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    Gay rights groups condemn Blatter comment

    By STEVE DOUGLAS, AP Sports Writer

    LONDON (AP)—A leading international gay rights group demanded an official apology from FIFA on Tuesday following Sepp Blatter’s comment about homosexual fans traveling to Qatar for the 2022 World Cup.

    The president of the world soccer governing body said Monday that gay fans “should refrain from any sexual activities” during the World Cup in Qatar, where homosexual behavior is illegal.

    Juris Lavrikovs, communications director for the European branch of the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association, said the comments were “very unfortunate and have left people deeply offended.”

    “I think they should come out with a strong statement and not just wash it away,” Lavrikovs told The Associated Press. “We are talking about a very basic human right that is being violated.”

    Blatter spoke in South Africa on Monday at the launch of a post-2010 World Cup legacy project. He was asked if he could foresee any cultural problems with the tournament being held in Qatar.

    “I’d say they (gay fans) should refrain from any sexual activities,” he said, smiling.

    “This is not a joke, this is a matter of life and death to people,” Lavrikovs said. “Qatar and more than 70 other countries in the world still criminalize individuals for homosexual relationships, and some countries even punish them by death sentence.

    “It’s disappointing to see that an organization that is promoting the game, which in its statutes condemns discrimination of any kind, is coming out with comments like this.”

    Qatar beat the United States, Australia, Japan and South Korea in the FIFA vote on Dec. 2 to host the 2022 World Cup.

    Concerns have been raised that a country hosting a major tournament has stringent laws that are seen by many to violate basic human rights.

    “Sepp Blatter jokes about the risk to gay visitors in 2022, but Qatar’s anti-gay policies are no laughing matter,” British human rights campaigner Peter Tatchell said.

    John Amaechi also condemned Blatter’s remarks. The former NBA player from Britain who revealed he was gay in 2007 said on his website that “FIFA has endorsed the marginalization of LGBT people around the world.”

    Amaechi also demanded an apology from FIFA and urged other associations to distance themselves from Blatter’s comments.

    “Anything less than a full reversal of his position is unacceptable,” he said.

    Herman Ouseley, chairman of Kick It Out, a British campaign group for equality and inclusion in soccer, said he expected better from someone in Blatter’s position.

    “It was all frivolity and laughter but it’s a serious business—people’s existence he has ridiculed,” Ouseley told the AP at the launch of his group’s annual review at the British Parliament.

    “We can’t have that from the top of the world governing body—you’ve got to show leadership because you’ve got to influence the standards of behavior required and then you’ve got to enforce it when there’s a failure.”

    AP Sports Writer Rob Harris contributed to this report.
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    So gays should not have sex while in Qatar. Furthermore AIDS tests are obligatory before you apply. No rainbow flags or gay insignia allowed during games.

    On a similar note:

    Fans should refrain from consuming alcohol in public during games. It is forbidden and punishable by long term in prison.

    Or women should not wear scanty clothing when they come to games. It is considered indecent and punishable by prison term and then expulsion. All fans, men and women, watch out if you wear some offending T-Shirt slogans. You will be held accountable for all the blasphemies you are wearing as an insult

    Fans with Israeli passports are not allowed to attend games.

    You cannot wear crosses or other idolatory marks from other religions. Catholic football players should not make the sign of the cross when entering the field. Their coaches should warn them about this and ban any player who dares disobey and is shown on live TV doing this. If you have offending tattoos, spend some money and erase them before coming to the Games.

    Mixing is not allowed. Women in one special tribunes separate from men. This is for non-Qatari women.

    For Qatari women, the entire half of Qatar's population, they should stay home throughout the Games so as not to be held to ridicule by rowdy foreigner thugs and hulligans for wearing hijabs and burqas. Any utterances against Muslim women is punishable by jail.

    Shall I go on and on and on???

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    Qatar shouldn't have even applied to host. That's what all this campaign comes down to. It is ways to get revenge on Qatar for being an Arab country that won something. Oh no, let's screw it up for them and perhaps even get a reversal of FIFA decision on holding the games there in the first place....

    Expect more slander of this sort against Qatar with higher and higher pitch as we arrive on 2022.

