PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. II)

[neo]

I heard from the grapevine that Samigue Eman, and possibly his agent and the Alaska management might get sued for tampering a live and legally binding contract since Eman's contract hasn't expired and rescinded.

SMB might get a case here.

His agent should have done his assignment. He is paid for that.

The Alaska management might need some spanking for their incredulous and irresponsible action.

At the end of the day, a contract is a contract is a contract. And all the stipulations provided therein should be followed.


as far as i know, and as barrios said in the above article,when a player is in contract, whether one is injured or in the reserve list, his contract is binding and would get his salaries and other benefits. but being in the reserve list means becoming eligible for other teams to pick you up. in the 90s, the style fo some team is putting their excess but still valuable players in the injury list although they are not injured so as to make them ineligible for pick-up or signing by other teams.

[capitantiago]

take the case of ardy larong.
he only played for one season for purefoods even if he had a two-year contract. purefoods bought out the last year of the contract with the stipulation that he won't play for any other team. that's why he only got to play, for slr, after a year from the buy out.

which i believe make sense on the owner's standpoint. why? you have already paid that player, giving him an unearned revenue. how about compensating them back?

the kume is not a lawyer. and he may not be aware of the legal implications of tampering, fraud and piracy. but then again, he is barrios.

true, when he said that there is cut off to prevent giving playoff-bound teams undue advantage.

[neo]

take the case of ardy larong.
he only played for one season for purefoods even if he had a two-year contract. purefoods bought out the last year of the contract with the stipulation that he won't play for any other team. that's why he only got to play, for slr, after a year from the buy out.

which i believe make sense on the owner's standpoint. why? you have already paid that player, giving him an unearned revenue. how about compensating them back?

the kume is not a lawyer. and he may not be aware of the legal implications of tampering, fraud and piracy. but then again, he is barrios.

true, when he said that there is cut off to prevent giving playoff-bound teams undue advantage.


that's an entirely different case. as far as players who are in the reserve list goes, barrios is right on the money.

[capitantiago]

that's an entirely different case. as far as players who are in the reserve list goes, barrios is right on the money.

we'll see how this pans out.
SMB might take the MVP/Ateneo/San Beda route, TRO and permanent injunction here and there. hehehe

[neo]

we'll see how this pans out.
SMB might take the MVP/Ateneo/San Beda route, TRO and permanent injunction here and there. hehehe

i heard that smb is not really questionning the signing of eman by alaska per se but rather the signing was done after a trade involving smb and bgk and ginebra involving eman was at work and eman, according to smb, has knowledge of this. some sources even say that the trade already occured but alaska's signing of eman was first reported and submitted to the pba comm.office for approval. hence, the possible technicality concern.

[astig pinoy]

Air21 shoots for lifting of trade ban with Texters
2/26/2010 | PBA | 0 comments »

source: gmanews.tv

Air21 (formerly Burger King) has requested the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) board to lift the trade restriction on the Express and the Talk ‘N Text Tropang Texters since both teams are considered as sister squads.

The Express carried the Burger King name when it competed in the Philippine Cup where they only managed to enter the wildcard phase of the season-opening tournament. Both are owned by the Lina Group of Companies of businessman/sportsman Bert Lina.

Aside from Lina, Burger King is co-owned by several stakeholders that include PBA chairman and Air21 team manager Lito Alvarez, Manny V. Pangilinan and Ricky Vargas of Smart Communications, and Wilson Young of Basic Holdings Corporation.

Pangilinan owns the Tropang Texters with Vargas sitting as the PBA board representative.

The PBA prevents sister teams to directly trade to each other to maintain fair play so they won’t monopolize the talented players within their ranks. That’s why sister teams, like San Miguel and Ginebra, need a conduit or third team to complete the trade.

But this coming conference, with the team now carrying the name of a company solely owned by the Lina Group, Alvarez is bringing up his request to the commissioner that trade restrictions directly to the Tropang Texters be lifted.

"I believe this is just a commissioner matter and I’m confident that my request will be granted," Alvarez said.

But PBA commissioner Sonny Barrios told GMANews.TV that he cannot decide on the issue alone and the case needs board approval.

"In fairness to Mr. Alvarez, he was the one who volunteered to the board that Burger King, which has investors coming from Talk ‘N Text, be not allowed to trade directly to Talk ‘N Text," said Barrios. "I think he can write a request through me, but it will be the board who will decide on the matter."

But if he will have it his way, Barrios believes Air21 and Talk ‘N Text can still not trade directly owing to the fact that people from Talk ‘N Text has a share in one of the companies of theLina Group.

"Mr. Pangilinan and Mr. Vargas have an investment in one of the companies of the Lina Group that is why I believe they cannot trade players," said Barrios. "Still, that’s just how I see it, I am not a voting member and I will bring this matter up to the board. I see this case as a board matter."

Purefoods board governor and PBA vice chairman Rene Pardo said in a text message that “they will look into the ownership of Air21 first."

"If we see no problem with that then that’s OK," said Pardo.

Coca-Cola board representative JB Baylon, in a text message, added that he’s ok with the idea of lifting the trade restrictions between Air21 and Talk N Text players.

Barrios said he will wait for Air21’s request. The issue is expected to be brought up in the board’s next meeting wherein Pardo, being the vice chairman of the PBA board, will preside since Alvarez’s team is the one involved. – GMANews.TV

[konstructura]

A 4 player Trade in the offing. If all ironed out, will materialize tomorrow till Wednesday.

It's supposed to be a 6 player deal until both camps agreed on the original 2 on 2 trade.

1 between Ginebra & SMB is involved.

Its a 2 team trade only.

Marquee players involved.---than@pex.

[Aqua Light]

A 4 player Trade in the offing. If all ironed out, will materialize tomorrow till Wednesday.

It's supposed to be a 6 player deal until both camps agreed on the original 2 on 2 trade.

1 between Ginebra & SMB is involved.

Its a 2 team trade only.

Marquee players involved.---than@pex.

Interesting:)

[bognut]

A 4 player Trade in the offing. If all ironed out, will materialize tomorrow till Wednesday.

It's supposed to be a 6 player deal until both camps agreed on the original 2 on 2 trade.

1 between Ginebra & SMB is involved.

Its a 2 team trade only.

Marquee players involved.---than@pex.

i think this was supposed to be the Eman trade.

mamaril or wilson to smb? since hatfield is coming back to BGK.

[rspk]

here's the clue for the trade. click (http://www.patriciahizon.blogspot.com/)

thanks to mrs. patricia hizon.

first trade item could be Captain Hook and Skyrus?

[PUGOtipm]

here's the clue for the trade. click (http://www.patriciahizon.blogspot.com/)

thanks to mrs. patricia hizon.

first trade item could be Captain Hook and Skyrus?
+Ren2x, Yancy back to Burger King(Air21), Belga, and maybe Rico finally going to TNT.

[than11]

A 4 player Trade in the offing. If all ironed out, will materialize tomorrow till Wednesday.

It's supposed to be a 6 player deal until both camps agreed on the original 2 on 2 trade.

1 between Ginebra & SMB is involved.

Its a 2 team trade only.

Marquee players involved.---than@pex.

Definitely Ginebra..Unless Siot is lying..
And Jong already confirmed there are two trade offers still on his table.

[Cryotek]

YAncy and Ritualo will be donning Air21 jerseys again...

[Zero]

From Rp Tim facebook account.

PBA Trade deal for approval : air21's jr quinahan, mark yee & aaron aban for talk n text's renren ritualo & yancy de ocampo... (via hooptalk)

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/teampilipinas?ref=ts

[capitantiago]

From Rp Tim facebook account.

PBA Trade deal for approval : air21's jr quinahan, mark yee & aaron aban for talk n text's renren ritualo & yancy de ocampo... (via hooptalk)

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/teampilipinas?ref=ts

and they are sister teams, right? hahaha

[reamily]

and they are sister teams, right? hahaha

thats the way it is they asking permission from the board to make it legal since they are air21 again(:D nabayaran:D na yun lista kay Japeth:cool:)

[Silent Killer]

Yancy will donning again Air21 jersey and we do hope yancy display his game again. he has game but had limited minutes under coach chot. Ritualo will be the man again for Air21 franchise. good trade though but they(air21 and TNT) make this players a ping pong balls or tennis balls. :D

[kerouac82]

and they are sister teams, right? hahaha

Not anymore, if we're talking about majority ownership of the teams. I believe MVP does not have anything to do with Air21, which is a Lina company.

[Stallions 87]

Pba board would be stupid not to sanction the trade. For one it truly helps the league in tilting the balance for weaker Teams like Air 21 to acquire more tools in its bid for decency. Hopefull expect the acquired cagers from Air 21 to be loaned to Redbull to also add more material to their bid this coming Reinforce Conference. Trades that favor bottom dwelling teams should immediately be given the thumbs up .... this is truly for the betterment of the PBA..... Overall the start of the trade is still mellow, the drama should still unfold as promise by our seasoned bloggers who indicated fireworks from Smb, Gins and Tnt. Come what may, im sure Alaska will retool in the off season and hopefully knock on the doors of Rain or Shine again.

[The_Big_Cat]

From Rp Tim facebook account.

PBA Trade deal for approval : air21's jr quinahan, mark yee & aaron aban for talk n text's renren ritualo & yancy de ocampo... (via hooptalk)

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/teampilipinas?ref=ts

Yancy De Ocampo and RenRen Ritualo are going back to the ballclub that drafted them. Talk 'N Text will also free up some salary cap in their team.

[rspk]

new trade updates from mrs. patricia bermudez hizon


click here. (www.patriciahizon.blogspot.com)

Cyrus Bagui and Intal for MacMac Cardona?

[kaiziken_pinas]

new trade updates from mrs. patricia bermudez hizon


click here. (www.patriciahizon.blogspot.com)

Cyrus Bagui and Intal for MacMac Cardona?

that's a bad deal. Ginebra needs a big man, not another ballhog.

and BTW, since Yancy and RenRen were traded, I would be following Air21 na. hehe. :D
Does this mean they'll be playing in Dubai?
I'd rather have Baguio go to Air21. kots Yeng would let him perform all the flashy hangtime moves.(agaw buko at its best!)

[hawke12]

that's a bad deal. Ginebra needs a big man, not another ballhog.

and BTW, since Yancy and RenRen were traded, I would be following Air21 na. hehe. :D
Does this mean they'll be playing in Dubai?
I'd rather have Baguio go to Air21. kots Yeng would let him perform all the flashy hangtime moves.(agaw buko at its best!)

Excuse me for asking.... but what is agaw buko?

dba "agaw" means steal and "buko" coconut...

[kaiziken_pinas]

Excuse me for asking.... but what is agaw buko?

dba "agaw" means steal and "buko" coconut...

I forgot the exact meaning. haha. But I think it's related to Street Style BBall, which is entertaining to watch but bad for obvious reasons.

Rafe Bartholomew wrote an article about Philippine Basketball Terminologies. My memory failed me. I forgot where I read them.

[dxjayrock2008]

I forgot the exact meaning. haha. But I think it's related to Street Style BBall, which is entertaining to watch but bad for obvious reasons.

Rafe Bartholomew wrote an article about Philippine Basketball Terminologies. My memory failed me. I forgot where I read them.


For alien space bats' perspective, agaw-buko means deteriorating style of basketball. Lolz!

[b3lowzro]

Excuse me for asking.... but what is agaw buko?

dba "agaw" means steal and "buko" coconut...

well there's a game they play during fiestas named agaw buko, i forgot the rules but from what i recall there's this 2 teams which tries to capture a greased coconut. The manner in which the basketball players hustle for the loose ball reminds the commentators of what happens in an Agaw Buko game.

last time I played this game was in gradeschool during the "Buwan ng Wika" festivities in our school.

[ninja]

alaska should make a trade... miller=cardona, hugnatan=carey

[ramzaruglia]

alaska should make a trade... miller=cardona, hugnatan=carey

Hugnatan is what Tim Cone like in his team. And about Cardona, I'm certain that Tim Cone is wise enough not to add a ballhog to his Triangle system.

But I put my money on David, as an equalizer, in case Miller will be traded.:D

[eindhow]

Miller won't be traded..^_^

[saints13]

new trade updates from mrs. patricia bermudez hizon


click here. (www.patriciahizon.blogspot.com)

Cyrus Bagui and Intal for MacMac Cardona?

wah, i thought this was true...hmmm...if ever it was, it would congest each other's rosters though..especially on the 2 guard and small forward position

[The_Big_Cat]

that's a bad deal. Ginebra needs a big man, not another ballhog.

and BTW, since Yancy and RenRen were traded, I would be following Air21 na. hehe. :D
Does this mean they'll be playing in Dubai?
I'd rather have Baguio go to Air21. kots Yeng would let him perform all the flashy hangtime moves.(agaw buko at its best!)

Not yet. Quinahan, Yee and Aban will still play for Air21 in Dubai. Yancy and Renren will join Air21 after the Dubai tourney.

[jericho D. Niera]

Hugnatan is what Tim Cone like in his team. And about Cardona, I'm certain that Tim Cone is wise enough not to add a ballhog to his Triangle system.

But I put my money on David, as an equalizer, in case Miller will be traded.:D

and you believe that david is not a ball hog?? :eek::eek::eek:

he dont even follow setup plays.. he always do his own, create on his own and shoot own shots! :D:D:D

[gergerbinx]

anyways... what's that trade being work out on by san miguel? another one of their pau gasol to kwame brown-like trades? :rolleyes: or probably worst.....

[Joe Yabuki]

There have been rumblings that Jeff Chan might be going to SMB, maybe not just Jeff but JR Reyes and arana as well.

also, Ren Ren might be traded again as well, this time to SMB, unless Air21 goes for the usual cash consideration or trades ren ren for calaguio or holper, pretty much anyone on SMB's bench will be better for Air21 than Ren Ren.

[gergerbinx]

oh well.... no matter what it is (as expected it will be an imbalance trade again), the universe has its way of keeping things fair... just look how badly-constructed their line-up was... and how they were killed by pfoods... one of the happiest day of my life... :D

[jericho D. Niera]

^ well, one of the "insiders" of SMB, who's my uncle's friend (ang layo ng relasyon!) told me that SMB was a victim of politics.. he said that there's a plan that the series between SMB-PF will be a scripted match.. boss wants PF to win in other to help noy-noy's campaign..

i dont know if it's true.. but who knows! kung may usok may apoy.. :D:D:D

[capitantiago]

^ well, one of the "insiders" of SMB, who's my uncle's friend (ang layo ng relasyon!) told me that SMB was a victim of politics.. he said that there's a plan that the series between SMB-PF will be a scripted match.. boss wants PF to win in other to help noy-noy's campaign..

i dont know if it's true.. but who knows! kung may usok may apoy.. :D:D:D

hahaha too many dots to connect with.
and boss danding's baby is SMB right? hahaha

[kerouac82]

^ well, one of the "insiders" of SMB, who's my uncle's friend (ang layo ng relasyon!) told me that SMB was a victim of politics.. he said that there's a plan that the series between SMB-PF will be a scripted match.. boss wants PF to win in other to help noy-noy's campaign..

i dont know if it's true.. but who knows! kung may usok may apoy.. :D:D:D

Wait. Danding Cojuangco actually supports someone from the Peping side of the clan? You gotta be kidding :D

[Big Ticket]

^ well, one of the "insiders" of SMB, who's my uncle's friend (ang layo ng relasyon!) told me that SMB was a victim of politics.. he said that there's a plan that the series between SMB-PF will be a scripted match.. boss wants PF to win in other to help noy-noy's campaign..

i dont know if it's true.. but who knows! kung may usok may apoy.. :D:D:D

that's a nice excuse for SMB's poor performance against purefoods...though a very unbelievable one...

[c_d]

Air21 ships Yancy to Ginebra for Alvarez, Kramer (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/185620/air21-ships-yancy-to-ginebra-for-alvarez-kramer)
03/08/2010 | 07:03 PM

Air21, a team always busy on shipping one player to another, will have a reunion of Ateneo and La Salle players on its team for the coming Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) Fiesta Conference.

The Express got half of the job done when they dealt recently-acquired 6’9 center Yancy de Ocampo and their second-round draft pick in next season’s Rookie Draftto the Ginebra Gin Kings in exchange for 2004-05 Rookie of the Year Rich Alvarez and bruising forward Doug Kramer.

Ginebra coach Jong Uichico, in a text message to GMANews.TV, confirmed the news.

“It’s for finalization, but I don’t know if it’s already been approved," said Uichico.

Air21 team manager and PBA chairman Lito Alvarez said it’s already agreed in principle and welcomed this new development for his team.

