Kosta Koufos thread - Page 2 - InterBasket - International Basketball & Euroleague Forum

obe31 · 08-05-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by THRYLOS

Koufos led Greece to silver in the U18-Championships when he was 18. Ath this age, Bouroussis started playing basketball...

Really? I didnt know that..R u serious? I can not remember when i first heard of him..

T.W.Is.M. · 08-05-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by obe31

Really? I didnt know that..R u serious? I can not remember when i first heard of him..

I do. It was the 2003 A1 finals when he was still playing 4 AEK. He was 20 back then and he came from nowhere and had a couple of good games against Panathinaikos. I remember it because I knew his cousin from university and the next day we were asking him about this new player we saw on TV, whether they were relatives, if he knew him well etc.
So yes, maybe he started playing bball seriously at 18.

KWSN-Men · 08-06-2009, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by T.W.Is.M.

I do. It was the 2003 A1 finals when he was still playing 4 AEK. He was 20 back then and he came from nowhere and had a couple of good games against Panathinaikos. I remember it because I knew his cousin from university and the next day we were asking him about this new player we saw on TV, whether they were relatives, if he knew him well etc.
So yes, maybe he started playing bball seriously at 18.

I think he was a swimmer before that, right?

Nice Koufos thread.

obe31 · 08-06-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSN-Men

I think he was a swimmer before that, right?

Nice Koufos thread.

So Koufos (aka Bouroussis) was a swimmer before hey? hahahaha!

Ok Ok. We havent heard anything from Koufos the past few days...

T.W.Is.M. · 08-06-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSN-Men

I think he was a swimmer before that, right?

Nice Koufos thread.

Just like Vasilopoulos was a goalkeeper?
And what about Koufos? Has he always been a bball player? Boring...

Chigusa · 09-07-2009, 01:11 PM

Clips of Kosta Koufos in four preparation games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfUerTuFIBQ

fasoulaki · 10-02-2009, 07:51 AM

There are rumors in the greek press that Koufos (or rather his mother??) is disstatisfied with the amount of playing time Kosta got during the european championship.

His mother was cited, that if she had known before that Kosta would sit on the bench all the time, they would have stayed in the States to have more time for the preparation of the next NBA season.

I dont think that a NBA rookie should complain about his role in one of the best national teams worldwide.

krikit · 10-02-2009, 12:27 PM

Why is Koufos mother complaining about playing time? She was cited as complaining when he was in Ohio State too about playing issues and stuff. She's become his agent or something?

softice · 10-02-2009, 04:06 PM

He got enough playing time to saw us that he cant play defence at this level.
He has some good moves at offence..and he can be a good scorer if the team have a good assistman like Calathes but thats all.
I like him only against Roumania and Latvia at friendlies.
Offence 8/10
Defence 2/10
The big dissapoitment of this eurobasket imo

Chigusa · 10-02-2009, 07:18 PM

Utah played their first preseason game last night. Saturday they will fly en route to London to start a pre-season Europe tour. The reports about Koufos were not good though.

Quote:

--Kosta Koufos really struggled in going 1-for-8 overall and 1-for-7 in the fourth quarter. Most notable was Koufos difficulty in timing rebound attempts and other plays around the basket.

It was such a rough game for Koufos that Utah Flash (NBA D-League) owner Brandt Andersen, who was seated courtside, sent the following Tweet in the fourth quarter: "Please welcome Kosta back. He is having a tough night."

One preseason game and Koufos is already ticketed for the D-League? It's worth noting that the Jazz only have 12 healthy players under contract right now, which means they're going to need Koufos in uniform for the sake of numbers alone.

http://blogs.sltrib.com/jazz/2009/10...nuggets-87.htm

And yes, Koufos did not leave Ohio State on good terms.

Red Inspiration · 10-02-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by softice

He has some good moves at offence..

has or...had?

i think the added bulk on him destroyed his game and especially his shooting mechanic.
Once a great finesse bigman prospect, with inside-outside game, now he can barely shoot the ball properly with those truck driver upper arms.

those arms look like they belong to someone else

Remon · 10-03-2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Inspiration

has or...had?

i think the added bulk on him destroyed his game and especially his shooting mechanic.
Once a great finesse bigman prospect, with inside-outside game, now he can barely shoot the ball properly with those truck driver upper arms.

those arms look like they belong to someone else

Not only that, when you spend so much time in the gym bulking up you spend less time learning the game, especialy with his huge problem in offense, which is certainly not only a strength issue.

