Sorry for what I have saidOriginally Posted by mavrick_h
you're kidding right ? safety seriously ? are we in a kind of war that the people of Lebanon doesn't know ?
Lebanon didn't lost anything. the FLB gave it away as a trade for AC 2013.
i don't know what have you heard but please stop watching the wrong tv stations. thanksWish your country good luck in 2013
I totally understand the reactions. Same thing will happen if our national team faces Japan NT
That is a war between China and U.S., haha. Actually the fans did nothing, only a fight between the young men. BTW, Vice President Joe Biden was watching the game and got totally embarrassed.........Man I was talking about the fans in China. I don't know if you are aware of these incidents that happened there...
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Don't worry for us.Nobody doubts that Iran, individually, were the best team there, but their arrogant coach was kinda stupid to even think that Jordan is a walk by, eventhough that all iran's games against Jordan were close, remember semi finals 2009? jones cup 2011?
I also noticed they just relied on Haddadi, although they don't have to, when they have best players on all positions, and despite that their systems was just around Haddadi who doesn't impress me basketball wise, unlike Arsalan Samad and Afagh, those guys were limited big time this year... Gob job by matic
Meanwhile, China year by year, will reach a point where they might fail to even make it to semis, but they r lucky to host Fiba Asia everytime, so this is doing it for them instead, especially that Wang zhizhi and Liu Wei will not play forever and i don't see any real talents coming out there to fill the gap.
We are still the only asian team who enter the second round in WC 2010.
And we are still dominating the ABC U19 with a lot young talent.
You said it right Sabz, I think Iran got overconfident. Honestly speaking aside from my team
Btw, congratulations to China they played just enough to win this tournament.
No problem. Mei shi
what this has to do with what i said? We all know how did u enter the second round so give me a break
And oh yes, China has been dominating the youth tournaments with overraged players, and between where are those young players? i did not see anyone of them in the senior team except for Guo Ailun last year and he isn't that GREAT either.
Proud to be Lebanese
oh ok no i didn't that doesn't look good lolMan I was talking about the fans in China
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i rarely surf around in the forum (if it was posted here) so thanks for the info
yup same to youSorry for what I have said
how did we enter the second round?what this has to do with what i said? We all know how did u enter the second round so give me a break
And oh yes, China has been dominating the youth tournaments with overraged players, and between where are those young players? i did not see anyone of them in the senior team except for Guo Ailun last year and he isn't that GREAT either.
China 81-89 Greece
China 83-73 Cote d'ivoire
China 76-84 Puerto Rico
China 80-89 Russian
China 40-87 Turkey (Bob play 5 babys because we had already qualified)
China 67-78 Lithuania
of course you can keep worrying for us. There is a Chinese saying 'The emperor no worry, eunuch worry'. it's your freedom.
PS Guo Ailun is not even close to the young talents who I mention.
I think Dany is trying to say that China was lucky to get into the second round of the 2010 World Championships since China, Puerto Rico and Cote D'Ivoire were all tied with 1 win and 4 losses but China had a better goal average and that's why they qualified.
The young talents you are talking about are Wang Zhelin, Li Muhao and Zhou Qi?
I never answered this hypothetical question so this is my take on it.
Had Iran not lost to Jordan and qualified to the finals and met with China I don't believe the outcome would have been much different to the Jordan-China game... It would have been a very close game and either team could have won.
I don't think Iran would have been able to repeat their dominant performance against China 2 years earlier...
Reasons (in my opinion):
- I think China were better prepared to face Iran this time around even though their results in the previous rounds showed otherwise.
- China would have been more focused and wanted to get back at Iran for their loss 2 years ago.
Nobody doubts that Iran, individually, were the best team there, but their arrogant coach was kinda stupid to even think that Jordan is a walk by, eventhough that all iran's games against Jordan were close, remember semi finals 2009? jones cup 2011?
I also noticed they just relied on Haddadi, although they don't have to, when they have best players on all positions, and despite that their systems was just around Haddadi who doesn't impress me basketball wise, unlike Arsalan Samad and Afagh, those guys were limited big time this year... Gob job by matic
Meanwhile, China year by year, will reach a point where they might fail to even make it to semis, but they r lucky to host Fiba Asia everytime, so this is doing it for them instead, especially that Wang zhizhi and Liu Wei will not play forever and i don't see any real talents coming out there to fill the gap.
there are some talents already. in a China U20(or B-team) now. "u do not see" thats your problem.
iran lost to jordan by 4, jordan lost to china by 1.
they are all close. this games would be decided by details. and its hard to predict.
yi jianlian still has 8 years in him at least. so china will always contend with him.if they ever produce another talent beside, they will keep to dominate 4ever
i pick China would win. I felt Iran was just not the same team from 2yrs ago.
That's it !!!
For their arragont,Frankly,the big margin made in preliminary group by Iran NT makes some illusion that they are "USA Dream team" in Asia
Actually ,they are way to reach that Position in Asia .Only China who did ever reached that Position in Asia(win their opponent 30+ per game in AC).
Bear in mind ,you should modest and humble ,even you got "Dream team" faculty ,not only in Asia ,but everywhere and every field.
why Iran NT lost?no ,not by the Jordanese,not the Chinese .
but the arrogant and the big margin in the group game killed them
Looking back to 2yrs ago,China NT do the same as Iran NT do now,meanwhile the Iran NT is a challenger,put themselves at a position of challenger
just for fan
or else ,any hypothetical is nonsense.
just look through the history in formal game ,the China NT is not so bad when the met European NT who are 5-8 position in Euro Game,the performance is 3w and 3L,and also If the all players available,according to WC 2010,also The China NT played not so bad when they counter Serbia ,Russia and even Lithuvia.
I really have no idea someone here without a basis by saying undoutbtly "a neutral place or other place the Iran NT would win"
most likely the host will win.
Coach Vaselin Matic, arrogant & stupid? talk about arrogance, aren't some lebanese basketball fans arrogant & stupid also? I hope you're not one of them.Nobody doubts that Iran, individually, were the best team there, but their arrogant coach was kinda stupid to even think that Jordan is a walk by, eventhough that all iran's games against Jordan were close, remember semi finals 2009? jones cup 2011?
I also noticed they just relied on Haddadi, although they don't have to, when they have best players on all positions, and despite that their systems was just around Haddadi who doesn't impress me basketball wise, unlike Arsalan Samad and Afagh, those guys were limited big time this year... Gob job by matic
Meanwhile, China year by year, will reach a point where they might fail to even make it to semis, but they r lucky to host Fiba Asia everytime, so this is doing it for them instead, especially that Wang zhizhi and Liu Wei will not play forever and i don't see any real talents coming out there to fill the gap.
Talk about China being lucky as the host, weren't Lebanon also got lucky that Qatar was stripped of it's 5 players, boosting Lebanon's chances of making it 2 d quarterfinals? What if Qatar played w/ a complete line up? What was the chance of Lebanon beating qatar in the 2nd round of the elimination 2 salvage the last quarterfinals slot in it's group? 50-50%? In the 3 friendly games Qatar & Lebanon played prior 2 Wuhan, Lebanon beat Qatar twice, both being close games. Qatar however got back at Lebanon in d 3rd encounter winning by 15 pts. So had Qatar & Lebanon squared off in Wuhan, w/ Qatar playing w/ a full roster, it would have been a toss up. Had Lebanon lost, then d Lebanese would have been relegated to the battle for 9th place.
Imagine the humiliation!
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