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    Quote Originally Posted by MaccabiTA View Post
    I have no idea how to download from there
    Get yourself an account there fo free.
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    that's for you maccabeo.

    btw, thanks goga, I downloaded it and really enjoyed the game. it also made me wonder where was maccabeo's weekly anti-Ohayon comment?

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    what a game between jerusalem and maccabi, i realy recommand you to watch.
    yogev amazing, in the future he will be the leader of maccabi.

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    due to israeli sites maccabi is trying to sign the next players:
    doron perkins(if he will show that hes healthy)
    yotam halperin
    sylvan landsberg-a jew sf/sg from maccabi haifa, a great talent
    refael hettsheimeir-a 206 center from zaragoza of the ACB
    rice tyrese-a pg from Lietuvos rytas

    maccabi also try to extend blatt contract, blatt say he want to stay
    and david blu thinking about retire when the season end.

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    Perkins, if healthy, would be good but what's the reason to sign Tyrese Rice then? He is good, I have seen him play in Germany but I don't think he is on the needed level already. After all, Mallet is not worse but similarly not exactly fitting. Rice is neither Farmar nor Pargo nor Bynum. Halperin and Landesberg are good. I think, Sylven has got better this season and will only progress. Hettsheimer? Why? To get more size? What does the management want to do with Hendrix? Play him at PF? Blu retiring? At this age and with his good health? I don't believe it.

    Interesting news nevertheless.
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    maccabi keep trying to extened langford, hendrix and sofo contracts.
    they offering hendrix a 3-years contract, he will get 800,000 dollars for the first season
    also it has been reproted that it seems that mallet won't stay in maccabi for the next season.

    goga-blu said that he thinking of retiring beacuse he want to be more with his family and want to try another things in his life(his words was "i can another things than basketball")

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    I still don't believe he will finish his career now. He still has some years in front of him, where he can make good money. On the other hand, has family is not living in Israel, right?

    800.000 USD for a season is too much money for Hendrix. I actually do not think, he can command much more money somewhere else. If someone pays that amount of money to a foreign player, that one is supposed to be a leader, not a workhorse. But who knows... It was a different financial situation, yet Morris got a fat contract in Moscow back then. Fischer has more size, so he could command a higher salary.

    But then again, if you want to have both, Sofo and Hendrix on board, you still have James (where to unload him?), do you go after a fourth center?

    Mallet won't stay with Maccabi imho. He is a good scorer but nothing outworldly and since he is no Pargo or Farmar, he needs to be more of a distributor, sth. he can do much worse than scoring.
    Maccabi needs a tall enough PG who can shoot and organize the game imho. It needs awing player who can create his own shot. And it needs another offensive option under the basket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goga78 View Post
    I still don't believe he will finish his career now. He still has some years in front of him, where he can make good money. On the other hand, has family is not living in Israel, right?

    800.000 USD for a season is too much money for Hendrix. I actually do not think, he can command much more money somewhere else. If someone pays that amount of money to a foreign player, that one is supposed to be a leader, not a workhorse. But who knows... It was a different financial situation, yet Morris got a fat contract in Moscow back then. Fischer has more size, so he could command a higher salary.
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    it was wrote that hendrix value in europe is 1.2 million dollars.
    real madrid is going to offer him 1 million euro, and there are rumors that cska and barca thinkibg about sign him.

    about the centers-both sofo and hendrix are expensive, in the management the thinking to realise one of them(i read an artical that says that they thinking to keep hendrix).
    so they are will try to find another center instead of sofo.
    a friend of mine who say he have some conection with maccabi, told me that some team in the israeli league want him and maby maccabi will realise him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironwill23 View Post
    it was wrote that hendrix value in europe is 1.2 million dollars.
    real madrid is going to offer him 1 million euro, and there are rumors that cska and barca thinkibg about sign him.
    Hendrix has scored 13 ppg in the ACB in his first season but to me he is most effective, if he isn't doing much on offense, except playing pick'n roll and going for putbacks. That way, he scores enough points and is good for the team. A team that can afford a defensive player for such an amount should have enough money for doing so. But those teams can afford size that Hendrix can't give. I think, rumours are rumours. After two years with Blatt Hendrix should know his limitations and the advantage of playing for Blatt.

    CSKA has Krstic and Kaun at center. I don't think, Kaun will land in the NBA next year. Offensively, Kaun isn't great. Defensively, he has a massive body, is agile and has size. On PF they will have Khryapa and Vorontsevich. Of course, the team could use another big, one that could play both positions. Just because Khryapa is injury prone. But Hendrix? Too similar to Kaun.

