Puerto Rico NT 2011-2012

[Ciscorlie Horford]

I know, thats not a excuse and all puertorricans know that...we lost in the world championship versus Ivory Coast...thanks to manolo!

chilax, I never meant to offend you I was just playing around. you know how it is with us Quisqueyanos and Boricuas. we bark at each other all the time but we never has the guts to actually bite the other. (but you all always start barking first we just keep on doing )

is you want I can delete my former post if it make you feel any better?

[PRSURF]

chilax, I never meant to offend you I was just playing around. you know how it is with us Quisqueyanos and Boricuas. we bark at each other all the time but we never has the guts to actually bite the other. (but you all always start barking first we just keep on doing )

is you want I can delete my former post if it make you feel any better?

Nah hehehe, i am relax . . .hey, what do you about Barea?, did he need to start over Arroyo?

[Ciscorlie Horford]

Nah hehehe, i am relax . . .hey, what do you about Barea?, did he need to start over Arroyo?

I like Barea as a sixth man like D-Wade in the Olympics, mainly becasue Barea tends not to pass the ball it would'nt be a problem if he was a few inches taller, becasue then youc ould side him to the 2 spot, but as a PG I think he can only take as many shots he usually do (when he is with the national team anyway, because when he is in nba he tend to calm down a little bit on that deparment) if he is having a Derrick Rose type performance. That's why I would use him a a sixth man. But talent wise, Barea is miles superior than Arroyo, I just like the fact that Arroyo is more of a passing poing guard than what Barea is that is why I would start Arroyo, even though Barea is better in eversingle category (exepct court vision, decision making and passing). But yes Barea is better than Arroyo by alot. I'm really scared that we don't have anybody who coudl guard him. the only person who could, manuel Fortuna, who basically shut Barea Down in Centro Basket when he was guardgin Barea (which was not for too long of a strech anyway) is likely not going to make the team. The Oder guy who could stpo him might no even be with the team (Sammy Mejia) because he's expecting a baby this summer. so that is another reason why I want Arroyo to start

the one bad thing about Barea do is that he is a very bad defender and he gives as many points as he scores them and he might....mn.....will have problem guarding someone like say Luis Flore or even Edgar Sosa, but Sosa is probaly a worst defender than Barea so I guess we are even there, they are going to cancel out each other then

[PRSURF]

I like Barea as a sixth man like D-Wade in the Olympics, mainly becasue Barea tends not to pass the ball it would'nt be a problem if he was a few inches taller, becasue then youc ould side him to the 2 spot, but as a PG I think he can only take as many shots he usually do (when he is with the national team anyway, because when he is in nba he tend to calm down a little bit on that deparment) if he is having a Derrick Rose type performance. That's why I would use him a a sixth man. But talent wise, Barea is miles superior than Arroyo, I just like the fact that Arroyo is more of a passing poing guard than what Barea is that is why I would start Arroyo, even though Barea is better in eversingle category (exepct court vision, decision making and passing). But yes Barea is better than Arroyo by alot. I'm really scared that we don't have anybody who coudl guard him. the only person who could, manuel Fortuna, who basically shut Barea Down in Centro Basket when he was guardgin Barea (which was not for too long of a strech anyway) is likely not going to make the team. The Oder guy who could stpo him might no even be with the team (Sammy Mejia) because he's expecting a baby this summer. so that is another reason why I want Arroyo to start

the one bad thing about Barea do is that he is a very bad defender and he gives as many points as he scores them and he might....mn.....will have problem guarding someone like say Luis Flore or even Edgar Sosa, but Sosa is probaly a worst defender than Barea so I guess we are even there, they are going to cancel out each other then

I think like you, Arroyo is a better PG in FIBA, so i start with him over Barea any day. Barea versus European teams do it successfully though.

[sinobball]

I know, thats not a excuse and all puertorricans know that...we lost in the world championship versus Ivory Coast...thanks to manolo!