Alvarez said it was coach Yeng Guiao who convinced him to get Alvarez as he is more “familiar in utilizing the player’s potential."

“Coach Yeng said he wants Rich’s work ethic," said the Air21PBA board representative in a telephone interview. “Coach Yeng thinks Rich wasn’t given enough playing time with his former teams."

Alvarez played for Guiao when the fiery mentor was still coaching Barako Bull (formerly Red Bull Barakos).

Trades between the 10 participating teams are expected to intensify before the start of the import-laced Fiesta Conference on March 21.

Cabagnot-Cortez trade in the works
While Ateneans Alvarez, Gonzales and Kramer had found themselves altogether again, two former members of the La Salle Green Archers’ champion squad are anticipating the possible acquisition of their ex-teammate – Mike Cortez.

Cortez, who won championships with La Salle, will most likely join Ren-Ren Ritualo and Carlo Sharma with the Express.

A trade between Cortez and talented lefty point guard Alex Cabagnot is being worked out now by Air21 and San Miguel.

Cabagnot was traded by Coca-Cola to the Express along with Gonzales for Gary David and Chico Lanete. If plans push through, Cabagnot will be dealt to his fourth team in the last five years and might join a Beermen squad loaded with guards.

[Zero]

wow, jonas and alex.

maybe the 2nd coming of racela and victoria?

[saints13]

Cabagnot to SMB? too many slower guards for SMB...

[durden_tyler]

Cabagnot to SMB? too many slower guards for SMB...

Hmmm, Cabagnot is actually quite fast (especially with the ball) but has a very inconsistent outside shot and could be erratic at times. Trade is nice actually as SMB get to release an aging Cortez for a much younger one.

Would he fit with Jonas though? That is the more pressing question. Or will he eat minutes from Jonas? That is a scary thought, considering Jonas' development has been good the past conferences... BUT if SMB manages to unload Denok and/or Bon Bon, i guess Cabagnot is a good insurance (now and the future) but yeah SMB still haven't solved their glut at the PG/G spots so that me addressed....

[capitantiago]

Hmmm, Cabagnot is actually quite fast (especially with the ball) but has a very inconsistent outside shot and could be erratic at times. Trade is nice actually as SMB get to release an aging Cortez for a much younger one.

Would he fit with Jonas though? That is the more pressing question. Or will he eat minutes from Jonas? That is a scary thought, considering Jonas' development has been good the past conferences... BUT if SMB manages to unload Denok and/or Bon Bon, i guess Cabagnot is a good insurance (now and the future) but yeah SMB still haven't solved their glut at the PG/G spots so that me addressed....

no, they should get cabagnot for nothing. hahaha
because SMB is trying to build a security guard agency. hahaha

[da_dream]

air21 will be a force to reckon..

[bognut]

air21 will be a force to reckon..

in liga pilipinas :D

[manu_bol]

in liga pilipinas :D

they lost to the UAE NT by 3 points (smart gilas also lost to the UAE NT) and beat al nasr team with imports. they played all-filipino.

PBA teams are good, too... ;)

[bognut]

they lost to the UAE NT by 3 points (smart gilas also lost to the UAE NT) and beat al nasr team with imports. they played all-filipino.

PBA teams are good, too... ;)

as long as winnie arboleda plays there will absolutely be a beating! :D

[ras627]

there are rumors smb will shift cabagnot to bgk in exchange to skyrus

[durden_tyler]

as long as winnie arboleda plays there will absolutely be a beating! :D

Yeah, if the suspension is lifted, the toughness and roughness of an Arboleda will surely help Air 21's cause. Too bad it won't be lifted. PBA needs more of these type of players and not sissies ;)

[insulares]

I agree. We need more of these meat-head types who are willing to mingle with the ringside crowd and engage them in some lively audience participation.

I hope the PBA does away with those pussies who actually use their brains and exercise restraint.

[fujima04]

Yancy de Ocampo to Ginebra. Rich Alvarez and Doug Kramer to Air21.

[Uto-uto PBA Fans]

I agree. We need more of these meat-head types who are willing to mingle with the ringside crowd and engage them in some lively audience participation.

I hope the PBA does away with those pussies who actually use their brains and exercise restraint.

I agree too! LoL.. Its not hard to differentiate people who are the educated and who's not, at least in a civilized society such as ours.

[c_d]

Barako bolsters slate (http://mb.com.ph/articles/247461/barako-bolsters-slate-air21-gets-new-import)
By WAYLON GALVEZ
March 12, 2010, 6:19pm

Barako Bull on Thursday signed veteran players Leo Najorda and Jojo Duncil to a similar one-year extension aside from getting two more free agents to bolster its roster for the coming PBA Fiesta Cup set March 21.

The 6-foot-3 Najorda, a former NCAA Most Valuable Player (MVP) from San Sebastian College, is averaging 10.3 points and 3.9 rebounds in the previous Philippine Cup, while Duncil, a one-time University of Santo Tomas ace guard who won Finals MVP when the Tigers won the UAAP title in 2006, also signed a one-year contract.

Both contracts, sources said, approximately worth P1.5 million.

The Boosters also signed a pair of free agents, 5-foot-6 point guard Al Vergara, and power forward Gerwin Gaco, considered one of the best defenders from the amateur ranks.

Vergara, who played last season with Purefoods, recently suited up for the Singapore Slingers in the ASEAN Basketball League (ABL) won by the Philippine Patriots.

Gaco made key contribution in the RP Patriots victory in the ABL.

The Boosters also tapped the services of 6-foot-6 Sam Monroe, who last played for the Potros Itson in Mexico. He had his first practice yesterday.

The 25-year-old Monroe, a physical education/sports management graduate at Newberry, averaged almost 25 points per game in Mexico with 5.4 rebounds and 2.8 assists. He also played three years ago with the Rochester RazorSharks in the Premiere Basketball League (PBL).

Meantime, Air21 will have Keena Young as import after its original choice, Leroy Hickerson, figured in a vehicular accident in Kentucky, USA after a stint in Mexico.

[luzvimindo]

Aces trading players to trim down salary cap
By WAYLON GALVEZ
March 14, 2010, 5:09pm

By taking in Sam Eman, Alaska is now exploring possibilities of trading some of its players to trim down its salary cap for the PBA Fiesta Cup which opens shop on Sunday.

Aces coach Tim Cone said that they are now evaluating the performances of their players so that they can allow the 6-foot-8 Eman play along side with Sonny Thoss.

Eman and Thoss, who stands at 6-foot-7, will form Alaska’s own version of twin tower. Eman, the man from Davao, joined the team last conference as Unrestricted Free Agent with Rights to Salary from San Miguel Beer.

Eman, who turned 28 last Friday and now on his third season in the pro-league, still has one conference left on his previous three-year contract with SMB.

Although Alaska will continue to shoulder the remainder of his salary, Eman, already signed a separate deal with the Aces approximately worth P11 million, reason why Cone said it’s possible that they move some players to other teams.

But the team is still undecided as to who will go and who will not.

“We haven’t done that yet,” Cone told the Bulletin in a phone interview. “Sam has made an impact on our salary cap.”

Cone confirmed reports that one possible trade they are looking at is to send forward John Ferriols to Barako Bull. The 6-foot-4 Ferriols, an eight-year veteran, is one of the key players in Alaska’s frontline rotation averaging 2.9 points and 2.6 rebounds in the Philippine Cup.

“We don’t want him to worry. The reports that John is now going to Barako Bull is very premature,” Cone said.

They tapped as import Diamon Simpson, a 6-foot-5 forward/center who had a previous stint in the NBDL, to boost their title bid in the coming conference.

The Aces are hoping to put their humiliating setback in the Philippine Cup where they were swept away by Purefoods in their best-of-seven title series.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/247775/aces-trading-players-trim-down-salary-cap

[gergerbinx]

they shouldn't trade ferriols...he's an insurance bigman in case eman don't live up to expectations this conference... but i believe they really need to trade to trim some salaries... eman's contract is quite huge and may be crippling in the long run if he underachieve...

[capitantiago]

they shouldn't trade ferriols...he's an insurance bigman in case eman don't live up to expectations this conference... but i believe they really need to trade to trim some salaries... eman's contract is quite huge and may be crippling in the long run if he underachieve...

that's why pba rookie contracts are ridiculous, especially the top 3 or 4 picks. teams are paying huge money to untested players. regardless of how they performed in the amateurs, the pba is a different ballgame.

why pay them that high? because of the potential? lol

this practice is not actually good since far more tested veterans are worthy of bigger contracts. but of course, ferriols is not one of them. lol

meanwhile, the nba has long been protecting veterans. they don't give that much money to top rookie picks. this was brought about by the incredulous 10-year contract given to glenn big dog robinson.

[webfrontier]

Alaska will now have a super power front line with Thoss and Eman manning the middle. That's a twin tower! They are the team to beat next conference.

[capitantiago]

Alaska will now have a super power front line with Thoss and Eman manning the middle. That's a twin tower! They are the team to beat next conference.

in the pre-season, alaska and smb were rated to be the teams to beat in the Phil. Cup. and we all know what happened.

we'll see.

and i hope they will meet llamados in a series. lol

[bognut]

Alaska will now have a super power front line with Thoss and Eman manning the middle. That's a twin tower! They are the team to beat next conference.

your twin towers will be in foul trouble every game!

but miller will be there to bail alaska in the elims...

and then choke in the playoffs once again! :o

[Big Ticket]

Alaska will now have a super power front line with Thoss and Eman manning the middle. That's a twin tower! They are the team to beat next conference.

but are they athletic enough to handle the sampayan brigade of derby ace?

[reamily]

Bonbon traded for yeo sta. lucia gotta good trade in this release some cap space
and optimize ryan more in sg position

350k player getting traded for a 200k max man ave stalu willsave 900k in remainder of season

[capitantiago]

your twin towers will be in foul trouble every game!

but miller will be there to bail alaska in the elims...

and then choke in the playoffs once again! :o

owned! lol

[capitantiago]

but are they athletic enough to handle the sampayan brigade of derby ace?

yeah. and eman, for all of his potentials, should live up to it.

[capitantiago]

Bonbon traded to yeo sta. lucia gotta good trade in this release some cap space
and optimize ryan more in sg position

in exchange for? k-will? lol

[reamily]

in exchange for? k-will? lol

hehe :D:D:D

[PUGOtipm]

Bonbon traded for yeo sta. lucia gotta good trade in this release some cap space
and optimize ryan more in sg position

350k player getting traded for a 200k max man ave stalu willsave 900k in remainder of season
This trades between Sta. Lucia and San Miguel is fast becoming a trend... Expect K-Will to be shifted to SMB as soon as one of the Danny's decided to retired. K-Will started his playing career here under SMB franchise.

[durden_tyler]

This trades between Sta. Lucia and San Miguel is fast becoming a trend... Expect K-Will to be shifted to SMB as soon as one of the Danny's decided to retired. K-Will started his playing career here under SMB franchise.

Wouldn't be surprised if that happened actually. Then again, paper powerhouse teams doesn't assure championships so i am not sure if i can be excited with that prospect.

Fact: SMB has the most money in the league.
Fact: It's not translating to W's that matter when it counts the most.

So yeah, being an SMB fan, i could hate that trade as well as i hate(d) the Santos exchange and now the Yeo deal.

[capitantiago]

Wouldn't be surprised if that happened actually. Then again, paper powerhouse teams doesn't assure championships so i am not sure if i can be excited with that prospect.

Fact: SMB has the most money in the league.
Fact: It's not translating to W's that matter when it counts the most.

So yeah, being an SMB fan, i could hate that trade as well as i hate(d) the Santos exchange and now the Yeo deal.

easy, bro.
how about changing your coach? hehehe

[c_d]

Ferriols heads to Gin Kings (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideSports.htm?f=/2010/march/18/sports5.isx&d=2010/march/18)

SISTER teams San Miguel Beer and Ginebra worked double time on the trading table and got marquee players – spitfire guard Joseph Yeo and 6’9” slotman Yancy de Ocampo.

As the clock struck 5 p.m. Wednesday, the Gin Kings secured the services of John Ferriols, who became an unrestricted free agent.

Ferriols was put on the reserved list by the Alaska Aces, but the Gin Kings wasted no time and plucked him in their bid to shore up their frontline.

Ginebra coach Jong Uichico confirmed to Standard Today that they’re securing the services of the 6’5” slotman, who became the Most Valuable Player in the inaugural staging of the defunct Metropolitan Basketball Association in 1998 for the Negros Slashers.

“Yes, we’re getting him,” said Uichico. “I don’t know when will he become a free agent, but I’m sure the management had already talked to him about that.”

Alaska team manager and board representative Joaqui Trillo admitted in a telephone interview that they’re putting Ferriols on the reserved list to make room for Samigue Eman, who was taken by the Aces during the latter stretch of the Philippine Cup.

“He’s still with us, but he can be picked up by any team as long as he agrees to play with them,” added Trillo.

Late Tueday night, the Beermen made another bold move by getting another marquee player in Yeo, who was added to the already congested guard spot of the squad. He was acquired in a trade involving Bonbon Custodio.

But a source who requested anonymity said that the Beermen and the Gin Kings are not done yet with their wheeling and dealing.

“There are still congested areas for both teams, so I believe there will be movements to be done in the next few days,” said the source.

[reamily]

Ferriols heads to Gin Kings (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideSports.htm?f=/2010/march/18/sports5.isx&d=2010/march/18)

the paconsuelo of Alaska to the Samigue eman acquisition:)

[dominique]

Im just wondering coz in previous thread (not sure if in this thread) i've read that rudy hatfield is back in the gin's line up..any update? Thanks a lot..

[ma4ma]

Im just wondering coz in previous thread (not sure if in this thread) i've read that rudy hatfield is back in the gin's line up..any update? Thanks a lot..

i think he will be back on April 6.. :)
not sure

[dominique]

i think he will be back on April 6.. :)
not surei checked the PBA website, and i dont find his name in the Gin's line up..well maybe they'll be putting somebody in the injured/reserve list as soon as rudy comes back..i guess rudy is the missing link in the gin's lineup..:)

[nardy]

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San Miguel looking to sell control of SMB, Ginebra, Purefoods businesses; Danding Cojuangco looking to cash out? (http://firequinito.com/archives/337-San-Miguel-looking-to-sell-control-of-SMB,-Ginebra,-Purefoods-businesses;-Danding-Cojuangco-looking-to-cash-out.html)

http://firequinito.com/uploads/danding-cojuangco.jpg

Several weeks back, I wrote about the interest of Japanese beer giant Kirin to increase its stake in San Miguel Brewery (http://firequinito.com/archives/309-Japanese-beer-company-looking-to-take-control-of-San-Miguel-Brewery.html) and gain control of the San Miguel subsidiary. At the time, San Miguel Corporation president Ramon Ang denied that the food and beverage giant was looking to give up control of its beer operation (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideNews.htm?f=2010/march/17/news1.isx&d=2010/march/17), saying that the company seeks to retain control of its main businesses, which include San Miguel Brewery Inc., Ginebra San Miguel Inc., and San Miguel Pure Foods Corporation.

Ang has since changed his tune, as two weeks ago, the company sought board approval to sell majority stakes in its food and beverage holdings (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-15/san-miguel-may-sell-control-of-food-drink-businesses-update2-.html). The company aims to raise additional capital to fund its expansion into high-growth industries.

Apart from interest from Kirin in SMB, Ang himself confirmed that the mother company is in talks to sell Ginebra to the brewery (http://businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23143:smcs-brewery-stake-sale-plan-to-kirin-leaves-market-guessing&catid=23:topnews&Itemid=58). He also said that there are already interested buyers in San Miguel Pure Foods.

It should be noted that while most of San Miguel’s traditional food brands such as Magnolia, Monterey, and B-MEG have been folded into San Miguel Pure Foods, the company is still headed by Butch Alejo, a professional manager who was part of Purefoods before the sale of the company by the Ayala Corporation to San Miguel. In previous years, San Miguel has shown few qualms about letting go of brands associated with the company: it sold its dairy business (including Magnolia ice cream) in 1998 to Nestle and its stake in Coca-Cola Bottlers Philippines Inc. (including Royal Tru-Orange) to the Atlanta-based Coca-Cola Company. San Miguel Pure Foods is currently in a joint venture with American meat company Hormel in its canned and processed meats business.

Further making matters interesting are the murmurs about the possibility of San Miguel chairman Danding Cojuangco cashing out of the company (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/insights/04/19/10/more-changes-san-miguel). The former Marcos crony has been reported to be battling an illness.

These giant moves, if and when they happen, would cause ripples beyond the business world, and it would be felt especially in the Philippine Basketball Association. The San Miguel PBA teams – San Miguel Beer, Ginebra, and Derby Ace (nee Purefoods) – provide enough marketing value apart from boosting corporate morale, so whoever controls the companies will most probably keep them around.

