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Thread: Douthit or McGee for 2013?

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    Default Douthit or McGee for 2013?

    With the recent news that McGee's naturalization process is to start soon (or have started) it's high time that we discuss an issue that will be vital to our 2013 campaign. Now, this does fall under the NT thread but the mods should understand that this in itself has a large scope for discussion and hopefully they understand the need for an own thread since we don't want to totally hi-jack that thread.

    The question is simple: who would you go to war with the the 2013 wars, Douhtit or McGee?

    Before you answer the question and the poll, let's set a few parameters to further make the discussion more interesting;

    a) consider ONLY he FIBA Asia competition in 2013 (because there's no question McGee is the long-term solution compared to Marcus, who's in his 30s)

    b) both are healthy in time for 2013

    Who would you choose for 2013 under Chot's team?
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    With the injury to Dwight Howard, he might be included to Team USA pool. Douhit is still okay but the problem is age. I think we should think of back up plan like getting Giles back, or even Bowles or Dwayne Jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    With the injury to Dwight Howard, he might be included to Team USA pool. Douhit is still okay but the problem is age. I think we should think of back up plan like getting Giles back, or even Bowles
    Age is a problem for Douhtit by 2013? Really?
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    for me its Douhtit

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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    Age is a problem for Douhtit by 2013? Really?
    What i mean is beyond 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    What i mean is beyond 2013
    Do read the original post...
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    Chot is the one recruiting McGee. So, this means that he'll be more comfortable with the guy. My worry about Douthit is that he may be too slow or too tired to cope up with Reyes' system, while McGee can run up with our guards especially on early offense situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinDurant View Post
    Chot is the one recruiting McGee. So, this means that he'll be more comfortable with the guy. My worry about Douhtit is that he may be too slow or too tired to cope up with Reyes' system, while McGee can run up with our guards especially on early offense situations.
    Good point. My choice actually is Douhtit. But yes, a coach's preference will definitely come into play. That being said let's look at the players skill set and tendencies and compare how they fit better with Chot's system:

    Shotblocking - Hands down McGee is the better option. Douhtit is not a pansy in this aspect of course but when you talk about intimidation McGee takes the cake because of his length and athleticism. Help defense goes along with this and i think McGee is very capable of that as well.

    Post Defense - This is the tricky part, Douhtit is more proven internationally (obviously) in going up against international bigs. But this is where the FIBA ball vs NBA ball comes into play. The former does not necessarily emphasize on post players (save for a team or two that has a dominating big man) while the is ripe with players that has paint prowess. Knowing that, do you appreciate McGee's post defense more than Douhtit because he's going up against the likes of Howard, Bynum, Duncan etc on a regular basis? How much FIBA ball do you have to take into consideration when vouching for Douhtit?

    Offense - This is the crucial part for me. As much as we like Douhtit in the past stints McGee is looking like the better fit in Chot's offense. If you see TNT's reinforcement bigs almost always they don't have a mid-range game (Donnel Harvey currently has a respectable mid-range but not with the level of say, Fazekas or even Bowles) but is more of an energy big and gets their points in the paint (put backs and off feeds). Does Chot need Douhtit's mid-range in this system?

    Attitude - The veteran in Douhtit is obviously the better option than the volatile young and immature McGee. When the going gets tough, you want a leader in the team. Douhtit was the big brother in Gilas I. Can he duplicate that with veterans as teammates?

    Do add other issues you may want to discuss. You never know maybe Chot reads here and at least consider our thoughts on the matter
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    FIBa Asia Preview:

    Philippines: A team that would live and die with their American Center whoever he is. They mght change centers every qualifying tournament...

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    No Asi Tauva in 2013, who can replace him for 2013?
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    In terms of athleticism and defense go for Javale, but in terms of fundamental skills go for Douhit. Our team needs rebounding and shot blocking, so I will go for Javale.

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    any will do. better both.lols.
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    honestly i have doubts about mcgee's intention to play for gilas. he might just back out any time he chooses as his agent may see fit. he is a great player, but for me it's too good to be true but am still hopeful he does suit up. denzel bowles seems to me a more realistic prospect. he knows the pinoy game and likes the atmosphere here too bad he's from the other side though hehehe
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    Either Douthit or McGee will do for the team. Experience and familiarity with the Philippine style of basketball favors Douthit since has been part of the program for two years now.

    I still have reservations on McGee as we have not seen him play for our national team. If he can commit right after the current NBA season to play right away for our national team as reinforcement in any FIBA-sanctioned tournament, then maybe we can gauge him if he fits with our brand of play.
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    Match up wise with other C's or big men of other asian teams especially china's Yi or Zhizhi and Iran's Hedadi, imo, mcgee can contain them more effectively than douthit. In my observation during the last fiba asia, Douthit find it hard to contain them on one on one basis. I don't know if we share the same observation but I like to know yours about this part.

    Only one thing that will bother me is the dedication of Mcgee during the game or tournament. If he is willing to go all out especially during important and hard games.

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    For me i want DOUTHIT remain with our team
    because of his familiarity in international basketball

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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    FIBa Asia Preview:

    Philippines: A team that would live and die with their American Center whoever he is. They mght change centers every qualifying tournament...
    We did allow a naturalized i guess we're open to these kinds of insult and ridicule. We Pinoys are thick-skinned though so we'll just heave to grin and bear it...
    Match up wise with other C's or big men of other asian teams especially china's Yi or Zhizhi and Iran's Hedadi, imo, mcgee can contain them more effectively than douthit. In my observation during the last fiba asia, Douthit find it hard to contain them on one on one basis. I don't know if we share the same observation but I like to know yours about this part.

    Only one thing that will bother me is the dedication of Mcgee during the game or tournament. If he is willing to go all out especially during important and hard games.
    i do think the intimidation factor`plays a major role. After all when the stars of Asia see McGee they'll realize they are up against a guy who averages 20-25 minutes per game in the NBA when themselves are just practice players for their teams!
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    Actually I am very delighted with this thread. Never in my dreams that we will choose between two good players.

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    McGee for 2013

    He blocks shots authoritatively, I'm impressed with his ability to handle the ball and create his own shot off the bounce, Blessed with height, athletic ability and and a tons of potential has a bright future ahead of him, we can expect him to appear in many more highlight reels, Plus he is a good finisher off the glass and gets good arm extension to deflect the ball to teammates on the defensive end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by all_about View Post
    McGee for 2013

    He blocks shots authoritatively, I'm impressed with his ability to handle the ball and create his own shot off the bounce, Blessed with height, athletic ability and and a tons of potential has a bright future ahead of him, we can expect him to appear in many more highlight reels, Plus he is a good finisher off the glass and gets good arm extension to deflect the ball to teammates on the defensive end.
    Good point on getting a quality shot off a pass-- some big men are not built that way. All the P n' Rs in Chot system with McGee will be doubly effective. Better than say a pick and pop/roll with Douhtit i think. (Though there'd be no pick and pop with McGee so teams could decide to pack up sliding lines in this case..)
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