Hell Yeah! let them teach him some lessons!
Heck no! he just wants to play for the NT..it's his right!
if PBA bans then SBP has to ban too even for just 6 months or a year even if they had nothing to do with japeth's decision. why ? to show unity of SBP stakeholders. It unpalatable for me to suggest this but sometimes we have to to do unpalatable things for the bigger picture to come out ok(SBP unity and no more FIBA investigation again) and besides, the reason , PBA/BK is delaying their announcement is that they are the one who wants japeth so they are using media leaks to pressure aguilar. For all we know, the PBA will end up giving japeth only a minor sanction specially because now the cojuangco teams now have moistened eyes anticipating japeth as well hehehe. desperate people use desparate means. Booo !
they talk about integrity now? Did the PBA allowed the lap-sided trades here, there and everywhere where a team can get a SUPERSTAR for a future draft pick and a LOT OF CASH CONSIDERATIONS... they Talk about integrity when all the fans knew that some of the teams exceed that salary cap... BKW will not keep Japeth because they can't afford him they will only play him maybe 1 or 2 seasons so they will only pay him 150,000 and 240,000 but when japeth reaches the max salary they will sell him to another team like what they did to arwind.Originally Posted by rhk111
It's a business move.they talk about integrity now? Did the PBA allowed the lap-sided trades here, there and everywhere where a team can get a SUPERSTAR for a future draft pick and a LOT OF CASH CONSIDERATIONS... they Talk about integrity when all the fans knew that some of the teams exceed that salary cap... BKW will not keep Japeth because they can't afford him they will only play him maybe 1 or 2 seasons so they will only pay him 150,000 and 240,000 but when japeth reaches the max salary they will sell him to another team like what they did to arwind.
And please show me the exact rules of the PBA Salary Cap rules and i will show you where you are mistaken. That is of course assuming you know your PBA Salary Cap rules.
IF THERE IS NO BASKETBALL IN HEAVEN, I AM NOT GOING.
I still firmly believe that there's nothing wrong with Japeth's decision of not signing the contract.
There was an instance in recent past where a PBA team drafted a player, and yet, the player refused to sign the contract simply because he was to get less than what his PBL team was offering. Of course, this is slightly different from Japeth's case where he was offered a max contract. But that's beside the point. What I'm harping on here is the right to "reject" a contract offer, regardless of how much the offer was.
Again, I stand firm. THe only reason this is such a big issue is because it's an athletic 6'9" #1 draft pick. If it were a 2nd rounder, will this even become such a big issue?
The f*cking PBA sucks! And Lito Alvarez's actions are just plain wrong. He's not exercising his rights. BUt simply, exercising his BAD Filipino traits - Crab Mentality. If you can't get things to go your way, pull down everyone else, even the SBP. Isn't that why they're dragging the SBP into this again?
Bastards! Please, someone give me the e-mail address of the Sonny Barrios and Lito Alavarez, and I'm sure as hell sending an e-mail to both of them!
Last edited by dunk_on_me; 09-02-2009 at 12:11 AM.
no doubt, that alvarez is trying to drag the SBP into the mess. the best move for SBP right now is wait and see attitude and wait what will be PBA board's decision. if Alvarez keeps pressuring SBP in the media to make a statement, SBP can shoot back and say, hey, make a decision first then , we will make a decision. Since Cojuangco was quoted in the news a few months ago as being interested in japeth, chances are that Cojuangco's teams will vote against a ban on japeth(just my guess) leaving BK a big loser. Even if Cojuangco's teams vote for a ban, BK still ends up not only as a loser but as seeking punishment(can't blame them). If there is a ban, SBP will probably have to announce some sort of punishment as well on japeth(lesser punishment than the PBA will announce) even though the SBP heads may hate it if only to show "unity" blah blah blah with PBA( politics here).
I see no problem with japeth playing for Smart-Gilas... If the PBA wants to ban him then so be it... Its there choice... We don't want him to play in the PBA right because his talent will just be wasted... He'll be better playing in Europe or NBDL... Then what's the issue of him being ban in the PBA... PBA please Ban Japeth...
