Lebanese FLB league 2011-2012

[tonysaade]

Yea Tony I know, but there very few left. you can count them on one hand. There are more graves then actual people, there are even more synagoes then Jews right now. but let's return to the basketball conversation. Who do you think have the best fans?

hehehe you're right , well sagesse .... i believe everyone here agree with me second comes riyadi and then all the others ....

[lebanese phoenix]

Yea Tony I know, but there very few left. you can count them on one hand. There are more graves then actual people, there are even more synagoes then Jews right now. but let's return to the basketball conversation. Who do you think have the best fans?

there used to be alot of lebanese jews living in wadi abou jamil in beirut,it is sad that circumstances made life difficult for them and that they had to leave,lebanese culture lost alot of its richness and sparkle bcs of that,hopefully someday,all lebanese around the world no matter their religion make it back to the land of their ancestors...the great phoenicians.

Anyways,as tony said sagesse has the largest fanbase wich is spread all over lebanon,second comes riyadi who's fanbase is largely located in beirut,
i think that all other fanbases come in a huge third: Champville,mouttahed have an okay fanbase.
on a side note i noticed that Bejjeh,the league's newcomers have very loyal and eccentric fanbase,their fans are filling the court in each home game and are cheering very high,it's a beautiful thing to see but i think it also has to do with the fact that most of the bejjeh fans are actually bejjeh locals, from the town "bejjeh" so in a way they're cheering for their hometown,i also heard that bejjeh municipality is doing great work in advertising the games by sending sms messages to all the locals before each game

[gazara]

in term of Fans :

1-Sagesse Beirut Come First for sure ,they have the largest fanbase in Lebanon

2-Al Riyadi Beirut

3-Champville Maristes

4-Anibal Zahle ,when you play in Zahle all the Games are Full House

6-Mouttahed Tripoli Also in Tripoli all the Games are full house

7-Antranik

8-Bejjeh And Byblos

9-Chabab

10-Hoops Unfortunatly to know that this team belongs to an academy and not to a Region or a political Side or a Religion

Teams Fans have many Points r Terms :

1-Region
2-Political Side
3-Religion

for Example i am sure if Sagesse didn t arrive to the Finals then the Fans will support Champville ,also for Mouttahed they will support Riyadi (the Same Religion)

[mavrick_h]

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for Example i am sure if Sagesse didn t arrive to the Finals then the Fans will support Champville ,also for Mouttahed they will support Riyadi (the Same Religion)

it doesn't count for all gazara. maybe some of them.

But I strongly against this way of thinking as we're not playing religion here, it's called basketball. It would be best for all if they keep everything where it belongs. Religion can stay in the religious places and basketball in the basketball courts.

Same imply for everything in here.

[leb-basket]

it doesn't count for all gazara. maybe some of them.

But I strongly against this way of thinking as we're not playing religion here, it's called basketball. It would be best for all if they keep everything where it belongs. Religion can stay in the religious places and basketball in the basketball courts.

Same imply for everything in here.

100% right but unfortunately it's true ...

[mavrick_h]

100% right but unfortunately it's true ...

It should be the region only.

We are a special case in the world, unfortunately !

[gazara]

yes Mavrik You are Right 100% ,but our Fans are always thinking like This !

let s Return to the League Chabab Zahle WithDraw from The League due to Bad Performance and their Coach also decide to Stop Coaching the team !!
that s bad ,but unfortunatly i am sure that they will not Win any any Game !!!
they are really away from all the others teams in the League ,we have 9 Teams very good but Chabab Are Really Bad they only have foreigners ! and that s nothing in our League

[gazara]

Bank Med Lebanese League Season 2011-2012

Round 8:

Saturday November 19:

Riyadi v/s Mouttahed 4h00PM (Manara) [Live on LBC I & Europe / Main Game]

Antranik v/s Byblos 4h00PM (Demerdjian Center) [Live on LBC I & Europe / Duplex]

