Mirsad was not go to guy but winner. but i am not so hopeful after unlucky injuries.Originally Posted by Levenspiel
Gašper Vidmar is a question mark for me. He is coming off a serious knee injury and I wouldn't expect him to contribute right away. In my opinion the center line of Fenerbahce for next season is a bit above average for Euroleague level but still not on the level you would require from a Euroleague F4 contender.
The main question mark for me is point guards - Jerrells and Ukić. Spahija, seriously??? Those two together??? They can't be controlled and lack of basketball IQ at both guys is more than obvious. This is going to be one hell of a circus. Preldžić will have to play much more of a point forward if they'll want to be successfull. No offense to Fenerbahce fans.
About Gasper, he was working with the team and ready to play at the TBL Play-Off's Matej, but staff didn't want to risk him. As i heard, he is fully fit and ready for next season.
You are totally right.
I like Ukic, he can be starting PG of any EL team including Barca, CSKA so on but can't be star player in any F4 contender as he sucks in clutch time, we have seen many times that mentally he is not strong enough to dominate the game in breaking points.
Because of this I have expected a winner SG or SF to solve lack of leadership, for example Eidson or someone like this, but Aydın Örs-Spahija preferred to sign Bogdanovic. He is not better than Ömer Onan, Preldzic and Marko Tomas currently, this signing just added depth to SG-SF rotation, but didnt increase quality of team.
James Gist is also OK for any EL team, but just OK, nothing more. He can't make difference for Fenerbahçe, can't take team quality to an upper level. He could be just a backup PF for a serious F4 contender, but starter for FB.
We also don't know how can Mirsad return, he is 35-36 years old, coming back from such a hard injury is not so easy for him. I don't believe that he can play in this level anymore but hoping to be wrong of course.
Vidmar looks like the best one in our front court. I have no question about his return, he will be fully fit until the begining of season.
PF: Gist-Mirsad
C: Vidmar-Oğuz-Kaya
When I look this front court, PF position is much weaker than C. Gist and Mirsad are not enough. But people think that we need a C, the main reason in this, nobody trusts Vidmar. For example if there was Bourousis instead of Vidmar, noone would talk that we need a C. Anyway Vidmar is not the weakest man in this rotation, we should upgrade Gist, then possible to think about upgrading Vidmar.
PG: Ukic-Jerrells
SG: Onan-Kinsey
SF: Preldzic-Tomas-Bogdanovic
PF: Gist-Mirsad
C: Vidmar-Savaş-Peker
That will be our roster next season, I am not sure if it is weaker or stronger than last year's one. But aiming F4 with this players looks weird to me. I have expected to sign 2 top players who could make us one of the best teams, for example Eidson and Fotsis + Cook instead of Jerrels. Then I would be hopeful for the next season but if to be realistic now, with this roster going forward after top 16 depends on luck in draw. QF will be a successful degree, F4 %1 for me.
The last paragraph for two-faced people...
I remember 2-3 years ago, what was written in forums about Tanjevic. There was an Aydın Örs diaspora, who couldn't accept replacing him with Tanjevic. This people could never accept Tanjevic there, always found a reason to hit him, didn't appreciate right things done. Who defends Vidmar and Preldzic today, 3 years ago were hitting Tanjevic that he got commission from this signings so on.
Today, Aydın Örs took control and we are listening building system, being team and team chemistry lies. If Tanjevic had signed Jerrells, Bogdanovic and Gist, they would be hitting him but as Aydın Örs did it, they can just say "Aydın Örs knows better", "if he did it, he knows something". "Being a team more important than having stars", "look at at Siena, they don't have stars also (I don't know what are Kaukenas-McCalebb-Lavrinovic though)", "F4 is not so important, playing in this level always is much more important than being in F4" and so on.
Come on guys, what Aydın Örs and Tanjevic did for Fenerbahçe can't be compared, Aydın Örs still has long way to reach Tanjevic's contribution to the team. Maybe he did just %40 of what Tanjevic had done yet, so don't overrate Aydın Örs.
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I heard different. I heard his knee is not fully ready and still gets swollen from time to time. It is normal (I know, I had similar injury) but this means he should be careful, take his time and work his way back to shape carefully and without any pressure to skip some steps. There is also mental factor when facing and recovering from such injuries. Of course he should be physically ready untill start of the season but take into consideration that he didn't play almost whole season. He will need time, believe me. He won't be fully fit and in playing rhythm from the start. I don't know if Fenerbahce with F4 ambitions is ready to give him time and wait for him to come back fully in shape. That's my concern.
Last edited by elaj; 06-29-2011 at 01:44 PM.
Vidmar is not ready to play right now. He still has some knee problems and It is too hard to play with these knees. I heard he can only runs in the trainings. I like Vidmar,his effort and toughness.He is not able to create his offense but he likes to defend .
Fenerbahçe's team squad for 2011-2012 doesn't seem to me ready for F4. There are good players but no star or winner except Emir Preldzic but sometimes his offensive skills are not enough to win some matches against the elite Euroleague teams like Barcelona,Panathinaikos.
I appreciate these informations and espcially agree that it's not easy to mentally recover from these injuries. But my source is the coaching staff and they look confident about his return and contribution. But as i heard, he'll most probably not take a place at EC 2011, at least Fener staff doesn't want it.
and also except Omer Onan. He is getting better day by day. He is one of the most experienced player in the team.
and for me, beginning is not the main part for euroleague. we have started with three winnings including olimpiakos at Greece, but we couldnt qualified top 16.
so vidmar will have enough time to recover.
The techical staff plays gamble on tall man issue because, that's the truth, we need a tough Center. I am really very curious how the staff will find solution if one of that position's players is injured. It seems they forget the last year at no time. According to Reflections on the media, they thought to annul Kinsey's contract to bring a Center but they declared off later on.
Last edited by Overthetop; 07-01-2011 at 05:27 PM.
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General Manager Aydın Örs:
Gist is no longer Fenerbahçe Ülker player. We are looking for another player instead of him.
Last edited by Overthetop; 07-07-2011 at 08:40 PM.
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i realy wonder how they can find a player at the moment, because its a little bit late and last event will prevent to focus to basketball
Don't worry. There are still a lot of available players out there. Not just the European ones, they are also US based players. Undrafted players of 2011 class, FA NBA players,... They somehow get what they need.
For sure, there's no rumor for the present.
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Just CSKA finished transfer yet, all other teams looking for additions. Lots of players available around...
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I hope that the technical staff target preferable players who can make us stronger. A quirky move like last year's Sean May transfer will dispirit us, we already are in that situation more than enough.
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we wants a pf!!!
Vidmar, Savas, Turkcan, Peker.
What a joke! Fenerbahce needs a PF and a Center.
I can't make of what they try to do. Our managers and Spahija exert a special effort to show/make our frontcourt weak. But this farce may be change with a quality transfer like Freeland.
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Roko Ukic out for Eurobasket 2011 with stress fracture in ankle.
http://www.salsabasket.net/turkiye-b...es-kirigi.html
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James Gist will be back at 3th September, therefore Fenerbahçe Ülker won't terminate his contract.
http://www.htspor.com/beko_tbl/haber...-gistin-cezasi
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