Greek A1 2011-12 news and scores
Its all over the media here that Oly and Pao both applied to play in NLB league in "near future"....
Would Greek federation allow it.. what would other Greek clubs say?
http://www.sport24.gr/Basket/EuropeB...s.1180536.htmlOriginally Posted by Cibos
In this article it is said that the Adriatic league has been pressing the two teams to participate next year.
The Greek administration has been promoting last year the idea of a "Mediterranean league", so I assume that they wouldn't be too thrilled with the 2 major players playing in another league. However, this mediterranean league is just an idea for the moment and if I were Pao or Oly, I would go for something tangible that involves more competition and gate receipts/sponsors...
Why compete in a league that is largely filled with no-name teams? Obviously, so that the League and its clubs make money off two big European teams.
Both teams should stick with the majors (Euroleague)
It's been reported here that the league was approached by your clubs. EFES also expressed desire to participate so we might even have something close to the full blown Med league one day. All Balkans league would be ace.
NLB is based as domestic league. They'd play it instead of Greek league and together with Euroleague.
Partizan, Cibona, Maccabi, Olimpija etc.. all no name teams? Apart from Oly and PAO no one from Greek league would be even close to the top. PAOK and Aris would at best be midtable.
I think that only viable option for entire region (Greece, Turkey, Croatia, Serbia, Slovenia, Israel..) is full season of such "super" domestic league. Our domestic markets are simply too small to support such clubs (title aspirations) on long term basis. Wouldn't you rather see Euroleague team EVERY week than i don't know.. Iraklis, Panellinios, Ikaros?
what Olympiacos and Pao would earn if joining adriatic is 4 more competitive games a season against Partizan and maybe Olympia.They'd steamroll over the likes of Sirokee,KK Zagreb,Cibona,Buducnoct just like they steamroll over the rest greek teams(not taking into consideration the budget cuts,that would close the gap between them and the rest,but this also applies to the greek league.)
Cedevita would easily finish behind Oly and Pao in Greek league.. they were third in Eurocup last season and they are pumping lots of cash into the club.
Games against Partizan, Olimpija, Cedevita, Maccabi are 8 more good games than what you have in your league now.
You really think that Oly and PAO will be able to continue to be competative on European level with the level of money that Greek league generates?
Such leagues are the future of Euro basketball.. regardless of if we want it or not.
Panelinios was 4th in eurocup in 2009-10 season and did not win a single game against them in 7 tries during the same season.Maccabi is playing on a wild card,we'll see if they continue in the future.Adriatic league is stronger but not by much
Not wild card.. they signed long term contract.
Anyway.. it doesn't need to be Adriatic League.. it can be some newly formed league as well... i just for the financial sake of clubs from the region to bring all this to even higher level. Dunno in which way are Greek fans thinking, but i think that you guys aren't happy with the current situation either.
Maybe instead of the Mediterranean League, maybe they are just trying to turn the Adriatic into it. Instead of making a whole new league, maybe they will just enlarge the Adriatic. It makes more sense financially and logistically.
Adriatic League, becomes full eastern Mediterranean League. You already have the same basic teams involved, that were supposed to be trying for the Med league, except the Mideast clubs. But doing the league with just European side clubs (and Israel) makes more sense.
I mean you had Cyprus league champs, Akademik, Efes, Panellinios, Aris, PAOK, Galatsaray, Besiktas, Fener, Olympiacos, PAO, Partizan, Hapoel Jerusalem, and Maccabi - these were all the clubs that were rumored to be interested in the Med league.
So, maybe just expanding the Adriatic is what they finally decided on.
ex Yugoslav states
1. Olimpija
2. Partizan
3. Krka
4. Cedevita
5. Zagreb
6. Cibona
7. Split
8. Budocnost
9. Hemofarm
10. Red Star
11. Zadar
12. Igokea
13. Radnicki
14. Siroki
Greece
15. Panathinaikos
16. Olympiacos
17. Aris
18. PAOK
19. Panellinios
Turkey
20. Galatasaray
21. Besiktas
22. Efes
23. Fenerbahce
Israel
24. Maccabi
25. Hapoel Jerusalem
Bulgaria
26. Akademik
Czech Republic
27. CEZ Nymburk
Cyprus
28. league champs
I can see something like this being feasible. 14 Adriatic clubs, plus the 14 others from the rumored Med league, clubs from Greece, Cyprus, Bulgaria, Israel, Turkey, and throw in Nymburk.
It makes sense. You could divide up into two separate divisions of 14 teams each. By each year you could rotate teams within the divisions, so as to have all the big clubs getting to play each other.
With home and home that would be a 26 game schedule. Then you could take the top 2 clubs from each division and go to a final four or something like that. It's like a 26-28 game season.
With a 26-28 game season in Adriatic (or maybe this would be the rumored Med league).........all the teams could still play in their domestic cups and even if they wanted to, they could drop into the playoffs of their domestic leagues.
I know the Israeli league said they would not do this, but let's get real here, after a couple seasons without Maccabi they will agree to it. You could have PAO and Olympiacos just start the Greek League at the semifinals for example, like how Partizan already does in the Serbian League.
It is very doable. It would be basically like an eastern Euroleague. Personally, I would love if something like this happened. This seems doable fairly quickly, if PAO and Olympiacos join. If they want to make it all work, they can, as I said, just change the name from Adriatic Basketball Association, to Mediterranean Basketball Association.
For starters, Israel should not be part of Adriatic League for geographic reasons.
Except for Partizan and Olympija, how many teams in the Adriatic League have made the Euroleague Final Four in the past 13 years. Zero. Oly and Pao have been regular Final Four and Final participants in the last 17 years.
The other Greek teams outside of Oly and Pao have not been strong in recent years but the topic was about whether or not those 2 should join the Adriatic League and not the other Greek teams. Also, teams like Paok and Aris have had better Euro runs than most Adriatic League teams in recent years.
is there any site with rosters for greek teams? thx lot
Where cand I find a 2011/12 Esake Schedule??
The National Committee for Professional Sports has given a certificate to participate in the next championship only to Panathinaikos, Aris, Ikaros and Rethumno.
The rest either didn't "have time" to submit their envelopes or their envelopes were not complete.
I know this isnt right thread but, do you have photos of Sofo's wedding? Heard he got married last night but I couldnt find photos on the net.
Maccabi Tel Aviv
EUROLEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIPS - 1977 & 1981 & 2001 & 2004 & 2005
Intercontinental Cup - 1980
Adriatic League Championship - 2012
OT:
Congrats Sofo!
What I would like to see are pics of the buffet and what Sofo had to eat
He didn't have to eat anything but the wedding cake. But...OT:
Congrats Sofo!
What I would like to see are pics of the buffet and what Sofo had to eat
postponing of the 1st matchday of the greek A1 is another sign of how amateur-ish the Greek League is working. You cant wait the last days to sign TV agreement and sponsorship deals. How on earth can you make planning, if you dont know that revenues?
news from today is that the Greek A1 will start this weekend, with no TV coverage and they will try to seal a deal until the next weekend. Otherwise they might still decide a lock-out again.
Sorry, a bit of a random question. I read on a French site that PAO's player's salary this season is 23 million Euros. Is this right? Also, can anyone dig out how much each of its players is going to get paid this year?
A lot to ask I know, just just curious...
Thanks
The whole budget may reach this, with travel expenses, taxes etc.
The total salary of the players is definitely less than that
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