PHL 's chances in the watered down Olympics

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and subsequent foreseeable possibility of being competitive in the true World Cup pf Basketball

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This is maybe the last All-Superstar Team the NBA will participate in, (including the international players like the Gasol Brothers, Dirk, Parker, Hadadi and Yi among others). NBA and FIBA are thinking of watering down or putting less importance on the Olympic Basketball tourney and just make it an Under-23 competition , much like the Olympic futbol competition format.

NBA and FIBA are pushing for the FIBA World Championships, re-branded as The World Cup of Basketball as the "PREMIERIEST" , most prestigious tournament in the whole universe. Recently, NBA commish David Stern is in discussion and is deliberating to make this the last Olympics wherein the NBA will participate in. The reason: it's all about the revenue. Currently, the IOC controls the Olympic basketball tournament and the majority of the revenue it generates. and most of the NBA owners, most notably Mark Cuban want a share of the pie and understandably so, want to see returns on the investments they put in players.

So before anything else, the discussion should center around PHL chance of qualifying first in the watered-down Olympics and secondly, it's competitiveness if it will qualify.

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First and foremost, even if the tournament is watered down to just U23 competition (plus, maybe 2 overaged players)..PHL will still find it hard to qualify for the tournament. but the window has become bigger, even if only by a few millimeter. I believe the PHL's innate basketball skills and IQ is still at par or maybe even slightly higher as compared to the best of Asia at that level. (emphasis on "that level") And height and girth (dis)advantages at that age-group are not that big of a factor,and can be negated with PHL's DNA engrained hoops skillset and "gulang". Again, on that level.

Case in point, the PHL's strong performances, albeit, still-coming-up-short in the region's youth and junior's competitions in recent years. Maybe a couple more tweaks here and there, plus participation of ALL stake holders can make this possible. So maybe, just maybe, our young players can still make our Olympic dreams a reality, in this lifetime.

[sinobball]

This is maybe the last All-Superstar Team the NBA will participate in, (including the international players like the Gasol Brothers, Dirk, Parker, Hadadi and Yi among others). NBA and FIBA are thinking of watering down or putting less importance on the Olympic Basketball tourney and just make it an Under-23 competition , much like the Olympic futbol competition format.

NBA and FIBA are pushing for the FIBA World Championships, re-branded as The World Cup of Basketball as the "PREMIERIEST" , most prestigious tournament in the whole universe. Recently, NBA commish David Stern is in discussion and is deliberating to make this the last Olympics wherein the NBA will participate in. The reason: it's all about the revenue. Currently, the IOC controls the Olympic basketball tournament and the majority of the revenue it generates. and most of the NBA owners, most notably Mark Cuban want a share of the pie and understandably so, want to see returns on the investments they put in players.

So before anything else, the discussion should center around PHL chance of qualifying first in the watered-down Olympics and secondly, it's competitiveness if it will qualify.

#1 Nowitzki and Haddadi won't play in the Olympics, and probably Parker too; #2 there is nothing suggesting FIBA is for the U23 idea and #3 Stern is talking about whether USA should send NBA players, he has no control or influence over the rest of the world.

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#1 Nowitzki and Haddadi won't play in the Olympics, and probably Parker too; #2 there is nothing suggesting FIBA is for the U23 idea and #3 Stern is talking about whether USA should send NBA players, he has no control or influence over the rest of the world.

last i heard, NBA is pushing FIBA to make this for everybody. It may be for FIBA's best interest to follow suit as they dont want to fall out of the NBA's good graces, now that Mark Cuban just recently told those who bothered to listen that the NBA can / must / should organize a some sort of world cup for national teams, and the revenues generated will stay within the NBA confers.

and yes, my friend, the hoopzworld revolves around the NBA Sun.

[nardy]

there's a great possibility that this might happen .... this explains why aside why the GILAS 2.0 player pool is forming a Cadet team which is primarily made-up of players coming from the college teams aside from the Elite team which are made-up of PBA Professional Players and the SEABA Select which are made-up of non-PBA and out-of-college players majority of whom are from the PBA DLeague and the ABL.

For the Olympics, our future really falls on the shoulders of Parks, Ravena and the members of the Youth Teams that Coaches Franz Pumaren, Eric Altamirano and Olsen Racela handled.

