What about Giannakis?
He is looking for a job.
President od Serbian basketball union Dragan Djilas is one of the most influencal persons in Serbia...
Wouldnt be the first time that Pesic or Obradovic change their stetements...
I dont have any doubt that Djilas is able to ''find'' appropriate coach...
We could have been top 3 team this eurobasket,if he just swallowed his ego and invited Rakocevic and Milicic,with some other players.He didn't speak with any of the candidates before he made his list,so we had 3 big guys canceling.He's a stubborn person,who puts himself in front of Serbias interests.Not to mention the influence that Raznatovic has on him.Plus we played like crap.Originally Posted by Legend
I would like Kari Pesic,if not him than some younger coach.No rush to make the decision.
I don't agree, Rakocevic and Milicic are not the issue because without both of them Serbia was 2nd and 4th in the prior two championships. Yes, I agree that Milicic would be huge upgrade over Perovic & Marjanovic but what exactly should have Ivkovic done when Milicic wouldn't answer any of his phone calls? As for Rakocevic, his not needed. Three years ago KSS and Ivkovic decided it was time to say good bye to the last Yugo generation and move on with the new Serbian generation. Now I ask you why would you like to ruin the new generation with a player such as Rakocevic?
The disappointment of this years EURO is purely do to the players being bench warmers the entire last season. Tepic, Keselj, Marjanovic and Perovic were full time bench warmers last season. Teodosic had a poor season, Bjelica poor season + injury, Krstic ok season, Savanovic very good season, Macvan bench warmer since moved to Maccabi, Paunic, Rasic and Markovic so-so seasons. Even the great Velickovic is a bench warmer. So tell me how in the world could these players have competed at highest level when they barely had any game time during last season?
As for Ivkovic being stubborn and putting himself before the NT is the most ridiculous thing i heard so far. He is working for FREE. How is the putting himself before the NT? He put Serbian basketball back on the map after 7 years of misery. His 2-2 record against the Spain's golden generation, 1 silver medal and 1 4th place speaks volume. One bad summer cannot change what Ivkovic has achieved with the new generation of Serbian NT.
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So if they are bench warmers,why the hell are they in the NT?We are the only NT that doesn't want to play with it's best players,and instead relies on mediocres and bench warmers.This competition was much stronger than eurobasket 2009,and yes we needed Rakocevic,Milicic,Jaric,maybe even Radmanovic and Pavlovic (if he wants to play).Ivkovic didn't follow the players during the season,he didn't speak with the possible candidates as he was busy with his club.And then suprise,some of them are injured,some of them don't want to play.
As for Rakocevic and Milicic,Ivkovic said and i quote "Rakocevic is without a contract and Milicic plays in Minnesota".He doesn't work for free (don't know where you got that),and NT got him a huge contract with Oly.As you maybe remember,before 2008 he was without a job for a couple of years.
He promised us Olympics,he failed.Thank you for the silver in 2009 and goodbye.
Tell me something Darihno. Did the team selection bother you at the 09 Euro an 10 WC? Did Ivkovic bother you as well?
Jaric - has good and bad days but no where the form of 9 years ago
Rakocevic - Ball-hog, bad team player
Stojakovic - Can barely walk let alone run, horrible defender
Radmanovic - haha, that guy is a bench warmer for a mid table team
Pavlovic - other then defence the guy is useless (Serbia has plethora of these types) + he has no team/hasn't played in a while
If you think those are Serbia's best players well I am glad Serbian Federation chose Ivkovic as the NT coach
Milicic - only player that deserves to play for the NT if he grows up a bit
This years team was not on par with the last years but they still advanced from the toughest group and they only got dominated in 1 game against Spain. The game against Russia without Rasic and Tepic was still winnable which to me says that the potential of this team is huge but only if they start working harder and not being bench warmers at their clubs.
Sure the goal of playing in London 2012 was not met but much more positives have come up from the Ivkovic's project. Two great tournament finishes and the most important one is that the foundation for the future of NT is set in place. The current generation still averages in 23-24yr range + with the addition of few of the youth players that are coming up the ranks this team can easily last till 2020 Olympics.
Just for that I think Ivkovic needs to remain as the coach of the NT for 1 more Olympic cycle, of course if his body permits him as by 2016 he will be 72 yrs. old.
Amen! With one correction - Peja is not so bad defender, but he is also a great rebounder, and I agree he can barely walk, which is to bad, injuries prevented him for having even greater career (look at Nowitzki, they're the sam age). But that's a different story.Tell me something Darihno. Did the team selection bother you at the 09 Euro an 10 WC? Did Ivkovic bother you as well?
Jaric - has good and bad days but no where the form of 9 years ago
Rakocevic - Ball-hog, bad team player
Stojakovic - Can barely walk let alone run, horrible defender
Radmanovic - haha, that guy is a bench warmer for a mid table team
Pavlovic - other then defence the guy is useless (Serbia has plethora of these types) + he has no team/hasn't played in a while
If you think those are Serbia's best players well I am glad Serbian Federation chose Ivkovic as the NT coach
Milicic - only player that deserves to play for the NT if he grows up a bit
This years team was not on par with the last years but they still advanced from the toughest group and they only got dominated in 1 game against Spain. The game against Russia without Rasic and Tepic was still winnable which to me says that the potential of this team is huge but only if they start working harder and not being bench warmers at their clubs.