But there will also be changes. For one, there will be realignment, because while San Miguel and Ginebra will most likely still be sister teams, Purefoods might be under different umbrella. Also, if Cojuangco, a big-time basketball fan who once served as project director of the Philippine national basketball program, leaves San Miguel, the teams may not have a patron who will allow the carefree spending for the ball clubs’ operations.

If all these things go down, we might wake up one day to realize that the PBA is no longer an SMC league (http://firequinito.com/archives/277-The-SMC-League.html). I would not mind that at all.


Posted by jaemark (http://firequinito.com/authors/1-jaemark) on April 26, 2010 at 18:49 (http://firequinito.com/archives/337-San-Miguel-looking-to-sell-control-of-SMB,-Ginebra,-Purefoods-businesses;-Danding-Cojuangco-looking-to-cash-out.html)

[Uto-uto PBA Fans]

Kirin Basketball Ninjas isn't so bad..

So we'll be seeing more of the likes of Makoto Hasegawa, Takehiko Orimo, Satoshi Sakumoto, Hiroyuki Tominaga playing in the PBA? heheee...:D:D:D

[kaiziken_pinas]

Kirin Basketball Ninjas isn't so bad..

So we'll be seeing more of the likes of Makoto Hasegawa, Takehiko Orimo, Satoshi Sakumoto, Hiroyuki Tominaga playing in the PBA? heheee...:D:D:D

epic!:D:D:D:D:D

I'd love to see a hook up with the japanese league.

[bone24_corleone]

I want tabuse in PBA..Going against alapag is interesting.

[kitin_21]

Willie miller to gin_bra....cyrus baguio to alaska..wtf....

[donno]

Willie miller to gin_bra....cyrus baguio to alaska..wtf....

yeah! it's already confirmed this morning. Ginebra got a reliable scorer and an MVP-caliber player while Alaska got a younger and quicker guard.

it's going to be interesting this Friday as both teams will debut for their new teams against their former squads.

next in line... Mac Cardona for Kelly Williams. but this will probably happen after this conference. MVP is already moving heavens and earth to get K-Will (he is planning to transfer K-Will to the Smart-Gilas team).

[eindhow]

Now Alaska will have fastbreak points..:p

[DS_42]

Willie miller to gin_bra....cyrus baguio to alaska..wtf....

BGK now has 3 ballhogs in their team...MC, JH and WM :D :D :D

[RickyPBA]

yeah! it's already confirmed this morning. Ginebra got a reliable scorer and an MVP-caliber player while Alaska got a younger and quicker guard.

it's going to be interesting this Friday as both teams will debut for their new teams against their former squads.

next in line... Mac Cardona for Kelly Williams. but this will probably happen after this conference. MVP is already moving heavens and earth to get K-Will (he is planning to transfer K-Will to the Smart-Gilas team).

how did you this things?(about the cardona-williams trade) any source?

[Mel]

Menk on Twitter:

"New import. New player (Willie Miller! Wow!) for fridays game vs. Alaska. Should be interesting... Sad to see Cyrus go so soon.... "

[donno]

how did you this things?(about the cardona-williams trade) any source?

it came from Snow Badua's FB page. Snow is a very reliable source with regards to the deals being worked upon by the teams.

a hint was also given by Patrcia Hizon in her blogspot/twitter page that aside the CB3-WM11 trade, another big one is coming soon (and that is the MC9-KW21 trade).

also, re the rumored Cardona-Williams swap, if ever this will push thru, MVP must thank Lito Alvarez for giving him the suggestion of snatching Kelly via trade so he can use him for the Smart-Gilas campaign.

[bognut]

also, re the rumored Cardona-Williams swap, if ever this will push thru, MVP must thank Lito Alvarez for giving him the suggestion of snatching Kelly via trade so he can use him for the Smart-Gilas campaign.

in the first place, the PBA board could have just lend some of their players.

lito alvarez is the man! :o

[pinoybug]

in the first place, the PBA board could have just lend some of their players.

lito alvarez is the man! :o

A shrewd man at that!

[nardy]

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A totally unsubstantiated rumor about a potential buyer for Purefoods: The Unilab family (http://firequinito.com/archives/339-A-totally-unsubstantiated-rumor-about-a-potential-buyer-for-Purefoods-The-Unilab-family.html)

While trolling around the Pinoy Exchange forums, I came across an interesting discussion about my previous post about the San Miguel Corporation possibly selling control of some of its core businesses in food, beer, and liquor (http://firequinito.com/archives/337-San-Miguel-looking-to-sell-control-of-SMB,-Ginebra,-Purefoods-businesses;-Danding-Cojuangco-looking-to-cash-out.html). The last post, about a potential buyer for the San Miguel Pure Foods Corporation (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442177), caught my eye, and got my wheels turning:


i have a source na baka daw ibenta ang pfoods sa unilab. not sure about pero parang ganun daw. though nagtataka ako ang layo ng unilab para mag venture sa food industry. i asked him if what will happen to pfoods once mangyari nun.. no answer siya
At first glance, it doesn’t seem to make sense; why would Unilab, the country’s biggest pharmaceutical company, be interested in Purefoods?

Well, a heir of the Campos clan, Joselito “Butch” Campos, started his own food conglomerate called NutriAsia (http://www.nutriasia.com/). It initially started small, producing sauces, ketchup, and vinegar.

The company, however, set its sights to something bigger when in 2005, Campos tried to acquire Del Monte Pacific. However, rumor had it that the Campos family was unwilling to fund the purchase with Unilab money (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=H1Q1AAAAIBAJ&sjid=aCUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1285%2C9701967). Meanwhile, Del Monte Pacific had another buyer interested: First Pacific (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=H1Q1AAAAIBAJ&sjid=aCUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=2871%2C9730401), which you may remember as the investment company headed by one Manuel V. Pangilinan.

Campos, however, succeeded in acquiring Del Monte Pacific by forming a joint venture with San Miguel Corporation to buy the company (http://www.ap-foodtechnology.com/Processing/San-Miguel-NutriAsia-JV-to-buy-Del-Monte-Pacific). But the partnership did not last long. In 2007, Butch got clearance to finally dip into family funds to buy out the whole San Miguel stake in the JV (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20070413-60209/San_Miguel_raises_%24150M_from_sale_of_stake_in_Nu triAsia) and take control of Del Monte Pacific, with SMC getting some $150-million out of the deal. It was an amicable parting, which San Miguel Corporation president Ramon Ang described as “is consistent with the original agreement that provided for a friendly process of disengagement by either party.”

Again, let me make it clear, the sale of SMPFC is still just a wild rumor right now. But an acquisition of SMPFC, which includes popular brands such as Purefoods, Magnolia, Monterey, B-MEG, and many others, would fit in well with the Campos family’s burgeoning food empire, which include Del Monte, UFC, Datu Puti, and Mang Tomas. The two parties seem to have a healthy relationship. A sale doesn’t sound so far-fetched, doesn’t it? For Purefoods fans: How does the Del Monte Fit 'N Right Slimmers sound to you?

Curiously, the patriarch of the Campos clan, Jose Yao Campos, was also known to be a Marcos crony (http://www.bworld.com.ph/main/content.php?id=8590), like current San Miguel chairman Danding Cojuangco.


Posted by jaemark (http://firequinito.com/authors/1-jaemark) on April 28, 2010 at 01:05 (http://firequinito.com/archives/339-A-totally-unsubstantiated-rumor-about-a-potential-buyer-for-Purefoods-The-Unilab-family.html)

[Jay P. Mercado]

Menk on Twitter:

"New import. New player (Willie Miller! Wow!) for fridays game vs. Alaska. Should be interesting... Sad to see Cyrus go so soon.... "

If there's one thing noteworthy of Willie Miller that players can describe him, it's being Mr. Congeniality. Miller is arguably the most well-liked player by his peers and Menk's twit message not only expresses his admiration for the guy but also his excitement to have a buddy in Miller. Miller isn't the type who creates animosity and is generally a fun-loving, likeable person that even guys like Asi Taulava, Jimmy Alapag, and even Mac Cardona adore him.

[nardy]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OewplkBv9_Gm5M:http://www.klima.ph/news/meaculpa_files/masthead01.gif

Alas makes PBA comeback, joins Barako coaching staff
04/27/2010 | 07:43 PM

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Multi-titled collegiate coach Louie Alas, after an eight-year absence, makes his PBA comeback as the new assistant coach of Junel Baculi on the Barako Energy Coffee Makers’ bench.

Baculi is currently being assisted by Raymond Celis and the Barakos are hoping that Alas’ addition to the team would turn the Energy Coffee Makers’ fortunes when the Fiesta Conference resumes after the annual All-Star Games.

“I was officially introduced to the players, management and coaching staff on Tuesday," Alas said to GMANews.TV in a telephone interview.

“Of course, I am excited. It’s been eight years since I left the PBA. But I’m here to just play a minimal role and that is to assist Junel Baculi."

Alas steered the Philippine Patriots’ to the championship in the inaugural season of the ASEAN Basketball League (ABL).

Alas also led the Letran Knights to the NCAA men’s basketball crowns in 1998, 2003 and 2005, and even won a title for the Manila Metrostars in the now defunct Metropolitan Basketball Association (MBA). He also coached the Philippine squad to the 1999 Southeast Asian Games gold medal.

In the PBA, he coached Mobiline/Talk ‘N Text for two seasons.

Alas and several Patriot players were supposed to join the Energy Coffee Masters’ roster before the start of the Fiesta Conference but got blocked as part of the “co-branding" rule between Barako and Mikee Romero’s Harbour Centre group, which owns the Patriots.

The PBA board allowed Barako to have Harbour (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/185488/harbour-comes-to-cash-strapped-barako-bull39s-aid-in-pba), a non-company member, as their co-brand sponsor only for the Fiesta Conference. Romero’s Patriots were not allowed to sit on the Barako bench as part of the “co-branding rule."

Before the start of the conference, Alas and the rest of the Patriots’ inclusion were questioned by several PBA board members (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/186063/harbour-not-calling-shots-for-barako-exec-says). Former Patriots Rob Wainwright and Jerwin Gaco are now playing for Barako.

PBA commissioner Sonny Barrios said in a telephone interview that he will look at the validity of Alas’ contract. “We will take a look at it if he was really recruited by Barako Energy Coffee and was not assigned by the sponsor to be there on the bench."

- JVP/Rey Joble, GMANews.TV

[durden_tyler]

in the first place, the PBA board could have just lend some of their players.

lito alvarez is the man! :o

Until of course the entire board agrees to this which won't happen ;) So yeah, i think TNT needs to push for Kelly if they really want him. It helps that he is from Sta Lucia, a financially-struggling franchise at that...

But wait, will the SMC group just let it pass? Or will they be aggressive in getting Williams now too? (Pure speculation here, but it could happen...)

[kaiziken_pinas]

Ballhogs in Ginebra. I'd love to see this.
Tubid
Helterbrand
Caguioa
Miller

what if these 4 guards are in the court at the same time? hahaha....


btw, why was Baguio traded? I'm sure as hell that he's a better team player than Miller. I'm an Alaska fan now....!
Mas bagay si Cyrus sa Aces.

Anyway, about the SLR-TNT trade. Can't wait for it.

[mondrine]

i'm a san miguel fan but now i'm an alska fan already...
CB3 goodluck...

[nardy]

Ballhogs in Ginebra. I'd love to see this.
Tubid
Helterbrand
Caguioa
Miller

what if these 4 guards are in the court at the same time? hahaha....


btw, why was Baguio traded? I'm sure as hell that he's a better team player than Miller. I'm an Alaska fan now....!
Mas bagay si Cyrus sa Aces.

Anyway, about the SLR-TNT trade. Can't wait for it.

what if the wish of Danny S to join buddies Menk and Hatfield materialize hahaha

[kaiziken_pinas]

what if the wish of Danny S to join buddies Menk and Hatfield materialize hahaha

In a practical sense, Ginebra would have a lot of Senior players. LOL.

But it would be fun to watch. The stars of the time gone past playing together....:D

[nardy]

http://patriciahizon.blogspot.com/2010/05/but-wait-theres-more.html

Locker Room (http://patriciahizon.blogspot.com/)


By: Patricia Bermudez-Hizon


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BUT WAIT..... THERE'S MORE (http://patriciahizon.blogspot.com/2010/05/but-wait-theres-more.html)


So the Miller-Baguio trade finally happened. That's been in the works for quite some time now and some of the readers of this blog (yes you) may have deciphered my blind items some weeks back.

It was Coach Tim who told me that they really wanted to delay the trade till AFTER the Ginebra-Alaska game but the games were coming in one after the other so they couldn't delay it anymore. He was concerned about the trade, players, and the teams being measured by that game.... But reality sets in and everyone is talking about how Ginebra shouldn't have traded Cyrus Baguio. He was instrumental in the Aces' comeback after being down by as much as 16 points. I kept checking in on Cyrus during the game, and he was well aware that he was being too shy, wasn't being assertive. But the prodding of the coaches for him to not be hesitant worked wonders for the Aces. I'm sure though Willie will soon figure out how and where he can fit in coach Jong's system.

Now for more.....

Item 1:
There's another trade in the works and this will be another shocker. This is one of those deals that the teams have been working on for some time now but they can't seem to come to an agreement. That's usually the case anyway! Team A is milking it as best as they could as they're obviously in need, while Team B is making sure they'll get their money's worth. That's usually the case anyway! TEam B's been involved in so many trade talks but they've been walking away from a lot of them.

This trade here involves a player who doesn't get a lot of love, and a player who's got a lot of faith. One has got a move, the other has never made a move. Both are top caliber, tho one has been on top.

No guarantee this trade will pan out. But if it does... you will be shocked.

Item 2:
A Coach may jump ship.

The team he may be getting involved in is in need of a jolt... He's one to shake things up so it might just work out for them.

He's already met with top brass, now we gotta sit back and wait if they'll come to an agreement.


Item 3:
There were plans of transfering a franchise big man to still a familiar territory but that was put on hold.... "there's a new plan" says my insider.
And that plan could be to keep the team's market value high so that they can "shop it out"... Hmmmmmmm. Juicy stuff!



THat's all for now..... if you wait, there will be more!

[the_BuGs]

^ item no. 1

Kelly Williams and Mac Cardona (a player who doesn't get a lot of love)

[weward]

coach toroman(a non-PBA coach) will be happy if this happens.. cool eh..:cool:

[insulares]

Ballhogs in Ginebra. I'd love to see this.
Tubid
Helterbrand
Caguioa
Miller

what if these 4 guards are in the court at the same time? hahaha....


Feeding frenzy. And I don't mean assists. :D

Crocs unite! mwahahaha...

[KevinDurant]

Until of course the entire board agrees to this which won't happen ;) So yeah, i think TNT needs to push for Kelly if they really want him. It helps that he is from Sta Lucia, a financially-struggling franchise at that...

But wait, will the SMC group just let it pass? Or will they be aggressive in getting Williams now too? (Pure speculation here, but it could happen...)

I think that SMC and TNT are in a sort of tug of war for Williams (or maybe even Reyes') services.

As a Gin fan it would be nice seeing Kelly in a Kings' jersey but as a follower and believer of our national team, I also want him to don our national colors.

[Michael Blazer]

[SIZE=1]

Item 3:
There were plans of transfering a franchise big man to still a familiar territory but that was put on hold.... "there's a new plan" says my insider.
And that plan could be to keep the team's market value high so that they can "shop it out"... Hmmmmmmm. Juicy stuff!



THat's all for now..... if you wait, there will be more!

kerby raymundo??? kerby was at the coliseum during the alaska-ginebra game with danny espiritu....hmmmm

[ma4ma]

Williams may end up with Smart-Gilas

Sta. Lucia Realty is willing to let go of prized forward Kelly Williams for the sake of national interest, according to team governor Buddy Encarnado as he confirmed talks are under way with Talk ‘N Text.

Williams’ services have been sought by the Smart-Gilas national team that is training for the Asian Games in November in China.

“While nobody turns his back for flag and country, we’re also thinking what about the interest of my team. We are amenable of loaning him, but if we lose Kelly, how can we be compensated if he leaves the team,” Encarnado said.

League sources said that Williams and versatile point guard Ryan Reyes will be traded for veterans Ali Peek and Nic Belasco. Talk ’N Text sophomore wingman Jared Dillinger is also being considered as another option in the trade.

Encarnado, however, won’t deny or confirm the report, the same position taken by TNT governor Ricky Vargas when queried about the issue.

“No I don’t want to comment on that. That’s his (Encarnado) prerogative what he wants to say,” Vargas said.

