with 1-2 more years for him.

[durden_tyler]

yeah right. you can't blame the guy if he is looking forward for his future and without a contract from MVP group, he don't wan't to jeopardized his basketball career. DH is already 34 with 1-2 more years for him.

The question is, was there an offer from MVP? i can understand both sides too. MVP not wanting to shell out a big, long contract and Hontiveros not wanting the opposite.

[Silent Killer]

From Twitter

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Wow, one of the ROOKIE ASPIRANTS is said to be asking for atleast 250K a month. Hmm...
35 minutes ago

I wonder, Lassiter? Lutz?

[Silent Killer]

From Twitter
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1 high scoring off guard might be shipped to a new team soon. This team is a certified championship caliber.
1 minute ago

[killmebusy]

Dondon is a high character guy...but he also still needs to feed his family so we can't second guess his intentions in begging off playing in wuhan. anyway, i don't think the gilas players have their hearts with gilas anymore...we can't blame them though as i think they themselves know we will not win in wuhan. anyone who still believes otherwise has to wake up...if what iran did to us in the jones cup wasn't ominous i don't know what is. we haven't even played china and japan team A...

[thecoolcat]

From Twitter

snowbadua snow badua
Wow, one of the ROOKIE ASPIRANTS is said to be asking for atleast 250K a month. Hmm...
35 minutes ago

I wonder, Lassiter? Lutz?LOL. He should not join the draft and stick with the SBP program if they want to have atleast 250K salary. :)

[michie]

From Twitter
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1 high scoring off guard might be shipped to a new team soon. This team is a certified championship caliber.
1 minute ago

Dondon (Air 21) to Petron (Governor's Cup Champions)

any more guesses?

[DS_42]

From Twitter

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Wow, one of the ROOKIE ASPIRANTS is said to be asking for atleast 250K a month. Hmm...
35 minutes ago

I wonder, Lassiter? Lutz?

hmmm...Paul Lee :rolleyes:

[acklium]

Dondon (Air 21) to Petron (Governor's Cup Champions)

any more guesses?

talk n text

[Johnny A]

From Twitter
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1 high scoring off guard might be shipped to a new team soon. This team is a certified championship caliber.
1 minute ago
Can't badua just tell who is it? these blind items make him sound like cristy fermin.:D

On topic: Gary David

[Silent Killer]

James Yap? :eek:

[thecoolcat]

From Twitter
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1 high scoring off guard might be shipped to a new team soon. This team is a certified championship caliber.
1 minute ago Gary David to TNT? :eek:

[killmebusy]

caguioa to petron for jwash?

[SMBeTz]

Peter June Simon?

[Silent Killer]

snowbadua snow badua
DANNY ESPIRITU: Positive ang development ng injury ni KERBY RAYMUNDO sa US. Makakabalik siya. Yun ang magandang balita sa tawag niya kanina
1 minute ago

[Silent Killer]

caguioa to petron for jwash?

need another team since petron and BGK are sister teams.

[Silent Killer]

snowbadua snow badua
DANNY ESPIRITU: No contract extension yet for JASON CASTRO. matagal na naming naipadala ang proposal. Bahala sila dun.
1 minute ago Favorite Reply

[Joe Yabuki]

From Twitter
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1 high scoring off guard might be shipped to a new team soon. This team is a certified championship caliber.
1 minute ago

Gary D for draft picks(most likely Petron)

[Silent Killer]

From Twitter

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No ban for those who will pull out of the DRAFT. PBA agrees to allow DRAFTED GILAS to play in the FIBA ASIA CHAMPIONSHIPS on SEP 15.
1 minute ago Favorite Reply

[acklium]

From Twitter

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No ban for those who will pull out of the DRAFT. PBA agrees to allow DRAFTED GILAS to play in the FIBA ASIA CHAMPIONSHIPS on SEP 15.
1 minute ago Favorite Reply

good for them
coz if not
i will boycott the pba.

[Silent Killer]

good for them
coz if not
i will boycott the pba.

im one of those will boycott the pba.

[bognut]

snowbadua snow badua
DANNY ESPIRITU: No contract extension yet for JASON CASTRO. matagal na naming naipadala ang proposal. Bahala sila dun.
1 minute ago Favorite Reply

Now i know why Jason Castro is killing himself in the finals ei.

He should get the "Tanduay offer to DI contract" - 20 years MAX!!! :o

[ricodgame]

Gary David for Jay Washington

long overdue.

as for the rookie: it's either Lutz or Lassiter

[ricodgame]

Now i know why Jason Castro is killing himself in the finals ei.

He should get the "Tanduay offer to DI contract" - 20 years MAX!!! :o

then if MVP group will not offer him anything, it's time for Danny E to think outside of the box(philippines) - after stealing the ball twice against CP3 - I think this guy can play outside the Philippines(I believe we have discussed this in the Jason Castro thread 2-3 years back) http://forums.interbasket.net/f32/jason-castro-the-tony-parker-of-5475/

[fadzki]

then if MVP group will not offer him anything, it's time for Danny E to think outside of the box(philippines) - after stealing the ball twice against CP3 - I think this guy can play outside the Philippines(I believe we have discussed this in the Jason Castro thread 2-3 years back) http://forums.interbasket.net/f32/jason-castro-the-tony-parker-of-5475/

ABL is always an option...

[Big Ticket]

im one of those will boycott the pba.

have you done it already? seems you're still so up-to-date with the PBA developments...it's already off-season...

[Joe Yabuki]

ABL is always an option...

I doubt anyone in ABL can match the perks that is offered to him by MVP.... unless... they douse him with "beer" :D

[kaiziken_pinas]

im one of those will boycott the pba.

yeah right.:D

Like its gonna spell any difference for the PBA if you do

[acklium]

Now i know why Jason Castro is killing himself in the finals ei.

