Teams with european trophies. The list.

[Panathinaikos bc]

This is a list I made for the Euroleague section of Interbasket forum.

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EUROLEAGUE (Also known as European championship).
Founded in 1958

By teams.

1 Real Madrid, Spain 8 Titles (1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1974, 1978, 1980, 1995)
2 CSKA Moscow, USSR/Russia 6 Titles (1961, 1963, 1969, 1971, 2006, 2008)
2 Panathinaikos, Greece 6 Titles (1996, 2000, 2002, 2007, 2009, 2011)
3 Varese, Italy 5 Titles (1970, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976)
3 Maccabi Tel Aviv, Israel 5 Titles (1977, 1981, 2001, 2004, 2005)
4 ASK Riga, USSR 3 Titles (1958, 1959, 1960)
4 Milano, Italy 3 Titles (1966, 1987, 1988)
4 Split, Yugoslavia 3 Titles (1989, 1990, 1991)
5 FC Barcelona, Spain 2 Titles (2003, 2010)
5 Cibona, Yugoslavia 2 Titles (1985, 1986)
5 Virtus Bologna, Italy 1 Titles (1998,)
5 Cantu, Italy 2 Titles (1982, 1983)
6 Partizan, Yugoslavia 1 Title (1992)
6 Joventut, Spain 1 Title (1994)
6 Virtus Roma, Italy 1 Title (1984)
6 Zalgiris, Lithuania 1 Title (1999)
6 Olympiacos, Greece 1 Title (1997)
6 Bosna Sarajevo, Yugoslavia 1 Title (1979)
6 Dynamo Tbilisi, USSR 1 Title (1962)
6 Limoges, France 1 Title (1993)

By country.

1 ITALY 12 Euroleague titles. (with 5 different teams)
2 SPAIN 11 Euroleague titles. (with 3 different teams)
3 RUSSIA 10 Euroleague titles. (with 3 different teams)
4 GREECE 7 Euroleague titles. (with 2 different teams)
4 EX YUGOSLAVIA 7 Euroleague titles. (with 4 different teams)
5 ISRAEL 5 Euroleague titles. (with 1 team)
6 FRENCH 1 Euroleague title.
6 LITHUANIA 1 Euroleague title.

According the above list, Italian basketball appears as the best league since they managed to bring 5 different Italian teams to the top of Europe. They are still the first country in Euroleague titles, and the first country with most euro champion teams.

By players.

7 Titles

Dino Meneghin (1970, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976 Varese, 1987, 1988 Milano)

5 Titles

Clifford Luyk (1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1974 Real Madrid)
Aldo Ossola (1970, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976 Varese)
Fragiskos Alvertis (1996, 2000, 2002, 2006, 2009 Panathinaikos)

4 Titles

Wayne Brabender (1968, 1974, 1978, 1980 Real Madrid)
Cristobal Rodríguez (1967, 1968, 1974, 1978 Real Madrid)
Emiliano Rodríguez (1964, 1965, 1967, 1968 Real Madrid)
Lolo Sainz (1964, 1965, 1967, 1968 Real Madrid)
Carlos Sevillano (1964, 1965, 1967, 1968 Real Madrid)
Marino Zanatta (1972, 1973, 1975, 1976 Varese)
Sarunas Jasikevicius (2003 Barcelona, 2004 and 2005 Maccabi, 2009 Panathinaikos)


I can't see how Dino Meneghin will loose this record. I think it's going to stay for ever !!!
Another one first place for the Italians.


By coaches.