Encarnado clarified the only reason why they are amenable to giving up their 2006 top overall draft pick is for the 6-foot-8 Williams to help the Nationals mentored by Serbian Rajko Toroman.

Talk ‘N Text and Smart-Gilas are both owned by telecommunications mogul Manny V. Pangilinan, who is also the president of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP).

Early in the season, Talk ’N Text traded several players to Air21 to obtain 6-10 forward Japeth Aguilar, the top rookie pick last year. He was immediately loaned by the Tropang Texters to the national team.

Smart-Gilas is currently training in the United States in preparation for the FIBA-Asia Champions Cup in Doha, Qatar on May 22 to 30. The Nationals will also see action in the Asian Games this November in Guangzhou, China.

These tournaments are just part of the Nationals’ build-up for the FIBA-Asia Championship next year, which is the qualifying event for the 2012 London Olympics.

Without elaborating, Encarnado said that there are other ball clubs interested in having Williams and Reyes, as well as Nelbert Omolon and even 14-year veteran Marlou Aquino.

But TNT’s offer is the one that interests them most, according to Encarnado. “It’s simply because of the national team,” Encarnado said.

[Alex07]

Williams may end up with Smart-Gilas

Sta. Lucia Realty is willing to let go of prized forward Kelly Williams for the sake of national interest, according to team governor Buddy Encarnado as he confirmed talks are under way with Talk ‘N Text.

Williams’ services have been sought by the Smart-Gilas national team that is training for the Asian Games in November in China.

“While nobody turns his back for flag and country, we’re also thinking what about the interest of my team. We are amenable of loaning him, but if we lose Kelly, how can we be compensated if he leaves the team,” Encarnado said.

League sources said that Williams and versatile point guard Ryan Reyes will be traded for veterans Ali Peek and Nic Belasco. Talk ’N Text sophomore wingman Jared Dillinger is also being considered as another option in the trade.

Encarnado, however, won’t deny or confirm the report, the same position taken by TNT governor Ricky Vargas when queried about the issue.

“No I don’t want to comment on that. That’s his (Encarnado) prerogative what he wants to say,” Vargas said.

Encarnado clarified the only reason why they are amenable to giving up their 2006 top overall draft pick is for the 6-foot-8 Williams to help the Nationals mentored by Serbian Rajko Toroman.

Talk ‘N Text and Smart-Gilas are both owned by telecommunications mogul Manny V. Pangilinan, who is also the president of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP).

Early in the season, Talk ’N Text traded several players to Air21 to obtain 6-10 forward Japeth Aguilar, the top rookie pick last year. He was immediately loaned by the Tropang Texters to the national team.

Smart-Gilas is currently training in the United States in preparation for the FIBA-Asia Champions Cup in Doha, Qatar on May 22 to 30. The Nationals will also see action in the Asian Games this November in Guangzhou, China.

These tournaments are just part of the Nationals’ build-up for the FIBA-Asia Championship next year, which is the qualifying event for the 2012 London Olympics.

Without elaborating, Encarnado said that there are other ball clubs interested in having Williams and Reyes, as well as Nelbert Omolon and even 14-year veteran Marlou Aquino.

But TNT’s offer is the one that interests them most, according to Encarnado. “It’s simply because of the national team,” Encarnado said.

after this trade is done...Next in line...Gabe Norwood and Sol Mercado.:D

[kaiziken_pinas]

after this trade is done...Next in line...Gabe Norwood and Sol Mercado.:D

no more additions please.:D we might need Gabe but noT SOl.

[Alex07]

no more additions please.:D we might need Gabe but noT SOl.

I think TNT has to let go of one of their point guards for the trade with rain or shine...then TNT could get Sol and Gabe..Gabe goes to the RP team while Sol remains for the PBA games or they could get Jay-r Reyes instead of Mercado.

[kaiziken_pinas]

I think TNT has to let go of one of their point guards for the trade with rain or shine...then TNT could get Sol and Gabe..Gabe goes to the RP team while Sol remains for the PBA games or they could get Jay-r Reyes instead of Mercado.

dude. honestly, they don't need any of those guys(except Norwood probably).
We're overloaded with guards and I think Gilas doesn't need Jay-R Reyes
+TNT might lose any of their Starters just to get Williams. It'll really affect Coach Chot's rotation(I'm a big fan of TNT).

[OjiesIII]

Williams should be lend to Gilas and a Temporary trade to Sta.lucia from TnT until he return. Peek is nice get for the Realtors.

[nardy]

Williams should be lend to Gilas and a Temporary trade to Sta.lucia from TnT until he return. Peek is nice get for the Realtors.

I think there's no such thing as a Temporary Trade. Loaning a player should have been an ideal scenario but Sta Lucia is not willing to do so and would rather get something in return.

The current Fiesta Conference is from March to July. The rookie draft is now usually held every August. Then the Philippine Cup is held from October to February the next year.

With this schedule the Asian Games in November is in conflict with the PBA schedule and we should realize that Sta Lucia losing Kelly Williams would be a big impact in its team competitiveness being the team's main man.

Am sorry but IMOHO Ali Peek is not a gonna be an enticing trade bait for SLR. In any trade it should be of equal impact to each team with regards to both in the financial aspect and basketball talent wise. Since Kelly is the prize here, business wise SLR would wish to get a deal more on its favor. And one has to consider that SLR has spent a considerable amount of money for Williams' hospitalization and medical expenses. So as a businessman for such an investment, you are expecting a considerable amount of return.

[nardy]

Secret Romance Denied by Daiana Menezes and ChrisTiu.

http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/showbiz-tsismis/8586-lihim-na-romansa-itinanggi-nina-daiana-menezes-christiu.html

http://www.journal.com.ph/images/stories/DM.jpg

[weward]

Secret Romance Denied by Daiana Menezes and ChrisTiu.

http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/showbiz-tsismis/8586-lihim-na-romansa-itinanggi-nina-daiana-menezes-christiu.html

http://www.journal.com.ph/images/stories/DM.jpg

:D:D:D

i never heard of this ah..hahaha
bigtime na tlga si kap..:p
to the showbiz chikadoras..wait till you see banchero and christian.:D:D:D(no homo in me :p)

[eindhow]

Secret Romance Denied by Daiana Menezes and ChrisTiu.

http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/showbiz-tsismis/8586-lihim-na-romansa-itinanggi-nina-daiana-menezes-christiu.html

http://www.journal.com.ph/images/stories/DM.jpg

@#$%@#$%@#$ MO TIU!! HAHAHA..

I'm a handsome ball player myself but why don't I get these type of girls? Oh well.. I should change my name to Chris Tiu then..:p

[FilWelsh]

after this trade is done...Next in line...Gabe Norwood and Sol Mercado.:D

Toroman's wish list for Smart Gilas to be competitive in Asian level are Kelly Williams, Chris Lutz and a naturalized player preferably 6"10 and taller. I don't think he is keen on adding more players to the pool. . . Chris Banchero may have impress him but 1 and 2 positions are already overloaded. It is also the reason why he don't bothered if ever Marcio Lassiter will join the PBA draft this July.

[Trail Blazer]

dude. honestly, they don't need any of those guys(except Norwood probably).
We're overloaded with guards and I think Gilas doesn't need Jay-R Reyes
+TNT might lose any of their Starters just to get Williams. It'll really affect Coach Chot's rotation(I'm a big fan of TNT).

it also helps that you're [B]good friends[/B (with benefits???) ] with the mods....you're still alive here...

[kaiziken_pinas]

*ehem ehem*

anyway, according to Snow Badua of NBN sports, a PBA insider(or gov I forgot) wants to form a commission to investigate the Williams-TNT trade due to rumors that MERALCO is about to buy the SLR franchise in which MVP is a major stakeholder. Doesn't this make the two teams SISTER teams? (panggulo)

JB Baylon salutes the TNT management as they are willing to let go of some of their players at the expense of Williams, jeopardizing their campaign in the Fiesta Cup. He and Rene Pardo stated that they(PBA GOVS) are not able to do anything with the ongoing trade talks UNLESS the Commissioner's office(this is where BArrios steps in) brings it up to the Board.

Whether the trade will push through or not(advanced scenario wherein SLR-TNT submitted their trade request forms and those documents which i know nothing of), it rests in the hands of Kume OF ALL PEOPLE!

hope it pushes through.

[KevinDurant]

anyway, according to Snow Badua of NBN sports, a PBA insider(or gov I forgot) wants to form a commission to investigate the Williams-TNT trade due to rumors that MERALCO is about to buy the SLR franchise in which MVP is a major stakeholder. Doesn't this make the two teams SISTER teams? (panggulo)

They can still make the trade now since they are not yet sister teams.

I guess the one complaining is from the SMC camp,

[neo]

They can still make the trade now since they are not yet sister teams.

I guess the one complaining is from the SMC camp,

and there is nothing to investigate as there is no trade yet!!!:rolleyes:

[KevinDurant]

The SMC camp also wants Williams. There is a tug of war.:)

[neo]

The SMC camp also wants Williams. There is a tug of war.:)

sus. there's so many available equal talent there waiting to be signed like mark andaya.

[cod3breaker]

Why don't the SMC buy the PBA instead and make all the games go in favor of their teams, errr.. I mean scripted just like the WWE. :D

[eindhow]

"2 teams, each with different needs, each with different concerns have shook hands... I'm sure you've already heard about it. I'm sure you have a good idea who are involved... Moving a mountain IS that easy. Ringing a BELL is that quick. Easy to get energy, If you have the WILL." (via Patricia Hizon)

[noilsen]

"2 teams, each with different needs, each with different concerns have shook hands... I'm sure you've already heard about it. I'm sure you have a good idea who are involved... Moving a mountain IS that easy. Ringing a BELL is that quick. Easy to get energy, If you have the WILL." (via Patricia Hizon)

Yes i saw it in the SG Facebook post... "have shook hands" meaning the deal is done?

[eindhow]

Yes i saw it in the SG Facebook post... "have shook hands" meaning the deal is done?

Most likely..:cool:

[sharky]

Peek and Belasco for KWill. Good deal.

[el scorcho]

Peek is the mountain...
Kelly WILLiams...

BELL?

[eindhow]

Peek is the mountain...
Kelly WILLiams...

BELL?

Raja BELL..:D

It's DonBELL BELLano..:D:p:D

[cod3breaker]

Raja BELL..:D

It's DonBELL BELLano..:D:p:D

Kenneth "Captain MarBELL" Duremdes. :D


Seriously, it's Mark ISip and Nic BELasco for Kelly WILLiams and Ryan Reyes? (not so sure though because the energy part wasn't in caps).

[manu_bol]

maybe,

peek, belasco, isip

for

williams

[weward]

:D <- coach toroman's face.

[nardy]

Moving a mountain IS that easy. Ringing a BELL is that quick. Easy to get energy, If you have the WILL." (via Patricia Hizon)

mountain = peek
bell = belasco
energy = jared or yee ????

for

will = williams

:eek::rolleyes:

[the_BuGs]

so what will happen to TnT for the next 2 years for a depleted lineup?

it will be a big sacrifice for MVP Part?

if it will happen, I imagine on 2012 TnT will get the No. 1 Pick!

and that would be....



Greg Slaughter!!!


K-will and Japeth will return to TnT


C - Greg
PF - Japeth
SF - K-will
SG - Jared (if still in TnT)
PG - Chris Tiu (for sure from draft picks)

waw....

[Dotch]

so what will happen to TnT for the next 2 years for a depleted lineup?

it will be a big sacrifice for MVP Part?

if it will happen, I imagine on 2012 TnT will get the No. 1 Pick!

and that would be....



Greg Slaughter!!!


K-will and Japeth will return to TnT


C - Greg
PF - Japeth
SF - K-will
SG - Jared (if still in TnT)
PG - Chris Tiu (for sure from draft picks)

waw....

that's called delaying gratification through calculated planning and moving

[qwertyasdf]

so what will happen to TnT for the next 2 years for a depleted lineup?

it will be a big sacrifice for MVP Part?

if it will happen, I imagine on 2012 TnT will get the No. 1 Pick!

and that would be....



Greg Slaughter!!!


K-will and Japeth will return to TnT


C - Greg
PF - Japeth
SF - K-will
SG - Jared (if still in TnT)
PG - Chris Tiu (for sure from draft picks)

waw....

good thinking.

i was a fan of ginebra, but that was years ago.

i might return to watch PBA and cheer for TnT this time around.:D

[cod3breaker]

Would there be enough salary cap space? :D

[capitantiago]

Would there be enough salary cap space? :D

yes. by 2012, it will be MVPBA already. hahaha

[ARISTOTLE]

Please comment on this: if MERALCO will have a team in the PBA, Is it logical and realistic to think that its core will be from Gilas?

[neo]

Please comment on this: if MERALCO will have a team in the PBA, Is it logical and realistic to think that its core will be from Gilas?

most likely no. for one they will not have the monopoly of draft picks. an expansion team usually draft the last (11th in the first round). if they'll buy the slr franchise then they will draft whatever is for slr including those coming from the draft (usually just one, 2 or 3 at the most in round 1). they cannot elevate anyone from the amatuers as they don't have a team in the pbl/la liga and gilas won't fit the bill (it's meralco not smart). and of course, they inherit the core of the slr team. if its an expansion team they can get players from any team through blind picks. not unless trades are met, they won't have the gilas players as its core.

[ARISTOTLE]

most likely no. for one they will not have the monopoly of draft picks. an expansion team usually draft the last (11th in the first round). if they'll buy the slr franchise then they will draft whatever is for slr including those coming from the draft (usually just one, 2 or 3 at the most in round 1). they cannot elevate anyone from the amatuers as they don't have a team in the pbl/la liga and gilas won't fit the bill (it's meralco not smart). and of course, they inherit the core of the slr team. if its an expansion team they can get players from any team through blind picks. not unless trades are met, they won't have the gilas players as its core.

So the premise is that they will buy SLR? I personally think they will have the Gilas core. And they will not buy the SLR franchise. Reasons? Money can do anything, make the impossible possible. Always has, always will. Rules? they do not matter when money talks louder.

[durden_tyler]

I personally think they will have the Gilas core

The question is HOW. Which is what is NEO's saying. Since Gilas has loads of potentially good players of course other teams will also be interested in their services which makes it highly improbable that they will be on the same team.

Of course, there is a possibility that the entire Gilas core/team be a constant fixture as a "guest" team for a number of conferences-- under a new team (maybe Meralco) but that is even more unlikely.

[neo]

So the premise is that they will buy SLR? I personally think they will have the Gilas core. And they will not buy the SLR franchise. Reasons? Money can do anything, make the impossible possible. Always has, always will. Rules? they do not matter when money talks louder.

i don't know about the way you read but i believe my post gave two scenarios: meralco as an expansion team and as a possible buyer of slr franchise. and in both scenarios, i said it won't be possible not unless gilas would be regarded as the amateur team under meralco or if trades occur.

[OjiesIII]

I think there's no such thing as a Temporary Trade. Loaning a player should have been an ideal scenario but Sta Lucia is not willing to do so and would rather get something in return.

The current Fiesta Conference is from March to July. The rookie draft is now usually held every August. Then the Philippine Cup is held from October to February the next year.

With this schedule the Asian Games in November is in conflict with the PBA schedule and we should realize that Sta Lucia losing Kelly Williams would be a big impact in its team competitiveness being the team's main man.

Am sorry but IMOHO Ali Peek is not a gonna be an enticing trade bait for SLR. In any trade it should be of equal impact to each team with regards to both in the financial aspect and basketball talent wise. Since Kelly is the prize here, business wise SLR would wish to get a deal more on its favor. And one has to consider that SLR has spent a considerable amount of money for Williams' hospitalization and medical expenses. So as a businessman for such an investment, you are expecting a considerable amount of return.

IMO sir nards, since its all for the sake of the country.. if i were Mr.Buddy Encarnado i would lend Kelly to GIlas in exchange of some players in the TnT.. and i want him back to my team after the stint in Gilas... for sure Kelly is going to be so much better under Coach T and as you said he is the Franchise player of their team.. it will also preserve the Balance in the PBA.. Kelly will never don another uniform in the PBA.. i think both will benefit on this deal.. but off course everything is so much easier said than done..

[ARISTOTLE]

i don't know about the way you read but i believe my post gave two scenarios: meralco as an expansion team and as a possible buyer of slr franchise. and in both scenarios, i said it won't be possible not unless gilas would be regarded as the amateur team under meralco or if trades occur.

What I am saying is this: NO SCENARIO IS NEEDED IF MONEY TALKS LOUDER. Get it?

[durden_tyler]

What I am saying is this: NO SCENARIO IS NEEDED IF MONEY TALKS LOUDER. Get it?