He should get the "Tanduay offer to DI contract" - 20 years MAX!!! :o

i taught you said tanduay ice :D:D

if only this guy can have a consistent shot from 3s and an automatic j
then lets throw this guy in china, Europe or even d league.

[Silent Killer]

have you done it already? seems you're still so up-to-date with the PBA developments...it's already off-season...

yap. i don't watch the games that much unlike before. i just give the latest happening in the pba thru twitter. :)

[Silent Killer]

Twitter mode:

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LA TENORIO: Hindi totoo yung trade sa amin ni MARK CAGUIOA. Grabe naman yun kung ang kapalitan ko isang MARK CAGUIOA. Ang swerte ko naman.
3 minutes ago Favorite Reply

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ATTN CURRENT PBA TEAM OWNERS: RED BULL MANAGEMENT admits that stint in the PBA made them the top selling energy drink brand for 5 years.
1 hour ago

caguioa to alaska for la tenorio? lolz :p

thepbaologist D'PBAologist-uknowme
Looks like @japethaguilar09 will b playing for TNT starting in d 11-12 phil cup.
14 minutes ago

WOW tnt gets beef up. and japeth will learn more under tnt if ever. but hoping toroman will stay here in PHL and coach the nationals.

[Servinio]

Edmundo "Junel" Baculi will soon be named as the new head coach of Barako Bull (the former Air 21 Express) starting the 2011-2012 season.

[Cryotek]

Edmundo "Junel" Baculi will soon be named as the new head coach of Barako Bull (the former Air 21 Express) starting the 2011-2012 season.

So Air21 has bought not only Barako Bull's franchise, but Chua's whole company?:confused::rolleyes:

[Johnny A]

PBA will have imports with unlimited height next year. I'd say this is welcome news not only for the fans but for the players' development as well. This is a long time coming. The year 1990 saw the first pba team to compete in the Asian games where they finished second. Our players were overwhelmed by the sight of taller chinese. Playing against 6'5" and below imports made them stagnate. Next time i hope to see two strong foreign teams in the pba, like teams from turkey or australia.

[ricodgame]

So Air21 has bought not only Barako Bull's franchise, but Chua's whole company?:confused::rolleyes:

It's kinda funny. I read this change of name before.

It is like, Shopinas(Lina) bought the Barako Bull(Chua)
while Air 21(Lina) will be changed to Barako Bull(Chua) or maybe soon to be SMC team

[Silent Killer]

Twitter Mode: Rumorville

snowbadua snow badua
Kilala ko na ang type ni COACH JONG sa DRAFT. Ayoko muna sabihin. Hehehe
36 minutes ago

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FILL in the blanks. "Pumili kayo sa amin, pwera lang si _____ at si _____ at si ___, Kukunin namin sa inyo si ____ o kaya si ____ o si ____"
35 minutes ago Favorite Reply


lolz fill in the blanks :p not even a clue hehe :D

HoopTalk
hooptalk918 HoopTalk
......pero ibang team ang nlagay ni player sa autograph nya, di ung team nya! Diumano, ito daw ang team na susunod nyang paglalaruan.. Hmmm.
48 minutes ago

HoopTalk
hooptalk918 HoopTalk
May Pba player, ngxpire na contract sa tm ña. Nkita ng fan sa isang pasyalan, nilapitan @ nagpaautograph.. Nilagay nito name ña, jersey#....
49 minutes ago

[Cryotek]

HoopTalk
hooptalk918 HoopTalk
......pero ibang team ang nlagay ni player sa autograph nya, di ung team nya! Diumano, ito daw ang team na susunod nyang paglalaruan.. Hmmm.
48 minutes ago

HoopTalk
hooptalk918 HoopTalk
May Pba player, ngxpire na contract sa tm ña. Nkita ng fan sa isang pasyalan, nilapitan @ nagpaautograph.. Nilagay nito name ña, jersey#....
49 minutes ago


It might be Dondon!!:p

[mab]

It might be Dondon!!:p

same here.. my guess was DDH7

[driller]

It might be Dondon!!:p

My big guess is Kerby Reymundo to BGK!:rolleyes:

[driller]

Speculation...
01. BARANGAY GINEBRA KINGS
a. New Player/s(Draft Day)-NEW BIG MAN
b. Trade/s
c With new H. Coach(RJ)?

02. BMEG LLAMADOS
a. New Player/s(Draft Day)
b. Trade/s
c. With new H. Coach(Jong/Siot)?

03. PETRON
a. New Player/s(Draft Day)-Gary D.?
b. Trade/s

:cool:

[potz05]

One of the reasons how SBP could have done better-- did they believe that players will just play without a contract? The best they could have done is offer a short-term contract just for Wuhan?

Under estimating a players need.. I think now a days it's NOT really about how big can you give but how long can you give.

[potz05]

Dondon (Air 21) to Petron (Governor's Cup Champions)

any more guesses?

Hahah..pretty much money in the bank? :D

[Aqua Light]

My big guess is Kerby Reymundo to BGK!:rolleyes:

I vote with your guess and Miller back to BGK :D

just a guess:p

[potz05]

Pumaren eyes free agents, top draftees for Shopinas

http://www.philstar.com/thedeanscorner/articlescontent.aspx?articleid=719923&publicationsubcategoryid=69

MANILA, Philippines - It will be a long rebuilding process for Shopinas, formerly Barako Bull, but Clickers coach Franz Pumaren said yesterday he’s optimistic the direction set by team governor Sheila Lina is the path to a bright future in the PBA.

