Wait-wait,mate.Originally Posted by jonga
man, if u are so sure.... the best thing you can do is: to bet all your money for olympiakos first in the group. is very easy money for you, impossible to lose. so, you could do a favor to your friends or family, say them that you know how to win easy money.... with the greek crisis is a a great favor to know the future. in my country (spain) we are also in crisis, and trust me, if I know the future, if I know something sure, I would do that, bet all my money in bet365 or similar.
and now talking more seriously. the rosters are incomplete, I think that olympiakos could be first, second, third, fourth..... anything is possible. olympiakos last year had a lot of problems in the first phase and also in the top16. olympiakos won the last euroleague, was great, was miraculous, but is difficult to repeat another miracle..... and now people like you think that your are the best team in the world, and sincerely you are not.
Olympiakos has the best team in the Group.He is not going to have problems with the other teams,but,of course,I may make a mistake.And what do you mean <miracle>?Of course,you are right that Olympiakos had problems in the regular season one year before but now is different.This thing that you call <miracle> I call it <good defense>.We eliminated Siena in the Top 8,Barcelona in the semi-final,CSKA in the final and Panathinaikos in the Greek finals.So,do you believe that all these things were miracles?OK,it is your opinion.My opinion is that Olympiakos is the best european team(for now).
And.....where is the problem?
Do u said that greece only have 2 teams in EL. That 3rd team will be very mediocre for ELAnd.....where is the problem?
BARÇA O MUERTE
After UNICS failed and Cantu won it's all clear.
Group A is one of the toughest in EL history and is far out of reach quality-wise this season. Pao massively deteriorated but we can't write off a team with such a huge history and tradition (and slimy DD in it). I think that most probable candidates for Top 16 from this group are (in alphabetical order) Fenerbahce, Khimki, Panathinaikos, Real Madrid but to predict their final places is a hard task. Though I think that Madrilenos have the best chances for finishing at the top. And I definitely won't be surprised if Cantu will overcome one of those in the competition for the Top 16 spot. Olympia is not that shitty and with some luck can be dangerous at home but they are level or two below any other team in the group. Hard luck with the draw for them.
Group B is the worst (aside from Barca and CSKA Group D is also bad but it has those two superclubs). Just like Pao, Siena and MTA took the change for worse (though their level drop is not that frightening) but still I think that it would be a miracle if one of them won't qualify most probably getting the two top spots. Unicaja is almost on par with them quality-wise but has a long history of underperformance in last years so they most probably would fight with solid Alba (it's a tragedy that they lost my great favourite Nathan Peavy who has all the abilities to become an elite forward in Europe) for the 3rd place. This year's Prokom is very well can be the worst team in EL and is a clear outsider and even if Le Mans has brilliant Blake Schilb it's still not enough to be competitive at this level.
Group C is second quality-wise. Last season's champion Oly riding the big wave it made isn't a lock at the first position but is a most possible candidate for it. Scariolo-coached Milano who failed big time last season still has one of the most impressive rosters keeping game-defining Malik Hairston and adding immensely offensively talented Langford and one tough rebounding and shot-blocking muthafucka Hendrix. And while kinda revamped Tau can surprise in both positive and negative ways they have all the potential to be back among the Europe's finest. Efes is massively overrated and keeping Vujabitch in the team would cost them too much sooner or later but still it is solid enough to be the most probable candidate for the fourth place (or maybe higher if the last season's underperformers Milano and Tau would suck this season also). But Cedevita could be a serious threat for Turks to made it to Top 16. They have one of the best rosters ex-Yugo team had in the last years and I really like their summer transfers. Zalgiris is the most probable for finishing at the bottom: yes, Lavrinovic bros and Rimas Kaukenas were the part of the very elite of Euro bball but the main word here is 'were'. Darden's addition is great and Lafayette's one is decent but that's not enough for going further. Especially if Mantas will leave this team as it is rumoured.
Group D.
Barca and CSKA all the way. Other teams in the group are mediocre this season. It's a hard guess but I suspect of Bamberg finishing third and Partizan (Pionir and Westermann, I trust on them) fourth but won't be surprised if the outcome would be entirely different.
Yeah,you are right...But I can not understand where is the problem if a 3rd greek team can not cope with Euroleague....
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