So it just happens, eh?

We go back to the original question: HOW?

[neo]

What I am saying is this: NO SCENARIO IS NEEDED IF MONEY TALKS LOUDER. Get it?

kid, you were asking if its realistic and logical to think that meralco (if they do join the pba) would get the core of gilas. i presented the logical probabilities and factual scenarios. i implied that it ain't probable unless (a) trade ensues or (b) gilas would be viewed as a non-pba club team of meralco (that or some new kick-ass non-gilas fil-foreigners comes to town by 2011 or 2012, in which case they'll be plenty of players to select from beyond the gilas guys). and i am sure mvp would love to have a couple of the gilas players also for tnt.

i am sorry, i thought you were asking for a rational (as u said realistic and logical) perspective. my apologies if my comment on your query does not satisfy your fantasy :p.

[The_Big_Cat]

mountain = peek
bell = belasco
energy = jared or yee ????

for

will = williams

:eek::rolleyes:


Marlou Aquino is playing in his last year of his contract with Sta. Lucia. This could mean that Sta. Lucia may not renew Aquino's contract at the end of the season. Sta. Lucia also lost Dennis Espino to a trade earlier this year. It will not be bad for the Realtors since they will also get a reliable veteran frontline of Peek and Belasco, whom are a bit younger than the aging frontline of Aquino and Espino.

The energy guy they are referring could be Mac Cardona?

[neo]

So it just happens, eh?

We go back to the original question: HOW?

kid's stuff :D

[neo]

Marlou Aquino is playing in his last year of his contract with Sta. Lucia. This could mean that Sta. Lucia may not renew Aquino's contract at the end of the season. Sta. Lucia also lost Dennis Espino to a trade earlier this year. It will not be bad for the Realtors since they will also get a reliable veteran frontline of Peek and Belasco, whom are a bit younger than the aging frontline of Aquino and Espino.

The energy guy they are referring could be Mac Cardona?

belasco is probably a year younger than espino and aquino? regardless peek and belasco are too old as trades for williams.

[The_Big_Cat]

belasco is probably a year younger than espino and aquino? regardless peek and belasco are too old as trades for williams.

Belasco entered the draft together with Andy Seigle in '97. Aquino belongs to the class of '96 while Espino in '95. Please correct me if the dates are wrong.

TNT could also throw in some cash considerations in the deal to compensate Sta. Lucia.

[durden_tyler]

Belasco entered the draft together with Andy Seigle in '97. Aquino belongs to the class of '96 while Espino in '95. Please correct me if the dates are wrong.

TNT could also throw in some cash considerations in the deal to compensate Sta. Lucia.

Let's not over-analyze on the worth of the trade on the court. Obviously, this is just a financial-driven move for Sta. Lucia. No Ifs and Buts about it.

[Sakamoto]

Belasco entered the draft together with Andy Seigle in '97. Aquino belongs to the class of '96 while Espino in '95. Please correct me if the dates are wrong.

TNT could also throw in some cash considerations in the deal to compensate Sta. Lucia.

its 100% correct. ali Peek entered the league as a popcola draftee in 1998.

[neo]

Belasco entered the draft together with Andy Seigle in '97. Aquino belongs to the class of '96 while Espino in '95. Please correct me if the dates are wrong.

TNT could also throw in some cash considerations in the deal to compensate Sta. Lucia.

correct.peek joined in 1998. espino and aquino are more or less of the same age (aquino was supposed to join the pba in 1994 but academic deficiencies surfaced resulting to adamson's suspension). we cannot use though the year of entry in the pba to estimate the age difference. asi and menk, even alapag, for example, joined the pba much later after their college stint.

cash?yes. i believe that's the moderating factor there that could make the deal fair and square.

[neo]

Kelly Williams soon a Texter
Philippine Daily Inquirer

First Posted 02:57:00 05/05/2010
http://sports.inquirer.net/professional/professional/view/20100505-268147/Kelly-Williams-soon-a-Texter


MANILA, Philippines—Negotiation for Kelly Williams’ transfer to Talk ‘N Text from Sta. Lucia Realty is expected to get going soon following the expression of gratitude of Texters governor Ricky Vargas recently.

In a radio interview Monday, Vargas thanked Realtors counterpart Buddy Encarnado for his willingness to let go of the 6-foot-7 Williams to play for Smart Gilas in several international tournaments later this year.

But Williams’ case will be far different from that of Japeth Aguilar’s, who the Texters acquired from Burger King (now Air21) but shipped immediately to the Philippine training pool under Serbian coach Rajko Toroman.

Williams, should the deal push through, will play as a Texter in the PBA and will not be used entirely by Smart Gilas, according to Vargas in the same interview.
Vargas added that in exchange, the Realtors can pick any player from the Talk ‘N text roster except Jimmy Alapag, Harvey Carrey, Jason Castro and Mac Cardona.

[neo]

Kelly Williams soon a Texter
Philippine Daily Inquirer

Williams, should the deal push through, will play as a Texter in the PBA and will not be used entirely by Smart Gilas, according to Vargas in the same interview.

this is what i was saying earlier ;)

[nashill]

kwill is already a seasoned player so he doesnt need to be a full time with the gilas program. he needs to attend regular practices though and the major tournaments to work the team chemistry. i hope he'l make it in jones cup.

[Trail Blazer]

Vargas added that in exchange, the Realtors can pick any player from the Talk ‘N text roster except Jimmy Alapag, Harvey Carrey, Jason Castro and Mac Cardona.

SLR should get ranidel de ocampo, nick belasco and jared dillinger for k-will....or else NO DEAL!

[ARISTOTLE]

kid's stuff :D

I am pretty sure it will happen KID.

[capitantiago]

If Meralco buys the SLR franchise, then they will not be considered as an expansion team. They will just take over lock, stock and barrel.

However, if they will apply for a new franchise, just like Red Bull (the last one to have done it), concessions to some rookie picks and to dispersal pool or whatever will be accorded to them.

Just my singkong duling coz some thought these two are similar. lol

[nardy]

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I know I said that updates were going to be light this week because I’m busy with the day job with the elections right around the corner (http://pcij.org/tag/2010-elections/), but I just needed to blog this because it concerns the whole Philippine basketball community. I never thought I’d see the words “Chris Tiu” and “Lihim na romansa” together in a headline, but here’s the big news, from Gerry Ocampo of People’s Journal (http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/showbiz-tsismis/8586-lihim-na-romansa-itinanggi-nina-daiana-menezes-christiu.html):


IKINAGULAT at itinanggi kaagad ni Daiana Menezes ang tsismis na pinoporma-han siya ni Chris Tiu. Wala raw ganu’ng pang-yayari. At ‘di rin daw totoo ang balitang madalas silang magkasama ngayon ni Chris sa mga gimikan.

Nang mainterbyu namin, maging si Chris Tiu ay nagulat sa balitang idini-date niya si Daiana Menezes.

Nang makausap namin siya sa taping ng Pinoy Record ay natigilan pa si Chris at hinanap sa kaibuturan ng me-morya kung nagkaroon nga ba ng pagkakataong nagka-sama sila sa lakaran ni Daiana. Wala siyang maisip.

Oo, sexy at maganda raw si Daiana, pero hindi raw sila nagde-date ng Brazilian model at isa sa hosts ng Eat Bulaga.

Inamin ni Chris na attracted din siya sa dalaga. Ang kaso, naka-concentrate lang talaga siya sa pagpa-practice with the RP Team kung saan si Chris ang captain ball, at lagare pa siya sa pagho-host ng Pinoy Record at Ripley`s Believe It Or Not.
Uh, yeah man?

We already know that our beloved Smart Gilas team captain’s MO is to deny everything, and stand in the corner and pray the rosary (http://firequinito.com/archives/4-Chris-Tiu-and-Jayvee-Casio-have-a-bromance-brewing.html). Also, we know that his heart really belongs to the departed former US ambassador to the Philippines, Kristie Kenney (http://firequinito.com/archives/124-Chris-Tius-hot-birthday-date.html). And Daina herself denies it on Twitter (http://twitter.com/daianam/status/13317455983).

Ok, I know this is all stupid, but I just wanted to post the photo of Daiana that ran on Journal, after the jump.

http://firequinito.com/uploads/basketball/daina-menezes.jpg

Posted by jaemark (http://firequinito.com/authors/1-jaemark) on May 5, 2010 at 15:19 (http://firequinito.com/archives/344-Chris-Tiu-and-Daina-Menezes-deny-rumors-that-they-are-secretly-dating.html)

[neo]

I am pretty sure it will happen KID.

its not that it wont happen or not. evrything is possible. and u could be dead right even. its just that i, durden, and some other fans would appreciate it better if u would explain how it would happen better. we're probably older than u, we love elucidation as we belong from an earlier generation. its cool tho bro.let's get back to this topic once the meralco saga becomes a reality.

[durden_tyler]

its not that it wont happen or not. evrything is possible. and u could be dead right even. its just that i, durden, and some other fans would appreciate it better if u would explain how it would happen better. we're probably older than u, we love elucidation as we belong from an earlier generation. its cool tho bro.let's get back to this topic once the meralco saga becomes a reality.

No, Neo. It will just happen. Like magic. Out of thin air. You just have to believe.

/sarcasm.

[neo]

No, Neo. It will just happen. Like magic. Out of thin air. You just have to believe.

/sarcasm.

yes. maybe that is how things worked now.

[neo]

The much-hyped Kelly Williams trade finally gained ground as the involved parties reportedly met on Wednesday and discussed possibilities surrounding the deal.

Talk ’N Text and Sta. Lucia Realty officials began to explore the best deal with regards to the transfer of Williams, the Realtors’s main man, to the Tropang Texters.

But while the Talk ’N Text stint of Williams is now almost guaranteed and could happen anytime soon, according to a source, things are still sketchy on what Sta. Lucia Realty will get in return.

There are unconfirmed reports that the Realtors are set to acquire Nic Belasco and Mark Isip for the services of Williams but there are other options swirling on the negotiation table.

Among them is Belasco, Isip and Ali Peek for Williams and Ryan Reyes. The other is a straight Williams-Jared Dillinger deal. The name of Talk ’N Text guard Pong Escobal has also been mentioned in the package.

But those trade scenarios are just rumors, according to Sta. Lucia team manager Buddy Encarnado.

“There’s no deal yet,” said Encarnado. “We will let you know if it’s already a done deal.”

The BusinessMirror learned that Williams will join the Talk ’N Text squad before the second round of the elimination phase of the KFC-Philippine Basketball Association Fiesta Cup starts, while Reyes will follow suit before the playoffs.

Talk ’N Text governor Ricky Vargas earlier denied that the Tropang Texters are also pursuing Reyes and the team’s top priority right now is Williams so that the one-time Most Valuable Player can be loaned to the Smart Gilas national team.

Williams, who was Sta. Lucia’s No. 1 pick in the 2006 draft and helped the team win the All-Filipino crown the following year, is on top of Smart Gilas head coach Rajko Toroman’s wish list.

Vargas said Talk ’N Text owner Manny V. Pangilinan won’t hesitate to loan a player for the sake of the Philippine team. Burger King top pick Japeth Aguilar was sent to Gilas via a similar scheme.

Aguilar, based on the agreement of the PBA and Talk ’N Text, has to finish all his commitment with the Smart Gilas before he can be utilized by the Tropang Texters in the professional league.

Whether Williams will follow the same path as Aguilar remains to be seen. PBA commissioner Sonny Barrios said Aguilar’s case cannot be used as a basis in movingWilliams automatically to the national team.

If the Williams trade materializes, he will be the latest Realtor to go after Dennis Espino (now with Coca-Cola), Dennis Miranda and Joseph Yeo (now both with San Miguel Beer).


source: http://teampilipinas.info/2010/05/kelly-williams-to-talk-n-text-done-deal.html

[CoJ]

wow, SLR is on a fire sale, I guess they have yet to recover from the financial crisis...I do feel that the SLR franchise might be sold, hence, to lower the price of the franchise, you sell the team's top players.....

apparently TNT would be raping Sta Lucia if they would trade for Kelly Williams without All Star Mac Cardona being involved (if ever Kelly Williams would be loaned to Smart Gilas and Cardona was the major piece of the trade, who would score for TNT? I don't see Alapag consistently scoring 20pts night in night out, we could all hate Cardona but the fact is, he is the one of the corner stone of the MVP franchise)

2012 will be the year for Talk and Text, imagine a starting lineup of Ranidel, Aguilar, Williams, Cardona and Alapag

chances are the core of Gilas (Tiu, Casio, Baracael, Rabeh and Ababou) might even end up to the TNT franchise by 2012....Finally some competition for the SMB franchise

[Jay P. Mercado]

It would almost be impossible for the nucleus of SMART-Gilas to join TNT as a group, unless other teams don't beat them to it in the PBA draft. The draft was specifically designed to ensure that all teams would have a shot at the topnotch players from the draft applicants, and even if TNT would want to get the core, they would simply be hot commodities to be passed up by other teams.

If Kelly Williams and Ryan Reyes are traded to TNT and then play for SMART-Gilas, so be it. TNT is paying for their salaries anyway, and if they join the national team, it would still be MVP paying for their salaries. If they play for TNT simultaneously with the national team, it might be counter productive as it would exhaust the players suiting up for both teams. The most likely scenario is for TNT to loan these two to SMART-Gilas first until the time comes when their services have been completed and they can go back to TNT. Two tired players won't work - and even their stint with the national team under Rajko Toroman would severely be compromised.

As for SLR, it would be to their best interest if they were to sell their franchise next season to retain Williams and Reyes to ensure that they can still sell the franchise at a very good price. Losing the two would lower their marketability, although there were reports that if SLR does disband, another MVP team (Meralco) might be the most interested buyer. My best guess is that this deal, if it pushes through, would have cash considerations to shore up SLR's financial woes. Another option is that TNT would continue shouldering the salaries of the players they will trade to SLR while absorbing the contracts of Williams and Reyes. That way, SLR would be able to maintain their team until the end of the season with lower labor costs on account of Williams and Reyes' salaries now being covered by TNT.

[neo]

As for SLR, it would be to their best interest if they were to sell their franchise next season to retain Williams and Reyes to ensure that they can still sell the franchise at a very good price. Losing the two would lower their marketability, although there were reports that if SLR does disband, another MVP team (Meralco) might be the most interested buyer. My best guess is that this deal, if it pushes through, would have cash considerations to shore up SLR's financial woes. Another option is that TNT would continue shouldering the salaries of the players they will trade to SLR while absorbing the contracts of Williams and Reyes. That way, SLR would be able to maintain their team until the end of the season with lower labor costs on account of Williams and Reyes' salaries now being covered by TNT.

meralco to the pba is not certain yet. there could be another company on the horizon. plus, it is also possible that barako bull also decide to fold-up.

some slr and tnt fans have been asking why would mvp in a rush-mode to get williams over to tnt (and to gilas) if they would have him anyway when meralco buy slr. 3 of several possible reasons could be: (1) meralco ain't returning to the pba, at least not next year; (2) meralco will reenter the pba but not by buying slr franchise but through buying another franchise or as an expansion team; and (c) other teams could beat them in the deal with slr, so even if meralco does buy slr's franchise, they may end up without williams. the memory of bong tan's sarcasm-driven rush trade of tanduay's key players before the franchise sale to fed ex is powerful :D.

[the_BuGs]

as i posted earlier... TNT will be a monster lineup after 2012


right now they have depleted lineup, 2 of the star players are loaned to GILAS ( Aguilar and K-will).. so expect you might see them(TnT) on the below standing... if they continue this.. fast forward 2012 they will get the No. 1 pick....... and that would be Greg Slaughter plus chris tiu or banchero from other picks :D .....


C- Greggy Boy
PF - Aguilar
SF - K-will
SG- banchero or lutz
PG - chris tiu or casio (of course alapag will retire at that time )


do you think that MVP will throw his investments that easy? I don't think so..


hey this is only my theory...

[mighty_lion]

Who are the players involved in K-will to TNT trade?

[cod3breaker]

Who are the players involved in K-will to TNT trade?

It's a secret. :D

[b3lowzro]

as i posted earlier... TNT will be a monster lineup after 2012


right now they have depleted lineup, 2 of the star players are loaned to GILAS ( Aguilar and K-will).. so expect you might see them(TnT) on the below standing... if they continue this.. fast forward 2012 they will get the No. 1 pick....... and that would be Greg Slaughter plus chris tiu or banchero from other picks :D .....


C- Greggy Boy
PF - Aguilar
SF - K-will
SG- banchero or lutz
PG - chris tiu or casio (of course alapag will retire at that time )


do you think that MVP will throw his investments that easy? I don't think so..


hey this is only my theory...

well most the players there should first submit themselves in the PBA Draft before being included in the line up of the team.

