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    Rain or Shine thinking of trading first round pick

    Rey Joble, InterAKTV · Thursday, August 9, 2012 · 9:36 pm

    Newly-crowned Governors’ Cup champion Rain or Shine proved that it is one of the deepest teams in the league after winning the first title in franchise history. Because of that, coach Yeng Guiao hints that the team may not need to reload in the upcoming rookie draft.

    “We don’t want any more duplication in our players’ positions. Most of the talented players who will enter the draft are forwards, wingmen and guards,” Guiao told InterAKTV in a telephone interview. “What we need now is a legitimate center. Right now, the only center I see who’s ready for the PBA is June Mar Fajardo.”

    The Elasto Painters won the Governors’ Cup with Best Import Jamelle Cornley manning the slot for the team.

    Fajardo, a 6-foot-10 center out of Cebu, is expected to be picked first overall by the Petron Blaze Boosters. Rain or Shine owns the No. 7 pick in the draft, and Guiao said the team may trade it.

    The rebuilding Alaska Aces, which owns the second pick in the draft, expressed their interest in the Rain or Shine pick.

    “I’ve inquired on the No. 7 pick to see what can we offer,” said Alaska coach Luigi Trillo.

    But things could still change between now and the draft, which is set on August 19, according to Rain or Shine assistant coach Caloy Garcia.

    “We have an injured point guard,” he said, referring to Rookie of the Year Paul Lee, who is expected to be out four to five months after shoulder surgery, “and we have several players with expiring contracts.”

    Garcia also noted that Gabe Norwood and Jeff Chan may still be playing for the SMART-Gilas Pilipinas national team, which is scheduled to play in the William Jones Cup in August and the FIBA Asia Cup in September.

    He added that the team would evaluate each offer.

    “We have to find out what can they give in return. If it’s a player of our need, then a trade is a possibility. If it’s a future pick, then it should be of equal value,” he said.

    Rain or Shine would also need to re-sign several key players. Seven Elasto Painters are up for renewal this offseason. PBA All-Defensive Team member Jireh Ibañes, Ronjay Buenafe, Jervy Cruz, JR Quinahan, Ronnie Matias, Chito Jaime, and Jonathan Uyloan all have expiring contracts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nardy View Post
    Silent Killer ......

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    "Gusto talaga ni KAP (James Yap) malipat dito yung bespren niyang ILONGGO (Jeff Chan) eh. Tapos balang araw sana magka PURE ENERGY (Gary David) na rin. Kumpleto na tropa di ba"
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    Regarding this one, I just want to quote ferrari21's post in the other forum. I think this one's more accurate.

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    "Gusto talaga ni KAP malipat dito yung bespren niyang ILONGGO eh. Tapos balang araw sana magka PURE ENERGY na rin. Kumpleto na tropa di ba"

    Did you know that Gary David, Ronald Tubid, Homer Se, and Wynne Arboleda are close friends? Barkada/tropa yan sila. If I'm not mistaken, they were teammates before at Air21/FedEx. "KAP" in this tweet refers to Wynne Arboleda. He wants his bestfriend Ronald Tubid (born in Iloilo; an "ILONGGO") to join him at Air21. And perhaps "PURE ENERGY" Gary David will join them soon and kumpleto na yung tropa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nardy View Post
    http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv...rst-round-pick


    Rain or Shine thinking of trading first round pick

    Rey Joble, InterAKTV · Thursday, August 9, 2012 · 9:36 pm

    Newly-crowned Governors’ Cup champion Rain or Shine proved that it is one of the deepest teams in the league after winning the first title in franchise history. Because of that, coach Yeng Guiao hints that the team may not need to reload in the upcoming rookie draft.

    “We don’t want any more duplication in our players’ positions. Most of the talented players who will enter the draft are forwards, wingmen and guards,” Guiao told InterAKTV in a telephone interview. “What we need now is a legitimate center. Right now, the only center I see who’s ready for the PBA is June Mar Fajardo.”

    The Elasto Painters won the Governors’ Cup with Best Import Jamelle Cornley manning the slot for the team.

    Fajardo, a 6-foot-10 center out of Cebu, is expected to be picked first overall by the Petron Blaze Boosters. Rain or Shine owns the No. 7 pick in the draft, and Guiao said the team may trade it.

    The rebuilding Alaska Aces, which owns the second pick in the draft, expressed their interest in the Rain or Shine pick.

    “I’ve inquired on the No. 7 pick to see what can we offer,” said Alaska coach Luigi Trillo.


    But things could still change between now and the draft, which is set on August 19, according to Rain or Shine assistant coach Caloy Garcia.

    “We have an injured point guard,” he said, referring to Rookie of the Year Paul Lee, who is expected to be out four to five months after shoulder surgery, “and we have several players with expiring contracts.”

    Garcia also noted that Gabe Norwood and Jeff Chan may still be playing for the SMART-Gilas Pilipinas national team, which is scheduled to play in the William Jones Cup in August and the FIBA Asia Cup in September.

    He added that the team would evaluate each offer.

    “We have to find out what can they give in return. If it’s a player of our need, then a trade is a possibility. If it’s a future pick, then it should be of equal value,” he said.