    Barca? Lorbek, Perovic, Ndong, Vasquez, Wallace (?). Theoretically, they can put half of them in the dustbin.

    about the centers-both sofo and hendrix are expensive, in the management the thinking to realise one of them(i read an artical that says that they thinking to keep hendrix).
    so they are will try to find another center instead of sofo.
    Both, Sofo and Hendrix, will cost like one Lorbek for Barcelona. Even less. While Lorbek also commands a backup. That's not a lot of money. But while Sofo is the focal point on offense, who heaves Maccabi to a different level, Hendrix is a blue-collar worker. No player in Europe can replace Sofo for Maccabi. If he goes, Maccabi will need to change many things.

    a friend of mine who say he have some conection with maccabi, told me that some team in the israeli league want him and maby maccabi will realise him.
    In Israel? You surely mean James, not Sofo, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goga78 View Post
    In Israel? You surely mean James, not Sofo, right?
    yes, i didn't mention it but it was an answer about james.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goga78 View Post
    Maccabi needs a tall enough PG who can shoot and organize the game imho. It needs awing player who can create his own shot. And it needs another offensive option under the basket.
    wow i'm impressed we are agree.
    about mallet. he isnt a play maker . as scorer he could stay but just as shooter. anyway considering also his age, he will be released.
    i think mta will change a lot next year. starting from the coach. don tknow about sofo. the fact his wife is actually in greece and not with him, it sound like he could came back to greece.
    i guess he would like to grew up his new son in greece.
    macvan blu pnini are imho only players who must stay . unfortunatly, i bet ohayon will be confirmed. i'd like to play with hendrix as pf and adding new c. surely we'd need many new players considering how many players failed this year. i deeply hope in halperin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maccabeo View Post
    wow i'm impressed we are agree.
    about mallet. he isnt a play maker . as scorer he could stay but just as shooter. anyway considering also his age, he will be released.
    i think mta will change a lot next year. starting from the coach. don tknow about sofo. the fact his wife is actually in greece and not with him, it sound like he could came back to greece.
    i guess he would like to grew up his new son in greece.
    macvan blu pnini are imho only players who must stay . unfortunatly, i bet ohayon will be confirmed. i'd like to play with hendrix as pf and adding new c. surely we'd need many new players considering how many players failed this year. i deeply hope in halperin.
    cut the bullshit already.. Maccabi offered him a new contract for 2 more years, Blatt talked to the media in the last days about how he wants to stay with the team more than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maccabeo View Post
    wow i'm impressed we are agree.
    On what? When the season has ended, some contracts will run out, some desired players will be free to come over. It is a future situation and doesn't have anything to do with what happened before this season or during this season. Landesberg was not targeted due to Scheyer coming over and Halperin couldn't come. Papaloukas was intended to be that tall playmaker but there are not exactly any of those available. I actually don't know, whom MTA would have to sign for that spot with size. None of the guys in question can really make a difference and then it's cheaper and better to count on smaller PGs that come to Maccabi in quality aplenty. Maccabi needs another scoring option in low post. It has capable scorers in Eliyahu and Blu but Blu is hitting more from outside, while eliyahu is a finesse player. I'm talking about some beef under the basket and can score on his own with regularity.

    about mallet. he isnt a play maker . as scorer he could stay but just as shooter. anyway considering also his age, he will be released.
    He will be too expensive to be another Derek Sharp type of player and he is not Derek Sharp. Neither on the court nor off it.

    i think mta will change a lot next year. starting from the coach. don tknow about sofo. the fact his wife is actually in greece and not with him, it sound like he could came back to greece.
    i guess he would like to grew up his new son in greece.
    I think, there is no reason for Blatt to leave. He is where he wanted to be.
    Sofo in Greece? PAO or Oly? Since Obradovic is said to leave PAO, Sofo might be sth. for the new coach. However, I think, the first option for him is Maccabi. Only Blatt has heaved him to a different level.

    macvan blu pnini are imho only players who must stay . unfortunatly, i bet ohayon will be confirmed. i'd like to play with hendrix as pf and adding new c. surely we'd need many new players considering how many players failed this year. i deeply hope in halperin.
    Pnini will stay despite his bad season. Blu will stay, if he continues playing bball. Macvan will most probably land in T-A. Ohayon is the future. He is a domestic player, doing very well. He is young. He will stay and everyone wants him to stay. I don't think, many players will be released. Mallet and Papaloukas will leave for sure. Langford will chose his options but he is not irreplaceable. Smith is giving me headache. He is actually a scorer who turned to be a great defender but he is afraid to show any initiative on offense. The "3" position is too weak on offense with him and Pnini in their current form (whole season so far).
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    What a tough cookie today. Uff.
    If Hendrix continues to play like that, he'd rather be signed quickly :-) With Sofo getting problems with his knees and thus his PT mightily decreasing, Hendrix got more minutes and is delivering great results: an index rating of 17.6 and his team with a winning record in the Top 16 so far. Qualification to the next phase, btw, too. What does it remind me of? Oh, yes, Hendrix also upped his game in the Top 16 and in the playoffs last season. For a guy playing out of position, constantly facing opponents at least half-a-head taller than him, he is still rebounding a lot and blocking a lot of shots, playing solid defense and now scoring in double figures. Even one well-know "special fan" here considers keeping him as a PF. Actually, it could work well with a finesse center, one that can somewhat shoot from midrange and somewhat pass the ball. What an overabundance of PFs Maccabi could have next season :-)
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    Hendrix has really taken his game to the next level, he's just amazing this top 16 and he's shown real progress in the last year and a half, I hope he stays as well but I'm not sure if he will.. other teams can also see what he's doing and the media here reports that some big Spanish teams are already after him, Real for example wouldn't mind paying 1m euro for a player like (they already paid something like that for Fischer..) and if they give him such offer I doubt he's gonna stay in Maccabi unless he gives up on A LOT of money