“Rome wasn’t built in a day,” said Pumaren who signed a guaranteed three-year contract with Shopinas, an e-commerce marketing company owned by businessman Bert Lina. “We’re starting from scratch. We’ll try to get the best available talent in the draft on Sunday then we’ll invite free agents for tryouts. We’ll also look at players with whom we own the right of first refusal. There will be little time for us to form a team. We’ll probably get everyone together by the third week of September then the season begins on Oct. 2.”

What convinced Pumaren to take the job was Lina’s commitment to build a competitive team. “If Ms. Sheila weren’t sincere, she wouldn’t have offered a guaranteed three-year contract,” said Pumaren. “I think a lady governor in the PBA is pretty cool and exciting. It’s a breath of fresh air for the PBA. She honestly admitted she knows little about basketball so I’ll be given a free hand in running the team. I’m very honored by her trust and confidence. I’ll do my best to live up to her expectations.”

Pumaren, 48, said twice before, he was offered to become a head coach in the PBA but declined because it would’ve meant taking over from a close friend. “I’m not the type to undercut anyone,” he said. “I prayed that someday, the opportunity will come and the timing will be right. It took about a week to finalize my contract with Shopinas. For me, it’s not about the money. It’s more about recognition and respect. Ms Sheila gave me an offer that took into account my experience and accomplishments. She’s very supportive of our plans to rebuild.”

Pumaren said management isn’t in a rush to form a championship contender. “Of course, we want to be competitive right away but we also have to be patient,” he continued. “We want to play an exciting and fast-paced game. We’re looking for fresh legs and mobile players. We’re looking for players who can shoot the ball and score. Because we’re in the rebuilding process, we won’t prioritize getting role players. Complementary players will come later. At La Salle, we were known for our pressing defense. We’ll try to carry that over to the PBA but that’s not all we’ll do.”

Pumaren was La Salle head coach for 12 years, capturing six UAAP titles. He was also Mobiline playing assistant coach and assistant coach with Pop Cola and Sta. Lucia Realty. As a player, Pumaren saw action for San Miguel Beer and Mobiline for 12 seasons up to 1997, averaging 7.4 points in 531 games.

Pumaren said he’s now assembling his coaching staff. Expected to join his crew are his former La Salle assistants Tonichi Yturri and Jack Santiago. He has also invited two PBA assistant coaches from other teams to move to Shopinas.

“I’d like to bring in guys who are already familiar with my style and system but I’m also hoping to enlist a new guy, someone who can suggest new ideas,” said Pumaren. “This is an exciting challenge for us. Ms. Sheila is serious about building a competitive team. She wants continuity and won’t agree to shuffle players in and out.”

Pumaren said in Sunday’s draft, Shopinas has the fifth overall pick. “I’ve spoken with Jvee (Casio) about his teammates,” he said. “I think Jvee will be the first overall pick so I wanted to find out from him about the other Gilas players. I’m hoping by the time we choose, the player we want is still available. We’re looking at a scorer who can play the three position.”

Pumaren admitted that he’s considering to recruit his former La Salle star RenRen Ritualo, now an unrestricted free agent. Another former Archer standout in his radar is Don Allado whose B-Meg contract is expiring.

“While we’re looking for fresh legs, we’re open to signing up veterans for their experience,” he said. “I know other teams are looking at RenRen. The former Barako franchise has rights to several players like Ken Bono, Jojo Duncil, Paolo Hubalde, Marvin Cruz and Mark Andaya. So we’ll evaluate those players and make decisions after the draft.”

Pumaren disclosed that in yesterday’s PBA Board of Governors meeting, Shopinas asked for concessions such as three rookie direct hires, a protect 10 dispersal draft and a one-time draft of players from sister team Air 21 (now Barako Bull). “Technically, we are an existing franchise but effectively, we are an expansion team,” said Pumaren. “So we’re hoping the PBA allows certain concessions so that we can hasten our rebuilding process. I think it’s not only beneficial to our franchise but also to the league because we want to be competitive right in our first year.”

Pumaren revealed that the new Shopinas manager is Jovy Saddul and the team colors will be yellow, blue and red.

[durden_tyler]

Pumaren disclosed that in yesterday’s PBA Board of Governors meeting, Shopinas asked for concessions such as three rookie direct hires, a protect 10 dispersal draft and a one-time draft of players from sister team Air 21 (now Barako Bull). “Technically, we are an existing franchise but effectively, we are an expansion team,” said Pumaren. “So we’re hoping the PBA allows certain concessions so that we can hasten our rebuilding process. I think it’s not only beneficial to our franchise but also to the league because we want to be competitive right in our first year.”

i hope the PBA gives the concessions. On condition that they won't sell players anymore :D

On a more serious note, i think with a face like Pumaren out there it gives an aura that the team is serious in rebuilding then contending. i hope it becomes a reality as a more competitive league is of course, better in the long run.

[potz05]

i hope the PBA gives the concessions. On condition that they won't sell players anymore :D

On a more serious note, i think with a face like Pumaren out there it gives an aura that the team is serious in rebuilding then contending. i hope it becomes a reality as a more competitive league is of course, better in the long run.

That's what I was hoping for either. I hope they're serious.

Added the fact that PBA should at least add 2 or 4 more teams if possible. Though I think the scheduling of games would a be a problem.

