Georgetown Univ Basketball brawl with Chinese Team Bayi Rockets
http://news.yahoo.com/us-chinese-bas...GVzdAM-;_ylv=3
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ClAM3zXx-I
I'd have to say after watching the footage, that the Bayi Team instigated the fight and then attacked the Georgetown players in a pretty savage manner considering they were the "Hosts"
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ClAM3zXx-I
I'd have to say after watching the footage, that the Bayi Team instigated the fight and then attacked the Georgetown players in a pretty savage manner considering they were the "Hosts"[/QUOTE]
Never ending story. Attacking with chairs,tables and other stuff out of frustration...poor souls.
What the f**k is wrong with China?
Bunch of cowards !!!
But I saw a Georgetown player throwing the first punch.
Chinese basketball players are psycho! This is at least the fourth such incident I've heard of over the past five years where Chinese players, either with the NT or CBA team, have brutally attacked opposing players. If this continues, teams from other countries are going to eventually stop touring China.
I'm trying to with hold judgement but jesus everyone just seemed to mob the Georgetown players. Not just the Rockets, but staff, there was a guy in khaki's swinging a chair, not to mention the standard reports of bottles being thrown from the stands.
If a Georgetown player started it, it seems this was at least a disproportionate reaction to it.
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The Georgetown player threw the punch after he was flagrantly slammed into by the Bayi player, while surrounded by two others. The Bayi players then used chairs and other objects to assault the Georgetown players, as well as the crowd which used bottles to attack the Georgetown players.Originally Posted by TDW
I think its important to use the word Bayi rather than Chinese, because this isnt a racial issue and brawls happen in all countries. But I have noticed after watching this and the China/Brazil fight, that the players in that country cross the line into dirty play, whenever they get frustrated or they want to "play physical" which they dont know how to do within proper limits.
According to the Georgetown SID the free throw differential was 57-15 in favor of Bayi at the time of the brawl.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...pro-team-brawl
Article from the Washington Post--the reporter was at the game:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...eNJ_story.html
Last edited by JGX; 08-18-2011 at 10:30 PM.
then the game was a total sham. 57 fts with still 10 mins left in the game, would be on pace to set an all time record for ft's in a game. and there's no way coach john thompson III was instructing his players to play in that manner, considering the trip is to prepare them for their college season.
my guess is the Georgetown players were screwed by the refs, cheap shotted by the Bayi players, and then assaulted by them as well as the spectators.
Embarrassing incident. But some points I want to make. I try not to be judgmental:
1. This isn't the only incident in the summer. On June 3rd, Foshan Kylins had a bench-clearing brawl (a photo here) with a U.S. team, claimed to be NBDL's Utah Flash but probably consists of ABA/IBL level players coached by the Utah coach. The game never resumed. Just 2 days ago there was an altercation between Liaoning Dinosaurs and U. Hawaii which saw all bench players on the court, but both sides calmed down and play resumed.
2. Will foreign teams stop coming to China? As we speak, Georgetown is currently the 4th NCAA DI team in China that I know of, along with Duke, U. Hawaii, and Valparaiso Women's team. There are multiple other so-called "All-Star" teams in China, one I know is Houston's TGBTG amateur team who just arrived; and another who will Beijing Basketball Festival next week. If I have to venture a guess, GT is probably the 20th US team that came to China this summer. Brazil's NBB still sent a team to China in May after the brawl. Lithuania, which seems to complain about the China trips frequently, comes back every year in some representation.
In both the incidents in #1, a rematch took place and was peaceful. Bayi will play Gtown again tomorrow.
All in all, I estimate there were ~200 games between foreign and Chinese teams in China this summer. (The NT alone had close to 20+ home games already).
3. In 10 years of following CBA, there has never been a brawl that stopped the game entirely to my recollection. Altercations and fights, yes, far and few in between, but never brawls. Yet a lot of brawls against foreign teams.
4. Home referees are blatantly biased, this happens in CBA too.
5. Chinese teams always have more FTs than non-Asian teams in international competitions. Check the ongoing London Invitational, China outrebounded by 15+ every game but always has more FTs, including 14 more vs. Australia. Also the 2010 WBC, China was a leader in FTs while being a poor rebounding team and a poor ball-handling team.
6. Perhaps related to #5, but China gets injured at an extremely fast rate playing against non-Asian teams, as Wang Shipeng, Xirelijiang went down after 2 games in London, and Wang Zhizhi today headed to the locker room in 1Q to never return. Last time during the brawl against Brazil, Zhang Qingpeng had a concussion (which occurred before the brawl) and wore a neck brace for a week.
7. Chinese fans grew up not watching basketball but European football. While it's very rare in NBA games for fans to throw things, it is very common in the football scene.
8. The guy in khaki is a player, named Han Shuo. He's not injured but did not play, like some other Bayi starters. The players on the floor were mostly junior players. I hardly recognize most of them, but the tall player who was at the start of the incident was Cao Yan, a player who was just in Adidas Nations and probably won't be in CBA in 2 years.
Last edited by sinobball; 08-18-2011 at 11:55 PM.
aim low, score high
Audio description by same reporter:
http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/v...WrLcfF3xTx3sOi
The two teams are supposed to meet again on Sunday
lol nothing new..its China.
And i wont be surprised if they will deny any accusations against them and pretend to be the clean ones. And i think their staffs will not reprimand them for such actions. I bet their proud of their players for doing such.
China,maybe a fan of Chuck Norris...
Instead of stopping the fight, against a lone fallen player,the chinese bench attacked. lol
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There is a zero percent chance of this happening.
