Hell Yeah! let them teach him some lessons!
Heck no! he just wants to play for the NT..it's his right!
Ano ba yan? they are doing all of these for just one player they failed to get? Even though they will deny that this has something to do with the Aguilar brouhaha, the timing isn't just right and the Gilas team is already on the right track. If they are really sincere enough, why don't they just lend some players which the SBP will have control full time?Originally Posted by nardy
http://insidesports.ph/basketball/salud-condemns-pba-plan-to-form-national-team/
SALUD CONDEMNS PBA PLAN TO FORM NATIONAL TEAM
Posted on 03 September 2009
Former PBA Commissioner Rudy Salud who is regarded alongside the late Leo Prieto as the finest leaders of the pro league has come out strongly against the plan by some board members who are pushing for the PBA to form the national team for such international tournaments as the FIBA Championships and the Asian Games.
The proposal was made by PBA chairman Lito Alvarez with the support of Sta Lucia Realty’s Buddy Encarnado with the latest being Coca C ola’s JB Baylon who first indicated it could not be done properly aside from the costs to the PBA teams but in an apparent change of heart now apparently supports the idea.
In a text message Baylon said he had been furnished a copy of “what appears to be a part of the SBP Constitution that refers to elite tournaments including the Asian Games, Olympics etc and rests responsibility on the formation of the team on the professional league. I suppose that’s the PBA . So apparently we are mandated by the PBA itself.”
Salud noted that even before he became Commissioner he was “ very outspoken” against the idea of the PBA forming the national team and always supported the idea “to train a national pool for international competitions.”
Salud recalled that he had even “proposed to the then PBA board that they set aside the income from the All Star Games which used to be big with big income during my time and the board unofficially agreed to set aside a certain percentage as development fund precisely to be given to the national pool” that was to be set up at that time by the Basketball Association of the Philippines which was the accredited National Sports Association.
He also recalled that aside from the financial support the PBA was “willing to accommodate the RP team as a guest team in the PBA conferences to hone them up but not get the PBA players and disrupt the league and loose revenues in the process.”
Salud said history has proven that every time a PBA team played in an international tournament and lost the PBA “suffered” in terms of attendance and income while the TV franchise holder also lost revenues because of the poor attendance and television ratings.
The former Commissioner and one-time legal counsel who drafted the PBA Constitution and By Laws, served as the founding secretary general of the World Boxing Council and also drew up its Constitution and By Laws stressed “I want a national pool and I don’t want the PBA to be disrupted and I want the PBA to have a system of helping the national pool.”
Salud at the same time criticized Commissioner Sonny Barrios for allowing so-called sister teams to circumvent the ban on direct trading by using a third team as a conduit which has happened often.
Salud said “why does the Commissioner allow that circumvention through a third party. If it smells bad, it is bad.”
The eminent lawyer pointed out that the Commissioner should also clamp down on trading or selling of players because “he has a bigger right to ensure that there is competitive balance in the league because that is a service to the public, instead of going after the neck of a player like Japeth Aguilar because he (Barrios) is serving the interests of a team not the general public.”
Arguing against the plan to fall back on the Commissioner’s general powers in the Aguilar case, Salud said “the general powers apply when there is no rule and the rule is generalized” even as he reminded the PBA that there are specific rules covering the case of a player being drafted and not signing up with the team that drafted him.
Salud’s comments came even as Sta Lucia traded Denok Miranda to last conference champions San Miguel Beer claiming it was because of salary cap problems effectively indicating that San Miguel Beer’s star-studded team which only recently also acquired Arwind Santos from Burger King who received the maximum salary, apparently had no salary cap problems which was met with disbelief by some board members.
At least Atty. Salud is being honest with the revenues and the FIBA participation results thing.
It will be like the movie Saving Private Ryan where the US Invading Forces in Europe assembled a squad of Army Rangers Special Forces to pull out another comrade (Airborne Trooper whose brothers are all killed in the war), with the members of the squad questioning the sense of the mission of saving 1 guy while risking the lives of the whole squad.
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Yan, coming directly from the horse's mouth.Salud said “lets support that one (development pool) of (Rajko) Toroman. If they play FIBA rules all the way, they will not be tainted by the habits and ways of PBA players and we have a better chance there.”
http://insidesports.ph/basketball/sa...2%80%99s-team/
On the banning of players .... I remember BJ Manalo was drafted in the 2005 PBA Rookie Draft by Purefoods as #13 overall. He was offered a contract that was lower than what he previosly earned in his PBL team so he rejected it. Despite a "colorful" High School and College career, Manalo was not able to play in the PBA, so does anyone here know if it was a PBA ban or was it a personal choice? During the time of the contract negotiations BJ even played for Purefoods in it's Pre-season games. From what I heard, Benedict Manalo Jr. is now a Christian Pastor.
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BJ Manalo played for Ateneo Juniors then with the Green Archers. I remember him embracing his best friend Enrico Villanueva when he finally got a championship for Ateneo during his final year.
Yes, Manalo sat out and was never signed because of salary issues but thats about it. There as never a ban which I know of publicly but I guess he was so disillusioned and then found a higher calling and became a Christian Pastor.
I guess it wasn't such a big deal for the PBA since Manalo is not a high profile player like Aguilar.
If Burger King was such a bad team, then why did Japwet say "yes" to them in the first place?
Unlike Japwet with regards to BK, BK never deceived Japwet that they were going to pick him. Japwet always knew which team will pick him in the draft. And yet when Alvarez asked him if he wants to play for BK, he never said "no", or "maybe", he said "yes".
And now we are seeing all these stories about BK being this, BK being that. Then why did Japwet say yes to them?
And if the PBA is such a bad league, why are people so concerned if Japwet is banned there for life? He and his father had always bragged about playing in Europe, or the NBDL.