LIFE GOES ON FOR WHOPPERS, COKE & BARAKO BULL RETOOL
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 17:53 — junior
Though still hoping for the resolution of the Japeth Aguilar controversy soon, Burger King coach Yeng Guiao said he's not ready to wait forever as the Whoppers have to move on with or without the wayward player.
Guiao said they have to fix things specially as the team has traded Ken Bono to Coca-Cola.
"Okay pa naman kami. We have Carlo Sharma, Beau Belga and JR Quinahan as frontliners. But we have to look for a replacement kung talagang hindi na babalik si Japeth," said Guiao.
"In four days kung walang mangyayari, dapat kaming kumuha nang iba to fill up the slot. The season is about to start," Guiao added.
Coca-Cola has beefed up its own frontcourt in acquiring Bono through a three-way trade deal involving Barako Bull.
The Energy Boosters gave up a future draft pick for Bono whom they later dealt to the Tigers for point guard Aries Dimaunahan and forward MC Caceres.
In a continuing rebuilding process, Barako Bull also acquired Yousif Aljamal and Rob Reyes from Talk n Text.
BK top honcho Lito Alvarez plans to talk directly to Japeth's father Peter even as the player agent, Ronnie Nathanielsz, insists the Aguilars have made a decision for Japeth to dump Burger King for Smart Gilas.
Nathanielsz has reportedly said that Peter closed their door on BK after a phone talk with Guiao.
"I just explained everything and the possible consequences of their action to Peter. He told me 'sige kakausapin ko sila (I will talk to them).' My understanding is that he will explain things to Japeth and his manager," said Guiao.
"I believe I still have an open communication line with them (the Chicago-based parents of Japeth). But I have explained everything and I think it's enough. Baka makulitan sa akin," Guiao added.
Guiao said he had a phone talk with Peter the day after Japeth and Nathanielsz informed the BK people of their decision not to sign up with the team that made the player the top pick in the most recent PBA Annual Draft.
Japeth has reportedly left for the US. Before leaving, he had a lunch with a small group of sportswriters reiterating his decision to join the Smart Gilas developmental team. (NC)
LIFE GOES ON...
hahaha , you got it right, yes, PBA , please ban japeth
Being drafted does not mean you are commited to sign and play for the team. You still have the option to sign the contract or not. Ones you signed, then you are automatically bound to play for that team.
Same goes for the team owners. They would not automatically offer a contract to the player they just drafted.
Its the same banana. And the PBA is making a big fuss about it when they were being the latter all this time.
There are alot of good players who were drafted but was never offered any contract.
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Yeng Guiao: Neither the 3 year program or coach Rajko was the factor for the success of Smart-Gilas.
Tab Baldwin: He’s [Rajko] the big reason, maybe the biggest reason they got as far as they did.
Aguilar to receive P18m from Gilas
by Rey Joble
FOR country or money?
9/2/2009
This is the P18.6-million question surrounding Japeth Aguilar’s decision to turn his back from the Philippine Basketball Association and bring his act to the Smart-Gilas national team.
A highly-placed source told Standard Today that the 6’9” former Western Kentucky University player was offered the whopping three-year contract by the team backed by Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas and bankrolled by Smart Communications.
The same source said Aguilar is set to get P350,000 in his first year, P500,000 in his second year and P700,000 in his final year with Smart-Gilas, more than double the P8.7 million Burger King, the PBA team which drafted the 22-year-old cager, offered him.
The Whopper’s offer, which was the maximum salary allowed for a rookie, was rejected by Aguilar’s camp.
Aguilar applied for the PBA Draft and issued his intent to enter the pro league during the Powerade-Team Pilipinas’ campaign in the Fiba Asia Men’s Basketball Championships in Tianjin.
Aguilar’s decision to turn his back from the PBA was a big puzzle even to league commissioner Sonny Barrios.