I do not know if you guys remember the suggested composition of Senior National Teams that's stated in the Official FIBA Manual:

3 players between 17 to 21 years old
10 older players, between 21 to 27 years old
and 2 players older than 27 years old

This is based on studies by FIBA which they concluded that Five to Eight years are required for the development of full playing maturity and they find it best if the players selected based on the above age ranges.

Young players are the game carriers. The competition experience of the older players and the competition enthusiasm of the younger ones should be complementary. The team should have at least three players who, owing to their playing and competitive qualities can carry the game of the whole team, and at least five players who are capable of integrating themselves into the playing and technical/tactical concept of the team. The team must have at least two specialists, players specialized in specific technical/tactical skills and five promising players. One of the players should be a Potential Top Player.

While the rest of the world are more or less adhering to what the FIBA wants to happen, except for SMART GILAS we stubbornly field a Team majority is made-up of players from the PBA which always makes our team always the OLDEST in every tournament so in a compact tournament format wherein each game is played almost everyday from start to finish, our ageing professionals usually run out of breath at the later part of the tournament which is the most crucial part.

In case of a watered-down Olympics, it would be beneficial to the PBA as their players would be needed only during the FIBA Basketball World Cup and with lesser responsibility and lesser time to adjust their schedule, the PBA more or less would be much easier to convince to cooperate.

Please note that the PBA had set a limit of 23 years old in order to apply for the PBA Rookie Draft. Which would mean in a Under-23 only Olympic competition there would be no PBA players.

[nardy]

#1 Nowitzki and Haddadi won't play in the Olympics, and probably Parker too; #2 there is nothing suggesting FIBA is for the U23 idea and #3 Stern is talking about whether USA should send NBA players, he has no control or influence over the rest of the world.

FIBA and the NBA are discussing of such a move as the current set-up are making it a burden to the Star Players of the National Teams as they are almost playing non-stop every year and risking them to injuries. You should know this as this is specifically what forced Yao Ming to early retirement. Players are still human and the wear-and-tear of the physical body is accelerated if not given the right amount of rest.

[nardy]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oly...23-format.html

London 2012 Olympics: burnout fears spark NBA idea of Games basketball using football's under-23 format
By Telegraph Sport
12:25PM BST 31 May 2012

The NBA wants to pull basketball's top players out of future Olympic Games and model the competition on the under-23 format used in football.

This year marks the 20th anniversary of the original United States 'Dream Team', the squad featuring Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird that won gold in Barcelona in the first year NBA players took part, a team widely credited with helping spark the global popularity of the sport.

The game's biggest stars – including Team GB's Luol Deng – are in line to play at the London Olympics this summer, but it could be the last Games in which they feature.

Plans floated by commissioner David Stern and his deputy Adam Silver at a press conference on Wednesday night ahead of the draft lottery would see Olympic basketball transformed in to a youth tournament, because of fears over player burnout.

Silver said: "Owners have raised repeatedly the issue of our players playing in essence year round when you add the Olympics to our newly renamed World Cup of Basketball (formerly the FIBA World Championship).

"So when you have the Olympics, the World Cup of Basketball, we are taking a very close look at whether it makes sense from an NBA standpoint and a global basketball standpoint for the top players to be playing at that level on a year-round basis, and somewhere [every] summer."

Silver said the NBA is planning talks with USA Basketball and FIBA following the London Olympics to discuss the matter.

Olympic football squads are made up of under-23 players, with a maximum of three 'over-age' players in the group.

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Please note that the PBA had set a limit of 23 years old in order to apply for the PBA Rookie Draft. Which would mean in a Under-23 only Olympic competition there would be no PBA players.

this may be beneficial to the PBA, but this can also play against the U-23 NT. Imagine, the core of the NT will just be college players and semi-pros playing just against their peers and not against the top professionals in the PBA. They may be The Men amongst the boys in their age group, but unless they play regularly vs the bigger boys in the PBA, there' no way they can gauge how they can compare skills-wise and how they'll know if they can hold their own against more skilled and experienced pros. Please note too the players from other countries dont have that restriction of forbidding players from a certain age to play in the top level. China has teenagers playing in the CBA. I can imagine Japan, Korea, the middle east countries and CT also do not have age-restriction in their top leagues too.

but then again , as Smart Gilas 1.0 proved, with the right system, and constant exposure abroad to develop team-work and skills, this set-up may have a chance for international glory