[the_BuGs]

well most the players there should first submit themselves in the PBA Draft before being included in the line up of the team.


that's what I said, if TnT will keep on losing for the next 2 years there is a chance they will get the no. 1 draft pick and that would be Greg.

[durden_tyler]

that's what I said, if TnT will keep on losing for the next 2 years there is a chance they will get the no. 1 draft pick and that would be Greg.

Exactly. Last time i looked there's only ONE number one pick. In an ideal world, Chris Tiu gets drafted by Purefoods. Well, just for plain looks.

[Trail Blazer]

that's what I said, if TnT will keep on losing for the next 2 years there is a chance they will get the no. 1 draft pick and that would be Greg.

do they still have their picks in the coming drafts?

[reamily]

do they still have their picks in the coming drafts?

who got the barako bull pick next 2 years TNT ? from the Reyes,Aljamal trade

I have been hearing that Rabeh has an escape draft clause and Lassiter is mulling the possibility of joining the draft:rolleyes::eek::eek::D

[nardy]

Exactly. Last time i looked there's only ONE number one pick. In an ideal world, Chris Tiu gets drafted by Purefoods. Well, just for plain looks.

hmm that would be an ideal pick for a Ryan Gregorio .... let's see how Firequinito would react on that hehehe ;)

[the_BuGs]

that's what I said, if TnT will keep on losing for the next 2 years there is a chance they will get the no. 1 draft pick and that would be Greg.

banchero,lutz, tiu and casio will come from draft picks as well (of course not number one 100% sure Greg will be the number one), but in the next 2 years time maybe TnT will get the most of the 1st round picks through trades or whatever..... or they can used the direct FIL-AM hire just like what happened to some other fil-ams like danny seigle.. but I don't know the rules now...



by that time PBA will be exciting again as the players will not be lousy and lazy anymore!

[Trail Blazer]

or they can used the direct FIL-AM hire just like what happened to some other fil-ams like danny seigle.. but I don't know the rules now...!

that's not anymore applicable....all players must now come through the draft...

[neo]

that's not anymore applicable....all players must now come through the draft...

except for expansion teams that has an amateur team, in which case they can request that they'll be allowed to bring some of their players to the league. there is a limit though on the number of players.

[neo]

slr fans are hot on talking about the rumor that mvp/meralco has already bought slr but that there is a news blackout.

durden and the other pba brains here, would this be possible? my understanding is that the pba comm. office will always be in the middle of franchise sale and that the board would approve it. not unless the slr fans are just talking about "gentleman agreement" type of sale.

[Jay P. Mercado]

Just plain rumor really, Neo.

The process is actually more intricate than how it appears. MERALCO has to formally apply for a PBA franchise. Sta. Lucia has to signify its intent of disbanding for the next season, thereby giving MERALCO a chance to buy out the Realtors' franchise. The Realtors will peg an amount and MERALCO will have to agree to this. The PBA steps in and reviews the sale and gives the final approval.

Of course, all these except for the PBA's approval can be done behind the scene. Meralco and Sta. Lucia management may already be negotiating for the sale and may have actually agreed to a price. It would just be a matter of time for them to follow the first two steps before SLR informs the league of their franchise sale to the utility firm.

[neo]

Just plain rumor really, Neo.

The process is actually more intricate than how it appears. MERALCO has to formally apply for a PBA franchise. Sta. Lucia has to signify its intent of disbanding for the next season, thereby giving MERALCO a chance to buy out the Realtors' franchise. The Realtors will peg an amount and MERALCO will have to agree to this. The PBA steps in and reviews the sale and gives the final approval.

Of course, all these except for the PBA's approval can be done behind the scene. Meralco and Sta. Lucia management may already be negotiating for the sale and may have actually agreed to a price. It would just be a matter of time for them to follow the first two steps before SLR informs the league of their franchise sale to the utility firm.

if ur hypothesis in the 2nd paragraph is correct, which is what some slr fans are whining about, then the question of one slr fan is interesting - why would mvp and vargas be on a rush mode to get williams to tnt? i mean he could no longer play this may in the champions cup and jones cup would still be in july. why go on the burden of a trade and lose some players if they could loan williams for gilas already once meralco took over the slr franchise?

maybe, just maybe, the other slr fan is correct. tnt is out to boost their chance of a first-ever import-reinforced conference championship. yes, they'll loan him to gilas but not after he helps tnt make history this conference and erase the scar of this year's philippine cup quarterfinal letdown. the hypothesis goes this way, meralco and slr have already agreed on the sale, tnt requested a trade for williams so tnt could use him NOW.

all of these of course is anchored on several hypotheses that are basically rumors. we can't blame them, the fans are heart-broken by the sudden turn of events. but maybe, again just maybe, there's some truth in their despair.

[Jay P. Mercado]

That's a possibility. Here's another point to consider:

TNT is MVP's primary team in the PBA, not unlike Danding's San Miguel Beer. If ever there would be a brand that MVP would protect, it would be his Tropang Texters simply because it's his primary source of business and that TNT has direct competition with Globe, Sun and San Miguel's future telecom company. He has no problem with Meralco since it is a utility firm that has monopoly on the distribution of electricity in Metro Manila.

If they wait for the sale to push through, it would be difficult for TNT to secure Kelly Williams' services since they would need a conduit team to facilitate the trading between two sister teams. If they do it now, then no conduit would be necessary. It would also help SLR's financial woes, since they would be giving up a player with max salary and might receive a sophomore pro in Jared Dillinger who's potential max salary is only P225k. That's P125k worth of monthly savings on SLR's part. Similarly, Williams' play has been lackluster lately, and it may appear that Buddy Encarnado has conceded that Williams' heart is already somewhere else and not anymore with his team. Which would probably explain Marlou Aquino's resurgence in the last game - as he may have been instructed to lead the team once more.

Of course, the downside here is that SLR losing K-Will (and maybe Ryan Reyes) would mean a lower sale value for the franchise. But this may have already been taken into consideration assuming MVP and Exie Robles / Buddy Encarnado have already met and agreed to the sale. Since Williams (and possibly Reyes) and Dillinger would still belong to the same owner, then the value may be retained.

Let's assume that in a regular franchise sale, SLR's worth is P100M with Williams around and would go down to P70M without him. If the two parties have already agreed that a sale would be consummated by the end of the season, the amount may still remain at P100M even without Williams since he'll be joining TNT anyway. Hence, SLR would still end up with a profitable sale from their franchise - with or without Williams.

Now, if SLR becomes Meralco without Williams, how would the team fare? Would they still be competitive? It would be hard but there's a catch here. A floundering team like SLR would find themselves in the bottom but would end up with the top pick/s of the draft. A non-competitive team for the next two seasons would result to getting a shot for the top rookies. Who will these top rookies be? The SMART-Gilas players most likely. And if MVP ends up buying the Barako Bulls franchise as well through Harbour Center, this is another non-competitive team that will eventually become stronger in the coming seasons with the arrival of the SMART-Gilas players. MVP would end up with 3 teams made up of the core of the SMART-Gilas players.

I'm only speculating here but the possibilities are likely. MVP's investment with SMART-Gilas may end up practical after all...

[neo]

That's a possibility. Here's another point to consider:

TNT is MVP's primary team in the PBA, not unlike Danding's San Miguel Beer. If ever there would be a brand that MVP would protect, it would be his Tropang Texters simply because it's his primary source of business and that TNT has direct competition with Globe, Sun and San Miguel's future telecom company. He has no problem with Meralco since it is a utility firm that has monopoly on the distribution of electricity in Metro Manila.

If they wait for the sale to push through, it would be difficult for TNT to secure Kelly Williams' services since they would need a conduit team to facilitate the trading between two sister teams. If they do it now, then no conduit would be necessary. It would also help SLR's financial woes, since they would be giving up a player with max salary and might receive a sophomore pro in Jared Dillinger who's potential max salary is only P225k. That's P125k worth of monthly savings on SLR's part. Similarly, Williams' play has been lackluster lately, and it may appear that Buddy Encarnado has conceded that Williams' heart is already somewhere else and not anymore with his team. Which would probably explain Marlou Aquino's resurgence in the last game - as he may have been instructed to lead the team once more.

Of course, the downside here is that SLR losing K-Will (and maybe Ryan Reyes) would mean a lower sale value for the franchise. But this may have already been taken into consideration assuming MVP and Exie Robles / Buddy Encarnado have already met and agreed to the sale. Since Williams (and possibly Reyes) and Dillinger would still belong to the same owner, then the value may be retained.

Let's assume that in a regular franchise sale, SLR's worth is P100M with Williams around and would go down to P70M without him. If the two parties have already agreed that a sale would be consummated by the end of the season, the amount may still remain at P100M even without Williams since he'll be joining TNT anyway. Hence, SLR would still end up with a profitable sale from their franchise - with or without Williams.

Now, if SLR becomes Meralco without Williams, how would the team fare? Would they still be competitive? It would be hard but there's a catch here. A floundering team like SLR would find themselves in the bottom but would end up with the top pick/s of the draft. A non-competitive team for the next two seasons would result to getting a shot for the top rookies. Who will these top rookies be? The SMART-Gilas players most likely. And if MVP ends up buying the Barako Bulls franchise as well through Harbour Center, this is another non-competitive team that will eventually become stronger in the coming seasons with the arrival of the SMART-Gilas players. MVP would end up with 3 teams made up of the core of the SMART-Gilas players.

I'm only speculating here but the possibilities are likely. MVP's investment with SMART-Gilas may end up practical after all...


nothing wrong with these speculations and scenarios. mvp ain't a business and corporate wizard for nothing.

[Jay P. Mercado]

I'm actually basing my prognosis from the events of the past. Danding Cojuangco's NCC program wasn't cheap also so you wonder what benefits he would be gaining from this in the long run. Perhaps a good name to produce a legacy (since his association with Marcos tainted his reputation) in basketball, perhaps because he saw the NCC team as forming the core of his PABL league (he founded the league) and take over basketball dominance from the PBA (Cojuangco loathed at the PBA back then which inspired him to set up the PABL). Or it may be his way of bringing up his players to his PBA team in the future. Of course, all these didn't happen because Cojuangco fled after EDSA I but we can only surmise.

Cojuangco is no slouch at business either. And since MVP's business approach somehow resembles Cojuangco's (gobbling up different corporations left and right), there's a practical end in all these efforts. I won't question MVP's love for the sport but you don't spend millions of pesos just "for the love" of it. Which is why I felt that this is the likelihood of him wanting to own more PBA teams to approximate SMC. Not only would he get the SMART-Gilas players, he would also have enough leverage in the PBA Board to go head-to-head with SMC when making decisions. MVP hates the fact that he doesn't get his way with the PBA Board and is probably envious of SMC's success of winning championships. MVP would want to replicate that, even surpass that with his own teams.

[capitantiago]

I'm actually basing my prognosis from the events of the past. Danding Cojuangco's NCC program wasn't cheap also so you wonder what benefits he would be gaining from this in the long run. Perhaps a good name to produce a legacy (since his association with Marcos tainted his reputation) in basketball, perhaps because he saw the NCC team as forming the core of his PABL league (he founded the league) and take over basketball dominance from the PBA (Cojuangco loathed at the PBA back then which inspired him to set up the PABL). Or it may be his way of bringing up his players to his PBA team in the future. Of course, all these didn't happen because Cojuangco fled after EDSA I but we can only surmise.

Cojuangco is no slouch at business either. And since MVP's business approach somehow resembles Cojuangco's (gobbling up different corporations left and right), there's a practical end in all these efforts. I won't question MVP's love for the sport but you don't spend millions of pesos just "for the love" of it. Which is why I felt that this is the likelihood of him wanting to own more PBA teams to approximate SMC. Not only would he get the SMART-Gilas players, he would also have enough leverage in the PBA Board to go head-to-head with SMC when making decisions. MVP hates the fact that he doesn't get his way with the PBA Board and is probably envious of SMC's success of winning championships. MVP would want to replicate that, even surpass that with his own teams.

nice series of discourse, sir.

[sharky]

Great Minds Think Alike...

well any true businessman knows that competition is good for business..

[Stallions 87]

The actual difference between Mvp and danding cojuangco is about the distance of heaven and earth (nee langit at lupa). MVp could be a direct comparison to Ramon Ang, who was a chief mechanic of Dandings motorpool of sportscar and most trusted caretaker during the days of his exile to Los Angeles. Mvp is managing for Metropacific and is a salaried director, the real owners of MetroPacific should be known to legions of basketball fans and SBP are the foreign consortium led by Indonesians who holds office in Hong Kong. MVP again hold shares in Meralco but so do you and me.... but for whom the bulk of the shares MVP hold for in Meralco could be very well found in the first seven letters of the alphabet nee from A B C D E F G.

The Cojuangcos passion for basketball is unquestionable and undying thru the years and evident during the good times and bad times, the laters passion for basketball has been very recent and very aggressive like every Pedro and Juan going to a karaoke bar or nightclub viewing their GROs in floorshows and later queueing for the ladies to be tabled and then for some...

Kelly Williams would be a welcomed addition to the National Team, i will take him seven days a week and twice on sundays for his sheer leaping ability and is the only viable threat in the National Team for the big forward position. But having Williams alone would just be a waste of time and resources, there is a need for Gabe Norwood, Ryan Reyes, Jimmy Alapag, Sonny Thoss, Kirby Raymundo, James Yap and 1 or 2 cagers from SMC consortium.

The beginning of the next PBA season, we might see MVP holding teams in the PBA for Tnt, Slr - Meralco, Barako bull, and lastly the new entry Harbour Center which mvp will have vested shares aswell. For this Forums fans, not to worry about up and coming players in the Gilas team... i see 4 possible PBA teams where former national cagers could continue and prosper in their career in Asias very first pay for pay league.

For my 2 cents, Meralco reviving PBA bid would be a bad move.... my electricity bill has been compounded beyond reasonable doubts and it would be unfair for every Juan and Pedro to be paying for additional power hike costs just to fulfill one single persons lust to add another team in the PBA.... cheers!

[capitantiago]

For my 2 cents, Meralco reviving PBA bid would be a bad move.... my electricity bill has been compounded beyond reasonable doubts and it would be unfair for every Juan and Pedro to be paying for additional power hike costs just to fulfill one single persons lust to add another team in the PBA.... cheers!

undoubtedly, Meralco will be the most hated team in the PBA. lol

[durden_tyler]

undoubtedly, Meralco will be the most hated team in the PBA. lol

Come to think of it, since the public (on the assumption that they will) hate the Meralco team they can be the perfect complement to Ginebra. The Anti-Ginebra. MVP vs Cojuangco. Smart vs SMB.

Oh boy, i am liking this already.

[kerouac82]

Come to think of it, since the public (on the assumption that they will) hate the Meralco team they can be the perfect complement to Ginebra. The Anti-Ginebra. MVP vs Cojuangco. Smart vs SMB.

Oh boy, i am liking this already.

I just got flyers from this new telco called Wi-tribe. It says on the flyer, "Owned by San Miguel". Looks like SMB is stepping up the anti-MVP campaign.

[weward]

I just got flyers from this new telco called Wi-tribe. It says on the flyer, "Owned by San Miguel". Looks like SMB is stepping up the anti-MVP campaign.

SMC tried to be the first to introduce wimax technology in our country-reported it will kill every internet service providers in our country, but MVP's company got their hands on it first.:D

but honestly, the smc wimax plan is the best i've read. the globe and smart wimax,both are trash,it doest even looked like its wimax.:D


looks like there is a silent chess match going on..:D

[Trail Blazer]

undoubtedly, Meralco will be the most hated team in the PBA. lol

yes, too bad shell already disbanded!

[capitantiago]

yes, too bad shell already disbanded!

then SMC shouldn't bring in Petron. lol

[TrueBluePinoy]

I'll give Meralco at least a season unless they decide to lower power rates or change to another franchise banner.:p

[pepman]

I'll give Meralco at least a season unless they decide to lower power rates or change to another franchise banner.:p

Indeed!

[Trail Blazer]

Indeed!

whats up, mr. sean kingston? hehehe...

[The_Big_Cat]

Kelly Willilams will play perfectly in Chot Reyes' system, the Run 'n gun style.

Alapag will be their "Steve Nash", Kelly Williams will be their "Shawn Marion" and Jason Castro as "Leandro Barbosa".

[capitantiago]

Kelly Willilams will play perfectly in Chot Reyes' system, the Run 'n gun style.