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    Names floating around for next season- Hairston, Domercant, Mejia, Rice, Loncar and Batista.

    Also, how about Drew Nicholas, who Blatt has coached twice before? Not sure why it didn't really work out for him in Milano.

    Discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz View Post
    Names floating around for next season- Hairston, Domercant, Mejia, Rice, Loncar and Batista.

    Also, how about Drew Nicholas, who Blatt has coached twice before? Not sure why it didn't really work out for him in Milano.

    Discuss.
    Is the Israeli press mentioning those players?
    In order to discuss these players, look how much they are making now. Hairston get 1 mio. Domercant is old and needs to have the total freedom of shooting. Mejia has an expensive contract in Moscow and won't be released. He will play as soon as they part with Siskauskas. Next season? Rice is not expensive but I would prefer Perkins. On the other hand, I have my reservations about Perkins or Rice with Langford. Langford needs a pure shooter as PG playing along with him, not someone who would like to hold the basketball in his hands longer. Loncar gets over a million, is very capable on offense but concedes too much on defense. Esteban Batista? Not really. He has only regressed since his first year in Israel. Hendrix is much better.

    Nicholas is interesting however. He is a good scorer who was turned into a defensive player by Obradovic. If he regain his offensive self-confidence (look at Smith), he can be a good addition. On the other hand, since Maccabi is after Haperin, where should be the room for signing Nicholas?

    Another question. Does anyone have a link for today's Maccabi Tel-Aviv vs. Maccabi Haifa game? Preferrably one that is working in Germany or for an American IP?
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    All those guys bar Hairston were brought up on eurobasket

    ... In preparation for next season and after Head Coach David Blatt approved reports of a possible contract extension with Maccabi, Tel-Aviv's budget's makes ends meet. As a result, the likelihood of re-signing top dollar players such as Sofoklis Schortsanitis and Keith Langford, is currently all up in the air.

    On the other hand, potential recruits catching the team's spotlight are Unics Kazan's 32-year-old guard Henry Domercant, who's averaging a Euroleague career high 16.13ppg. Like wine, Domercant seems to improve and progress as time goes by and may land in Tel-Aviv sooner than later, if Kazan draws Maccabi in the Elite 8. Yet, his two-year deal with the Russian squad appears to be an obstacle.

    BC Khimky Moscow's smart and efficient Croatian Kresimir Loncar, is also on the radar. Despite playing just two Euroleague games this season, Loncar posted numbers of 20.5ppg on 65.2% field goal shooting, in addition to grabbing nearly 9 rebounds per game.

    Lithuania's Lietuvos Rytas Vilnius explosive point guard Tyrese Rice is also high on demand, as are CSKA's Sammy Mejia (has contract for another season) and Maccabi's former player currently hooping for Anadolu Efes, Esteban Batista.

    http://www.eurobasket.com/Israel/basketball.asp

    Hairston rumour mentioned on Sportando from Israeli source.

    The rumor about Maccabi Tel Aviv targeting Malik Hairston for the coming season is not confimed, as reported to Sportando by a reliable Israeli source.

    http://www.sportando.net/eng/italy/s...em_lorbek.html

    But like you say Hairston is expensive and a player Milan would look to build around. CSKA said they would let Mejia go out on loan this season buthe should have less competition next year.

    Can Halperin definitely get out of the second year of the Spartak contract?

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    considering all names posted: let me prey domercant and mainly nicholas stay far from mta.
    also basketball players get old ,not just common people.
    domercant is still playing well, but for how long? and he wouldnt fit or blatt basketball
    nicholas is already a disaster and no more the player he was

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    Can someone tell me who the hell is number 15 jersery that played a game against Maccabi Haifa yesterday? It is not Shawn James, it's a tall Israeli guy. Who's he?
    What number is Shawn James's jersery? And when is he coming back to play again?


    P.s I hope Sofo will still play for Maccabi for the next couple of years and Maccabi get Perkins back!!! He's awesome!



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