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    ^Austria is part of SMB ABL team coaching staff, maybe that's what he meant on Austria being out of SMC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by startupsold View Post
    In the NBA, being in a large financial market (Los Angeles, New york, Chicago, Miami) makes the team acquire multiple all stars because these teams are more than likely turn a profit compared to 'small market teams' , it doesn't really make a difference if the owners such as Jerry Buss-$600M (Lakers) James Dolan-$494 million (Knicks) aren't as wealthy as the others because their teams have billion-dollar television deals.

    As oppose to billionaire owners -Mark Cuban-$2.3B (Dallas), Paul Allen-$14B (Portland) who owns smaller market teams, and are less likely to spend over the cap and pay the luxury tax.

    Heck! PBA should adapt the luxury tax policy from the NBA.
    Then rich teams would just go over the cap and pay the tax-- see: Knicks.

    Point is, any rules and regulations would not assure the league that it will rid itself of bad management.
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    So we can say

    Tim's BMEG paycheck > Luigi, Louie, Leo, Aric and Charles Tiu combined

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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    Then rich teams would just go over the cap and pay the tax-- see: Knicks.

    Point is, any rules and regulations would not assure the league that it will rid itself of bad management.
    why not go for euro set up?
    no cap limit, walang silipan, incompetent suckas gets their as$ relegated, then spend their miserable time at div 2 bankrupt no tv deals, no other way to earn money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
    Not surprising really. The PBA tried to ward off speculation of a team selling its franchise by comng up with a tall tale of Mikee Romero intending to become the league's 11th franchise. There's absolutely no way for the PBA to open its door to a 11th team. It will dilute the market share from 1/10 to 1/11 and will not be good for the existing PBA teams. Similarly, if ever they do open their minds to it, it won't be for an 11th team but for two teams to make an even numbered 12.

    Now the bigger question and let me bring this up once more: how will Mikee Romero run a PBA team when he doesn't have the money to run a team? Or is there a hidden hand that makes Romero a puppet and merely a figurehead here? That this hidden hand is actually the chief financier of the franchise? We'll find out how the trade deals go. But let me be blunt - Romero and MVP had a falling out with the Burger King franchise before so count out MVP as your possible suspect. Let's just say that there's absolutely no way for Romero to afford running a PBA team. Heck, he can't even afford to run his own ABL team without getting corporate sponsors from Tonyboy Cojuangco.

    Oops, did I just give the connection?
    "But let me be blunt - Romero and MVP had a falling out with the Burger King franchise before so count out MVP as your possible suspect."

    So now that the Powerade franchise was acquired by Mike Romero & as you seem to insinuate, Romero might be a puppet of the SMC group, how then will it affect Garry David & Jayvee Casio's stint with Gilas-2 national pool?

    Well, I hope there's no truth to that suspicion that Romero is a puppet of SMC & I also hope that Romero isn't as wicked as the SMC group!
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    ^If you had better reading comprehension you would have seen the elephant in the room already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    "But let me be blunt - Romero and MVP had a falling out with the Burger King franchise before so count out MVP as your possible suspect."

    So now that the Powerade franchise was acquired by Mike Romero & as you seem to insinuate, Romero might be a puppet of the SMC group, how then will it affect Garry David & Jayvee Casio's stint with Gilas-2 national pool?

    Well, I hope there's no truth to that suspicion that Romero is a puppet of SMC & I also hope that Romero isn't as wicked as the SMC group!
    I do not see Mikee as a puppet but he alone would say its payback time .... if you are in his position would you blame him on how he is feeling, he invited MVP for a joint venture in a project he conceptualized then all of a sudden he was left hanging in the air as MVP instead does not want a partnership but to own the project by himself with Mikee out of the picture, with that failed investment he almost lost a big chunk of his family's fortune due to the turn-around made by the MPIC group. If that's how you do business with your supposed friends like Mikee imagine how it is with business rivals like the SMC Group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ariel_muhlach View Post
    I do not see Mikee as a puppet but he alone would say its payback time .... if you are in his position would you blame him on how he is feeling, he invited MVP for a joint venture in a project he conceptualized then all of a sudden he was left hanging in the air as MVP instead does not want a partnership but to own the project by himself with Mikee out of the picture, with that failed investment he almost lost a big chunk of his family's fortune due to the turn-around made by the MPIC group. If that's how you do business with your supposed friends like Mikee imagine how it is with business rivals like the SMC Group.
    so again, it's more personal now...if/when romero finally grabs hold of the powerade franchise that will add one more team who has been alienated by MVP and thus might not share their players as long as he is head of the SBP.

