Fanatic APOEL Fans Attacked Karsiyaka Players and Stuff
After APOEL-Karsiyaka Eurochallenge Cup match,Cypriot fanatic fans landed on the court and attacked Karsiyaka players and stuff with knives,sticks,gas bombs and rocks.One of stuff's arm was broken.Karsiyaka players stayed at the locker room for a long time because security in the arena wasn't good enough (some websites say there were just 5 polices in the court.) There wasn't a plane to Turkey tonight and Karsiyaka had to wait until tomorrow.Finally they could reached the hotel.They wanted to go to Turkish side of Cyprus but Cypriots didn't let that happen.They are waiting in the hotel now and I hope they don't have any porblem tonight.
Last edited by melizei; 12-22-2010 at 01:59 PM.
Impossible is nothing.
Those events are as unfortunate as they are unacceptable. It is such a shame that people still feel like they can solve anything that way nowadays.
I hope everything goes well for the players of Karsiyaka and that the member of their staff will recover as quickly as possible.
It is unfortunate indeed. But I also cannot take myself from thinking the evidence was pretty much organised.
I mean look at the conditions. Even I know that greek nationalism is very strong among Apoel fans. And the game was expected to be an extremely high tensioned one. And guess what, there were only a few security man in the hall.
As the game ended and the greek fans started to come down to the court Pınar Karşıyaka players and staff rushed into the corridor to reach to the changing room. And guess what, a group with knives and sticks on hands encountered them. I think the slight injuries and the broken arm (broken arm still not confirmed) all happened at that period when the players and staff were trying to reach their room.
Anyway, after they could reach to their room it still took the cypriot gerek security a very long time to act. Actually I'm not even sure if they ever did. The ugliest development happened right afterwards. The staff did not want to stay in the gerek sector untill the next morning for the plane simply because there was high risk, and asked officials for security assistance to the UN border so they could reach to the turkish controlled north. The answer was you can go but if you want to go to the north there will be no security assistance you will be on your own.
In such conditions greek officials still had politics in their head, and that I cannot accept. Anyway what is done is done. The team is expected to arrive in İzmir airport around 12:00 cet. I will write the developments.
Well, what can I say, I surely hope this disgrace has not been orchestrated in an organized, premeditated way. For whatever my opinion is worth and judging by the inability of the police in Greece and Cyprus to avoid dramas even in games a lot easier to handle, I would say it was not. As far as the escorting issue is concerned, maybe the Cypriot officials did not feel like taking a risk they were unable to handle. As you can see I insist on giving them the benefit of the doubt as I simply refuse to believe that those events were anything but unfortunate.
In any case, my opinion certainly does not change what happened and I wish Karsiyaka the best for the remainder of the season, since they qualified as group leaders.
Something like this happened a year ago in Turkey.
The only difference is that then it happened before the game, not after.
If I recall correctly, back then ULEB punished the home team with 15k fine (for failure to provide security) and the team that was attacked was punished with 50k fine and 0-20 technical loss (for refusal to play a game after the arena was supposedly cleaned of protesters).
Interesting how FIBA Europe will respond this time.
Guys I was there. I have the whole incident on video. Nothing SERIOUS happened. Apart from the entering of the fans and some objects thrown in the court.
Gas bombs? Bad move, yes but it was thrown at the fans! It's the reason they HAD TO go in the court!!!!
Broken arm? Where? No Apoel fan met any Karsiyaka players or member of staff.
There was also one Karsiyaka player that remained in the court in the first 2 minutes of the "assault" and was talking to one of our 'executives' (he was wearing a suit) He was in no danger at all.
Some of the fans INITIALLY went to applaud the team. Others (20 people?) just wanted the trouble that the Turkish media is now blowing out of proportion..
The fans assaulted the police. The police first assaulted the fans upon entering...
Outside the stadium the fans were shouting at the cops calling them stuff about INTERNAL ISSUES, about the PRESIDENT OF CYPRUS etc... Nothing about "protecting Turks" or whatever. Some of the fans threw flares and stones at the cops and then the cops responded with a gas bomb (again).