Hoops v/s Bejje 4h00PM (Murr Stadium) [Live on LBC I & Europe / Duplex]

Sunday November 20:

Sagesse v/s Champville 6h00PM (Ghazir Stadium) [Live on LBC I & Europe]

[gazara]

Big Game Today ,Riyadi Vs Mouttahed ,hope that Mouttahed will return to the Right Track , i know their mission is Really Hard ,winning Against Riyadi in Manara ,but last they took Riyadi into Trouble ,in that game in manara and they could won it ,but unfortunatly Jean Abdel Nour had a buzzer Beater !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=FB03fbpeCpU

Also Antranik-Byblos Would be very interesting ,i expect a Close Game and Antranik will finish it !

about Hoops-Bejje Also i expect a close Game ,but Bejje will finish it due to their Good Performance these Days ,they are playing very well !! (Locals + Imports)

[Khalid80]

LBC - yes. Al-Manar - no.

And thanks for the link, khalid.

Edit: What I mean is that LBC is a part of any basic cable package. But you can watch Al-Manar online, It's not blocked or anything. Actually back in the 80's, before cable, The Lebanese and Jordanian channels were super-popular here, I was young but I can still remember watching WWF and Football there.

Cheers Roey!

OT: I remember there was a tv station in Southern Lebanon called Middle East Television (it used to have 3 green triangles...representing the Lebanese cedar tree).. I remember they were affiliated with the Southern Lebanese Army.. They used to broadcast in English but used to have subtitles in both Arabic and Hebrew.
I used to watch WWF as well as NBA games (They used to show live games which was awesome!!) on that channel.

And I have another question: are the teams affiliated with relligous and politcal groups like Al-Ahed with Hizbullah in football? is it the same in basketball?

Unfortunately many of them are but that's mainly because these religious and political groups fund these basketball teams.
Riyadi for example has the majority of its' supporters being Muslim Sunni's who support the Future coalition (Hariri family)

but let's return to the basketball conversation. Who do you think have the best fans?

I respectfully disagree with the other members here regarding Sagesse having the largest basketball fan base in Lebanon and would say that Riyadi has the largest fan base in Lebanon and i'm not saying this because I support Riyadi but for the following...

- Sagesse at one point had the largest basketball fan base in Lebanon during the late 90's early 2000's when they dominated the basketball scene in Lebanon and were under President Choueiry (RIP) who really helped Sagesse become the best team not only in the region but all of Asia. There was a basketball fever back then and everyone used to follow and talk basketball.

After Choueiry (RIP) left basketball and stopped supporting Sagesse the basketball scene really toned down and there were many fans (not the basketball die hard fans) who stopped following basketball and were no longer supporting Sagesse. Back then Sagesse had a very diverse fan base since there were many Muslims who used to support Sagesse.

- Riyadi on the other hand started winning the Lebanese Championship once again and since their fan base is mostly made up of Muslim Sunnis it can be said that the majority of the Sunni population in Lebanon are Riyadi fans while those living in North Lebanon are Mouttahed fans (even though many of them also support Riyadi)... So basically my arguement would be that since there are only 2 Muslim teams playing in the Lebanese League the majority of the Muslim Sunni Population would be supporting Riyadi and thus they would be having the largest fan base in Lebanon (I hate using religion as an excuse and example to support this but unfortunately this is the case in Lebanon)

[Lebanese 2 - 1 S.Korea]

Sagesse dont have big fanbase. Its all political and religious.First of all, Christians while get 50 % in parliament they are not 50 % of population.They are more like 30 % nowadays.Same percentage as Sunni.
And from that 30 %, You have many armenians who cheer for Antranik/Homentmen. Then you have division between other christians themselves ( ones who cheer for champville, and others for sagesse).

Whereas Riyadi enjoys the support of more then 75 % of sunni population in lebanon. Riyadi has more support then Sagesse all over lebanon.
Sagesse is turning into little club anyway. I would say majority of christians today cheer for champville more then sagesse.