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    I don't know about you, guys, but next season can be very exciting in terms of wheeling and dealing, especially that the Hari ng Padala is back in the league. Hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by capitantiago View Post
    I don't know about you, guys, but next season can be very exciting in terms of wheeling and dealing, especially that the Hari ng Padala is back in the league. Hahaha
    Who needs express delivery, when you can just ship it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ariel_muhlach View Post
    I do not see Mikee as a puppet but he alone would say its payback time .... if you are in his position would you blame him on how he is feeling, he invited MVP for a joint venture in a project he conceptualized then all of a sudden he was left hanging in the air as MVP instead does not want a partnership but to own the project by himself with Mikee out of the picture, with that failed investment he almost lost a big chunk of his family's fortune due to the turn-around made by the MPIC group. If that's how you do business with your supposed friends like Mikee imagine how it is with business rivals like the SMC Group.
    Let's see. Romero is an extremely competitive person but what can he do if he's not holding the purse strings? Romero is a tru-blue La Sallian (oxymoron ata, should be tru-green!) so everyone would expect him to keep Jvee Casio in his team. If he gets shipped out, who should we expect to be the recipient of the talented PG?

    Romero's grudge against MVP appears legitimate as he actually offered Manila North Harbor to RSA after sale talks bogged down between him and MVP. Apparently, MVP wanted 100% operating control but Romero wanted to run things. MVP is known to buy companies lock, stock and barrel so I don't blame him since this is corporate culture. And an astute businessman would know how decisions are being made by his partner. Romero knows MVP wants 100% control when the latter tied up with him - otherwise, that would make him dumb and clueless.

    We ask then: why did Romero go to RSA after? Simple - because he doesn't have the money to expand North Harbor. He needs either MVP or RSA to make it work. So no matter how passionate Romero may be in trying to run his team in the same success mold as his Harbor Center squad in the PBL was, at the end of the day, what his benefactor wants, his benefactor would get...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    "But let me be blunt - Romero and MVP had a falling out with the Burger King franchise before so count out MVP as your possible suspect."

    So now that the Powerade franchise was acquired by Mike Romero & as you seem to insinuate, Romero might be a puppet of the SMC group, how then will it affect Garry David & Jayvee Casio's stint with Gilas-2 national pool?

    Well, I hope there's no truth to that suspicion that Romero is a puppet of SMC & I also hope that Romero isn't as wicked as the SMC group!
    They'd be in hot water if they pull Casio and David out of the national team. They'll get criticized all over for this - so expect other scenarios to unfold like an unexpected injury for David here or a wedding date for Casio there - all to make sure they won't be around for the big dance. Or Romero putting his foot down and saying he's not comfortable of lending the two unlike his predecessor, Powerade.

    But then, I remain hopeful they'll be around. Rico Villanueva is with the SMC Group but we don't see him being pulled out. Let's see how it pans out. I'm not that optimistic however.

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    http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv...ains-uncertain

    After sale, status of Powerade Tigers coaches, players remains uncertain

    Rey Joble, InterAKTV · Tuesday, July 31, 2012 · 6:00 pm



    Management of Coca-Cola Bottlers Philippines, Inc. met with players and coaches of the Powerade Tigers Monday night to tell them about the PBA franchise’s sale to a firm headed by Mikee Romero.