If so, let him play there, if he can. I thought some NBDL teams were interested in him? So why all the fuss, then?
We'll, I'm sick of people trying to do damage control for the PBA. All they have to do is apply their draft rules on Japeth as the former PBa commissioner Rudy Salud had mentioned and their wouldn't even be an issue to talk about. It was burger king and the current PBA commisioner who had opened this up to the media. With all the condescension and threats they made in the papers they deserve to be villified!
And by the way you're pretty stupid not expect Japeth fans here in the Japeth Aguilar Saga thread!
For the record, I'm not even a big Japeth Fan but I recognize him as a crucial part of our national team that represents our country including you. I wouldn't even bother to post about this if it was a non issue for our national team.
Get your facts straight!
B]We'll, I'm sick of people trying to do damage control for the PBA. All they have to do is apply their draft rules on Japeth as the former PBa commissioner Rudy Salud had mentioned and their wouldn't even be an issue to talk about. It was burger king and the current PBA commisioner who had opened this up to the media. With all the condescension and threats they made in the papers they deserve to be villified!
And by the way you're pretty stupid not expect Japeth fans here in the Japeth Aguilar Saga thread!
For the record, I'm not even a big Japeth Fan but I recognize him as a crucial part of our national team that represents our country including you. I wouldn't even bother to post about this if it was a non issue for our national team.
Get your facts straight!
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another recycled response except for except for the excessive use of JAPWET lol - ala BurJer King. If the PBa wants to ban him why haven't they already? papatulong pa sa SBP kuno - transl. even bringing the SBP to the picture tsk tsk tsk
You know what guys? I going to create a gif video of Japeth's best highlight for all of them haters as well as "nuthuggers" to see. This is going to be a fun thread now on.
'Saan ka nakakakita, na kinakampihan pa yung nanggoyo, kesa sa nagoyo? Kinukunsinti pa yung nanloko.'
(Translation: Where can you find, that the deceiver is excused, while the victim is villified? Turning back on your word is now being encouraged).
I dare him to try to play in Europe, or in the NBDL. That benchwarmer couldn't even make a decent season in Ateneo or WKU, so how much more in "Europe" or "NBDL" they keep bragging about?
rhk111,
Whatever happened to the basic legal tenet of the accused being presumed to be innocent until proven guilty? Have you ever stopped to consider the possibility that the decision to go to the draft was made under pressure from Guiao?
I understand where Lito Alvarez is coming from. However, I also understand where Aguilar and his handlers are coming from. Isn't that what objectivity is all about?
Call me a nuthugger, I don't care. I'm just fed up with all your name-calling online. I dare you to go to Chicago and spew your vitriol all over the Aguilar family. You can't even answer a reasonable question in Gameface and at the BEN.
Believe!
Emman Monfort says you may kiss his PBA draftee's ass
Where can you find businessmen being so unprofessional, and going to the media to make a big fuss about it. They should know, of all people, that it is not official by having only a verbal agreement. They also make threats in public, like banning him? Its blackmail for crying out loud.
Where can you find people who wants to serve their self interest first before their country? Hmmm I wonder where.
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Yeng Guiao: Neither the 3 year program or coach Rajko was the factor for the success of Smart-Gilas.
Tab Baldwin: He’s [Rajko] the big reason, maybe the biggest reason they got as far as they did.
You're not a nuthugger? Why so bitter, then? LOL
Under pressure from Guiao? Was he under pressure when he said "yes" to Alvarez?
Whatever happened to keeping your word, then? Robinson and Rubio (who are not benchwarmers in the US NCAA Div. 1), never said "yes" to their drafting teams. Those teams always knew the risks in drafting those players.
Probably what amounts to a "reasonable answer" to you, is if ends up hugging Japwet's nuts.
As if "professionalism" involves turning back on your word, and leaving people hanging out to dry. LOL
What about turning your back on your signed contracts with your agents, that's "professionalism"? Wow.
I'm all for objectivity. Looking at both sides of the story. Re-read the second paragraph. Also, I suggest that you read Tommy Manotoc's article on the matter. If that doesn't make you think, I don't know what will.
If that's "nuthugging" for you, I can't say any more. You're incorrigible.
Again: The accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. DO NOT FORGET THAT.
Believe!
Emman Monfort says you may kiss his PBA draftee's ass
Wow. Look at that. You're looking at "professionalism" from only the PBA-BK side of things.
Also, have you really verified that story about his "former agents"? As in went here, seen signed contracts, etc?
Way to go for objectivity!
Believe!
Emman Monfort says you may kiss his PBA draftee's ass
Moral of the story: If you're going to fleece somebody, better make sure you have a good excuse in doing so, like "I love my country so very, very much that it hurts and I want to play for it" bullsh.., so people will think you're a hero.
Oh, c'mon. Who fleeced whom? Was there indeed any fleecing involved? Show your proof.
You know, I've made it clear in my previous posts on this thread that what Aguilar did per se was wrong and if there are any penalties for this, they should be imposed on him.
But with new information coming to light, I am constantly weighing everything that I read. If in the end he gets banned from the PBA for life due to existing laws and regulations, I will have no qualms with that. End of story.
But to call everyone who gives an opinion contrary to yours a "nuthugger"? That's another story. Makes one wonder if you had any personal stake in this matter in the first place.
Believe!
Emman Monfort says you may kiss his PBA draftee's ass
Hi Tolits! This is for you.
These are the moves equivalent to a million kilos of burger patties.
Uh-huh. And just because I don't like overhyped benchwarmers who haven't proved anything and acting like primadonnas, I have a personal stake on this already?
Maybe you have a personal stake with Japwet, that's why you can't stand people offering a contrary opinion about his being overhyped and a headcase.
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