Remon · 10-03-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chigusa

It was such a rough game for Koufos that Utah Flash (NBA D-League) owner Brandt Andersen, who was seated courtside, sent the following Tweet in the fourth quarter: "Please welcome Kosta back. He is having a tough night."

Seriously, do people there use their minds at all? Will this in any way help a young player get better? Surely this is one of the examples that Stern's new rules about tweeting and crap is good.

Manosss · 10-03-2009, 10:31 AM

It was a huge mistake by Costas(or his mother's whatever

) that he rejected the option to play in Greece first..He would be twice the player he is now..

Guys he is only 20.. He is just not ready..
And he will never be if he continues in the NBA...
NBA is not a school.. You have to be completed to play there..

Only if he had come he would have improved much more..

Ax Costa Costa..

Chigusa · 10-03-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Manosss

It was a huge mistake by Costas(or his mother's whatever

) that he rejected the option to play in Greece first..He would be twice the player he is now..

Eh, that is easy to say in retrospect. He probably should have either went to Greece in the first place, or stayed in college. He was getting good teaching at Ohio State. However, Kosta did not want to put in hard work in the form of defense and rebounds, he only wanted to play offense..didn't like to pass either. Everyone saw the flaws in his game, that is why he dropped big time on draft night.

Guys he is only 20.. He is just not ready..
And he will never be if he continues in the NBA...
NBA is not a school.. You have to be completed to play there..

Only if he had come he would have improved much more.

Ax Costa Costa..

I don't think this is about the NBA or Greece. This is about Kosta Koufos. He is a talented young player, and his dream has always been the NBA..but with that comes a ego. When things are not going right his camp (mother, high school coach)whines. When he's not getting playing time at OSU, his mother says they could have went to Greece, when he's not getting playing time at Eurobasket, his mother says they could have been in the states. I guarantee everything would not have gone his way had he went to Greece at age 18/19..so what would his excuse had been then?

I agree the NBA is not a school, however I cannot think of many coaches in the world who I would take over hall of fame coach Jerry Sloan to teach the game of basketball. Kosta is in a great spot in Utah to learn the game of basketball, and he has improved big time from this time last year, he just needs to put in the work though. He just had a bad game, but I think we have seen that he still has some mental hurdles to clear before he
can truly be effective at the professional level (Europe & NBA)

No matter what his mother says, it was a good experience for Kosta to play with the Senior Greek NT. He now knows a little bit about basketball in Europe. Hopefully he can come back stronger next year should the NT decide to retain him, he can be a very good asset.

FIBA Europe Basket · 01-26-2010, 01:24 AM

The Jazz once again for the second straight year sent Kosta Koufos down to the NBA D-League to finish the season. Based on the way Koufos has played so far in the NBA (D-League material) and how he played at the EuroBasket 2009 (poorly)...................

it is starting to look like he might turn into a bust. I hope not, but I don't like how his career is starting to trend.

Pistol Pete · 01-26-2010, 06:45 AM

I don't think it's that bad. There simply is no room for him in the Jazz right now. There is a rotation of Memo-Boozer-Millsap and it's too early for Koufos to step in. I think there is chance to see him play in the future, it's better if he plays in the NBDL for the rest of the season because it's not good for him to stay on the bench all the time.

Trifilli · 01-26-2010, 07:46 AM

He already played his first game for the Flash, logging 16/7, not that this would mean anything...

http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/box...eId=2020900169

Imo Koufos made a major mistake by bulking up that fast. He was more of a finesse kind of player before, with a sweet touch and decent speed. This summer he showed up in Greece with a completely different body, tons of muscles, but somehow lost his touch and ballhandling due to that. Whenever I saw him play ever since he was pretty TO-prone, also not shooting the ball well. Now he's a good dunker and can somehow finish around the rim with contact, but that's about it...

Of course the fact that he was absent this summer from Utah most likely didn't help him much either for his cause.

But if you ask me, Koufos should concentrate on his true skills again. Muscles and a strong body are important in the game for a C... but getting them overnight is not the way to go. Koufos needs to find feeling for the Ball again now. He's not the defensive big man the Jazz want, and I doubt that he ever will be. But he can still be valuable to them with his other skills...

koursaros7 · 01-30-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trifilli

Imo Koufos made a major mistake by bulking up that fast. He was more of a finesse kind of player before, with a sweet touch and decent speed. This summer he showed up in Greece with a completely different body, tons of muscles, but somehow lost his touch and ballhandling due to that. Whenever I saw him play ever since he was pretty TO-prone, also not shooting the ball well. Now he's a good dunker and can somehow finish around the rim with contact, but that's about it...