Now moving onto the league. Did chaba zahle really withdraw? That sounds stupid descision.

[MALEK]

Sagesse dont have big fanbase. Its all political and religious.First of all, Christians while get 50 % in parliament they are not 50 % of population.They are more like 30 % nowadays.Same percentage as Sunni.
And from that 30 %, You have many armenians who cheer for Antranik/Homentmen. Then you have division between other christians themselves ( ones who cheer for champville, and others for sagesse).

Whereas Riyadi enjoys the support of more then 75 % of sunni population in lebanon. Riyadi has more support then Sagesse all over lebanon.
Sagesse is turning into little club anyway. I would say majority of christians today cheer for champville more then sagesse.


Now moving onto the league. Did chaba zahle really withdraw? That sounds stupid descision.

After all what you said do you really care about the league?!!!!

[Lebanese 2 - 1 S.Korea]

okey, lets drop the discussion for good. whose more popular and whose not. who cheers what.

riyadi are putting on a show vs moutahed with there great fast breaks.

spence is awesome really.

I am huge fan of bassel bawji, he will become sthg big.

In one guarter, dwelick spencer

18 points 4 assists 5 rebounds.

this is why I like riyadi more then champville. they play like a team, whereas champville play so much with one man ( fadi el khatib).

still in third quarter, riyadi with 32 assists and 100 points!



Dwlick spencer 35 points 7 rebounds 8 assists.

[Gio BD]

Sagesse dont have big fanbase. Its all political and religious.First of all, Christians while get 50 % in parliament they are not 50 % of population.They are more like 30 % nowadays.Same percentage as Sunni.
And from that 30 %, You have many armenians who cheer for Antranik/Homentmen. Then you have division between other christians themselves ( ones who cheer for champville, and others for sagesse).

Whereas Riyadi enjoys the support of more then 75 % of sunni population in lebanon. Riyadi has more support then Sagesse all over lebanon.
Sagesse is turning into little club anyway. I would say majority of christians today cheer for champville more then sagesse.


Now moving onto the league. Did chaba zahle really withdraw? That sounds stupid descision.

I suggest that you don't talk politics or religion.

There are 5 million Lebanese people in Brazil. Over 90% of them are Christians. In most countries in the world a person who is a citizen of a country can vote in that's country's elections even when outside its soil, hence French people lining up in front of the French embassy in Lebanon to take part in French elections. This is not the case with Lebanon, so if you object that 50% of the parliament is Christian then we object that Lebanese people outside Lebnanon cannot vote in Lebanese elections.

Moreover Christians in Lebanon make up more than 30% of the population.

[lebanese phoenix]

I suggest that you don't talk politics or religion.

There are 5 million Lebanese people in Brazil. Over 90% of them are Christians. In most countries in the world a person who is a citizen of a country can vote in that's country's elections even when outside its soil, hence French people lining up in front of the French embassy in Lebanon to take part in French elections. This is not the case with Lebanon, so if you object that 50% of the parliament is Christian then we object that Lebanese people outside Lebnanon cannot vote in Lebanese elections.

Moreover Christians in Lebanon make up more than 30% of the population.

guys pls,you're wayyy off topic,who cars wether we're christian or sunni or whatever,we're lebanese,nothing more.
As for you 2-1,you seem like another version of "bury pls" and "please dont ban me",all you care about is politics,if you want co post here,keep in mind that this is an international forum,no need to get into politics here,plus,would it bother you not to post 7 consecutive posts pls
you're new here,so i'll suppose that you dont know about it,but there is an edit button,so instead of posting 100 consecutive posts,just press edit whenever you want to comment and compress all what you want to say in a single post.

