After last night's game, I can't possibly see how Panathinaikos can be eliminated.
MTA was a real dissapointment, much much worst than last year and unless the Greens throw the series hard, there is no way for them to qualify.
Panathinaikos has better players, better coach, more experience, tougher mentality and ofc the home court advantage. This year's MTA simply cannot win a series vs them.
PAO had it's ups and downs during regular season but as usual Obradovic and his players seem to deliver right when it matters.
On a side note, the lack of interest for this year's Euroleague is really dissapointing. Last year the thread of the series PAO vs Barca I think ended with more than 50 pages and this year a series between the two most successful teams in Euroleague history after game 1 merely reached 3 pages. Sad panda
Ιt was just the first game, and the series will last for days.
After the end of games we will write more. Now everything we say is to early. MTA is still alive and I have a huge respect for them. They are a traditional power house in basketball.
They are just unlucky because they don't have a strong competitive League so they can't be really prepared for the big games in Europe.
At list here in Greece we have Olympiacos to practice.
And something to dream on...
Panathinaikos arena.
just for fun.
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The Greens will lose the series only if they commit suicide -not likely. As i was saying, they have a better roster than MTA and as long as they keep on being serious, they'll eliminate them rather easily. The weakest aspect of Maccabi's performance was their defence. They seemed not only disorganized but also tired -lacking of energy. Perhaps the participation in AL was a big mistake. The tourist Farmaar, mothballed Papaloukas and the low budget front line were some more. Something seemed to be wrong in this year's design of the team and this is the consquence. Anyway, the next game will be more interesting, because it's their last chance to perform the miracle.
Originally Posted by Joško Poljak Fan
Who are you to judge?
Diamantidis is not nearly 33. he has not even turned 32 yet. Born May 6th 1980 if i'm not mistaken
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wipe your ass with a duckling today!
relax everybody
PAO doesnt finish this season
whoever wants to bet i am in
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I hope u r right.
But due to economic crises, because of the 40% tax and after the President's announcement that he will leave Pana, I am afraid that we are reaching the end of our empire.
And I doubt that Pana will find another rich president with the same financial power and love for the team.
Euroleague doesn't help as well the teams. All they give is just one lousy million euro which is not enough to pay not even the coach of the team.
Last year Pana had 1.000.000 euro income from Euroleague, plus 3 mil from TV and just 2.1 from tickets. (according Pao)
With so little income, NO ONE is gonna see Pana as an opportunity to invest in basketball team.
I know we can't be NBA or championsleague, but Euroleague is giving peanuts to the teams.
Euroleague has to increase the money for the euroleague teams.
In fact pao only got 1 mio € as a champ. If I am not mistaken, only final 4 teams get some financial compensation from euroleague... (the next 4 might get some, but those litteraly were peanuts 2-3 season ago if I remember correctly). Compared to Fiba's days when even Olimpija got over half of million from euroleague TV rights... being one of the main reasons, the clubs revolted, asking for a bigger share from Fiba in the end as we see they actually had to settle for even less than that.
After last year's Siena - Olympiakos, I decided I'll never write off a single team in quarterfinals ever again. This goes the same for Maccabi, although Pao is obviously always switching to noticably higher gear at this stage of competition.
Sh!t happens.
After praises to Blatt for figuring out the need to play with at least one natural PG ( Ohayon, Papa) on the floor , this time Blatt started to improvise from the beginning starting with Burstein . In my book Blatt is a "system coach", not a "master of improvisations" like Gershon was, so like any of Blatt latest improvisations ,this one backfired with 18 TOs & embarrassing loss.
Hopefully Blatt won't make the same mistake twice & will play along his system lines. MTA maybe won't win the second game, but at least it would save us from watching Langford one-on-one against all Pao defense.
Keys for MTA win in the second game: PAO 3PFG% <33%, MTA Assists >12.
Keys for MTA: Cross half-court without turnover.