I'm pretty sure a free throw differential of 57-15 is a bit more than just the usual china getting more free throws in international games.
from Washington Post:What Wash. Post does not mention, most likely intentionally, was what happened before that stoppage. According to fans, when Xu Zhonghao tried to dunk he was hacked bad, lost his balance and fell on his face, prompting his teammates to rush in to the court. This was when the score was 42-41.According to a report from The Washington Post's Gene Wang, Rocket forward Xu Zhonghao was blatantly taunting Georgetown head coach John Thompson III. Thompson was reportedly shaking his head. Fans from the Georgetown side who went to the game said the team was getting angry at what they thought was blatant hometown officiating. Wang said play had to be stopped three minutes into the second half when Georgetown forward Nate Lubick had words with one of the Rockets players.
And why would Xu taunt Thompson? The article makes no mention of that. What I do know is Thompson got a technical.
No doubt, 57 FTs is outrageous.
aim low, score high
Who called the technical on him... oh yeah the same refs that called 57 other fouls on Georgetown......
Georgetown Hoyas spokesperson comments on the ugly incident:
http://eye-on-collegebasketball.blog...83066/31400138
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Exactly. He got a T for complaining. And the G'town players lost their cool and started to foul hard because they couldn't get calls. And it goes downhill since.
Bayi's record in CBA was getting 65 FTs in a game in 2009, while their opponent got 24. All in all it happens a lot in China. I do remember reporters chasing referees after CBA games but players are usually calm because they are used to it.
Last year after the Brazil brawl the CBA suspended the 3 referees in the game for a long time. I'm sure the refs in this game won't have an easy time either. After all this publicity the CBA will also definitely suspend players because this has gone "political". US Vice President Joe Biden was in G'town's first Beijing game, against Shanxi, and is still in Beijing. So is Georgetown's president. Back in 2007 or so a CBA player punched a player in Taiwan (that player had a nosebleed but no brawl took place) and because it caused "bad publicity" in the sensitive cross-strait relationships the player was suspended for 2/3 of the season and was fined almost his entire annual salary.Care to bet? I say 100%. The date is Sunday.
aim low, score high
The combined FT differential in the two Duke vs. China U-23 games has been 72-25, although to be fair Duke is a much more perimeter-oriented team.
The two teams have only combined to make 48 of the 97 free throws.
Georgetown Brawl Not First For China
On Thursday, an exhibition game in China was the scene of an intense brawl between Georgetown and their Chinese opponents. While the Hoyas do not have a history of bad behavior, in-game violence is a problem that the Chinese Basketball Association has faced for years.
In 2005, a brawl broke out in the final minutes of a game against Puerto Rico in Beijing after two Chinese players launched themselves off of the bench to go after the Puerto Rican players. The clash was spurred by a foul against current Wizards player Yi Jianlian, who was playing for Beijing at the time.
An account of that fight in the New York Times showed that while the players, including Yi, were at the center of the brawl, fans “hurled abuse along with drinks, plastic bottles, yogurt and popcorn at the Puerto Rican team as it left the court."
In 2007, the fans became the aggressors during a CBA game, hurling cups and bottles at the court after a questionable call. Coincidentally, Yi was on the roster for one of the teams involved, although not present at that particular game.
The trend continued later that year, when rowdy fans in Zhejiang attacked a visiting team bus and teams from Xinjiang and Shanxi were fined after their fans threw bottles and other objects onto the court. Min Lulei, then coach of the Beijing Ducks, told the AFP that this had become common fan behavior.
"This kind of thing is very normal. The CBA has been going on for some time, even the NBA which is older, still has this kind of problem," Min said at the time. "Even if we want to change this, we still won't be able to avoid this kind of problem."
Outside of the growing fan violence, the national team prepped for the 2008 Beijing Olympics with a goal of wanting to see its players become more physical.
Many people, including former NBA star Yao Ming, felt that Chinese “non-contact style prevalent in the China Basketball Association was producing players who were not tough enough for the international game.” The solution for the CBA: allow players to be more physical going into the 2008-09 season.
"After the Olympics, we realized that unless we strengthened our physical presence, Chinese basketball would not be able to compete with the world's best," CBA chief Liu Xiaonong said at the time.
Unfortunately, CBA fans missed that memo. According to ESPN, a record $140,500 (960,000 yuan) in fines were assessed during that first season under the new playing style, some of that imposed on teams for crowd trouble.
"Some [teams] have been punished for their misbehaving fans, who were outraged partly because they did not understand the new standards the referees must enforce," Liu explained of the fines. "The league has not done a good enough job in getting the message about physicality out."
But ultimately, hot-headed fans are not to blame for the CBA’s persistent problem with violence. The league seems to lack control over its own teams, uncharacteristic of a culture known for its strong discipline.
During a CBA finals game in April 2010, two players got into a tussle under the basket, ending with a head butt and punches thrown. The teams were fined, but the players were not suspended.
In October 2010, a fight broke out during an exhibition game between the Chinese national team and Brazil, which included Chinese players kicking and punching their opponents. According to a Wall Street Journal account, the game was called when the Chinese players attacked the Brazilians as they headed back to the visiting locker room. A number of players and coaches received fines and the team was temporarily suspended from training as a result of the fray, but no game suspensions were given by the CBA.
In December 2010, FIBA -- basketball’s world governing body -- decided to take matters into its own hands by suspending China’s national team coach and three players, as well as banning three of China’s referees for one year. There were no suspensions or fines placed on Brazil, making a clear statement as to which side was to blame for the rampage.
Although they have yet to issue one for Thursday's incident, the CBA has issued an apology for the behavior of its players after each of the past altercations.
But with violence entrenched in Chinese basketball and brutal assaults finding their way into friendly exhibitions, apologies don’t go very far.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/blogs/c...128022218.html
Kind of ironic that the refs were clearly calling the game one way so that the Chinese team didn't get embarrassed... and subsequently it brought down way more embarrassment than any lopsided score would have.
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