8 Titles

Zeljko Obradovic (1992 Partizan; 1994 Joventut; 1995 Real Madrid; 2000, 2002, 2007, 2009, 2011 Panathinaikos)

4 Titles

Pedro Ferrandiz (1965, 1967, 1968, 1974 Real Madrid)
Alexander Gomelsky (1958, 1959, 1960 ASK Riga; 1971 CSKA)
Bozidar Maljkovic (1989, 1990 Split; 1993 Limoges; 1996 Panathinaikos)


3 Titles

Aleksandar Nikolic (1970, 1972, 1973 Varese)
Pini Gershon (2001, 2004, 2005 Maccabi)
Ettore Messina (1998, 2006,2008 CSKA)

2 Titles

Evgeny Alekseyev (1961, 1963 CSKA)
Valerio Bianchini (1982 Cantu; 1984 Virtus Roma)
Sandro Gamba (1975, 1976 Varese)
Zeljko Pavlicevic (1986 Cibona; 1991 Split)
Lolo Sainz (1978, 1980 Real Madrid)


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To be continue with Korac cup History.

[Panathinaikos bc]

Korac cup history.
Founded 1971 ended in 2001.

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By country.

1 ITALY 10 Korac titles.
2 SPAIN 6 Korac titles.
3 EX YGOSLAVIA 5 Korac titles.
3 FRENCH 5 Korac titles.
4 GREECE 2 Korac titles.
5 GERMANY 1 Korac title.
5 TURKEY 1 Korac title.

Italy is first in Korac titles as well.

By teams.

click here.

[Adon]

I'll insist.
EL exists from 1996 as a name and as a competition among the best clubs of Europe.
Before EL there was FIBA Champions Cup, a very different kind of tournament. For example, Spain could send only 1 team, the same as the Nederlands or Germany. Anyone who is old enough knows what I'm talking about.

(edit)
I can't recall the year in which multiple teams from the same country could participate. I think it happened in 1996. Anyway, when it happened, the tournament became entirely different.

[Kwijibo]

Wow italy, their teams or national teams sucks a lot the last 10 years but they have a lot of trophies . What about ulebcup/eurocup? I think we should mention that and eurochallenge too xD

[Vazzy]

nice to see, that in the last 10 years Saras won euroleague Trophy 4 times being the key player in the team and i think he being at 37 is still one of the key players in Panathinaikos. hope he will win that title one more time, he deserves it

[Dreamcatcher]

But 2001 year Euroleague was won by Virtus, not by MTA (The first ULEB Euroleague season). In that year CSKA, PAO, MTA and some other clubs went to FIBA SuproLeague, which was won by MTA.

[Panathinaikos bc]

But 2001 year Euroleague was won by Virtus, not by MTA (The first ULEB Euroleague season). In that year CSKA, PAO, MTA and some other clubs went to FIBA SuproLeague, which was won by MTA.

Nope.
Everyone is making the same mistake with the 2001 year.

Read this in order to understand what happened.

The Euroleague (or historically called, the European Champions' Cup) was originally established by FIBA and it operated under its umbrella from 1958 until the summer of 2000, concluding with the 1999-00 season. That was when ULEB, short for the Union of European Leagues of Basketball, was created by the 24 richest club teams, most of them from Spain, Italy, Turkey and Greece.

Amazingly, FIBA had never trademarked the "Euroleague" name and ULEB simply used it without any legal ramifications because FIBA had no legal recourse to do anything about it, so they had to find a new name for their league. Thus, the following 2000–2001 season started with 2 separate top European professional club basketball competitions: the FIBA SuproLeague (previously known as the FIBA Euroleague) and the brand new ULEB Euroleague 2000-01 season.

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That's why I don't count the year 2001 in the trophy list. Because the Suproleague of 2001 was actually the European champions cup as we knew it so many years, with different name due to their mistake of not having trademarked the Euroleague name.
And the 2001 ULEB's Euroleague was actually the new league which had nothing to do with the previous one.

I don't want to downgrade the success of the 2001 ULEB Euroleague champion in any case, but it was not the truly champion of Europe. It was Maccabi and that is because Maccabi won the old historical championship which founded in 1958.

[Panathinaikos bc]

Eurocup challenge.
Founded 2002 ended in 2007

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The competition was played during the 2002-03 to 2006-07 seasons. It was variously known as the FIBA Europe Champions Cup (2002–03), the FIBA Europe Cup (2003–05), and the FIBA EuroCup Challenge (2005–07).