11th Commandment: You shall not say Maccabi is a mediocre team!
watching at this forum ,mta fans except me, has all a better opinion of mta's values, much bigger than reality(imho)
every other fan is ready to condamn, or anyway to realistically consider the fact and reality of them team.
i'm impressed mta fans consider this roster as a strong roster. i'm impressed mta fan consider the mta way of play, a logic and smart way of play with this players.
a great coach is a coach who built the best possible roster to play his favourite basketball. blatt totally failed it, just failing all summer market . after a so wrong market , he didnt change his basketball. he didnt consider the roster he have, but the roster he would have. this team actually should play a very different basketball. should give space to many shooters we have, so we'd need to work inside to give shooters better chance from outside. no, he is always searching for the paints. mta doesnt move the ball. mta doesnt alternate arch and paint. mta basket is nothing. is the perfect example of the worse possibile basket,because u cant play certain basket ,having no players to play that basketball.
also, he is considering ohayon (a pg who doesnt know that in this sport there is a basket) an el level player. he builted a team with just one c who even is sofo, a c that u can trust on for some thing, and u cant for many others. he wanted papa, he added farmar altought everybody knews he had to came back. finally,he added mallet who is a scorer,not a base. so,i mean, he made many many errors. again, only chance we have tonight, is to play a crazy basketball.a basketball that is far from the static basket we play. actual mta basket is the easiest basket for obradovic to defend. playing again blatt's basket, it will mean my prediction will come true(3-0, 20 point av.). mta fans shouldnt forget we are here because cantu failed last shot with barca . so we are here because of one centimeter preferred us instead of cantu!
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I read the rumor that Maccabi is going to get rid of Sofo after Summer. This rumor (according to the Greek media) has initially appeared on http://www.sport5.co.il/ (Unfortunately, Jewish are not Greek to me so I can't confirm it)
Strange timing imo. I don't believe that news like this will help Sofo to be more effective or passionate at the next crucial games. Can any Maccabi fan give some more info about this matter?
Who are you to judge?
Key for MTA
Keys for MTA: Cross half-court without turnover.
Starting praying with hurry when crossing half court
Joking lol
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If this is true they co tinue to make one mistake after another.
Instead of build a team based on him with appropreate players around him (and subs more important) and help him to correct aspects of his game like PF giving and fatigue they will release it.just beause of a bad 2 months period.anyway there is always the fact that sofo may screw it again already cause of his behaviour or else
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Shortsianitis in the paint is a human tank. No one can stops him. But if you play a smart defense on him, like Pana did two times VS Maccabi, in last year's final and before two days, then Shortsianitis becomes a useless big weapon.
He has some nice movements but the lack of shoot and the lack of physical strength, keeps him a medium player. He is strong heavy but that's all.
I wish (he might wish it as well) he was taller. Like 2.10 - 2.15
He is only 2.05 and his height won't help him much especially in the position he plays.
I would love to have him in PANA, but I believe that all he can do, is to offer 10-15 valuable min to the team. He can't play more.
I like him, he offers nice enjoyable dunks, he puts energy in the paint, but he lacks other important things.
What do you mean when you say "lack of physical strength"?
Who are you to judge?
maccabi thinking about realise sofo beacause he isn't stable mentaly and it seems that he dissapear on critical games.
i thinks that blatt using him wrong, sometime he choosing to only pass the ball to him-against medicore team it works well-but against teams like pana he becoming a TO machine in this tactic.
Hi bro
Although i read your posts from last year and its really one the edge of one side i have to agree with most of it.not everything ofcourse but most.
For example,without having the best image as every mta fan has from the yellows,and having always in my mind that MTA can still catch a crazy 3p shoot day and bet PAO, the roster is hugely unbalanced.something i was written before the final of EL when MTA was made something amazing with a such a roster and reached final.then i said that a high pronciple team with start and end like PAO cannot lose the final.simple because of manywrong areas of the game of MTA.
The title lost for MTA with the easy or the hard way.
This year MTA seems the same unbalanced team.some mediocre players playing a lot and depanded the game on themselves.1 C.too many egoistic shoots.no teamwork.bad defence since the team is offensive oriented.
Anyway i dont want to make it worse.i know in a crazy night like kazan had here some weeks ago,when the 3ps can go inside,MTA can win the game.but the truth is that the last 2 years MTA build it with a wrong way and any true objective eye who can see behind the lines of wins and high scoring can see it clearly.
PAO is big favorite mainly not because he has a hell of a team or play great this time of year but because is the team which play great against unbalanced and one side teams not even mention your defence.
Anyway we have the second game.much more important in my mind for both teams
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Pao knows how to deal with him from oly days not just now
For me its a big mistake something in my opinioni would appreceate if i would be pao management
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Excuse my English.
He lacks of athletic stamina
I meant that Sofo is getting tired very quickly. He can't last a 20-30 min game like most of the players. He can offer only 10 minutes of good basketball. He is too heavy and as far as I know, he usually facing knees problems..
You mean when he was playing for Oly?
Yes PAO did face Sofo with Oly as well in many games. But I can recall games OLY-PAO that Sofo was very good against us. He had some great games vs Pana.
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