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  • Andrew Bogut (Australia)

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  • David Andersen (Australia)

    9 64.29%
  • Kirk Penney (New Zealand)

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    Default Oceania's Player of the Decade

    Who is Oceania's Player of the Decade? For many basketball fans in the Oceania region, many would say that Australia's Andrew Bogut get the nod however, if one deeply analyses all the players that should be nominated a fair few would say that David Andersen should be voted as Oceania's Player of the Decade.

    David throughout this decade in Europe as well as having a solid campaigns with the Australian Team. In Europe, Won 2 Italian Cups (2001, 2002),
    Won 3 Euroleague Championships (2001, 2006, 2008)
    Won 2 Italian Championships (2001, 2004)
    Won 2 Triple Crowns (2001, 2006)
    Italian League Finals MVP (2004)
    Won 3 Russian Cups (2005, 2006, 2007)
    All-Euroleague First Team (2005)
    Won 4 Russian Championships (2005, 2006, 2007, 2008)
    Won 1 Spanish Championship (2009) (Credit goes to Wikipedia)
    In addition, he was the more consistent performer compared to Bogut in terms of performance in the national team.

    The Big Fella out in Milwaukee definitely has performed excellently throughout the decade, NCAA Player of the Year, at only 19 years of age, was the starting centre for the "Boomers" in the 2004 Athens Olympics, former NBA no. 1 Draft Pick, so far 5 solid years in the NBA.

    From New Zealand, we cannot take away the Tall Blacks' and former NBA player Kirk Penny, however, when one compares this Kiwi to the achievements of the other Aussies it's clear that one of the two Aussies would take out this award.
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    David Anderson all the way! Just compare his trophies with Boguts and Penneys.

    Single Euroleague trophy is better than N solid years in NBA.

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    Andersen has accomplished the most in this decade, proving how valuable of a player he is.
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    A probable sterotype-answer in this thread; David Andersen

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    Bogut of course.Had he played in Euroleague he would seem like an hybrid of prime Shaq and Hakeem.

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    Default How would Bogut do in Euroleague competition?

    I could imagine Bogut doing quite well if he had played in Europe. The reason being is that his style of play would suit many major European ball clubs. He's got a soft touch around the basket, he is capable of shooting to the three point range (proven by his NT performance), he has a "team-first" mentality and is able to play both back-to-the-basket as well as fronting up to the rim. He wouldn't put up 25ppg & 15rpg stats in Europe but more like 15ppg 8rpg 3apg but his team would be successful. But of course, he's not playing there thus we could only speculate on "what if".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    Bogut of course.Had he played in Euroleague he would seem like an hybrid of prime Shaq and Hakeem.
    Perhaps, albeit your argument is based on pure and abstact speculation - presumably never to become measured. Andersen has more valuable trophies hanging on his shelf.
    Provide Andersen with 30+mpg in the NBA in his 30s and he should have a more than fair chance to reach Bogut average statistical parameters.

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    Bogut captained the Australian U19's to a world championship which is a pretty big deal as well. The "Emus"

    I also believe (need to check this up) that he was the MVP of the tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by each way View Post
    Bogut captained the Australian U19's to a world championship which is a pretty big deal as well. The "Emus"

    I also believe (need to check this up) that he was the MVP of the tournament.
    That's right, "The Bogey Man" was the tournament's MVP.
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    Those are three fantastic players right there. I'm a big Kirk Penney fan, because he was a real magician in college. He was a Big 10 All American, if I remember correctly. Unfortunately, he has bounced around too much in his professional career and he just can't get traction with a big team.

    Andrew Bogut is a pretty good choice. He's such a powerful center. He's a legitimate NBA starter.

    But David Anderson has had the best career so far. How many Euroleague Championships did he win? That alone says he's the best Oceanic player for me. He's had some fantastic games for the Rockets this year, and he'd be even better if he could stay in the rotation.
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    For me is David Andersen!
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    Default Kirk penny

    Hasnt really had his time to shine on the stage yet. He should be in the NBA right now full stop

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    Bogut despite suffering a freak injury that held him way back,is a top 5 Nba center right now.On the other hand Andersen is being traded left and right waves towels and plays garbage time minutes(had a dissapointing Worlds championship as well).The results of this poll are an insult to basketball and common sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    Bogut despite suffering a freak injury that held him way back,is a top 5 Nba center right now.On the other hand Andersen is being traded left and right waves towels and plays garbage time minutes(had a dissapointing Worlds championship as well).The results of this poll are an insult to basketball and common sense
    This was a poll based on what the player had achieved from 2000 to 2009.
    From the 2008-09 NBA Bogut wasn't All NBA 3rd Team material rather he was considered a "BUST". Sure enough he was playing in the NBA however, he wasn't playing to this full potential. Fair enough the Aussie-Croat was named NCAA Player of the Year during his final year in Utah but after that he wasn't up there neither in his appearances for the national team.

    In contrast, Andersen was FAR MORE consistent compared to Bogut. Fair enough he was not playing the best league in the world however, you can't dis-credit winning multiple championships and awards in Euroleague, Italy, Spain and Russia. In addition, by far he was a more consistent performer for the Australian national team. That's why the Aussie-Dane was a far better choice than the Aussie-Croat from 2000 to 2009.
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    i don't know how you conclude that Andersen was more consistent in nt performance.In fact stats show that Bogut outplayed him by quite a margin in the two tournaments they were both on the Boomers squad(Athens,Bejing)..

    Anyway forget stats titles or meaningless prizes,in the end of the day shouldn't actual basketball skills matter?What does oceania player of the decade mean?I'd guess the best basketball player from Oceania not just the one with most titles.Now is there anyone who can tell me with a straight eye that Andersen is a better basketball player than Bogut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu-Tang View Post
    A probable sterotype-answer in this thread; David Andersen


    David Anderson all the way! Just compare his trophies with Boguts and Penneys.

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