Barrios said that Aguilar’s camp may be right in saying that they don’t have a commitment in the PBA as well as Burger King as they didn’t sign a contract. But the official said that there are things to be considered more than just the rules and regulations of the pro league.
“I don’t think the issue should simply just focus on the rules and regulations or whether Aguilar has a commitment with the PBA or Burger King. It’s how you do things with a sense of propriety,” said Barrios during yesterday’s Philippine Sportswriters Association Forum.
“It’s about being fair—to the PBA and the team which picked him up. The thing is, the case is more sensitive because he is the top overall rookie pick and that a team is building its future around him,” he added.
Barrios also disclosed that the PBA gave Aguilar the needed assistance to fulfill his dream of turning pro and treated him like a rock star.
“We are talking here of a six-figure allowance that was even bigger than the contracts of many players in the PBA,” said Barrios. “He was given perks that other members of the Powerade-Team Pilipinas did not enjoy.”
PWE DE NA!!!
Yes, its all about the money..Both ways..
Japeth just chose the lesser evil.
this is my version:from recent news articles, I gather that Japeth's camp was aware of the PBA by-laws, hence, the repercussions should they not sign with BK: sit-out the first year, re-negotiate in the 2nd year and if nothing comes of it sit-out again, and on third year he could re-join the draft if he wants to.
Those are the scenarios they were expecting, in three years time Japeth could be in the PBA. Unfortunately for them, they didnt anticipate human emotions coming into the picture (such as napahiya, naturotot, naiputan, nagulpe-de-gulat, naisahan, natarantado, na...wala na akong maisip
this is what I think happened:
Japeth was really intent on signing with BK. But what made him change his mind then? He wouldnt turn his back away from a P8.7M offer just like that. There must be something or someone that made him throw "palabra de Honor" out of the window then? I dont buy that he will be getting the same amount from SBP, I dont buy that at all. Can someone please check if Ronnie or Peter or Japeth is wearing a shiny new Rolex
If becoming a National was really his one and only goal, why join the draft then? It was reported entering the draft was a pre-condition if he was to join the PBA-led NT. I say that's alot of bull. Wasnt it also reported that he was seen as "teary-eyed" when he got drafted #1? Why would one with no intention of playing pro ball show emotions like that?...unless of course that was his "ano ba etong napasok ko (i'm in deep sh1t)" tears
Some are making this to be as a "nationalistic" vs "greedy" issue. We all know that's not the issue. It's an issue of principle (or lack thereof) vs trying to regain self-respect. Which is Japeth and which is the PBA?
On a positive note, yessss! Japeth in our NT!
japeth really wanted to play both for the NT and the PBA. However, he felt slighted being benched in some of the more crucial games in tianjin. he may also have resented the shouts of dispproval from coach yeng ("tigasan mo pick mo!"). thus, while he originally wanted to play for BK, he felt he couldn't play under yeng anymore. and while he knew he's gonna be foregoing a tidy sum of money and that he may be stirring up a hornet's nest, he still decided to cut and cut clean because he cannot anymore ride the bench and play for a coach who doesn't believe in him. he left wku already. he doesn't want to repeat that agonizing stint in the bench here in manila.
i'm pretty confident that this is very near to what really happened. you will see that i'm not a big fan of conspiracy theories. and unlike some forumers who are quick to crucify japeth for such things as unprofessionalism and other forumers who think there has been shady deals behind the scenes that involved influence and money (rolexes?), i think that most if not all the people involved are honest, principled men with the best of intentions. i don't think MVP will risk his reputation (by doing under-the-table deals) just to get one player. i believe noli has been very careful and up-front in his dealings, given his legal background. i believe the aguilars just want the best for japeth, even setting aside financial considerations. ronnie may just be abrasive in his ways, but i think he's just looking out for japeth the best way he knows how to. and lito alvarez may sound vengeful, desperate, and a bully, but he's been hurt and maybe feels he was made to look like a fool.
guys, i admire japeth for what he did. it was risky, complicated, unexpected, even unheard of. and unlike insinuations from some people, i really believe he's letting go of a stable income because of principle, and solely because of principle (that he can't work for someone who doesn't believe in him). i don't buy his press release that he's doing this solely for flag and country. that is just what it is, a press release. but to me, he showed guts to fight yeng, fight BK, and fight the whole PBA.
to me that shows he's got BALLS. let's just hope he can also show us that he also got GAME.
