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SBP Long-Term National Pool (Vol. XIX)
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"I should have been informed!"
shuhuko,
gee whiz. none of ur sentiments are new. there have been other people here who are so pissed on reyes and/or his small-ball approach and /or the possibility that he will just implement his tnt system with the national team. they have shared their views and discussions were made. keep up but perhaps u can emphasize ur ideas while being cordial enough so those who are against ur ideas would also give their response in the same cordial way. a forum is primarily meant for information dissemination and discussion, not for catharsis.
killmebusy,
williams was listed as 6'7 in his college days for sure but he's more like 6'5. and he is actually listed as 6'4 in the pba website although that site is not free of error but it does give u an idea on what's his real ht (without shoes) give and take some measurement error.
thats what im talking about, he is too small for a power forward. he is just a 6'5 at most, how can he challenge YI?Originally Posted by neo
Shuhuko23 = Galj = KikoMatsing
MR. T. --->>> PACLAND
he maybe small and can be outmuscle and outplay by Yi, but against the middle easter and other asian countries, Williams is a one hell of a match-up.
the bad thing about his game is that he started to be a 1 dimensional guy who used to shoot threes and drive to the basket more often.
and shuhuko23 how many international games had your watched with williams ?
i watch all his game in FIBA,..i even memorized all his highlights especially during jones cup vs IRAN. i know all his moves.
probably around 6-5 to 6-7 just like the imports who dropped by in PBA, padded with at least 1-2 inch coz they are measure with shoes
I've seen Williams in person. No way is he just 6'4". He is a legit 6'6", 6'7" with shoes.
However -- and we are going in circles here -- I'd rather take him and his experienced 6'7" frame than a raw and fundamentally unsound 6'10" Fajardo. Fajardo is still being developed. Williams is still ready, willing, and more than able. If you want instant results, go with Williams.
And I remember shuhuko23 saying that we can't dream of the Olympics with that kind of a line-up... Well, the next qualifiers won't be until 2015. Three years from now. Who knows, through some stroke of magic, SMC and MVP would have made up by that time and our bigs would be developed. But as it is, the 2013 FIBA Asia tournament is the target. I doubt if Fajardo would be developed into a Williams-type PF or a Douthit-type C by that time. As it is, Williams and Thoss are the best options among the local players.
As for Castro... Even at his age, he is faster than Casio and Barroca, who slashed through defenses last year. He hasn't lost a step and has improved his shooting.
Believe!
Emman Monfort says you may kiss his PBA draftee's ass
whatever his height is, his heart, athleticism, strength and rebounding as a power forward is on top of the chart.
Kelly is one for 2013 - Junmar is one for 2015 onwards. SMB is doing a good job of exposing him to ABL competition where he usually defends the big import. And we should have a good defender at the PF position. then Pringle-Casio-Castro-Norwood at the backcourt.
"Never doubt that a small group of concerned citizens can change the world. Indeed it's the only thing that ever has..."
-Margaret Mead
you all believe in instant result,..you mean instant 8 place? why not develop those young guns, so that we can get that instant result in the future.
hay, do you have the money to mourn about your idea?we already talk about that so many times, we are just being realisitic. BTW this forum is not about PBa, its about the national team. so stop crying . we are all in the same page.
two words - cadet pool...so be patient. give the national team duties to chot's pick of players now, we have a bright future with the cadets lead by your favorite guy junmar, slaughter, parks, et al. also, like we all have been saying...unless and until you somehow make enough money to form your own national team or if you somehow become head of the SBP then the national team we support is the one funded, formed and run by the current set of SBP officials and coach chot. don't get me wrong, i'm no chot lover but i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. he was in the coaching staff of our previous NT so surely he learned a lot there...
yes.that is why williams was listed as 6'7 abroad (measured with shoes). in the pba players are measured without shoes (at pinapahiga pa) so he's most likely 6'5. but we have seen that he can rebound very well against many asian teams so his lack of size at the pf position is not a major problem although it would help if we can have at least one tall pf (perhaps someone who can play both center and pf positions without sacrificing much size and speed). what i do not like to see is another de ocampo-williams tandem at the pf position. with age probably slowing them down, i'll like it better if only of them will make the final cut to serve as the veteran pf of the team. it would be a choice between 2 contrasting type of a pf. however, its also possible that other prospects (e.g. aguilar) would probably not be ready by 2013 so we could still have both. that would also depend on whether chot would give more slots for frontcourt players or shooters.
castro making it in the 2013 team, imo, is more imperative than having alapag. time for a new era at the pg position, both in the pba and national team. i like a castro and casio tandem with a 3rd pg (at least in the final 15) slot given on a pure pg or a defense-oriented pg with size (at least 6'0).
Williams is good defender and a great rebounder. But his shooting is horrible. I might consider Washington. Besides he's a legitimate 6'6" or 6'7". Or it would be great if they alternate at 4.
Honestly, I don't have problems with inclusion of under size players. We can include two under 6'0 ft in our setup anytime, but my point is too always include two big men in our five to provide inside presence, screens, decoy and better defense. That is always effective. I'm not saying that throughout 40 plus minutes of basketball that we will always include 2 big men, but I hope majority of the game we will always have two big men in our setup
imagine our defense if aaron craft stephen holt and mcgee will be able to play together...
sadly, hagop is there to prevent as from acquiring fil-fors in an instant.
im not talking about the scoring of castro, we know he can score, im talking about his outside shooting, he drive, fish fouls, we know that, but FIBA is different, he cant drive that way with those giant inside, thats why his 3 pt shooting is important,
do you have any proof that he cant drive against those giants?
castro was a former singapore slinger who played in NBL or something like that with guys over 6-8 to 6-10
by the way have you watched the finals last commissioner's cup?he hit a lot of crucial threes.
that is an in your face answer to your question, better google your self..
are you a petron fan?
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