[Silent Killer]

Twitter Rumorville/News: :D

snowbadua snow badua
This team's MUTT and JEFF tandem reportedly wants to jump ship. "To seek greener pasture." Hahaha Interesting cliche'
2 hours ago Favorite Reply

snow badua
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"Excited na ko to COACH this new BARAKO BULL team. Can't wait to see WILLIE MILLER & DONDON HONTIVEROS play together."
2 hours ago


hooptalk918 HoopTalk
RT @Paul_Artadi16 Junel Baculi is the new coach of air21/barako :)
3 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply


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MARK CAGUIOA is untouchable. Trust me on that.
43 minutes ago

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@
@CalvinVhenteuno TNT pa rin si CASTRO. Subject for renewal lang po. pero I don't think hindi siya irerenew ng TEXTERS.
1 hour ago

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@
@corpuzjason21 Wala na po si JUNTHY VALENZUELA. Retired na. Nanakit na kasi lagi ang tuhod niya when he tried it out sa MERALCO 5 months ago
1 hour ago

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@
@jhimhainne15 Madami pong trades na aasahan come draft day. or after that.
1 hour ago

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@
@PrinceMichael16 @MrWattatoe didiretsuhin na kita kasi parang hinuhuli mo ko kaso halata ka. Wala sa traidng block sina JYAP, MC47 at GDAVID
54 minutes ago Favorite Reply

[donno]

Speculation...
01. BARANGAY GINEBRA KINGS
a. New Player/s(Draft Day)-NEW BIG MAN
b. Trade/s
c With new H. Coach(RJ)?

02. BMEG LLAMADOS
a. New Player/s(Draft Day)
b. Trade/s
c. With new H. Coach(Jong/Siot)?

03. PETRON
a. New Player/s(Draft Day)-Gary D.?
b. Trade/s

:cool:

is it Robert Jaworski? he watched Game 7 last Sunday. actually, i was a bit surprised when i saw him attend a PBA game and his appearance is courtesy of SMC. does it mean that he's ready to bury the hatchet with the SMC people?

[Silent Killer]

From Twitter: :D

FireQuinito Fire Quinito
Naalala ko joke ni @jarongenota: #9 sa draft ang Ginebra, eh baka wala nang guard, kaya baka mag-pass sila ng maaga - bit.ly/pBp7Wj
14 minutes ago

LOLZ :p

[Silent Killer]

From Twitter

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RAIN OR SHINE has extended 90% of its players with expiring contracts.
7 minutes ago

[potz05]

From Twitter

snowbadua snow badua
RAIN OR SHINE has extended 90% of its players with expiring contracts.
7 minutes ago

Even Uyloan? :D

[Silent Killer]

Even Uyloan? :D

i dunno but seriously i have hard time pronouncing his last name :p :D

[ricodgame]

i hope the PBA gives the concessions. On condition that they won't sell players anymore :D

On a more serious note, i think with a face like Pumaren out there it gives an aura that the team is serious in rebuilding then contending. i hope it becomes a reality as a more competitive league is of course, better in the long run.

I will be a fan of Shopinas if they will not sell their players, like what Barako Bull / Air 21 did.

(I am huge fan of Purefoods - Patrimonio days, then Asi - Mobiline/TNT days - then last 2 season Barako Bull - until they sold Isip and Thiele - now I am rooting for TNT but not a big fan anymore)

[Silent Killer]

From Twitter

FireQuinito Fire Quinito
Franz Pumaren's Shopinas coaching staff will include Jack Santiago, Tonichi Yturri, and Cholo Villanueva. Full story in a bit.
1 minute ago

too early for cholo villanueva to be a assistant coach? this guy can play.

[capitantiago]

From Twitter

FireQuinito Fire Quinito
Franz Pumaren's Shopinas coaching staff will include Jack Santiago, Tonichi Yturri, and Cholo Villanueva. Full story in a bit.
1 minute ago

too early for cholo villanueva to be a assistant coach? this guy can play.

so where do you want him to play? he's already overage to play in the d-league. well, he can play in the abl. :p

[donno]

Twitter Rumorville/News: :D

snowbadua snow badua
This team's MUTT and JEFF tandem reportedly wants to jump ship. "To seek greener pasture." Hahaha Interesting cliche'
2 hours ago Favorite Reply

it's LA Tenorio and Sonny Thoss of Alaska. no surprise there as their business is already in the "red".

[michie]

From Twitter

FireQuinito Fire Quinito
Franz Pumaren's Shopinas coaching staff will include Jack Santiago, Tonichi Yturri, and Cholo Villanueva. Full story in a bit.
1 minute ago

too early for cholo villanueva to be a assistant coach? this guy can play.

He brought in his La Salle men who could understand his system. :D
I would look forward to see Shopinas play...

[Jordan Bruiseter]

same here.. my guess was DDH7

Doesn't he need a year before he can go back to Petron?

[driller]

Speculation...
01. BARANGAY GINEBRA KINGS
a. New Player/s(Draft Day)-NEW BIG MAN
b. Trade/s
c With new H. Coach(RJ)?

02. BMEG LLAMADOS
a. New Player/s(Draft Day)
b. Trade/s
c. With new H. Coach(Jong/Siot)?

03. PETRON
a. New Player/s(Draft Day)-Gary D.?
b. Trade/s

:cool:

Petron have started to make sure that they will be even more competitive for the coming 37th Season by working on a deal that would take former two-time MVP Willie Miller to Petron.
________________________________
uhhh! its miller to Petron...why?
i wonder why they like this player...

[bognut]

Petron have started to make sure that they will be even more competitive for the coming 37th Season by working on a deal that would take former two-time MVP Willie Miller to Petron.
________________________________
uhhh! its miller to Petron...why?
i wonder why they like this player...

with miller they'll be competitive all right!

Up to the last two minutes... And then choke.