    Rain or Shine would also need to re-sign several key players. Seven Elasto Painters are up for renewal this offseason. PBA All-Defensive Team member Jireh Ibañes, Ronjay Buenafe, Jervy Cruz, JR Quinahan, Ronnie Matias, Chito Jaime, and Jonathan Uyloan all have expiring contracts.
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    Talks on the sidelines of the PBA planning session here are the coming rookie draft. With 6-foot-9 Cebuano behemoth Junmar Fajardo as the consensus top pick by Petron, Alaska assistant coach and assistant team manager Dickie Bachmann said they prefer either Fil-Am Cliff Hodge or San Sebastian star Calvin Abueva as the second choice. Mondragon said Rain or Shine is looking at the best available big man. If there’s no longer available good frontcourt player in their turn at seventh, Mondragon said they might trade their draft rights. Coach Yeng Guiao has earlier expressed his intent to keep his team intact.

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    SNOW to YENG GUIAO: Anong klaseng big man po hinahanap niyo? YG: Syempre dapat merung kaunting qualities na pwedeng i-develop.
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    YENG GUIAO: Isa sa mga scenarios namin is we trade the pick on DRAFT DAY. We tab the rookie the other team wants for their player.
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    If the legitimate center with basic qualities that needs a bit of developing which Yeng Guiao needs would not come from the Rookie Draft then there's a big probability that Rain Or Shine would exchange their #7 Draft Pick for Samigue Eman who is Luigi Trillo's player at Alaska.

    The above would result in Alaska having the #2 and #7 picks becoming the center piece of Luigi's re-building of the team. The #2 is a toss-up between Cliff Hodge and Calvin Abueva. While the #7 could be Calvin Abueva, Chris Ellis, Vic Manuel, Alex Mallari or Ronald Pascual whoever is still available by that time (note this could be Trillo's order of priority). If Alaska picks Hodge at #2, there's a possibility Abueva could still be available at #7 but if they pick Abueva at #2, it's a sure thing Hodge would already be gone before the #7 pick is called.

    Please also note both the Rain Or Shine Team Management (1) and Coach Yeng Guiao (2) traded their players after they joined the National Team

    (1) In the 2010 Asian Games when then Rain Or Shine Guard Sol Mercado joined the SMART GILAS TEAM PILIPINAS, he was traded to SMART's sister company MERALCO BOLTS

    (2) In 2007 when Enrico Villanueva of Red Bull coached by Yeng Guiao was selected to the SMC-RP Team National Pool, he was traded to the SMC's San Miguel Beermen

    So I do see the possibility of Jeff Chan being traded away. But the case of Gabe Norwood is different as I think there is a gentleman's agreement between Gabe and ROS owners, Raymond Yu and Terry Que, after he was drafted and signed-up that he'll be allowed to suit-up for the National Team since that's the primary reason he came to the Philippines.
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    http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv...missioners-cup

    PBA keeps unlimited height format for Commissioner’s Cup

    Imports with no height limit will continue to strut their wares in the PBA after the league’s Board of Governors finalized the format of the league for next season.

    The Commissioner’s Cup will continue to have no ceiling for reinforcements, despite suggestions to impose a height limit for the conference.

    A source privy to the discussions said a proposal had been made to cap the import ceiling at 6-foot-9 for the conference, but the board thumbed it down.

    Last season, 6-foot-10 Denzel Bowles won the Best Import award before leading the B-MEG Llamados to the Commissioner’s Cup title. He used that performance as a springboard for a stint with the New Orleans Hornets in the NBA Summer League.

    The Governors’ Cup will once again feature a 6-foot-5 height limit. Rain or Shine, led by 6-foot-5 Best Import Jamelle Cornley, won the recently-concluded Governors’ Cup this past season.

    But a change has been approved for the format of the tournament, which will do away with the round-robin semis. Instead, it will feature quarterfinal and semifinal playoff rounds, like the Philippine Cup and the Commissioner’s Cup.

    --good job. retain the unlimited height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    The Governors’ Cup will once again feature a 6-foot-5 height limit. Rain or Shine, led by 6-foot-5 Best Import Jamelle Cornley, won the recently-concluded Governors’ Cup this past season.

    But a change has been approved for the format of the tournament, which will do away with the round-robin semis. Instead, it will feature quarterfinal and semifinal playoff rounds, like the Philippine Cup and the Commissioner’s Cup.
    And this is also a good improvement regarding the format for the last conference to avoid non-bearing games in the semis like what happened to Meralco and Petron.
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    YoonJay18 I think your analysis is more logical,


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    "Gusto talaga ni KAP malipat dito yung bespren niyang ILONGGO eh. Tapos balang araw sana magka PURE ENERGY na rin. Kumpleto na tropa di ba"

    Did you know that Gary David, Ronald Tubid, Homer Se, and Wynne Arboleda are close friends? Barkada/tropa yan sila. If I'm not mistaken, they were teammates before at Air21/FedEx. "KAP" in this tweet refers to Wynne Arboleda. He wants his bestfriend Ronald Tubid (born in Iloilo; an "ILONGGO") to join him at Air21. And perhaps "PURE ENERGY" Gary David will join them soon and kumpleto na yung tropa.
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    We can all sigh now.