Actually your team has a history doing this no? In 2004 beating Team USA by 25+ then almost lost to Angola.... in 2002 going undefeated beating Yugoslavia, Spain etc. to claim first place in group, then losing in the quarterfinals to New Zealand which barely finished 4th in the other group... Of course these weren't so bad as last year but one can see the similarities

[Ciscorlie Horford]

Actually your team has a history doing this no? In 2004 beating Team USA by 25+ then almost lost to Angola.... in 2002 going undefeated beating Yugoslavia, Spain etc. to claim first place in group, then losing in the quarterfinals to New Zealand which barely finished 4th in the other group... Of course these weren't so bad as last year but one can see the similarities

you can't be seriously putting Angola and New Zeland on the same level as Trinidad & Tobago
very bad Anecdote

[Ciscorlie Horford]

Great news for Puerto rican basketball. Udonis Haslem of the Miami Heat said erlier this week that he was hoping to play thi teh Puerto Rican National team on 2012 if they qualify for the Olimpics. but, He will not be with the team on for this year Fiba Americas championship, in Mar de Plata, Argentina.

Now, they are only missing Michael Beasley, Dahntay Jones and J. R. Smith

Delantero de los Heat confirma su mancha de plátano
lunes, 6 de junio de 2011
Raúl Álzaga / Enviado especial

Dallas. Por casi un año corrió el rumor de que Udonis Haslem tenía sangre boricua y que podría representar en algún momento al Equipo Nacional de Puerto Rico.




Ayer, con su boca de comer, Haslem confirmó sus raíces boricuas y no descartó vestir la franela boricua en un futuro.

“Mi mamá es puertorriqueña. De ahí vienen mis raíces de Puerto Rico”, dijo Haslem a Primera Hora.

“Carlos (Arroyo) me habló de jugar en Puerto Rico, pero el año pasado simplemente estaba concentrado en prepararme para esta temporada y no quería otras distracciones. Pero es algo interesante. No sé mucho del proceso para jugar con Puerto Rico, pero no lo descarto en un futuro”.

Si Haslem, en efecto, desea jugar con Puerto Rico, no será este año en el Preolímpico de las Américas en Mar del Plata, Argentina, debido a la lesión sufrida en su pie izquierdo.

Haslem aún no se ha recuperado totalmente y hasta juega con dolor durante la serie final de la NBA.

“Si fuera a jugar allá, no sería este año. Tengo que darle descanso a mi pie, dejarlo curar como se debe y poder estar listo para la próxima temporada libre de lesiones”, dijo el fornido delantero de 6’8” de estatura y 30 años de edad nacido en la ciudad de Miami.

Si en algún momento Haslem logra representar a Puerto Rico, su progenitora, Debra Haslem, no podrá presenciar el momento, pues falleció de cáncer en julio del año pasado, justo después de que su hijo firmara su pacto de cinco años y $25 millones con los Heat de Miami como agente libre.

“El año que viene, si hay oportunidad de jugar en unas Olimpiadas y estoy saludable, lo consideraría seriamente. Unas Olimpiadas no se dan todos los días. Es algo que a muchos sólo se les da una vez en la vida”, sentenció.

imagine what Puerto Rico might do with this roster:
C-Udonis Haslem
PF-Michael Beasly
SF-Dahntay jones
SG-J.R. Smith
PG-Carlo Arroyo

sixth man: J.J. Barea
bench: Renaldo Balkman

I'm already scared

[Czarkazem13]

Great news for Puerto rican basketball. Udonis Haslem of the Miami Heat said erlier this week that he was hoping to play thi teh Puerto Rican National team on 2012 if they qualify for the Olimpics. but, He will not be with the team on for this year Fiba Americas championship, in Mar de Plata, Argentina.