The players and members of staff of Karsiyaka in the meanwhile, were safe.
The area around the stadium was cleared 20 minutes the game ended. There was no SERIOUS INCIDENT.
It's just the excuse the Turkish media and government needs to create a new political status quo.
Last edited by Alvertis4; 12-22-2010 at 12:50 PM.
Some masked fanatics attacked the Turkish group with blades, knives, sticks, coins and stones and tried to lynch them. So you are right, nothing serious happened.Originally Posted by Alvertis4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2RfUy5M93g
show me (not my video btw)
It seems a pacific invasion...
Our name is not Vitoria, our name is BASKONIA.
Asturias
Can anyone close this topic please?
It is obvious that nothing happened besides a few objects being thrown while the Turkish team was leaving for the locker room. It's just Turkish propaganda.
I find the existence of the thread with the current title offensive. At least change the title if you want the topic to remain alive.
Actually you could just apologise because what happened in the yesterday's match before you found excuses.Fanatics attacked at the corridor and locker room so it isn't possible to see situations on the TV.Karsiyaka players and stuff made a press conference but I don't want to translate what they said because this topic is going to political discussion.
Impossible is nothing.
By the way I changed to the name of this topic because of misunderstood from Greeks and Cypriots
Impossible is nothing.
So do we have any evidence about their claims?
It won't be the first time Turkey tries to take advantage of sport for political issues, involving Cyprus...
There is just one video because there weren't any broadcasting about APOEL-Karsiyaka game in Turkey.We just have whatever Cyprus TV gives.
http://video.haberturk.com/spor/vide...untuleri/46058
Can you translate what fans said?
Impossible is nothing.
the fans are "invading" the court. Is there VIOLENCE? Did they violently CHASE the Turkish players? Can't you see that Karsiyaka player in the video just wandering around? Is he in danger? Why isn't he running to save his ass? Aren't there "fanatics" just right above him????
Just watch WHAT HAPPENED. I was there. I have a video of my own (not as long)
The "action" was against the CYPRIOT POLICE, OUTSIDE THE STADIUM. Not because of the Turks, but because people hate the police.
The fact that a Turkish team was the opponent just gave more attention to fans to go to the game. Violence was against police, attendance was coz of a Turkish team that is now based on an old Greek city that is in Turkey... There are people who have roots from that place.
Should I say it again? That there was no violence against the Turks in Cyprus? Or does that youtube clip cover that myth?
and you re not the first overnationalist greek that can never be objective. greece is always innocent huh?? u made me laugh, really..
someone please close the topic, people can find out the truth on the internet or maybe on TVs. no need for another stupid turkish-greek polemic here.
I see no violence in those vids. Peaceful "invasion" on court. Karsiyaka players calmly wandering around as fans enter the court. Surely out of order behaviour, yet no obvious violence whatsoever.
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Do APOEL fans know Dardanels War?
APOEL fans went to the locker room of the Turkish team to break the doors, using stones and wood.
Police intervened in time, which prevented supporters of the Cypriot team without injuries occur.
Three young people aged 15 were arrested by Cypriot police on the incidents. A police spokesman Michael Katsounotos said the intervention of members of the Police Department in Nicosia was "immediate and decisive catalyst in order to protect the mission of the Turkish team, which was achieved thanks to the heroic efforts of our members." \
He stressed that there was no injury to members of the Turkish team, led by police escort to accommodation in the premises of the GSP stadium and now depart from Cyprus.
Mr. Katsounotos said that there was any provocation on the part of the Turkish team and added that supporters of APOEL acted "completely unprovoked and unnecessary".
google translation of what police spokesman Michael Katsounotos said today, taken directly from a greek news site.
If you guys need any proofs just read what your police says.
Oh wait maybe turkish government bribed the cypriot police officer.
karşıyaka players say there we 2000 fans n only 5 police. when 2500 paok fans came to türkiye around 5000 police protected them. i really hate our current government. now i just wonder if a greek cypriot team comes to izmir how many millions of police will protect them.
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