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    Quote Originally Posted by Picek View Post
    well it is not like Perić would give us anything new..
    he played bad in the preps..
    we all know how bad shooter he is, his defense wasn't at his best either..
    with Bogdanović as lock for SF position we also have Tomas and even Planinić if Vranković decides to play with three guards..

    if joke knew how to use peric we would get extra tactical option with him because he is oposite type of sf then bogdanovic. peric played bad because he played off the ball whille he needs ball to be efective. when our main creators ukic, tomas, tomic are off he could give us creation and it would be harder for other teams to deal with us and now we lost extra option.

    if i ever had doubts than joke might become good coach, now i'm sure he won't. as untalented sf he was, he simpley doesn't know how to use some taleted sf with sense for the game. even shooter type of sf bogdanovic is not used to maximum. he only knows to use him how his coaches used him back when he was player. standing around, making screans and shoting whille unlike joke bouth bogdanovic and peric have talent for more

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    How's about Stipčevič? Does he have some role in team? I haven't seen him playing against Lithuania in tournament in Bamberg. Last year he seemed very interesting player.

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    his role will depend on ukic and planinic recovrey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picek View Post
    well it is not like Perić would give us anything new..
    he played bad in the preps..
    we all know how bad shooter he is, his defense wasn't at his best either..
    with Bogdanović as lock for SF position we also have Tomas and even Planinić if Vranković decides to play with three guards..
    Perić wasn't good in pripreme but like pohani says he offers versatility and contrast to Bojan. I don't know if Bogdanović is lock for SF position now that we have so many guards in the roster. What if Joke is thinking of using Tomas now as SF and Popović and Kus as permanent SG with some sort of combination of Ukić, Planinić and Tomas rotating through there for some small minutes? Anything is possible with Joke and he showed he has no real imagination in coaching. I'm sure a good coach would take Perić and leave the injured players home.

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    Tomas will have to play 30-35min. per game, combined as SG/SF. Bogdanovic is maybe a talent, but for me he is way overrated at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SparrowHawk View Post
    Tomas will have to play 30-35min. per game, combined as SG/SF. Bogdanovic is maybe a talent, but for me he is way overrated at this point.
    Bogdanović played better than Tomas in preps, he's a great defender so he needs to play at least 25+ minutes per game... The ideal thing is him and Tomas playing together on 2-3 spots... Cause, Bojan is better than Kus by any means, better defensively and taller than Popović, better than injured Planinić...

    Btw, people may have said same thing for some serbian youngsters last summer, and you saw how that ended Bogdanović is great player, you'll see...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pohani komarac View Post
    peric played bad because he played off the ball whille he needs ball to be efective. when our main creators ukic, tomas, tomic are off he could give us creation and it would be harder for other teams to deal with us and now we lost extra option.
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    you don't need the ball in defence..
    he sucked there as well as in offense..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SparrowHawk View Post
    Tomas will have to play 30-35min. per game, combined as SG/SF. Bogdanovic is maybe a talent, but for me he is way overrated at this point.
    they need to play together for at least 20min. and rest of time always must be one of them on court. they fit great to eachother, whille our coaches must stop experiment 2-3 pg on court at same time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picek View Post
    you don't need the ball in defence..
    he sucked there as well as in offense..
    To be fair other players sucked during different stages of preparations as well. For example if someone saw just Tomić's game against Russia they would say he is overrated.

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    I hope there isn't too much expectation on Bogdanović for this tournament. He can produce but if he doesn't people should lay off him and not become too critical. He's only 21 and this tourney is his first step into international basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picek View Post
    you don't need the ball in defence..
    he sucked there as well as in offense..
    but he needs ball to bring something "new" to us like repesa and you like to say. he is most crative player we have at the moment besides youngsters prostran and saric, and coach who understands basketball would new how to use him as "extra" tacticall option as point forward. but joke just knows to use sf a+in way he played. all of our plays were made by kukoc in short period when he was there, no single change from italy game. + rest of guys not named tomas, zoric and loncar sucked in defense to whille neither of those guys were superb at defense.

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    OK, we forget quickly the USA game.

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