+10000000000000000

he is a shadow of what he was.. nowadays he resembles more of glyniadakis than a great finesse player

FIBABall2k10 · 04-03-2010, 09:07 PM

he's definitely gotten much bigger and he's going to be a force this summer and for an NBA team soon. He's got the skills, but the meat is what he needed

09-07-2009, 01:11 PM	#26
Chigusa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 181 Country:	Clips of Kosta Koufos in four preparation games. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfUerTuFIBQ Last edited by Chigusa; 09-07-2009 at 08:20 PM..

10-02-2009, 07:51 AM	#27
fasoulaki Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cologne Posts: 823 Country:	There are rumors in the greek press that Koufos (or rather his mother??) is disstatisfied with the amount of playing time Kosta got during the european championship. His mother was cited, that if she had known before that Kosta would sit on the bench all the time, they would have stayed in the States to have more time for the preparation of the next NBA season. I dont think that a NBA rookie should complain about his role in one of the best national teams worldwide. __________________ Ποιοι ήταν τελικά οι κυριότεροι λόγοι που οδήγησαν την ομάδα στο χάλκινο μετάλλιο; Kazlauskas: "...γιατί παίξαμε καλή άμυνα. Η άμυνα και το πάθος ήταν πάντα το σήμα κατατεθέν της εθνικής ομάδας..."

10-02-2009, 04:06 PM	#29
softice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 262 Country:	He got enough playing time to saw us that he cant play defence at this level. He has some good moves at offence..and he can be a good scorer if the team have a good assistman like Calathes but thats all. I like him only against Roumania and Latvia at friendlies. Offence 8/10 Defence 2/10 The big dissapoitment of this eurobasket imo __________________ http://leodius46.mybrute.com the only real RPG

10-03-2009, 10:31 AM	#34
Manosss Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 52 Country:	It was a huge mistake by Costas(or his mother's whatever) that he rejected the option to play in Greece first..He would be twice the player he is now.. Guys he is only 20.. He is just not ready.. And he will never be if he continues in the NBA... NBA is not a school.. You have to be completed to play there.. Only if he had come he would have improved much more.. Ax Costa Costa.. __________________ Eu basketball tradition? Serbia & Hellas

01-26-2010, 01:24 AM	#36
FIBA Europe Basket Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 756 Country:	Jazz Sent Kosta Koufos To NBA D-League Again The Jazz once again for the second straight year sent Kosta Koufos down to the NBA D-League to finish the season. Based on the way Koufos has played so far in the NBA (D-League material) and how he played at the EuroBasket 2009 (poorly)................... it is starting to look like he might turn into a bust. I hope not, but I don't like how his career is starting to trend. Last edited by FIBA Europe Basket; 01-26-2010 at 01:31 AM..

10-02-2009, 12:27 PM	#28
krikit Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 112 Country:	Why is Koufos mother complaining about playing time? She was cited as complaining when he was in Ohio State too about playing issues and stuff. She's become his agent or something?

01-26-2010, 06:45 AM	#37
Pistol Pete Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 253 Country:	I don't think it's that bad. There simply is no room for him in the Jazz right now. There is a rotation of Memo-Boozer-Millsap and it's too early for Koufos to step in. I think there is chance to see him play in the future, it's better if he plays in the NBDL for the rest of the season because it's not good for him to stay on the bench all the time.

01-26-2010, 07:46 AM	#38
Trifilli Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Frankfurt/Germany Posts: 3,554 Country:	He already played his first game for the Flash, logging 16/7, not that this would mean anything... http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/box...eId=2020900169 Imo Koufos made a major mistake by bulking up that fast. He was more of a finesse kind of player before, with a sweet touch and decent speed. This summer he showed up in Greece with a completely different body, tons of muscles, but somehow lost his touch and ballhandling due to that. Whenever I saw him play ever since he was pretty TO-prone, also not shooting the ball well. Now he's a good dunker and can somehow finish around the rim with contact, but that's about it... Of course the fact that he was absent this summer from Utah most likely didn't help him much either for his cause. But if you ask me, Koufos should concentrate on his true skills again. Muscles and a strong body are important in the game for a C... but getting them overnight is not the way to go. Koufos needs to find feeling for the Ball again now. He's not the defensive big man the Jazz want, and I doubt that he ever will be. But he can still be valuable to them with his other skills...

04-03-2010, 09:07 PM	#40
FIBABall2k10 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 17 Country:	he's definitely gotten much bigger and he's going to be a force this summer and for an NBA team soon. He's got the skills, but the meat is what he needed

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