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    Slovenian Memi Bečirovič is the new coach of the NT.
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    24 players have been invited to the National team in preparation for next month's West Asian Championship games in Jordan.

    Hamed Haddadi, Samad Nikkhah Bahrami, Hamed Afaq, Mehdi Kamrani, Farid Aslani, Mousa Nabipour, Roozbeh Arghavan, Reza Lotfi, Mohammad Hassanzadeh, Asghar Kardoust, Javad Davari,Majid Ghassemzadeh , Saeed Davarpanah, Saman Veisi, Mehrad Atashi, Mohammad Jamshidi, Oshin Sahakyan, Aren Davoodi, Ali Baheran, Mohammad Akbari, Hamed Sohrabnezhad, Amir Seddighi, Mohammad Reza Khabazan and Arslan Kazemi.

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    Iran call up 20 players for preliminary training for the Stankovic Cup

    Player List:

    Hamed Haddadi, Arsalan Kazemi, Samad Bahrami, Mehdi Kamrani, Hamed Afagh, Farid Aslani, Reza Lotfi, Saeed Davarpanah, Mehrad Atashi, Aren Davoudi, Oshin Sahakian, Farhad Saboori, Jaber Rouzbehani, Javad Davari, Amirhosein Tatari, Mohammadreza Khabazan, Ruzbeh Arghavan, Mohammad Jamshidi, Asghar Kardoust, Mohammad Hassanzadeh.

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    Iran (missing a lot of players) loses 70-41 to Germany:
    http://www.tbf.org.tr/adidasistanbul...8?OpenDocument
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGX View Post
    Iran (missing a lot of players) loses 70-41 to Germany:
    http://www.tbf.org.tr/adidasistanbul...8?OpenDocument
    Will they play against Finland with the same squad?

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    We showed Iran that we can beat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by all_about View Post
    We showed Iran that we can beat them.
    You mean the Mahram club not the National Team right dude?

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    Iran's possible roster for FIBA Asia Cup

    Samad Nikkhah
    Hamed Afagh
    Aren Davoudi
    Oshin Sahakian
    Asghar Kardoust
    Rouzbeh Arghavan
    Farid Aslani
    Mohammad Jamshidi
    Mohammad Zare'ei
    Younes Lalehzadeh
    Meisam Mirzaei
    Amir Seddighi

    They have 3 more players in the camp from the junior team (Yakhchali, Mashayekhi and Forootan)

    Kamrani and Nabipour are injured, Veisi withdrew from the team. but where is Davari ? also why they didn't invite Hassanzadeh ! (injury ?) even Davarpanah

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohsena2631 View Post
    Iran's possible roster for FIBA Asia Cup

    Samad Nikkhah
    Hamed Afagh
    Aren Davoudi
    Oshin Sahakian
    Asghar Kardoust
    Rouzbeh Arghavan
    Farid Aslani
    Mohammad Jamshidi
    Mohammad Zare'ei
    Younes Lalehzadeh
    Meisam Mirzaei
    Amir Seddighi

    They have 3 more players in the camp from the junior team (Yakhchali, Mashayekhi and Forootan)

    Kamrani and Nabipour are injured, Veisi withdrew from the team. but where is Davari ? also why they didn't invite Hassanzadeh ! (injury ?) even Davarpanah
    Davari is dealing with some back problems for some months now so that's why he is out of the roster. About Hasanzadeh i think his problems regarding military issues for not letting him leave the country is still lagging there and couldn't be solved in a week,so that's probably why he isn't included. About Davarpanah i'm pretty surprised. He is surely better than Mirzaei,Lalehzadeh and Zare'ei. The most important question to me is where the hell is Reza Lotfi?? He was becoming quite a player in these 2 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by behzadir View Post
    Davari is dealing with some back problems for some months now so that's why he is out of the roster. About Hasanzadeh i think his problems regarding military issues for not letting him leave the country is still lagging there and couldn't be solved in a week,so that's probably why he isn't included. About Davarpanah i'm pretty surprised. He is surely better than Mirzaei,Lalehzadeh and Zare'ei. The most important question to me is where the hell is Reza Lotfi?? He was becoming quite a player in these 2 years
    thanks bro, didn't know about Davari's injury.

    but Hassanzadeh and Davarpanah weren't even in first list ! so I think there is another problem here.