[Cryotek]

From Twitter

FireQuinito Fire Quinito
Franz Pumaren's Shopinas coaching staff will include Jack Santiago, Tonichi Yturri, and Cholo Villanueva. Full story in a bit.
1 minute ago

too early for cholo villanueva to be a assistant coach? this guy can play.

The coaching staff is the PBA version of DLSU in UAAP...how about ADMU--TNT's coachings staff!:rolleyes:

[driller]

with miller they'll be competitive all right!

Up to the last two minutes... And then choke.

ha ha...petron @ 8th pick, getting a younger player like ababou is more better, than getting Lolo Miller. :p

[Silent Killer]

so where do you want him to play? he's already overage to play in the d-league. well, he can play in the abl. :p

he can still play in the PBA. he's a shooter under coach pumaren.

[durden_tyler]

TWO-TIME Most Valuable Player Willie Miller could be making a quick return to the fold of the San Miguel Corp.

A top official of the SMC group yesterday told Malaya Business Insight they are close to sealing a deal with Barako Bull (formerly Air21) for the services of Miller.

The official, who requested anonymity, said the trade package has already been presented to Barako management and a deal should be struck within the next few days. The papers will then be submitted to Commissioner Chito Salud for final approval.

"Isang player at saka maybe ‘yung pick namin sa draft," the official said.

Petron owns the No. 8 pick in the draft set at Robinson’s Place-Manila this Sunday while Barako already has the rights on Nos. 3 and 10.

Miller, the only guard to have won the league’s highest individual award twice, was traded by Ginebra to the Express for KG Canaleta and a 2012 draft pick last month.

Instead of a return to the Kings, however, corporation management is thinking of inserting Miller into newly-crowned Governors Cup champion Petron Blaze.

"Willie’s experience is sure to help Petron’s backcourt," said the insider. "And since he’s a combo guard, he could either spell (Alex) Cabagnot or Denok (Miranda) at the point or he could play alongside either as the 2-guard."

The decision, he added, was arrived at after the Boosters beat the TNT Tropang Texters in Game 7 of their title series last Sunday.

"Miller can fill in the void to be created by the absence of (import) Anthony Grundy," he said. "Grundy was truly instrumental in the victory and nobody could fill in his shoes locally except Miller, who is a true combo guard himself."

Ginebra was forced to trade the 34-year-old since the 2002 and 2007 MVP could not get enough playing time in the backcourt-heavy Kings, who already have the likes of Jayjay Helterbrand, Mark Caguioa and Mike Cortez, aside from the up-and-coming Rob Labagala and John Wilson.

Source: NOLI CORTEZ, Business Insight Malaya

Po ta. May hangover pa nga ko sa championship eh bad news na agad. (Trans: Don't do it Petron. :D)

(Then again, i have no problem if he sees 10-to-15-minutes per game only :D

[Silent Killer]

Po ta. May hangover pa nga ko sa championship eh bad news na agad. (Trans: Don't do it Petron. :D)

(Then again, i have no problem if he sees 10-to-15-minutes per game only :D

bad trade :p and miller hasnt played a second with barako(air21) since the trade lolz :D :p

[killmebusy]

bad trade :p and miller hasnt played a second with barako(air21) since the trade lolz :D :p

miller can still play...as long as he sits out the entire 4th qtr..hehe :p

[reamily]

Told ya Franz isn't joking about bringing La Salle guys I wonder how Mike and Macmac play against shopinas hahaha i can see them manhandling this young team

[michie]

Po ta. May hangover pa nga ko sa championship eh bad news na agad. (Trans: Don't do it Petron. :D)

(Then again, i have no problem if he sees 10-to-15-minutes per game only :D

retain the pick and get a young SG...

[durden_tyler]

retain the pick and get a young SG...

While initially i thought this was a bad pick-up, another poster (not in this forum) commented that acquiring another young guy (#8) pick would mean more "projects" like Guevarra and/or Baclao. i guess if you put it that way i think this move is tolerable-- as long as they plan to develop the mentioned young players.

[reamily]

The rookie you wanted (for petron fans) would be in good hands in (Air 21-Barako)/shopinas he will be given all the playing time in the world:D

Alaska will juice all their 2nd round picks (for trades or so) as i do not see them retaining all the players having so much excess players in the roster

[michie]

While initially i thought this was a bad pick-up, another poster (not in this forum) commented that acquiring another young guy (#8) pick would mean more "projects" like Guevarra and/or Baclao. i guess if you put it that way i think this move is tolerable-- as long as they plan to develop the mentioned young players.

I get your point :D I also thought of it that way at first.

[silverwing]

bad trade :p and miller hasnt played a second with barako(air21) since the trade lolz :D :p

barako(air21) is really a puppet of SMB!, now Shopinas will be a potential second farming team of SMB. rofl.

[Jordan Bruiseter]

Told ya Franz isn't joking about bringing La Salle guys I wonder how Mike and Macmac play against shopinas hahaha i can see them manhandling this young team

That is, if Franz's bid for Macmac does not come into fruition. Current talk is he's willing to trade the fifth pick for Macmac.

Bringing in Renren is almost certain, and he's also setting his sights on Joseph Yeo. The rub with the Macmac-fifth pick deal is that BMEG is contesting that they still own the fifth pick (due to some "gentleman's" agreement in the past with the old Barako team). Worst case, the fifth pick might be given up for Allado, who'll join Renren and Yeo to form the new team's core.

Rumored Top 5 picks:

1. Casio
2. potential surprise of the draft - RoS is strongly considering Paul Lee
3. Lassiter
4.-5. Toss-up between Baracael and Lutz

[reamily]

so if the barako continue all along BMEG will contest to get that top pick so called selling este gentlemans agreement:cool:

interesting if RG and meralco would give up Macmac for potentially Baracael or lutz as you can say the best Talent in the draft is paul Lee:D

[donspark47]

Top Rookies in the pool...