    BTW, why should Platter talk about this in 2010!!!! Isn't it too early to talk about gays having sex 12 years down the road? If they love football anyway. And if they are even slightly considering going to Qatar of all places 12 years from now.
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    I assume Blatt was being tongue-in-cheek. Obviously, a public figure like him should not try to make jokes about these sensitive issues.
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    Gay pride march banned in Serbia

    BELGRADE, Serbia (AP) — Serbian authorities have banned a gay pride march and an anti-gay protest planned in the nation's capital this weekend to avoid violence.

    When two similar events occurred side by side in Serbia's capital last year, about 100 people were injured, cars were burned and shops were looted in clashes between police and the anti-gay, far-right extremists.

    So the gay pride march and the anti-gay protest planned in Belgrade on Sunday have been banned "to avoid bloodshed," Interior Minister Ivica Dacic said Friday.

    Anti-gay prejudice is widespread in Serbia, a predominantly conservative Balkan country. The head of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Irinej, has called gay pride marches a "parade of shame" that are "foreign to our history, tradition and culture."

    But Serbia has been urged by the West to protect the human rights of gays and other minorities, if it wants to one day join the European Union.

    On Friday, Serbia's President Boris Tadic backed the ban of Sunday's events, saying it was imposed to "prevent violence and the possible loss of lives."

    Gay pride organizers said the ban represents a defeat for the state and shows that authorities have not cracked down on the far-right extremists since the clashes a year ago.

    "It is totally unbelievable that police have not clamped down against the extremists," said Goran Miletic of the organizing committee. "We have spent four months preparing the gay pride march, and the authorities have done nothing."

    But the ultranationalist Obraz, or Honor, group said that the ban presented a "victory for the Serb patriots."

    Police said anti-gay extremists had planned to set buildings on fire in the suburbs of Belgrade on Sunday and to clash with police in the center of the capital.

    Foreign diplomats had planned to attend the gay pride march in a show of support for human rights in Serbia.

    Minister Dacic said the ban would prevent a possible repeat of the burning of U.S. and other Western embassies in the capital that occurred in 2008 during protests against Kosovo's declaration of independence.
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    There was a gay pride in Istanbul when I was there this summer, and there were no problems at all.
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    Gays can vote, can work or travel, they have all the social rights just like any other hetero, so why having a gay parade? It represents what?
    Serbia's in deep shit, there are much more important things than LGBT rights (whatever they be), like corruption, unemployment, bad system of justice, incredibly slow, corrupted and incompetent administration, ever growing debt and budget deficit...


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    Quote Originally Posted by SunOverHStreet View Post
    Gays can vote, can work or travel, they have all the social rights just like any other hetero, so why having a gay parade? It represents what?
    Serbia's in deep shit, there are much more important things than LGBT rights (whatever they be), like corruption, unemployment, bad system of justice, incredibly slow, corrupted and incompetent administration, ever growing debt and budget deficit...


    The Ministry of Internal Affairs' smartest move in years...
    Is it a possibility that this parade could have been used just as a cover up for another cause (maybe political, social, economical, etc.) ?

    In Lebanon once what was supposed to be a labor strike (May 7, 2008) turned out to be something completely planned as Hezbollah used it to take over the city of Beirut and eventually Lebanon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalid80 View Post
    Is it a possibility that this parade could have been used just as a cover up for another cause (maybe political, social, economical, etc.) ?

    In Lebanon once what was supposed to be a labor strike (May 7, 2008) turned out to be something completely planned as Hezbollah used it to take over the city of Beirut and eventually Lebanon
    LGBT organizations and several local NGO's (financed from the west, gay lobby is indeed strong there) are trying hard to push their agenda here. Is it used as a cover up - that I don't know, but I'm sure their intents are not moral in these hard times. It's a poke in the eye for our already tormented people.

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    I dont get it why the gays and lesbians should promote their sexuality on the streets?

    Straight people never did that I think..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WirelessBrain View Post
    I dont get it why the gays and lesbians should promote their sexuality on the streets?

    Straight people never did that I think..
    Straight people are not a minority.
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    In a free country everyone may do whatever (stupid or not) thing he wants as long as he doesn't hurt anyone else.
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    Always funny...

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    Shaq now advocates Gay and Lesbian rights.

    Shaquille O’Neal Joins Fight Against Bullying of Gays, Lesbians
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    A pic from Uganda's first Gay Rights parade.

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