1 RUSSIA 2 Eurocup. (Ural Great Perm, CSK VSS Samara)
2 GREECE 1 Eurocup (Aris bc)
2 ROMANIA 1 Eurocup (CSU Asesoft Ploiesti)
2 GERMANY 1 Eurocup (Mitteldeutscher)

This is the only European trophy for Romania.
I can see many unknown teams here except Aris bc of course.

[Panathinaikos bc]

Saporta CUP
Founded in 1966 ended in 2002

The competition was created in 1966, as the European Cup Winners' Cup, but it had several denominations until its eventual folding in 2002:

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By country.

1 ITALY 15 cups.
2 SPANE 7 cups.
3 GREECE 5 cups.
4 RUSSIA 2 cups.
5 EX YUGOSLAVIA 3 cups.
6 CZECH 1 cup
6 FRENCH 1 cup
6 SLOVENIA 1 cup
6 LITHUANIA 1 cup

By teams.

WOW. Once again the Italians comes first in another one Euro competition.

[Panathinaikos bc]

Wow italy, their teams or national teams sucks a lot the last 10 years but they have a lot of trophies . What about ulebcup/eurocup? I think we should mention that and eurochallenge too xD

The Italians have won 39 different European titles !!!
12 Euroleague (You can add if you want the ULEB championship in 2001 but this is debatable)
15 Cups of cup
10 Korac cup
2 Euro-challenge cup.

The only thing they haven't won is the Eurocup challenge.

[Panathinaikos bc]

Euro challenge.
Founded in 2003.

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(This trophy is the old cup, Fiba were using for the European championship-Euroleague title, till 2000)


The EuroChallenge (called the FIBA Europe League in 2003–05, and EuroCup in 2005–08)[1] is the 3rd tier level transnational men's professional club basketball competition in Europe. It is organized and run by FIBA Europe. It is not to be confused with the EuroCup Challenge

By country.

1 SPANE 2 cup
1 RUSSIA 2 cup
2 ITALY 1 cup
2 GERMANY 1 cup
2 SLOVENIA 1 cup
2 LATVIA 1 cup

By team.

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ULEB Eurocup
Founded in 2002

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Eurocup Basketball (also known as the ULEB Eurocup and previously known as the ULEB Cup from 2002–2008)[1] is the second-tier level transnational professional basketball competition in Europe. The Eurocup is the level that is one tier below the Turkish Airlines Euroleague level.


By country

1 SPANE 4 cups
2 RUSSIA 2 cups
3 LITHUANIA 2 cups
4 ISRAEL 1 cup

[Panathinaikos bc]

So according all these lists above, we have a very messy European competitions. It's very confusing especially for the young people who didn't leave the Korac era.
So they are not able to understand that Saporta cup is the old Cups of cup etch.

I think that the best era for European competitions was back in 80's when we had just 3 major European leagues just like in football .
In football we had: A) The European championship B) Uefa cup C) The cups of cup.
Exactly like in basketball which had A) European championship B) Cups of cup C) Korac cup which was something like the Uefa cup in football.

After the 90's we had many new European competitions and that was something confused everyone!
Some competitions finished, new competitions being added to replace others, and some new one were born.

I think that FIBA Europe have to reform the competitions because they have lost their meanings!

I am confused as well !!!

If I'm not mistaken the current existed European competitions are 3.

The Euroleague the ULEB cup. and the Euro-challenge cup

[Panathinaikos bc]

THE LIST WITH THE MOST TITLED COUNTRIES IN ALL THE EUROPEAN COMPETITIONS since 1958.

This list is by country and refers to champions of : EUROPEAGUE winners - CUPS of CUP winners (Later known as Saporta) the KORAC cup winners the Eurochallenge cup holders, the Eurocup challenge winner,and finally the ULEB cup winners.

