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    Default Group E, Day 1: Philippines vs. Chinese-Taipei

    Taiwanese beat the Philippines in the Jones Cup.

    Payback time!

    FIBA Asia, Monday @ 4PM.

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    The Philippines will beat Chinese Taipei big time. Yeah they almost beat Iran but that Iran team was not the Iran team who won 2007. With the kind of defense the Philippines is playing, CT will not be able to do what it did in Jones Cup. In fact i see a 20-30 point blowout for RP. First time I make a prediction in the IBN forum.CT will be limited to 40-50 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARISTOTLE View Post
    The Philippines will beat Chinese Taipei big time. Yeah they almost beat Iran but that Iran team was not the Iran team who won 2007. With the kind of defense the Philippines is playing, CT will not be able to do what it did in Jones Cup. In fact i see a 20-30 point blowout for RP. First time I make a prediction in the IBN forum.CT will be limited to 40-50 points.
    lol...Hope you don't eat your words after the game..In my opinion you and Taipei are on the same level..20-30 blowout?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlacKOEIsle View Post
    lol...Hope you don't eat your words after the game..In my opinion you and Taipei are on the same level..20-30 blowout?....
    I wont.

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    Records and Scores:

    Chinese-Taipei (2-1)
    Iran def. Chinese Taipei, 71 - 67
    Chinese Taipei def. Kuwait, 73 – 51
    Chinese Taipei def. Uzebekistan, 102-78

    Philippines (2-1)
    Philippines def. Sri Lanka, 115 - 31
    Philippines def. Japan, 78-69
    Korea def. Philippines, 69-56

    Both teams will carry over a record of 1-1 going into the extended elims stage. Taiwan started off with a loss against Iran but a statement and morale-boosting defeat nonetheless after indulging the Iranians to a close affair. With confidence, the Taiwanese followed it up with two blowout wins over Kuwait and Uzbekistan. For the Philippines, they handled Sri Lanka, expectedly in their first outing. RP then defeated Japan before losing big to South Korea in their final game.

    With Iran and Korea as the favorites in Group E, the Philippines and Chinese-Taipei are expected to slug it out for the 3rd and 4th spots in the said group. Unless of course one of Korea or Iran gets upset in this round; that, or if Japan or Kuwait manage some big wins to get out of the 0-2 hole.

    Taipei is looking to prove, especially after the Iran loss that they belong to the second-tier of teams that will competitive for a long time. The Philippines meanwhile are still seething from previous tournaments disappointing finishes and are looking to finally get a decent finish in this year's edition.
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    I haven't seen Taiwan play in Tianjin, all I know is they have their starting big men already unlike their recent Jones Cup line-up wherein their big men were not present. It would be a competetive game, I hope RP has the upper hand, I wish Japeth is available for the game. We really need a shot blocker inside the paint.
    It's ironic to see limited efforts from players with maximum salary.
    I wish they would apply "sabermetrics" in those financially challenged PBA teams to acquire players who are value for their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post

    Both teams will carry over a record of 1-1 going into the extended elims stage.
    Why 1-1 , is it not 2-1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saints13 View Post
    I haven't seen Taiwan play in Tianjin, all I know is they have their starting big men already unlike their recent Jones Cup line-up wherein their big men were not present. It would be a competetive game, I hope RP has the upper hand, I wish Japeth is available for the game. We really need a shot blocker inside the paint.
    i doubt japeth will suit up on monday. coach guiao is definitely protecting the interest of his pba team (i dont even know what it's called to be honest coz i dont watch pba). coach guiao will not risk losing a multi million peso investment to some freak injury in tianjin. so that's the rest to it folks. anyway, we can still do it without japeth. just be proud of our team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jundakki View Post
    Why 1-1 , is it not 2-1?
    This is from the official site. Although the bolded part does not say it specifically...

    Competition System

    The competition will be played in four rounds.

    The sixteen (16) participating teams will be divided into four (4) groups of four (4) teams each. Each team will play all the other teams in its own group. The teams placed 1st – 3rd in each group will qualify for the Eighth Finals Round.

    The twelve (12) teams qualified from the Preliminary Round will be divided into two (2) groups of six (6) teams each. Each team will play the three (3) new teams in its own group (the final scores of all games played in the Preliminary Round are valid for this round). The teams placed 1st - 4th in each group will qualify for the Quarter-Finals for 1st - 8th place.
    But it does in Wiki:

    The top three teams from Groups A and B qualify to Qualifying round Group E; the top three teams from Groups C and D qualify to Qualifying round Group F. Results between teams that previously played each other are carried over
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    Quote Originally Posted by talion.. View Post
    i doubt japeth will suit up on monday. coach guiao is definitely protecting the interest of his pba team (i dont even know what it's called to be honest coz i dont watch pba). coach guiao will not risk losing a multi million peso investment to some freak injury in tianjin. so that's the rest to it folks. anyway, we can still do it without japeth. just be proud of our team.
    It's called Burger King Whoppers.

    Probably protecting his own interests but he could be protecting Japeth's career don't you think?

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    Yes, basically you only get the results of the teams that advanced with you to the next group.
    So the Philippines win vs. Sri Lanka is nothing now. They only get the win vs. Japan and the loss vs. Korea
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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    It's called Burger King Whoppers.

    Probably protecting his own interests but he could be protecting Japeth's career don't you think?
    i have a hunch it's BK but i'm not really sure. i'm confusing it with ROS. all i know is that he used to coach for red bull which btw contains cocaine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talion.. View Post
    i doubt japeth will suit up on monday. coach guiao is definitely protecting the interest of his pba team (i dont even know what it's called to be honest coz i dont watch pba). coach guiao will not risk losing a multi million peso investment to some freak injury in tianjin. so that's the rest to it folks. anyway, we can still do it without japeth. just be proud of our team.
    he might and he might not. but they (the news articles and even Miko Halili) said that Japeth was out due to a "minor" injury. well if its worse than that, it could jeopardize his PBA stint, he might be the Greg Oden of PBA. drafted paid and not utilized due to injuries. anyways, both Japan and Korea games are crucial, it really bothers me and I am concerened about the reported sprained knee of Japeth, it's the common injuries of people who eventually had torn ACL.
    It's ironic to see limited efforts from players with maximum salary.
    I wish they would apply "sabermetrics" in those financially challenged PBA teams to acquire players who are value for their money.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_As...mpionship_2009

    Then why is this link saying otherwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jundakki View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_As...mpionship_2009

    Then why is this link saying otherwise?
    Read again. It says so.

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    durden_tyler

    Would you like to bet on this one too?

    For now you can wear a signature "sinobball 1, durden_tyler 0"
    aim low, score high

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    Remember pinoys. Basketballs dont hold grudges!!!

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    Guys where do you watch the games?

    Because I live in UAE and justin.tv is forcing people to pay and TeamPilipinas.info is just a link to JTV, Sorry to go off topic but I hope you guys can help, To stay on topic this is a 50-50 shot Taipei has proven dangerous in this tournament but I won't doubt the strenght of the RP team.

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    I could not still get my usual trust to this bunch of young nationals going into the quaterfinals. I saw quite a decent defense against Korea, but their freethrow, fieldgoal, three point shooting in particular, was unacceptably poor. Add-up to that were a series of turnover and lousy plays. The Koreans were partially controlled until the first part of last quarter. I think we need to improve on our three point shooting to win against the Taiwanese.

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    i doubt Aguilar is really injured cause not even a single ice, cas, strap, bandage or brace on his knees. and his in uniform and his not even skimping while walking.

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