DEAD LIZARD
Big Fat paycheck in the works
Aguilar to receive P18m from Gilas
by Rey Joble
FOR country or money?
9/2/2009
This is the P18.6-million question surrounding Japeth Aguilar’s decision to turn his back from the Philippine Basketball Association and bring his act to the Smart-Gilas national team.
A highly-placed source told Standard Today that the 6’9” former Western Kentucky University player was offered the whopping three-year contract by the team backed by Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas and bankrolled by Smart Communications.
The same source said Aguilar is set to get P350,000 in his first year, P500,000 in his second year and P700,000 in his final year with Smart-Gilas, more than double the P8.7 million Burger King, the PBA team which drafted the 22-year-old cager, offered him.
The Whopper’s offer, which was the maximum salary allowed for a rookie, was rejected by Aguilar’s camp.
Aguilar applied for the PBA Draft and issued his intent to enter the pro league during the Powerade-Team Pilipinas’ campaign in the Fiba Asia Men’s Basketball Championships in Tianjin.
Aguilar’s decision to turn his back from the PBA was a big puzzle even to league commissioner Sonny Barrios.
Barrios said that Aguilar’s camp may be right in saying that they don’t have a commitment in the PBA as well as Burger King as they didn’t sign a contract. But the official said that there are things to be considered more than just the rules and regulations of the pro league.
“I don’t think the issue should simply just focus on the rules and regulations or whether Aguilar has a commitment with the PBA or Burger King. It’s how you do things with a sense of propriety,” said Barrios during yesterday’s Philippine Sportswriters Association Forum.
“It’s about being fair—to the PBA and the team which picked him up. The thing is, the case is more sensitive because he is the top overall rookie pick and that a team is building its future around him,” he added.
Barrios also disclosed that the PBA gave Aguilar the needed assistance to fulfill his dream of turning pro and treated him like a rock star.
“We are talking here of a six-figure allowance that was even bigger than the contracts of many players in the PBA,” said Barrios. “He was given perks that other members of the Powerade-Team Pilipinas did not enjoy.”
"Failing to Prepare is Preparing to Fail"
These teams also know that they can't sign Japeth if he doesn't want to. That is why they are hesitant now.Big Fat paycheck in the works
To make everybody happy, trade Japeth to TNT. Then the Tropang Texters can release him to Gilas.
Give Alvarez something in return and for sure he'll repeat his earlier statements that the SBP has the right program.
So now its becoming clear. I dont think the Aguilars dont know what they are doing, Japeth's dad Peter Aguilar, is a former player himself aside from their manager. They are now choosing the better alternative financially-wise. Sa tagalog, e nagpataas-presyo. This is only me thinking and i dont know if that is bad or good.
ooops.... if this is true, i may have to eat humble pie.
Aguilar to receive P18m from Gilas
by Rey Joble
FOR country or money?
9/2/2009
This is the P18.6-million question surrounding Japeth Aguilar’s decision to turn his back from the Philippine Basketball Association and bring his act to the Smart-Gilas national team.
A highly-placed source told Standard Today that the 6’9” former Western Kentucky University player was offered the whopping three-year contract by the team backed by Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas and bankrolled by Smart Communications.
The same source said Aguilar is set to get P350,000 in his first year, P500,000 in his second year and P700,000 in his final year with Smart-Gilas, more than double the P8.7 million Burger King, the PBA team which drafted the 22-year-old cager, offered him.
The Whopper’s offer, which was the maximum salary allowed for a rookie, was rejected by Aguilar’s camp.
Aguilar applied for the PBA Draft and issued his intent to enter the pro league during the Powerade-Team Pilipinas’ campaign in the Fiba Asia Men’s Basketball Championships in Tianjin.