    I hope Becir won't play in 5-6 players for the entire tournament. that's what I hate about Matic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by behzadir View Post
    Davari is dealing with some back problems for some months now so that's why he is out of the roster. About Hasanzadeh i think his problems regarding military issues for not letting him leave the country is still lagging there and couldn't be solved in a week,so that's probably why he isn't included. About Davarpanah i'm pretty surprised. He is surely better than Mirzaei,Lalehzadeh and Zare'ei. The most important question to me is where the hell is Reza Lotfi?? He was becoming quite a player in these 2 years
    I would like to ask sir, where is Amir Amini? I haven't seen him play for your national team for some time now. I think he's a good point guard, not to mention that he's a tall point guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mohsena2631 View Post
    thanks bro, didn't know about Davari's injury.

    but Hassanzadeh and Davarpanah weren't even in first list ! so I think there is another problem here.

    I hope Becir won't play in 5-6 players for the entire tournament. that's what I hate about Matic.
    Your welcome bro, Davari needed the rest i guess, happy he's forced to have one!

    I too hope Becir uses a much wider rotation in this tournament as this is a great test for the national team

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    Well Amir Amini has been digressing dramatically in these 4 years. His only advantage above other PG's was his height that he couldn't utilize because of his poor ball handling. He is a great defensive player but on offense he has been less-productive each year going by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by behzadir View Post
    Well Amir Amini has been digressing dramatically in these 4 years. His only advantage above other PG's was his height that he couldn't utilize because of his poor ball handling. He is a great defensive player but on offense he has been less-productive each year going by.
    Tenx for the info sir. Well talking about retrogressing, I notice ( & some basketball observers also have noticed) that Iran NT's top point guard Mahdi Kamrani isn't what he used to be. I mean, just a few years ago, Kamrani used to be a dead-shot from the outside & a scoring threat as well. He seems to have deteriorated in the past 2 years or so. Being the No.1 point guard, his orchestration & play-making skills are still there, the smarts & decision making haven't ceased, but his once solid offensive game seem to have deserted him.

    One thing I also notice about Iran NT is that the starters, Samad Nikkah Bahrami, Hamed Afagh, Oshin Sahakian & Mahdi Kamrani usually logged major minutes in every game, sometimes they even play without relief. And this to think that there are many potential talents in the Iranian national pool. I think in international tournaments where scheduled of the games is hectic, phasing of players is crucial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    Tenx for the info sir. Well talking about retrogressing, I notice ( & some basketball observers also have noticed) that Iran NT's top point guard Mahdi Kamrani isn't what he used to be. I mean, just a few years ago, Kamrani used to be a dead-shot from the outside & a scoring threat as well. He seems to have deteriorated in the past 2 years or so. Being the No.1 point guard, his orchestration & play-making skills are still there, the smarts & decision making haven't ceased, but his once solid offensive game seem to have deserted him.

    One thing I also notice about Iran NT is that the starters, Samad Nikkah Bahrami, Hamed Afagh, Oshin Sahakian & Mahdi Kamrani usually logged major minutes in every game, sometimes they even play without relief. And this to think that there are many potential talents in the Iranian national pool. I think in international tournaments where scheduled of the games is hectic, phasing of players is crucial.

    I absolutely agree with you on both issues you brought up. Well about Kamrani i guess age and injury has finally caught up with him and has limited him on his self creating offense. More importantly he is less active on defense where he used to pressure the ball so much that led to TO's by opponents PG's. All in all yes he is no longer the player that can play 33+ mins a game and still be clutch. I think with Aren Davoud and Sajjad Mashayekhi's improvement we will see a more deep rotation in that position.

    Yes unfortunately Matic had this kinda ideology about the game which really hurt our youth players gaining experience procedure. He was mainly focusing on getting results,i don't know maybe he was forced to do so by the federation. But whether it took the starting 5 to play the whole game or not he was going a t it to get the final result. Unfortunately this is pretty much the case for west asian teams. Lebanon and Jordan usually do the same too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohsena2631 View Post
    Iran's possible roster for FIBA Asia Cup

    Samad Nikkhah
    Hamed Afagh
    Aren Davoudi
    Oshin Sahakian
    Asghar Kardoust
    Rouzbeh Arghavan
    Farid Aslani
    Mohammad Jamshidi
    Mohammad Zare'ei
    Younes Lalehzadeh
    Meisam Mirzaei
    Amir Seddighi

    They have 3 more players in the camp from the junior team (Yakhchali, Mashayekhi and Forootan)
    Lalehzadeh, Zareei and Mirzaei are out ! 3 junior team members in !

