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  • Players get suspended for a number of up and coming games

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Thread: Greece and Serbia face ban from WC over friendly fight

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    Default Greece and Serbia face ban from WC over friendly fight

    After watching the footage from this friendly game, the actions on a lot of the players from both teams showed no restraint and if it was any other sport they would be banned for up and coming tournaments.

    FIBA should be reviewing this footage closely and looking to ban players but their gutless bureaucrats will most likely turn a blind eye. Yes, I am glad its not my NT that was involved so easy for me to write these words especially as they are 2 of the top contending teams.

    What would these championships look like with diluted Greek and Serbian teams!!

    Anyway my point here is what should happened to these players and teams as a result of this. Please vote.

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    Well, my initial reaction is that only Krstic should be banned. But I reviewed the video only once, other people might have a different opinion.

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    I expect no suspension of any kind as it was not an official game. But some other sanctions can be exercised by FIBA, such as warnings and monetary fines. And I'd agree with that. A ban or suspension would be too heavy imho.

    ps. yeah, Krstic's reaction was nasty and really dangerous. He might be suspended.

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    I don't know.
    As a fan who wants NT to do their best,I want not a suspension or at least for only 1-2 games or the decision to come after the mundobasket.
    But also as a fan who likes watching bball and is sick and tired of the disgrace that is called A1,I want them to be punished.
    So I'm in a dillema.I hope they get suspended but after the mundobasket...

    Krstic is arrested already by greek police and the serbian minister is flying to athens to try to release him.
    "The worst part is wondering how you’ll find the strength tomorrow to go on doing what you did today and have been doing for much too long,where you’ll find the strength for all that stupid running around,those attempts to escape from crushing necessity,which always founder and serve only to convince you one more time that destiny is implacable,that every night will find you down and out,crushed by the dread of more and more sordid and insecure tomorrows.~Céline

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    I would say, FIBA should suspend the main brawl participants for several games.

    It would be too cruel for the fans, if the teams would be suspended from the championship. The supporters probably been planning the trip to Turkey for months and were expecting for that journey with huge excitement. Banning teams from the championship will certainly play a huge disappointment for them.
    From standpoint of FIBA, the organization has put a lot of efforts in promoting the games throughout the world with a wish to get a more successfull tournament, than the previous two in Japan and USA. Banning the "orthodox brothers" from the competition will play a major impact to the reputation of the games. I really doubt, that FIBA will go for such sanctions.

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    i woke up with a bitter feeling (becouse of the brawl or the double tzatziki pitogyro i ate last night)but i must agree 4 matches for main participants and two for the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseus View Post
    i woke up with a bitter feeling (becouse of the brawl or the double tzatziki pitogyro i ate last night)but i must agree 4 matches for main participants and two for the others.
    I guess that we should call on for Pappas, Papanikolaou, kaselakis, bogris and the rest of the U21 team to represent us the WC then...

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    Krstic especially should not go unpunished. Throwing a chair with a clear intention to harm was criminal. But since this is more about Greek league rivalries than ethnic ones, it's the Greek league that really should punish Teodosic, Fotsis, Keselj and Tsartsaris. If that doesn't happen, there will be a bloodbath in next season's Olympiakos-Panathinaikos games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albiongate View Post
    Kostas Tsartsaris also must to be punished for his fascist statement after the game.
    In his defense though, Tsartsaris is a giant douchebag

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    Quote Originally Posted by albiongate View Post
    Kostas Tsartsaris also must to be punished for his fascist statement after the game.
    I dunno where you got this but it's not the whole and it's not accurate.He said "the same people create the same problems all the time.Enough is enough somethign should be done" among other things.

    Which was a specific mention to Teodosic ,and Teodosic alone.
    Anyway I didn't expect anything sane to come out of his mouth with the psicololality he had at the time.
    With a serb coach who he adores,and serb teamates do you really think he could ever be racist to serbs?
    "The worst part is wondering how you’ll find the strength tomorrow to go on doing what you did today and have been doing for much too long,where you’ll find the strength for all that stupid running around,those attempts to escape from crushing necessity,which always founder and serve only to convince you one more time that destiny is implacable,that every night will find you down and out,crushed by the dread of more and more sordid and insecure tomorrows.~Céline

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    It was a shot at Teodosic and Keselj

    He meant that we PAY their lifestyles and allow them to behave in such manner in our homes. Money that we don't have excess of. Money that would better be used on home grown players that RESPECT their employer & fans!

    I can't believe any SERIOUS Olympiakos fan can defend Teodosic anymore. It was "fun" when it was with Diamantidis and Panathinaikos I guess, but now it got more than that.