Now, they are only missing Michael Beasley, Dahntay Jones and J. R. Smith



imagine what Puerto Rico might do with this roster:
C-Udonis Haslem
PF-Michael Beasly
SF-Dahntay jones
SG-J.R. Smith
PG-Carlo Arroyo

sixth man: J.J. Barea
bench: Renaldo Balkman

I'm already scared

Too bad Carmelo Anthony turned down PR years ago...

[PRSURF]

Great news for Puerto rican basketball. Udonis Haslem of the Miami Heat said erlier this week that he was hoping to play thi teh Puerto Rican National team on 2012 if they qualify for the Olimpics. but, He will not be with the team on for this year Fiba Americas championship, in Mar de Plata, Argentina.

Now, they are only missing Michael Beasley, Dahntay Jones and J. R. Smith



imagine what Puerto Rico might do with this roster:
C-Udonis Haslem
PF-Michael Beasly
SF-Dahntay jones
SG-J.R. Smith
PG-Carlo Arroyo

sixth man: J.J. Barea
bench: Renaldo Balkman

I'm already scared

There are rumors that this guys you mentioned are indeed of puertorrican ancestry(Beasley, Danhtay Jones, JR Smith, Graham brothers, Kevin Martin, etc...)

[LFGC79]

It is a strong rumor that tomorrow a new head coach will be anounced, it seems to be Flor Melendez, a native. Out of local talent he is tied for best IMHO. It seems he is very interested in taking care of fostering young players and a transition between NT generations. He will be working for 4 years, and may have ESPN announcer and former NT coach Carlos Morales. Hope Rolando Horrutunier is involved.

I was eager for a foreign coach, but out of the available native talent he is truly tied for best.

Greetings to all here, I have been MIA but I am back!!

[JGX]

imagine what Puerto Rico might do with this roster:

Lose to Antigua?

Why would Arroyo start over Barea? It was clear last summer that he provides zero marginal value to their team.

[saalsapr]

Id start Barea against european teams, Lakers showed you why. He would probably kill any team that likes the halfcourt game.

Croatia
Russia
Spain
Turkey

Just to name a few. I cant imagine him starting against Argentina, Greece, USA or Brazil though. Scary things would happen.

[Xristos]

Their best roster is:

Barea - Clemente
Arroyo - Diaz - Dalmau
Vassallo - Lee
Sanchez - Balkman
Ramos - Santiago - Narvaez

[Ciscorlie Horford]

Why would Arroyo start over Barea? It was clear last summer that he provides zero marginal value to their team.

I think I explained it very well on my previews post

[saalsapr]

Their best roster is:

Barea - Clemente
Arroyo - Diaz - Dalmau
Vassallo - Lee
Sanchez - Balkman
Ramos - Santiago - Narvaez

We have to much talent to let Arroyo take over the SG position, just cant happen.

I would like to see Vassallo starting at SG, and bringing someone like Alex Galindo or a young Edwin Ubiles to fill up the spot at SF. Replace Narvaez with Santiago and Dalmau with Clemente, add Arroyo to the pg and Peavy to the PF's and it goes something like this

Barea - Arroyo - Clemente
Vassallo - Diaz(though I would much rather have Huertas or Holland for size)
Galindo - Ubiles(Lee is old)
Balkman - Peavy - Sanchez
Ramos - Narvaez

Starting lineup is designed similarly to Dallas, with size make up for Barea's lack of size. Bench has Arroyo to make up for the backcourts lack of experience, and good rebounders in Narvaez and Peavy. Clemente would replace preferably Barea should anything go wrong while Sanchez is there if three point offense is needed.

[TDW]

Their best roster is:

Barea - Clemente
Arroyo - Diaz - Dalmau
Vassallo - Lee
Sanchez - Balkman
Ramos - Santiago - Narvaez

Nathan Peavy is better than both Balkman and Sanchez.