1. JV CASIO
2. PAUL LEE
3. MARCIO LASSITER
4. MAC BARACAEL
5. MARK BARROCA
6. CHRIS LUTZ
7. JASON BALLESTEROS
8. DYLAN ABABOU
9. REIL CERVANTES
10. KEN ACIBAR
11. ALLEIN MALIKSI
12. ERICK SALAMAT
13. ARIEL MEPANA
14. PAMBOY RAYMUNDO
15. JULIUS PASCULADO
16. MAGI SISON
17. GILBERT BULAWAN
18. JAMES MARTINEZ
19. BRIAN ILAD
20. MARK CAGOCO
21. CHRISTOPHER CONCEPCION

:p:p:p

[Jay P. Mercado]

Rumored Top 5 picks:

1. Casio
2. potential surprise of the draft - RoS is strongly considering Paul Lee
3. Lassiter
4.-5. Toss-up between Baracael and Lutz

Believe it or not, Yeng Guiao picking Paul Lee won't be a surprise, at least for me. We all know that Lee is handled by former UE Coach Lawrence Chongson. And we all are aware that Chongson is aiming for Lee to be at least a Top 3 pick in the draft. Lee will not be able to achieve that had the top 3 picks come from either MVP or RSA teams.

And we all know that Chongson is a bonafide member of the BCAP, an organization that Guiao is actively involved alongside Chito Narvasa and Alfrancis Chua. Hence, Guiao picking Lee won't be a shocker - I'd even be more surprised if Guiao picks another person other than Lee in the draft. My best guess is that Guiao will try to transform Lee as his "Willie Miller at Red Bull" with ROS.

[Big Ticket]

Top Rookies in the pool...

1. JV CASIO
2. PAUL LEE
3. MARCIO LASSITER
4. MAC BARACAEL
5. MARK BARROCA
6. CHRIS LUTZ
7. JASON BALLESTEROS
8. DYLAN ABABOU
9. REIL CERVANTES
10. KEN ACIBAR
11. ALLEIN MALIKSI
12. ERICK SALAMAT
13. ARIEL MEPANA
14. PAMBOY RAYMUNDO
15. JULIUS PASCULADO
16. MAGI SISON
17. GILBERT BULAWAN
18. JAMES MARTINEZ
19. BRIAN ILAD
20. MARK CAGOCO
21. CHRISTOPHER CONCEPCION

:p:p:p

is it just a coincidence that the rankings are the same as this:

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/2011-pba-mock-draft-version-1-0

[Jordan Bruiseter]

Possibility that Barako will give Miller for Pennisi.

Now that's being a basketball journeyman, having signed for 6 of 10 teams in the league. You could make a collection of his jerseys through the years...

[Silent Killer]

From Twitter

]snowbadua snow badua
BARAKO TEAM MANAGER RAFFY CASYAO: We would like to BUILD the team AROUND WILLIE MILLER
10 minutes ago

[ricodgame]

who are the free agents this year? I believe it is the class of Gabe Norwood right?

[Silent Killer]

who are the free agents this year? I believe it is the class of Gabe Norwood right?

yap. Gabe norwoods class. including sol mercado.

[ricodgame]

yap. Gabe norwoods class. including sol mercado.

PBA doesn't have free agent drama. I think the last one is when DI signed that 15 year contract from Tanduay. (also during 90's when Patrimonio signed the 5-year offer of Pepsi Mega).

Di uso sa PBA? :confused:

[jovit moya]

the last successful transfer via free agency that i remember in the PBA was when Jeff Cariaso signed with Mobiline after Alaska's grandslam? That was Andy Seigle's rookie year.

[ricodgame]

the last successful transfer via free agency that i remember in the PBA was when Jeff Cariaso signed with Mobiline after Alaska's grandslam? That was Andy Seigle's rookie year.

After that? No more superstars being pirated by the other teams.. :(

[Cryotek]

Ginebra, B-Meg coaching staff
facing revamp
BY NOLI CORTEZ

EXPECT some changes in the coaching staffs of Ginebra and B-Meg.

No less than San Miguel Corp. president and chief executive officer Ramon S. Ang bared this last Wednesday, adding the decision will be finalized within the coming week, well ahead of the PBA’s 37th season set to start on Oct. 2.

"Pag masama ang tayo, kailangan ang konting balasa," Ang explained in a chat with sportswriters during Petron Blaze’s victory party at the SMC main office.

While coach Ato Agustin’s job is secure after steering the Boosters to the PBA Governors Cup title, the same cannot be said of Ginebra’s Jong Uichico and B-Meg rookie coach Jorge Gallent.

Ang said Siot Tanquingcen, co-head coach with Uichico, will take the lead for the Kings while the subject of who will handle the Llamados will be decided on by the giant conglomerate’s basketball operations group headed by Robert Non.

Whoever will take over, Ang added, will come from within the SMC coaching fraternity and the man replaced will be relegated to assistant.

"Basta within the family lang din. Sila-sila lang ang magpapalitan diyan at walang mawawala. Mag-ro-rotate muna sila," he stated.

Ginebra’s 34-24 win-loss record for the season was highlighted by a runner-up finish in the mid-season Commissioner’s Cup. It wound up third in the Philippine Cup and fourth in the Governors Cup.

Gallent has won many titles in the amateur ranks but could not fully bring his winning ways with injury-wracked B-Meg.

The Llamados wound up fourth in the Philippine Cup, before falling to seventh in the Commissioner’s Cup, sixth in the Governors and a 20-24 slate for the season.