    Final Roster (official)

    Samad Nikkhah
    Hamed Afagh
    Aren Davoudi
    Oshin Sahakian
    Asghar Kardoust
    Rouzbeh Arghavan
    Farid Aslani
    Mohammad Jamshidi
    Amir Seddighi
    Sajjad Mashayekhi
    Saleh Foroutan
    Behnam Yakhchali

    I think it's tooo early for these kids to play in senior team. I know FIBA Asia Cup isn't really important and it's really good to have some young players in the squad but they are too young ! they won't help Iran NT next year. One day for sure, but not at this young age, not in 2013. even Seddighi is still too young. Actually this is a 8 man team. even Aslani and Jamshidi are playing their first year with the national team. (even though they both deserve it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohsena2631 View Post
    Lalehzadeh, Zareei and Mirzaei are out ! 3 junior team members in !

    Final Roster (official)

    Samad Nikkhah
    Hamed Afagh
    Aren Davoudi
    Oshin Sahakian
    Asghar Kardoust
    Rouzbeh Arghavan
    Farid Aslani
    Mohammad Jamshidi
    Amir Seddighi
    Sajjad Mashayekhi
    Saleh Foroutan
    Behnam Yakhchali

    I think it's tooo early for these kids to play in senior team. I know FIBA Asia Cup isn't really important and it's really good to have some young players in the squad but they are too young ! they won't help Iran NT next year. One day for sure, but not at this young age, not in 2013. even Seddighi is still too young. Actually this is a 8 man team. even Aslani and Jamshidi are playing their first year with the national team. (even though they both deserve it)
    I think its for the better...(you are 9 man strong already for 2013)

    But at least 3 would be not strong enough to help iran in 2015

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    Salam Mohsen! haven't been following the league and players as closely as I should have, how could we go to Japan without any Shirazi on the roster
    what happened to Hasanzadeh and Shirjang? do they have military service issues or are they not doing a good job?
    it is actually a bit disappointing that there are no players on the roster from the 2008 U-18 Asian champion team as far as I can tell!


    Quote Originally Posted by mohsena2631 View Post
    Lalehzadeh, Zareei and Mirzaei are out ! 3 junior team members in !

    Final Roster (official)

    Samad Nikkhah
    Hamed Afagh
    Aren Davoudi
    Oshin Sahakian
    Asghar Kardoust
    Rouzbeh Arghavan
    Farid Aslani
    Mohammad Jamshidi
    Amir Seddighi
    Sajjad Mashayekhi
    Saleh Foroutan
    Behnam Yakhchali

    I think it's tooo early for these kids to play in senior team. I know FIBA Asia Cup isn't really important and it's really good to have some young players in the squad but they are too young ! they won't help Iran NT next year. One day for sure, but not at this young age, not in 2013. even Seddighi is still too young. Actually this is a 8 man team. even Aslani and Jamshidi are playing their first year with the national team. (even though they both deserve it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buran View Post
    Salam Mohsen! haven't been following the league and players as closely as I should have, how could we go to Japan without any Shirazi on the roster
    what happened to Hasanzadeh and Shirjang? do they have military service issues or are they not doing a good job?
    it is actually a bit disappointing that there are no players on the roster from the 2008 U-18 Asian champion team as far as I can tell!
    Salam

    We already discussed about Hassanzadeh, technically he deserved to be in this team. I have no idea about Shirjang. he wasn't very good this year but they should invite him at least for the first camp but they didn't !

    good point, but we have one player from that team (M. Jamshidi) but where is the rest ? some of them wasted their time on Zob Ahan's bench (Amjad, Salmani, Honarmand, Zare) and I know Farman and Derboghosian are living in the states. unfortunately from that team only Jamshidi, Shirjang and Hassanzadeh played regularly in the Super League.

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    Amjad and Salmani both played well in 2008 if I remember correctly. too bad we are not hearing more from them at the National level.
    I just dug out some information on Farbod Farman and Sooren Derboghosian, they are both playing in NJCAA and not NCAA and as far as stats are concerned, they both are not putting big numbers on the board, unless I missed something. Sooren plays for Glendale community college and I was surprised to see Zorik Isajanian in the coaching staff! he's the special assistant coach on the team.
    http://glendale.edu/modules/ShowDocu...cumentid=12942
    http://wp.missouristate.edu/Grizzly/bb/FarbodFarman.htm

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    Salam

    We already discussed about Hassanzadeh, technically he deserved to be in this team. I have no idea about Shirjang. he wasn't very good this year but they should invite him at least for the first camp but they didn't !

    good point, but we have one player from that team (M. Jamshidi) but where is the rest ? some of them wasted their time on Zob Ahan's bench (Amjad, Salmani, Honarmand, Zare) and I know Farman and Derboghosian are living in the states. unfortunately from that team only Jamshidi, Shirjang and Hassanzadeh played regularly in the Super League.

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