[Waneko]

The thing folks have to understand about is a major difference in the FIBA game, from the NBA, that is the lack of the defensive 3-seconds rule. Barea has and will have a more difficult time getting to the rim in FIBA than he does in the NBA because in FIBA there is almost always a big man waiting at the rim for him.

In the NBA, defenders have to scramble more to leave their man and help out against Barea, giving him more time to get to the rim when he drives the ball.

As a result, I think Arroyo still starts at point guard. Barea can play the 2, either as a starter or off bench in 3-man rotation with Arroyo and Ayuso (ideally IMO). PR is not great defensively with any of their guards, so playing Barea and Barea together is not a great loss defensively.

Many will disagree but Arroyo is still a better offensive player in FIBA because he can shoot mid range off the dribble better than Barea. Barea is much better at getting all the way to the rim than Arroyo, but is less effective at it in FIBA because of what I explained above.

PR will still need Arroyo's offensive creativity to stay in games. I think the losses in the games he missed last summer shows his value to the team. You can't write him off yet.

The coaches have to be smart and not let Barea's success lead them to just turn the team over to him. Being the 7th man and doing all those great things Barea did is a lot less challenging than being the focal point or the man.

[saalsapr]

The thing folks have to understand about is a major difference in the FIBA game, from the NBA, that is the lack of the defensive 3-seconds rule. Barea has and will have a more difficult time getting to the rim in FIBA than he does in the NBA because in FIBA there is almost always a big man waiting at the rim for him.

In the NBA, defenders have to scramble more to leave their man and help out against Barea, giving him more time to get to the rim when he drives the ball.

As a result, I think Arroyo still starts at point guard. Barea can play the 2, either as a starter or off bench in 3-man rotation with Arroyo and Ayuso (ideally IMO). PR is not great defensively with any of their guards, so playing Barea and Barea together is not a great loss defensively.

Many will disagree but Arroyo is still a better offensive player in FIBA because he can shoot mid range off the dribble better than Barea. Barea is much better at getting all the way to the rim than Arroyo, but is less effective at it in FIBA because of what I explained above.

PR will still need Arroyo's offensive creativity to stay in games. I think the losses in the games he missed last summer shows his value to the team. You can't write him off yet.

The coaches have to be smart and not let Barea's success lead them to just turn the team over to him. Being the 7th man and doing all those great things Barea did is a lot less challenging than being the focal point or the man.

I agree with this, especially with the red. Playing two Barea's will not affect us much defensively and will greatly increase our offense.

What worries me though is that Arroyo has slowed down a bit. As good as he was for us in past tournaments, his level of play has slowed down since 2008.

[mvblair]

The thing folks have to understand about is a major difference in the FIBA game, from the NBA, that is the lack of the defensive 3-seconds rule. Barea has and will have a more difficult time getting to the rim in FIBA than he does in the NBA because in FIBA there is almost always a big man waiting at the rim for him.

In the NBA, defenders have to scramble more to leave their man and help out against Barea, giving him more time to get to the rim when he drives the ball.

As a result, I think Arroyo still starts at point guard. Barea can play the 2, either as a starter or off bench in 3-man rotation with Arroyo and Ayuso (ideally IMO). PR is not great defensively with any of their guards, so playing Barea and Barea together is not a great loss defensively.

Many will disagree but Arroyo is still a better offensive player in FIBA because he can shoot mid range off the dribble better than Barea. Barea is much better at getting all the way to the rim than Arroyo, but is less effective at it in FIBA because of what I explained above.

PR will still need Arroyo's offensive creativity to stay in games. I think the losses in the games he missed last summer shows his value to the team. You can't write him off yet.

The coaches have to be smart and not let Barea's success lead them to just turn the team over to him. Being the 7th man and doing all those great things Barea did is a lot less challenging than being the focal point or the man.

Excellent points. Before reading this, I probably would have said that Barea is way better, but you make a great point about the FIBA lane being much tougher to get to. You're absolutely right.

[alicea]

what about Shabazz Napier playing internatonal?