Those records disappointed Ang, but he did not say so out loud, merely stating: "Sa tingin ko kasi sa tatlong (SMC) teams (in the PBA), B-Meg ang pinaka-talented.";)

http://www.malaya.com.ph/aug26/sports4.html

[thecoolcat]

snow badua (@snowbadua)
Posted Friday 26th August 2011

POWERADE finance the trip to Manila of JULIUS PASCULADOS to MANILA to join DRAFT. GOV JB BAYLON says if other teams will DRAFT him. They'll just ask for reimbursement. "Nakita namin may potential, so we helped him", says BAYLON. He currently stays at one of the TIGERS' rented units.

[Liptong]

Go julius. make all Cebuanos proud!

[potz05]

Wow, Pasculados will surely be drafted higher if ever his good showing in the rookie camp continue.

[thecoolcat]

Wow, Pasculados will surely be drafted higher if ever his good showing in the rookie camp continue.there's a big possibility for him to go high on the draft as what the Powerade people are implying. good luck kababayan.

[LikeLightning]

Go JU!

One step closer!

[potz05]

there's a big possibility for him to go high on the draft as what the Powerade people are implying. good luck kababayan.

An Alaska draft is not bad at all.. hmm.. what's his natural position? PG? or can he play combo?

[thecoolcat]

An Alaska draft is not bad at all.. hmm.. what's his natural position? PG? or can he play combo?he plays primarily as a PG as what we have seen in his videos. any team will do as long as he will be given playing minutes to develop his game.

[Liptong]

he can play both. from what i see on the video, he has good touch from the outside also, based on the reports from the rookie camp.

[potz05]

he plays primarily as a PG as what we have seen in his videos. any team will do as long as he will be given playing minutes to develop his game.

How about the D? Hah! Do you think he is in the mold of Ryan Reyes?

[killmebusy]

funny how you guys rely so much on video clips and highlights...let's wait first for him to play a full game or a couple games at least. one thing about video clips and highlights is that they will never show the weakness of a player (defense, stamina, inconsistency, etc)...also they are only short. if we can get links to his games then that would be helpful but relying on youtube highlights ain't gonna bear much. i hope he plays well in the rookie camp though so he can get drafted higher.

[Silent Killer]

From Twitter

snowbadua snow badua
SNOW to RAFFY CASYAO: Na-offer daw sa inyo si MACMAC for 3rd pick? RC: Wala naman. JAY LLANOS DEE & JUNEL BACULI: Wala. Walang ganyan.

snowbadua snow badua
SNOW to BARAKO's RAFFY CASYAO: Maraming offer sa 3rd pick nyo? RC: Oo, pero we're keeping it & our 10th pick. We want to improve our line-up
9 hours ago

coachot Chot Reyes
To all those asking...Jason Castro ain't going anywhere. He will be renewed. For 3 more yrs, if I'm not mistaken
9 hours ago

snowbadua snow badua
BARAKO BULL MANAGEMENT will negotiate tomorrow morning for DONDON HONTIVEROS' contract extension. Yes, BARAKO wants a CHAMPIONSHIP soon.
10 hours ago

[potz05]

funny how you guys rely so much on video clips and highlights...let's wait first for him to play a full game or a couple games at least. one thing about video clips and highlights is that they will never show the weakness of a player (defense, stamina, inconsistency, etc)...also they are only short. if we can get links to his games then that would be helpful but relying on youtube highlights ain't gonna bear much. i hope he plays well in the rookie camp though so he can get drafted higher.

He already did though still monitoring..



New faces catch attention in rookie camp

MANILA, Philippines - Julias Pascualado scored nine of his 11 points in the third quarter as Barako Bull-Red rallied to beat Rain or Shine-White, 76-72, in the PBA rookie camp at the Ynares Sports Arena in Pasig City last Wednesday.

Pascualado’s solid game impressed Powerade coach Bo Perasol and Alaska assistant mentor Luigi Trillo.

“He has the skill. He could be an option,” said Perasol, whose team holds the No. 1 draft rights in Sunday’s Annual Draft at Robinsons Place Manila.

“He did well. He’ll be a darkhorse in the draft,” said Trillo of the 24-year old guard from Cebu City who grew up in the US.

Former UE Warrior guard Paul Lee, Allein Maliksi, Ariel Mepana and Reil Cervantes, who led Rain or Shine-White with 20 points, also made an impression.

Players of Smart-Gilas Pilipinas, however, failed to see action.

JV Casio, a potential No.1 pick, and teammates Mark Barroca, Dylan Ababou, Marcio Lassiter and Christopher Lutz showed up at the game facility with Serbian coach Rajko Toroman but didn’t join the scrimmage.

“We are here partly because we want to see them (Smart Gilas players) play,” said B-Meg coach Jorge Galent.

Except for Barroca, Gallent said the other Gilas players are still uncertain about joining the draft.

“Mark assured he’s joining (the draft),” Gallent said. Barroca was Gallent’s former player while coaching Harbour Centre in the now defunct Philippine Basketball League.

Players who intend to back out of the PBA Annual Draft have until today to notify the Office of the Commissioner.


http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=720629&publicationSubCategoryId=69&keyword=

[potz05]

After win, Petron wants to improve roster for next tilt

MANILA, Philippines — Petron Blaze coach Ato Agustin said their bid for PBA back-to-back championships hinges largely on whether they can get key players in the trade or during the Annual Rookie Draft on Sunday.

One of the players he is eyeing is former Petron (San Miguel Beer) star Dondon Hontiveros who he said can ably provide additional firepower to the team following injuries to several stars, including Jay Washington.