The amazing thing is, that Italy is the most titled country despite the fact that the last 10-15 years they are not so competitive like they were in the past.

So let's see the list I made.

1) ITALY 39 titles. (never won the Eurocup challenge)
2) SPANE 30 titles. (never won Eurocup challenge as well.)
3) RUSSIA 18 titles (never won the Korac though. Impressing because despite other competitions, Korac was existed for many decades)
4) EX YUGOSLAVIA 15 titles. (Never won the Euro cup challenge and Euro-challenge cup)
4) GREECE 15 titles. (Never won the Euro cup Challenge)
5) FRENCH 7 titles.
6) ISRAEL 6 titles. (5 in Euroleague competition 1 in Uleb cup)
7) LITHUANIA 4 titles.
8) GERMANY 3 titles. (Never won Euroleague)
9) SLOVENIA 2 titles. (Never won Euroleague)
10) TURKEY 1 title. (Korac)
10) LATVIA 1 title. (Euro-Challenge)
10) ROMANIA 1 title. (Euro cup - challenge)

140 trophies since 1958
140 cup holders, from 13 European countries (and one from Israel)
69 titles, almost the 50% of all the given cups, belongs to Italy (39) and Spain. (30)

I hope you enjoyed the lists.
I think it's nice to have them here all together instead of searching through the Internet's vastness !!!

P.S.

Of course the Croatian friends can claim some of these Eurocups because Cibona zagreb won some of them by the time there was no Croatia as an independent country.
Same thing can claim Estonia Latvia and other countries I forgot and belonged to Yugoslavian & USSR federation.

Maybe it would be more appropriate to make a new list with CROATIA SERBIA LITHUANIA LATVIA etch. Any way...

[Panathinaikos bc]

I'll insist.
EL exists from 1996 as a name and as a competition among the best clubs of Europe.
Before EL there was FIBA Champions Cup, a very different kind of tournament.

So what? That change nothing.

The Euroleague (or historically called, the FIBA European Champions' Cup) was originally established by FIBA and it operated under its umbrella from 1958 until the summer of 2000

The format might changed, but it was the same league founded since 1958.

In 2001 they had to find another name though for their historical league, because ULEB ''stole'' the name Euroleague since there was no copyright issues. (Great stupidity from Fiba side) LOL !!!

And from 2002 ULEB and FIBA joined together in order to operate the Euroleague and continue the old league which started in 1958.

That's why I insist that the champion of 2001 of Uleb's Euroleague, can't be considered as the European champion, because they won ONE & ONLY championship which never organized again !!!! It just happened to named as Euroleague.

The truly Euroleague was Fiba's Suproleague in 2001, because it was the basketball federation which operated all the other 53 European championships. So simple as that.

It's not accidental the fact that the biggest historical teams (PAO CSKA MACCABI Efes Pilsen preferred to stay & play in Fiba's Suproleague instead of joining the Uleb's Euroleague. (Of course because of Bertomeu the big Spanish teams preferred to play in the other league)

So PAO MACCABI CSKA etch they wanted to participate in something which had 54 years of history behind it, and that was the truly European championship for the season 2001.

[Adon]

Thanks for the effort, this list is a very useful reference.
I think that 2001 was a singular point too. Perhaps each trophy should count for 1/2

Imo 80's were not the best era. Let me remind you that many trash teams participated in Champions Cup. London Hightowers, Amsterdam Astronauts, etc. (I try to forget them) Back then, even the few top bb clubs (champions of Yugoslavia,Italy and Spain mostly with Maccabi) were still pretty amateurish with today's standards , although so many extremely talented players rose in the 80's .Perhaps talent-wise was indeed the best era, but we are comparing the tournaments, CC and EL.
I've started to have great interest for bb in the early 80s (as a Galis'/Ari's fan) and I feel nostalgia for those times, but ...

