Budgets of Russian clubs
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The data was given by Sergey Ivanov (man behind VTB) to Russian newspaper SportExpress, translated to English by this dude
The Russian source states this is data for 2012-2013 season , which of course is a BS: most clubs haven't closed their rosters for the future season, how do they supposed to know salaries and extra expenses? Most chances it covers the last season ( 2011-2012).
Many numbers look rather strange , e.g. Khimki salaries - 11.75M before taxes . For a roster that includes Planinic, Loncar, Monya, Kelati , Langford, Nielsen,Gelabale & Quinn that's unreal budget. IIRC Langford alone was paid $2.3M after taxes.
maybe this is what clubs expect?The Russian source states this is data for 2012-2013 season , which of course is a BS: most clubs haven't closed their rosters for the future season, how do they supposed to know salaries and extra expenses? Most chances it covers the last season ( 2011-2012).
anyway....we all know what clubs to most "investors" mean
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is there anyone who belives this kind "investmens" can pay off to "investors"?
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If these budgets are correct, then the Russian teams have even more horrible managers than Malaga does. I mean seriously, Lokomotiv's budget? Is this a joke? Khimki put together such a roster for that money? I mean they should be Euroleague Final Four contender for such money, not missing Euroleague qualification and settling for Eurocup. Such a budget and they are signing players like Quinn, Nielsen, Gelabale, Kelati?Originally Posted by Billy Bounce
I don't even know where to begin with Lokomotiv. With such a budget as that, and the best players you have are guys like Massey, Traore, Bykov. This is a joke.
CSKA is even more ridiculous though. When it all came down to reality, they were no more than a 50-50 team to win or lose against PAO and Olympiacos. For such a ridiculous budget, they should have had much better players than guys like Shved, Gordon, Lavrinovic, Mejia, Siska, Vorontsevich playing in their rotation, or in Mejia's case, as someone that was signed with that in mind. It reminds me of the very poor management of Olympiacos in previous years.
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We could try to figure it out: there is "transfers" part of the budgets . Khimki , Lokomotiv, UNICS are the only ones that spend money on transfers.
If they are the only clubs that signed players mid-season : that's last year budgets.
UNICS signed Nachbar mid-season (January) - check
Khimki signed Gelabele (January) - check
Loko loaned Ilievski from Efes ( February) - check
Don't remember any mid-season transfers for the rest of the teams.
I like Novgorod's income
Cedevita-3.000.000
Partizan-2.000.000
Crvena Zvezda- 1.800.000
Radnicki-1.500.000
Krka-1.300.000
Cibona-1.100.000
Olimpija-1.000.000
Buducnost-1.000.000
Igokea-800.000
Szolnoki Olaj-800.000
MZT-700.000
Zadar-400.000
Siroki-400.000
Split-300.000
take that Russians
http://crosarka.com/aba-liga/cedevit...-budzetom-1465
I don't know how much this is truth. I think this is how much each team plans to spend on first team. I guess??
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we should not forget, that in russian league there is a rule, that at any time of the game, at least two russians must be on the court for each team. And taking that there are a lot of good teams, and not too many this level of russian players, most of the russian players gets overpaid big time. Maybe some of them are not big power in euroleague or eurocup, but they have their roles in national competition.
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team budgets.
Anadolu Efes ; 25M € +-
Fenerbahçe ; 20M €
Galatasaray ; 15M $ +-
Banvit ; 10M €
Beşiktaş ; 6M €
Ted Kolejliler ; 7M TL
Aliağa Petkim ; 6M TL
Gaziantep RH ; 5M TL
Karışıyaka ; 5M TL +-
Tofaş ; 5M TL
Erdemir; 4M TL
Olin Edirne ; 4M TL +-
Telekom ; 4M TL
Mersin ; 4M TL
Antalya ; 3M TL
Hacettepe; 2M TL
ps. estimated figure.
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Besiktas' budget seems right. It's reported from the executives that the budget will be € 6,5 million already. It's the budget without the sponsor company. I think eventually they will find a sponsor to expand the budget. It will be like 10 millions.
Btw, I guess Banvit's budget is lesser but close to 10 millions.
If this numbers are real, are more or less like ACB teams
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Well, when talking about the budgets, expecialy pay attention to these variables:
-some teams are talking about € some others in $, get's mixed up a lot
-some teams are talking about team expenditures, other about whole budget of the organisation including B teams, younger selections etc.
-some are talking salaries only, others salaries + car + apartment + food + equipment + other potential services
-some are talking about net income, others about gross income
Basicaly it's almost impossible to compare those various figures in regard to various tax rates within various countries.
The budgets Pohani pasted for ABA, are supposed evaluation of budgets by a league insider. Krka officialy denied having 1.3 millions of budget, claiming they're basicaly spending less than 900.000 € for the first team as well as all of their their loaned players.
Cedevita spending 3 millions on players? That one million for Dario Šarić wouldn't be an issue at all than, majority of their team probably isn't receiving even 100k per season (if they are, too bad for the management) while Tomas and Andrić might indeed be expensive, along with Šuput, Wright and Baždarić, no way those 5 represent all that much above 1 million €. Either they intend to surprise with some big signings in the future or 3 millions is heavily exaggerated.
They are pretty much real. A Turkish club has at least € 1 million budget, under usual conditions.
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