Aguilar’s decision to turn his back from the PBA was a big puzzle even to league commissioner Sonny Barrios.
Barrios said that Aguilar’s camp may be right in saying that they don’t have a commitment in the PBA as well as Burger King as they didn’t sign a contract. But the official said that there are things to be considered more than just the rules and regulations of the pro league.
“I don’t think the issue should simply just focus on the rules and regulations or whether Aguilar has a commitment with the PBA or Burger King. It’s how you do things with a sense of propriety,” said Barrios during yesterday’s Philippine Sportswriters Association Forum.
“It’s about being fair—to the PBA and the team which picked him up. The thing is, the case is more sensitive because he is the top overall rookie pick and that a team is building its future around him,” he added.
Barrios also disclosed that the PBA gave Aguilar the needed assistance to fulfill his dream of turning pro and treated him like a rock star.
“We are talking here of a six-figure allowance that was even bigger than the contracts of many players in the PBA,” said Barrios. “He was given perks that other members of the Powerade-Team Pilipinas did not enjoy.”
DEAD LIZARD
As of now .... expect a lot media releases related to this particular issue. everybody is now seeing the business side of things in basketball. As I said before .... not everything is as pleasant as things are presented. some may argue it is just a simple mistake resulting in drastic consequenses ..... a way to just get a better deal .... a choice between money or patriotism. A institution reacting to a challenge ..... a person just exercising his rights ..... I do forsee that this particular scandal would not end so fast and would drag on for sometime. Once the final verdict happens .... I am going to be sure it would still not satisfy everybody and we would still have some people questioning it.
wherever is the final destination of Japeth ..... Japeth would now be on everybody's eyes after all this, as to everybody is he worth all this trouble that he created.
I just hope the current controversy would not be a way in which the BAP would again take advantage at bring to the attention of FIBA that not everything is fine in the handling of Philippine Basketball.
LABAN KUNG LABAN! KAYA NATIN PILIPINAS!
Mabuhay ang TEAM PILIPINAS !!!!
NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!
THE DREAM LIVES ON !!!!
Japeth being paid P350k per month, and then P500k per month is WRONG, in my opinion. I think MVP is making a big, big mistake here.
Think about this: You have an unproven player, who never played WELL anywhere, suddenly being paid much better than the best PBA players? I think MVP is stepping on a landmine here, and somebody push him back before he does.
You can make all kinds of excuses as to why Japeth didn't play well in Ateneo and WKU, but in the end, they are just excuses. And you begin to wonder why you have to keep making excuses about his game.
Another reason is that it will give undue pressure on the kid to produce the numbers by his second year.
And I can't even tell you how big a pressure it will be, if it turns out that he CAN'T produce the numbers, even if being paid P500k a month. If you think people hate Kenneth Duremdes averaging 3 ppg while earning P500k a month, wait until Japeth doesn't turn out to Smart Gilas' main local big man, while earning that amount of money.
And wait until another player ends up being Smart Gilas' main big man, and not earning as much as Japeth.
It will be a disaster for MVP.
Don't bite into the hype, MVP. Let him show what he's got first, before offering that amount of money. Not before.
MVP, toroman, BK, guiao are ALL making a mistake of wanting this player???
hahaha... so you're the only one who is right? maybe, you know better...
Is this true, nardy? If not, better nip it in the bud right away.
Aguilar to receive P18m from Gilas
by Rey Joble
FOR country or money?
9/2/2009
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The same source said Aguilar is set to get P350,000 in his first year, P500,000 in his second year and P700,000 in his final year with Smart-Gilas, more than double the P8.7 million Burger King, the PBA team which drafted the 22-year-old cager, offered him.
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If it is true, then I think its a big mistake for MVP for reasons I already stated.
Worst, it will reinforce the belief 'na sinulot ng SBP si' Japeth from the PBA. That will be bad publicity for MVP, Eala and the SBP.
Another is that it would mean that Japeth really just doesn't want to play for the country, but he wants the money. He is just using playing for the country as an excuse that only gullible people will buy.
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