[Lebanese 2 - 1 S.Korea]

guys pls,you're wayyy off topic,who cars wether we're christian or sunni or whatever,we're lebanese,nothing more.
As for you 2-1,you seem like another version of "bury pls" and "please dont ban me",all you care about is politics,if you want co post here,keep in mind that this is an international forum,no need to get into politics here,plus,would it bother you not to post 7 consecutive posts pls
you're new here,so i'll suppose that you dont know about it,but there is an edit button,so instead of posting 100 consecutive posts,just press edit whenever you want to comment and compress all what you want to say in a single post.

I was updating the game, as for the politics part there was discussion going on who is more popular team. we all know LF supports saggesse, fpm support champville, safadi supports mutahad, FM suports riyadi, etc etc.
I wont reply to gio bd rubbish post.

[lebanese phoenix]

I respectfully disagree with the other members here regarding Sagesse having the largest basketball fan base in Lebanon and would say that Riyadi has the largest fan base in Lebanon and i'm not saying this because I support Riyadi but for the following

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i beg to differ khalid,if you watched riyadi playing today,you'll have noticed that the stadium was completly empty,while sagesse's home games are always full houses
you can check the game between sagesse and champville tommorow,you'll also notice that the stadium is filled.

anyways,i'd also like to say that about sagesse's fanbase: it's very very diverse,i have all kinds of friends of all religions who are sagesse fans and who watch every single game,some of them coming to ghazir all the way from the koora region and beirut...

whereas riyadi's fanbase,to my knowledge is predominantly located in beirut.

[Lebanese 2 - 1 S.Korea]

i beg to differ khalid,if you watched riyadi playing today,you'll have noticed that the stadium was completly empty,while sagesse's home games are always full houses
you can check the game between sagesse and champville tommorow,you'll also notice that the stadium is filled.

anyways,i'd also like to say that about sagesse's fanbase: it's very very diverse,i have all kinds of friends of all religions who are sagesse fans and who watch every single game,some of them coming to ghazir all the way from the koora region and beirut...

whereas riyadi's fanbase,to my knowledge is predominantly located in beirut.

Riyadi has huge fanbase in saida which is in south.Sagesse popularity dropped alot, Alot of people who were sagesse fans are now champville fans.
The stadium was empty today, because result was known. Riyadi fans were expecting to blow out mutahhad easily.

[lebanese phoenix]

I was updating the game, as for the politics part there was discussion going on who is more popular team. we all know LF supports saggesse, fpm support champville, safadi supports mutahad, FM suports riyadi, etc etc.
I wont reply to gio bd rubbish post.

pls do update the game under one post using the edit option

about LF supporting sagesse and fpm supporting champville,that's completly untrue,i do support sagesse and am noway near being LF,i also support champville although am also an anti fpm
i was supporting sagesse since always while i support champville bcs i just love el Khatib and ghassan.
you should know that in sagesse games,you can find alot of fpm sympathizers sitting with sagesse fans and the opposite is true where me and alot of my LF friends are supporting champville.

about riyadi i also know alot of hezbollah and amal sympathisers who go and support riyadi in manara,so pls stop labeling teams as political societies,that''s what's killing our game.

[eliooo93]

Sagesse dont have big fanbase. Its all political and religious.First of all, Christians while get 50 % in parliament they are not 50 % of population.They are more like 30 % nowadays.Same percentage as Sunni.
And from that 30 %, You have many armenians who cheer for Antranik/Homentmen. Then you have division between other christians themselves ( ones who cheer for champville, and others for sagesse).

Whereas Riyadi enjoys the support of more then 75 % of sunni population in lebanon. Riyadi has more support then Sagesse all over lebanon.
Sagesse is turning into little club anyway. I would say majority of christians today cheer for champville more then sagesse.


Now moving onto the league. Did chaba zahle really withdraw? That sounds stupid descision.

Although i hate talking about this, u should get your facts right lol.. Sagesse have the largest fanbase in lebanon + christians not only represent more than 30% of the population of lebanon but it only represents the majority of lebanese around the world (take my example, i'm a christian living abroad but still am a big sagesse fans) So if you're based on the religion factor, this is a poor argument.. I apologize for this comment.. back to the toppic.