Alapag will be their "Steve Nash", Kelly Williams will be their "Shawn Marion" and Jason Castro as "Leandro Barbosa".

then they should need an amar'''''''''''''''''''''e. lol

[neo]

then they should need an amar'''''''''''''''''''''e. lol

in the future, they'll have aguilar ;)

[capitantiago]

in the future, they'll have aguilar ;)

tama. and the two would always grumble. lol

[durden_tyler]

Kelly Williams, Ryan Reyes for Pong Escobal, Nic Belasco and Ali Peek??

Dayum, that sounds like a good trade! Both for TNT and Gilas!!!

[neo]

Kelly Williams, Ryan Reyes for Pong Escobal, Nic Belasco and Ali Peek??

Dayum, that sounds like a good trade! Both for TNT and Gilas!!!

for me no. they need a dillinger to at least provide some agility and outside shooting in the sf position or size at the SG position. besides a frontcout of aquino, peek, and belasco would be too old for comfort but for short-term purposes it could work. i still like them to get dillinger though if slr would like to pacify their fans.

[Trail Blazer]

for me no. they need a dillinger to at least provide some agility and outside shooting in the sf position or size at the SG position. besides a frontcout of aquino, peek, and belasco would be too old for comfort but for short-term purposes it could work. i still like them to get dillinger though if slr would like to pacify their fans.

i'd also get ranidel de ocampo (i dont think he's in the untouchable list of TNT)...they'll be losing probably the best player in the PBA right now, so they should just get quality players in return....ranidel, peek and escobal ain't bad...

[durden_tyler]

for me no. they need a dillinger to at least provide some agility and outside shooting in the sf position or size at the SG position. besides a frontcout of aquino, peek, and belasco would be too old for comfort but for short-term purposes it could work. i still like them to get dillinger though if slr would like to pacify their fans.

If you noticed, i did not even mention SLR ;) i don't pretty much care for a team on a fire sale--- financially, they will win with any deal with TNT anyway and that is their sole target.

i am more concerned on how TNT will look like (Reyes and Williams) and Gilas (when Williams is loaned) and TNT during the time of this loan--- still a powerhouse bunch even without Kelly in the line-up!

[neo]

If you noticed, i did not even mention SLR ;) i don't pretty much care for a team on a fire sale--- financially, they will win with any deal with TNT anyway and that is their sole target.

i am more concerned on how TNT will look like (Reyes and Williams) and Gilas (when Williams is loaned) and TNT during the time of this loan--- still a powerhouse bunch even without Kelly in the line-up!

i am not a fan of slr but i just feel for their fans. if they'll go after this season or next season, they should at least try to be competitive enough as a tribute to their fans.

[amamangloy]

Rashad Bell rejoins Coke (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/190491/bell-rejoins-tigers-sees-action-versus-texters)

[neo]

Rashad Bell rejoins Coke (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/190491/bell-rejoins-tigers-sees-action-versus-texters)

goodluck to him. hopefully he'll get over the heartbreaks as his first stint with coke and his stint with tnt both ended in classic but heartbreaking moments in the wildcard.

[nardy]

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/images/mst/0.jpg


Tuesday, May 11, 2010


SMC starts talks on sale of Ginebra by Jenniffer B. Austria

Diversifying conglomerate San Miguel Corp. has started talks on the sale of its liquor unit Ginebra San Miguel Inc. to unit San Miguel Brewery Inc.
San Miguel Brewery is a joint venture between San Miguel and Japan’s Kirin Holdings Co.


Informed sources said the two parties expect to complete the transaction within the year. Sources said the acquisition price may range between P39 and P40 per share.


Share price of Ginebra closed at P33 per share last Friday, indicating a market capitalization of P9.2 billion.



San Miguel earlier said it was preparing to sell shares in core subsidiaries, namely Ginebra, the nation’s largest gin distiller, San Miguel Brewery Inc., San Miguel Pure Foods Co. and its packaging business to generate capital to fund its diversification.


San Miguel said its planned expansion into high-growth industries such as energy, infrastructure, telecommunications and mining would give the company a higher return that it was getting from core businesses.


Ginebra operates three liquor bottling facilities in Mandaue City, Cebu; Sta. Barbara, Pangasinan; and Cabuyao, Laguna. The company, in a bid to augment the bottling capacity of these facilities, entered into toll manufacturing agreements with third parties, whose facilities are located in San Fernando, Pampanga; Calamba, Laguna and Lucena, Quezon.
The company’s main products are Ginebra San Miguel, GSM Blue, Gran Matador Brandy and Vino Kulafu, among others.


Distileria Bago Inc., one of the company’s subsidiaries, converts cane sugar molasses into alcohol in Bago City, Negros Occidental. Another subsidiary, Agricrops Industries Inc., is engaged in the production of cassava-starch milk, an alternative raw material for the production of alcohol.

[mighty_lion]

From financial standpoint, I dont understand SMC's move to sell Ginebra. OT anyway.

[nardy]

From financial standpoint, I dont understand SMC's move to sell Ginebra. OT anyway.

If we are to believe talks in the business community .... ECJ is getting ready to retire and move to Australia for good.

[RickyPBA]

If we are to believe talks in the business community .... ECJ is getting ready to retire and move to Australia for good.

owww and how about his "girls" here?

[neo]

Mix your colors

green
black
blue.

3 colors. 9 players. Let's see how they'll do.

Former MVP plus energy plus h20 to BLUE.

Mountain plus bell plus the other side of ping to GREEN.
Add 2 servings of black- 2 who were controversial in their last year of college mind you.

What will be left for black? Hmmmm. Think think think.

[kerouac82]

Mix your colors

green
black
blue.

3 colors. 9 players. Let's see how they'll do.

Former MVP plus energy plus h20 to BLUE.

Mountain plus bell plus the other side of ping to GREEN.
Add 2 servings of black- 2 who were controversial in their last year of college mind you.

What will be left for black? Hmmmm. Think think think.

Parts of this are easy.

Williams + Reyes + Charles Water to TNT.

Peek + (dunno) + Escobal to SLR.

Black = Barako? Maybe Ogie Menor and another one?

[eindhow]

Mix your colors

green
black
blue.

3 colors. 9 players. Let's see how they'll do.

Former MVP plus energy plus h20 to BLUE.

Mountain plus bell plus the other side of ping to GREEN.
Add 2 servings of black- 2 who were controversial in their last year of college mind you.

What will be left for black? Hmmmm. Think think think.

To Blue: Kelly Williams, Ryan Reyes and Charles Waters..

To Green: Ali Peek, Nic Belasco and Pong Escobal (Other side of ping huh.. I was gonna answer LACSON..:cool:

To Black: Think think think.

[lovejones]

Mix your colors

green
black
blue.

3 colors. 9 players. Let's see how they'll do.

Former MVP plus energy plus h20 to BLUE.

Mountain plus bell plus the other side of ping to GREEN.
Add 2 servings of black- 2 who were controversial in their last year of college mind you.

What will be left for black? Hmmmm. Think think think.

i just hate thinking :confused:. can somebody here be a killjoy and explain what patricia is talking about?

[neo]

i just hate thinking :confused:. can somebody here be a killjoy and explain what patricia is talking about?

my bet:

williams, reyes and waters to tnt

peek, belasco, and escobal to slr (plus money)
plus
menor and duncil to slr

isip plus a lot of money to barako

[eindhow]

Oh yeah.. The controversial part.. One is definitely Menor.. Duncil I think is untouchable at Barako Bull..

And yeah.. Think think think means isip isip isip..

[kerouac82]

Oh yeah.. The controversial part.. One is definitely Menor.. Duncil I think is untouchable at Barako Bull..

And yeah.. Think think think means isip isip isip..

I remember Duncil's age being questioned in 2006. Could be him.

[neo]

whatever, i don't like the trade. im hoping there is still 1 or 2 missing pieces on the trade. with that, the other teams might question it as it is basically beneficial to tnt. i do hope they won't question it so the loaning of williams to gilas will be processed after the trade is approved.

now, if slr is on financial woes, why in this world would they want 5 more players to pay????

some of many possible reasons:

a. they're fine and they want young players to rebuild the team while the oldies may have expiring contracts or at least lesser than what aquino might demand after his contract end this season :)

b. they wanted to take duncil and menor because mvp likes them in preparation for a meralco takeover ;)

c. there much money involved that salaries of 5 players is no problem for now (can be an addition to the first two reasons) :rolleyes:

d. none of the above, hence the other possible reasons :D

[mighty_lion]

If it is not Duncil then its Aljamal. Aljamal was suspended by NCAA Mancom in his final year as a Red Lion for wearing rubber shoes during PBA draft workouts and in process, and was stripped of the MVP award in favor of Kelvin Dela Pena.


Aljamal, Menor and Escobal in SLR is like a reunion.

[neo]

If it is not Duncil then its Aljamal. Aljamal was suspended by NCAA Mancom in his final year as a Red Lion for wearing rubber shoes during PBA draft workouts and in process, and was stripped of the MVP award in favor of Kelvin Dela Pena.


Aljamal, Menor and Escobal in SLR is like a reunion.

probable yes. but isn't it that he's officially just on loan from tnt to barako? if that's the case, then the bulls just gave up one player (which is better) for one player. the only question in such a scenario is whether slr will shoulder his salary or will tnt will still pay for it ala barako bull concession :rolleyes:

[neo]

Trillo wants PBA to follow stricter trade rules
05/12/2010 | 09:02 PM

Former Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) chairman Joaqui Trillo will propose to the board to immediately impose stricter rules in trading players.

Trillo said it’s about time the PBA come up with certain guidelines since, he believes, the restricted trade list (RTL) is no longer in effect.

He would suggest the idea in the PBA board’s next meeting in order to make sure that everything would be fair from all 10 teams and avoid any lopsided trades in the future.

“I might bring that all up to the next board meeting. A guideline should be made clear, probably a new one in lieu of the old one that has been scrapped," Trillo added,

Derby Ace board governor and current league vice chairman Rene Pardo said before the RTL was used to keep the parity among teams involved in trades.

“Before, a player placed on the RTL cannot be traded to anybody except to players who are also in the RTL," said Pardo. “But the RTL has loopholes as well because a team can simply change a player in the RTL for another player that’s why the league has decided to scrap this old ruling."

A team owner, who requested anonymity, said strong teams became stronger in the absence of a guideline that should be implemented as far as trading of players are concerned.

“The public wants to see balanced competition and the public wants to have an exciting league. People don’t want to see games so predictable," said the team owner.

PBA commissioner Sonny Barrios said that all of these things are taken into serious consideration. “The RTL was removed since the board wants a free trading and that they’re all mature enough on what are the needs of their respective teams."

“But once we see lopsided trades happening, that would have tremendous effect on the league, then that’s the time we’ll come up with certain guidelines."

Barrios said that instead of deciding on his own, he would ask PBA board chairman Lito Alvarez to call for a special meeting. “But that would happen if and when a trade is made. Right now we’re all talking theoretically."

Coca-Cola board governor JB Baylon opposed a suggestion by one team executive that they the PBA should follow the NBA’s trade guidelines where they swap players based on their salaries.

“True, that’s a good suggestion, but what if a team sees a promise in a cheap player and is willing to give up a fading star who is earning much? It really depends on the needs of a team," said Baylon in a text message.

Alaska is one of the teams vocal enough to air its views in what it perceived as one-sided trades happening in the PBA. Coach Tim Cone is one of them.

“The backroom deals that go on in the league never fail to amaze me. How do we keep balance when the best teams get all the best draft picks? By definition, the draft/salary cap are supposed to ensure league balance. Without them, league schism between haves and have-nots widens," said Cone in his Twitter account.

“I'll be the first to say that the salary cap is being abused, that's for sure, but certainly not by Alaska. Our owner is very strict," he added. – JVP/Rey Joble, GMANews.TV

[FTW]

Done Deal:

TNT - Williams, Reyes, Waters

SLR - Peek, Belasco, Aljamal, Menor

BARAKO - Escobal, Isip

[Cool Cat]

Done Deal:

TNT - Williams, Reyes, Waters

SLR - Peek, Belasco, Aljamal, Menor

BARAKO - Escobal, Isip

source?.....

[FTW]

^^ umm, Snow Badua?

anyway, its apparently a done deal and word has it that TNT might be looking for a Legit Center. Only Legitimate center on the team are Shawn Daniels and JR Quinahan. (acc. to sir Than)

I'm taking a Wild Guess, but don't take my word for it but I smell something EVill.

[amamangloy]

source?.....

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/190836/slrs-exit-plan-kelly-ryan-traded-to-tnt

[neo]

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/190836/slrs-exit-plan-kelly-ryan-traded-to-tnt

the news froom gma says escobal for slr and only isip plus a pick to barako. pretty much in tune with patricia's tweet.

so which is the more accurate? (not that its that important :D)

[saints13]

Brinaso na!
translation: elbowed!

Williams and Reyes to TNT then will soon be loaned to Gilas. I thought it was only Williams? or will Ryan Reyes stay with TNT while only Williams will be loaned to the Champions Cup-bound Gilas NT?

Peek, Belasco, Menor, Escobal, Aljamal to Sta. Lucia? meaning 2 guys will move to the reserve list...2 guys out, 4 guys in...for sure someone will be pushed out...

Barako Bull getting only Isip and a future draft pick...[whom they might draft if they're still in the PBA in that said future draft.]

[neo]

trade officially approved by barrios...

Trade#1: TNT gets Menor, Barako gets TNT's 2010 2nd rd pick.

Trade#2: TNT gets K-Will & RyanR, SLR gets Peek, Belasco, Escobal & Menor.

Trade#3: SLR gets Aljamal, Barako gets Waters.

Trade#4: TNT gets Waters, Barako gets Isip.


kuripot talaga ng tnt, 2nd round lang binigay para ke menor :D

(trans: tnt is very clever)

now, eala and lim should start working for the loaning of williams to gilas. and while they are processing it, williams and reyes will help tnt win the fiesta cup crown :rolleyes:. if not, then expect trades and coaching changes before next season.

[KevinDurant]

Trillo wants PBA to follow stricter trade rules
05/12/2010 | 09:02 PM

Former Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) chairman Joaqui Trillo will propose to the board to immediately impose stricter rules in trading players.

Trillo said it’s about time the PBA come up with certain guidelines since, he believes, the restricted trade list (RTL) is no longer in effect.

He would suggest the idea in the PBA board’s next meeting in order to make sure that everything would be fair from all 10 teams and avoid any lopsided trades in the future.

“I might bring that all up to the next board meeting. A guideline should be made clear, probably a new one in lieu of the old one that has been scrapped," Trillo added,

Derby Ace board governor and current league vice chairman Rene Pardo said before the RTL was used to keep the parity among teams involved in trades.

“Before, a player placed on the RTL cannot be traded to anybody except to players who are also in the RTL," said Pardo. “But the RTL has loopholes as well because a team can simply change a player in the RTL for another player that’s why the league has decided to scrap this old ruling."

A team owner, who requested anonymity, said strong teams became stronger in the absence of a guideline that should be implemented as far as trading of players are concerned.

“The public wants to see balanced competition and the public wants to have an exciting league. People don’t want to see games so predictable," said the team owner.

PBA commissioner Sonny Barrios said that all of these things are taken into serious consideration. “The RTL was removed since the board wants a free trading and that they’re all mature enough on what are the needs of their respective teams."

“But once we see lopsided trades happening, that would have tremendous effect on the league, then that’s the time we’ll come up with certain guidelines."

Barrios said that instead of deciding on his own, he would ask PBA board chairman Lito Alvarez to call for a special meeting. “But that would happen if and when a trade is made. Right now we’re all talking theoretically."

Coca-Cola board governor JB Baylon opposed a suggestion by one team executive that they the PBA should follow the NBA’s trade guidelines where they swap players based on their salaries.

“True, that’s a good suggestion, but what if a team sees a promise in a cheap player and is willing to give up a fading star who is earning much? It really depends on the needs of a team," said Baylon in a text message.

Alaska is one of the teams vocal enough to air its views in what it perceived as one-sided trades happening in the PBA. Coach Tim Cone is one of them.

“The backroom deals that go on in the league never fail to amaze me. How do we keep balance when the best teams get all the best draft picks? By definition, the draft/salary cap are supposed to ensure league balance. Without them, league schism between haves and have-nots widens," said Cone in his Twitter account.

“I'll be the first to say that the salary cap is being abused, that's for sure, but certainly not by Alaska. Our owner is very strict," he added. – JVP/Rey Joble, GMANews.TV

They should not allow sister teams to trade with one another even if there's a conduit.

The salaries of players must be known by the public just like in the NBA, so that the salary cap could be followed.

Teams like RoS, Alaska , SLR must stand together against the SMC block.

[Trail Blazer]

They should not allow sister teams to trade with one another even if there's a conduit.