    Teodosic is a disrespectful scum that does not deserve his salary by GREEK businessmen. That punch was not only on Fotsis face, it was a punch against the entire nation.

    That's how Tsartsaris sees it and that's how it should be seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvertis4 View Post
    It was a shot at Teodosic and Keselj

    He meant that we PAY their lifestyles and allow them to behave in such manner in our homes. Money that we don't have excess of. Money that would better be used on home grown players that RESPECT their employer & fans!
    really?YOU pay for teo's wage?oh my!

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvertis4;
    Teodosic is a disrespectful scum that does not deserve his salary by GREEK businessmen. That punch was not only on Fotsis face, it was a punch against the entire nation.

    That's how Tsartsaris sees it and that's how it should be seen
    oh the hillarity!!Really..I really laughed out loud after reading this.
    Are you a politician?
    "The worst part is wondering how you’ll find the strength tomorrow to go on doing what you did today and have been doing for much too long,where you’ll find the strength for all that stupid running around,those attempts to escape from crushing necessity,which always founder and serve only to convince you one more time that destiny is implacable,that every night will find you down and out,crushed by the dread of more and more sordid and insecure tomorrows.~Céline

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    yes we pay, when we buy iron or aspirins we pay for their salaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseus View Post
    yes we pay, when we buy iron or aspirins we pay for their salaries.
    you pay to the bros and the bros are free to spend them wherever and however they like,to strip clubs,gold toilet paper buying thodi's cds.Or are you going also to complain about all the million other ways they spend THEIR money too?
    With YOUR money you have most probably helped them already buy a couple Sakis Rouva's doll too(for their niece..I hope).Are you endorsing it??
    "The worst part is wondering how you’ll find the strength tomorrow to go on doing what you did today and have been doing for much too long,where you’ll find the strength for all that stupid running around,those attempts to escape from crushing necessity,which always founder and serve only to convince you one more time that destiny is implacable,that every night will find you down and out,crushed by the dread of more and more sordid and insecure tomorrows.~Céline

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    The whole thing should be blamed in Greek Athletic System
    For years now, there was a lot of violence in the arenas from the crowd and some from the players but no one was punished.
    They were too afraid to collide with Oly and Pana because if the two families leave the clubs, the Greek Basketball will be dead within 5 years

    So, over the years they didn't punish anyone, more and more verbal fighting and a tendancy to fight physically grew among the players and that was inevitable to come to this

    Just 3 months ago Teodosic punched Diamandidis in the stomach and Diamandidis spit Teodosic in return. No one was punished
    The last final game never ended due to crowd throwing objects. Twice.
    No punishement for that either

    In Greece there is the belief that if you make two mistakes, one for each side, then it all even. Also, if you really act like blind and deaf, pretending nothing happened, the people will forget it within a month
    Everyone says this must be stopped but no one does it

    Every person with a responsible job in Greece never tries to apply the law, they just try to keep even distance from the two sides. In fact, Greek officials are like Switzerland, nutural. If 10 Oly fans die, they will wish for 10 Pana fans to die so they can say 'lets call it even'

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    Lol ban from WC forum is full of Drama queens .
    UZEO SI TROFEJ MACVANE MACVANE MACVANE!!!

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    Teodosic, Fotsis, Krstic, Keselj, Schortsanitis Bjelica, Tsartsaris and the referee Christodoulou should be banned.

    Tsartsaris racist statements are a shame for the Greek athletism and people in general. I am waiting for the Greek Basketball Federation to comment on these statements.

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    I agree with most of it, but why Teodosić? I saw the video and he was trying to avoid fight... Or did I miss something?
    I changed my signature, now it says something completely different!

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWsC_XdG7NA
    This was done last year in an Italy Vs. Canada friendly match. Mancinelly was banned by FiBA for 2 games followingt his behaviour.

    Based on this, I believe that we could easily see a couple of games ban for Fotsis, Teodosic, and surely and more severely for Krstic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalashnikov View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWsC_XdG7NA
    This was done last year in an Italy Vs. Canada friendly match. Mancinelly was banned by FiBA for 2 games followingt his behaviour.

    Based on this, I believe that we could easily see a couple of games ban for Fotsis, Teodosic, and surely and more severely for Krstic
    I think Mancinelli was banned from the italian federation not from FIBA.

    also I think in Mexico vs Uruguay last year Fiba's punishment came 2 months later-after the tournament.
    "The worst part is wondering how you’ll find the strength tomorrow to go on doing what you did today and have been doing for much too long,where you’ll find the strength for all that stupid running around,those attempts to escape from crushing necessity,which always founder and serve only to convince you one more time that destiny is implacable,that every night will find you down and out,crushed by the dread of more and more sordid and insecure tomorrows.~Céline

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