    Imports with no height limit will continue to strut their wares in the PBA after the league’s Board of Governors finalized the format of the league for next season.

    The Commissioner’s Cup will continue to have no ceiling for reinforcements, despite suggestions to impose a height limit for the conference.

    A source privy to the discussions said a proposal had been made to cap the import ceiling at 6-foot-9 for the conference, but the board thumbed it down.

    Last season, 6-foot-10 Denzel Bowles won the Best Import award before leading the B-MEG Llamados to the Commissioner’s Cup title. He used that performance as a springboard for a stint with the New Orleans Hornets in the NBA Summer League.

    The Governors’ Cup will once again feature a 6-foot-5 height limit. Rain or Shine, led by 6-foot-5 Best Import Jamelle Cornley, won the recently-concluded Governors’ Cup this past season.

    But a change has been approved for the format of the tournament, which will do away with the round-robin semis. Instead, it will feature quarterfinal and semifinal playoff rounds, like the Philippine Cup and the Commissioner’s Cup.
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    there's a good chance denzel bowles will be back for bmeg....noli eala mentioned that bowles passed up the opportunity with the hornets (after hornets got robin lopez, ryan anderson, hakim warrick and anthony davis) and will instead be playing in nearby china...
    I just don't copy and paste the boxscores.....

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    if he plays in China, will he make in time for the Comms Cup?? What if his team refuses to release him?? Sayang. This is why I want the Pinoys-only rule abolished: We lose out on quality imports which improve both the profile and the standard of play in the league. I'm no businessman but I hope the PBA can work towards such a change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mangangalakal View Post
    if he plays in China, will he make in time for the Comms Cup?? What if his team refuses to release him?? Sayang. This is why I want the Pinoys-only rule abolished: We lose out on quality imports which improve both the profile and the standard of play in the league. I'm no businessman but I hope the PBA can work towards such a change.
    well like the Kenyon Martin case, BMeg can buy-out the contract of Bowles. But a CBA can only refuse to release Denzle if the CBA is still in-progress and Bowles' team is still playing. If his team had already finsished its CBA season, its imports are free to play elsewhere. Please note unlike the PBA and NBA, the CBA does not do guaranteed contracts wherein the player gets paid every month even if he is not playing or the league is off-season, in the CBA the contract is as good only as the tournament is on-going or is terminated by the team.
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    as per Snow Badua's tweet

    Pano kung sa tatlong pick niyo-- 1 lang matira? Pero may darating na isang balikbayang puro tattoo at isang Toneladang labada? Di pa sure ha
    so Petron would gave up two of its picks for?

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    Washinton and 2 picks?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatweirdguy View Post
    Washinton and 2 picks?!
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Snow's saying that Petron would trade its picks for a tattooed guy and the laundry guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangangalakal View Post
    if he plays in China, will he make in time for the Comms Cup?? What if his team refuses to release him?? Sayang. This is why I want the Pinoys-only rule abolished: We lose out on quality imports which improve both the profile and the standard of play in the league. I'm no businessman but I hope the PBA can work towards such a change.
    Marcus douthit played in china last season and played for air21 in the 2nd conf...
    I just don't copy and paste the boxscores.....

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    i think there are only 2 teams with 3 draft picks (petron and ginebra)
    the laundry guy would be washington(so there u goes the washington/santos argument), i dunno who is the tat'd guy rob reyes maybe?
    so that would be washington and tatd guy for 2 picks.
    of course theyre sister teams so a third team must be included.(is the new rule-were sister teams cant swap players even with the inclusion of a 3rd team approved na? i think i read it somewhere)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangangalakal View Post
    if he plays in China, will he make in time for the Comms Cup?? What if his team refuses to release him?? Sayang. This is why I want the Pinoys-only rule abolished: We lose out on quality imports which improve both the profile and the standard of play in the league. I'm no businessman but I hope the PBA can work towards such a change.
    Whaaat? You want no more all filipino cup? Lol...your love for foreigners amazes me...i actually want that confi xtended. The all-filipino cup is still the best and most prestigious conference in the pba.

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    Very interesting interview for coach chot, and some tidbits about smartgilas, check this out guys if its still not posted.

    hmm so pingris really want to be on smart gilas, tsk tsk tsk smc.

    PS:sorry wrong thread i guess ^.^.

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    http://www.uc3m.es/portal/page/porta...pact_workforce

    In addition, they examined the results of nearly fifty national basketball teams over a period of more thantwenty years, taking into accountthe number of foreign players in their domestic matches and controlling the impact of other factors, such as the power of theclubs, countries, etc. In this way, they have managed to demonstrate, as the study shows,that an increase in the number offoreigners in a national league tends to generate a subsequent improvement in the national team’s performance, although that team is made up of only domestic players.
    and look at spain right now

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    Don't be shockif Washington is evacuating Petron for tons of mails

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    Quote Originally Posted by all_about View Post
    Don't be shockif Washington is evacuating Petron for tons of mails
    What do you mean a tons of mails?

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