Anyway, I believe that the best-or at least the most difficult- tournament is the EL with its current form, because it doesn't represent countries but the TOP CLUBS. Huge difference. Therefore, I'm against to the addition of Champions cups and EL cups. It's like adding apples and oranges.
Real was the most successful team of the old Champions Cup whereas Panathinaikos is the most successful team of Euroleague.
The Queen and the King. (in Greek, Real is feminine name and the title "Queen" for Real is usual and honorable in the Greek press)

Saporta and its predecessors (EC) ,on the other hand-were more competitive and interesting than Eurocup, because some 1st trier teams which could and would have participated in EL (if there was a EL in the 80's) like Real, Badalona, Paok, Scavolini, RedStar,Cantu,Vilerban, even Vareze, Knor Bolognia and Barcelona sometimes, were participating in the European cup tournaments.
Btw one of the best games I've ever seen was the final Real vs Cazerta in 1989 for the European cup. Drazen Petrovic vs Oscar Schmid, each one in an amazing scoring recital! OT!

[Panathinaikos bc]

Anyway, I believe that the best-or at least the most difficult- tournament is the EL with its current form, because it doesn't represent countries but the TOP CLUBS. Huge difference. Therefore, I'm against to the addition of Champions cups and EL cups. It's like adding apples and oranges.

I agree but they are still European titles so they worth a mention.

The GOLDEN list will always be the EL championship.

1 ITALY 12 Euroleague titles. (with 5 different teams)
2 SPAIN 11 Euroleague titles. (with 3 different teams)
3 RUSSIA 10 Euroleague titles. (with 3 different teams)
4 GREECE 7 Euroleague titles. (with 2 different teams)
4 EX YUGOSLAVIA 7 Euroleague titles. (with 4 different teams)
5 ISRAEL 5 Euroleague titles. (with 1 team)
6 FRENCH 1 Euroleague title.
6 LITHUANIA 1 Euroleague title.

[Victorious]

I think it's impossible to compare some older championships with modern ones. As you already mentioned, the Euroleague of today has little to do with the champions cup of the eighties. For many reasons the EL is much more professional. Likewise, the third tier cups such as the old Korac cup and the modern euro challenge can't be compared either. In this case, perhaps with a little irony, the older version used to be considered to be much more prestigious. That's because only a handful of teams used to play for the Champions cup. So usually the second or third best team of a domestic league used to play for the Korac. Teams like Aris, Paok, Taugres, Efes Pilsen, Stefanel Milano who played for the Korac cup would be considered Champions cup (EL) material if the same number of teams would have been allowed in the champions cup back then.

[dimis]

I can't recall the year in which multiple teams from the same country could participate. I think it happened in 1996.

1996 really?

in the 1992 F4 there were two spanish teams
or how about 1994 and 1995 Final 4 ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurolea...Four#By_season

[Adon]

Definitely the old European Cup and Korac were more prestigious than Eurocup and Euro challenge.

About how much more professional and difficult EL is in comparison with the old Champions Cup, an example can help:
Aris had advanced in 3 consecutive final fours in the 80's with players like Filippou,Lipiridis, Romanidis, Doxakis and Vourtzoumis And there were worst players in that team, who are forgotten forever. Neither their foreign players were anything much (e.g. Wiltzer). No matter how good Galis was, this team's roster would be a joke according to EL standards.

[pohani komarac]

Of course the Croatian friends can claim some of these Eurocups because Cibona zagreb won some of them by the time there was no Croatia as an independent country.
Same thing can claim Estonia Latvia and other countries I forgot and belonged to Yugoslavian & USSR federation.

you can categorize that as you wannt, but croatia has 10 euro club titles. those titles were won by croatian clubs. yugoslavia was the same thing as great britain and croatia was part of yugoslavia, just like scotland is part of UK. croatia in yugoslavia had it's own flag, constitution, police, language etc. anway, by your theory partizan title can't be added to this yugoslavia because in 1992. it was some other yugoslavia with out some of it's states