Israel Winner Cup 2009

[ArnoldPettybone]

actually the team mossinzon went to has a pretty big potential to make it to the first division in 2 years..

Pure bluff. Like all the other teams that made it from Liga Bet to the the national league in recent years only to free fall after failing to qualify to the BSL/raise the minimum budget needed to participate.
Without a wealthy owner or a strong municipal backing it wont work. Even with Hapoel Usishkin TA.

[MaccabiTA]

Pure bluff. Like all the other teams that made it from Liga Bet to the the national league in recent years only to free fall after failing to qualify to the BSL/raise the minimum budget needed to participate.
Without a wealthy owner or a strong municipal backing it wont work. Even with Hapoel Usishkin TA.

i'm not really an excited fan of the third division you know..
i read that they're really good and kick ass over there and all that..

[ArnoldPettybone]

Sorry, it really seems you have no clue on what your are talking about. There is two times level difference between the level of the national league vs. BSL and the third vs. second division. Hapoel Usishkin can defeat a top national league team as of now. A top national league will not even get a close game situation with Maccabi, Jerusalem, Haifa etc.
Usishkin just hammered Galil by 34 pts away on opening day, btw.
Anybody want to volunteer and open up an undefeated season thread? I think I'l pass.

[MaccabiTA]

Sorry, it really seems you have no clue on what your are talking about. There is two times level difference between the level of the national league vs. BSL and the third vs. second division. Hapoel Usishkin can defeat a top national league team as of now. A top national league will not even get a close game situation with Maccabi, Jerusalem, Haifa etc.
Usishkin just hammered Galil by 34 pts away on opening day, btw.
Anybody want to volunteer and open up an undefeated season thread? I think I'l pass.

i think osishkin has a very good chance of being in the first division in 2 years, which is true, and when the time comes i believe that they'll have one of the biggest budgets in the first division with all hapoel TA fans support them so wait before you jump to conclusions. because ofcourse that now they can't give a fight to the top teams of the Israeli basketball but when (they probably will) make it to the first division they'll be alot stronger.

[ArnoldPettybone]

Once again, your Belief has nothing to do with the real world. The team's member toll for this season, just barely 700, and all other income sources also just barely covers this year's budget. The club's member count hasn't drastically changed in the last three years-in the first year it was around 500.
No Israeli team has enough devoted "plain" and not rich fans to support a team all by their own in the BSL. Not even Maccabi.

[MaccabiTA]

Once again, your Belief has nothing to do with the real world. The team's member toll for this season, just barely 700, and all other income sources also just barely covers this year's budget. The club's member count hasn't drastically changed in the last three years-in the first year it was around 500.
No Israeli team has enough devoted "plain" and not rich fans to support a team all by their own in the BSL. Not even Maccabi.

well you're wrong, osishkin can definatly make it to the first division in two years, they are now the best team in the third division by far and with their current roster they can be in the top 6 in the second division, and when making it to the second division more money comes and with some better players they will make it to the first division.

[Czarkazem13]

Huh...sorry for asking.