He added that Hontiveros can be of great help at the shooting guard spot, a position occupied by import Anthony Grundy during the Boosters’ championship campaign in the just-concluded Governors’ Cup where they stunned the ‘grand slam’ seeking Talk ’N Text Tropang Texters in seven games.

“Malaking bagay kung makukuha namin si Dondon uli,” said Agustin of the 6-foot-2 Hontiveros during Petron’s victory party – the team’s 19th championship – Wednesday at the San Miguel Corp. compound in Ortigas.

“Kailangan kasi namin palakasin yung shooting guard, ito kasi yung position ni Grundy. Kung mawala s’ya, we need a two-guard na makaka- contribute,” added Agustin, who will also have to let go of Lordy Tugade and Jojo Duncil as they will rejoin their original team ShopPinas.


http://mb.com.ph/articles/332081/after-win-petron-wants-improve-roster-next-tilt

[Silent Killer]

He already did though still monitoring..

lolz, they havent see the gilas boys play? :p :D

[potz05]

lolz, they havent see the gilas boys play? :p :D

Yeah, they came there but didn't play. :D

[potz05]

From Twitter

snowbadua snow badua
BARAKO BULL MANAGEMENT will negotiate tomorrow morning for DONDON HONTIVEROS' contract extension. Yes, BARAKO wants a CHAMPIONSHIP soon.
10 hours ago

I won't be surprise if DH will not be back with them. Haha.. Since he is a free agent it would will be really tempting to go back to Petron given the circumstances and the way Coach Ato said that he really wants him back. :D:cool:

[thecoolcat]

lolz, they havent see the gilas boys play? :p :Dwhy do they need to see the gilas players play in the rookie camp when in fact pba teams have seen them played against PBA players already. :D:D:D

[durden_tyler]

why do they need to see the gilas players play in the rookie camp when in fact pba teams have seen them played against PBA players already. :D:D:D

Well, maybe they need confirmation :D

On a more serious note, when making a pick you really have to analyse all angles and possibilities as you don't want to waste that pick (even on Gilas players) as there'd be issues individually and how it would work with your current system.

Say for Casio, if you were the scout/team manager wouldn't you want to see if indeed he's 100% healthy? Or for Barroca, would you get him if you're more of a half-court set type of team? etc etc.

[potz05]

why do they need to see the gilas players play in the rookie camp when in fact pba teams have seen them played against PBA players already. :D:D:D

Ah I think there would be difference because they are not going to play in a system they are use to in the rookie camp so they can play the kind of game they want in the rookie camp which I think coaches and scouts would like to see.

[Silent Killer]

why do they need to see the gilas players play in the rookie camp when in fact pba teams have seen them played against PBA players already. :D:D:D

you got it coolcat. that's what i meant :D

[thecoolcat]

you got it coolcat. that's what i meant :D just give the gilas player some rest and for those who will be retained to heal the injuries and be ready for the big battle ahead.

[Big Ticket]

snowbadua snow badua

BMEG RECLAIMS 5th pick from SHOPINAS for an ACTIVE player OR 2 FUTURE picks

[reamily]

Shopinas is really MVP's conduit team;)

[reamily]

So shopinas would build a team around Ritualo Allado and prefereably Maliksi gimme a break Philtel camp shold squeak a way so that their 7th pick would go to shopinas:D

[ricodgame]

Shopinas is really MVP's conduit team;)

Lasalista is helping an Atenista? :D

[thecoolcat]

Lasalista is helping an Atenista? :D i doubt

[toikins]

question:
How did Julius Pasculado became eligible for the draft?
What local team did he play for?
That guys is good.

[thecoolcat]

Twitter: DennisPrincipe
JRQuinahan and draft pick for @DougKramer44 & Vanlandingham?! If true, both teams will benefit. Bagay mga players sa pupuntahang coaches ;)

[thecoolcat]

Twitter : snowbadua
Trade on table right now. Waiting for COMMISSIONER SALUD's go signal.


Sino sino kaya ang nasa trading block? exciting. :)

[Jay P. Mercado]

Twitter: DennisPrincipe
JRQuinahan and draft pick for @DougKramer44 & Vanlandingham?! If true, both teams will benefit. Bagay mga players sa pupuntahang coaches ;)

So Guiao's interested in bringing back his Porkchop Duo of Beau Belga and JR Quinahan in his fold. Typical of Guiao to want a big man capable of making the outside shot. I'm surprised though that he's willing to give up Kramer, a player who has flourished in Guiao's system. This won't be the first time, if ever, that Kramer will be traded away by Guiao. When the coach was still handling Air 21, he traded Kramer to Rain Or Shine. This, after Kramer just made a monster 20-20 performance with the Express. And when Guiao started handling ROS, Kramer proved himself again through timely jumpers from the outside and his intensity underneath the boards.

For Guiao to win an AFC title though, he would need the services of a marquee player who can take the lead role at crunch time. I can see ROS winning a title under Guiao in the future, not unlike what he did for Red Bull before. But this would be in an import-laced conference. His partnership with Andy Jao has done wonders before at Red Bull and part of that magic is their ability to get topnotch imports. Of course, their import agent, Sam Unera, has already passed away, but it shouldn't stop this tandem to continue getting imports that will dominate (AZ Reid was a good start for them).

But without a take charge guy in offense, Guiao will find difficulty winning an AFC, especially when ranged against top local teams like Petron, TNT, BGK, Alaska and B-Meg. Gabe Norwood is a fine specimen of a player but he will never be a dominant guy as he's too unselfish. Note that Guiao never won a AFC with Red Bull as his coaching style is for the individual to submit himself to the system - a system of sharing the ball. Which also explains why Red Bull never won a MVP award from its roster - but - their players are also the most marketable.