The salaries of players must be known by the public just like in the NBA, so that the salary cap could be followed.

Teams like RoS, Alaska , SLR must stand together against the SMC block.

ahhmm mr. trillo, who started those lopsided deals? i think it was your team, tony dela cruz and rich alvarez for rob duat....the other teams just followed suit..

[lima-lima]

The backroom deals that go on in the league never fail to amaze me. How do we keep balance when the best teams get all the best draft picks? By definition, the draft/salary cap are supposed to ensure league balance. Without them, league schism between haves and have-nots widens," said Cone in his Twitter account.


Tim Cone has been in the league for a number of years already and still backroom deals amazes him. When alaska wins, its a balanced league , when it looses,he says its hard to fight a three-necked monster. A balance league is just pure fantasy. Where in the world can you find a balance league? Basketball organizations like countries will always have "the have and have-nots orgs." Try to look at the NBA or locally the UAAP and NCAA, same story line the have and the have-nots. Basketball at this level involves money 3x.

One deal that everybody considers a big back- room deal is the Ilgauskus return to Cleveland. A lot people smelled smoke but never saw the fire or did not bother to see the fire.

PS. Hope you can get Noynoy- like commish. "Isusulong ko kayo sa matuwid na daan" Trans: "I'm no gay , I'm straight!"

I still love the PBA

[Cool Cat]

http://www.pba.ph/files/images/051310%203-way%20trade%20pix.jpg

Thu, 05/13/2010 - 15:57 — junior

Talk n Text and Sta. Lucia Realty finally sealed their trade deal Wednesday that had the Smart-PLDT franchise acquiring not just Kelly Williams but also Ryan Reyes and Charles Waters.
In the first three-team trade submitted to the PBA Commissioner’s Office, TnT first acquired Ogie Menor from Barako Energy Coffee in exchange for the Tropang Texters’ second round pick in the 2010 Annual Draft. Talk n Text then immediately shipped Menor, along with Ali Peek, Nic Belasco, Pong Escobal, to Sta. Lucia. In return, the Realtors had to give up their marquee players, Williams and Reyes.
An hour later, another three-team deal involving the same teams reached the PBA Office. In the trade, Barako Energy Coffee gave up Yousif Aljamal to Sta. Lucia for the Realtors’ Charles Waters. But Waters was then dealt by the Coffee Masters to TnT in exchange for Mark Isip.
The Smart-PLDT ball club worked for these deals with the intention of getting Williams to play for the Smart Gilas RP team in future major international tourneys.
“Malabo na siguro sa Champions Cup dahil malapit na yon. Pero talagang gusto ni coach Rajko Toroman si Kelly, so hihingin ko sa PBA Board ang approval for Kelly to be loaned to the RP team,” said Smart-PLDT top official Ricky Vargas.
“I’ll have the Williams issue calendared for the next PBA Board meeting,” Vargas added.
Vargas, however, stressed Williams’ priority would be Talk n Text.
“Iba ang magiging case ni Williams kaysa kay Japeth Aguilar,” said Vargas, explaining Williams would be loaned to Smart Gilas on a short-term basis, unlike Aguilar who’s committed to play for the RP team at least until after the 2011 Fiba Asia Olympic qualifier.
Vargas said Toroman is also eying Jarred Dillinger for the RP team.
With the addition of Reyes, Vargas said they now have a surplus of talents at the backcourt – something which the TnT top official considered “a good problem.”
“Sabi ko nga kay coach Chot ‘you have a good problem, now the challenge begins,’” said Vargas.
“Obviously, I’m happy about our acquisitions but sad to see our guys leave as we’ve been playing great team ball and they’re integral to our chemistry,” said Reyes.
Sta. Lucia Governor and team manager Buddy Encarnado said they gave up their marquee players certainly with a heavy heart.
Encarnado was in tears after informing Williams and Reyes of the development minutes after the Sta. Lucia – Alaska game Wednesday night.
“It’s beyond me,” said Encarnado. (SB)

http://www.pba.ph/topstories/it%E2%80%99s-final-%E2%80%93-talk-n-text-lands-williams-reyes

[SG 3000]

Meralco joins PBA next year?
By Nelson Beltran (The Philippine Star) Updated May 14, 2010 12:00 AM


MANILA, Philippines - Manila Electric Company (Meralco) is set on joining the Philippine Basketball Association next year.

Smart-PLDT top official Ricky Vargas said Meralco senior shareholders are seriously considering the idea of being part of the pro league. Smart-PLDT is a major Meralco stockholder.

A reliable source said major Meralco shareholders would shoulder the expenses of the company’s PBA participation, thus, power consumers have no reason to disapprove the plan.

“The public will be spared of any expenses. It will be borne by the senior shareholders,” said The STAR source.

Like the Barcelona FC carrying the banner of Unicef, the Meralco team will help promote an advocacy while competing in the PBA. Most likely, Meralco will carry the banner of Gawad Kalinga.

Vargas said Meralco is looking at either buying an existing franchise or becoming an expansion team.

Barring any hitches, Smart-PLDT – owner of the Talk n Text Tropang Texters – would have two PBA teams by next season.

Meralco used to run a team in the old MICAA days with Robert Jaworski and Big Boy Reynoso among the star players.

[saints13]

MVP group will have 2 new teams? possibly buying the Photokina and Sta. Lucia franchise... mas maganda bilhin na lang nila yun mga existing franchise na obviously nagdedeteriorate yun roster...kaysa naman mag-expansion teams pa, tapos same owners din lang. Ang mangyayari e SMC-teams vs. MVP teams.

translation:
On my POV as a fan..It would be better to see if the new entries in the PBA would buy those not-so-competetive franchises rather than having two new expansion teams... imagine watching a double header with a team playing with nothing to lose and not worthy of winning...waste of time and money..

[SG 3000]

MVP group will have 2 new teams? possibly buying the Photokina and Sta. Lucia franchise... mas maganda bilhin na lang nila yun mga existing franchise na obviously nagdedeteriorate yun roster...kaysa naman mag-expansion teams pa, tapos same owners din lang. Ang mangyayari e SMC-teams vs. MVP teams.

translation:
On my POV as a fan..It would be better to see if the new entries in the PBA would buy those not-so-competetive franchises rather than having two new expansion teams... imagine watching a double header with a team playing with nothing to lose and not worthy of winning...waste of time and money..

just one new team in meralco. some slr fans have been saying that negotiations between slr and meralco is already a done deal. one fan called the slr-tnt-barako trades as moro-moro. their hypothesis is somewhat similar to what one forumer named jay mercado posted before on the possible plans of mvp and tnt.

[sharky]

now i see why the San Beda boys are shipped to SLR coz it will be under MVP next year.. How Lucky....

[qnxt]

Funny about the PBA now, It seems it's just a Company Sportsfest. They Are working for one company- and have recreation...

Last conference Semi Finals was an INTER-DIVISION example.
Only Alaska was the Guest. Although I still Watch PBA, it's the only Choice I have specially that the NBA is nearing to the Finals. :D

[SG 3000]

Reactions on the Trade
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25182:williams-triggers-rigodon-de-honor&catid=31:sports&Itemid=65

Having Williams, Ranidel de Ocampo, Mark Cardona, Reyes and Jimmy Alapag in the starting unit in an All-Filipino tournament is now the envy of many coaches in the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA).

“Natuloy ba?” Ginebra coach Jong Uichico said when asked for his comment on the trade. “Then, instant champion sila.”

Barako Coffee mentor Junel Baculi agreed and likened the Tropang Texters to a Philippine national basketball team that is deep in every position.

For Alaska grand-slam coach Tim Cone, the transfer of Williams and Reyes “destroys the competitive balance in the league.”

“Historically, TNT is a major power in the league, now Kelly and Ryan without losing any major player, they have become a superpower that no PBA team can match in terms of roster strength,” said B-MEG Derby Ace coach Ryan Gregorio.

“Obviously, I’m happy about our acquisitions but sad to see our guys leave as we’ve been playing great team ball and they are integral to our chemistry,” said Reyes, as his wards are on a five-game winning streak for a second-best 6-2 slate.

[ramzaruglia]

Reactions on the Trade
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25182:williams-triggers-rigodon-de-honor&catid=31:sports&Itemid=65

Having Williams, Ranidel de Ocampo, Mark Cardona, Reyes and Jimmy Alapag in the starting unit in an All-Filipino tournament is now the envy of many coaches in the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA).

“Natuloy ba?” Ginebra coach Jong Uichico said when asked for his comment on the trade. “Then, instant champion sila.”

Barako Coffee mentor Junel Baculi agreed and likened the Tropang Texters to a Philippine national basketball team that is deep in every position.

For Alaska grand-slam coach Tim Cone, the transfer of Williams and Reyes “destroys the competitive balance in the league.”

“Historically, TNT is a major power in the league, now Kelly and Ryan without losing any major player, they have become a superpower that no PBA team can match in terms of roster strength,” said B-MEG Derby Ace coach Ryan Gregorio.

“Obviously, I’m happy about our acquisitions but sad to see our guys leave as we’ve been playing great team ball and they are integral to our chemistry,” said Reyes, as his wards are on a five-game winning streak for a second-best 6-2 slate.

There's your problem:D

[SG 3000]

Meralco joining PBA next year, says source

By Musong R. Castillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines—The Manila Electric Company (Meralco), Robert Jaworski’s old team in the now-defunct MICAA, will be making shock waves in the Philippine Basketball Association next year.

The Philippine Daily Inquirer learned Thursday that the power distribution company has all but sealed a deal to buy a financially strapped PBA franchise and its entire roster and return to basketball in the league’s 36th season.

Details of the deal are being kept under wraps and the Inquirer source had asked that the team not be identified pending the formal signing.

The worldwide economic crunch and the high cost of maintaining a team in the PBA were the reasons cited for the fold-up of the franchise after a long and storied league participation, leaving the door open for Meralco, a moneyed firm where Smart-PLDT has a major stake.

Because Smart-PLDT also owns the Talk ‘N Text Tropang Texters, Meralco will be the telecommunications firm’s second team in the PBA.

The deal will also make Smart-PLDT the second company to own at least two teams in the league after San Miguel Corp., which actually has three.

San Miguel also owns B-Meg Derby Ace and the crowd-darling Barangay Ginebra.

Jaworski, along with Alberto “Big Boy” Reynoso, Francis Arnaiz and the late Larry Mumar shone for the Meralco Reddy Kilowatts in the late 1960s up to the early ’70s, when the Manila Industrial Commercial Athletic Association (MICAA) was the top amateur league in the land.

When the team disbanded in 1971 in the wake of the lifetime ban on Jaworski and Reynoso for attacking two referees, most of the players were reunited in the Komatsu team that later formed the PBA in 1975 along with other former MICAA squads.

Jaworski and Reynoso later rejoined the Komatsu team, that became the Toyota Comets in the PBA, when their ban was lifted.

The cost of maintaining a PBA ballclub, despite the scaled-down salaries of players, including imports, is about P40 million to P50 million a year.

Most teams treat this expenditure as advertising expense, that is why teams endorsing everyday consumer commodities find the PBA its best marketing avenue.

The Pilipinas Shell franchise was the last team to leave the PBA in 2006, with Welcoat Paints, coming from the amateur Philippine Basketball League, buying the ballclub and several holdovers of the team, for about P50 million.

A disbanding ballclub, depending on the lineup that it has, can haggle for a fee estimated at more than what Welcoat shelled out. A team buying into the PBA ballclub gets to keep the players who have live contracts with the disbanding squad.

[Trail Blazer]

“Natuloy ba?” Ginebra coach Jong Uichico said when asked for his comment on the trade. “Then, instant champion sila.”


jong uichico with his "padehado" (underdog) statements again, he's so good at this...but before you know it, ginebra wins another championship...

[durden_tyler]

At least MVP will now eventually realize that stacking up talents is not the solution for an instant, consistent championship.

SMB learned it the hard way as they have disappointed in some campaigns IN SPITE of a LOADED line-up.

Take it from an SMB fan.

[noilsen]

jong uichico with his "padehado" (underdog) statements again, he's so good at this...but before you know it, ginebra wins another championship...

This is what you get when there are only few teams in a league... over-congestion of talent... :D:D

[the_BuGs]

Meralco joining PBA next year, says source

By Musong R. Castillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines—The Manila Electric Company (Meralco), Robert Jaworski’s old team in the now-defunct MICAA, will be making shock waves in the Philippine Basketball Association next year.

The Philippine Daily Inquirer learned Thursday that the power distribution company has all but sealed a deal to buy a financially strapped PBA franchise and its entire roster and return to basketball in the league’s 36th season.

Details of the deal are being kept under wraps and the Inquirer source had asked that the team not be identified pending the formal signing.

The worldwide economic crunch and the high cost of maintaining a team in the PBA were the reasons cited for the fold-up of the franchise after a long and storied league participation, leaving the door open for Meralco, a moneyed firm where Smart-PLDT has a major stake.

Because Smart-PLDT also owns the Talk ‘N Text Tropang Texters, Meralco will be the telecommunications firm’s second team in the PBA.

The deal will also make Smart-PLDT the second company to own at least two teams in the league after San Miguel Corp., which actually has three.

San Miguel also owns B-Meg Derby Ace and the crowd-darling Barangay Ginebra.

Jaworski, along with Alberto “Big Boy” Reynoso, Francis Arnaiz and the late Larry Mumar shone for the Meralco Reddy Kilowatts in the late 1960s up to the early ’70s, when the Manila Industrial Commercial Athletic Association (MICAA) was the top amateur league in the land.

When the team disbanded in 1971 in the wake of the lifetime ban on Jaworski and Reynoso for attacking two referees, most of the players were reunited in the Komatsu team that later formed the PBA in 1975 along with other former MICAA squads.

Jaworski and Reynoso later rejoined the Komatsu team, that became the Toyota Comets in the PBA, when their ban was lifted.

The cost of maintaining a PBA ballclub, despite the scaled-down salaries of players, including imports, is about P40 million to P50 million a year.

Most teams treat this expenditure as advertising expense, that is why teams endorsing everyday consumer commodities find the PBA its best marketing avenue.

The Pilipinas Shell franchise was the last team to leave the PBA in 2006, with Welcoat Paints, coming from the amateur Philippine Basketball League, buying the ballclub and several holdovers of the team, for about P50 million.

A disbanding ballclub, depending on the lineup that it has, can haggle for a fee estimated at more than what Welcoat shelled out. A team buying into the PBA ballclub gets to keep the players who have live contracts with the disbanding squad.

then hire Coach Robert Jaworski as Head Coach... so at least it will be loved by the fans instead of hating it :D

[c_d]

Meralco joining PBA next year, says source

By Musong R. Castillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines—The Manila Electric Company (Meralco),
OT: Meralco stands for Manila Electric Railroad and Light Company

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hac0Jx4d5lY/Rt6i9MUfBUI/AAAAAAAAAOg/EAhxoeu3w5w/s400/IMG_1188.JPG

[capitantiago]

OT: Meralco stands for Manila Electric Railroad and Light Company

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hac0Jx4d5lY/Rt6i9MUfBUI/AAAAAAAAAOg/EAhxoeu3w5w/s400/IMG_1188.JPG

Used to be. No longer now.

[Trail Blazer]

At least MVP will now eventually realize that stacking up talents is not the solution for an instant, consistent championship.

SMB learned it the hard way as they have disappointed in some campaigns IN SPITE of a LOADED line-up.

Take it from an SMB fan.

and as evidenced by last conference's champions, defense still wins championships...

[reamily]

ever since the old times there are weak teams and there are strong teams but still the one who can say they are the strongest is if they win a championship:D

[Philippines4ever]

so Meralco will buy a franchise or will the start from scratcH(if the do where will they get their players?)?

[reamily]

so Meralco will buy a franchise or will the start from scratcH(if the do where will they get their players?)?

did you see sbc guys ogie menor, escobal and Aljamal playing with stalu to give you a clue:D:D

[neo]

then hire Coach Robert Jaworski as Head Coach... so at least it will be loved by the fans instead of hating it :D

"They couldn't deny the fact that Meralco management had sent a letter offering former Ginebra mentor Robert Jaworski a competitive compensation packages, someone had tip a scale and make some smoke on this said negotiations this month."

Unanswered telephone calls on both parties as of now are left unanswered or will former Ginebra coach Robert "The Big J" Jaworski accept the lucrative offer and letting his instinct lead the way against his former team.

Source said that the highest confidential offer sheet ever recorded in the professional league had been offered for a particular reason, returning ball club will certainly ring the bells in other coaches minds, its a head turner for other professional gurus.

"If this negotiation materialized before the next conference pave way, he will handle one of the most financially stabled corporation in the professional league here in the Philippines."- Insider