Sure the goal of playing in London 2012 was not met but much more positives have come up from the Ivkovic's project. Two great tournament finishes and the most important one is that the foundation for the future of NT is set in place. The current generation still averages in 23-24yr range + with the addition of few of the youth players that are coming up the ranks this team can easily last till 2020 Olympics.
Just for that I think Ivkovic needs to remain as the coach of the NT for 1 more Olympic cycle, of course if his body permits him as by 2016 he will be 72 yrs. old.
I agree, the only player who should be in this team is Milicic, and hopefully he'll be in it in the time to come. I'm only puzzled a bit why Erceg wasn't invited - we could use him much more than poor Bobi Marjanovic.
Hats down to Ivkovic for everything he did, he should stays. That is, if he himself wants to stay.
Jaric now is still better than Markovic,Rasic or Paunic
Rakocevic ball-hog?Than what are Teodosic or Savanovic?Best scorer in euroleague,our only guard who can score 20 pts every game.
Radmanovic-better to be bench warmer in NBA than average european club.
Pavlovic useless?It shows how much you know.Still one class above our others sf's.
And what basic are you talking about?Did you watch any game?At least half of players showed that they don't have the quality for the NT.
We played awful,and Ivkovic comes out and says "I don't see where my reasponsability is and i wouldn't change anything".He's full of arrogance,and so are the players.
And i don't know how much time i needed to repeat that this competition was much stronger than the one in 2009 or 2010.
Your so called 20ppg player Rakocevic is currently without a team and is training with Crvena Zvezda. Why do you think the clubs aren't lining up for him?
Pavlovic a level above Bjelica
In what way was it stronger? Turkey & Germany didn't get out of the group, Croatia barely won any games, Lithuania losing in Qtrs, Serbia losing in Qtrs, Slovenia losing in Qtrs, Greece losing in Qtrs. Guess what all the teams above have in common, that's right they were all below par comparing them from last WC so I can't see how this was the strongest Euro every. Championship in which 1 team dominates isn't a strong championship.And i don't know how much time i needed to repeat that this competition was much stronger than the one in 2009 or 2010.
This one was definitely stronger, just take a look at the list of the key players were missing last year (including non European teams), now lot of them came back.
And Turkey's, Germans (with Dirk and Kaman, who missed 2009 and 2010) failure just shows how strong and competitive it was or Serbia's loss vs Russia with Kirilenko and Khryapa, who both missed 2010, also wasn't an accident.
Only these names mentioned adds lot of quality to the tournament, not mentioning such as Pau Gasol, Calderon, without whom Spain didn't even made to it semis last year, with loss vs Serbia, now they demolished them as revenge by some 20+...
Eurobasket 2011 was definitely more spectacular, it had more 'names' present, but some teams were weaker without a doubt. Greece, Lithuania, Slovenia and Serbia could have been stronger. And we are not talking about some low level teams, but serious medal contenders (Spain would be no1 candidate in that case, also).
About Serbia, I'm not gonna talk about some players who already proven themselves as bluffs or unhealthy for the team, rather about ones that were with this team from the start. Veličković and Raduljica/Raković (also from the preliminary roster/had to quit because of private problems) would have been better solution than Mačvan/Marjanović. We needed better rebounding, some muscle and pace inside.
I'm very anxious about next season, to see how some guys will fare, especially those with great potential who can easily join this NT in the near future - Cvetković, Nedović, Milutinović, Lučić, Bogdanović, Birčević... If I forgot somebody, feel free to add and discuss.
I won't slur on Russia's victory, but Serbia was two men down in the middle of the tournament and also missing some key players inside. I mean, we can go on like this forever.
I know it, but that's not about who was better in one particular game, but about quality, which added Kirilenko and Khryapa to Russian NT with their presence this year. They brought them to totally another level.
And about Lithuania, we could have been stronger of course, but we wasn't weaker than last year also, just lack of some things prevented us to get higher
Who? Police, maybe?I know it, but that's not about who was better in one particular game, but about quality, which added Kirilenko and Khryapa to Russian NT with their presence this year. They brought them to totally another level.
And about Lithuania, we could have been stronger of course, but we wasn't weaker than last year also, just lack of some things prevented us to get higher
Help of refereesWho? Police, maybe?
Not sure how to put it ,but i always admired ex Yugoslavian basketball.
Being probably older generation to some of you here,i have lost a count of how many times we have been done since 80 in club and NT level by your teams.
So many painful memories.
And after last year's bronze medal game,which we won by a fluke i think,i considered Serbs gold medal contenders,no less.
But i guess you had done us a favour again.
You should had done so much better this year.
And the last thing i have to say - Lith vs Serb was the best game of the tournament for me.After that ,i had a false positive that we could win the whole damn thing.
2 years is a big time span in basketball terms.
You have enough time to get things sorted
Absolutely, as much as I hate the outcome of that game, 190 points are 190 points...
Serbia's games against Lithuania and France, for me were the most interesting to watch.
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