    But according to coach Bo Perasol, team executive Ronnie Asuncion did not answer their questions about the status of their live contracts, except to say that it was part of the deal with Romero. Asuncion added that the team should just wait for the return of the businessman from the London Olympics, where he travelled to support shooter Brian Rosario as president of the Philippine National Shooting Association.

    Most members of the Tigers still have live contracts, except for Lordy Tugade, whose deal will expire in August.

    Superstar guard Gary David, who signed a maximum extension earlier this season, is hopeful that he will be part of the new squad.

    “Sana maganda na yung takbo under Mikee and maiwasan yung naging problema before,” said David, who was part of the Burger King team that Romero had been in talks to buy in 2009. After an agreement to purchase the squad, Romero had taken control of the squad, only for the deal to fall through, leaving him out of the picture.

    Earlier, Perasol blasted Coca-Cola management for the way it handled the sale of the franchise.

    “Wala silang malasakit sa amin,” said Perasol, adding that members of the team only heard about the sale after the PBA’s announcement. “Wala kaming kaalam-alam na ibinenta na pala yung team, hindi na muna kami sabihan, especially sa mga taong mayroon silang obligasyon.”

    Meanwhile, PBA commissioner Chito Salud has expressed confidence in Romero’s capability as a team owner.

    “I think Mikee is now more financially capable and ready to join the PBA,” said Salud.

    The sale, meanwhile, is not yet final, as it would require at least a two-thirds vote from the PBA Board of Governors for the deal to go through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    So we can say

    Tim's BMEG paycheck > Luigi, Louie, Leo, Aric and Charles Tiu combined
    Tim's paycheck is in the neighborhood of P1M a month.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
    ...MVP wanted 100% operating control but Romero wanted to run things. MVP is known to buy companies lock, stock and barrel so I don't blame him since this is corporate culture...
    Similar case why RSA and not MVP won over PAL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryotek View Post
    All-star cast at the sideline...that's the trend now in coaching!
    I think they also need to upgrade their players. Take Chris Ellis from the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    ^If you had better reading comprehension you would have seen the elephant in the room already.
    Sorry, I was not talking to U. That question was addressed to Jay P. Mercado & maybe to some posters who will not give me a sarcastic answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
    They'd be in hot water if they pull Casio and David out of the national team. They'll get criticized all over for this - so expect other scenarios to unfold like an unexpected injury for David here or a wedding date for Casio there - all to make sure they won't be around for the big dance. Or Romero putting his foot down and saying he's not comfortable of lending the two unlike his predecessor, Powerade.

    But then, I remain hopeful they'll be around. Rico Villanueva is with the SMC Group but we don't see him being pulled out. Let's see how it pans out. I'm not that optimistic however.
    "They'd be in hot water if they pull Casio and David out of the national team. They'll get criticized all over for this..."

    The same thing happened w/ SMC group when they refused to lend their players for the NT, yet those criticisms & ridicules fell to deaf dears. SMC was too stubborn & insensitive enough to listen to the clamor to lend their players for the NT. Would Mike Romero be the same?

    Well, I hope not.

    "But then, I remain hopeful they'll be around."

    Me too. I like to share your optimism sir. Like you, I would like that our current National training pool won't have to endure anymore obstacles or hitches na kapwa Filipino rin ang may kagagawan. In my humble opinion, those people or sectors who are not willing to help the national team should just remain still. Kahit wag na silang tumulong sa nat'l. team, wag na sana silang maging "obstacle" pa.
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    I see Alaska a winner in this years draft, 2nd pick over-all Chris Tiu then send the pick to Meralco for the 4th pick for either Hodge or Abueva plus considerations.... the considerations could be both heaven and paradise, a sweetheart deal that could mean survival in the league for another year?

    But if it was up to me and not the Alaska management, i would ask for Borboran and the 4th pick... but knowing the Alaska circumstances it would be cash + cash + cash and maybe the 4th pick in the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Bruiseter View Post
    Tim's paycheck is in the neighborhood of P1M a month.
    Same as Norman Black

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovejones View Post
    Same as Norman Black
    Coach must be saying mas malaki ang bayad kow kaysa sa sayow..

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